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root causes, you could say she stopped short there but it's not as if she did nothing. she had one trip with honduras. but really there have been no new investments with this strategy, even though the president of mexico has asked for money from the united states. jose. >> and you know, the president of mexico has been asking for more money from the united states, for all kinds of issues, and that's something that will continue probably going forward. julia ansley, great seeing you. i thank you so very much. that wraps up the hour for me, i'm jose diaz-balart, you can reach me on social media @jd balart. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news next. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," president biden paving the way for vice
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president kamala harris to become the democratic party's standard-bearer in a deeply personal address to the nation. >> nothing, nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy. that includes personal ambition. so, i decided the best way forward, is to pass the torch a new generation. it's the best way to unite our nation. >> mr. biden is holding a high-stakes meeting today with benjamin netanyahu, after the prime minister's defiant speech to congress. >> no matter how long it takes, no matter how difficult the road ahead, israel will not relent, israel will not bend. on the campaign trail today, the vice president staying on offense against former president trump in a speech to america's largest teachers union. >> we are in a fight for our most fundamental freedoms.
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and to this room of leaders, i say bring it on. [ applause ] bring it on. ♪♪ while the republican nominee back on the trail, unloading a blistering attack against his likely new opponent. >> lying kamala harris has been the ultra liberal driving force behind every single biden catastrophe. she is a radical left lunatic who will destroy our country. if she ever gets the chance to get into office -- you're not going to let that happen. ♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. an hour from now, president biden is going to start trying to complete one of his remaining top priorities that he said last night he wants to finish before leaving office. ending the war in gaza, bringing
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the hostages home. he'll go head to head this afternoon with israel's defiant prime minister benjamin netanyahu just after the president at times poignant remarks in his oval office last night and his time is running out and ending his election campaign making a personal sacrifice for the country. mr. bide insisting now is the time for newer, fresher voices. >> the defense of democracy is at stake. it's more important than any title. the thing about america is here. kings and dictators do not rule. but people do. history is in your hands. the power's in your hands. the idea of america lies in your hands. >> the president's family watching from inside the oval office. his wife grabbing daughter ashley's hands at times. the first lady later sharing a handwritten personal note writing to those who never
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waivered, to those who refused to doubt, to those who refuse to believe, my heart is full of gratitude. and the vice president is expected to officially become the nominee as soon as next week in a virtual dnc roll call. the party giving her until august 7th to pick a running mate. and an nbc news former president obama is expected to give his endorsement to kamala harris, delaying his endorsement so he did not step on the president's speech last night. we begin with peter alexander and yamiche alcindor. the president is laying out a lame duck agenda and starting today. >> reporter: that's right, andrea, the issues that the president hopes to focus on in the next six months, trying to get a cease-fire and return of hostages including the american
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hostages is high on that list. my conversation with those in the new harris campaign and inside the new white house, they recognize what a difference that could make to smooth the path with the harris residency, given the concerns that this issue, the continued fighting, the civilian casualties in gaza has created, particularly among the democratic progressive base right now. the president is expected to visit with benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister, now within the next hour. when netanyahu arrives here, that's the start of what will be a busy afternoon for netanyahu. at 2:30 as you've been reporting in detail, this unprecedented visit will take place here with not just netanyahu and biden. but the families of those american hostages, many of whom are very disappointed in the message that they heard from netanyahu yesterday, as he spoke to that joint meeting of congress. and then this afternoon when kamala harris, the vice president, arrives back here in washington, d.c., she will also meet with prime minister netanyahu with a particular
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focus on that conversation, where reporters will be previously allowed in the room for is described as a pool spray to get a short moment with the two. because if there is to be a future president harris, where she may signal any potential differences and daylight between her and joe biden could be particularly critical. i'm told by those people within this white house, that the president today is expected to take a bit of a tougher tone to try to assert new pressure on benjamin netanyahu, to allow this deal to go forward, with the deal. they believe, according to a senior administration official, that they are getting closer to closing this deal. and will try to get rid of any obstacles to that in hopes that netanyahu will finally agree to such a thing. based on the language you heard yesterday in the speech, there's a lot of concern and a lot of disappointment as well. >> disappointment, in fact, he may have been briefed with his top aides last week that it was going to be a more conciliatory,
