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only if they are rabies free or are traveling from low risk countries. what about cats? that does it for us this morning, ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. right now on "ana cabrera reports," the president preparing to address the nation. his first remarks since ending his re-election campaign. president biden's message to america and how it could define his legacy. plus, vp harris heading to indiana, her fiery opening volley in the 2024 race and the racist attacks she's facing from republicans. we're also following breaking news on capitol hill, the fbi director in the hot seat this hour one day after the dramatic resignation of the secret service director. and later, israel's prime minister set to deliver an address to congress, a speech happening under heavy security and exposing political divisions
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on the hill. ♪♪ good morning, thanks for joining us. it is 10:00 eastern, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we begin with the race for the white house. president biden will address the nation this evening. his first public remarks since the decision to end his campaign for re-election and endorse his vice president. this as kamala harris leaves washington this hour for indiana and as we're seeing an emerging strategy from the trump campaign and the gop against their new opponent. nbc's monica alba is joining us from the white house. vaughn hillyard is on the road in north carolina where trump is set to hold a rally later today, and also with us ta lieu or knee pa, white house bureau chief for "the washington post." monica, it's going to be a speech for the history books tonight, what are we learning about it? >> reporter: yeah, this will be an oval office address from president biden, ana, just a week and a half after he gave his last one, which was about
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the assassination attempt on donald trump's life. but tonight this will really be about almost the entirety of joe biden's life in public service. he is really going to be trying to detail in real specifics why he decided to leave the 2024 race when he did. he's going to try to pull back the curtain a little bit, we're told, on his thinking, and then of course why he decided to so quickly endorse his vice president kamala harris to become the democratic nominee they hope, but then he's also going to try to lay out a road map for what he sees as possible accomplishments that are still outstanding in these last six months, and so he's going to try to frame that as there's more work to do. remember that his state of the union address had been finish the job. now he's going to argue that even if he's not going to be finishing that in another term, there's still more to accomplish and more he's going to try to set up for democrats, though we have to acknowledge that a lot of that is really difficult given how close we are to the
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election and given where congress is right now. but we know that there had been some other things floated like potential reforms or proposals he could introduce to the supreme court, for instance, and there are other things in that category that they are now probably going to lean into a little more heavily. but i was also told by somebody that this is really a speech for president biden to acknowledge something he has talked about a lot in the last couple of years, which is that he's a respecter of fate and there will certainly be some introspection in this speech as well. >> talu, what do you think the final months of biden's presidency will look like and whether he'll play a role in the harris campaign. >> he has already said he wants to play a role, he will be doing events and talking about how the biden/harris administration has delivered for the american people. i do expect to see him on the campaign trail. these last six months of his presidency, he's going to have a
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lame duck. he will have the power of the presidency. i expect to see a number of executive orders and him taking actions to do things he hasn't done in the first three and a half years. he's unshackled because he doesn't have to think about political calculations as he makes these decisions but he's going to have less of a spotlight on him. people are going to be turning his focus to his vice president, his number two, and she's going to be for all intents and purposes the leader of the democratic party. it will be a very interesting position that he's in as the head of the country, as the leader of the free world but not the number one person in his party anymore. that's going to be a difficult position for him to navigate over the next six months. >> so much focus will be on the vice president instead, now candidate harris as she embarks on this presidential campaign. she's heading to indiana today, monica. she has just weeks to find a running mate. what do we know about her today? >> yeah, totally compressed time line on that front. she's going to be juggling that while trying to really lay out
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the theory of her case for why she wants to earn and win this nomination. we've seen a bit of a preview of that over the last couple of days when she's given speeches talking about this in the frame of her history, as a prosecutor, as a former attorney general and really taking that to donald trump in that specific way. she's trying to talk about this in a contrast in terms of how she will approach a term in the white house as president. listen to how she put that. >> a future where no child has to grow up in poverty. where every worker has the freedom to join a union will stop donald trump's extreme abortion bans because we trust women to make decisions about their own body and not have their government tell them what to do. >> and as you can really clearly hear there, that was a raucous
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crowd, it was the largest assembled of any now harris campaign, but formerly biden campaign event to date. that tells you about the energy and the enthusiasm here and the harris campaign is touting this morning, they've been able to raise more than $126 million since the president's announcement that he was going to exit the race, and they're also touting really high levels of new voter registrations of volunteers and of people applying to work for the campaign. again, in a sign of a real quick turn for some of those staffers who had experienced a really dour and difficult couple of weeks after the president's poor debate performance. >> yeah, we're hearing that there have been literally tens of thousands of people on calls and wanting to volunteer and wondering how they can get involved, can donate. we're tracking all of that, obviously. we're also trying to keep track of this truncated time line for
