and then i think you're going to hear him make a hard pivot in that conversation in his address to what his plans are for the next six months. a lot of the conversation in the aftermath of his announcement is about what a great statesman he was, how he led remarkably during this time but joe biden is not yet done and i think he'll make that case for him tonight. >> 8:00 eastern. oval office address. we will have complete coverage here on msnbc. thank you so much for being with us this morning. thanks to all of for getting your "way too early" for us on this wednesday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. one reason trump might be struggling from is -- trump donated to her re-election campaign. $5,000. as fox news is reporting it,

bombshell. kamala harris took money from convicted felon! >> big news. one of the first polls taken since president biden dropped out of the race shows vice president harris leading former president trump. you thought kamala harris has laughing hard before? yeah. it seems like voters are excited by the idea of having a president who knows when their iphone flashlight is on. yeah, she is way younger this trump and wears less eye liner than j.d. vance! she would have raised more money but melania hit her withdraw limits. good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it is wednesday, july 24th.

can us we have the host of kay too early jonathan la mere. nbc national averages analyst and chief columnist john heilemann. host of msnbc politics nation reverend al sharpton. co-host of msnbc "the weekend" simone sanders townsend, a former senior adviser and chief spokesperson to vice president kamala harris. joe and willie are traveling this morning. we will get to three national polls conducted after joe biden withdrew from the race staying on as president but, simone, to your point at the end of "way too early," as republicans try to connect kamala harris are joe biden i think her answer to that will be and has been, yes, absolutely, i'm part of the winning team that beat donald trump. i'm part of a winning team that has had a historic for years. so their clap back is quite easy

to that. >> yeah. i think you're absolutely right. look. i think republicans don't know what to do here because they don't know what to do, they cannot argue against the substance of what president and vice president have done over the almost last four years. they have immediately resorted to racist and sexist stereotypes and attacks. we have had donald trump yesterday, i believe he was on a stage talking about a woman can't be president. what are you saying? what is going on here? this is an opportunity i think for democrats to stay focused. they do have a winning message here. everything, obviously, is not rosy and thorny issues they have to address but on the merit of the issues and the policy, i think the harris campaign is on very solid ground. >> yeah. let's take a look at these polls. the first from reuters finds vice president kamala harris leading former president donald

trump by two points. 44% to 42% among registered voters. in a reuters poll taken last week, it was trump ahead two points against biden. so a shift since the shift. a morning consult survey conducted in the 24 hours after biden's announcement shows harris faring better than the president. according to this poll, trump leads harris by two voters of registered voters. 47 to 45 last week. they found biden leading by six. another maris poll taken on monday showing harris leading trump by one single point. they found biden leading by two points early in the month. all of these polls are within the margin of error, still. vice president kamala harris held the first rally of her 2024

yesterday outside of milwaukee, wisconsin. the vice president spoke to a fired up standing room only crowd packed in a high school gym. harris was on the offensive throughout the 20-minute speech attacking donald trump and framed the election as a prosecutor versus a felon. hum. a fighter for the middle class versus someone who indicators to billion mayors, and a choice between the future and the past. >> and in this campaign, i promise you, i will proudly put my record against his any day of the week. as attorney general of california, i took on one of our country's largest for profit colleges that was scamming students. donald trump ran a profit for college that scammed students.

as a prosecutor, i specialized in cases involving sexual abuse. well, trump was found liable for committing sexual abuse. as attorney general of california, i took on the big wall street banks and held them accountable for fraud. donald trump was just found guilty of fraud on 34 counts. but donald trump wants to take our country backward. he and his extreme project 2025 agenda will weaken the middle class. like we know we got to take this serious. i can't believe -- is that thing in writing? read it! as 900 pages. but here is the thing 37 when

you read it, you will see donald trump intends to cut social security and medicare. he intends to give tax breaks to billionaires and big corporations and make working families foot the bill. america has tried these failed economic policies before. but we are not going back. we are not going back. not going back. we are not going back. we are not going back. >> all right. you can see the excitement there for kamala harris. a lot of people inside the campaign from folks i'm talking to are really feeling it. and these polls, this, jonathan lemire, is a great place to start when you're either neck

and neck or edging ahead or not edging too far behind for a candidate jumping in a hundred days before the election. this will be about resilience to get through the next three months, of course. and also who she surrounds herself with. a memo was put out by dillon. what is your reporting about what is going inside the campaign in terms how they will put this together and move forward quickly? >> so far, it's been pretty seamless, the transition from biden to harris for president. mike donelan is staying with the campaign but taking more of a secondary role, i am told. steve sheedy remains at the white house and his focus will be to work on legislative agenda and sort of burnishing the president's legacy there. he is still president for six more months. otherwise, most of the key campaign staff staying in

playing. they are looking for additional hires. david plus on our air this week is considered a possibility. jim messina, he has been reached out and veterans of the obama campaign. dylan remains campaign chair and she put out a memo a few minutes ago talking about vice president harris pathways to victory. she knows this is a tough and tight race and largely still goes through those three states in the blue wall, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. but she acknowledges that harris doing better than president biden but also donald trump in some other key voting areas. young voters. black voters. latino voters and voters who democrats have grown worry about. there is a sense with harris at the top of the ticket there is a chance reverend al sharpton, to excite those voters again and bring them home. if they do, that could open up some more pathways. the sun belt. arizona. north carolina. georgia. nevada. those states that a few weeks

ago seemed like they might have been slipping away, now there is a sense that they could be back in play. >> absolutely. if they can bring back young voters and black voters, latino voters, and raise the enthusiasm and sustain it. one of the things that they must be very cautious of is to get the enthusiasm that we have seen over the last 48 hours, but sustain it. we saw a lot of enthusiasm in 2016 around hillary clinton. we have to keep it that way if she is victorious. i think you play the backboard like you are playing basketball. every crazy shot that donald trump takes at her, use it to score. this whole thing of saying she's a dei selection because she is black. >> oh, my god. >> you use that to energize your black base even more.

he keeps staying stupid things. he rolls out people that are convicted of crimes, rap stars and acts like that is the picture of the black community. you roll out people that are legitimate political people and nothing wrong with people wanting to redo their lives at rap stars but to act like they are political leaders. at the republican convention, he used a spot of his video a picture he had of me in the '80s trying to look like he reaches out. was that a de ivideo, mr. trump? use his own weight against him. >> one it seems to play for the republican primaries less of a winning strategy perhaps in a general election. john heilemann, we watched the vice president's first rally yesterday. a burst of enthusiasm. a number of democrats i heard from saying a breath of fresh air and not meant to denigrate president biden by any means but vice president harris was communicating and carrying attack lines they had not heard from the top of the ticket in

quite some time. there is a chance, only 15 or so weeks until the election, she has got momentum. the timing, even after it took president biden a long time to get the decision, may work in her favor where she's got this burst of energy here, her announcement, her vp pick coming soon. then her convention. we need to start seeing some battleground polls, too. >> yeah. all true. i think in the long arc of history, no one will begrudge joe biden taking three and a half weeks the decision he made and he made the decision that i think that many democrats and maybe people who love the president but felt it was the right thing for him to step aside and think the right decision and history will award him for making that decision when he made it and those who were patient who were wanting him to step aside. the reality taking three weeks off the clock and gotten this decision to the other side of the republican convention where there is a clear open field

running now for vice president harris to kind of make her move to march with the enthusiasm she has and the momentum she has into the convention in chicago. so many thought chicago could be a nightmare and thought it could be a nightmare for joe biden and if it was an open contested convention. now you have this rallying effect what you'll see in chicago is going to be a love fest behind the new nominee. i think the most important thing in this memo, the crucial sentence which something she said before and joe biden at the top of the ticket and now. 7% of the electorate is undecided and that group has been all along disproportionately made up of african american voters and hispanic voters and young voters. the hope the biden campaign had previously was those voters were

democratic leaning voters to begin with could be brought home for joe biden. the worry they wouldn't get enthusiastic for joe biden. no gimmes in politics. for the harris campaign those seem to be available voters she will have a strong potential to bring back into the democratic fold. joe biden was hovering in the high 80s among democrats where donald trump had 95% of republicans who were with him. if she can bring the democratic base home and give the voters home and given the demographics she has a better chance to do it, and a better chance to win than joe biden. no disrespect for joe biden. >> it's all about the dynamic. somehow kamala harris pick for the candidacy will expose the nastiness on the republican side that perhaps, even some

republicans have become. president biden will announce his decision to drop out of the presidential race and he'll deliver his message from the oval office at 8:00 eastern. he is expected to detail his decision to end his re-election campaign and also outline his plans for the rest of his time in office. meanwhile, "the new york times" reports that ahead of tonight's address, former president trump's campaign sent a letter to abc, nbc, and cbs, demanding trump be given equal time. simone, while this has been a really difficult decision for joe biden and one that has been perhaps made more difficult by members of his own party, no one is better than pressing the reset button than joe biden. he has stood by kamala harris from the very beginning. he is extremely loyal.

and he believes in people. and that why his people succeed because they have the backing of their mentors. and joe biden will fight for her as well. it's so interesting because the fight here now will be against trump's lies. because, again, as i said before, a very successful presidency and not like kamala harris is picking up the pieces of a mess. she is actually taking the baton from a presidency that has made history. so that is one argument she will need to make. but the other challenge will be to keep up with the disinformation that donald trump and his people put out there, whether it be can foreign leaders and who are friends and enemies are on the world stage, or about joe biden's actual accomplishments. >> i had to laugh because donald trump doesn't understand that joe biden is still the president of the united states of america. you don't get to demand equal

time from the president. he is no longer a candidate. someone needs to brief donald trump about the rules. absolutely. the speech tonight the president is going to give i think is very important. people are talking about joe biden he is gone and he is going to come before the american people tonight and tell them not only am i not gone i'm here but i'll do everything i can to support my vice president and let me also tell you how i plan to finish the job that i am still doing. there's so much work left to do that this administration can get done. we are still on the cusp of the deal happening between hamas and israeli to end that war, get the hostages back, and get you some form of a peace agreement and that is one thing there. when it comes to the vice president and her campaign, though, absolutely. there is a record that this administration has. there is a record that she has and this also is going to be about the future, though. there are -- we have already heard the attacks coming from

republicans and i think that these are not new. the vice president, herself, has been one of the people that has been very much so targeted from the beginning of the administration by right wing conservative media. there has not been a focus on a vice president like this from the beginning. when i went to work at the white house, they didn't focus on biden like this and you can go down the line. the focus on her was insane but also very intense. so this is not something new to her apparatus. but people are going to have to challenge the misinformation. you hear people talking about the border czar. she wasn't that. talking about inflation and talking about her record as a prosecutor. what exactly did she -- who did she prosecute? those are things you already see the vice president herself positioning but it is only going to get more intense as we barrel towards not even just november, but people start voting in

september. >> wow. before we go to break, we want to follow up on a reference from monday's show when msnbc contributor mike barnicle said that donald trump was found guilty of rape. he was referring to mr. trump being found civilly liable for the carroll case. we will look at what voters in battleground wisconsin coming up think about kamala harris at the top of the ticket. elise jordan joins us with the focus group she just conducted yesterday. plus, israeli prime minister netanyahu is set to address congress this afternoon and we will have the latest on capitol hill as dozens of democratic lawmakers plan to boycott the remarks. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. (reporters) over here. kev! kev! (reporter 1) any response to the trade rumors, we keep hearing about? (kev) we talkin' about moving? not the trade, not the trade, we talking about movin'. no thank you. (reporter 2) you could use opendoor.

