and remember, we are just days away from the olympic games, opening ceremony in paris, you can watch all the action this friday at 7:30 p.m. eastern on nbc and streaming on peacock. i know i will be. so better rest up here for now, that does it for us. i wish you all a very good night. and from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. hi, everyone.

it is jen psaki, and i know that you all tuned in because you want to hear what chris hayes thinks of everything happening right now. especially at this crazy time. me too, i get it. and he is taking some well- deserved time off with his family but i can assure you he will be back and tell you everything he thinks. in the meantime, it has been just over two days, can you believe that? since president joe biden announced he will be dropping out of the presidential race. and two days since he endorsed vice president kamala harris as his replacement. a lot has happened in that time, to put it mildly. in less than three days, harris has already secured enough delegates to win the nomination. making her essentially the de facto nominee heading into next months convention. her campaign says between sunday afternoon and last night, it raised over $100 million. with the majority of donors getting for the very first time that is a big deal. that includes the largest single day fundraising hall in

american history the campaign also says in that same time period, nearly 60,000 folks signed up as volunteers. people out there doorknocking, making phone calls. harrison shored up support, she is also shored up supporters from nearly every prominent democrats including, just today, the respective party leaders of the house and the senate. >> kamala harris and her candidacy has excited and energized the house democratic caucus, the democratic party and the nation. the enthusiasm in this big, diverse representative party was amazing. it was palpable. you could cut it with a knife. >> and just today harris made her first official campaign stop . and she did it with a delicious, and i mean delicious dose of trolling donald trump and the republicans. you know why? because her first campaign stop

today was in milwaukee, wisconsin. which is the same city where just last week the republican party held their convention. although harris path each did not feature in authoritarian is in for our country's future. nor did include anyone who just recently left jail. no shout outs to those people or hulk hogan ripping off his shirt. all things that happened last week a very different vibe to it. >> we believe in a future where everyone has the opportunity not just to get by but ticket ahead. [ applause ] a future where no child has to grow up in poverty. where every worker has the freedom to join a union. [ applause ] where every person has affordable healthcare.

affordable childcare and paid family leave. >> so that response, all that is screaming and cheering, basically captures the feeling of most democrats over the last few days. which is pretty encouraging, considering that the weeks before that were dominated by painful, gut wrenching conversations inside the party about the future of a guy they all love, joe biden. and once joe biden stepped aside and endorsed vice president harris, the unity around the task ahead, which is defeating donald trump, and the woman who is going to lead it, has also come exploding into public view. >> i know this is going to be a strong year with this ticket and the new energy we will see. >> she is going to win she is young, she is dynamic. she cares deeply about the future of the country. >> pretty excited.

>> 96 votes. we are so proud of her from california. >> so what happens now? well, for starters, president biden will give a prime time address to the nation tomorrow evening. to explain his decision to step aside and talk about the next six months of his presidency during which time he can get a lot done and do a lot of things. as for kamala harris she will continue to be out on the campaign trail. hopefully more trolling is in- store, we will see. a lot of things will be taking place behind the scene at the same time. she needs to pick a vice president of her own and the dnc once that process to happen quickly, as in within the next two weeks, which is very, very fast for a process like this. harris also has to integrate her team with the biden team. there is a big advantage there because there is already an apparatus a very smart, talented people who have been up and running for months.

and there is a lot to do. but there's no question this will be a smoother transition than any other would have been in this crazy moment. but also does that mean everything will be the same. this is the harris campaign now. she is free to differ from her predecessor on policy if she wants to. we will see. that will be an interesting part of the next couple of weeks. different superpowers in different areas she will need to work on to appeal to voters. then president biden, i also think it is fair to say that the campaign is not only focusing on its proactive method on a harris presidency but it's a tax on donald trump, which we saw on full display this afternoon in that same speech. >> before i was elected vice president, before i was elected united states senator i was elected attorney general of the state of california and i was a courtroom prosecutor before then. and in those roles i took on perpetrators of all kinds. predators who abused women. fraudsters who ripped off consumers.

cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. so hear me when i say, i know donald trump's type. [ applause ] and in this campaign, i promise you i will proudly put my record against his any day of the week. [ applause ] >> now, she clearly didn't hold

back there, which may or may not have given the trump campaign some pause. although for what it's worth, the ex-president claimed today that he is willing to debate harris. and harris, of course, will also have to deal with the bad- faith attacks from trump and his fellow republicans. and i bet a lot of them will be gross and racist and misogynistic as you might expect although thus far over the last couple of days they have kind of struggled to figure out exactly how to go after her remember, every ad, every digital campaign can every stump speech was centered around joe biden. and a lot of it around his age, specifically. that is a big part of what they had their and now they are running a convicted criminal against a female prosecutor who happens to be nearly 20 years younger than donald trump. so of course they have to throw out the old playbook and, again, they will find no attack, i promise you. there is still a long road ahead. it is going to be hard, it is going to be an absolute grind but so far kamala harris seems up for the challenge. and it is clear that the democratic party is pretty much

behind her every step of the way. david bluff served as campaign manager for barack obama's 2008 presidential campaign and he is the cohost of the podcast the campaign manager. former democratic candidate from missouri a lot of things about campaigns and they are joining me now. all right, david i mean, we are going to talk about the harris campaign that there has been a lot of reporting we have to ask you about it, it is the elephant in the room or maybe the donkey. there is reporting that you have been asked to join the campaign. people out there might be like please, david, joined the campaign. have you made a decision? >> well, jen, you know very well, there is a change like this, i think a lot of us that worked in politics, a lot of our former colleagues, even people in the private sector. you know, there's rumors about who may come in. all i know is, or you know, is that jen o'malley dillon has ran a great campaign that defeated donald trump. she built a great effort here so she will have to figure out what help she needs. all of us in the country are up

for helping where we can. but the good news is the excitement that you see, and i have seen it in on my phone, i'm sure you have seen it on your phone. we are seeing it in real numbers in terms of volunteer sign-ups in terms of donations. in terms of enthusiasm. and that is great. and because i think she is off to a good start, that is important. not many days left. every day you have a good day is pretty important. but the battle here i think is to define herself. it might be strange to say about a vice president but most of the people that will decide this election don't know about the she took on as a prosecutor or as attorney general. may not know all about her biography and defined the race, which ultimately needs to be a choice between four years of donald trump look like for american families and what will kamala harris bring to those families. i think that is a debate she is well situated to do. so as you said it is a long night but really really promising start so far and we will see her coming, trump said he wasn't going to debate two days ago now he said he will debate many times. obviously he is a slippery

character so we will see ultimately. but either way, i think it is good for americans what candidates debate. so i think kamala harris should say i will see you on september 10th. and if he shows up, and if he doesn't he needs to be made to pay maximum price for that. which he won't like. i agree, the last day he will say as they had plenty of time to prepare for this scenario. if harris is the nominee, what does her first minute look like what is her first day look like? and so far it is a pretty pathetic effort. eventually they were their act together but i was surprised by that. because they had plenty of time to prepare for this continuously. >> no question about it. and a little all over the place. so claire, let me ask you, one of the reasons you are so great to talk to is you are always a straight shooter. and energy over the last couple of days has been bananas the money, the enthusiasm, the volunteers, how unified it is. but this is going to be hard.

it is going to be a grind. i think people need to prepare themselves for that. so what are you? you know tough campaigns. what wakes you up at night as you are thinking about this campaign and what needs, what the harris campaign and what people out there who love her and are rooting for her need to prepare for? >> well, we were facing two problems. we were facing enthusiasm problem and we were facing a problem that was one that was inherently candidate and there were a lot of people, they were formally called the donald haters. both of those problems are greatly diminished now. so the campaign, i believe, that what they are going to be able to do with enthusiasm is going to somewhat be on autopilot. my sense is that the women of america, that young black voters that a lot of working people who are energized by this idea of this historic presidency, i just think that is going to solve itself. so now we have just got to really concentrate on those voters that really didn't like