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a vice presidential pick should harris become the official nominee. monica, what's the latest ror thing in terms of the thinking and strategy in choosing a running mate? >> and before all of this, democrats were working with this potential august 7th deadline for a virtual roll call to formally nominate the presidential and vice presidential nominees ahead of the convention in chicago on august 19th. now we know that there are some conversations about really trying to get vice president harris's potential running mate locked in and around that same time period. we are told the virtual roll call could start a little earlier in august. it could start sometime around august 1st. so there's some thinking that she really has about two weeks here to go through this entire process. we know that there are already at least five names who have received some vetting materials, a couple of governors who we've discussed including senator mark kelly, governor tim walz, governor gretchen whitmer,
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governor roy cooper, josh shapiro as you see on your screen. some have said they're not necessarily interest instead that job. there are a couple of others under active discussion, like transportation secretary pete buttigieg and kentucky's governor andy beshear who are also in the mix and in this conversation, but i think compared to other years because of these extraordinary events, this will just be done so much faster and so that is a challenge but also in some ways the democrats that i've spoken with think that that will be something they can use to their advantage, again, on the enthusiasm argument because they think they'll try to roll some of this momentum directly into naming a potential running mate here. >> if we can put that graphic with the potential picks back up on the screen, our reporting from yamiche alcindor, according to two sources familiar with the harris campaign thinking is they're focusing on picking a vp running mate who can speak directly to older white voters and suburban women voters, specifically about issues like crime and abortion and the
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economy and really defend harris against voters who may be uncomfortable voting for a black and south asian woman. that's part of the thinking we're learning about. meantime, vaughn, tonight will be former president trump's first rally since the dramatic shift in the democratic ticket, but we are also starting to see an emerging strategy against his new opponent. what are we hearing from the former president? >> right, it was actually on saturday night at his rally in grand rapids, michigan, when he asked the more than 12,000 in the crowd at that rally who they wanted to face, and he essentially had everybody cheer when he said joe biden and cheer when he said kamala harris, and the overwhelming favorite that they wanted to face was joe biden, but within hours come sunday morning, it was made clear that that was not who they were going to get the chance to run against anymore. instead it was going to be kamala harris. so far what you have heard from donald trump are mean-spirited attacks, name calling of kamala harris, that there's no need to repeat here, but he over the
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last 24 hours has refocused some on actual policy and that includes her role overseeing in 2021 based off the administration's request to oversee her coordination with mexico and the northern triangle countries to try to better help stem the flow of immigrants into the united states, but then also who he repeatedly on a call yesterday, a background phone call, he repeatedly suggested that kamala harris should not get away with not being directly tied to joe biden and the biden administration, that she was just as responsible for the policies that came out of that white house for the last three and a half years. and so for kamala harris another strain of this is her 2019 presidential bid when she was competing against joe biden but also more than 20 other democratic candidates at the time, and we've already seen in one campaign ad by dave
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mccormick, the senate candidate in pennsylvania going back and playing some of those old clips of hers, donald trump called her the liberal from san francisco. he and his campaign are going to try to make her out to be less mainstream than joe biden. >> we know that the president -- former president has been attacking kamala harris on the issue of the immigration as vaughn pointed out. i just want to note that border crossings have been going down. the numbers were the lowest we've seen in a month, in the month of june of all of the biden presidency, and they've dropped about 50% since president biden took that executive action in early june. it's not the only issue, though, and the line of attack we're seeing emerge against vp harris. here's what we've been hearing from some other republicans. >> are you suggesting she was a dei hire? >> 100%, she was a dei hire. >> apparently they feel or a lot
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of democrats feel they have to stick with her because of her ethnic background. >> i think she was a dei hire, and i think that that's what we're seeing, and i just don't think that they have anybody else. i think they're in real disarray. >> let's call it what it is, these are racist and sexist attacks, completely discounting her experience, not going after her on policy on record. is harris as their new opponent already bringing out the worst in trump and the republican party, and could it only get worse? >> i do unfortunately think it's going to get much worse. we have already seen this rhetoric and these tropes being bandied about by top republicans. trump went on social media and called her dumb as a rock and has already started to float some of these very under the belt attacks. he's talked about using the wrong pronunciation for her name, i wouldn't be surprised if we see this campaign get very
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dark. despite the fact that, you know, kamala harris has policy issues and as vaughn says her 2019 positions are very clear areas where republicans can attack her, but instead in many cases they're going after her based on her ethnic background, her gender, and really going -- taking this race to a dark place and i expect it to get much worse, especially from the top of the ticket, trump who's known for using nicknames and personal attacks, i wouldn't be surprise ed if he continues to do that. we saw it in 2016 when he was going against hillary clinton. i imagine we'll see a super charged for that, as he faces not only a woman but a woman of color. >> in some ways it's like a brand new campaign. we're just getting first polling since harris became the likely democratic nominee. reuters and morning consult showing a neck in neck race. the reuters ipsos poll is the