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president biden selfless decision has given the democratic party to unite behind a new nominee. boy, oh, boy, are they enthusiastic. we are here today to throw our support behind vice president kamala harris. >> kamala harris and her candidacy has excited and energized the house democratic caucus, the democratic party,

and the nation. vice president harris has earned the nomination. >> senate majority leader chuck schumer and house minority leader hakeem jeffries announcing their official support for kamala harris for president. a new piece just published on nbc news.com is highlighting how democrats are cautiously smiskt optimistic. despite the challenges of sexism and racism. vice president harris is entering the presidential race with some unique weapons that hillary clinton did not have eight years ago. what kind of weapons, i'll put that in quotes, are you talking about that perhaps puts kamala harris in a unique position to have an advantage here? >> my question was what has changed since 2016, since 2022?

and even since i wrote my book in 2021 about the role that vice president harris plays in washington and, of course, now that she is on the top of the ticket. i think the thing that harris has now, according to all of the kfs i've had with lawmakers and experts at women's groups is she has more proof of purchase. people have seen since 2016 and 2018 influx of women into the house and the role after 2022 that the dobbs decision will play. i was listening to your conversation about the idea of republicans now focusing on immigration and the border. that was not a good time for vice president harris in the early years in this white house. but what everyone that i've spoken to has told me is that this immediate coalescing around her has so much to do with the way she spent last year and a half on the campaign trail and it's because the topic set has really flowed to her skill set which is to say she is the

perfect messenger on health care and she has shown it on the campaign trail. she is a different candidate watching her the last few days than when i covered her in 2019 and 2020 and certainly after her first year in the white house, many people are paying attention to that, but i also think it's really important to just point out the ways in which the landscape has changed. i think the way that we talk about not just women being elected in 2018 and the dobbs decision in 2022, but most of the experts and leaders i spoke to for this piece said you just look at a place like michigan where it is mostly women elected throughout the upper ranks of leadership in that state and start and stemming from gretchen whitner and that tells a larger story to people that women can win when they run and voters just have to vote for them and that that is a really important roof that harris is a strong candidate but someone who simply

be electable. >> "the new york times" had an article how kamala harris can win and make history and it is written in part, quote. miss harris will face unique additional challenges as the first black and south asian woman to be at the top of a major party's ticket. that is real. but we shouldn't be afraid. it is a trap to believe that

progress is impossible. i couldn't agree more. jonathan lemire, i'll take you back it back to ali. it's interesting. kamala harris has made a point in some of her opening speeches about her experience and it's not just her experience as vice president working under this successful presidency legislatively and on the world stage, not just her experience in the senate, often in hearings, grilling republicans from the trump administration on their misdeeds. not just her experience as an attorney general. but her experience as a prosecutor and i say that because whether it's in a speech, whether it's somebody lobbying an inappropriate question at her, or whether it's during a debate, kamala harris is used to dealing with highly unusual situations. she has dealt with criminals. and abusers. people who have absolutely no

walls, no boundaries around what they might say or might do. people who behave irrationally. she is used to that and used to that behavior and she can manage it and she is not shocked by it all. even bold-faced lying and disgusting attacks. that even happening in person is something she has got. >> yeah. she is ready for this moment. that is clear. look. there have been some questions at times about some of her political talents, in part, stemming from her 2019, 2020 presidential campaign simply didn't go very will well. she doesn't even make it to iowa but close to her say and frankly those skeptical at her at first say she has grown into this moment. we saw her certainly become this administration's leading voice on abortion, health care, and other issues over the last few years. ali, i was really struck, you know, how often in these first days of her campaign, she is

invoking as mika said her time as a prosecutor and suggesting prosecutor versus felon, cop versus con, if you will, when she lays this out against donald trump. and, also, talk to us about that. also how reflective how this moment in politics has changed. in 2019, 2020, her prosecutor background was held against her by democrats and now it is seen as a real strength. >> held against her by democrats and including some black voters. i remember going to south carolina and hearing this from voters and then also hearing it from congressman jim clyburn at the time when we were talking about why she had not caught on. i think harris in 2019 is a different politician than she is right now and the issues have changed to match where her resume is. not just taking on trump from the offensive prosecutor saying she is prosecutor going against a felon and she certainly laid that out yesterday in her first

rally but the other piece of it, too, is watching the ways in which she has been able to speak to women and be the first vice president to go to an abortion providing clinic and we have said on this show and i have said the thing that turns voters outside do i want to vote for a. republican or a democrat? the idea that women can run and be at the top of a ticket is normalizing and that has such a big role to play here, too. >> nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali, thank you for coming on. former aide to the george w. bush, elise jordan who is a msnbc analyst. she sat down with wisconsin voters last night to get their

thoughts on the election. first, tell us about who these voters are that you spoke with. >> hi, mika. last night, i sat down with two groups of wisconsin voters. the all important voters in this state where around 20,000 votes decided the last two presidential elections. we spoke to a group of female trump supporters and then right leaning swing voters to hear what they thought about the recent shake-up in the election and how they see the campaign. mika, i will say i had been in wisconsin about a month ago doing similar focus groups and i was really shocked at what a burst of energy the new nomination of vice president harris has given the race in the sense of how the trump supporters responded and how the swing voters responded. so i'm excited for everyone to

hear directly from the voters at this important moment. >> right. so let's listen to one of the groups you spoke with. women, trump supporters in wisconsin. i'll say it again. women trump supporters in wisconsin. here is some of what they had to say to you about vice president kamala harris. >> reporter: do you think that having vice president kamala harris as the nominee dramatically changes donald trump's odds of winning? >> i'm worried about it. >> oh, yes. >> yes. >> i think she is going to go for the minority and female and younger voters. >> progressive. >> everybody is excited about her. >> right. >> and that scares me. >> right. >> you know? because trump has to reconfigure where he is going and how they are going to out-smart her. >> reporter: how do you perceive vice president harris compared

to president biden in terms of confidence and experience? >> i think she is worse. >> she doesn't know what is going on at the border. >> right. >> and that is what she -- >> she was supposed to be doing. >> doing and then charge them. as a school teacher, if i did not do what i was supposed to be doing, you better believe my job would be in jeopardy. while it isn't. not only was her job not in jeopardy, she was just hand add promotion. >> reporter: is there anyone that kamala harris could appoint as her vice president would make you consider voting for her. >> oh, no, no. >> no. >> i wouldn't consider voting for her. >> no. >> rfk way before -- >> absolutely. >> reporter: she is not first

woman to run for presidency and i'm sure no one here voted for hillary clinton in 2016. it won't sway you to vote for a woman in office. when do you think america will have a female president? >> when there is a competent one. >> i don't get a good feel for her. >> i think she is an idiot. >> right. >> reporter: mary, why do you think she is not that bright? >> because she hasn't done anything in the time that she has had. we don't know anything about her as far as her three years so far in the white house. she is not real smart. that is my opinion. i could be wrong. >> reporter: if vice president kamala harris wins the election, do you think that will be an honest result? >> no. >> absolutely not. >> no. >> no. no one respectses her. >> unsurprising responses there from the maga group that you talked to. i'm really interested in the other group you did which was

the swing voter group, the center right voters. i'm interested because one of the things that the trump campaign has done, in addition to some of the racist and sexist attacks they have talked about the last couple of days there is advertising or in digital video a focus on the question of she has was on it, she was concealing president biden's health, and trying to make that -- one of the many arguments they want to make about her. i'm curious in that group in the center right group, not the maga group, what do you hear from them about that issue? i'm trying to get a sense of whether that is an issue that is salient with voters and something the harris campaign is going to have to deal with going forward. >> reporter: that is great question because that is exactly what we are about to hear in the next clip. and why we chose this clip, because it really came out so organically. the idea that the swing voters, that these right leaning voters

are grappling with considering vice president harris, but they feel misled by the biden administration about biden's fitness, so they don't necessarily trust her and they question if she played a role if a so-called, quote, cover-up of president biden's health. so let's listen to the second group of voters. these are undecided voters talk about their caveats with donald trump and with kamala harris. if you have one concern about president trump, tell me that concern and then what is your one concern about kamala harris? >> for me, my concern about trump is him making too aggressive of choices and us not being able to recover from it. i appreciate that he is willing to, if obama is dropped on our doorstep, is out the door as fast as it hit us but it does

make me nervous because of everything that is going to happen. my concern about harris is a bomb has been dropped on our doorstep and six months before we move and we are [ inaudible ] so again, which route i want to go is person questions of myself so it makes me a little nervous on both sides. >> reporter: what do you think, robert? >> i think it would be nice if they concentrate on the issues instead of the mud slinging and personal attacks. we have problems in this country. right wing and left wing on the same bird but let's find the common grounds but we can't agree on things and let's start with you. >> reporter: what do you think, care? i don't think we can ignore trump's convictions and integrity and his moral character. i worry about him, if he gets retaliation for, you know,

something to get him upset, that he is going to retaliate without slowing down and thinking it through. i honestly need to get more information about kamala because i don't know about her so i have to wait' see. i kind of have to step back and see. i've learned a lot just through our conversation today about her that i found really interesting. >> reporter: who do you blame for president biden being in office in this condition? who deserves the blame? >> his close staff. they work with him every day. >> so i think that also makes me nervous about vice president harris. >> yeah. >> reporter: talk about that a bit. >> yes, she is going to be in it but she helped to keep him in where he is at right now and if he is really as bad as what they

have been saying, i think if he steps down as president and she steps into the presidency before the end of his term is makes me question a little bit more why it didn't happen sooner. she has worked with him. to my understanding, she has been with him daily or at least a couple of days a week. why hasn't this been brought to the attention if she is willing to hide that type of information once she is in office, now what is she willing to hide for herself. so i think that makes me a little bit uneasy, not necessarily i would vote for her, but it definitely opens that questioning of why now? why are you now being okay with exposing biden's health concerns? is it because it benefits you? or kind of what that line of questioning looks like. >> a power grabber. >> reporter: does anyone agree with melissa's point that is calls in to the vice president's judgment that she has been

around while biden's health has deteriorated? >> 100%. >> agree. >> but it also seems like that is kind of how she carries herself. she kind of does what in the moment she needs to continue to do to move forward and move up. >> so interesting. i love these, elise. they really give a sense of how people are thinking in these swing states, independent voters, voters who may be still are making a decision. i'm curious. it almost seems like you get a sense of what the challenge will be for vice president kamala harris when you hear from these voters. what are you going to be doing today? who will you be speaking with today? >> reporter: well, we are leaving the national railroad museum, who hosted us last night, to talk to these great green bay voters. and we are heading to madison and we are going to talk to progressive voters under the age of 40 and then we will hear from traditional democratic voters about how they feel about president biden leaving the race

and their thoughts on the new nominee kamala harris. >> msnbc political analyst elise jordan, great work. thank you very much! symone, what are your thoughts made by those voters? the way joe biden came to his decision was painful and involved a lot of things that happened within the democratic party. i think you and i are awe lined by that. i'm very concerned about this sort of narrative and i do believe it comes from the right, that there was lying about his situation, about his abilities and it was a big cover-up. these are the types of things that will happen to kamala harris as the race progresses and those voters just proved it. what do you think? >> look. my point about the right wing media machine that has been

targeting the vice president in 2020 that same machine has been targeting president biden throughout his entirety of the time he served in the white house as president. what those voters is saying is what is being repeated incessantly throughout right wing media on television and social media and conservative i don't think does it justice. these are truly right wing outlets. because people have heard is so often, they take it to be true and so the campaign is going to have to do the work of countering this narrative but they have to pick and choose because some of the things you won't be able to -- you know, it's like how can you undo four or five years of negative media coverage and lies about the president and the vice president. lastly, mika, this is why the oval office address from the

president today is so important. literally, reading some of the things online, some of the stuff from right wing concern media and main street media also would make you think joe biden is no longer the president of the united states of america. that he has stepped down from the campaign and when you see the president sitting at what i don't know if it will be the resolute desk or across the hall tonight but you cannot ignore him standing and talking to the america people clear and concise and making his case and that is important to the voters elise talked to in wisconsin. >> thank you for coming on this morning. we appreciate it. coming up on "morning joe," it could be a contentious day on capitol hill where israeli prime

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what is right, and that they are important and that they are not alone. i think for us as leaders at this moment in time, one of the things we can do best is to remind people they are not alone and that is about building community, about convening and bringing people together, and reinforing the fact that we all have so much more in common than what separates us. >> that was vice president kamala harris at the national urban league's annual conference back in 2022. today, this year's conference kicks off with more than 100 lawmakers, white house officials, business leaders, activists, and celebrities convening in new orleans for the event. joining us now is the president and ceo of the national urban league, mark morial. it's great to have you back on the show. >> good morning. >> current events will be taking

center stage i'm sure today. tell us what and who we can expect today. >> we have a great lineup like cheryl underwood, for example, leslie odom, a number of others will be with us to be honored. the speakers are far and wide but let me share what is maybe on people's mind. project 2025 and a discussion about that plan and what a trump administration might mean when it comes to policy has turned this place on fire. the attacks on divert and equity and inclusion that have taken place and have turned this place on fire. and now with kamala harris on the ticket, the energy around voting has surged. the interest in people to be involved in our reclaiming vote campaign, which is a nonpartisan get out the vote.

we will have a reclaim your vote rally at a black university in new orleans to kick off the event. voting is essential to what people here are talking about and thinking about. >> mark, al sharpton. >> good morning. >> good morning. as we look at this race and the beginning a day of the national urban league's convention, we see that in the last 12 to 18 months, we have seen affirmative action overturned by the supreme court. we have seen dei as an -- the affirmative action under attack. voting rights has been severely impaired by the supreme court's women's right to choose.

