where the past and ugliness of the past seems to be swallowing up everything. so i think that aspect of it may be effective. >> yeah. certainly, the energy is there. now, we have a 15-week sprint to the finish. >> buckle up, man. buckle up. >> well said. we really appreciate it. professor at princeton university, eddie glaude jr., thank you. we'll talk on "morning joe." thank you for getting up "way too early" with us on this thursday morning. "morning joe" does start right now. the great thing about america is here, kings and dictators do not rule. the people do. history is in your hands. the power is in your hands. the idea of america lies in your hands. we just have to keep faith, keep the faith, and remember who we are. we're the united states of america. there's simply nothing, nothing beyond our capacity when we do

it together. so let's act together, preserve our democracy. >> president biden addressing the nation for the first time since ending his re-election campaign. in a somber speech, the president talked about uniting the country and putting what's best for our democracy over his desire for a second term. we're going to have more on his historic remarks in just a moment. also ahead, another day on the campaign trail for vice president kamala harris, working to shore up support in her bid for the white house. donald trump was also on the trail yesterday, but he had a much more pessimistic view of the country. we'll have more on that. meanwhile, president biden will hold a high stakes meeting today with benjamin netanyahu following the israeli prime minister's joint address to congress yesterday, which was skipped by dozens of congressional democrats. a lot going on.

good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it is thursday, july 25th. with us, we have the host of "way too early," white house bureau chief at politico, "jonathan lemire. professor at princeton university, eddie glaude jr. correspondent for bbc news, katty kay. managing editor at the bulwark, sam stein is with us. and u.s. editor at "the financial times," ed luce, as well. great group, joe, with a lot of crosscurrents this morning, to say the least. >> a lot of crosscurrents. i will say, the speech last night by the president, i thought there were a couple things that stood out to me. one was the contrast between an autocratic vision of the future and a democratic thought for the future. instead of saying, "i alone can do it," instead of talking about moving all of the power into the

white house, joe biden did something last night that sounds a little radical in 2024 but, actually, it goes all the way back to the founding of america and has its heritage in the founding documents. at the end, as we played, he said, "history is in your hands." >> it is. >> he was like, the power. instead of an autocrat going, you know, i have the power, he said, "the power is in your hands." the idea of america is in your hands. it was beautiful. it was beautiful because it was true. it also was beautiful because it's such a marked contrast between a vision, his vision, and i think most americans' vision of what america should be, and the vision of a rising autocracy, the idea of a

strongman. so that thematically, it was absolutely beautiful. him talking about how he reveres the office of the presidency, but he loves his country more. i thought, though, just two practical matters that really stood out to me. the democrats should be talking about, every day on the campaign trail, a couple of facts. ronald reagan said facts were stubborn things. they really are. you know the stubborn fact i always talk about here when donald trump was running the first time and talking about the illegal invasion, rapists from mexico, et cetera, et cetera, and was going to build a wall because the crisis was so bad, what do i point to? i point to the statistics that even the trump administration had in their documentation. that illegal border crossings from mexico were at a 50 year

low before donald trump came into office. a 50 year low under barack obama and joe biden. >> mm-hmm. >> illegal immigration has shot up. but the president said something last night that, again, democrats should talk about on the campaign trail when illegal immigration comes in. first of all, they can once again talk about how it was donald trump that killed the toughest border security bill drafted by a conservative republican from oklahoma because he thought it'd hurt him politically. but then what else did he say? he said illegal border crossings are lower now than when donald trump left office. that's one. two, that crime, which republicans are talking about, which americans have been talking about a good bit, but now there's such -- there are so many good things happening and things, you know, moving in a great direction. violent crime is at a 50 year

low. let me say it again, democrats. violent crime across the united states is at a 50 year low. that means it is lower now than it was during any point during the trump administration. so, again, we had beautiful themes flowing throughout, but also a couple of points of the successes that he is having right now on bringing inflation down, on bringing crime down, on bringing illegal border crossings down. the last two to a point that are even lower than any point during the trump administration, certainly on violent crime. >> well, and he is choosing to step back from the campaign and end his presidency as an unmitigated success. historically, you can't look at it any other way. you may not agree with his policies, but he got more done than any other president in

modern american history, which is a very solid launching pad for kamala harris. it's not like he is ending a campaign because, you know, the presidency was a disaster or something bad happened or, you know, like other presidencies have ended in the past. this is a good launch pad for kamala harris. the republicans's reaction to it is quite something. we'll get to it. it also may be quite revealing. we'll get to that. but from behind the resolute desk in the oval office, the president spoke about his desire to unite the democratic party and put the country ahead of his own personal ambition. >> it's been the honor of my life to serve as your president. but in the defense of democracy which is at stake, i think it is more important than any title. i draw strength and i find joy in working for the american people. but this sacred task of

perfecting our union, it's not about me. it's about you. your families, your futures. it's about we the people. we can never forget that, and i never have. i've made it clear that i believe america is at an inflection point. one of those rare moments in history when the decisions we make now will determine the fate of our nation and the world for decades to come. i believe my record as president, my leadership in the world, my vision for america's future all married for a second term, but nothing, nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy. that includes personal ambition. so i've decided the best way forward is to pass the torch to a new generation. it's the best way to unite our

nation. you know, there is a time and a place for long years of experience in public life, but there is also a time and a place for new voices, fresh voices. yes, younger voices. that time and place is now. just a few months, the american people will choose the course of america's future. i made my choice. i've made my views known. i'd like to thank our great vice president kamala harris. she's experienced. she's tough. she's capable. she's been an incredible partner to me and a leader for our country. now, the choice is up to you, the american people. i've given my heart and my soul to our nation, like so many others. i've been blessed a million times in return with the love and support of the american people. i hope you have some idea of how grateful i am to all of you.

the great thing about america is here, kings and dictators do not rule. the people do. history is in your hands. the power is in your hands. the idea of america lies in your hands. you just have to keep faith, keep the faith, and remember who we are. we're the united states of america. there's simply nothing, nothing beyond our capacity when we do it together. so let's act together. preserve our democracy. god bless you all. make god protect our troops. thank you. >> you know, ed luce, i was struck by the humility of that speech, in stark contrast, not just to who kamala harris will now be running against, but also other politicians of this age. where they look at donald trump and think, oh, i need to puff my chest out.

i need to talk about myself all the time. i need to talk about how powerful i am. that only i can fix it. i need to insult others. and the words are beautiful. i wrote them down here. they struck me last night, and i loved hearing it. i would love to hear this from any politician, republican, democratic, independent. i hope you have some idea of how grateful i am for you giving me this opportunity. and then he talks about how we aren't a nation of kings or dictators. that the power is in americans' hands. history is in americans' hands. that the idea of america rests in the hands of everyday working americans. that, that is the dream of

america, not some powerful strongman saying, "i alone can fix it." not some powerful strongman saying, "agree with me or i'll try you for treason." but to be humble in service. you know, that sort of servant leadership that jesus talked about. again, to project that out as you're giving what, in effect, is your farewell speech to this campaign and country, i think is a wonderful example for politicians of all parties. >> yes, i agree. and i think, you know, depending on what happens in november, this will -- well, regardless of what happens in november, actually, this will go down in history as one of those moments that you've just described, joe. i do think that kamala harris victory would help cement this moment as an incredible moment in history.

i was fascinated not just by his contrast with the unspoken, the unmentioned donald trump, which is as wide as the grand canyon in terms of their self-sacrifice involved here, but i was also fascinated by the hints that he's aware he's got six months left as president. we could have an extremely interesting sort of dual role between kamala harris as the potential next president and a reinvigorated, in some ways liberated joe biden, who no longer needs to campaign, who has got an eighth of his presidency left. that's quite a long time. >> yeah. >> in which he can do things. he mentioned one of those in the address, and that is reform the supreme court. an incredibly important measure to secure the future of american -- of the american constitution and the republic. and so i sort of noticed a

little bit of steel there, too, as well as nostalgia for an extraordinary, extraordinary, storied career of service in american politics. >> katty kay, your thoughts on president biden's speech? also, potentially how it is being heard around the world, given all the work he's done expanding and solidifying nato and trying to solidify our partnerships after some would claim they were perhaps loosened a bit in the presidency before him. i wonder how they are looking at this today. >> i mean, there's been a massive amount of attention on what's been happening in the united states over the last couple weeks from american's allies here in europe. you know, some trepidation about the november election and what might happen and what that could mean for america's allies around

the world, but also kind of a sense of excitement that this race has radically changed and there is now the possibility of a president being elected who is more committed to nato, to ukraine, to multilateral alliances than donald trump is. people were watching what joe biden was saying from the oval office last night. i think joe is right. there is a kind of -- there was a soaring quality in defense of democracy and this is about the american people. you heard it in kamala harris' comments. it is a people process, not autocracy. compare it to donald trump saying america is a stupid country, which is not reagonian on him, i don't know if the word exists. there is a contrast out of the harris campaign and joe biden looking to the future and democracy, talking about those issues, and donald trump, as he said yesterday, they asked me to be good. well, that is over.

going back to the american carnage message he had before. yesterday was a day of distinctions and contrasts between the two campaigns. >> i just don't understand. i don't understand what it gets somebody, trashing america. i've never understand this, america is a stupid country. america is -- um, you know, ed luce, i want to go back to you. i've got to get reporting from jonathan lemire and sam stein and certainly, boy, want to hear eddie and his take, but i was -- after the show yesterday, i was having breakfast with a top executive. i've known him for a very long time. we were just sitting there catching up. and i asked him, i said, what is -- because i was asking about the economy. i was asking, i said, what do i

need to be looking at as we're moving forward? he goes, joe, you need to be looking at -- you need to not listen to what the pog ti polit are saying. you need to listen to what our allies and adversaries are saying and what they're thinking about america outside of washington. he said, if you went -- and it actually sounds a lot like what joe biden said. he said, if you'd told me 20 years ago that we were going to be in such a strong position over china, that we were going to be lapping china economically, that we were going to be lapping china politically, that we were going to be lapping china on a.i., that we were going to be lapping china on everything, that they were going to be in the middle of the demographic crisis, if you'd told me ten years ago america was going to be in the strongest position it's ever been economically, militarily, culturally, socially, i would

have said you were crazy. he said even five years ago, since covid, he said, america has gone like this, and the rest of the world seems to be going like this. he said, we're not only, you know, the envy of our enemies. we're the envy of our allies. he said, that's what you need to look at. just how strong america is right now. and this, by the way, this guy is not political. he was just talking about how he was seeing the world investing and running his corporation over the next five, ten years. he said, we're just in a position nobody would have dreamed we would have been in getting out of covid. >> yeah, and i think that's right. and president biden alluded to that last night. america has had the strongest

rebound from the pandemic. the biden administration really put its shoulder to the wheel, and we see that in the numbers. far higher growth, far lower unemployment than other developed countries. inflation is now back under control. in fact, you know, i don't know whether you discussed this with your friend over breakfast, but the fed would be in a good position now next week to start cutting interest rates and again in september, which i guarantee you will send donald trump insane. because he will allege bias on the fed's part, but it'll be objectively a good thing to do and very helpful in helping persuade americans exactly what your chief executive was telling you about. because there's a weird vibe session going on in this country, where people are not really acknowledging what you've just laid out, and which are objective facts. i think that's partly to do with

the sort of prism of the media we consume. >> yeah. >> if you keep getting told you're badly off, then you start to believe it. but the fed could help people to believe it, and they're pretty much on the cusp of being able to do so now. >> mm-hmm. >> and it is so strange, the disconnect between -- and a lot of it is disinformation. a lot of it is disinformation online. >> yup. >> a lot of it is disinformation coming from other networks. a lot of it is disinformation, disinformation from politicians who want to tell you how badly things are when america's economy is stronger today just by data. this is not opinion. this is fact. look at the data. we are stronger economically. we are stronger militarily. we are stronger culturally. violent crime, violent crime again at a 50-year low right now. vast improvements there.

inflation going down faster than it is across other industrialized, western industrialized nations. jobs numbers, the best in 30 years. the dollar stronger than it's been in 40 years. i could go on and on. these are just the facts. and this is why the world is still looking to the united states and why we're still the envy of the world. it's just some of our own politicians and some news people who want to whip you into a frenzy every day and beat down america. talk about how badly america is. you know, we're all -- i mean, i was so horrified by the imagery of the american flags burning. i think it reveals a hell of a lot about the people who did it and who is backing them. it's horrifying to me.

at the same time, you have people who are trashing america every day. and how is that not playing into the russian's hands? how is that not playing into the communist chinese hands? how is that not playing into iran's hands? by constantly trashing america and saying america is a stupid country. that's straight from the mouth of vladimir putin. >> yeah. >> that's straight from the mouth of president xi. that's what they want you to believe. we're not a stupid country. we are a great country. america is great because, as the president said last night, because our people are good. we're working harder than ever, and we're doing better than ever before. don't believe their lies. america is great. now, we'll be right back. we'll have reporters round up -- mika, after the break, we'll

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jonathan lemire, ed luce said earlier this was one of the historic speeches we'd be talking about for a very long time, that historians will be writing about. we look back and see what lbj said in march of 1968. this is one of those speeches, as well. but i've got to say, thematically, just beautiful. again, the sort of speech i'd love to hear from a democratic president, a republican president, an independent president, talking about the power of america being in the hands of americans. >> yeah, a powerful speech and a powerful moment in history. the speech, per reporting, came together. mike donilon, one of the president's longest serving aides, the main author. our friend jon meacham, presidential historian, contributed, as well. president biden got to this moment reluctantly. he still believes he could run and win. he said his ideas and record warrant a second term, but he is bowing to reality.

in a very selfless act, a selfless act, one we shouldn't overlook, relinquishing power. saying it is time to bring the party together. the stakes are too high, the threat too grave to risk it if people don't believe i can still do it. he hands the torch now, and he said it, to a younger generation and vice president harris. we have seen what has been a blockbuster rollout of her candidacy in recent days. but, sam stein, this president not quite done yet. as ed mentioned, supreme court reform on the agenda, perhaps a code of ethics, perhaps more. we shall get details on that in the coming days. the president also mentioned trying to revise the cancer moonshot. he's got a major meeting today with prime minister benjamin netanyahu of israel, trying to get a cease-fire deal done. u.s. officials say it's close but there's still stubborn hurdles to clear. give us your thoughts about what this means for this president, both in the present but also what it means for his legacy.