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newest, finding harris with a two-point lead. in addition to these polling numbers, we're seeing those big crowds. we're hearing the energy in the room at that rally yesterday with kamala harris, huge fund-raising numbers, tons of volunteers for harris. trump's just been calling this the honeymoon phase trying to sort of write it off, but is that it, or does this momentum have staying power? >> well, i think the first 36 hours or so of this campaign, the first three days actually have been really superlatives. we've had the most amount of money, the fastest path to the nomination, the most number of volunteers. yesterday they had the biggest crowds they've ever had in a democratic campaign. whether or not this has staying power that remains to be seen, but so far kamala harris and her team have really hit their marks. they have kept everyone else out of the race. they've had a seamless campaign
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thus far. they've engendered a lot of enthusiasm within the party. she's going to face attacks. she's going to face attacks on her record. it's not going to be a seamless campaign for the next 104 days. but so far they have been able to exceed expectations and really galvanize a lot of support within the party and the big question will be how she faces that adversity when she does have a tough time or a tough day or face attacks, how she responds to that, i think that's what people will be looking at. the big debate between her and trump is going to be another big moment that people are going to be watching to see how she responds when she's under pressure, and so the campaign so far has been hitting its marks, but this campaign, even though it's going to be truncated is going to be a long period of time where there are going to be lots of ups and downs and whether or not she can respond to those ups and downs is determinative of whether she can galvanize the support she needs. >> trump did say he will debate harris at some point. it's a little unclear whether that september date that had initially been set between biden
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and trump will still hold for the trump/harris debate, if there could be others. that's yet to be determined. thank you all for your reporting. happening right now, fbi director wray testifying before a house committee this hour. what we could hear from him after the secret service director resigned. plus, israel's prime minister set to deliver a speech before congress prompting heavy security and exposing deep political divisions. and a shift in the political winds? the social media memeification of harris, and how her candidacy is playing with gen z. we're back in 90 seconds. ng wit. we're back in 90 seconds ♪ do what you want ♪ ♪ what could go wrong? ♪ ♪ come on, come on, come on ♪ ♪ come on ♪ ♪ do what you want ♪ get into an audi and go your own way.
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right now, a third day of hearings on capitol hill over the attempted assassination of donald trump. fbi director christopher wray is testifying before the house judiciary committee. these are live pictures inside that committee room. this just one day after this woman, secret service director kimberly cheatle resigned under pressure following her earlier testimony this week. nbc's ali vitali is following all of this for us on capitol hill along with nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and former fbi agent fa bee sha cone. what's the latest from that hearing room this morning? >> it's striking that chairman jordan would lead off this hearing, which is really just an
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annual regular check-in with the fbi director and the judiciary committee. jordan sort of framing it in the moment it's happening in, which is to say it comes at a moment where congress has nothing but questions about the ongoing investigation into the attempted assassination in butler, pennsylvania, of former president donald trump. now, what we expect to hear over the course of this hearing is probably going to sound pretty similar, ana, to what we heard earlier this week in front of the oversight committee with then u.s. secret service director kimberly cheatle. of course in the aftermath of that hearing, lawmakers were frustrated. we heard more bipartisan calls for her to resign, and ultimately cheadle did just that. that doesn't mean the pressure goes away. this is going to be a hearing where it's going to be interesting to see the ways in which wray answers and engages with questions and that is different than the way cheatle herself did so with lawmakers
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earlier this week. he response continued to be at that time the shooting had only happened nine days ago so she didn't feel she could get into an ongoing investigation. wray, as someone who has briefed house and senate lawmakers in unclassified fashion over the course of this time, we'll see him and hearing him talk right now. >> let's listen in to his opening statement. >> served the people of texas in this body and on this committee for so long. thank you all for your support of our efforts to protect the american people and uphold the constitution. i am proud to be here today representing the 38,000 special agents, intelligence analysts, and professional staff who make up the fbi, men and women who every day work relentlessly to counter the most complex threat environment i've seen in my tenure as fbi director, maybe in my entire career in law enforcement. before i go any further, i also
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want to acknowledge and offer my deepest condolences to the victims of the horrific assassination attempt in butler county. to the friends and family of corey compertore who protected others from danger, to the other victims two of whom were critically wounded and of course, of course to president trump, former president trump and his family. as i've said from the beginning, the attempted assassination of the former president was an attack on our democracy and our democratic process, and we will not and do not tolerate political violence of any kind, especially a despicable account of this magnitudemagnitude. and i want to assure you and the american people that the men and women of the fbi will continue to work tirelessly to get to the bottom of what happened. we are bringing all the
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resources of the fbi to bear, both criminal and national security. there's a whole lot of work underway and still a lot of work to do in our understanding of what happened and why we'll continue to evolve, but we're going to leave no stone unturned. the shooter may be deceased, but the fbi's investigation is very much ongoing. to that point, i also want to acknowledge that i recognize both the congressional and the public interest in this case and the importance of this investigation to the american people, and i understand there are a lot of open questions. so while the investigation is are very much ongoing and our assessments of the shooter and his actions continue to evolve, my hope here today is to do my best to provide you with all the information i can given where we are at this point.