give a sense of where, as the urban league convenes, the civil rights community directly feels under attack on some of the laws the generations ahead of us established, have now literally been reversed. >> i'm glad you mentioned that, reverend. i'll be very pleased to welcome you and see you on friday when you'll be a part of the discussion we have on exactly that. we are going to talk about that. i think what we are as civil rights leaders today, we are the bridge to 60 years ago, the civil rights act of '64. the bridge to 70 years, the brown versus the board of education decision. now can define for america why these attacks coming from state legislatures, from the supreme court, from the trump candidacy,

are so severe and important. and i will tell you that people are worried, they are indignant and fired up. most of them have said what can we do and what should we do and how do we fight back and how do we make sure our voice is heard? friday, you and i will lead that discussion, along with several others, because people want to be in the discussion about what they can do. these attacks coming from the supreme court, coming from state legislatures, are so anti-democratic and so anti-american and so undermining of the progress that generations of leaders have helped us make. and they affect our children and they affect our children's children. he with stand in the breach along with many others to say that this direction is not

right. >> this year's national urban league's annual conference kicks off today in new orleans. president and ceo of the national usual aban league, marc morial, thank you for being on. take care. democratic governors kathy hochul of new york and wes moore of maryland, and tony evers of wisconsin will be our guests on their support for vice president kamala harris and what the fight is ahead. plus, hours from now, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu will address a joint session of congress where lawmakers are deeply divided over his leadership. we will discuss what to expect there. and we will speak with the parents of israeli hamas hostage poland who met with netanyahu this week. "morning joe" will be right back. this week. "morning joe" will be right back

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the justice department has opened an investigation into the death of a black woman in illinois who called 911 for help, only to be shot and killed by a responding deputy. nbc news correspondent maggie vespa has the details and the

warning that some viewers may find this avoiding upsetting and disturbing. >> i heard somebody outside. >> we checked your house and your backyard. you walked through these backyards. >> reporter: an illinois woman last moments shown in chill detail on newly released body camera video. prosecutors say on the morning of july 6th, sonya massey called 911 about a possible intruder when two deputies arrived at her springfield home she at times appeared confused. >> i'm trying to get help, y'all, but -- >> what do you need help with? >> nothing. i just -- >> reporter: minutes later, massey picks up what appears to be a pot of boiling water from her stove. the deputy on screen identified by prosecutors as sean grayson. >> drop! [ bleep ]. >> the coroner confirming the

mother of two was faetle shot in the hea grayson has mounted since. president biden this week writing in a statement, sony's family deserves justice. >> he walked around the counter to get a better shot? if you fear for your life, you don't walk towards the person! >> reporter: civil rights attorney ben crump speaking alongside massey's family who say she had suffered from mental health issues. >> you know what i want? i want justice for my baby. >> yeah. >> reporter: grayson was fired from his job with the sheriff's deputy and a grand jury has indicted him on three counts of first degree murder and his attorney declining to comment when reached by nbc news. now the world seeing how one woman's call for help took such a tragic turn.

>> reverend, your thoughts. there is a lot of reporting coming out of this about what was actually said at the scene when others came to see what happened and family members showed up, what they were told versus what was seen on that body cam video. >> no, this is an outrageous is almost an under statement. it's almost an execution that a woman standing there with hot water he told her to take off the stove. he shoots her and comes around the counter to shoot her. i mean, this is the worst video i've seen and i'm saying i did george floyd's funeral and the marches and this is even worse. i know that -- i talked with the father mr. wilburn yesterday with the attorney ben crump and the attorney general of black america and we will be rallying. she had two children. we have a rally in chicago with

reverend marshal on tuesday to rally around her children and to give them some support that i'll be going into chicago with reverend hatchery to support her father and her two children. the policeman has been indicted and been prosecuted but that only is the first step toward justice and we want to see these children are handled and see and feel the support of the community. >> rev, we will be following this story. it is the top of the hour now. her first rally since kicking off her 2024 presidential campaign, vice president kamala harris spoke to supporters just outside of milwaukee, wisconsin, and framed the november election as a choice between the future and the past. nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander has more. >> reporter: vice president kamala harris holding the first rally of her presidential campaign in front of an

energized crowd in critical wisconsin, embracing her likely show down with former president trump. >> i will proudly put my record against his any day of the week. >> reporter: pitching herself as a former prosecutor and going after her political rival a convicted criminal. >> i took on perpetrators of all kinds. predators who abused women. so hear me when i say, i know donald trump's type. >> reporter: zeroing in on mr. trump's praise of the supreme court for overturning roe v. wade. >> we trust women to make decisions about their own body and not have their government tell them what to do! >> reporter: the raucous event coming just hours after harris became the de facto democratic nominee. her campaign announcing she secured public support from a majority of the party's delegates ahead of next month's convention, winning another pair of key endorsements from the two

most powerful democrats today. >> we are here to throw our support today behind vice president kamala harris. >> reporter: president biden will address the nation from the oval office detailing his decision to leave the race among pressure from democrats and what he hopes to do the final six months in office and that much more difficult now as a lame truck. mr. trump off the trail but on his new message now attacking harris. >> reporter: his running mate j.d. vance accusing democrats elite regarding the democratic process that president biden won. >> democrats are the ones who want to throw out 14 million ballots and not elect kamala harris but select kamala harris. it's disgraceful and that is the threat to american democracy!

>> let's bring in mike barnicle and co-host of the politics war room james carville. good to have you both on this morning. james, it's a different dynamic with kamala harris now running for the presidency. a lot of dems are really happy and you can see the excitement that seems like it's been infused into the campaign along democrats at her rallies, but can she convince with the different challenges at play that we have heard about now in elise's focus groups? can she convince swing voters while also fending off trump lies and attacks from the right? >> short answer is i think she can. i say this. this has been a real change in mood in the party and around the country but we got to be a little careful. 10% triumphism is going on. it will be a difficult and close

race. understand that people are feeling a lot better and excited but that excitement has to be tempered with realism. the realism she has a tough campaign to run and as you say she has several things to accomplish at the same time. having said that, there has been real growth in vice president harris. you can just see the difference and she just looks so confident to me yesterday. i didn't put the sound on. i just watched the video and i like what i saw, i'll be honest with you. >> tell me about that realism. tell me about the realism of the months to come. there is a short amount of time and a lot is going to happen. >> you're right. and having put a campaign together right away. i mean, they were, obviously, thinking about this ahead of time but they got to accomplish between now and the convention what most campaigns have 80s months to do. i'm not saying they can't do it. people are excited about the

party is feeling better about iverts and we have a woman, take a nonwhite woman and people genuinely are excited about that, but we also locked in and entrenched opponent who has a lot of part of the country behind him and you got to be ready for that at every point. all of a sudden, the democrats, enjoy yourself and feel good, but tough sledding ahead and let's get together and get this thing done. >> james, let's talk about how the race has changed and to your point it's going to be very, very close. what issues do you think vice president harris can now effectively prosecute and communicate then, president biden? do you think this changes the map? for president biden, it seemed like it was only narrowing and his only path was through the

pennsylvania and wisconsin. >> people wanted something different. 73% told us they wanted something different. as soon as they got something different, you had this real outpouring. i'm not surprised at that at all. and her biggest asset is just compare her to trump, compared to youth, compared to the energy. i think that is going to work well for her going forward. i don't think people are behind her because of [ inaudible ] policy proposal. i think they are behind her because they wanted something different and she represents that. and i think that what is driving this enthusiasm and this era of good feeling that we have right now. of course, the trump people are going to pay her more the same, some horrific urban coastal liberal. they have already started and they will take your plastic

straws away and that was the initial attack. protect those damn straws! they can come in with better than that. >> hey, james, you mentioned a somewhat important issue a couple of minutes ago. watching the video with the sound off yesterday. your political eye, your campaign manager's eye, saw something that a few other people saw, too. you saw a quiet confidence in the vice president that seemed not to be there three or four years ago and it is there now for certain of watching that video with the sound on. we will show you that. so where do you take this quietly confident vice president now? where do you take her? what do you campaign on in most spots? are there any surprise places you'd take her? >> well, first of all her record in 2020 when she ran she wouldn't talk about who she was.

she was an effective prosecutor and effective attorney general and a senator so she couldn't be herself because idiots of the dickic party said you can no longer talk about that but no longer the case. the biggest asset is a consumer advocate and she can go after the companies that price fix and price gouging and what i hope she goes around the country and does events like that so say i'm on the side of the consumer. i know these companies are talking to each other. i know they are fixing prices to take advantage of you, the consumer, and i'm going to fight for you. i would love to see that. i would love her to see her be the people's lawyer of present. >> james, i'm thinking about defense here, too, for her, the questions she will get attacked on and how you would handle some of those attacks. if you put aside the questions of -- you put the racist and sexist questions aside and one she has obvious vulnerability which is about the border.

she has seen biden's borders are and not an issue helpful to democrats in this circle so far. what do you do about that? number two, something they are going after right now that there is some sign that it actually cuts, at least for now with voters, which is cover-up over joe biden's health and they are going to make that argument. i'm not crediting but saying it's out there already and some sign swing voters are open to it. talk about the two areas she needs to defend. >> the second one when she is going to have to defend and discuss and plenty, plenty, good answers and i'm sure she has them. in terms of the border, you know, you could point to the truth and not do any good. she has never a border czar and put in charge of diplomatic activities that a lot of the countries these migrants were coming from.

she has a couple of hours first of all, they walked away from a deal that was negotiated by conservative republicans that had the endorsement of all of the border agencies and she walked away from it because they didn't want a solution. the second thing she can point to rather legitimately is border crossings are down. are we going to win that issue? no, we are not going to win it but we can do a lot better. issue i think to some extent will run out of steam if she gives effective cogent answers and that is important to say that, john. her defense is like the nba. your defensive game is just as important as your offensive game. >> well, the defense on that is really simple. they had a deal. team biden/harris gave the republicans the best deal they could have gotten. they had it. they were in concert with james langford, a conservative republican senator who helped

write it and they killed it for donald trump. so she can put that right back on them. that is on them. they could have had everything they wanted and more and they decided against it for gross politics, for donald trump. they bowed to somebody who wasn't even in office. so she has got a lot to speak for on different issues. i think a lot of it is personal attacks. a lot of it is weird memes they are opening up. they are going to run into situations where they look racist, misogynistic and they have to be really careful, which is something i think they are not good at doing. democratic strategist james carville, it's nice to hear you laugh early in the morning. thank you so much for coming on. >> well, thank you. trust me, they will do sexist and racist things and i promise you, you will not be excited

about that. >> here we go. joining us now is new york state democratic governor kathy hochul. so many governors are stepping up for the vice president. it's great to have you on this morning. thank you for joining us on "morning joe." tell me what you think, especially after that conversation with james carville, the challenges are ahead for vice president kamala harris as we get into the final days of this presidential election. she has taken the baton and running with it, but a lot of experts are saying this isn't going to be easy and this is going to be tight. >> i always run like an underdog, mika. what i've done i've been an elected official for 30 years you always run like an underdog and go in it hungry. democrats are feeling some euphoria now and confidence but don't let confidence turn into complacency. do not take this for granted. we will fight for this and we will win but we have to take it to the streets like old school

politics that i come out of, and i'm the leader of the democratic party in new york and we just put her over the top with gathering of delegates and said we all support her and she has that support and she has democratic support from all of us but she has to it the streets. i'm so excited about getting on the campaign trail with her and also here in new york, fighting to make sure that she send her a democratic congress. that is what we want to do here in new york and i'm laser focused on making sure that hakeem jeffries is elected the speaker so she can have an easier go of it than she had as vice president with president biden when she had an obstructionist republican house standing in the way of everything including impramgs reform like you just spoke about. there is one reason we don't have a strong immigration policy in this country and that person is donald trump. he killed the deal, so she could run on that easily. i'll be there at her side to talk about what they have done,

their policies have done to the state of new york and how biden and harris are worked so hard to try to undo the damage that was done during donald trump's presidency. i'm excited but you never ever take an election for granted. >> governor, as you are talking about standing side-by-side with vice president harris, you bring certain skills to this in the fact that many people outside of new york don't understand new york state where you are governing where you've been an elected official for thirty-two years. it's knots just new york city, but all of the areas in between new york and buffalo and the difference in terms of the terrain of those cities where you have to negotiate what is rural in some cases as well as big city as well as industrial where you come from, western new york. can you give a lot of that advice to the vice president as

she runs between new york and l.a.? because you're familiar with those kind of voters in those kind of challenges and you're governing those kinds of citizens. >> you're absolutely right, reverend al. and we are the heartland. we have our major city in new york city, the world knows new york city. we have a large part of our state that is rural and has traditionally voted republican. i was elected in the most republican district in the state of new york in 2011 in a special election. how did i accomplish that? i hit three republicans on trying to hurt medicare and social security. those issues are just as sailient today as they were in 2011 so we need to keep talking about those to senior citizens and the people in the vfw halls and going into the diners. don't give up on any voter, especially women voters in the suburbs across the state of new york and across our country because guess what.

they know that they had rights. the right to make reproductive decisions, the right to have an abortion that my mother fought for, i took for granted as being there. my daughter now no longer has. it sure as heck better be there when my granddaughter becomes an adult as well. this is a wedge issue in one sense but finally one that works for democrats. i think we can pull back some republicans, suburban women back to the democratic line when they understand they had reproductive rights in place before donald trump and the only promise he kept as president was to take away that right and he was successful. we have to end that. >> yeah. with trump's accomplishments while he was in office that have actually physically hurt women across the country. kamala harris certainly has a case to make to the american people. new york democratic governor kathy hochul, thank you very much for coming on this morning. did you want to say something?