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unifying speech. but there could be changes. there were a lot of changes. there were changes on the ground. there was that horrible attack in tel aviv from the iron-backed houthis. certainly, that speech he was thundering and not giving anything. and peter, yamiche is joining us as well. let's talk about the vice president's speech. she has had meeting with netanyahu after she comes back from houston. and that's really important as she's trying to show, quite frankly, her foreign policy chaums. and she has, as peter just alluded to, she's had what is considered a more empathetic stance towards the palestinian civilians, towards the death toll, than has the president himself. >> that's right, i mean, this year, she had that really remarkable speech that went viral in selma, alabama, at the edmund pettus bridge, where she
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talked about the civilian casualty. a number of people said she was sounding more sympathetic, empathetic to the deaths. with that being said, there's an issue to deal with which is the biden/harris administration and she is on board with the policies of this administration as regards israel. i'd like to talk about the veepstakes if we can, andrea, there's a number of people on the list that we're watching very closely. among them a source tells me roy cooper is on the list. another top contends, josh shapiro of pennsylvania and mark kelly of arizona, and gretchen whitmer though she said she does not want to be the vice president's running mate. tim walz, andy beshear, and transportation secretary pete buttigieg, as well as jd pritzer of illinois. today, she as released the first official harris campaign video set to the beyonce song
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"freedom" and in it, she said, i want to read it, there are some people who think we should be a country of chaos and fear. for us, we choose freedom. leaning into that she's choosing a different vision of america than the republicans. she was in houston a couple minutes ago talking to the american federation of teachers convention. it's a major teachers union. and talking about the unions built the middle class. she said when unions are great, america is great. she also talked about the fact that republicans want to ban books and democrats want to ban assault weapons. so she was really leaning on the fact there is also the safety issue that teachers deal with in this country. and as you and peter noted, she's dealing with prime minister benjamin netanyahu later. and a statement that protesters burned a flag in washington, d.c. i want to read it, she said we
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saw despicable acts of unpatriotic protesters and dangerous hate-fueled rhetoric. pro-hamas graffiti is abhorrent. and these putting out that that she's weighing in and fighting the foreign policy. >> and, yamiche, talking about anti-semitism, he is jewish, and partly jewish -- she identifies that way, celebrates the holidays with him and his children. there are a lot of ways to try to balance the criticism she's not been as hard line in support of netanyahu, when lots of democratic leaders incluing chris murphy this morning and others were critical of that speech yesterday, yamiche. >> certainly, i spoke to the second gentleman earlier this year. and he laid out his vision how to deal with this issue which, of course, mirrors the
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administration view of this. and pushing for anti-semitism in this country and for people to not have prejudice. but he also said he was against islamophobia. and made a point that people need to be respectful of all religions in that conversation. he's also talking about lgbtq rights. when you talk to vice president harris as well as second gentleman doug imoff, and their aides, they're laying out this idea that american they're looking at a different kind of america and that is a america that restricts people and freedom. >> and peter, before you go, we should also point out that netanyahu, after these meetings with harris, with the hostage families which is owe unusual, with the president, he's going to mar-a-lago. and, you know, former president trump is saying today that he wants to get this deal concluded quickly. and saying that israel is -- is
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not being fairly treated. in the media. is. >> yeah. >> defending israel but also saying he wants to get the deal done. it's hard to see until we see this meeting tomorrow where it's going to come down and how that might influence closure on this. >> reporter: i think you're exactly right. we heard netanyahu with outreach to former president trump during his speech yesterday before congress. also a lot of praise on president biden here. clearly his focus is indeed with the biden campaign, the biden white house, excuse me, is trying to accomplish based on his public comments yesterday. i'm going to be in the oval office with netanyahu and president biden and we'll report out anything we hear from them and public comments the two will share with us. >> if anyone can get them to react, peter, it's you. >> i'll try. >> yamiche, great reporting, appreciate it. here with me is former dnc chairwoman and congresswoman