>> yeah. well, like ed said, one of the things that will determine all of this is if kamala harris can win, right? his legacy is going to be directly tied to that. i was struck, like all of you, by the somberness of the speech. i went back and looked at -- well, the other thing i was struck by is donald trump, frankly. people made this observation, but donald trump, one of his last speaking in the white house was january 6th, talking about his refusal to relinquish power. he talked about his belief that he had been robbed, cheated of his presidency, and he was holding on to power. here was joe biden, not 3 1/2 years later, saying, "i will give up power willingly," and explaining why. i thought the contrast was just extremely profound, and it got me thinking about what it means to be strong, right? strong can be interpreted in a

different way for different people. some people view strength as a projection of power, but i think strong is willingly stepping aside, knowing that you can't win and saying, "i'm going to sacrifice my ambition for something larger. and that's what biden decided to do. it needs to be said, he doesn't believe this criticism, but the other contrast is with kamala harris. i thought biden did look frail last night. i thought biden did look old, and he is old. as you've seen kamala harris on the trail the past two days, you can just see that contrast and how profound it is and what it means to democratic voters who have responded with this incredible enthusiasm in terms of outpouring and support. it was a historic moment, seeing the presidency at a crossroads.

like you, jonathan, i am curious what he does the next six months. i don't think the agenda items are practical, but he can use that office to really shine a light on things he probably couldn't have done had he been a candidate for office. >> yeah. eddie, i'm struck, just so struck by the contrast between what donald trump had said, what he's told americans about the state of america, and where america really is. again, i'm not -- we're out of the opinion range right here. i'm just talking about facts. remember when he ran, he said the american dream was dead. just a lie. the american dream is not dead. the american dream is growing. then he talked about american carnage. remember, american carnage during his inauguration. when he was saying that, let me repeat it again because the lie has been told so often that i need to keep repeating the truth. that when donald trump was

inaugurated and talked about american carnage and people pouring over our borders more than ever before and more violent -- violent crime was at a 50 year low. crime was at a 50 year low when he became president. when he became president, when he took the reins from barack obama and joe biden, illegal border crossings were at a 50 year low. yet, he was talking about american carnage and how things were horrible and only he could fix it. now, he's saying america is a stupid country again. america is a stupid country because we're letting all of these people pour in, and this is the worst. no, it's been bad. it has been bad. it was bad during donald trump's term. it got worse during the first part of joe biden's term. right now, again, you look at the trend lines, and illegal border crossings are lower right now than they were when donald trump left office. >> you know -- >> again, the contrast between

what he says and what is true is striking. the most striking thing, though, is he thinks he can get votes, and he obviously can, by tearing down america, by saying we are a horrible country, by saying we're a stupid country, by attacking us the same way vladimir putin or president xi attacks us. by bringing us down. where you heard joe biden last night lifting us up. this campaign should be about that, about the greatness of america. >> right, joe. i think donald trump understands the medial ecosystem in which those statements are going to land. he is going to make this claim that america is stupid because of them. because of those policies. your life isn't what it should be because of them. because there's these policies. it's a way of exploiting

grievance. it's exploiting a sense that people can barely keep their noses above water. when you contrast that to what we heard last night, no matter what your position may be vis-a-vis joe biden's policy on gaza, his policy with regards to student loan debt, what we saw was magnanimity. what we saw was a quiet statesmanship. he asked us this question, do we still believe in honesty, decency, respect, justice, and democracy? that question goes directly to what donald trump represents, what he poses as a threat. then, joe, for me, it was this really interesting moment because he knows that the country is really on the precipice, as it were, in terms of our divisions, he reaches for lincoln. he reads the declaration of independence into the constitution. that's lincoln's move. a government of the people, by the people, for the people,

right, that move is so fundamentally tied to our sense of every human being is equal before god, right? when we begin to think about that, we know that joe biden was reaching for the best of who we are as he's calling us to take responsibility for this country, for democracy itself. the contrast could not be starker, joe. >> yeah, no doubt about it. >> all right. still ahead on "morning joe," israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed a joint session of congress yesterday. we'll show you some of what he had to say about the war in gaza and the pro-palestinian protesters here in the u.s. plus, we'll get a reaction from a pair of lawmakers on opposite sides of the aisle who attended those remarks. "morning joe" will be right back.

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gaza, calling it a battle for the survival of the jewish state. he denounced the criticism he's received, both here in the u.s. and internationally, specifically calling out pro-palestinian protesters. >> we meet today at a crossroads of history. our world is in upheaval. in the middle east, iran's axis of terror confronts america, israel, and our arab friends. this is not a clash of civilizations. it is a clash between barbarism and civilization. [ applause ] for the forces of civilization to triumph, america and israel must stand together. [ applause ] >> because when we stand together, something very simple

happens. we win. they lose! many anti-israel protesters, many choose to stand with evil. they stand with hamas. they stand with rapists and murderers. they refuse to make the simple distinction between those who target terrorists and those who target civilians. between the democratic state of israel and the terrorist thugs of hamas. for all we know, iran is funding the anti-israel protests that are going on right now outside this building. not that many, but they're there, and throughout the city. well, i have a message for these protesters. when the tyrants of tehran who hang gays from cranes and murder women for not covering their hair are praising promoting and funding you, you have officially become iran's useful idiots! [ applause ] >> they are iran's useful idiot. they are hamas' useful idiot.

they're terrorism's useful idiot. we're going to talk more about netanyahu's speech in a moment. but first, i was talking about how republicans tear down the united states of america, how donald trump calls america a stupid country. he talks about american carnage, constantly trashing the united states of america. and we see the american flag yesterday being burned. you know, some of us are kind of old fashioned about the american flag. we don't like seeing it burned. we sure as hell don't like seeing people stand by while it's taken down and replaced by a palestinian flag. we don't like seeing when, in the '70s, when the american flag was used as a weapon to attack

black students when they were trying to integrate boston schools. we sure as hell don't like seeing the american flag used as a weapon on january 6th to attack police officers. of course, there's video of people bragging about how they make their american flag a weapon leading up to the riots. just the idea of what we saw on college campuses last year, and a lot of people were upset when i said, oh, this was just college students just wandering out of their classes and deciding one day they're going to protest against israel? it's so naive. when you look at the people that funded those protests and funded the protests probably yesterday, and you look at the statements they made celebrating the slaughter, the rapes, the killings, the burnings on

october the 7th, tells you all you need to know. we have useful idiots for russia every day. useful idiots for russia every day doing vladimir putin's bidding. we also, as benjamin netanyahu said, we have useful idiots for the amollas in iran. we can't let them burn american flags in the shadow of the u.s. capitol. just like the american flag can't be used as a weapon. as it was on january the 6th. couple democrats expressing their anger. congressman dean phillips posted this, "i never imagined seeing the flag of a terror group holding eight americans hostage for 292 days waved in the streets of our nation's

capitol." that alongside the image of a protester with the flag. jake auchincloss saying, "the je hate and anti-american garbage coming out of college campuses this spring didn't end with the last day of school. college presidents, you are on notice. you are on notice. enforce your codes of conduct from day one of the fall semester." let our students go back to class. this is me now, and actually learn. republican governor larry hogan, who is running for the senate, says, "this is an insult to every american who has worn the flag on their arm and died for our nation. it is disgusting and disgraceful." and it is. let's bring in the president emeritus of the committee of

foreign relations. we heard a peace deal may be near, a cease-fire. peace deal may be near. what was interesting yesterday, the prime minister spoke little of hostages. hostage families were very upset that he seems to be ignoring their pleas to bring the hostages home. talk about the speech. talk about what you expect today when benjamin netanyahu meets with president biden and if we may be close to a cease-fire or a peace deal that will bring those hostages home. >> lots of things to say, joe. good morning. look, there was some good lines in the speech. the one you played at the beginning, it is not a clash between civilizations but between barbarism and civilization. i thought it was a powerful line. i also like when the prime minister had several israeli soldiers stand up. you saw one was from ethiopia, one was a muslim. it showed the diversity in israel's society, speaking to

the claim of the middle east. it was clever, powerful, and had the advantage of being true and what it showed about israel's diversity. some of it was, shall we say, a bit cynical, all the emphasis on the hostages, even though bibi netanyahu has not made the return of hostages a priority. i think he painted with a very broad brush all the protesters. yes, many are doing exactly what you and he rightly criticize them for, but you can be critical of how israel has used military force. you can be critical of what israel has not put forward in the way of political initiatives and not be pro-hamas. you can simply question whether what israel is doing is in its own long-term self-interest. the biggest problem with the speech, joe, is what it wasn't. you didn't really have a plan at all put forward for gaza. he talked about demilitarization and deradicalization. never mentioned the palestinian authority.

never mentioned how you'd get the saudis and others to provide troops and money for gaza. no mention of the west bank. no mention of the palestinian state. so still missing pretty much is what you'd call the political dimension, the necessary political dimension of what has been and remains a largely military strategy. i don't think the prime minister changed the conversation. you may get some type of a temporary cease-fire at some point, but i don't think, even if you do, it's going to change the fundamentals. it's not going to give you the basis of long-term governance in gaza. it's not going to give you the basis of putting together some type of relationship between israelis and palestinians. >> yeah, certainly in the response in the hall there, deeply partisan. netanyahu welcomed warmly by republicans. far less so from democrats. very little talk, as richard said, of the day after. katty, i've got new reporting this morning. president biden meeting, of course, the prime minister this

afternoon. the vice president will have her own meeting with him a little later in the day. i am told by officials that president biden is going to take a tougher tone, really urge netanyahu to take this deal, get it done. u.s. officials believe it is close but they acknowledge not there yet. stubborn hurdles. there will be another round of negotiations sometime next week. biden pushing netanyahu here is an important piece. but there is cynicism. i want to hear what you think. in the biden administration, whether netanyahu wants the deal and whether he is playing it out until november. he may have tipped his hand. after washington, he goes to mar-a-lago tomorrow to meet with donald trump. >> how many times have we heard, john, that we're almost to the point of some kind of deal? how many times have u.s. officials, tony blinken, bill burns, flown out to the middle east to meet with the qatar rees, egyptians, and now the hostage families don't hope

there will be a deal because the hopes have been dashed before. i think to richard's point about there not being a plan, that gets to benjamin netanyahu's priorities. is it spinning this out as long as possible because he knows the collapse of his government can come when he doesn't have this card to play? richard, interesting, there was almost nothing about a plan, almost nothing about the hostages at the moment. my understanding is there is no sympathy really in israel at the moment, even from the left, for any talk about a two-state solution. that's gone. the bottom has fallen out of that. so where does that leave benjamin netanyahu? where does it leave the israeli political process as they try to come up with something if there is so little support in the israeli population, even from the left, with a deal with the palestinians? >> honestly, there isn't much of a left left in israel, to be blunt. i don't think it makes sense to be talking a lot about two-state

solutions. that's way, way, way down the road. the goal is to keep open the possibility. that's why the president, among other things, should be talking about the importance of israelis stopping settlements. why? settlements take territory. that makes the chances of reaching a two-state solution or any solution even more remote. again, two-state solution is not the issue for today or even tomorrow. but there's got to be a palestinian entity, a state. we can talk about the condition, territoies to be negotiated. what we need to do is keep open that possibility on the west bank. in gaza, you still need a plan for governance. he talked again about demilitarization. he talked about an alliance with arab states. guess what? the saudis and other arab states are not going to want to spend money rebuilding gaza unless the war is over. they're not going to want to send troops in there unless they're confident you have a political framework that has a chance of succeeding.

again, you can't marginalize hamas just with military force. that's part of the answer, but you've got to give palestinians a reason to support other. whether it's a palestinian authority, what have you, and that's still not forthcoming. i think the reason is the prime minister's coalition comes apart on that. that's still the dilemma that bibi netanyahu faces. yesterday didn't help him manage that dilemma. there's a fundamental tension between what he needs to do to make progress on the ground and what he needs to do to keep his government in power. >> yeah. i'm struck, like richard is, at the politics of this. to me, one of the key audiences for him was -- bibi, that is -- was domestic, right? he has this tenuous position, and it's pretty clear that once this war ends, he's going to face an existential political threat. but the other political context, and, ed, i'm curious your thoughts, is israel on the international stage.

this was bibi's fourth speech to congress, which underscores how long he's been around. i remember the 2015 one when he came here to talk about the iran nuclear deal. in that situation, very controversial speech, congress was still filled with almost all of the lawmakers from both parties. yesterday, about half of the democrats decided not to show up. netanyahu is a bit of a pariah, not just here but internationally. contextualize the speech on how israel is received internationally and what netanyahu's prosecution of the war has done to israel's image around the globe. >> that's a great question, sam. i mean, yesterday was a tale of two speeches, two very contrasting speeches. one was a president here, president biden voluntaily relinquishing power. the other, netanyahu, breaking

point of foreign leaders' addresses to congress, overtaking winston churchill, fourth time. also, to use any tools at the disposal, including prolonging the war, stymieing deals to release the hostages, breaking his word to biden again and again and again, in order for him personally to cling onto power. that is known very well not just around the world but in israel, in particular. somebody remarked yesterday the kind of speech he gave and reception he got from the republican side of the chamber yesterday would have been impossible for netanyahu to arrange within israel. he is so unpopular. he is such a toxic brand. i think the world will lock on, i'm afraid to say, quite cynically on this. they're aware, also, and i think both katty and richard mentioned

this, netanyahu is going to mar-a-lago. some call him the prime minister of israel. others may call him the republican senator from jerusalem. he has a stake in the american election, and it is not on kamala harris's side. it is donald trump's side. in 2014, he was overtly going against obama. i think the world sees all this. the world is, you know, gripped by the american political season. it is disturbed by what's happening in gaza. it sees the link between the two in the form of this one man, netanyahu. >> i don't disagree. still ahead, our next guest says president biden's painful oval office farewell address is a reminder of how quickly the 2024 campaign has already moved on. susan glasser will explain for her new piece for "the new yorker." plus, we'll talk to the head of the naacp about the prospect of the first black female president in u.s. history.