>> thank you. no. i just want to say reverend al and i were together in buffalo when he mentioned buffalo. we were together with kamala harris at a funeral after the massacre of citizens in a grocery store, racist slaughter of individuals that we cared deeply about our neighbors. we saw her in action and she was so compelling and so empathetic and showed she is tough as nails and a prosecutor but she also has this very large heart and i want people to see that as well because that is what we saw witnessed on that day when she spoke at that very stressful situation for the people of buffalo. so we were there together, reverend al. >> thank you for sharing that very much, governor. still ahead on "morning joe," as israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addresses congress this afternoon, families of hostages being held in gaza are lead a protest march in tel aviv before a public

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little respect -- because you know this country? a lot of jewish people are not big fans of israeli which is something that they have never been able to explain to me, but that any jewish person or any person that believes in israeli and loves israeli can even think about voting for a democrat. >> donald trump in an interview with the far right network news max, once again, insulting jewish persons who vote for democrats. it comes as israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is set to address congress today for the first time since the war if gaza cuban. at least 20 democratic members of the house and ten senators say they plan to boycott this afternoon's address. vice president kamala harris will skip the speech as she is scheduled to go to indianapolis for a prescheduled event.

they say harris will have a one-on-one meeting with netanyahu at the white house this week. separately, president biden is expect to meet with the israeli leader on tomorrow and tomorrow will travel to florida with a meeting with trump at mar-a-lago. joining us now from tel aviv is nbc reporter and international court raf sanchez with the latest. >> netanyahu will address the session of congress fourth time more than any other world leader in history, including winston churchill. this is a deeply controversial address at a time when israeli politics are divided and a time when american politics are divided. the families of the american hostages saying are saying what they want the prime minister to say before the house of representatives today is that he is agreeing to a deal to bring

their loved ones home after nearly 300 days in captivity. . we do not expect the prime minister to make that announcement. he says that israeli military pressure is working, that conditions are ripening for a deal but that they are not there yet. what we have been hearing from these families, including speaking in front of the house foreign affairs yesterday is they do not feel that netanyahu has the since of shares, their sense of urgency about bringing these hostages back. earlier in the week the israeli government confirmed two more hostages are now dead in hamas captivity and the families fear with every passing day time is running out for their loved ones. we do expect the israeli leader to thank both republicans and democrats for america's support during the course of the war and we expect him to talk about the threat from iran and its proxies

in yemen and lebanon. in april, israeli and iran appeared to be on the break of an all-out war. two sides exchanging fire. by meet hear from the prime minister about ambition to make a peace deal with saudi arabia but that is something that president biden had hoped to wrap up in his first term and it is is not looking likely now. then as you mentioned, there is that important meeting tomorrow between the prime minister and vice president harris, that is relatively new relationship and it will be interesting to see how those two leaders fare moving ahead. mika? >> nbc's raf sanchez, live from israeli, thank you very much. joining us now are rachel and john goldberg poland. their son was abducted by hamas on october 7th while attending a music festival. on monday, the parents met with prime minister benjamin netanyahu in washington, d.c. and will meet netanyahu again

tomorrow, along with president biden. racial and john, thank you so much for coming on the show this morning. >> thank you for having us. >> rachel, are you feeling the israeli government is doing everything that needs to be done to get your son home? >> well, i definitely don't, because it is 292 days and these 120 cherished human beings are still being held in brutal conditions in captivity, and, you know, we had this opportunity to speak to prime minister netanyahu on monday evening, and one of the things that we have been saying that just strikes us is if you had a hospital and you had the chief medical officer of the hospital walk in and see that in the emergency room there were 120

people lying on the floor, many of them already dead but many able to be saved and that chief medical officer said, you know what? i'm going to go and fly to another country and make a speech about cpr. now cpr is an important topic, but before even leaving the hospital or triaging any of these people, he also turns to the staff' says, and don't touch them for the next four days until thursday. >> right. >> these messages are just devastating for us families. >> there are so many questions that i think that -- especially the families of the hostages -- israeli citizens deserve, john, answers to. one of the reasons why there are still so many hostages is because of the response time to october 7th. have you heard any explanation as to why it took so long? and what are you hoping, john,

to hear from the prime minister when he addresses congress? >> so rachel's analogy was spot on and i really appreciated yesterday in a meeting on the hill with leader hakeem jeffries. he said you need the fierce urgency of now and that is it. that is what has been missing. i think prime minister netanyahu is really looking to get this deal done. i think he understands that he needs this deal to get done for the people of israeli to be able to begin to move forward from what happened on october 7th. he needs this deal to cement his legacy. he can't be the guy who oversaw october 7th and didn't bring home the hostages. he needs to be the guy who oversaw october 7th and did bring home the hostages but we need him to do that now, today. regarding october 7th, the beginnings of findings are being

reported, key berry who was hit super hard on that day had findings that were published and i think -- are not happy with the details of the report. it will take a long time to figure out the mistakes that happened leading up to and on october 7th, but, again, the first step is let's bring home the hostages. then we will get to the work of figuring out do we make sure that the mistakes that happened can never be repeated. >> rachel, john just mentioned the urgency of now. you mentioned this is 292 days after your son and the other hostages were taken. that is eternity of time. it's unimaginable to anyone with children or loved ones would be in such a situation. so my question to you is across those two 292 days, have you ever received definitive answer

to the question of what happened and why aren't the hostages been released? what is going on with the negotiations? why not now? have you ever received a successful answer in either tel aviv or in washington to that question? >> well, we have had a crash course in the way that geo politics work, unfortunately, and we understand that there are interests and equities that every single party has. now, our interest in equity is a very simple one. he is a beautiful boy named hersh and the hostage families have 119 other hersh's and every family has a beautiful loved one who they are waiting for. i think that when things become political, it's not necessarily

everyone's first priority to get home loved ones and cherished human beings. sometimes, there are things that are more political and that are considered bigger, more tricky, more intricate interests in equities, and i think that we are not privy to that. i think that the leaders and the people in power and with influence are not going to share that with the families of the hostages. and so we haven't had definitive answers. we have had, sometimes people saying that this is simply a political question of is someone afraid of doing something that might topple a fragile coalition? i don't know, because, again, i'm not an expert in these areas, but it is too long. it's absolutely unacceptable, and i think that it's at the point where it's completely shameful. and there are other bigger

issues and topics in the region and you have hundreds of thousands of people, you know, for just a moment -- we talk, obviously, about hersh and the hostages a lot because that keeps up literally up every single night for almost 300 days but there are hundreds of thousands of gaza civilians in the cross-hairs as well who are innocent. so you have an entire region suffering excruciatingly and it is time to release the pressure valve and the way to do that is with this deal. we know from the north, hezbollah has made it very clear that their attacking of the north is an allegiance with hamas and what is happening in gaza and that that will stop also with this deal. we know that the houthis are also being aggressive because of what is happening. this is a sure fire way to

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let's also make no mistake, this campaign is not just about us versus donald trump. this campaign is about who we fight for. this campaign is also about two different visions for our nation. one, where we are focused on the future. the other focused on the past. >> joining us now democratic governor wes moore of maryland. governor, great to have you on the show. i loved your tweet. >> great to see you. >> donald trump is about to find

out being president in the united states is a black job. so why don't we go there and talk about donald trump. i'm sure you've been watching his leadership closely and the attacks on kamala harris. what do you think the challenges are going to be in kamala harris' candidacy, especially in terms of donald trump's behavior? i feel like he has given a pass a lot on mental fitness. that, i don't understand. but he certainly has a mean side, i think it's fair to say, and do you think that she's capable of managing a campaign against someone who doesn't work and play by the rules? >> i could not be more excited about the candidacy of vice president to become the next president of the united states because now i think we have a chance to really have a conversation about this very real contrast, because you're absolutely right. when the vice president is speaking about the vision for

our country, when she is talking about economic pathways and how with the biden and harris administration to drive historic lows with the unemployment and in the black community the fastest start in businesses owned by african american men in 30 years. that the vice president is coming with receipts. what we are hearing from the president of the united states on -- from the former president donald trump is i'm glad we are not seeing how this dangerous rhetoric and, frankly, also his dangerous vision, is now going to be the centerpiece of this conversation. you know, we have someone who continues to double down on divisiveness and the attack on basic freedoms. in our vice president we have someone who spent her life defending them, so this is the contest, this is the debate we have been waiting to have and i'm excited for her because i'm excited because i think that will make us successful in november. >> your name has been mentioned among many as a possible running

mate for vice president harris. have you heard from her campaign? even if not, would you be interested? >> i'm very flattered that the calls and encouragement continue to come in and i think people are paying attention to what is happening in maryland. if you will look in our time in office from 43rd in unemployment and now at 2.8% in terms of unemployment. public safety, maryland hat steepest drops in violence and homicide in the entire period. i'm thankful and humble that people are paying attention what is happening here in maryland. i will do anything to make sure that kamala harris is the next president of the united states. i think it's important to our country and to the fabric of our democracy. i know i'm in love with my job and in love with the people of

my state and i'm very happy to continue serving as the governor of the state of maryland. >> governor, i know your wife well and i think she would embrace what you just said that you already have a job, even though you're flattered that other people are recommending you for another job. but it is that job that you're doing and the job that governors around the country are facing that i want to bring you back to what vice president harris has got to run on, is which way are we going in the future, which she says so as well. those that know her is that she will not be intimidated by donald trump playing the street fight because she spent her life prosecuting guys like him. the vision of where the country is going, is that not what we will define in this election? and how do you think we keep our eye on the prize, keep your eye on the ball if we are going to score for those who want to keep

moving the country forward as far as civil liberties and civil rights and voting rights and women's right? >> that's right, rev. we all know the danger of donald trump. he has shown us when he was the president of the united states. he has shown us since he has been the president of the united states. in the vice president and kamala harris, we have someone who can uniquely prosecute the case. prosecute the past of donald trump and prosecute the present of donald trump, and prosecute the future vision of donald trump. so we know that that is going to happen and it's going to be important. you're absolutely right. the reason i am so excited about vice president kamala harris becoming the next president of the united states is not because i'm afraid of the alternative. i know the alternative wants to get rid of medicare and get rid of social security. i know the alternative wants to put a national ban on reproductive health and reproductive rights for our women. i know the alternative has no plan to create pathways for work, wages, and wealth for all members of our community and not

just those who he knows. the reason i'm so excited about the vice president is i know her vision is that we actually can have a country that can deal with the issues of getting these illegal guns and weapons of war off of our streets and to keep our families safe, that her vision is to make sure that that conversation. reproductive health and women's health care should be between a woman and her doctor and nobody else. that this is a person who understands what it means to create pathways for long-term wealth, having the ability to own more than you owe. she has a track record of getting this work done and she has a vision or what it's going to look like for the future of our country, and i am excited to support her, not because i'm afraid of the alternative. but because i'm so inspired by the vision. that is why people are out here in droves to support the vice president. >> governor, it's heilemann here. the attacks on her have come fast and furious already. no doubt they are going to get more vicious as we get deeper

into the campaign. them are blatantly racist. if you talked to people who ran obama's campaign since 2008 and 2012 we looked at those attacks saying they are trying to bait us on the terrain that is not available to us so we want to stay away from anything enter to a debate about identity, debate about race. let's try to keep that -- try to not take the bait. that was always their argument with barack obama. i ask you whether you -- what your advice would be to nominee harris, vice president harris, as she gets hit what is going to be unending assault on her as the dei candidate, the dei vice president, all of that. how do you handle that in a way that both is forceful but also doesn't draw you in to an area that may not be most fortuitous to you politically going forward? >> you know, i remember months back when the tragic and deadly

key bridge attack happened in my state. and i remember that there are people who were some people putting out on x saying this is the dei governor and dei did this and people asked me for my comment. i told them i have no time for foolishness. i told them at that time i was trying to make sure we could recover the bodies of the people we lost and make sure we could return them to the families to give they the closure they needed and i was there to support the tens of thousands of port workers who instantaneously out of a job and give them the support they need and to make sure to get the port of baltimore reopened which represents 13% of my economy and which serves two-thirds of this country. so when people ask me questions about being a dei governor, my answer was i have no time for foolishness because i'm dock the work and i'm locked in and i think that is exactly the approach that the vice president can and should and will take on

this. we don't have time for the distractions. we got too much work to do. we have too much work to do to serve the people of this country and that is what they asked for and what she deserve. stay locked in and let the foolishnesses do what they do but we don't focus on that. we do the work. >> maryland governor wes moore, thank you, as always. thanks for coming on the show this morning. >> thank you. >> we appreciate it and good to see you. ahead, donald trump's campaign is making a major change in response to the assassination attempt on the former president. we will tell you what that is. plus, oversight committee chairman james comer continues to defend his impeachment investigation into president biden last night on fox news. but it didn't work out that well for him. we will show you what happened ahead on "morning joe." ahead on "morning joe. but it didn't work out that well for him. we'll show you what happened ahead on "morning joe.