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from florida debbie wasserman schultz. after the whole speech, everything i was watching, i was watching the president's speech, it was so poignant, so personal, self-effacing, remarkable, really, in that remarkable moment. i was trying to get myself into that and think about that. and not just thinking about my next headline because it was beautifully written. >> it was the epitome of who joe biden is as a human, as a leader and as the president of our nation. i mean, he really in his heart showed us how he felt, his patriotism, his selflessness. i mean, in modern times -- and even back to history, you can't point to many times when a president of the united states, someone who already has the office, decides that it's in the best interest of the country for
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him to pass the torch. even though he knew that he could -- and believed that he could move forward and still lead. and lead us across the finish line. >> and it's very clear, the poignancy was that he believed that he could have done it. he was doing this reluctantly because of the pressure. >> that's right. >> from the house and senate. before we move on, i want to ask you about kamala harris. >> yeah. >> you know, there was some criticism in jewish circles that she was not strongly enough identified. but from what i read and talking to them, i've traveled with her at foreign policy conferences. i don't think that's where she's at. and her husband has been very actively campaigning against anti-semitism. >> i have had conversations with it's vice president an israel. i'm a show me person, not a tell me person. she has a strong pro-israel
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voting record from the united states senate. she has stood alongside president biden. they advanced and put together the proposal to bring the hostilities to an end, to get the hostages home, to end the terrorist threat that lives on israel's door step. and that agreement needs to be concluded, so we can get those hostages home and make sure that the safety and security of the israeli people and free the palestinians from hamas as well. i'm fully confident in kamala harris' support for the u.s. relationship and her characterization of ridding this nation of the scourge of anti-semitism that she and president biden have through anti-semitism. >> clearly, the president wants to accomplish this as his legacy but as if he does accomplice,
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it's a huge anchor. the protesters were not typical of the protesters that were out yesterday. there were many different types of groups. and the protesters that have shown up at campaign rallies. >> quite frankly, the protesters that we saw yesterday and that we've seen in coordinated, organized, professional protests are fueled, as we saw, in recent news reports, by the funding from iran and iran proxies. we know where this is coming from. i was proud that the vice president issued a statement strongly condemning the protests, their message, their support for hamas and terrorist organizations. this is just another example where kamala harris is and will be, as president of the united states, strongly standing in the right place in support of u.s. and israel's relationship against anti-semitism, and using
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the authority of her office and her voice, to make sure that people understand that is not acceptable in the united states. >> that said, she's got a big decision to make choosing a vice president. it's supposed to be someone who is ready to step in, and, you know, arguably, a lot of the people on this list are qualified, certainly, have more experience than some of the vice presidential we've had in the past. even this year. is the country ready to election a democratic nominee with a running mate who is jewish? you've got josh shapiro in pennsylvania. and jd pritzer. >> you know, i don't think the demographics of voters are going to be in front of voters. right now, we have a contrast that couldn't be more clear in front of the american people. voters, i think, will choose
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kamala harris and her running mate because they want to make sure we can continue to move forward with someone who has created 15 million jobs alongside joe biden, fought to keep our country safe. >> does the battleground state make a difference? >> but that's contrasted. it certainly makes a difference in battleground states, especially, because we've got the trump campaign who has been surrounded and promoting chaos, catastrophe and culture wars. and we have kamala harris and whoever her running mate is from our deep bench of leaders that will make sure we can move forward, and prioritize, protecting people's fights as she said in her video this morning which was so well done and so clear. we have to make sure that we fight for people's rights, that we make sure we take care of the american people. that we reduce prescription drug costs. take sure that the quality of life that they've been enjoying and progressing, that we have a president that has their back,
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and she will. >> debbie wasserman schultz, thank you. the president's meeting with president biden and the prime minister today. after some expressed disappoint in the speech to congress. we'll talk about a hostage whose husband is still being held in gaza. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." ports. ahhh...ooh. look, no line at the hot dog stand. yes! only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty.♪ why use 10 buckets of water when you can use 1 fire extinguisher. and to fight heartburn, why take 10 antacids throughout the day when you can take 1 prilosec. for easier heartburn relief, one beats ten. prilosec otc. one pill. 24 hours. zero heartburn. with bugs, the struggle-is-real. that's why you need zevo traps. zevo works 24/7 to attract and trap flying insects.