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second of the night. >> high fly ball, deep left field, way back. take a good look. you won't see it for long. how about a grand slam for doyle? >> somewhere, men are laughing. somewhere, children shout. but there is no joy in mudville, mighty k.c. has struck out. mike barnicle, what if we had a pennant race and nobody wanted to win? what if the red sox were the -- went from being the hottest team in baseball before the all-star break to being 1-5 after the all-star break and still managing not to lose any games on the orioles or the yankees? i mean, the yankees are in just

a mystifying collapse. the orioles the same. you know, we're so focused on the red sox and the yankees that we don't talk about the orioles' woes. but, boy, they went from being one of the hottest teams in baseball to struggling. the yankees, my god, just stupefyingly bad right now, how much they've collapsed. the sox have had a bad road trip on the west coast simply because they couldn't hold leads. good news there at least is they did the most important thing they could have done this past week. they signed alex cora to a three-year deal. >> that's right, joe. that's why there is joy in mudville today, because alex cora is going to be with the red sox for three more years, about $7 million a year. good for alex cora. he is the face of the boston red sox. look, what's happening to the orioles, the yankees, and the red sox, baseball is like life. it's every day, it's a long slog.

>> yes, it is. >> hopefully most of us are successful and happy at the end of each day, but baseball is different. you get up and do it again tomorrow. these are little mid season wrinkles that will work out, i'm confident, for two of the three teams. the yankees, i'm not so sure. the yankees, their roster, i think, is not what they thought it was just a month ago. gerrit cole, their ace, one of the best pitchers in baseball, he was cuffed around by the new york mets in the city series. mets and yankees. i was shocked at what happened to the yankees yesterday. >> cole hasn't been the same since coming back from injury. good news for alex cora, the face of the franchise. the young team is playing hard for him. great to see he'll say. they gave up 20 runs to the colorado rockies to celebrate and utter will i getting blown out. richard haass, your yankees not playing much better.

the lineup is top heavy. solo and judge and not much else. pitching had been good but it is falling off of late. boone deeply frustrated. they were swept by the mets for the first time since, i think, 1997. now, we have two teams, both collapsing. yankees and red sox, guess what? they play each other this weekend at fenway. somebody's got to win. >> yeah. >> it's almost enough to make me want to talk more about the middle east. this is painful. the yankees are the second best team in new york. that is not where i thought we would be when the season began. pitching, i mean, when your ace gets homered and hammered, it was a bad -- it's a bad sign. i think we can also segue to talking about the open, joe. we never had a proper conversation about xander schauffele. since there are 162 games in the baseball season, i think we can basically be patient and return to it another morning, rather

than dwelling on it. >> no, no, no. i think we need to talk about the yankees. mike is right. >> let's stay there. >> look at the orioles, the red sox. these are young teams with a bright future. the yankees, this seems to be a structural problem. this seems to be a house not built on rock but built on sand, richard haass. what say you? [ laughter ] >> i like -- one of the many things i like being on this show is the balance. there is no leading questions when it comes to baseball. the neutrality of you and barnicle and lemire. where is willie when i need him? >> yeah. >> it's good to see you all, really. i enjoy this and appreciate it to a degree i can't quite, you know, verbalize. almost as much as -- >> i will tell you where relief will come for you, richard haass. from the very bored mika

brzezinski. >> yeah, i'm not bored. >> who is ready to move beyond baseball. mika? >> i mean, jonathan lemire, let's get your facts right, okay? come on. you're a reporter, right? the yankees were swept by the mets back in 2013. that's the second time. >> wow. >> there ya go. >> oh! >> see, i should have deferred to the expert on all things baseball and gone to mika to check that. >> yeah. let's just go back to politics. let's go doing what we do now. obviously, we need to. back to president biden's historic and heartfelt address to the nation last night. his first public remarks since deciding to exit the 2024 presidential race. >> my fellow americans, it's been the privilege of my life to serve this nation for over 50 years. nowhere else on earth could a kid with a stutter from modest beginnings in scranton, pennsylvania, one day sit behind the resolute desk in the oval

office as president of the united states, but here i am. that's what's so special about america. it's been the honor of my life to serve as your president. but in the defense of democracy, which is at stake, i think it is more important than any title. i draw strength and i find joy in working for the american people, but this sacred task of perfecting our union, it's not about me, it's about you, your families, your futures. it's about we the people. we can never forget that. and i never have. i've made it clear that i believe america is at an inflection point. one of those rare moments in history where the decisions we make now will determine the fate of our nation and the world for decades to come. i believe my record as president, my leadership in the

world, my vision for america's future, all merit a second term. but nothing, nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy. that includes personal ambition. so i've decided the best way forward is to pass the torch to a new generation. it's the best way to unite our nation. i know there is a time and a place for long years of experience in public life, but there's also a time and a place for new voices, fresh voices, yes, younger voices. and that time and place is now. in the next six months, i'll be focused on doing my job as president. that means i'll continue to lower costs for hard working families, grow our economy. i'll keep defending our personal freedoms and our civil rights, from the right to vote to the right to choose. i'll keep calling out hate and

extremism. make it clear there is no place, no place in america for political violence or any violence ever, period. i'm going to keep speaking out to protect our kids from gun violence, our planet from climate crisis as an existential threat. and i will keep fighting for my cancer moonshot so we can end cancer as we know it because we can do it. i'm going to call for supreme court reform because this is critical to our democracy, supreme court reform. you know, i will keep working to ensure america remains strong and secure and the leader of the free world. >> and the president just posted moments ago, "i draw strength and find joy in working for the american people. but this sacred task of perfecting our union is not about me. it's about you. it's about we the people.

we can never forget that. and i never have." mike barnicle, take us inside the human side of this speech as the president really gave anyone watching last night a sense that it's up to you, america. i've set out the vision for democracy to survive, and now it is time to pass the baton. >> mika, nowhere else on earth could a kid with a stutter from scranton, pennsylvania, and clay claymont, delaware, from modest beginnings, sit behind the resolute desk as president of the united states. and, yet, here i am. that was joseph r. biden last night, the president of the united states. there was no bitterness. no resentment. no self-pity in his voice or in

his presentation. his family sat to the left of the resolute desk. his wife, his children, as he gave that address. as he walked into history. in history these days, it doesn't move like a clock. it moves like a stop watch. it is so fast. the speed of history is frightening sometimes. and he is now part of history. always will be. he spoke to his family right there. but part of it, seemed to me, that he was speaking to the american family, as well. he asked the question during the course of his speech, does character in public life still matter? well, i would submit that it does, and i would submit that, last night, you saw a portrait of character in the president of the united states. and going forward, i think his place in history is well sealed by his presidency, by the

accomplishments of his presidency, by his withdrawal from the presidency. you can only imagine how difficult it is for anyone to give up such power. we can't really imagine it because we have never held power in our hands the way a president of the united states does. we've seen what happens when the president misuses power. we've seen what happens when the sitting president refuses to cede power. now, america has been given an object lesson in power and history by a man, here i am, joe biden, behind the resolute desk, ceding power. >> and that is strength, by the way, to those who misunderstand what that word means. let's bring in staff writer at "the new yorker," susan glasser, who is writing about biden's farewell, as well as kamala harris's entrance into the race, her moment, really. she is now, by far, the younger

candidate, that is for sure, lined up against trump. donald trump, susan, stepped up his attacks against kamala harris yesterday. we'll show some of that in just a bit, but your thoughts on the piece you've written about this incredible moment in history? >> yeah, i know. what a breathtaking week. you know, the problem is that history moves so quickly, it is hard to remember that it was only a week ago with the republican convention, in the shadow of trump's assassination attempt. you know, i talked to somebody the other day who said, enough with the unprecedented. how about a little bit of precedented now? but, you know, president biden's speech, i think, showed the extent to which donald trump still hangs over our politics, right? in many ways, biden became president in 2020 because he was the democratic candidate who most clearly articulated the threat from donald trump. and now, the reason that his own party essentially pushed him

aside was because they no longer believed that he was the one who could beat donald trump. again, the trump factor. but i noted that in a rally right before biden's address last night, donald trump was back to his sharp attacking ways, practically laughing at the people who claimed last week without any real basis that he was going to be reformed and a kindler, gentler version of himself. he said, basically, forget about that. i'm going to be a little bit not nice. i'm going to be not nice. >> yeah. >> i think this is one where we can take him at his word, mika. the race to define kamala harris is on. i think the attack is going to be enormous. it is going to be nasty. she's got a very short window to define herself. >> yeah. why don't we take a look? here's donald trump on the campaign trail in charlotte, north carolina, yesterday, focusing on kamala harris. take a look.

>> you know, i was supposed to be nice. they say something happened to me when i got shot. i became nice. [ laughter ] when you're dealing with these people, they're very dangerous people, when youryou're dealingh them, you can't be too nice. you really can't be. if you don't mind, i'm not going to be nice, is that okay? [ applause ] now we have a new victim to defeat. l-y-i-n, lyin, apostrophe, kamala harris. our guy was not at the top of the game, and this one, she just never could be. by the way, lousy student, failed her law exams. did you know that? she couldn't pass her par. she couldn't pass her bar examines. lyin kamala also on a word

called what? abortion. you know this. she refuses to go to bibi netanyahu in washington. she refuses to go there. even if you're against israel or you're against the jewish people, show up and listen to the concept. she's totally against the jewish people. kamala wants to pass laws to outlaw red meat to stop climate change. [ crowd booing ] you know what that means, that means no more cows. you know, this is serious. no, this means no more cows. i guess, eventually, she's going to mean no more people, right? she shouldn't be allowed to run for president, what she's done. she's committing crimes. you're not going to teach a criminal not to be a criminal. it's just not going to happen. >> what? >> just to clarify, of course -- >> confession. >> -- for husband, doug, is jewish. >> projection. >> doug emhoff, her husband. >> yeah, he's jewish. she married a jewish dude.

yeah, she's not against the jewish people. she married a jewish guy. she is seeing benjamin netanyahu. i think she is meeting with benjamin netanyahu later today. she is -- i love this whole idea that the vice president of the united states is stupid. again, here's somebody who is an attorney, prosecutor, the elected attorney general of the biggest state in america, fourth largest economy in the world, u.s. senator elected from that same state, just like she was elected as attorney general in the state of california. and i just -- eddie glaude, it's

just kind of laughable. when you talk about stupidity, pointing at kamala harris when you have donald trump talking yesterday about how bad america was. america was -- what'd he say? america is a stupid country. everybody is stupid, i guess. america is a stupid country, despite the fact we have the strongest military, the strongest economy, the strongest tech sector, like, we're going to dominate a.i. i could go down the list. not really stupid. we're dominating the world in every way you want to dominate the world economically, militarily, politically, culturally, you name it. but, so three things here we heard. one, america is a stupid country. two, if kamala harris is elected, there will be no more cows. three, if kamala harris is elected, there will be no more

people. >> people. >> he got cheers for that. i don't really know what else to say. >> joe, i don't think the historian richard hofstetter had this in mind when he talked about anti-intellectualism in america. >> this is taking it a step further, isn't that? >> beyond that, no more people, joe. how do you respond to those claims? how do you respond to that kind of political performance? i don't know. because it has no substance, right? it's pure spectacle, pure performative. how do you actually respond to that? well, you state your position. you state your position clearly. you dismiss the foolishness for what it is. you might even call it stupid, right? but i think at the end of the day, joe, i want to go back to something. as i was thinking about mike's response to president biden's remarks in the oval office last night, and i think about this and donald trump, i'm working on this new book, joe, and the question at the heart of the book is what happens to the american idea when the future is no longer available to it

because the past has swallowed everything up? we're so nostalgic about what's gone before. we want to reach for something in the past. what joe biden did last night, no matter what you think about his policies or whatever, whether you disagree with him or not, he gave us the future back for a moment. right? as a gen-xer, i'd never think baby boomers are going to give up anything, right? they're the greatest generation america ever produced, my view, but they won't move out of the way. it's who they are. and joe biden gave up the most powerful position in the world last night. i mean, he's going to be president for the next six months, but for some reason, futurity came into view for a moment. juxtapose that against the stupidity of what we heard and what we're hearing from donald trump. there will be no more people, joe. no more people. >> no more cows. >> no more cows. >> and america is a dumb, dumb place. i mean, that would be a

surprise. again, i know for people who hate america, you've got to really get tired of watching this show when i tell you how strong our economy is relative to the rested of world, strongest military relative to the rest of the world since 1945. also, we are so stupid as a nation, if donald trump wants you to believe that. mike barnicle, we're so stupid as a nation that 19 of the top 25 colleges and the universities on the planet are here in the united states of america. again, we are stronger now than ever before. we're stronger now than ever imagined going into covid. this is all hard data. this is not opinion. opinion is the misinformation and garbage that is spewed from russia, spewed from china, spewed from iran. the misinformation, disinformation about the united

states of america's greatness. it's just crazy to me that one party has picked it up and run with it as much as they have. >> joe, i am still stunned by the fact that, off of what you just said, what eddie just said, our democracy might be on the verge of becoming, rather quickly, a nation without cows. >> exactly. >> yeah. >> it's a shock. >> can we pray? can we pray about this, mike? >> hold hands and pray. >> i will tell you, this is -- listen, i'm working. i am working on making the transition to that, what do you call the hamburgers that aren't hamburgers? >> impossible burgers. >> impossible burgers. i'm trying. i'm doing my best. >> beyond burger. >> that's it, beyond burger. i'm doing my best. >> better get that fast.