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close to the campaign say it's open to doing small outdoor events. jonathan lemire, still a lot of questions about how that happened and more to come on that. what are you hearing? >> first on the trump campaign schedule. yeah, they are suggesting they might do small outdoor events that could be completely secure. they don't want a large venue like last saturday where there were security lapses and the gunman was perched on the roof. as far as the secret service director, there was unattainable. in her testimony, she owned the mistake, and she made clear the ultimate responsibility laid with her, she was the director, and yesterday she heeded the calls to step down and did so. while that was happening, it was not quiet as to what happened.

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one reason trump might be struggling to find a good attack on harris is deep down he likes her, because we know when she was running for california attorney general, trump donated to her re-election campaign. yeah, $5,000. as fox news is reporting it,

bombshell, kamala harris took money from convicted felon. >> kamala harris in a poll shows she was leading trump. you think harris was laughing before. kamala is a hit, and she wears less eyeliner than j.d. vance. she raised $81 million in just hours. it's wednesday, july 24th, and with us jonathan lemire, and

chief political columnist, john heilman, and host of msnbc's "politic nation," and the former senior adviser is spokesperson to vice president kamala harris. joe and willie are traveling this morning. we will get to three different polls after joe biden withdrew from the race. yes, absolutely, i am part of a winning team that beat donald trump, and i am part of a winning team that has been historic for four years.

>> i think republicans don't know what to do here. because they don't know what to do, they cannot argue against the substance of what the president and vice president have done over the almost last four years. they immediately resorted to racist and sexist type of attacks. trump said a woman can't be president? what are you saying? what is going on here? this is an opportunity for democrats to stay focused. everything is not rosy, and there are thorny issues they will have to address, but i think the harris campaign is on solid ground. >> let's take a look at the polls, and first from reuters and ipsos.

kamala harris leading by two points, 44% versus 42%, and a week ago it was trump up two points over biden, so a shift within the shift. according to this poll, trump leads harris by two points among registered voters. last week the survey found trump leading biden by six. and then a maris college poll on monday, it shows trump leading by a single point. all of the new polls results are still within the margin of error. meanwhile, kamala harris held the first rally of her campaign yesterday outside of milwaukee,

wisconsin. the vice president was on the offensive throughout the 20-minute speech attacking donald trump. she framed the election as a prosecutor versus the felon, and a fighter for middle class versus somebody that indicators to billionaires. >> in this campaign, i promise you i will proudly put my record against his any day of the week. as attorney general of california, i took on one of our country's largest for-profit colleges that was scamming students, and donald trump ran a college that scammed students. as a prosecutor, i specialized

in cases involving sexual abuse. well, trump was found liable for committing sexual abuse. as attorney general of california i took on the big wall street banks and held them accountable for fraud. donald trump was just found guilty of fraud on 34 counts. but donald trump wants to take our country backward. he and his extreme project 2025 agenda will weaken the middle class, like we know we got to take this seriously. can you believe they put that thing in writing? read it. it's 900 pages. here's the thing. when you read it, you will see donald trump intends to cut social security and medicare.

he intends to give tax breaks to billionaires and big corporations and make working families foot the bill. america has tried these failed economic policies before, but we are not going back. we are not going back. not going back. we're not going back. we are not going back. >> all right. you can see the excitement there for kamala harris. a lot of people inside the campaign from folks i am talking to are really feeling it. these polls, this, jonathan lemire, is a great place to start when you are either neck and neck or edging ahead or not edging too far behind for a

candidate jumping in, what, 100 days before election. this will be about resilience, of course, to get through the next three months and who she surrounds herself with. what is your reporting about what is going on inside the campaign in terms of how they are going to put this together and move forward quickly? >> so far it has been pretty seamless, the transition from biden for president to harris for president. first a couple shifts, mike donaldland, he is working on the campaign, and otherwise most of the key campaign staff staying in place. they are looking for additional

hires. jim acena, there has been outreach to him. these are veterans of the obama campaign. and the campaign cherry phaeupbz she remains the chair. she acknowledges that harris, doing better than president biden, and also donald trump in some other key voting areas. young voters, black voters, latino voters, and voters democrats have grown worried about, and there's a sense now, reverend al sharpton, that they could excite those voters and bring some states home. arizona, georgia, nevada, a few weeks ago, they seemed they

could be slipping away but now they could be back in play. >> absolutely. they could bring back voters, and black voters and latina voters, and one of the things they must be cautious of is to get the enthusiasm we have seen over the last 48 hours but sustained it. we saw enthusiasm in 2016 around clinton. i think you played the backboard like you are playing basketball, every crazy shot that donald trump takes at her, use it to score. this whole thing of saying she's a dei selection because she's black -- >> oh, my god. >> you use that to energize your black base even more. i hope he keeps saying stupid things. he rolls out people convicted of

crimes, rap stars, and acts like that's the picture of the black community. you roll out people that are legitimate people, and there's nothing wrong with those wanting to redo their lives, black stars, and he tried to act like he reaches out. was that a dei video, mr. trump? use his own weight against him. >> yeah, and that is racist and one that seems like it plays for the republican straties, and less of a winning strategy in a general election. we watched the vice president's rally, and a breath of fresh air, and she was communicating attack lines in a way they had not heard from the democratic ticket in sometime.

she's got momentum. the timing, even after it took president biden to get to this decision, it may work in her favor, where she has a burst of energy, her rally and convention, and we need to start seeing that around polls, too. >> all true. in the long arc of history, nobody will bea grudge president biden to take three weeks to make that decision to step aside. even though everybody was impatient who wanted him to step aside, the reality is having done it and take those three weeks, and they got this decision to the other side of the republican convention, where

there's a run for vice president harris to run and march and take that momentum she has into the chicago convention. many thought the convention should be a nightmare for joe biden and an open uncontested convention, and it now seems like it could be a love fest behind the new nominee. the crucial sentence, which is -- this was something she said before when joe biden was still at the top of the ticket and something she's saying now. 7% of the electorate is undecided, and that group has been all along disproportionally made up of african american voters, hispanic voters and young voters. the hope of the biden campaign was previously that those voters that were democratic-leaning voters to be brought home and be

enthusiastic for joe biden, and now with the harris candidacy, those seem to be available voters that have the potential to be brought back in the democratic fold. and donald trump had 95% of the republicans who were with him. if she can bring the democratic base home and get those voters home, and she has a good chance to do that, they will be in a better position to win with her, and no disrespect to joe biden but i think that's a correct analysis. >> i think kamala harris as a candidate, is, in my opinion, is already and will continue to expose the nastiness on the republican side that perhaps even some republicans have been

so to. biden will deliver a prime minister address from the oval office at 8:00 p.m. he will outline his plans for the rest of his time in office. meanwhile, "the new york times" reports ahead of tonight's address, former president trump's campaign sent a letter to abc, nbc, and cbs, demanding trump be given equal time. symone, while this has been a difficult decision for joe biden and one that perhaps has been made more difficult by members of his own party, nobody is better at pressing the reset button than joe biden. he's stood by harris since the beginning and is extremely loyal and believes in people, and

that's why his people succeed, because they have the backing of their mentors. joe biden will fight for her as well. it's interesting, because the fight here now will be against trump's lies, because, again, as i said before, a very successful presidency. it's not like kamala harris is picking up the pieces of a mess. she's actually taking the baton from a presidency that has made history. that's one argument she will need to make. the other challenge will be to keep up with the disinformation that donald trump and his people put out there, whether it be about foreign leaders and who our friends and enemies are on the world stage or about joe biden's accomplishments. >> i had to laugh, mika, because donald trump doesn't understand that joe biden is still the president of the united states of america, and you don't get to

demand time, equal time, because he's still the president. people have been talking about joe biden as though he's gone. he is going to come before the american people tonight and tell them not only am i not gone, i'm here and i will do everything i can to support my vice president. let me also tell you how i plan to finish the job that i am still -- that i am still doing. there's so much work left to do that this administration can get done. we are still on the cusp of a deal happening between hamas and israel to end that war, get the hostages back and get to some form of a peace agreement. that's just one thing there. when it comes to the vice president and her campaign, absolutely. there's a record that this administration has. there's a record that she has. this is also going to be about the future, though. there are -- we have already heard the attacks, right, coming from the republicans. i think these are not new. the vice president herself has

been one of the people very much so targeted by the beginning of the administration by the right winged media. when i went to work at the white house, they didn't focus on pence or biden, al gore, you can go down the line. the focus on her was insane and also intense. this is not something new to her apparatus, but people have to counter the misinformation. you are hearing about the border czar, and she was not the border czar. you will have to make that case. talking about inflation and her record as a prosecutor, who did she prosecute. those are things you see the vice president herself positioning. it's only going to get more intense as we barrel towards not even just november, but people start voting in september, mika. >> wow. still ahead on "morning joe," we will look at what

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president biden's selfless decision has given the democratic party the opportunity to unite behind a new nominee, and, boy, oh, boy, are we enthusiastic. we are here today to throw our support behind vice president kamala harris. >> kamala harris and her candidacy has excited and energized the house democratic caucus, the democratic party and the nation. vice president harris has earned the nomination. >> senate minority leader, chuck schumer, and house minority leader, hakeem jeffries,

highlighting how they may have the first female president with kamala harris. she's entering the race with unique weapons that hillary clinton did not have eight years ago. what kind of weapons, i'll put that in quotes, that you are talking about that puts kamala harris in a unique position to have an advantage here? >> my question, mika, is what changed since 2016, since 2022, and since i wrote my book about the role that vice president harris plays in washington. she is going to be at the top of the ticket. she has more proof of purchase.

people have seen since 2016 the 2018 influx of women elected to the house. they have then see the role after 2022 that the dobbs decision will play. i was listening to your conversation about symone about the idea of republicans focusing on immigration and the border. that was not a good time. i think symone would agree for vice president harris and her early years in the white house, but the immediate coalescing around her has so much to do with the way she spent the last year and a half on the campaign trail. that's because the topic set has flowed to her skill set, which is to say that she's the perfect messenger on reproductive access and abortion health care, and she has shown that out on the campaign trail. she's a different candidate, even watching her in the last few days, than she was when i covered her in 2019 and 2020, and also after her first year in the white house, many people are

paying attention to that. i think it's really important to point out the ways in which the landscape has changed. i think the way we talk about not just women being elected in 2018, and the dobbs decision in 2022, but most of the experts and leaders i spoke to for this piece said, look at michigan, where it's mostly women elected in that state, and that tells a larger story to people, that women can win when they run and voters have to vote for them and that's a proof point when we talk about harris not as a historic candidate, which she is, but also somebody that can be electable. >> in a guest essay for "the new york times" entitled "how kamala harris can win and make

history." she writes, i know a thing or two how hard it can be for strong women candidates to fight through the sexism and double standards. i was not running to break a barrier. i was running because i thought i was the most qualified to do the job. while it still pains me i was not able to break the highest, hardest glass ceiling. mrs. harris will face unique challenges as the first black and south asian woman to be at the top of the party's ticket. that's real. we should not be afraid. it's a trap to believe that progress is impossible. i couldn't agree more. jonathan lemire, i will let you take it back to alley. kamala harris made a point about some of her experience, and it's

not just the vice president working on the world stage, and not just her job in the senate, and not just her experience as an attorney general but her experience as a prosecutor. i say that because whether it's in a speech or somebody lobbing an inappropriate question at her or during a debate, kamala harris is used to dealing with highly unusual situations. she's dealt with criminals and abusers, people who have absolutely no -- no walls, no boundaries around what they might say or might do. people who behave irrationally. she used to that behavior and can manage it. she is not shocked by it all.