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i have been saying for some time now that we are living in an elevated threat environment, and tragically the butler county assassination attempt is another example, a particularly heinous and very public one of what i've been talking about, but it also reinforces our need at the fbi and our ongoing commitment to stay focused on the threats, on the mission, and on the people we do the work with and the people we do the work for. every day all across this country and indeed around the world, the men and women of the fbi are doing just that, working around the clock to counter the threats we face. just in the last year, for example, in california, the fbi and our partners targeted an organized crime syndicate responsible for trafficking fentanyl, meth, and cocaine all across north america. we charged the mexican-based suppliers who brought the drugs into the united states, and
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network of canada-based truck drivers who delivered the drugs and the distributors in the united states who spread the poison into our communities. staying on threats emanating from the border, i have warned for some time now about the threat that foreign terrorists may seek to exploit our southwest border or some other port of entry to advance a plot against americans. just last month, for instance, the bureau at our joint terrorism task force worked with i.c.e. in multiple cities across the country as several individuals with suspected international terrorist ties were arrested uing i.c.e.'s immigration authorities. leading up to those arrests, hundreds of fbi employees dedicated countless hours to understand the threat and identify additional individuals of concern. now, the physical security of
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the border is of course not in the fbi's lane, but as the threat has escalated, we're working with our partners in law enforcement and the intelligence community to find and stop foreign terrorists who would harm americans and our interests. as concerning as the known or suspected terrorists encountered at the border are, perhaps even more concerning are those we do not yet know about because they provided fake documents or because we didn't have information connecting them to terrorism at the time they arrived in the united states. staying ahead of today's threats demands that we work together, and for the fbi, that means doubling down on our partnerships, especially with state and local law enforcement. whether it's working through our hundreds of joint terrorism task forces to build out source network, to identify those who slip through the cracks.
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we're targeting the worst of the worst responsible for the violence that still plagues far too many communities. we're taking the fight to the cartels responsible for trafficking the dangerous drugs like fentanyl pouring into our country and claiming countless american lives. staying ahead of the threat also means continuing to disrupt the cybercriminals ravaging businesses large and small, and confronting nation states like china targeting our innovation and our critical infrastructure. at the bureau, we're proud to work side-by-side with our brothers and sisters in federal, state, and local law enforcement, our partners in the intelligence community and others around the world to fulfill our commitment to keep americans safe. now, on friday the fbi will celebrate its 116th anniversary, 116 years of protecting the
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american people and upholding the constitution. 116 years of working with our partners to safeguard the communities we serve. 116 years of innovating to stay ahead of the complex evolving and very real threats out there. i am proud of the legacy that men and women of the fbi have built and all they have accomplished for the american people. so if i may, as we approach this week's anniversary, i would just like to say to all those who are part of the fbi family, from our current employees to our formers and to our partners across law enforcement and the intelligence community, thank you. thank you for dedicating your lives to this country and to its people. it is both humbling and an honor to serve alongside you, and i look forward to the work we're going to continue to do together. and with that, thank you again for having me, and i look forward to our discussion.
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>> thank you, director wray. excuse me, we'll now proceed under the five-minute rule. the gentleman from north carolina is recognized for five month. >> thank you, mr. chairman, director wray i'm way down here. i appreciate the chairman giving me this because i've got to leave. why doesn't the fbi disclose to the american people all of the investigative details and evidence that you are gathering as it is gathered? >> well, we have tried to be transparent with both congress and the american people as we're going along in the investigation. frankly unusually so for an ongoing investigation given the sheer nature of it. we have provided a lot of information. i expect to continue providing information. i expect to be able to provide some additional information here today in response to your questions and your colleagues'. but part of the issue is that as -- like in any investigation, as we proceed facts evolve.