either candidate before. and convince two or 3% of those are the ones that may be voted for trump and then voted for biden. to come back home to a party that they can respect. and i have got to tell you, i on this, i am shocked how badly the republicans have handled this. the panic. i mean, it really has been panic with a dose of racism. this idea calling her a dei hire . all saying a dei hire is, he is not a white man. that's all that is. that is shorthand for kamala harris is not a white man. and that is so offensive and then whoops, our guy is old now. like oh, wait a minute. he is the one who looks really old and really out of shape and really rambling and really doesn't have his act together. so i'm not saying it is going to be easy. but it just got a lot easier

than what it was before. >> yeah, it has been so encouraging seeing the last less than 72 hours. and it turns out a headline had something like this who is old? which kind of sums it up. david bluff, claire mccaskill, thank you both so much. i really appreciate you taking the time this evening. coming up, the massive energy around the kamala harris candidacy. how the vice president is meeting the moment. one of her longtime friends and former colleagues in congress, barbara lee, joins me on that, next.

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in this moment when we are all getting to know vice president kamala harris better, there is nothing more important than during directly from her pixel i have played a bunch of clips in the first block, want to play the clip for her remarks today in wisconsin where the vice president explains what she believes and what she would do as president. >> we, who believe in the sacred freedoms to vote will make sure every american has the ability to cast their ballot and have it counted. we, who believe that every person in our nation should have the freedom to live safe from the terror of gun violence.

will finally pass a red flag laws, universal background checks, and and assault weapons ban. and we, who believe in reproductive freedom will stop donald trump's extreme abortion bans because we trust women to make decisions about their own bodies and not have their government tell them what to do. >> congress woman barbara lee has known vice president kamala harris for more than 20 years. before she even ran for political office? you work side by side with her as a colleague and a friend from the california congressional delegation. she also served as california co-chair on harris's first

residential campaign back in 2020. congresswoman lee jointly now. so i just, i was just tell you during the break, 70 friends who were texting me and so excited and so enthusiastic. you have known her for 20 years. she is a friend, you worked closely with her. what is it like watching a response to her and what it has been over the last couple days? >> how nice it is to speak with you, first. >> great to have you here. i have known her for decades, more than 20 years and i'm telling you she is who she is. and people see her and understand her for her values, but also how she connects with people and i am so excited because she has run for public office before. we forget she was, course, the attorney general from california. i supported her then and a lot of people do not believe she could win. she won. she ran for the united states senate, some believe she cannot win. she won and she has a record at the united states senate. also she is ready. she is prepared. she is experienced. she knows what she is doing i have been with her on the world stage she is a global leader.

i was there with her at the munich security conference. she is the person who can beat donald trump because here you have a prosecutor, as she has reminded us of you have a convicted felon. who better to prosecute this? >> quite a contrast. you have a remarkable history yourself because you got your start working for surely chisholm's campaign 50 years ago ? >> it was a 1972. >> you look fabulous. tell me what it's like. this is really, you have this tremendous woman of color who is standing out there, getting this response. what does this all mean for history? give us a reflection on that pick >> this is a very significant transformational moment. and it is very humbling, also for myself, personally because i was a young student in mills college in oakland, california, working as a community worker. didn't believe in the two-party system because i was a single mom on public assistance. didn't believe that the

democratic party sommi. and so what happened? surely chisholm came to congress, first black woman elected to congress. i was a black student union president and she talked about how she was running for president and i refuse to work in any campaigns. now i feel work surely took me to task. she forced me to register to vote provided. i ended up helping organize in northern california primary. got an a set of and i went on to miami as a surely chisholm delegate. if anyone has not seen shirley on netflix. it is important to see that film because i was like so many young people are today. intentional about not voting. very conscious. very clear about the direction of the country. but not see any elected leaders speaking to my issues. well, shirley chisholm did. and so fast forward now about vice president harris, she climbs, she must lift so this is a complete full circle for