>> i'm sorry, sometimes i need a hamburg. sometimes i'm weak. >> it's not good for you. >> junk food junkie. mike barnicle, a stupid nation without cows, donald trump says. one day, without people. >> oh, my god. >> susan glasser, with that lurking in the foreground, not the background, the fact remains this race probably, part of it, will come down to the fact it is a fight between yesterday, the other guy, and tomorrow, represented by the vice president of the united states. but one of the things about yesterday that's shocking, and we can only strap ourselves in thinking about it, the republican candidate for president of the united states was just a short time ago the actual president of the united states. how do we deal with that as a nation going forward? >> you know, i think a lot of people have memory hold of that fact, haven't they, mike,

because it is too traumatic. donald trump, the speech is a great reminder. he is the best campaigner for the democratic party that there is in this campaign. he opens his mouth. he says crazy, insane things. i'm still a little bit traumatized by the shark/electric boat thing, you know. this is the level of discourse of donald trump. i think that in terms of president biden's decision to step aside this week, the gift that he gave the democratic party was the gift of being able to talk about the future again, the gift of being able to be the forward-looking party again. with vice president harris, she's decades younger than donald trump. she is able to articulate in a clear, crisp, coherent way, a vision for the future. she is able to

inanities of being the president and getting out of the doom loop. she's been given the gift and the ability for the democratic party to reset the race right now. i think wielding the future is really potent stuff in american elections. it plays to our conception of ourselves as a country, of the future. nikki haley was right in january when she said that it's very likely that the first party that can figure out how to, you know, move on from the past and move on from having an 80-year-old standard bearer, that that's the party that's going to benefit politically in this election year. >> "the new yorker"'s susan glasser, thank you very much for coming on this morning. her new piece is online now. check it out. still ahead on "morning joe," a conversation about the historic nature of vice president kamala harris's candidacy. we'll be joined by the president and ceo of the naacp. as we go to break, a few of the other stories making headlines this morning. japan's population dropped

for the 15th straight year. 2023 marked a record low in births and a record high in deaths. as the "ap" reports, younger japanese are increasingly reluctant to marry or have children, discouraged by bleak job prospects and the high cost of living. a gender biased corporate culture that adds a burden only on women and working mothers. go ahead. >> really quickly, i'm sorry, that is exactly what i'm talking about regarding china. >> yeah. >> they started in 1979, they started a one child policy. that one child policy has driven down the population, but now they find themselves in the middle of a demographic time bomb that is making them less competitive, not only with the

united states but the rest of the world. it'll only get worse as we move forward. that's why ronald reagan talked about -- and let me be very clear here. i've said the same thing for 30 years. said the same thing for 30 years. i do not think we should have people in this country or encourage people to come to this country where their first act is an illegal act, crossing the border. so that's my guideline. but like ronald reagan, i believe we need immigrants in this country for the same reason that ronald reagan said we needed immigrants in this country. because it grows america. it keeps us young. it keeps us fresh. it keeps us viable. it keeps -- it brings in a new generation of talent. >> it's america. >> it brings in a new generation of workers. it's what makes us different from japan, what makes us different from china, what makes us different even from our allies in europe. we have become the melting pot

of the world, you know, for well over 100, 150, 200 years. that's what has made us great and kept us young according to ronald wilson reagan. that's why when people are talking about cutting immigration numbers, cutting numbers for refugees, cutting numbers, ronald reagan, go back and see his farewell speech to america. he'd say the same thing that is befalling japan and befalling china right now could befall the united states of america. the results would be bad for america economically, culturally, and in just about every other way. >> great point. more news in a moment. we'll be right back. this, i believe, is one of the most important sources of america's greatness. we lead the world because unique among nations, we draw our people, our strength, from every

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from ohio, which trump already has. he doesn't soften trump's far right thing at all. he is "handsmaid tail" curious, not for suburban women. and he is not great on the stump. why did trump pick him in the first place? trump has a trump answer. >> he liked me maybe more than anybody liked me. >> really? really? vance likes trump more than anybody else? is that true? >> yes, of course. >> makes sense. that's verified. there you go.

>> all right. mome moments ago, vice president kamala harris released a launch video for her presidential campaign. let's take a look.

>> joining us now, the president and ceo of the naacp, derek johnson. it's great to have you on the show this morning. so talk about the history of this campaign and also what's at stake. >> well, i'm glad to hear that ad. messages of hope are what we need. we choose freedom as a positive, forward-looking message. it's really important. we're talking about an individual who is the most qualified person on the ballot. in 2020, the american public chose to look forward, not backwards. they chose to create a society that was more inclusive.

kamala harris was a part of that ballot. i'm also proud to know that she's a person who can live in her identity and not allow others to be uncomfortable because of her identity. that's what we should celebrate as america. and naacp, we're not partisan, we don't endorse, but we also recognize that our fight to put out hate is one that's directly tied to the choices that we make in november because the rise in hate we've seen under the past administration was a threat not only to the african-american community, it was a threat to all americans. the jewish community, the latino community, all across the board. we choose freedom is a forward-looking message, and i'm glad they landed on a hope message and not a fear message. >> good morning, derrick. this is eddie glaude. good to see you. let me ask a two-part question. one is how will she address black men as voters? since we're talking about, at least some of the poll data showed a larger percentage of

black men were leaning toward donald trump. two, what does the campaign need to do in order to get the record turnout that could change the electoral map if we think we can get those numbers going back to 2008? >> well, i have never seen any poll that shows black men leaning toward donald trump. i have seen black men want to keep their voices heard. i do understand the concern of black men. i happen to be one. it is important that her campaign talk about how african-americans, how black men, how men, how americans will be empowered, how they will be included. project 2025 is the real signal here. it goes beyond the people to the policies. the policies we should be concerned about are will we have an american that recognizes all of us and our uniqueness and genius, or will we have a country that continues to otherize certain parts of the

population? i think she understands because she has been seen as an other. in fact, she should be seen as a part of our uniqueness, our genius. because what she brings to the table is the type of insight we need in a leader of this nation. >> mr. johnson, what do you do, what does the naacp do, what do we all do to fix ourselves, to restrain ourselves from combating the wildfire of racism and sexism that will surely arrive in this campaign, much of it aimed at the vice president? >> well, we all have to look at the same direction towards hope. we have to also give one another a little room to appreciate our uniqueness, our difference. that's what is making our country great despite all the fear mongering we have seen. you know, you can recall, there was a week of terror in this country under the past

administration. a walmart was attacked, latino community in a mass shooter. few days later, louisville, kentucky, kroger, targeting the african-american community. then a synagogue in pittsburgh, mass shooting. we should not be looking to go backwards. that only happened because you had someone in the white house who gave license to a level of hatred. people carried it out. we need a leader that brings us together, gives a message of hope, and lean into the public policies that solve the problems and really have an inclusive society. project 2025 takes us away from that. what this campaign should represent is a way for us to come together and continue to be a leading nation. >> all right. president and ceo of the naacp, derrick johnson, always great to have you on the show. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. our next guest coming up is looking at the impact of

conspiracy theories by digging into the psychology of how ordinary people come to believe the unbelievable. the author of "the quiet damage, qanon and the destruction of the american family," joins us straight ahead on "morning joe."

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live look at new york city. an ominous shot there at 44 past the hour. before president joe biden's address last night, conspiracy theories had been spreading across social media and far-right networks, claiming biden had died from covid-19. according to research company peak metrics, the lies were especially prevalent on elon musk's social media platform x. between sunday and tuesday, the company reports the number of false posts about biden's health spiked from about 29,000 on x to 176,000. it is amazing how lies spread with wild abandon. joining us now, journalist jesselyn cook. she's spent years covering the spread of conspiracy theories and is the author of the new book, "the quiet damage, qanon,

and the destruction of the american family." wow, there is so much to talk about here. jesselyn, disinformation, like if you google someone or something prevalent in politics right now, half of what you read is lies. they go unchecked. where do we begin, and tell us about your book. >> thank you so much for having me. you're absolutely right, conspiracy theories today are just normalized. they're part of our culture, part of our politics. we see them at the dinner table. we see them on x. we see them everywhere we look. for the people who have really been pulled down the rabbit hole and become obsessed with this ideology, with the qanon type disinformation we're seeing, it can become completely consuming. so dealing with this phenomenon, i think, there's a temptation to get caught up in the true and the false because we see so much lunacy, so many ludacris lies

spreading. for so many people, what i've come to learn through my research, for talking to families from different walks of life who have been pulled into this, it goes deeper than the information, true versus false, and these theories are satisfying some unmet, underlying need. >> it seems so many of these who have fallen into these conspiracy theories, we saw some of them storm the capitol on january 6th. we saw a lot, and you talk about this in your book, about those who engage with covid trutherism. talk to us a little bit about some of the families you based the book around. >> you know, the families come from very different backgrounds. we have a wealthy white lawyer who is very educated. we have an impoverished black mother who grew up in extreme hardship. i think there is a stereotype that conspiracy theorists all fit one demographic box, when that is very much not the case. i talk to people from different political leanings, rich, poor, young, old. the thing they really have in common is a sense of

powerlessness, perceived or valid. so when we think about marginalized communities, it is surprising to a lot of people that minorities can be pulled into this thinking, because so often, they're villainized by these conspiracy theories. it is hard to understand how they'd also be attracted to them. but the sense of powerlessness can be entrenched from generations, centuries of oppression and abuse. that sense of distrust there is really like a rational hypervigilance. on the privileged end of the spectrum, we can be conditioned to feel this sense of powerlessness even if it is not accurate. the wealthy white lawyer who i wrote about in my book, it came to her through fox news. it instilled in her this victim mentality. she felt like her rights were being trampled all over. everything she held dear was going to be taken away from her. i think when you're conditioned to feel like a victim of the establishment, it's so much easier to fall for anti-establishment conspiracy theories. >> this is eddie glaude.

thank you so much for your book. in november of 1964, the historian richard hostetler wrote "the paranoid style of american politics," in harper's. this seems to be distinctive, baked into american political culture, but this is different. what is different about this than what we've typically associated with american political discourse? >> you're absolutely right. this is baked into our dna, and we've had powerful people weaponize conspiracy theories for their own gain throughout history. but the reason we've really, it seems like things have blown up so much lately, is the social media factor, in part. i mean, we are having algorithms that are pulling us into very different realities. you and i could spend an hour on facebook and come away with completely different interpretations of what's happening in the world around us. it's really, for many of the people i spoke with, it began on facebook. it began on twitter, on x. it's really hard to have a

shared reality when we're all traversing different versions of it online. >> the new book is entitled "the quiet damage, qanon and the destruction of the american family." jesselyn cook, thank you for coming on this morning. still ahead, the fbi director was on capitol hill yesterday to answer questions about the assassination attempt on donald trump. we'll show you some of his testimony just ahead on "morning joe." night and day. despite treatment, it's still not under control. but now i have rinvoq. a once-daily pill that reduces the itch and helps clear the rash of eczema —fast. some taking rinvoq felt significant itch relief as early as 2 days— and some achieved dramatic skin clearance as early as 2 weeks. many saw clear or almost-clear skin. plus, many had clearer skin and less itch, even at 3 years.