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our understanding of what somebody said turns out to have more context that we didn't have before. we have additional leads out there. so part of our goal is not just to respect the ongoing investigation process but also to make sure that we don't prematurely provide information that then two days later turns out to be different than what we told people. because that's very much, you know, kind of a natural part of any investigation. >> did crooks fire eight shots? >> we have recovered eight cartridges on the roof. >> why was crooks allowed to get off eight shots? >> that i think is something we're still digging into. again, maybe this is a good place for me to make clear the different investigations that are going on. certainly understand the -- >> well and i -- given that i've only got three minutes left, i'm really interested. i appreciate your invitation. you said you're prepared to disclose things as questions are
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asked. i don't want to waste time. i just want to get to the questions that might -- as many members as can ask questions that you'll answer. i'd be glad for you to go on sew little kwi, frankly, and tell us what you know. why was president trump not kept off the stage? >> we don't know the answer to that, but i want to be clear and this is important because i think it goes to questions that i can and cannot answer, our investigation, the fbi's mandate is focused onto shooter and all things related to his attack. now, obviously i understand very much the intense interest and focus on the secret service's performance, actions, decision-making, et cetera. there are two separate after action reviews that the dhs inspector general and the outside independent panel are focused on that. >> our investigation -- >> here's the problem, we're out 13 days and you say we've been
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disclosing. we had the director or the colonel from the pennsylvania state police in front of homeland yesterday. he was quite candid. he disclosed to us that butler emergency services unit personnel were posted into the windows of the second floor of the agr building, that they left there to go pursue the person that they spotted, crooks, that they texted a photo of crooks to the psp representative in the command center. that information was relayed to the united states secret service. they ask that it be texted to somebody else. that was many minutes before president trump took the stand. what we don't know is why were they not keeping him off the stand. and to the extent, you know, i know we always hear when there's a criminal investigation, you've got to wait for that to develop, but do you have any reason to -- do you have any other target of your criminal investigation other than crooks who's dead? >> we are investigating the shooter both to determine his motive and his preparations and activities before the shooting, but also to make sure whether or not there are any
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co-conspirators, accomplices. >> at this point, have you developed any evidence to so suggest that there are any accomplices or cooperators or assisters? >> not at this time, but the investigation is ongoing. >> here's the thing, while we wait maybe for months -- and i hate to say this, i'm not trying to take a pot shot, but the country went for years with the understanding that the hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation was offered bid respected former intel officials and the whole time the fbi had the laptop and let that happen in public until finally offering testimony in the case. to the degree we wait to hear as a country and as a congress, what has happened in this event because the fbi's conducting an investigation, it provides quarter for the u.s. secret service not to perhaps reckon with the problems that are obvious to everyone. i've got 13 more seconds, one more question perhaps. senator grassley says the
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records of the day show that there was a counter unmanned aerial surveillance operator on site. was there and why did that person not prevent crooks from being able to use a drone? >> questions about the secret service's performance are better directed to those other reviews. what i can tell you when it comes to drones is that crooks himself had a drone and i'm prepared to answer questions here today about the shooter and his use of the drone, for example. >> my time's expired. >> gentleman yields back, ranking member is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. as i said in my opening statement, political violence is a scourge and entirely unacceptable no matter the source or the target. last october far right conspiracy theorists broke into nancy pelosi's home and bludgeoned her husband. prominent republicans mocked the attacks and promoted conspiracy theories.
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last august an armed utah man who threatened to kill president biden was killed as fbi agents attempted to serve a warrant on him hours before president biden landed in his state. some on the right claim that the man was simply a, quote, second amendment enthusiast. those on the right have repeatedly called for civil war. with an ohio state senator saying if republicans lose the election, quote, it's going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved. the president of the heritage foundation like wise said that, quote, we are in the process of the second american revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be. close quote. director wray, it's obviously important that we respect first amendment protections but there is clearly a point are where some violent rhetoric crosses into threats of violence or leads to violence. could you describe at how the fbi looks at this relationship between rhetoric and reaction and what you're seeing around the country? >> so i appreciate the question, and this is an issue that i've been talking about for some
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time. in our view there is a right way and a wrong way under the first amendment to express your views no matter how passionate or even angry you are, and violence and threats of violence is not the right way. and we don't care what you're upset about or who you're upset with when from the fbi's perspective, when it turns to violence and threats of violence, that's when we have to draw the line. that's when we get engaged. and there is an alarming phenomenon that we've seen over the last several years of that kind of passion and heated rhetoric turning into actual violence and threats of violence. we've seen it against public officials of all sorts. we've seen it against law enforcement. the number of officers shot and killed in the line of duty in this country is, frankly, outrageous and alarming, and i know that because every time an
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officer is shot and killed anywhere in this country, since the day i started as fbi director, i personally call the chief or the sheriff to express my condolences and to talk to them about the the victim's family and the number of those shootings that are ambush related meaning somebody is targeting law enforcement because they're law enforcement is particularly alarming. i have made around 400 of those phone calls. it's almost every five days that a law enforcement officer is killed in the line of duty, and that is an example of the kind of ways in which passions and heated rhetoric can bubble into violence. >> members of congress, their families and staff have witnessed rising threats against them. i appreciate the work your agency has done to investigate and address these threats but i'm concerned we do not seem to be stemming the tide. what is the fbi doing to ensure that members of congress, their families, and their staffs are