myself, personally. because even when vice president harris kicked off her campaign for the presidency in oakland, california i was right there and she lifted up shirley chisholm as being part of her trajectory because it has been tough. it was so tough for surely. i ran for the united states senate. it was tough and now vice president kamala harris, through all of her tough campaigns, here she is, she is ready, she is prepared. we just have to circle the wagons. she has already unify the democratic hardy. we have to make sure that voters get to know her, her record, and take a moment to thank president biden and offer a sense of gratitude to him for every thing that he has done. the biden harris administration and thank him and make sure we use this moment as a moment of congratulations to him also he put country before person and >> such an important part of the story pick you worked with

him. i love that as she rises. i want to butcher what you just said but i love that. i love that phrasing. talk to me a little bit about president biden because i love him, too. he is a tremendous, he is beloved in the democratic party. most of all, he is done and accomplished and the type of human being he is, you have been elected official for long time. he has been, tell me a little bit about your relationship with him. >> i mean, to work with president biden on many occasions when he was vice president, especially in now as president. i have been with him in the oval office. i have been with him in discussions around foreign- policy. this man is a smart man, first of all. he is experienced but he is a global leader. and he connects with people where they are. he understands the plight of working men and women. he understands what it means that we have to deal with the climate emergency. he understands housing is key, the key to reducing the costs

of living and inflation. and he fights each and every day. look at what he has moved forward on in terms of student loan debt cancellation. of course, the trump supreme court made the horrible decision they made but he came back and he said well, look, i'm going to do as much as i can do through executive order so where there is a will there is a way and he has always done that and he has always been a person who has fought for justice and for equity for everyone. and it has just been a pleasure working with him and i love him dearly. you know we don't always agree but that is okay, this is a democracy and he has fought to protect our democracy just as vice president harris has and we know that right now we are at the risk of losing our democracy. >> such an important reminder, got six more months in office. really exciting campaign to watch. a pleasure having you, thank you so much for coming in and

sitting down with me. >> i'm so glad to be with you. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, buyers remorse? why trump might be regretting picking jd vance as his latest running mate. i will talk about that just a moment. moment.

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i'm sure they were thinking the charismatic author of hillbilly elegy could speak directly to the workingman. surely he could give a rousing address that would have the maga a full on their eat at the convention and speeches across the country. and then during the biggest speech of jd vance's life, this is how he sounded. >> ohio! ohio! >> i mean, awkwardly us. so maybe had an off night. not much time to prepare, his only picked a couple of days before. well, vance was out on the campaign trail yesterday and this is how that went. >> you know, when i see -- [ laughter ] now -- [ laughter ] where can i get a good fried bologna sandwich right now?

this is a guy, this is a guy who makes it. we will talk about donuts all day. you can tell, i skipped lunch so my mind is about donuts here. but like a, [ laughter ] it is the weirdest thing to me, democrats say that it is racist to believe -- they say it is racist to do anything. i had a diet mountain dew yesterday and i am sure they are going to call that racist, too. it's good. [ laughter ] i love you guys. >> i mean, is he hungry? is he thirsty? is he both? i don't even know what that was but it was definitely not a good start speech. maybe he was trying to sound like trump relating to the crowd. i don't know. but basically whatever that was bombed at the campaign event. and on the other side of the political world, here again is a woman we played a lot of clips of her, we are going to keep playing them.

here's the woman vance suggested was a miserable childless cat lady, his words, just a few years ago. >> are you ready to get to work? do we believe in freedom? do we believe in opportunity? do we believe in the promise of america? and are we ready to fight for it? and when we fight we win! >> as the harris campaign stirs up, craddick voters like she just did at that event, some polls are suggesting that vance doesn't move the needle. i mean, there is speculation that the notorious fickell republican nominee, you know the one, maybe having some buyers remorse in the meantime, vice president kamala harris now faces her own search for a running mate and it has to be fast. part of it, part of that decision is picking someone who can give a speech i don't know that trump found that guy. we will see.

so what is kamala harris looking for? we will talk about that, next.

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now that she is the democratic party's defective presidential nominee, vice president harris is a big, lots of big decisions but a big one that is coming up very soon, who should be her running mate on the party ticket? it's a high-stakes call progress dnc chairman jamie harrison told nbc news yesterday, it has to happen very quickly.