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a day after a fiery speech in front of congress, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu is going to meet with president biden in about 45 minutes from now. he and the president hold an unprecedented meeting with americans still being held hostages -- excuse me, among those, aviva siegel who knows the horror that hostages have been experienced. she and her husband were taken from a kibbutz in israel. after a temporary cease-fire deal, that was the last deal. her husband, 65-year-old keith, just celebrated another birthday in may. he's an american from north carolina, still being held, aviva siegel joins me now. aviva, we've talked before here and in tel aviv, it's so good to see you. so, what do you want to say to
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prime minister netanyahu this afternoon? >> i want to ask him why is he here in the states? he needs to be in israel. there's a deal to be signed, and he needs to sign the deal. he shouldn't be here while his country is in such a disaster and needs him. >> what did you think of the speech? i know you didn't go, correct? >> i didn't go to the speech. and to tell you the truth, it breaks my heart, any time to hear that he wants to win. and you know, i want to tell everybody that keith is with hamas. so if he wants to win hamas and kill hamas, that means he will kill keith, too. because keith is with them. >> you want him to stop? you don't want him to finish and get the leaders? >> i'm against killing. i'm against wars. the only thing that should be in life should be love. >> what more do you think the
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united states could do? because president biden is going to be in this meeting. >> i want to say that if bibi netanyahu does not bring keith home sand move any of the hostages home, i want to ask biden to bring keith home. keith san american. his mom is 97. she's still alive. she does not know that keith is in captivity. but keith does know that he wants to come home and give her a hug. he's waiting for that. he said that's the first thing he wants to do, to come to america and to hug this mom. so, i want to ask biden, if bibi is not able to do that, biden should bring the americans home. >> you're talking about an american rescue mission? >> huh? >> you're talking about it would have to be a military operation, an american rescue operation in
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gaza? >> i don't want anybody to be killed. but i know that keith is in such danger, when the videos were released i could not see it because i could not see the sadness in his eyes. sigh heard he heard the bombs just like i did. i used to pray all the time, just don't let the ceiling fall on me this time. please, god, if something happens, let me die before keith. i am so worried about keith, and i'm so worried about more than 100 hostages. i know the conditions. it's so cruel what they're going through. >> what netanyahu would say is that hamas started this war. they massacred more than 1200 people, israelis. but you would let them stay in their tunnels, the leader, and find another solution, have a new government that you could try to create that secretary
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blinken is trying to create? >> i'm not -- i do not want to talk about anything that's politics. i want to talk about human. keith is human. he's got a heart. and it's cruel what he's going through. he's thrown in a corner on a mattress, just like a rat. he needs to get out of there and over 100 hostages there are there in those conditions. we just heard about four of them that came out, and one of them just said that he was tied up, his legs, with chains, for months. and we want treated like people. they -- i saw the way they acted and treated us. >> there's a lot of concern about the women. you talked about the way the young women were treated, the assaults. >> i want everybody just to imagine, any girl that's a young girl that's never been touched. she's lying on a mattress, on
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the floor, and just praying, please, just that he won't come this time and do what he did yesterday. and that's what's happening there. but i want to tell you, the girls touched, keith threatened in such a brutal way, they didn't behave, even though we behaved, and we did everything we were told. we were so good. and they were so bad to us. i used to say to myself, how come, how come? how come they're so bad, the terrorists? the hamas people? i don't understand. and i don't understand how keith is still there for 293 days. thrown on a mattress. because it's so cruel. it's just too cruel to be underneath the ground, not even having aid. not even knowing if you're going to live or if you'll ever come back to israel. because that's what happened to me.