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provided in his testimony, including discovery that the gunman may have had a firearm with collapsible stock which might have had the weapon easier to hide as he made his way through the crowd. >> we haven't found anybody with first hand observation of him with the weapon walking around beforehand. >> reporter: but while they have learned quite a bit about the shooter, there's so much they don't know. >> i think it's fair to say that we do not yet have a clear picture of his motive. >> reporter: including if he used a ladder to get to the roof of the building where the shooting took place. >> we did not find the ladder at the scene. >> reporter: and why he flew a drone over the site about two hours before the rally. >> our hypothesis at this point, the experts think he would have been livestreaming. >> reporter: wray said eight bullet cartridges were found on the roof with the gunman's body. they opened fire seconds after they noticed. a local law enforcement officer had spotted him. noting that crooks was not on

their radar. >> we did not have any information about the shooter. he was not in our holdings before the shooting. >> reporter: director wray also offered up the possibility that the former president may not have suffered a direct hit from a bullet, but instead some slal nel may have grazed his ear. trump has not released any of the medical records if his treatment at the hospital. >> we're back in a moment with a president's historic address from the oval office. plus, key moments from the israeli prime minister's joint address to congress. "morning joe" continues in just a moment.

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the great thing about america is here kings and dictators do not rule. the people do. history is in your hands. the power is in your hands. the idea of america lies in your hands. we just have to keep faith. keep the faith, and remember who we are. we're the united states of america, and there's simply nothing -- nothing beyond our capacity when we do it together. so let's act together. preserve our democracy. >> president biden addressing the nation for the first time since ending his re-election campaign. in a somber speech, the president talked about uniting the country and putting what's best for our democracy over his desire for a second term. we're going to have more on his

historic remarks in just a moment. also ahead, another day on the campaign trail for a vice president, kamala harris working to shore up support in her bid for the white house. donald trump was also on the trail yesterday, but he had a much more pessimistic view of the country. we'll have more on that. meanwhile, president biden will hold a high-stakes meeting today with benjamin netanyahu following the israeli prime minister's joint address to congress yesterday which was skipped by dozens of congressional democrats. a lot going on. good morning, and welcome to "morning joe." it is thursday, july 25th. with us, we have the host of "way too early," white house bureau chief at politico, jonathan lemire, professor at princeton university, eddie glaad jr., katty kay, managing editor sam stein is with us, and the national editor at "the

financial sometimes," ed luce is with us. a lot of cross currents to say the least. >> a lot of cross currents. the speech last night by the president, i thought there were a couple of things that stood out to me. one was the contrast between an autocratic vision of the future -- >> yeah. >> -- and a democratic thought for the future instead of saying, i alone can do it, instead of talking about moving all of the power into the white house. joe biden did something last night that sounds a little radical in 2024, but actually has -- i mean, it has its -- it goes all the way back to the founding of america, and has its heritage and the founding documents where at the end as we played, he said history is in

your hands. >> it is. >> power -- then he was, like, the power. instead of an autocrat going, i have the power, he said, the power is in your hands. the idea of america is in your hands. it was beautiful. it was beautiful because it was true. it also is beautiful because it's such a contrast between a vision -- his vision and, i think, most americans' vision of what america should be and the vision of a rising autocracy, of the idea of a strongman. so that thematically was just absolutely beautiful and talking about how he reveres the office of the presidency, but he loves his country more. i thought though, just two practical matters that really stood out to me, the democrats should be talking about every day on the campaign trail, are a couple of facts. ronald reagan said that facts

are stubborn things. they really are. you know, that stubborn fact that i always talk about here when donald trump was running the first time and talking about the illegal invasion and rapists from mexico, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and was going to build a wall because the crisis was so bad. what do i point to? i point to the statistics that even the trump administration had in their documentation, that illegal border crossings from mexico were at a 50-year low before donald trump came into office. a 50-year low under barack obama and joe biden. >> mm-hmm. >> illegal immigration has shot up, but the president said something last night that, again, democrats should talk about on the campaign trail when illegal immigration comes in. first of all, they can once again talk about how it was donald trump that killed the toughest border security bill

drafted by a conservative republican from oklahoma because he thought it would hurt him politically, but then what else did he say? he said illegal border crossings are lower now than when donald trump left office. that's one. two, that crime, which republicans are talking about, which americans have been talking about a good bit, but now there's such -- so many good things are happening and things are moving in a great direction. violent crime is at a 50-year low. let me say it again, democrats. violent crime across the united states is at a 50-year low. that means it's lower now than it was during any point during the trump administration. so again, we had beautiful themes flowing throughout, but also a couple of points of the

successes that he is having right now on bringing inflation down, on bringing crime down, on bringing illegal border crossings down. the last two, to a point that are even lower than any point during the trump administration, certainly on violent crime. >> well, and he is choosing to step back from the campaign and end his presidency as an unmitigated success. historically, you can't look at it any other way. you may not agree with his policies, but he got more done than any other president in modern american history, which is a very solid launching pad for kamala harris. it's not like he's ending a campaign because, you know, the presidency was a disaster or something bad happened or he, you know, like other presidencies have ended in the past. this is a good launch pad for kamala harris and the republicans' reaction to it is quite something.

we'll get to it. it also might be quite revealing. we'll get to that, but from behind the resolute desk in the oval office, the president spoke about his desire to unite the democratic party and put the country ahead of his own personal ambition. >> it's been the honor of my life to serve as your president, but in the defense of democracy, which is at stake, i think it's more important than any title. i draw strength and i find joy in working for the american people, but this sacred task of perfecting our union, it's not about me. it's about you, your families, your futures. it's about we the people. we can never forget that, and i never have. i've made it clear that i believe america's at an inflection point. one of those rare moments in history when the decisions we

make now determine our fate of our nation and the world for decades to come. i believe my record as president, my leadership in the world, my vision for america's future all married in a second term, but nothing -- nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy. that includes personal ambition. so i've decided the best way forward is to pass the torch to a new generation. it's the best way to unite our nation. you know, there is a time and a place for long years of experience in public life. there's also a time and a place for new voices, fresh voices. yes, younger voices, and that time and place is now. in just a few months, the american people will choose the course of america's future. i made my choice. i've made my views known.

i would like the thank our great vice president, kamala harris. she's experienced. she's tough. she's capable. she's been an incredible partner to me and a leader for our country. now the choice is up to you, the american people. i've given my heart and my soul to our nation like so many others. i'm blessed a million times in return with the love and support of the american people. i hope you have some idea of how grateful i am to all of you. the great thing about america is here kings and dictators do not rule. the people do. history is in your hands. the power is in your hands. the idea of america lies in your hands. we just have to keep faith, keep the faith and remember who we are.

we're the united states of america, and there's simply nothing -- nothing beyond our capacity when we do it together. so let's act together. preserve our democracy. god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. thank you. >> you know, ed luce, i -- struck by the humility of that speech and stark contrast not just to who kamala harris will now be running against, but also other politicians of this age where they look at donald trump and think, oh, i need to puff my chest out. i need to talk about myself all the time. i need to talk about how powerful i am, that only i can fix it. i need to insult others, and the words are beautiful. i wrote them down here. they struck me last night, and i just loved hearing it. i would have loved to hear this -- i would love to hear this from any politician, republican, democratic, independent. i hope you have some idea of how

grateful i am for you giving me this opportunity, and then he talks about how we aren't a nation of kings or dictators, that the power is in americans' hands, that history is in americans' hands, that the idea of america rests in the hands of everyday working americans. that -- that is the dream of america, not some powerful strongman saying, i alone can fix it. not some powerful strongman saying, agree with me or i'll try you for treason, but to be humble in service, you know, that sort of servant leadership that jesus talked about, and again, to project that out as

you're giving what in effect is your farewell speech to this campaign and country, i think it's a wonderful example for politicians of all parties. >> yes, i agree, and i think, you know, depending on what happens in november, regardless of what happens in november, actually, this will go down in history as one of those moments that you've just described, joe. i do think that kamala harris victory would help cement this moment as an incredible moment in history. i was fascinated not just by his contrast with the unspoken -- the unmentioned donald trump, which is as wide as the grand canyon in terms of the self-sacrifice involved here, but i was also fascinated by the hints that he's aware he's got six months left as president and we could have an extremely interesting sort of dual role

here between kamala harris as the potential next president and a reinvigorated and in some ways liberated joe biden who no longer needs to campaign and he's got an eighth of his presidency left. that's quite a long time. >> yeah. >> in which he can do things. me mentioned one of those in the address and that is reform the supreme court, an incredibly important measure to secure the future of american -- of the american constitution and the republic, and so i sort of noticed a little bit of steel there too as well as -- as well as nostalgia for an extraordinary, extraordinary storied career of service in american politics. >> katty kay, your thoughts on president biden's speech? also, potentially how it is being heard around the world given all the work he's done,

expanding and solidifying nato and trying to solidify our partnerships after some would claim that they were perhaps loosened a bit in the presidency before him. i wonder how they are looking at this today. >> i mean, there's been a massive amount of attention on what's been happening in the united states over the last couple of weeks from america's allies here in europe, and, you know, some trepidation about the november election and what might happen and what that could mean for america's allies around the world, but also kind of a sense of excitement that this race has radically changed and that there is now the possibility of a president being elected who is more committed to nato, who is more committed to ukraine, who is more committed to multilateral alliances than donald trump is. so people were watching what joe biden was saying from the oval office last night, and i think joe's right. there was a kind of -- there was

a soaring quality in defense of democracy and that idea that this is about the american people, and you heard it in kamala harris' comments too. this is a people power process. it's not about autocracy, and you compare that to what donald trump said about america being a stupid country, which wasn't exactly very -- i don't know if the word exists, of him, but there's a clear contrast coming out about the harris campaign and joe biden looking to the future and democracy and talking about those issues and donald trump as he said yesterday, they asked me to be good. well, that is over going back to the kind of american carnage type message he had before. yesterday was a day of distinctions and contrasts between the two campaigns. >> i just don't understand. i just don't -- i don't understand what it gets anybody trashing america. i never understood this. america is a stupid country. america is -- you know, ed luce,

i want to go back to you. i'm going to get reporting from jonathan lemire and sam stein and certainly, boy, i want to hear eddie and his take, but i was -- after the show yesterday, i was having breakfast with a top executive and i've known him for a very long time, and we were just sitting there catching up, and i asked him. i said, what is -- because i was asking about the economy. i was asking. i said, what do i need to be looking at as we're moing forward? he goes, joe. you need to be looking at -- you need to not listen to what the politicians are saying. you need to listen to what our allies and adversaries are saying and what they're thinking about america outside of washington. he said, if you -- and it actually sounds a lot like what joe biden said. he said, if you had told me

20 years ago that we were going to be in such a strong position over china that we were going to be lapping china economically, that we were going to be lapping china politically, that we were going to be lapping china on a.i., that we were going to be lapping china on everything, that they were going to be middle of a demographic crisis, if you had told me ten years ago that america was going to be in the strongest position that it's ever been economically, militarily, culturally, socially, i would have said you were crazy. he said, even five years ago, he said since covid, america has gone like this, and the rest of the world seems to be going like this. he said, we're not only, you know, the envy of our enemies. we're the envy of our allies. he said, that's what you need to look at. just how strong america is right

now, and this -- by the way, this guy is not political. he was just talking about how he was seeing the world investing and running his -- his corporation over the next five, ten years, and he said, we're just -- we're just in the position nobody would have dreamed we would have been in getting out of covid. >> yeah, and i think that's right. i mean, and president biden alluded the that last night. he could have gone on more about it. i mean, america has had by far, the strongest rebound from the pandemic. the biden administration really put its shoulder to the wheel and we see that in the number. far higher growth, far lower unemployment, than other developed countries, and inflation is back now under control, and, in fact, i don't know whether you discussed this with your friend at breakfast, but the fed would be in a good position next week to start

cutting interest rates and again in september, which i guarantee you will send donald trump insane because he will allege bias on the fed's part, but it will be objectively a good thing to do, and very helpful in helping persuade americans exactly what your chief executive was telling him about because there's a weird vibe session going on in this country where people are not really -- are not really acknowledging what you've just laid out, which are objective facts and i think that's partly to do with the distortive prism of the media we consume. if you keep getting told you're badly off, then you start to believe it, but the fed could help people to believe it, and they're pretty much on the cusp of being able to do so now. >> yeah. it is so strange the disconnect between -- and a lot of it is disinformation. a lot of it is disinformation

online. >> yep. >> a lot of it is disinformation coming from other networks. a lot of it is disinformation -- disinformation from politicians who want to tell you how badly things are when america's economy is stronger today, just by data. it's not an opinion. this is not opinion. this is fact. look at the data where you're stronger economically, where you're stronger militarily, where you're stronger culturally. violent crime -- violent crime again, at a 50-year low right now. vast improvements there. inflation going down faster than it is across other industrialized -- western industrialized nations. jobs numbers, the best in 30 years. >> mm-hmm. >> the dollar, stronger than it's been in 40 years. i could go on and on. these are just the facts, and this is why the world is still looking to the united states, and why we're still the envy of the world.

it's just some of our own politicians and some newspeople, who want to whip you into a frenzy every day and beat down america. talk about how badly america is, you know, we're all -- i mean, i was so horrified by the imagery of the american flags burning. i think it reveals a hell of a lot about the people who did it and who is backing them, and it's horrifying to me, and at the same time, you have people who are trashing america every day, and how is that -- how is that not playing into the russians' hands? how is that not playing into the communist chinese hands? how is that not playing into iran's hands? by constantly trashing america, and saying that america is a

stupid country, that's straight from the mouth of vladimir putin. that's straight from the mouth -- >> yeah. >> -- of president xi. that's what they want you to believe. we're not a stupid country. we are a great country, and america is great because as the president said last night, because our people are good, and we're working harder than ever and we're doing better than ever before. don't believe their lies. america is great. now we'll be right back. we're going to have reporters around -- mika, after the break, we're going to have reporters round up by two of the best reporters in washington, d.c., and we're going to be getting keen insights from our favorite brilliant professor eddie gladd jr. >> there you go. we'll be right back. >> countries are taking their criminal elements and they're bringing them into the united states of america. they're dumping them in our -- we're a dumping ground. we're a stupid country that's run by stupid people. ground we're a stupid country that's run by stupid people