>> this process is going to be fair and transparent, open, but it is going to be fast. we're going to give it up to the nominee to make the determination but we should, if we are going to be on all 50 ballots and we definitely have to have all that done and locked up by august 7th. >> august 7th. in case you have your calendars in front of you, that is two weeks from tomorrow to do all the vetting and choosing. it is normally a lot more time than that. lots of names are being thrown around. a lot of exciting names, pungent thing harris should pick a midwestern governor or a southwestern senator to help expand the map and some key battleground states pick one of the big questions is what do actually know about who can help her electorally and where a whiteboard electoral strategizing i know you are doing at home right now with your whiteboard. two things matter in this pick and this is an important piece, who does harris want to call

from the oval office when she is doing with authority issue? that is ultimately a big question. who does she want to be first in the room and last in the room for difficult decisions? with 105 days until the election, was their own following, their own ability to fund raise in their own ability to garner crowds for events. no time for training, really. this is a crazy system, credi part of the process we are in right now. so who will be able to do that the day after? that is one of the things i'm interested in. both veterans democratic pollsters and strategists and they join me now. okay, so cornell, let me just with that question because i have a lot of friends and family who are kind of whiteboard strategizing what states all these people. but right now the five democratic vice presidential contenders that have been reported, i should say, according to nbc are north carolina governor ron cooper, josh shapiro, senator mark kelly of arizona, michigan governor gretchen whitner and tim walz, all from key states, right? >> surprise, surprise. >> all great, right? is there anybody on that list that you know, we know from data

would offer a significant electoral advantage? >> i think history tells us that there is no big huge bump from the vp because in the end, people are still voting for the top that i think vp see sarah palin somewhat that i think overall you still voted for the top and i also understand that people doing these electoral map strategy things about well, does this person help with the state? i can tell you, i think that is more of a somatic thing. i think the medically about al gore. new generation of leadership. young, vibrant leadership. i think i would use this pick as a virtue signal more so than i am thinking about well if i pick this person from pennsylvania. now, that said, if i were making the electoral map, i am curious on the map pick. i would go for the governor of north carolina because i think that is a state that we want and it is going back and forth. so purpleish. they elect democratic

governors, democrats at the top have had a hard time but this is a state i think that is like georgia and sort of like arizona. a state that is breaking through. i think we expanded the map. >> kind of purple red right now. >> last mike >> any data you have seen or any electoral advantage and then i will ask you the same question, cornell. >> i am ready. look, there have been some polls and they show that people are all over the place. the new york times today straw poll with delegates and of their undecided. there was an npr marist poll that came out among democrats and they were mostly divided. there is nobody i think you had it over 25% some people are really divided on what they want. so i think it is important to think of who does harris feel comfort with and who would be a great asset to go on and help communicate and reinforce the message? generally speaking i

agree with cornell that there hasn't been a history where bp pick really upended the race in a real way. in 2016 we did an exercise to look at trumps different vp pics and all we found was that picking ibaka, which was floated at the time, would not have helped him. that was the big finding so i think generally speaking it is not something that, you know, it ultimately makes a different because a number of swing voters are going to take longer to really learn about whoever the vp pick is and to really decide okay, and i picking the presidential race based on who the vp is? that is not necessarily a calculation that swing voters, folks who don't vote as often, that is not necessarily what they are going to be, their first go to detail. >> was such an interesting. the other thing that you here shorthanded out there by a lot of people, pollster aside, will that it has to be a white man because, like a, she is a woman of color. she is historic and so many ways, it has to be a white man because somehow that will comfort people or something. i don't even know. >> i don't want to seem like

she needs to have a white man in order to speak to white voters or white men. i don't think that that's true. because people vote just like it is not true that black voters are are automatically going to vote one way or latinos or white women all vote one way to his groups are not monolithic. so i think we want to be careful in terms of how we talk about this the two i think the ideal the people put forth that you have to have a white man is, it encapsulates many of the isms that we have. a white guy to help the woman, right? think the opposite way around. the other part about this for me is quite frankly, if you are a white guy and you are uncomfortable with having a woman, a particularly woman of color as a commander in chief, i don't think putting the white guy on the ticket will make you more comfortable with that. >> won't make you get over that. >> get over another piece. >> that is fair.