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i used to lose my hope there and just wanted to die. because we went through bad things and then worse things. and then worse things. and i'm very worried. i'm very, very worried. i do not want keith to come back dead. and i want all hostages to come back as soon as possible. because we have had more and more of them that are killed. >> aviva siegel, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> i honor your resilience. >> thank you. thank you so much. we need to get them back. >> thank you for expressing it. >> and i want good for the whole world. and for the gaza people that are good. everybody needs to live and be happy. thank you. >> thank you. and we'll be right back.
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in his first campaign rally since president biden dropped out of the race, former president trump unloaded on vice president kamala harris his most likely opponent. in front of a crowd in north carolina, saying he's not going to nice anymore and calling harris more liberal than bernie sanders. >> for 3 1/2 years, the lying kamala harris has been the ultimate driving force behind every single biden catastrophe. she's a radical left lunatic. if borders stay in charge, every week will bring another week of illegal rapists, bloodthirsty killers and child predators to go after her sons and daughters. >> ashley parker and brendan buck, former top communications advisers to speakers.
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i've been around long enough to know when the first president bush was criticized for calling president trump a bully? >> donald trump, no holds barred against a woman candidate, there's just no strategy, to see what works against her? >> yeah, looking at she's relatively undefined even though she's been in public life for a long time. if he wants to continue to miss pronounce the democratic nominee, i can guarantee every women will come out to vote. the immigration issue is a real one. whether you want to call her a border czar or not, she clearly had a role in the immigration policy of the administration and that has been a failure. i think there are real substantive things you can go
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after but we've been trying to look at this trump campaign perhaps a little more disciplined than in the past. and it seems to be going all out the window. if this goes back to trump that everybody felt was so chaotic and such a bad symbol for the united states, it's playing into harris' hands. so i think she's a potentially flawed candidate in a lot of ways, but they're really missing the mark by making it so nasty and personal, i think. >> and ashley, jd vance can't seem to get past his 2021 comment denigraing kamala harris and others being childness. his first wife is defending her and saying she was a co-parent. she's a big part of their family, as their kids, as jennifer aniston slammed vance. saying mr. vance, i pray that your daughter is fortunate
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enough to bear children one day. i hope she will not need to turn to ivt f because you are trying to take that away from her, too. >> it just seems, ashley, you've got two kids. you're a lucky ones, sometimes, there are not even choices, sometimes there are choices for couples. >> of course. right. i have two wonderful daughters and then one wonderful stepdaughter. so, first of all, i can say from personal experience that it is very impressive, putting politics aside that endorsement of being a wonderful step parent from your partner's ex is not necessarily an easy one to get. blended families, millions of americans have been in a complicated relationship. so that's first off. secondly, you know, the comments jd vance made, you've seen a lot of people come out and talk about struggles with infertility and getting pregnant and miscarrying and it alienates all of those, not just women, but
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men who deal with the same struggles and the heartbreak as well. and that it's worth noting that there's plenty of people, men and women, who actively choose not to have children. that it's a deliberate choice. and it's a totally fine and wonderful choice for them. and it also alienates them. so, it's the sort of comment that really has the potential to offend huge swaths of people across the country. >> brendan, i was going to ask you about project 2025 and donald trump trying to distance himself from it. but let me ask you, as someone around the hill for a long time, and a republican, former republican, what did you think of president biden's speech last night? >> still a republican, believe it or not. look, i think it was an important moment. a lot of us wanted to hear from him when he first announced, you know, why -- why they did this through a press release and a
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tweet. this is a powerful moment for america. and what it speaks to, somebody giving up power is a rare moment. we don't see it very often. and i think he rose to the occasion in a way that we can all be really proud. we now have a clean slate. i don't think people liked the choice that we had and hopefully we can get to the issues. >> ashley parker, brendan buck, thanks, great to see you. the director of the fbi unveiling aspects of the investigation into the attempt of former president trump's life that were not answered by the secret service former leader. a top democrat joins me next. but, first, join us on an msnbc live democracy 2024, you'll hear thought-provoking conversations about the ever changing critical election as we try to make sense of this historic moment together. just opened up a whole new block of tickets.