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jonathan lemire, ed luce said this is a speech we would be talking about for a long time, that historians would be talking about, seeing what lbj said in march of 1968. this is one of those speeches as well, and but i've got the say thematically, just beautiful, and again, the sort of speech i would love to hear from a democratic president, a republican president, an independent president, talking

about the power of america being in the hands of americans. >> yeah. a powerful speech and a powerful moment in history. the speech per reporting came together. one of the president's longest serving aides, the main author, our friend, historian jon meacham contributed as well, and this is one -- we know this. president biden got to this moment somewhat reluctantly. you could see it in his speech last night. he still believes he could run. he still believes he could win. his ideas warrant a second term, but he's bowing to reality in a very selfless act. a selfless act, one that he should we should not overlook relinquishing political power. the stakes are too high. the threat is too grave to risk it if people don't believe that i can still do it. so he hands the torch now, and he said to it a younger generation and to vice president harris and we've seen what has been a blockbuster rollout of her candidacy in recent days.

but sam stein, this president not quite done yet. as ed mentioned, supreme court reform on the agenda perhaps is what that means. perhaps a code of ethics, perhaps more. we should get details on that. trying to revive the cancer moon shot. he's got a meeting today with prime minister benjamin netanyahu of israel trying to get a ceasefire deal done. the u.s. officials say it's close, but there's still some stubborn hurdles to clear. give us your thoughts last night about what this means for this president both in the present, but also what it means for his legacy. >> yeah. well, like ed said, one of the things that's going to determine all of this is if kamala harris is win. his legacy will be directly tied to that. i was struck like all of by the somberness of the speech. i went back and looked at -- the other thing i was struck by is donald trump frankly. people made this observation,

but donald trump's one of his last speeches in the white house was post-january 6, in which he was talking about his refusal to relinquish power, in which he talked about his belief that he had been robbed, cheated of his presidency, and he was holding onto power, and here was joe biden, 3 1/2 years later saying, i will give up power willingly and explaining why. i thought that contrast was extremely profound, and it got me think about what means -- what it means to be strong, right? strong can be interpreted in a different way for different people. some people view strength as projection of power, but i think strong is willingly stepping a side, knowing that you can't win and saying i'm going to sacrifice my ambition for something larger, and i think in this case, that's what biden decided to do. i will say, look. it needs to be said. he doesn't believe this criticism, but the contrast -- the other contrast is with

kamala harris. i thought biden did look frail last night. i thought biden did look old, and he is old, and as you've seen kamala harris on the trail the past two days, you can just see that contrast in how profound it is, and what it means to democratic voters who have responded with this incredible enthusiasm in terms of the outpouring of donations and support. and so it was just a historic moment last night seeing this presidency at a crossroads, and like you, jonathan, i am curious about what he does with the next six months. i don't think those agenda items he listed necessarily are practical, but he can use the office to shine a light on things he couldn't have done had he been a candidate for office. >> yeah, and eddie, i'm struck. i'm just so struck by the contrast between what donald trump has said, what he's told americans about the state of america and where america really

is, and again, i'm not -- we're out of the opinion range right here, and i'm just talking about facts. remember when he ran and said the american dream was dead. just a lie. the american dream's not dead. the american dream has been growing, and then he talked about american carnage. remember american carnage during his inauguration, and when he was saying that, let me repeat it again because the lie has been told so often that i need to keep repeating the truth. now when donald trump was inaugurated and talked about american carnage and people pouring over our borders more than ever before, and violent crime is at a 50-year low. crime was at a 50-year low when he became president. when he became president. had he took the reins from barack obama and joe biden. illegal border crossings were at a 50-year low and yet he was

talking about american carnage and how horrible america was, and how only he can fix it and now he's talking about how america is a stupid country again. america is a stupid country because we're letting all these people pour in, and this is the worst. it's been bad. it has been bad. it was bad during donald trump's term. it got worse during the first part of joe biden's term, but right now again, you look at the trend lines, and illegal border crossings are lower right now than they were when donald trump left office, and so again, the contrast between what he says and what is true is striking. the most striking thing though, is that he thinks he can get votes and he obviously can, by tearing down america, by saying we are a horrible country, by saying we're a stupid country, by attacking us the same way vladimir putin or president xi

attacks us, by bringing us down. why you heard joe biden last night lifting us up. this campaign should be about that, about the greatness of america. >> right, joe. i think donald trump understands the media ecosystem in which those statements are going to land. he's going to make this claim that america is stupid because of them, because of those policies. your life isn't what it should be because of them, because of these policies. so it's a way of exploiting grievance. it's a way of exploiting a sense that people can barely keep their noses above water, and when you contrast that with what we heard last night, no matter what your position is on -- what your position may be, vis-a-vis joe biden's policy, vis-a-vis gaza, no matter your position on his policy with regards to student loan debt, what we saw was magnanimity. what we saw was a quiet statesmanship, and he asked us

this question. do we still believe in honesty, decency, respect, freedom, justice, and democracy? that question fundamentally goes directly to what donald trump represents, what he poses as a threat, and then, joe, for me, it was this really interesting moment. because he knows that the country is really on the precipice as it were in terms of our divisions, he reaches for lincoln and he raised the declaration of independence into the constitution. that's lincoln's move. so a government of the people, by the people, for the people, right? that move is so fundamentally tied to our sense of every human being is equal before god, right? when we begin to think about that, we know that joe biden was reaching for the best of who we are as he's calling us to take responsibility for this country, for democracy itself. the contrast could not be -- could not be starker, joe. >> yeah. no doubt about it. all right. still ahead on "morning joe,"

israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed a joint session of congress yesterday. we'll show you some of what he had to say about the war in gaza and the pro-palestinian protesters here in the u.s. plus, we'll get a reaction from a pair of lawmakers on opposite sides of the aisle who's attended those remarks. "morning joe" will be right back. remarks "morning joe" will be right back

israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu vowed total victory against hamas in his address to a joint session of congress. netanyahu delivered the speech on capitol hill yesterday. it was his fourth address to congress since 1996. dozens of democrats skipped the event including vice president kamala harris and former house speaker nancy pelosi. in his nearly one-hour long speech, netanyahu defended israel's military campaign in gaza calling it a battle for the

survival of the jewish state. he also denounced the criticism he's received both here in the u.s. and internationally, specifically calling out pro-palestinian protesters. >> we meet today at a crossroads of history. our world is in upheaval. in the middle east, iran's access of terror confronts america, israel, and our arab friends. this is not a clash of civilizations. it's a clash between barbarism in civilization. [ applause ] for the forces of civilization to triumph, america and israel must stand together. [ applause ] because -- because when we stand together, something very simple happens. we win. they lose.

[ applause ] many anti-israel protesters, many choose to stand with evil. they stand with hamas. they stand with rapists and murderers. they refuse to make the simple distinction between those who target terrorists and those who target civilians. between the democratic state of israel and the terrorist thugs of hamas. for all we know, iran is funding the anti-israel protests that are going on right now outside this building -- not that many, but they're there, and throughout this city. well, i have a message for these protesters. when the tyrants of tehran who hang gays from cranes and murder women for not covering their hair are praising, promoting, and funding you, you have officially become iran's useful idiot. >> they are iran's useful idiot. they're hamas' useful idiot.

they're terrorism's useful idiot. we'll talk more about netanyahu's speech in a moment, but first, i was talking about how republicans tear down the united states of america, how donald trump calls america a stupid country. he talks about american carnage, constantly trashing the united states, and we see the american flag yesterday being burned, and, you know, some of us are -- some of us are kind of old-fashioned about the american flag. we don't like seeing it burned. we sure as hell don't like seeing people stand by while it's taken down and replaced by a palestinian flag. we don't like seeing when in the '70s, when the american flag was used as a weapon to attack black students when they were trying to integrate boston schools, and

we sure as hell don't like seeing the american flag used as a weapon on january the 6th to attack police officers, and of course, there's video of people bragging about how they make their american flag a weapon leading up to the riots. i just -- it's -- the idea of what we saw on college campuses last year. oh -- and a lot of people got upset when i said that oh, this is just college students just wandering out of their classes and deciding one day they're going to protest against israel. it's so naive when you look at the people that funded those protests and funded the protest probably yesterday, and you look at the statements they made celebrating the slaughter, the rapes, the killings, the burnings on october the 7th.

it tells you all you need to know. we have useful idiots for russia. every day, useful idiots for russia every day doing vladimir putin's bidding. we also as benjamin netanyahu said, we have useful idiots for those in tehran, and we cannot let them have their way in america, and infiltrate our college campuses and burn american flags within the shadow of the u.s. capitol. just like the american flag can't be used as a weapon. as it was on january the 6th. a couple of democrats expressing their anger. congressman dean phillips posted this. i never imagined seeing the flag of a terror group holding eight americans hostage for 292 days waved in the streets of our nation's capitol. that alongside the image of a protester waving the hamas flag,

and congressman jake auchincloss saying, the jew hate and anti-american gor badge coming out of college campuses this spring didn't end with the last day of school. college presidents, you are on notice. you are on notice. enforce your codes of conduct from day one of the fall semester. let our students go back to class. this is me now, and actually learn, and republican governor larry hogan who's running for the senate saying, this is an insult to every american who has worn the flag on their arm and died for our nation. it is disgusting and disgraceful. and it is. we'll talk more about prime minister netanyahu's speech before congress when richard haass joins the conversation. that's straight ahead after a quick break. e conversation that's straight ahead after a quick break. ne and only sotyktu,

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joining us is richard haass. richard, let's talk about benjamin netanyahu's speech. we've heard for some time that a peace deal may be near, a ceasefire, a peace deal may be near. what was interesting yesterday was the prime minister spoke very little of hostages. hostage families were very upset that he seems to be ignoring their pleas to bring the hostages home. talk about the speech. talk about what you expect today when benjamin netanyahu meets with president biden and if we may be close to a ceasefire or a peace deal that will bring those hostages home. >> lots of things to say, joe. good morning. look. there were some good lines in the speech. the onebeginning. it's not a clash between civilization, but between barbarism and civilization, i thought was a powerful line. you also had several israeli

soldiers stand up. one was a muslim. it showed the diversity of israeli society. i thought that was almost reagan reagan-esque. some of it was, shall we say, a bit cynical with all the emphasis on the hostages even though bibi netanyahu has not made the return of hostages a priority. i thought he painted with a broad brush protesters. you can question whether what israel is doing is in its own long-term self-interest. the big problem with the speech is what it wasn't. you didn't really have a plan at

all for gaza. he talked about demilitarization or deradicalization. no mention of the west bank, no mention of a palestinian state. still missing is what you might call the necessary political dimension of what has been and remains a largely military strategy. so i don't think the prime minister changed the conversation. you may get some type of a temporary cease-fire at some point, but i don't think even if you do, it's going to change the fundamentals. it's not going to give you the basis of long-term governance in gaza or putting together some type of relationship between israelis and palestinians. coming up, two members of congress who were inside the chamber for netanyahu's speech.