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safe? >> so we have a very close relationship with the capitol police, and we have members of the capitol police, for example, who are on some of our task forces. we share intelligence information about things that we're seeing, trends that we're seeing with capitol police and others in law enforcement. obviously if we have specific information about an effort to target a member of the congress, then we're getting with capitol police in a much more specific way. those are some of the things that we're doing. >> thank you, director, your office is leading the investigation through the attempted assassination of donald trump. republicans in congress including members of this committee have repeatedly called for defunding the fbi. what impact would defunding or even just limiting your funding have on the fbi's ability to conduct this and other investigations. >> so i understand that there are heated views, opinions about us just like there are about every institution in today's america, but cutting our funding
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is incredibly shortsighted and the people it hurts are state and local law enforcement and the american people we're sworn to protect. >> during my remaining time i want to turn to a different matter. republican members of congress have attacked presumptive democratic nominee kamala harris as a, quote, dei candidate, which presumably is code for women and person of color. it's not a new theme for them, and chairman jordan wrote because of dei initiatives, the fbi is no longer hiring the best and brightest candidates to fill the position of special agent. with the remaining time, director wray, can you please answer the follow questions. is it true that hiring women and people of color means that fbi is no longer hiring the best and brightest to serve as law enforcement officers? is there any evidence that women and people of color are less effective in law enforcement roles and what message does it send to prospective applicants? >> witness may respond.
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>> any notion that we have lowered our standards, or hiring standards is not accurate. in fact, our standards are as competitive and selective as ever. we have tens of thousands of people applying and our selection rate is about 3.1%, which is more selective than just about any university in the country, and most of our applicants, something like 50% of them are coming from military or law enforcement backgrounds. about 50% of them also have advanced degrees. the average age is around 31, which means they're bringing a wealth of personal and professional experience when they arrive, and to suggest that those people because of efforts related to diversity or anything like that are less qualified, frankly is not at all consistent with what i see having visited all of our field offices and seen these young people in action, i think is an insult to those hardworking men and women who have signed up to dedicate their lives for this country. >> thank you, director. i yield back. >> gentleman yields back.
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director, let me go back to where mr. bishop was. tell me about the drone. you act like you wanted to fill us in on that. fill us in. >> we have recovered a drone that the shooter appears to have used. it's being exploited and analyzed by the fbi lab. the drone was recovered in his vehicle, so at the time of this shooting, the drone was in his vehicle with the controller. in addition, our investigation has uncovered -- >> do you know what time of day he flew it and if he flew it on the day of the -- >> in addition, it appears that around 3:50 p.m., 4:00 in that window, on the day of the shooting that the shooter was flying the drone around the area -- >> two hours -- >> i want to be clear when ibz i say the area, not over the stage and that part of the area itself, but i would say about 200 yards give or take away from
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that. we think, but we do not know -- this is one of these things that's qualified because of our ongoing review, that he was live streaming, you know, viewing the footage from again about 11 minutes and around the 3:50, 4:00 p.m. range. >> two hours before he's flying a drone in the vicinity. >> about 200 yards away. >> that's important information. what about the bombs that we've heard about in the shooter's car? >> again, the fbi lab is exploiting those explosive devices. there were -- we've recovered three devices. two in his vehicle, and one back in his residence. >> are these what you would call sophisticated operations or i mean -- i don't know, that's what i've been told by people who have some understanding of this area. >> i think it's -- we've seen more sophisticated than less. i would say these are relatively -- keyword relatively crude devices themselves, but
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they did have the ability to be detonated remotely. so to that point, in addition to the two devices that we recovered out of his vehicle, there were receivers for those two explosive devices with the devices, and then on the shooter himself, when he was killed by law enforcement, he had a transmitter with him. now, i do want to add one important point here is that the moment it looks to us -- again, ongoing review, and i can't say that too many times. at the moment, it looks like because of the on/off position on the receivers that if he had tried to detonate those devices from the roof, it would not have worked, but that doesn't mean the explosives weren't dangerous. >> i'm sure we're going to get into all these subjects later as well. tell us what you can about the encrypted platforms we've heard about. >> so one of the things that
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we're drilling into hard with the shooter in an effort to try to learn more about his state of mind, his motive, his ideology, his context, everything else, is to look at all of his device, any social media accounts he had, et cetera. >> right, right. >> and one of the things we've learned in finally getting into his phone, which was also a significant technical challenge from an encryption challenge. it turned out he was using some encrypted messaging applications. >> the same question relative to the bombs, was this pretty sophisticated or this is kind of the norm you see with folks like similar situation? >> yes, on this subject i would say this is unfortunately now become very common place, and it's a real challenge for not just the fbi but state and local law enforcement. >> tell me exactly the scope of -- does the scope of your investigation include what i call that critical five minutes from when the 6:09 when the information you've given to
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congress, 6:09 when the shooter is identified on the roof and 6:14 when president trump is escorted off, all that happens, the shots that take place in between there, do you have access to the communications that were going on at the time in that critical five minutes? >> so our investigation when you say scope, our investigation includes that time frame, although focused, again, onto shooter himself. >> i understand. he's obviously involved in that time frame. >> correct, and as part of that, as part of our focus, our investigation of the shooter and the attack, of course we are interviewing law enforcement from the scene because those are some of the most significant witnesses, and we're obviously getting access to their materials and that kind of thing. >> getting access to -- you have access to the communications that exist there? >> that exact question i don't -- as i sit here at the moment, i don't know the exact answer to that question, but i know that secret service has been cooperative with us. >> congress would like access to those communications as well, not just that five minutes, although i think that's the critical time frame.