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but it's under siege from big out-of-state media companies and hedge funds. now, california legislators are considering a bill that could make things even worse by subsidizing national and global media corporations while reducing the web traffic local papers rely on. so tell lawmakers, support local journalism, not well connected media companies. oppose ab 886. paid for by ccia. the senate is now joining the house in launching a bipartisan investigation into the assassination attempt against former president trump. as fbi director chris wray revealed a number of new details in the capitol hill hearing yesterday including the possibility that the former president may not have suffered a direct hit from the beauty,
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but instead from shrapnel that may have grazed his ear. mr. trump has not released hi medical records after being treated at a pennsylvania hospital. mr. wray also revealing that the shooter did a google search how war away was oswald from kennedy, and offered one explanation for why he wasn't caught sooner. >> weapon that he used for the attempted assassination was an ar-style rifle that was purchased legally. we haven't yet found anybody with first hand observation of him with the weapon walking around beforehand. >> in fact, it was a collapsable rifle stock. joining us now is jim hines, democrat from connecticut. good to see you, congressman. how concerned are you about the failures, security failures,
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speaker johnson is now saying that the fbi corrector chris wray has a credibility problem after that testimony. i'm not sure why he would be going after chris wray, he was trying to dot investigation based on the investigation of everything else that's going on in guantanamo -- excuse me, in quantico, at fbi headquarters in the research labs. but you tell me, you're following this more closely, i guess. >> yeah, i didn't see the speaker's comments but it's all part of the republican party doing their best to dismantle america's faith in institutions like the department of justice, like the fbi, like the secret service which, by the way, isn't to say that accountability shouldn't be visited on the secret service where the failure was obvious. but to start saying chris wray with whom i met this morning is somehow not doing his job is just irresponsible. the moment that the american people lose faith in the fbi, in
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the department of justice and the federal government which of course is the goal of the republican majority here that's when we have anarchy in this country. what i can tell you, i spoke with chris wray this morning. their investigation is ongoing. they have learned a lot from the standpoint of intelligence committee of which i'm the ranking member. i can tell you, as of yet, there's absolutely no evidence that there was any foreign nexus here. that this is a terrorist element by foreign elements. and what exactly what motivated this guy and why he did. >> this is probably unlikely, but is an opportunity, given what, you know, the horror we believe that donald trump went through, and his family and all the people who care deeply about him, is it's an opportunity to talk an opportunity to talk about doing something about these military-style weapons? >> well, i hate to say it, andrea. i've gotten cynical on this
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question, my home is 25 miles from the sandy hook elementary school. >> right. >> when 26 children were killed by adam lanza. and again, i don't want to speak about the elements of the shooter in butler, pennsylvania, another young, alienated young guy. when that happened in sandy hook, connecticut, i thought the murder of 26 kindergartners would be certainly enough to galvanize this institution to do something about the red access of military-style weapons and, of course, nothing happened. i hate to say it my friends in the republican party are so beholden to the nra, to absolutely no change to firearms it's still going to be a heck of a slog. even though their guy was almost killed. >> at the time, president biden cried in the briefing room, we thought it was going to change the whole dynamic. let's talk about the 2024 politics briefly, because dmrs
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kamala harris is looking for a running mate. you've done the kind of deep work that the intelligence committee does. is a week or so enough time to pick a vice president, when we've seen in the past really under qualified people chosen and they had to pay a price during the rollout? >> yeah, i'm happy to say, not on my side of the aisle, we don't have kite a sarah palin experience in the democratic party. look, i don't have any particular insight into what the vice president's people are doing. all of the names that have been bandied about, you know, are by and large governors and senators who have obviously been a long time in the public eye, are qualified, have run states or spent time in the united states senate. you know, what's happening right now is just all kinds of work to make is sure there's not a financial issue. to make sure there's nothing in the background of these individuals that ultimately could, as you suggest, rise out of nowhere to embarrass the presidential candidate. >> congressman jim hines, it's a