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♪♪ welcome to the fourth hour of "morning joe." it's 6:00 a.m. on the west coast, 9:00 a.m. in the east. are you with us, west coast? time to wake up. president biden addressed the nation from the oval office last night about his decision to drop

out of the 2024 presidential race as a matter of saving democracy. donald trump was on the campaign trail yesterday mocking vice president kamala harris. we have reports now from nbc news' chief white house correspondent peter alexander and senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. >> i revere this office, but i love my country more. >> reporter: in a historic oval office address, president biden detailing the most consequential decision of his lengthy political career. >> it's been the honor of my life to serve as your president, but in the defense of democracy, which is at stake, i think it's more important than any title. >> reporter: it comes less than a month after a poor debate performance and pressure from democrats led him to drop out of the race. >> i believe my record as president, my leadership in the world, my vision for america's future all merited a second

term, but nothing, nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy. that includes personal ambition. >> reporter: the president insisting the best way forward, to pass the torch to a new generation. >> it's also a time and a place for new voices, fresh voices, yes, younger voices. that time is now. >> reporter: president biden praising kamala harris, who he endorsed this week. >> she's experienced, she's tough, she's capable. she's been an incredible partner to me and leader for our country. >> reporter: watching inside the oval office, the president's family, appearing to comfort him afterwards. the first lady sharing this handwritten note on social media thanking those who never wavered and encouraging her husband's supporters to now put that trust in harris. the vice president in houston this morning to deliver a speech to the nation's largest teacher's union. on wednesday in indianapolis,

she vowed to fight for reproductive rights. >> when i am president of the united states and when congress passes a law to restore those freedoms, i will sign it into law. >> reporter: harris could be close to another high-profile endorsement, from former president obama. he's expected to throw his weight behind her soon, all of it as harris faces an august 7th deadline to name a running mate. among the top contenders, arizona senator mark kelly and pennsylvania governor josh shapiro. >> she earned the nomination and i'm proud to support her. >> reporter: facing a new political landscape, donald trump holding nothing back, attacking his white house successor overnight, on social media slamming president biden's prime time address, calling it, quote, barely understandable and so bad. earlier at his firstdropped out

race -- >> three days ago we officially defeated the worst president in the history of our country. kamala, you're fired! get out of here! >> reporter: trying to tie her to biden policies on immigration and inflation. >> lyin' kamala harris has been the ultraliberal driving force behind every single biden catastrophe. >> reporter: joking about shedding the more unifying tone he attempted to strike at last week's republican convention. >> i was supposed to be nice. they say something happened to me when i got shot. i became nice. when you're dealing with these people -- they're very dangerous people -- you can't be too nice. >> reporter: it comes as the president's running made senator jd vance is in the spotlight for some of his past comments on parenthood, including this

speech in 2021. >> when you go to the polls as a parent, you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in a democratic republican than people who don't have kids. >> reporter: and this year referring to harris and other prominent democrats. >> we're effectively run in this country by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable in their own lives. >> reporter: jennifer aniston posting she, quote, truly can't believe the comments. and kirsten emhoff writing, for over ten years kamala has been a coparent with doug and i. she's loving, nurturing, fiercely protective and always present. >> there you go. joe, what do you think? there's a real contrast here now, stark. >> yeah. there's a stark contrast. one of the frustrations we heard from democrats after the debate was that joe biden did not respond to the multitude of lies and also the misinformation, the

outright distortions that donald trump was telling the american people. and it actually turned off a lot of independents and swing voters. in this case, you just listen to what he's saying now. let's take some of the weaker issues for the biden/harris campaign, now the harris campaign. let's talk about illegal immigration, because that's something that donald trump loves to talk about. of course, he killed the toughest, most conservative border security bill in the past 30 years, because he said passing it would actually hurt him politically. so he'd rather fentanyl, illegal immigrants, terrorists stream across the border for another year for his own political gain. that's one. two, let's talk about inflation. america remains the envy of the world. one of the reasons why is post covid our inflation rate has come down. it's now down at manageable

levels and, in fact, the fed is talking about possibility cutting interest rates coming up. why wouldn't they cut interest rates? because the u.s. economy is so strong. the "wall street journal" and other news publications reporting this morning that the u.s. economy grew once again at a rapid rate. it grew at 2.8% pace in the second quarter, much more than expected. the strength and resilience of the u.s. economy continues to be the wonder of the world. and yet you have donald trump attacking joe biden as one of the worst presidents in history. like, on what level? our military is stronger than ever before relative to the rest of the world. economically we are stronger relative to the rest of the world than any time in 40 years. the u.s. dollar is stronger than at any time it's been in the last 40 years. job has grown at a faster rate

than any time in the past 40 years. it's good news across the board. and on foreign policy, of course, the expansion of nato, it's unbelievable what's happened over the past couple years. look what's happened in asia after one president after another promised to pivot to asia, joe biden has done it. you look what he's done from guam to the philippines, south korea and japan now working together, japan expanding their military budget. you look at what's happening in australia and the strengthening of the deal that we had with nuclear subs. i mean, america is stronger today than it has been relative to the rest of the world in well over a generation. so that's what kamala harris is going to have to tell the american people when donald trump starts saying we're a stupid nation, we're a dumb nation, that our military is weak and woke. when he says that, she needs to answer back. you know what she needs do?

she doesn't need to defend the biden/harris record. she needs to defend america, because america is great. it's not stupid. it's not weak. it's not all the things that donald trump and jd vance and everybody else says it is. there's just a massive disconnect from the reality the rest of the world sees and what donald trump, jd vance and their supporters see. so let's bring in right now to talk more about this, not about what i just said, but about the news, senior national political correspondent for the "washington post" ashley parker, and author, director and academy award winning screenwriter and, as everybody knows, the founding father of "morning joe," the one, the only john ridgway. ashley, we want your hard-hitting news, but we do want to talk to the founding father of "morning joe." he has moved from his vast

hollywood estate to come grace us with his president. john ridley, it is great to see you. i've got to ask firstly, because i know there are a lot of "morning joe" viewers that always ask about you, how are you doing, first of all? >> mika, joe, it's genuinely good to see you again. i know you're kidding, but for people who don't know, i had an amazing opportunity 15 years ago to be around when you were kicking off the show. >> ridley, it was 17 years ago. >> oh my god. >> do you believe that? >> almost 18. >> we're all on the right side of the concrete. look, it was an honor and a privilege to be there then. it's amazing what you all have genuinely done with the show. it's an honor and privilege to especially be here now at a remarkable moment in history. it really is. >> john, i just want for viewers

to understand why a founding father is no longer with the show. john came to me one day and said, joe, i love this show and i love you and mika and willie, but i'm just going to tell you, i'm making way too much money, i can't stay here anymore. somebody has got to guide the brinks truck back to the house when they dump the gold bouillon in the garage every day. so there's that, john. >> i saw the way streaming was going to go. i predicted streaming. i said, you know what, let me take my burden off of comcast. let them be a peacock and fly the way they need to fly. >> that's it. >> that's very kind of you. so, john, let's talk about this particular moment in time. it's an extraordinarily historic time. the last three or four weeks

were just exhausting, i think, for everybody, because the pace of news has been coming at us so quickly. i got a text from a historian and it just had a number on it in the middle of all this, 1968. the pace is feeling like that. can you sort of put it into words about where we are as a country? >> yeah. i mean, for me, and as you know, just came out with a film called "shirley." it's about shirley chisholm. it stars the remarkable regina king. regina is phenomenal. shirley came on the scene in 1968, first black woman elected as a congressperson. she was a democrat in 1972. this is where i would frame this election for any number of reasons. 1972, shirley chisholm runs for president of the united states, only been a congressman going

into her second term. people thought she was crazy. at the same time, 1972, first year 18-year-olds could vote. 1972, the election turned on an assassination attempt. george wallace running as a democrat, if you can believe that, was actually winning most of the early primaries. in april, i believe in maryland, was shot. really changed the trajectory. allowed george wallace to get into the race. shirley chisholm went into the democratic contention controlling 200 delegates. she wasn't going to get the nomination, but she really had the power to effect change at the convention. the democrats and, crazily enough, the congressional black caucus turned against her and

blew up that coalition. 52 years later, for me, when that drumbeat and voices were getting more clear that joe biden for the sake of the country should probably step aside, my concern was that there would be some equivocation. you heard individuals like duvall patrick saying, hey, we've got a deep bench. that's great you've got a deep bench, but you've also got a player who's ready to get in the game. that's vice president harris. for somebody who just spent four years looking at a similar run, a similar moment in history, as the individual you were talking about 52 years ago the democrats now have a chance to do things differently, and they did. you can feel the energy. you can see the conversations. frankly, you can hear the fear, in my opinion, on the other side, because they don't know how to game this individual, not her record, not what she's

accomplished and not who she is. one other thing, and then i'm going to turn it over. this is the most incredible thing. we are being told this year in this cycle dei is the bogey person. it has been reported that just two days ago, congress, the republican congressional caucus, had to sit down and have a dei meeting and actually explain to their members how you interact, how you speak without being racist, sexist, misogynistic. so if dei is so awful, why do the republicans -- i'm going to use a little salty language. it's only 6:00 out here. why do grown-ass individuals have to be sat down and taught to talk to other people like human beings? of course, donald says he doesn't want to be nice anymore, so maybe it doesn't matter. to me, it's 1972, it's shirley

chisholm. the difference is democrats are behind the vice president 1,000%. >> brilliant insights. he should also know a lot's changes after he left. that's not salty language by standards now. i've lowered the bar. that's g-rated [ bleep ] right there. >> come on, joe, please. >> i'm sorry. let's raise the bar and go to jonathan lemire. >> certainly what we saw last night was a moment of history with this president deciding to step aside. you could tell from his voice and his words he still thinks he could run again. he thinks he could still win again, but he bowed to reality and in a remarkable moment hands off power and eventually in office which he has sought for most of his life. ashley, with president biden now

focused on governing, we now have a new race. it's donald trump versus kamala harris. give us your impressions and reporting of this race in its early stages, how it's going to be shaped, including by issues like dei and whether republicans are scrambling to adjust to suddenly facing harris and not biden. >> so glad that john brought up shirley chisholm, because i've been thinking a lot about her too recently, including her striking quote. she had said that being black was a hindrance in politics. she had said that being a woman was a hindrance. but she said that she felt that her gender was more of an obstacle to overcome than her race. so, you know, now kamala harris, she is a black indian-american woman. the way in which donald trump typically runs against women -- and there's a couple case studies. it's carly fiorina in the 2016

primary. there's, of course, hillary clinton. there's nikki haley in the most recent primary. on the one hand, it's worked out well for him in the sense that he's always prevailed. on the other hand, it hasn't worked out so well for him in the sense that he has a hire of racist, sexist and misogynistic comments. these are things that alienate women voters, independent voters, voters in states like pennsylvania which will be pivotal for whichever candidate wins the election. the playbook has changed a bit since 2016. there's a world in which trump calling hillary and carly fiorina these nicknames and these candidates didn't quite know how to respond. the recommendation now is with someone like kamala harris, it's eight years later and this is a post-dobbs world. so whatever he tries to throw at

her, there's a sense among democrats that, yes, she will have to reckon with sexism and racism in the country, but that she can also kind of dismiss what trump is saying and say, look, it's not about me. it's about the women of america, the people of america who want to control their bodies in a post-dobbs world and turn those attacks back on trump. the hope from democrats and the harris campaign is that it backfires. as john said, when you have republican house members having a meeting of how not to offend women and people of color, that's risky territory for republicans. >> ashley, you bring up such a great point. donald trump has always been the disrupter. he was the disrupter in 2016. you had 16 republicans on the stage just looking baffled and confused. they didn't know how to approach him. then you have him with hillary clinton during the debates trying to be a disrupter,

insulting her. everybody's just sort of frozen in place. and it really went all the way through the 2020 election where he amped up the disruption by talking about stolen elections, and then of course we saw where it all led on january 6th. ashley, you're so right. the world's changed. this is the same elvis act that we saw in 2016. in 2016, it was new, it was shocking. it was drawing people in. and opponents didn't know how to approach it. but you're so right. now, kamala harris can look back and say, okay, this is what he did to hillary, this is what he did to carly fiorina, this is what he did this year to nikki haley, this is what he's going to do to me. you're so right. it's easy for her to say donald, we've heard this all before. we've heard you insulting women now for a decade.

it just is not what this campaign is about. talk about that, how the disrupter has been disrupted by this dramatic change in the democratic party. >> that's exactly right. again, you're seeing some of those same attacks already, calling her laughin' kamala or cackling kamala. that's not to say they don't have sexist undertones or the mispronunciation of her name. it's correct that the country has seen this before and harris herself, they hope, can dismiss it with a little humor and make it about something broader, about real issues. in a post-dobbs world, that's quite easy for her. i have a new piece out this morning getting at this. who knows who harris will choose as her running mate, but i was struck by how quickly the conventional wisdom hardened to when you have a historic first on many levels at the top of the ticket that she has to choose a white person and basically a

white guy. that's not to say that she won't choose, say, a gretchen whitmore or a wes moore. it was interesting for all of the progress the nation likes to think it's made, that democrats, republicans, just about everyone says, look, you need, quote, unquote, balance. i had someone tell me she can't be the dei candidate, she can't have an all-chick ticket. joe biden explicitly pledged as an older white guy when he was running to choose a woman. he ended up choosing a black woman, an indian-american woman. diversity does matter and it doesn't mean just adding a white man to a black indian-american female ticket. but, again, it has been striking, yes, the sense that kamala harris can come back on trump for all of these attacks,

but it sure would help if there was a reassuring white guy who looked like most of our past presidents to help her out. >> "washington post" ashley parker, thank you so much for your reporting this morning. seems to me she needs to get the best person for the ticket. let's bring in elise jordan. elise, you're in wisconsin conducting various focus groups. yesterday you spoke with a group of progressive voters there. tell us what you heard from them. >> reporter: mika, we are in madison, wisconsin, and yesterday spoke to progressive voters. what has really stood out to me this trip, having just been in wisconsin a month earlier doing similar research is the sense of excitement within the field of democratic voters from the gamut of progressives to conventional

democrats. we spoke last night to progressive voters and heard how they felt about the process that happened when president biden dropped out and then the vice president became the new democratic nominee and heard about their trepidation with how it all went down, but how they do feel this is promising and they're activated and excited. we'll show you that clip now. >> how do you feel about the process in which president biden decided not to run for reelection? >> it would have been nice if he made this decision a year ago so we could have had a primary and maybe decided who we want to replace him rather than just all flocking to kamala harris. >> i think by trying to clear the field and ensure it was going to be biden and make sure

not allowing the democratic primary process -- not saying i think kamala harris is going to lose, but i think we would have benefittedted significantly if figured this out far sooner so there actually could have been more time to have internal debate, have internal democracy within the party. >> i want to hear what y'all think of vice president harris as the nominee. are you excited? >> i am. >> i am too. >> i'll own it. >> i'm fine with it. >> yes. >> i don't feel like i know a lot about her. i agree that i wish biden had come to this decision sooner, but now that we are where we are, i think that's the best option for the party. >> do you feel activated by the shift? >> hopeful. >> i feel activated. >> i don't like the process either. this whole we started the conversation with like there are people behind closed doors and curtains making the decisions for us and it's supposed to be a process. we're supposed to be part of it. that part i don't like on

principle. that being said, she's the vice president and we're late in the game and therefore we would have elected her into office by electing biden and she's there. she would have been president had he went to office and something happened, god forbid. i think what she brings is fresh. she was in office for four years. so she might not have the network, but she knows the network. she knows who the players are. >> it just gives us a chance. she can win. i'm convinced she has at least a 50/50 shot against trump. i'd love for the democrats to nominate an aoc or someone like that, but i live in the real world. again, democracy is on the line in this election. >> you think vice president harris as a much better shot of defeating donald trump? >> absolutely. >> i thought biden had a zero percent chance. >> i didn't want to vote for him, but i knew i needed to. now i want to vote for kamala. >> her arrival on the scene, i

think, is well timed. trump's camp has strategized solely around biden for so long, and this kink has been thrown into their whole program. they have a history of flailing for a long time and doing all kinds of crazy stuff. it's going to be interesting watching how they respond to her appearance on the scene as such a viable candidate. >> elise, such obvious enthusiasm there. it does seem like for so many democrats they have been utterly renewed and reengaged with this campaign now that vice president harris is at the top of the ticket. but we know from polling that for a lot of progressive voters like these, they sharply break with this white house over the israel/gaza war where president biden's support for prime minister netanyahu thinking that

he has not done enough to curb the humanitarian crisis there. what did these voters tell you about that? and do we think that sticks with harris too? >> reporter: these progressive voters are, like the polling reflects, deeply unhappy with how president biden has managed prime minister netanyahu and the war in gaza and american support for it. they are hopeful that vice president harris could have a shift in position and be firmer and be stronger while managing the relationship. and it's that premises that she could bring change, that she is going to be a continuation of democratic policies, but can perhaps smooth out some of the edges of what they don't like that gives them hope. they're energized and ready to go out and support her and get people to turn out the vote.