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there's lots of communications we'd love to have access to as well. i see my time is up, and they have called votes on the floor. i think there are about six minutes left in votes. committee will stand in recess until approximately ten minutes after votes conclude on the house floor. >> fbi director christopher wray testifying before the house judiciary committee discussing a range of topics but really focusing in there that last questioning on this assassination attempt of donald trump and exactly what happened. i wanted to bring back ken dilanian as well as former fbi agent bobby chacon. give me your reaction to what we've heard from director wray so far. >> you can see the contrast with the now former secret service director kimberly cheatle. christopher wray came to this hearing prepared to answer what questions he could about what the fbi knows about this investigation. he's maing news. he just confirmed what we and others reported based on anonymous sources which is that
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the would be assassin flew a drone two hours before donald trump spoke at that event to essentially conduct aerial surveillance of the event and the site. and he's unable to answer questions about exactly what counter drone capabilities the secret service had on hand, how that was allowed to happen. that's still a mystery. he doesn't have all the answers, particularly about what the secret service did. he is prepared, it looks like, to say what the fbi knows at this moment about the shooter, his motives, what happened. he also revealed that although they found explosive devices in the shooter's car and a detonation device on his person, the fbi has tentatively concluded that those were not working bombs that he would have been able to detonate. it just shows his aspirations for violence that day. and another important thing to point out, ana, is that before wray started speaking, judiciary chairman jim jordan laid out a detailed time line of what he says happened in the minutes before and after the shooting.
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and while this time line has been generally reported based on anonymous sources it's significant that jordan has laid it out publicly here based on what he said were fbi briefings. at 6:09 the shooter was identified on the roof, meaning people saw the man with the gun on the roof. at 6:10 he said the counter sniper team, secret service counter sniper team was notified so a minute later, and then a minute after that, at 6:11 that's when the shooter fired several shots and then one minute later at 6:12 counter sniper team took down the shooter and then two minutes after that, at 6:14 president trump was escorted off the stage by secret service agents. so what does that tell us? it tells us that it seems unlikely, not realistic that the secret service detail had time to take donald trump off the stage in one minute when they got a report of a man with a gun. the counter sniper team had a good minute to take a shot at him before he had a chance to
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shoot. what we know from other reporting is that they simply didn't have a good shot. they didn't have a line of sight. they were struggling to find him, and it wasn't until he shot, obviously, that they zeroed in on him and made what we now know is an extraordinary shot, one counter sniper, one shot took him out and prevented further violence. there seems to have been some missed opportunities there, but at the same time, you know, we've -- there's all this the rog about how they knew there was a man with a range finder. they knew an hour before there was a suspicious person. what this shows us is they only knew there was a man with a gun a minute before the shots were fired. >> bobby, i'm curious to get your thoughts on what we learned from director wray and what else we should be able to hear from him, like what other answers could he provide without compromising their investigation? >> well, first of all, ana, it was really nice to see how transparent he's been. he has confirmed several things in contrast to what we saw earlier this week with the
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secret service director. he confirmed there were eight cartridges found on that roof, which means crooks got eight shots off with his rifle. that's new. the drone is new, although he had the transmitter on him, the receivers in his car were turned in the off position. they weren't operational, but he hadn't activated them so they would be able to receive a signal if he sent it. the sophistication level of these devices, so he's being as transparent as he possibly can. i'm glad he's giving these answers. the congress certainly deserve to hear this stuff. he actually is being as transparent as he can, when he wades into some areas where we don't know yet or this is an interpretation yet to be had, he says that. and so i think that this has been very good so far in providing information certainly that we didn't know or that he's corroborating information that was being reported from anonymous sources. i think the director's doing a great job at providing congress
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the information that it's asking for. >> they've just taken a break for votes, but they'll be back and we'll continue to monitor this hearing. bobby chacon and ken dilanian, got to leave it there for now. thank you so much. in just a few hours, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu set to deliver a high stakes joint address to congress. this speech and visit is quite controversial with a highly contentious political climate there on capitol hill and back in israel where netanyahu is facing mounting pressure to secure a cease fire in gaza and to bring roughly 100 remaining hostages home. dozens of democratic lawmakers plan to boycott this speech, the latest we've learned is speaker emerita nancy pelosi. we also know capitol police have been bracing for large protests. you can see they've added thisp. we also know capitol police have been bracing for large protests. you can see they added this fencing, they added officers as well. let's go to the hill and ryan nobles who is there.