jd vance, i read his speech for the convention in a written form and then he delivered it and i was like, that was not well delivered. the theory is that he was trying to kind of doubled down on the base for trump. what do you think? does that help him? was it a bad pick in that regard? >> okay, i don't know. it is going to be an enthusiastic supporter of the president. he is enthusiastic to kind of reinforce his message and call you know, i'm going to assume that he felt, it wasn't quite ready for, his jokes weren't landing. maybe, like a, as he goes forward, will be a little bit different but i think it will be different for vance and trump. again, anybody other than ibaka wasn't going to make a difference in 2016 so in that respect, does vance add or detract, i don't know if he does he there. >> clarifying it is bigger and

different. people don't realize what a big spotlight. when i see those clips from him, just like he is ready for that spot i think that's, that certainly does not help the trump ticket. >> yeah, no question about it. before that you both go. one of the things i have been thinking about, too, is who could complement the vice president possible powers? this is not an electoral question, right? so is there, you mentioned electorally you might think it is there anyone who is not mentioned out there that you hope it's on a secret list? >> not on the list but i will say that the governor of wisconsin, tony e verse, who gave an adorable introduction to vice president harris today. holy mackerel to heck yes, that is how enthusiastic i am. you know how vice president harris is known for her dancing and governor ivars was won the battleground state of wisconsin loves to polka. >> okay. >> five seconds we have left,

do you have anyone on the list? >> michelle obama. >> oh my goodness. >> last mike >> thank you for bring us the data and the numbers. that is always super helpful to level with people. this election is going to be front and center on september 7th and we are going to have a big event happening in new york. democracy 2024 in brooklyn. you are going to find me along with rachel maddow, chris hayes, joy reed, basically the whole nerdy msnbc crew. we will all be together talking about the big issues in america right now. tickets are available, you can find them by scanning the qr code on your screen and i hope to see you there. but first, the accolades are pouring in for president biden and has led to see. senator chris murphy joined me on that coming up, next next

he is the leader who met the most difficult choice, at the most important moment because he believed it was the

right thing to do. here is someone who put country ahead of self until the very end. >> in this historic when a sitting u.s. president withdrew from the race for re-election to pass the baton to his vice president, one of the people telling his own personal story about joe biden is senator chris murphy of connecticut. murphy, a longtime advocate for gun reform recounted how president biden turned to him for advice after the tragic shootings of uvalde, texas and in buffalo, new york. he consulted with him on a speech to build support for a gun safety bill. a speech that president biden ultimately delivered as a passionate appeal to all americans and specifically to republicans in congress. >> the children we have lost, the children we can save. the nation we love. but here the call and the cry, let's meet the moment that has finally do something.

>> senator murphy described the speech as perfect and deeply impactful and saying, quote, i'm not sure the historic 2022 gun bill would have passed without that speech senator chris murphy, democrat of connecticut joins me now. senator murphy, it is great to see a thank you so much for joining me here this evening i just wanted to start by, i mean, i have been working in, i worked in democratic politics for a long time. you have been elected in democratic politics for a long time. the last couple of days have been, i mean, the energy, the fundraising, how unified everyone is. has been surprising and how fast it has happened, to me has been surprising to you? >> yeah. i have been in politics for a while, too. but i haven't lost my ability to be surprised. i am just so happy for this country and for kamala harris and for a lot of folks that have felt like democracy is on

the line. we are having a little bit of a hard time getting up off the sidelines and what joe biden did was extraordinary. he recognized this moment. i don't think it was fair. i told the story in part because i want people to understand how deeply, personally, intimately involved he was in all these legislative successes. but he looked at the state of the party, he looked at the state of the race and he made this just absolutely heroic selfless decision to stand down is by the fact that he had a path to victory, despite the that he has is incredible legislative record because he just thought it was good for the country. so yeah, i keep coming back to this job year after year, citing a run for re-election because people surprise me. because over and over again, you know, a world and a business that is filled with cynicism, people step up and do the right thing more often than you would think so yeah, i am still surprised. >> you don't have to be a bad