even bold-face lying and personal attacks, and that's something she's got. >> she's ready for this moment. that is clear. look, there have been questions at times about some of her political talents, in part stemming from her 2019-2020 presidential campaign didn't go very well, and she didn't make to it iowa. frankly, those skeptical of her at first say she has grown into the moment, and we saw her become the administration's leading voice on abortion and health care over the last few years, and i was struck how often in the first days of her campaign, she is invoking, as mika said, her time as an

attorney, and her prosecutor background was held against her by democrats and now it's seen as a real strength. >> held against her by democrats, including some black voters. i remember going to south carolina and hearing this from voters and also hearing it from congressman jim clyburn at the time when we talked about why she had not yet caught on. i think harris in 2019 was a different politician than she is now. her resume is matching where she is now, not just saying she's a prosecutor going against a felon, and she laid that out in her first rally, but also the way she's been able to speak to women and be the first vice president to go to a abortion-providing clinic, and she's central around the conversation of health care practices, and that's the issue i would put money on being the

thing that turns voters outside of do i want to vote for a democrat or republican? that's important. this is now normal, the idea that women can run and be at the top of the ticket. that is normalizing. >> clinton lost wisconsin by one point in 2016 to trump. and next we will have a look at how voters there are sizing up this presidential election. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ with fastsigns, create factory grade visual solutions to perfect your process. ♪♪

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george w. bush administration, she sat down with voters to get their thoughts on the election. first, elise, tell us who these voters are that you spoke with? >> hi, mika. last night i spoke down with two groups of wisconsin voters, the all-important voters in the state where around 20,000 votes decided the last two presidential elections. we spoke to a group of female trump supporters and then we spoke to a group of right-leaning swing voters to hear what they thought about the recent shake-up in the election and how they see the campaign. now, mika, i will say that i had been in wisconsin about a month ago doing similar focus groups, and i was really shocked at what a burst of energy the new nomination of vice president harris has given the race in the sense of how the trump

supporters responded and how the swing voters responded. i am excited to for everybody to hear directly from the voters at this moment. >> right. let's listen to one of the groups you spoke with. women trump supporters in wisconsin. i'll say it again. women trump supporters in wisconsin. here's some of what they had to say to you about vice president kamala harris. >> do you think that having vice president kamala harris as the nominee dramatically changes donald trump's odds of winning? >> i am worried about it. >> yes. >> i think she's going to go for the minority and female and younger voters. >> progressive. >> everybody is excited about her. >> right. >> and that scares me, you know, because trump has to reconfigure where he's going and how they are going to outsmart her.

>> how do you perceive vice president harris compared to president biden in terms of competency and experience? >> i think she's worse. >> she doesn't even know what is going on at the border, and that's -- >> what she was supposed to be doing. >> and then as a schoolteacher, if i did not do what i was supposed to be doing, you better believe my job would be in jeopardy. well, it isn't. not only was her job not in jeopardy, she was just handed a promotion. >> is there anyone that kamala harris could appoint as her vice president that you would find reassuring, would make you reconsider voting for her? >> no, no, never consider voting for her. >> i would vote rfk way before

her. >> i am assuming nobody voted for hillary in 2016? >> no. >> when do you think america will have a female president? >> when there's a competent one. >> i don't get a good feel for her. >> i think she's an idiot. >> right. >> mary, why do you think she's not that bright? >> because she has not done anything in the time that she's had. we don't know anything about her as far as her three years so far in the white house. she's not real smart. that's my opinion. it could be wrong. >> if vice president kamala harris wins the election, do you think that will be an honest result? >> no. >> no. >> nobody respect her. >> that was trump supporters weighing in on vice president harris. up next, we're going to hear from swing voters, what they had to say about the newly minted

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hey, elise, i am interested in this, and the other group you did, the swing group, the center right voters. i'm interested because one of the things the trump campaign has done, aside from the sexis and racist acts in the last couple of days, in the digital video there's a focus on she was in on it, she was concealing president biden's health and trying to make that one of the many arguments they want to make about her. i am curious in that group, in the center right group, not in the maga group, what do you hear from them about that issue? i am trying to get a sense if that's something that she will

have to deal with going forward? >> that's a great question because that's exactly what we are about to hear in the next clip and why we chose this clip because it came out so organically, the idea that these right-leaning voters are grappling with considering vice president harris but they feel misled by the biden administration about biden's fitness, so they don't necessarily trust her and they question if she played a role in a so-called cover up in president biden's health. let's listen to the second group of voters. these are undecided voters that talk about their caveats with donald trump and with kamala harris. >> if you have one concern about president trump, tell me that concern and then what is your one concern about kamala harris.

>> for me, my concern about trump is him making too aggressive of choices and us not being able to recover from it. i appreciate that he is willing to if obama is dropped on our doorstep, he is out as fast as it hit us, but my concern about harris, if obama is dropped on our doorstep, it will be six months before she moves and we are viewed as weak. it makes me a little nervous on both sides. >> what about you? >> it would be nice if they would concentrate more on the issues instead of the mudslinging and personal attacks. i mean, we have problems in this country, and let's try to find the common ground where we can agree on things. let's start with that. >> what about you, karen? >> i don't think we can ignore

trump's convictions, his integrity, his moral character. i worry about him if he gets retaliation for, you know, something -- if he gets upset he will retaliate without slowing down and thinking it through. i honestly need to get more information about kamala because i don't know enough about her, so i will have to wait and see. i have to kind of step back and see and i have learned a lot just through our conversation today about her that i found really interesting. >> who do you blame for president biden being in office in this condition? who deserves the blame? >> his close staff.

they work with him every day. >> that's what also makes me nervous about vice president harris. >> talk about that a bit? >> yes, she will be in it, but she also helped keep him in where he is at now, and if he's really as bad as they have been saying, if he steps down and she steps in before the end of his term, it makes me question more why it didn't happen sooner. she has worked with him, and she has been, to my understanding, with him daily, or at least a couple days a week, and if she's willing to hide that type of information, once she's in office, what is she willing to hide for herself? i think that makes me uneasy, and not necessarily that i wouldn't vote for her because of that, but leads to that questioning as to why now? why are you being okay for exposing biden's health

concerns? because it benefits you? i don't know what that questioning looks like. >> was it a power grab? >> does anybody agree with her point that it calls into the vice president's judgment that she has been around while biden's health has deteriorated? >> 100%. >> it also seems like that's kind of how she carries herself. she does what she needs to do in the moment to continue to move up. >> so interesting. i love these, elise. they really give a sense of how people are thinking in the swing states, independent voters, and voters who are still maybe making a decision. i am curious. it almost is like you get a sense of what the challenge will be for vice president harris when you speak to these voters. who will you be speaking today? >> we are leaving the national

railroad museum that hosted us last night to talk to the green bay voters, and we are heading to madison to talk to progressive voters under the age of 40, and then we will hear about traditional democratic voters about how they feel about president biden leaving the race and the new candidate, kamala harris. >> thank you so much. symone, i am wondering what your thoughts there on some of the voters' comments. the decision joe biden came to was painful and because of a lot of things happened within the democratic party. i think you and i are aligned about that, and i am very concerned about the narrative, and i do believe it comes from the right, that there was lying about his situation, about his abilities and, you know, it was a big cover-up. these are the types of things

that will happen to kamala harris as the race progresses, and those voters just proved it. what do you think? >> look, my point about the right-wing media machine that has been targeting the vice president from the beginning, every since she was put on the ticket as a running mate in 2020, and that same machine was targeting president biden even during his 2020 campaign, throughout the entirety of the time he served in the white house as president. what those voters are saying is what is being repeated insesantly throughout right wing media, and on social media, and these are not conservative outlets, but they are right-wing outlets, and because people heard it so often they take it to be true. the campaign will have to do the work of countering the narrative. they have to pick and choose,

because some of the things you won't be able to -- to -- it's like how can you undo four or five years of negative media coverage and lies about the president and vice president? lastly, mika, this is why the president's address from the oval office today is so important. literally reading some of the things online, and right-wing media, and even mainstream media, they would have you believe joe biden is no longer the president of the united states, and that couldn't be further from the truth. you can't ignore when you see the president sitting from -- i don't know if he will be at the resolute desk, elise talked to in wisconsin. >> we just heard from voters in wisconsin. and coming up, we're going to hear from that state's governor, democrat tony evers is our guest

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and welcome to the fourth hour of "morning joe." it's just before 6:00 a.m. on the west coast, 9:00 a.m. in the east. jonathan lemire, mike barnicle and reverend al sharpton are still with us. president joe biden is set to

address the nation one day after vice president kamala harris held the first rally of her presidential campaign. nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander has the details. >> reporter: president biden set to address the nation tonight from the oval office for the first time since abruptly dropping out of the presidential race. >> what will your message be tomorrow night? >> reporter: the president returning to the white house tuesday after recovering from covid, the first public sighting since his weekend bombshell. a white house official telling nbc news the president will explain his decision to exit the race. ♪♪ marking her presidential campaign debut in wisconsin, vice president kamala harris walking out to beyoncé's hit "freedom." harris now the de facto democratic nominee, accusing former president trump of looking to take the country backwards, while comparing herself a former prosecutor, to mr. trump, a convicted criminal. >> i took on perpetrators of all

kinds. so hear me when i say i know donald trump's type. >> reporter: the two top democrats in congress, chuck schumer and hakeem jeffries the latest to endorse her candidacy. and overnight hillary clinton, who lost to mr. trump in 2016, praising harris in a "new york times" op-ed, writing, i know she can defeat donald trump, but warning mrs. harris' record and character will be distorted and disparaged by a flood of disinformation and the kind of ugly prejudice we're already hearing from maga mouthpieces. and on the republican side there is new backlash to some attacking her race. one republican congressman referring to harris as a dei or diversity, equity and inclusion vice president. >> 100% she was a dei hire. >> reporter: some other conservative members echoing that language. >> i think it's just a failure from top to bottom. i think she was a dei hire. >> reporter: republican leaders

warning against those attacks. >> this election is going to be about policies not personalities. this is not personal with regard to kamala harris and her ethnicity or her gender, it has nothing to do with this whatsoever. >> reporter: meanwhile, old video of mr. trump's running mate j.d. vance is resurfacing, referring to harris and other prominent democrats as, quote, the childless left. >> we're effectively run in this country via the democrats, via our corporate ol owe gashings by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices they've. >> reporter: mr. trump is zeroing in on her record. >> she was the worst at everything. she was the worst vice president. >> peter alexander with that report. cat ladies unite. joining us now democratic governor tony evers of wisconsin, he was with vice president harris yesterday at her rally outside milwaukee, and, governor, thank you so much for being on the show this

morning. i want to know how you're feeling about her campaign, especially after seeing her at the rally connecting with people and what are your feelings about the challenges ahead? >> she did a great job yesterday. it was an extraordinary day. people were fired up, there was a large, large crowd, we couldn't have put any more people in the room, over 3,000. she hit the right notes. she talked about her background, she talked about making sure that we have good health and good roads, good infrastructure and she took on the former president, too, about his issues. so i just was really pleased with what happened yesterday. lots and lots of energy. this is going to be -- we will win this -- we will win in wisconsin, she will win in wisconsin come november 5th so i'm looking forward to that.