>> msnbc political analyst elise jordan, thank you very much. john ridley, we'll close this block out with your final thoughts. i'm curious who you'd like to see step up for kamala harris. as joe biden pointed out last night, this is about you, the american people and take the power and run with it. so who needs to step up for kamala to make this a winning campaign? >> you know, exactly as you say, mika, the people. you hear that array of madison voters. i'm from wisconsin. it's a great state and some of the most thoughtful people in america, if not the world. when you hear those young people saying, look, i don't love this process, but here's where we are, and i think this vote is going to protect democracy. when people are reminded that process matters, that civics matter, that a vote and a voice matter and they are energized

and reenergized to be part of that process, to me, that's the most important thing and saying to all individuals that voices and votes matter. as everyone has said today, in this post-dobbs world, this election is truly being driven by an issue that is most important, not singularly important, but most important to women. again, 1972 wasn't just about people of color. it was the feminist movement. women really wanted to assert their voices and were shut down then, as was mentioned, they have been shut down in almost every cycle. hillary clinton could not have been a better and more prepared candidate and was shut down. women and dobbs have driven these elections over the past few cycles, i think could continue to have people who feel like their voices don't matter get in the game. that's what matters. every single person out there, get in the game. >> john ridley, thank you. it's so good to see you again.

you can catch "shirley" streaming now on netflix. thanks, john. coming up, as vice president kamala harris looks to become the country's first female president, we're taking a look back at the woman who made history as america's first female vice presidential nominee, geraldine ferraro. her daughter will join us alongside senator amy klobuchar of minnesota. we will be right back. r of minnesota we will be right back. can't filter out the real you. so go ahead, live unfiltered with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your close-up. or finding you don't have to hide your skin just your background. once-daily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take if you're allergic to sotyktu;

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how many of those involve teenagers because of the lack of clear data. some juvenile defense attorneys are worried about the message police are sending. the times union leads with a staggering financial cost it would take to repair new york's deteriorating bridges. as of 2023, an estimated 10% of locally owned bridges across the state were in poor condition, according to data from the federal highway administration. the cost for necessary repairs is estimated around $29 billion. new york's locally owned bridges account for nearly half of the state's more than 17,000 bridge structures. the orlando sentinel has a new report on florida's improving school grades. state officials announced more public cools are earning higher marks and less f grades this year compared to 2023.

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my mother was very careful to make sure that i was not treated differently from my brother. that's what she told me in my life. you can be whatever you want to be. all you have to do is work hard. >> my fellow citizens, i proudly

accept your nomination for vice president of the united states. >> that is a clip from the 2013 documentary "geraldine ferraro paving the way." it was 40 years ago this month that she became the first vice presidential running mate for a major american political party when presidential nominee walter mondale chose her to join the democratic ticket back in july of 1984. that moment took on even more significance when kamala harris became the first female vice president nearly four years ago and is now running to become the first woman president in our nation's history. a special screening of the documentary was held yesterday in honor of the 40th anniversary of ferraro accepting the vice presidential nomination, and

following the screening a special discussion was held featuring director donna zacara who is the daughter of geraldine ferraro along with senator nancy pelosi and senators kirsten gillibrand and amy klobuchar. both donna and amy join us now. donna, i'll start with you. i remember that moment like it was yesterday, by the way. a year before your mother passed, you interviewed her many, many times. she was ill, confined to her home, and these would be her last interviews, her last conversations on the record. you also interviewed all of her close friends, former colleagues, opponents, analysts, family members. what was your mission for this? >> well, the reason i wanted to do the film obviously was to

clarify and make her legacy live on. it was for that. but also i wanted to show the premise that she had in running, actually in giving up her congressional seat in order to run, which was how she conducted herself during that campaign, even though they lost in a landslide, would a difference for what was seen as possible for women in this country, not just in politics, but in anything. i think you see that in certainly the women leaders that were there last night that were examples of how everything that came after that was really a result of being able to see women in a different light. now, of course, it took 36 years before we had a vice president who was a woman. and hopefully now we'll have a

president who's a woman and a black woman and an asian woman. my mother obviously was the first. i wanted people to know also that and the reason i thought it was important to celebrate the anniversary or bring up the anniversary was just to show the messages that were from that campaign and from that period of time that the democrats have really been fighting for a lot of the same issues for 40 years and the stark contrast between what the democrats are fighting for and what the republicans are. and then walter mondale, though he's credited obviously with putting the first woman forth on a major party ticket, what people don't know is it was really a continuation of his civil rights work. the real significance was that he was the first one to open up the vice presidential selection process to non white males. the finalists were a black male

mayor tom bradley from l.a. as well as dianne feinstein, who is a jewish woman, and gary hart, who he had beaten in the primary. >> all of this paves the way -- i always talk to women audiences, younger women, about the long runway that has been paved by women like senator geraldine ferraro. you ran for president. there are opportunities open to us every step of the way even in loss, just being there and being in the game is a big step. >> i remember when walter mondale, being from minnesota, announced geraldine ferraro, i literally remember what she was wearing, the polka dots and the white pearls. >> me too. >> i thought anything is possible. regardless of what happened, that motivated a whole bunch of young women to think i can do

this too. to think that donna planned this screening right this week months ago is kind of incredible as we look at a kamala harris. i think one of the things we talked about, speaker pelosi talked about and senator gillibrand last night was there was no challenges. if it was to easy, we could play the game name your favorite woman president. we can't. there's never been one. it just shows where we've come. i think as we prepare to -- as i do -- to help kamala get elected here, you can see the momentum, and you can kind of see this fortress of people who say enough is enough on these attacks. geraldine ferraro suffered through them, hillary did, i did, many of us. i think kamala is holding those shoulders up high and is going to march into the white house, because people are ready for

what's so come. >> they are so different from 1984. i mean, the attacks that my mother underwent as the first are very much the same. they're still talking about qualiications and credibility or toughness. i mean, i'm not sure why anybody is when you've had certainly the speaker and you still have the attacks on appearance. what else? they're already attacking her -- >> everything. it's what we've learned to deal with. the documentary "geraldine ferraro paving the way" is available on itunes. it's so good to it's so good to see you, and thank you both very much for being on this morning. >> appreciate it. >> thanks so much for having us. >> take care. we're also covering the address delivered by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to a joint session of

congress. during his speech he spoke about his vision for the future of gaza. >> the day after we defeat hamas, a new gaza could emerge. my vision for that day is of a demilitarized and deradicalized gaza. israel does not seek to resettle gaza but for the foreseeable future we must retain overriding security control there to prevent the resurgence of terror to ensure that gaza never again poses a threat to israel. gaza should have a civilian administration run by palestinians who do not seek to destroy israel. that's not too much to ask. it's a fundamental thing that we have a right to demand and to receive. [ applause ] >> i am genuinely confused and i will talk to my guests in a second about that. let's bring in right now republican congressman mike lawler of new york and also

democratic congressman josh gottheimer of new jersey. both were in the chamber for the prime minister's address. thank you, guys, for being with us. talk about what happened outside, the burning of the american flag, the american flag being taken down at union station and palestinian flag being raised and just the despicable conduct that was happening at union station. before i do that, i just can't let, even though i've been a strong supporter of israel for my entire life, i can't let the prime minister say what the prime minister said without asking you all first your reaction. when he says that gaza can never pose a threat to israel again, i think we all agree with that. unfortunately the guy who said that is a guy who told cutter -- qatar three weeks before the

invasion keep sending hundreds of millions of dollars to hamas. he knew in 2018 about hamas' ill illicit funds. i'm wondering if you guys because we have israeli officials on who say, well, they made mistakes, but they'll investigate it after the war. i'm curious, do you all have any information about why prime minister netanyahu continued to encourage qatar to give hamas funding before october 7th? >> it's good to be here. >> it's great to see you. >> either one. >> i'm on the intelligence committee so i won't get into any specifics on that, but i think to your broader point, the question is going forward. what do we do to make sure israel is secure, our key ally, our key ally in the fight against terror.

obviously we saw hezbollah firing rockets again today, attacks out of the region, not just of course on israel but at us, at our service members, our interests in the region. so i think that's what the bigger picture here is of america's national security, how do we make sure that we're secure because the foreign minister, as the prime minister quoted yesterday, israel is mainly a tool. the main war, the real war is with america. i think that should be our major focus here. >> i agree, but we also have to understand what happened, and we need to have answers on why benjamin netanyahu continued to encourage qatar to fund hamas, a terrorist organization that said they wanted to kill jews, and they wanted to wipe israel off the face of the earth. mike, respond to that if you want to, but also talk about what happened at union station and how that reveals the very nature of a lot of these organizations that were fueling

campus protests over the past year. >> yeah, just on the first part, i would say, look, obviously israel has sought to have peace with other arab nations and sought to have peace in gaza and over the last 16 years, you had eight cease fires, the last of which was violated on october 7th, and ultimately 93% of hamas's budget and funding comes from iran, and i think the prime minister's been very clear, obviously, on where he stands with respect to iran, and look, the united states obviously has had a relationship with qatar and we have been trying to work through these negotiations to get the hostages released, which is paramount in this conversation. with respect to what happened outside of the capital grounds yesterday, i think it's unconscionable, it's disgusting. it's disgraceful. when you have not just palestinian flags being raised

but you had individuals carrying flags of hamas, writing hamas in spray paint on monuments outside of union station, burning the american flag. i think as the prime minister said in his speech, these folks are useful idiots for iran, and that is something that i think really when we have this conversation discussion, people need to be focused on fact. they need to be focused on reality. hamas is the one that not only perpetrated the attack on october 7th but continues to use its own people as human shields, women, children, innocent palestinian civilians. josh and i both want the palestinian people to be free from their oppressor, but their oppressor is hamas, not israel. >> congressman gottheimer, tell us about this new legislation, this new bill you're putting forward, the terrorist payment accountability act of 2024. >> it builds on mike's point.

it says if you are going to pay your citizens to slay israelis or americans and target -- we know that the palestinian authority, the pll have been engaged in this activity, giving pension payments out to terrorists who kill, that you'll have sanctions against you, and i think it's critically important, this pay for slay legislation. it gets to the point mike was just talking about. we've got to stand up to those who are conning to perpetrate terror, and that's what all hamas has been doing. they use their own innocent people as human shields. they use hospitals. they use schools, and what we saw yesterday and i'm a huge supporter of free speech, but there's a difference between free speech and then supporting our terrorist enemies, hamas and hezbollah and burning the american flag and putting up the hamas flag. all it does is empower iran, it delays the hostages getting freed and that's what we're focused on right now, those five americans including one of my

constituents being freed and honoring the 44 americans who were killed. >> this builds on the taylor force act in 2018, which cut off economic assistance to the pa and the plo for engaging in pay to slay, and so what we're saying here is that these sanctions would apply to anyone or any institution that helps facilitate those pay to slay payments to terrorists who want to go kill jews, and -- >> it's literally like a chart. there's literally a payments chart depending upon what kind of terrorist killing you do. you get paid more money to your families, right? and that's insane. >> it's unconscionable, and that's what this is about is cutting off the source, the sources of funding that help promote and continue terrorism in the region. we all want peace. we want this to end, and as i've said repeatedly, the fastest way for this to stop is for hamas to

surrender and release all the hostages. >> get the hostages home. >> exactly. bring the hostages home. thank you so much, josh gottheimer and republican congressman mike lawler, always love having you guys on. thank you so much for being with us. that does it for us this morning, ana cabrera picks up the coverage in 90 seconds. rera the coverage in 90 seconds help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. what does a robot know about love? it takes a human so to translateow. that leap in our hearts into something we can see and hold. etsy.

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