apple to be in politics. i think that is hard for people to know. so let me ask you, you just mentioned it. i know that you have worked with president biden on 70 different things. gun violence reform, you have worked with him on a range of foreign policy issues. he has got six months left in his presidency. he is going to speak tomorrow night first of all, what do you hope to hear from him tomorrow night? what are you expecting? >> well, i think the reason that kamala harris is this sort of best of both worlds candidate is because she is the next generation she is going to be inspirational, historic candidate. it is important to have a woman on the top of the ticket running for president, women's rights are under assault but she also is going to be able to carry forth all of the really amazing things that this administration has done? i hope joe biden just takes a heat and remind the american public that without his leadership, we would not have rescued this country from covid. we would not be growing jobs at

a historic rate. crime wouldn't be down by 20% joe biden does those things and kamala harris helped him and so i hope that he takes credit for that and remind people of the reasons why there should be some interest in continuity. and i hope he talks a little bit from his heart about why he made this decision. part of the reason we love joe biden is because he does share himself with us. he does, you know, reach down de inse and away a lot of political figures don't so i hope that he shares a bit of his decision-making process with us. i think that would really round out this amazing, amazing moment. >> love people who love to hear that. i totally agree with you. let me ask you, you are a policy nerd and i say that in a couple of entryway but you have also been through some tough campaign. you have seen people go through tough campaigns. this has been kind of a moment of elation for a lot of people over the past two days with all of the support but this is

going to be a bruising campaign. it is going to be hard. what are the things you think people out there should be aware of that they are sitting on their couch and think, this is all in the back of what is going to be really hard about it? what should people be prepared for? >> yeah, listen, i think this is going to be a very tough campaign and you already see some of the worst easily oozing out of the republican infrastructure. there just going to be some basic racism and misogyny that is going to infiltrate this campaign and so we have to confront that head on we have to call it out. ultimately i do not think it is a winning strategy for republicans but you have got to name it and shame it. and then coming you know, i think we have to turn this enthusiasm into actual action. we have to remind folks who today are excited about kamala harris that just sharing a tweet is not political action. you have got to go on the website and make a small donation, you're going to sign up for a volunteer shift.

donald trump's little infrastructure is incredibly weak. a lot of people don't know this but he hasn't built much of a campaign. he was golfing today. he is not out there on the campaign trail the way he was four years ago. so we now have a candidate who is going to appeal to a whole new section of the electorate. and we have the ability to use the enthusiasm to artwork republicans. so the message here is don't take anything for granted, signed up to, sign up to volunteer, make a contribution. turn this enthusiasm into actual work product. >> will have about 40 seconds left. you are a professional, so let me ask you, are people out there wondering what can i do, what should i do? what should they do now if they are excited, they want to defeat donald trump, how can normal people out there watching on their couch get involved? >> yeah, so one thing you can do is make a small donation, not just to kamala harris but to my colleagues who are running for swing senate seats

all across the country. tammy baldwin was standing on the stage in wisconsin. you should make a donation to herbert not only with the presidency but we need to hold the united states senate and win back those representatives and the great thing about technology today is that even if you are in a blue state, even if you are a constituent of connecticut i would love for you to help me, but i want you that, i won't take it personally if you also sign up for a virtual phone bank in pennsylvania, in arizona, in wisconsin. so it is as easy as going to the dnc's website or to the presidential website to find out how you can be part of these voter turnout operations in the swing states. that is a small smorgasbord of options for people that want to make a big difference. >> that is a perfect elevator pitch. and very generous, too. senator chris murphy, thank you so much. that does it for me tonight. president biden will address the nation at 8:00 p.m. eastern time tomorrow night. will bring that to your life. we have special team coverage right here on msnbc and alex wagner tonight darts right now. hi, alex. >> hi, jen. i think i'm going to see you tomorrow night. >> i will see you rr