>> governor, obviously going forward it's going to be a campaign where she will be vilified by the right. she probably expects that. everyone expects that. but basically this looks to be a contest that's steering up between yesterday and tomorrow. trump -- past trump administration and tomorrow perhaps of a vice president harris' administration. so in those terms specifically, the things that help people in state after state, including wisconsin, what impact would it have on wisconsin if something like child tax credit finally passed and helped children in wisconsin? what impact does that make on a state? >> huge. it's part of our -- you know, it's a -- of our economy in wisconsin. we are reliant on the child care industry itself, making sure that if people want to go to work, that they have somebody to take care of their kids. we've been working for that for a long time here in wisconsin and at the federal level,

whatever they can do to make sure that child care -- it is so important for our little kids to be able to have that kind of help going forward, but it is also important, you know, somebody has to leave the workforce and we have a low unemployment rate in the state of wisconsin and we can't afford if people want to work they should work and they are working, but in order for them to -- for many of them to do that they have to have high-quality child care. i know it's a federal issue, it's a state issue, too. that's a winner for us. >> governor, al sharpton. as we see this race now coming to what is going to be full swing very shortly after the democratic convention, you are the governor of a state that has to deal with the rural, as well as the urban centers of milwaukee. what are the issues both in your state, which is going to be critical, and around the country where you have this mixture

where the country is going to be decided really by a lot of battleground states like your state? what are the issues that you think will most energize your voters to come out? you're a democratic governor. there's clearly going to be a tight race there in my opinion between mr. trump and vice president harris. what do you think will drive a maximum turnout among democratic voters? >> whether they're rural or urban in the state of wisconsin issues around making sure that we have good infrastructure, but good schools, good health care, all those things that -- that, you know, i mentioned earlier, that's -- those are real issues, those are city issues. so i think kamala harris has the right tone, the right -- the right energy around these issues. she's going to be talking about the future. obviously president trump,

former president trump, is going to be fighting around what the heck happened when he was president and what he's been doing since, which god knows what that is. so it is -- it is a rural and urban issue. she will win wisconsin focusing on infrastructure, making sure we have good roads, making sure that we have broadband for everybody. a positive view of the future, that's what she's going to bring to that and whether you're a rural person in wisconsin, urban or suburban, those things are critically important. >> governor, tonight from the oval office president biden will address the nation and discuss why he is not running for reelection. i want to give you this moment to discuss what sort of president do you think joe biden has been and your thoughts on his decision to step aside. >> yeah, that was really difficult. that was an emotional issue for me personally. i am a friend of his, i got to know him during his time in office and he's done so much for

the state of wisconsin. i know that's the case for any other -- any of the other 49 states in the usa, whether it's issues abroad, the whole issue of making sure we have broadband. we are not done with that issue, we have to continue. things that he did for our state around infrastructure, making sure that our roads are safe, you know, we talk about fixing the damn roads all the time and we couldn't have done it without him. he's been a leader and he's done the right thing for wisconsin. having him drop out was, you know, maybe not a surprise, but, you know, it -- he did it in a way that i think he runs his life and runs his politics and that is just doing the right thing for people. we're going to miss him. he's going to be here for the next several months and so i'm looking forward to working with him, but he has been extraordinary president and i've been around a while, i've been -- and he's easily one of

the best. >> all right. democratic governor tony evers of wisconsin, thank you so much for being on the show this morning. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks a lot. all right. let's bring in special correspondent at vanity fair and host of the fast politics podcast molly jong-fast and jun who knows wisconsin well, jim vandehei. i want to ask you about swing voters in wisconsin and what kamala harris has to do to address any concerns she may have and just listening to elise jordan's focus groups disinformation that they are taking in as fact. it is definitely, i think, fair to argue that kamala harris looking like she has the delegates and getting an endorsement by joe biden and being picked as his successor has changed the game. you even see polls upticking for

her against trump. think about this, donald trump has already had his convention and he made it all about joe biden and all sorts of other things and that's almost all sort of in the past now and there's this whole new story, but what does she need to do to hold on to that momentum for swing voters in wisconsin? >> yeah, listen, i think that the -- this has been a 50/50 country for decades, certainly for the last several elections so it's safe to assume that she's going to come out of the democratic national convention probably tied, maybe slightly up, her poll numbers will certainly i would think be better than joe biden's. she's going to get a lot of favorable coverage, a lot of money is flowing in and she will be the beneficiary of that. i think that's what the trump campaign fully expects. then it comes down to essentially being the same race it was before, which is you have seven states and a couple hundred thousand people in those seven states that matter and really it comes down to three

states, it's michigan, it's wisconsin and it's pennsylvania. it's black men, hispanics, young voters who i would call trump curious but not trump sold. she's going to have to persuade them, whether they're double haters, lethargic, undecided, has to be able to convince them she is a superior conservative. she can't say i'm going to run for the future because she is part of this administration, she's going to have to answer for immigration, she's going to have to answer for inflation. there is no way to duck that. and so she's going to have to figure that out. and then figure out how does she differentiate herself from the president when she's still in office and he's still in office. i think that will be tricky. al gore went through a similar process when he was a sitting vice president run to go succeed a president. >> molly, jim makes a good point that certainly at the end of the day this race likely will be decided by a pretty small set of voters in a handful of states, but there is no question that right now there is a burst of

energy and enthusiasm for the democrats they have not felt in a long time. that we're seeing the fundraising numbers, seeing people come out to volunteer, you know, and certainly we ary raucous crowd in wisconsin yesterday for the vice president. as far as rollouts go, not bad. >> yeah, i think this was all anyone could possibly hope for or even dare to imagine. and, remember, i think things worked out really well for her and for democrats. there were three weeks of real nail biting, anxiety. look, biden had to know that this was the right choice and i think that time actually served him and i think it also served democrats because they were able to sort of get their head around the idea he saw polls that showed he didn't have the enthusiasm and then she just was ready. and, you know, what i think is the underreported story is that the last two years she has really become a gifted orator in the -- you know, in a way that

is really obama-level speeches. democrats have not had anyone like that since obama and even though joe biden in my mind has done incredible progressive legislation that many of us on the left could not have dreamed of, he was not a gifted orator. you know, he sort of was able to do it. and when you hear her, she is just a completely transformed politician from even two years ago and i like -- i loved to see it. >> that timing, that three-week delay, is that that has allowed harris now to have cleared the republican convention. >> yeah. >> and to have trump locked in on j.d. vance already, which there are some whispers in the republican camp there are some second thoughts about that. mike, understandably the focus right now is on the vice president, at the same time a man you have known for a very long time, joe biden, is the president of the united states, will be for a number of months and he is addressing the nation tonight. what are your thoughts about what we're going to hear from this evening? >> you know, i think he will be magnificent, actually, and i

think he will frame up his administration and perhaps part of his life poetically. i think parts of the speech will make some people cry. i think other parts of the speech will make people think, you know, again, what a heroic thing he did. it's the only job perhaps in the world that's 24 hours, 365 days a week and it doesn't matter the time. if that phone rings at 4:00 in the morning and joe biden is 81 years of age, he answers the phone and he answers the call and he's answered the call for this country for a long, long time. so jim vandehei, in that context, how do you think people like you, running axios, a big media business, will end up looking at the biden presidency? >> first off, barnicle, you are

so damn lyrical when you talk about things. i love it. you can tell you were a great columnist. i mean, listen, i think there's a reason joe biden was really frustrated in the run up, forget about getting pushed out, even before that, he felt like he never got the credit that he was due. and i think whether you love him or hate him, it's hard to argue that if you go back to when he took office and you would have thought about what could he accomplish, had anyone said, listen, he's going to have the biggest infrastructure bill in history, the biggest climate bill in history, he's going to put the first african american woman on the supreme court, he's going to rally nato to defend ukraine in a war against putin, he's going to navigate the middle east, you say that's a pretty good record, that's more than i think he's going to accomplish, and by the way, he's going to do it in a very divided washington and also start to bring some of the u.s. jobs back that had gone overseas, chip manufacturing, et cetera. so i think, listen, history will judge him many years from now and i think they will look back

and say that was a pretty consequential presidency. right now that's not how the american public view it and i think that's going to be the problem for vice president harris. she's going to own how the public feels about immigration, how it feels about crime, how it feels about inflation, and the trick for her is she somehow has to say i'm different than him and i'm a far superior opponent and alternative to donald trump. but it's very clear what the contours are, right? she's going to say he is too crazy, he's too unpredictable and that he's just too risky of a pick. he's going to say she's weird and she's too liberal and she's too weak. that's essentially the argument we've been having for a couple of years. that's why i go back to anyone who thinks trump is going to run away with it or she's going to run away with it doesn't understand u.s. elections and what's happened in the last two elections in particular where literally 50,000 to 100,000 people decide the election.

that's why we're focused on these micro groups of vote he wishes. young voters who are flocking often to tiktok to do memes about donald trump in a way you wouldn't expect on a young person's platform. >> so co-founder and ceo of axios, jim vandehei, thank you so much for being on this morning and, molly jong-fast, stay with us. coming up, assistant house democratic leader congressman joe neguse among one of the first to endorse kamala harris, he will be ur guest. also three-time emmy award winning actor tony hale will be live in studio to talk about his new netflix show. "morning joe" will be right back. new netflix show "morning joe" will be right back

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live look at seattle for you this morning. in a rare bit of bipartisanship house oversight committee chairman james comer and ranking

member jamie raskin appeared together on fox news last night. at one point chairman comer defended the republican-led efforts to impeach president biden, and congressman raskin gave his own take on the matter. >> mr. chairman, what about can we call an end to the impeachment effort of president biden? has that come officially to an end? >> well, i think the oversight committee did what we were supposed to do, we followed the money, we found tens of millions of dollars, we found lots of llcs that we never could determine what the purpose of those llcs were, we found where the money transferred from our adversaries around the world into different llc bank accounts. we had the bidens in for a deposition and a transcribed interview, they couldn't definitively cite what they did for the money and i think the american people have the truth now. we did what we were supposed to do. my job wasn't to impeach, my job

was to investigate and i investigated and we turned over our findings to speaker johnson's office, he can determine what to do with that. i believe the american people know a lot more about what the bidens have done because of our work. >> i think chairman comer did a magnificent job exonerating joe biden of all the fraudulent charges that were raised against him in this congress and of course there was no high crime, no misdemeanor and joe biden is -- >> i strongly -- >> is a passionate public servant filled with integrity. >> nobody is fwieg what he's selling on that. >> america is buying it. the reservoir of love for joe biden is deep and really bottomless in america. >> joining us now assistant house democratic leader, congressman joe neguse of colorado. wow. i just have to take a moment and think about all that has happened on capitol hill, investigations of joe biden, impeachment efforts, and it's just now it's -- he's passed the torch, facing on republicans,

trump republicans, is vice president kamala harris. you were one of the first to endorse her to be a candidate for president of the united states. so tell us why you think she's got what it takes to prosecute the case against trump. >> sure. well, good morning, mika, thanks for having me on. i will just say that clip you showed of my good friend jamie raskin, once again, displaying his trademark wit and why his leadership is idispensable in the house. it's an exciting time for house democrats in washington, an exciting time for the country. i could not be more grateful to president biden for hess steadfast leadership, i believe he will be remembered in the history books as one of the most consequential presidents in the modern history of our country and i couldn't be more grateful in his selfless and politically courageous decision to pass the torch to a visionary leader in kamala harris who i believe has the judgment, the experience to be the president of the united states and of course there is a level of enthusiasm and energy that we're experiencing now

around her candidacy that honestly the likes of which i don't think we've seen in recent memory. you see that in terms of the outpouring of support, you see that in the rallies and in the empirical evidence suggesting that the polls are now beginning to trend in her direction. so i couldn't be more excited to support the vice president. i've worked with her of course in her capacity as vice president over the course of the last three and a half years, but also before that when she served in the united states senate and i've always found her to be an incredibly thoughtful leader and someone who, as i said, i think has the vision to lead our great country. couldn't be more excited about the road ahead. >> congressman neguse, one of the things that is striking as we all will be watching tonight the president biden's statement is that i think what is not often discussed is how he was able to pretty much unite the party in the last few months. when you and others had entered

the congress, it was the progressives against the moderates and all of that, and when you saw at the end of the deliberations or the thinking through what he wanted to do, president biden having the support of bernie sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez, kind of united the party that now kamala harris has to really expand the base in terms of where democratic voters are because the voices on all sides of the party really came together for joe biden and i think he should be given credit for that, as he handed that baton to kamala harris, who was part of that. >> well, good to see you, reverend. i couldn't agree with you more. i think you articulate it had well. i suspect we will hear the president speak to that this evening during his address. one of the more unique aspects of his presidency was the ability to ultimately forge a

consensus among a variety of different views within the big tent party, the house democratic caucus of course and writ large the democratic party. you think about those landmark legislative achievements which of course he did in partnership with vice president harris, the chips and science act, the largest infrastructure investment since the days of dwight eisenhower, his ability to craft those legislative proposals, to get them across the finish line working with congressional democrats i think will stand the test of time. i think you would have to go back to the great society of the 1960s frankly to find another consequential record or at least a record on the par with his own in terms of domestic policy achievements. so he's got a record to be proud of and of course passing the torch will be a big part of his legacy as well. >> congressman, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu will be addressing a joint session of congress this afternoon. this is obviously a divisive visit, lots of democratic lawmakers have decided to skip the speech. give us your thoughts as to this

moment and also how you anticipate the war in gaza impacting not just the presidential race, but those down ballot. >> well, you know, i, again, would say democrats are a big tent party and we are not a monolith nor have we ever been. there are a rich diverse range of viewpoints on any number of policy issues including geopolitical ones and of course a variety of different views as to the best way to end the conflict in gaza and so at the end of the day members will make the best decision in view of their constituencies and reflective of their districts as to their participation in the joint address today here in washington. what i would say also, there's been a myopic focus, i think, on the joint address, which i understand, but there have been some other developments on capitol hill in the last two days. house republicans as you showed in that clip at the top from chairman comer have once again embraced the chaos that the former president perpetuated during his presidency and they

have been in full meltdown mode over the course of the last 72 hours by virtue of the vice president's announcement and candidacy for president of the united states, they are engaged in any number of political exercises, a few appropriation bills that actually failed just late last night. house republicans are not prepared to govern, house democrats are, and we intend to when we win the majority in november. >> assistant democratic leader, congressman joe neguse of colorado, thank you very much for coming on the show this morning. we appreciate it. >> thank you. all right. take care. coming up on "morning joe" -- >> i have something to say. >> i have literally no idea what you're going to say. >> i'm not leaving, potus is leaving. he's not going to run for a second term. i'm going to run. >> yes. >> did i not see that coming. >> i love the kiss.