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also with us, former u.s. ambassador to morocco mark ginsburg. ryan, netanyahu's joint address will be delivered to a very fractured congress right now. what are we expecting this afternoon? >> reporter: i think you're right, ana, there is no doubt his appearance here today is divisive, polarizing, there are some members of congress who strongly support netanyahu and the reason behind his invitation here by house speaker mike johnson. but there are many democrats and even some republicans, frankly, who feel that this isn't the right time for him to be here, that his political future in israel is in doubt, and his prosecution of the war is very controversial and shouldn't just be outrightly embraced by the united states government. regardless, it has led to a very chaotic atmosphere here on capitol hill. you're right to point out that security on this campus is at extreme levels. there is fencing up and around the capitol, there are bike
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racks that extend beyond the office buildings, they are limiting who can come in and out of the capitol to only official business so that means tourists will be cut off from the building today, and just members of the public that normally have free access to the capitol will not have that opportunity today. i'm told that in briefings they have warned the staffs of these different members of congress that there could be in excess of 10,000 protesters that could make their way to capitol hill. but i'm also told that's a worst case scenario. and the fact that they have so fortified this campus makes it very unlikely that these protesters would be able to actually get into this building or even get on to the campus in a way that would interrupt the proceedings regardless, it shows how difficult this situation is going to be and how netanyahu is going to have to really try and appeal to both ends of the political spectrum. there are certainly strong supporters of his that believe that israel has a right to prosecute this war in any way
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that they see fit, but there is also a number of members of congress that want to see a cease-fire happen as soon as possible and with it those hostages returning home. so, no doubt that netanyahu is a very tall order ahead of him here in washington, ana. >> and ambassador ginsburg, you're en route to israel. this is the prime minister's first overseas trip since october 7th. there is really no cease-fire deal still, dozens are still being held hostage. how are israelis feeling about netanyahu making this trip to washington? >> well, they consider this visit divorced from reality. divorced from the reality that he still has failed to produce a hostage agreement, divorced from the reality politically where he's not been held accountable for the mistakes he made, much less the corruption charges he's under that this trip has been orchestrated for strictly one
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reason, and that is to give him a political lifeline to be able to argue back to the israelis he remains the indispensable leader because he received an invitation from washington. but i assure you, president biden is far more popular in israel than prime minister netanyahu. and the fact even at this point in time, netanyahu comes in without any plan, any plan whatsoever to share with the american people what is going to happen to the humanitarian crisis in gaza, much less who is going to rule gaza after the hostilities come to an end and how to deal with the consequences of an extended war with hezbollah. he comes empty-handed with -- >> i mean, how difficult of a line is it for netanyahu to walk right now as he addresses this congress with diverging opinions on his handling of the war in gaza and just the political climate in the u.s. right now?
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>> well, he's basically taking the -- probably one of the most pro israel presidents in u.s. history after president biden, put his arm around the israeli people and the american -- and the israeli prime minister, and said the israeli prime minister gives nothing but the back of the hand to president biden, whether it be on israel's turning its back on americans request not to invade rafah, to the use of munitions it is using to target israeli -- palestinians, and to the interference with humanitarian aid and the list goes on and on. so, there is no reason why mr. netanyahu should receive anything but a perfunctory welcome from a president who has been pro israel and then at the same time the enormous outburst of antisemitism in the united states, that is a problem that
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unfortunately he is not going to address. >> ambassador marc ginsberg, thank you for giving us that preview, your thoughts and insights into all of this. ryan nobles appreciate your reporting. that's going to do it for us today, this hour. i'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. you can always catch our show online around the clock on youtube and other platforms. thanks for joining us. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage next. new york jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage next. grit. guts. glory. you've got some winning genes. ♪♪ find out what you're made of with ancestrydna. and for a limited time,
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