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tomorrow on netflix entitled "the decameron." the limited series is inspired by the 14th century collection of short stories by the same title. in it a group of wealthy nobles decide to take refuge from the bubonic plague in the italian countryside, coping with their circumstances by engaging in drunken partying, petty infighting and a penchant for dranl ma. one of the show's co-stars and a former co-star of the hit hbo comedy "veep." tony, we're going to talk about this incredible series that you co-star in, but -- but i've got to -- i've got to ask you about your acting rapport with julia louis-dreyfus. >> yeah. >> we were just showing a little clip. you guys are amazing together.

>> oh, that's so nice. i had a hard time keeping it together on that show. she even told me once she said, tony, you know you are not watching the show you are in the show because i would just break the whole time. >> it's so good. my daughters and i still watch it right now on repeat. over and over again. >> it was so fun. >> so tell us about "the decameron". this looks really fun in a sick way. >> yeah, that's a good way to cut it. kathleen jordan created the show and she wrote it -- it's inspired by "the decameron" the short stories but wrote it during the pandemic as a way to process the fear and uncertainty we were going through. she made this dark comedy, how these people are dealing with high stakes, it's these wealthy nobles that try to escape the plague by going to this villa and obviously chaos ensues. if you think of "downton abbey" i'm like carson, the head of down stairs. >> i see. i see. >> tony, would i be close in my

description of "the decameron" by mimicking what happened to many people in manhattan who went to their place in the hamptons? >> yeah, and they probably thought they were escaping it and i'm sure there was a lot of chaos over there, too. but it was just -- you know, it's -- actually it's similar with "veep" you're dealing with high stakes and just how everybody reacts and behind the scenes they kind of go crazy and some people handle it well, some people don't. >> it's funny because my mom is a -- was a writer -- is a writer and she was -- during the pandemic she said, this is just like "the decameron." she said this is -- this is the modern version. so it's pretty amazing -- >> wow. >> -- to see this and i'm curious, you have -- you are a comic genius. >> oh, that's so nice. >> we were talking about "arrested development." >> it comes from so much pain. so much pain. >> i love "arrested." >> but how depressed are you really? no.

i mean how do you -- how do you relate to these characters? i'm pretty depressed. >> no, let's just say i have had a lot of therapy. >> yes. >> we were talking recently about -- like you look at the other show i did "arrested development" you look at "veep", you look at this there is a co-dependent theme which is around them. there's buster giving a massage with a hook. there's definitely a theme but it's kind of cool, stuff you go through in life how you can use it in the future for somewhat good and art and i do anxiety very well, it's a forte of mine, should we say. >> we're certainly glad "arrested development" is getting some love and "veep" has skyrocketed because of items in the news. >> what's going on? sorry. >> tony, let's look at a clip where your character has to calm down one of the guests staying at the villa where he works. >> are we thinking at midnight tour through the village.

you know you can't see much in the dark. >> done. >> excuse me? >> done with this tiny room for a pitiful, unmarried male. we're going to leonardo. you said he was in a neighboring town getting wine. what town? we are going there now. >> i said he was a town over? oh, gosh, i hope that's true. i said a lot of things. >> what time. >> pratto. >> was it pratto. >> if he is in a secret marriage with a much more beautiful woman i will kill you in my suite and then i will kill myself. >> i assure you he is not married and he knows nothing about his looks. what would be a check in the hurry home column because you are beautiful. >> can we talk about the wig? >> yes, you looked wonderful.

>> thank you. >> in addition to being extraordinaily handsome, talk about the fun obviously you guys were all having. >> we were in rome for about six months, which was like such a gift, but -- >> sounds okay. >> you also like are hoping that you get along with your cast and we all just had such a great time and being around the italians, the italians are very honest people. i had -- i said this on fallon the other night, i had this hard robe designer and i'm wearing this belt and i said can you make this belt tighter? and he was like, no, you have an odd shape. i was like i'm sorry? he said, what, you do. it's odd. >> wow. >> i kind of have an odd shape. >> tony, this looks so good. i love it already. i can't wait to see you. >> fun. >> i have to say we do need to kind of get "arrested development" back into the rotation of what we're watching and my family.

that's an amazing show as well. and it did not get its due. >> that's right. >> it did not get its due. >> yeah, we were kind of always on the bubble but also it was kind of -- it was a dense comedy. people were kind of -- >> yes. >> when it started people weren't used to spending the time to think about it but there were jokes that were so smart like tobias joined the blue man group thinking it was a support group for depressed men. it was very unusual at the time. >> so good. >> so good. so good. you have such range and yet there's a little bit of you in all these characters. >> yeah. >> the limited series "the decameron" premieres on netflix tomorrow. emmy award winning actor tony hale, thank you so much for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me. >> we love having you on "morning joe." take care. coming up, our next guest is taking a closer look at the forces behind extremist movements. the author the new book "black pill: how i witnessed the darkest corners of the internet

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9:45 a.m. here on the east coast. the city of nashville is grappling with a lingering neo-nazi presence within its city limits. according to reporting at the associated press, for weeks neo-nazis have live streamed anti-semitic antics for shock value, waving swast is that flags through crowded streaks, singing hate congress songs on the courthouse steps and briefly disrupting a metro council meeting with jeers. their continued presence has sparked hard questions about why music city is attracting groups amplifying nazi beliefs and what, if anything, can help stop them. the ap goes on to note that

elsewhere in the country white supremacist groups have made similar appearances this year. our next guest has studied hate groups and focuses on their influence on main street politics. joining us now journalist elle reeve her new book "black pill: how i witnessed the darkest corners of the internet come to life, poison society and capture american politics." thank you for being here. we will turn to the book in just a moment but first let's get your reaction to what we're seeing here in nashville. what leads to this and why is this seemingly becoming sadly more common? >> one of the groups that marched down there is call patriot front, its founder was in charlottesville. if you -- look at their outfits, they try to look a lot more patriotic. they realized they were turning off a lot of people with swastikas, neo-nazi aesthetics, that was not going to win over a lot of people so now they've tried to wrap themselves in the

american flag but they know they don't have majority support and that people will counterprotest them. so they do these flash mobs, unannounced provocations, spectacles in these cities so no one will counterprotest them and they can film it. the real audience is not nashville, it's everyone on the internet. >> elle, are they trying to affect these groups that do the flash mob, are they trying to affect the politics in the country or are they trying to just express their kind of anti-semitism, racism and whatever the case may be? you have some people that use the internet to try to sway the public view and then others that are just sort of like venting. how did you find these groups? >> they absolutely want more power and they want to bring in more people. that's why you see a shift in their tactics. nick fuentes who expressed doubt that the holocaust happened, dined with former president trump, he has talked a lot about the great replacement theory coming out in more mainstream

conservative places. what he says is like over the last six years have i gotten closer to the republican party or have they gotten closer to me? and fuentes argues that they've come closer to him. >> you write this book about the internet. they really have gotten some republicans, not all, but some republicans to repeat things that were inconceivable eight years ago. how did this pipeline evolve? >> it started off -- it started off with the psychedelic epiphany of a three food tall in cell named patrick brennan. when neo-nazis enter a space, they freak everyone out and normal people leave and the only idea that bounces around is fascism. so this grew and grew and they felt this real swelling momentum like they had real numbers and

started wanting to move into the real world. i should say frederick is not part of the neo-nazi groups, he just wanted to build the website allowing them to flourish. >> they are fascists, many are anti-semitic, a bunch of what they do and preach is anti-semitic. why are they so drawn to donald trump? >> they like that he doesn't apologize. they like that he offends people and doesn't apologize for that. the former white nationalist mat heimbach told me when trump was elected it was, quote, better than sex for him. it wasn't about trump but that all the people who had made his life difficult, all the people that he hated were so angry and so upset people he hated were so angry, so upset. >> when he said that to you that it's better than sex, were you sitting down? did you want to move away? what was your reaction? >> we were on the phone. i was like, i'm not sure i would admit that if i were a man in my

20s. i just tried to roll with it. >> lastly briefly, is there anything that you see that could be done to stop o'this spread, or is this an irreversible trend? >> i think if you have especially a young male relative who might be going a little bit fascist, engage with them, don't insult his intelligence. you have to keep that conversation going. the biggest problem is being in this bubble and not breaking out of it. >> the important new book titled "black pill. how i witnessed the darkest points of the internet come to life and capture american politics" it's on sale now. coming up here on "morning joe," the transportation department is now investigating delta's flight cancellations and faltering response to the global tech outage. we'll bring you the very latest ahead on "morning joe." 'll brin ahead on "morning joe. >> delta has canceled thousands of flights because of that

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welcome back. a live look at new york city as folks are getting to the airport

this morning. the federal government has launched an investigation into delta airlines as it struggles to get its operation back on track following last friday's global tech outage. nbc news senior correspondent tom costello has the latest. >> reporter: the question delta passengers are asking this morning, is this the day delta's meltdown melts away? >> four days in travel really because of all the delays. >> reporter: today marks day six since friday's massive computer crash that crippled delta's operations worldwide leaving hundreds of thousands of passengers for days and struggling to find or talk to delta's agents. >> delta's going to have to come up with some money for this because this has been quite expensive. >> reporter: the transportation department is demanding answers. >> we've launched an investigation into the situation with delta. >> reporter: the big question, why has it taken delta so long to recover from friday's global

computer crash while other airlines mostly recovered over the weekend? >> are you getting any explanation from delta why it's taking so long to answer phone calls? why people are standing in four, five, six-hour long lines only to find out that their next flight has canceled. any explanation from delta management? >> not any good ones. >> reporter: in a statement, delta says its teams are working tirelessly to care for and make it right for customers impacted by delays and cancellations. on tuesday, delta canceled nearly 500 flights, more than 5,400 since friday morning. the most affected airports, atlanta, delta's home airport and key hubs including detroit, minneapolis, laguardia, washington, reagan, boston, salt lake and jfk. >> we haven't gotten any information, and we've all been wearing the same clothes for two days now. >> reporter: with misplaced luggage piling high at many airports, the challenge now is finding the right bag.

>> i want my luggage now. i want things to go back to normal because i plan on doing some traveling. >> it's sort of like being on gilligan's island going for a short little tour and not being sure when you're going to get off the island. >> nbc's tom costello with that report. let's take a look now at what's making headlines across the country. in florida, the tallahassee democrat has a front page feature on an increasingly popular way some campaigns are reaching out to voters, political committees, and various candidates are using text message blasts to get more voters to the polls and keep them informed. over 15 billion texts were sent in 2022. experts say that number is expected to rise as more campaigns turn to mass texts as a cheap and easy way to raise money. "the atlanta journal-constitution" reports georgia will not provide state funding for ap african american studies courses. the state's school

superintendent declined to approve the course. public schools can still offer the subject but costs like teacher salaries and supplies will not be subsidized by the state. the muskegon chronicle reports that work promotions are harder to come by as the labor market calms and companies attempt to reduce costs. according to new data, only 1.3% of white collar employees were promoted in the first three months of this year. the delays in career growth leave young employees less optimistic about finding new jobs or moving up. and finally, the buffalo news highlights the cdc's latest rules for dogs entering the united states. earlier this year, the agency wanted all dogs entering the country to have a microchip and a rabies vaccination by a usda certified veterinarian. after weeks of complaints from dog owners, the cdc scaled back the rules. starting august 1st, dogs will be allowed to enter the u.s.

only if they are rabies free or are traveling from low risk countries. what about cats? that does it for us this morning, ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. right now on "ana cabrera reports," the president preparing to address the nation. his first remarks since ending his re-election campaign. president biden's message to america and how it could define his legacy. plus, vp harris heading to indiana, her fiery opening volley in the 2024 race and the racist attacks she's facing from republicans. we're also following breaking news on capitol hill, the fbi director in the hot seat this hour one day after the dramatic resignation of the secret service director. and later, israel's prime minister set to deliver an address to congress, a speech happening under heavy security and exposing political disns