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combative speech to congress insisting he would continue the war until hamas is eliminated, a goal his own military says is not possible. his appearance drew thousands of protesters including some praising hamas and threatening jews. police used pepper spray against some and there were 23 arrests, nearly half of democratic lawmakers skipped the address. harris also declined to preside in her usual place for such a speech. she was out of town. joining me now, "new york times" diplomatic correspondent michael crowley and "washington post" white house, welcome both. you both focused in your reporting on how kamala harris, if she were elected, might approach the middle east differently than joe biden given his decades of experience with israel and also his full embrace of netanyahu, far longer than many democrats, elected democrats and protesters thought
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was appropriate given the way the war has been progressing. michael. >> yeah, andrea. president biden does have that bond, and you know, i think at least until recently, he considered netanyahu something of a friend, albeit one with whom he disagreed a lot. and kamala harris just doesn't have that bond. she's younger so she comes maybe not entirely from a different generation, but attitudes towards israel have changed, and as one jewish american conservative put it to me, she just doesn't feel the connection the way biden does in her kishkas, which is a word for guts, your stomach, your belly. and so i think -- and then on top of that, andrea, harris came out and said some very sharply critical things about israel's management of this military campaign in gaza, and i think
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empathized with the suffering and death of civilians in gaza in a way that people felt president biden just wasn't able to do. he didn't muster the same kind of sympathy and outrage that he did over the october 7th attacks, whereas i think harris felt genuine to people. i know she starts with a clean slate because she's still associated with the policy. i think it does lift some of the stigma that president biden had with a lot of progressive voters over this issue. >> and yasmin, i think partly from my reporting and i was deeply into this about three weeks into the war, there was that attack on the refugee camp using bunker buster 2,000 pound american-made bombs, and the israelis said they were going after one hamas terrorist. i don't know what they got, but you know, arguably so many people died in this refugee camp, and that's when that -- those pictures around the world
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turned europe, maybe predisposed to be against, the u.n. -- that's when the mood around the world turned, but it was not when president biden dealt with it. >> i think that's exactly right, andrea. i know from your reporting, from my reporting as well, that inside the white house u.s. officials, the refugee camp bombing, israel had bombed that camp several times in a single week, like you said, to take out a single mid-level hamas commander, and the u.s. thought that was an unacceptable tradeoff, the number of civilian lives, hundreds of civilians killed to take out a single mid-level commander, and we know that that's when they started to think israel was not really thinking about proportionality in the way that the u.s. would make these assessments in their own sort of counterterrorism operations overseas, but i think just like you said, even though there are many of these points
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internally where we know the u.s., president biden, and his senior aides were feeling that this war was not being prosecuted in a way that they thought was appropriate, it took them a long time to say that publicly, and i had a story about the way vice president harris has sort of pushed internally on the israel gaza war, and she, i think, has often been the first sort of high ranking top ranking administration official to come out and say israel needs -- she said israel has a right to defend itself, but it needs to think about how she was the first person to sort of mark that change of tone at the end of november. she has talked about, like michael said, the suffering in gaza, civilian casualties, starvation, humanitarian disaster playing out on the ground, and much more everyone -- empathetic and visceral terms. i don't think it's clear whether she would call for a significant change in policy from president biden, but i think there were a number of people who were not
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going to vote for the president who at least are open to vice president harris. some of them will already vote for her because she speaks about it differently. i think many others are waiting to see what she comes out with. does she call for a change in policy, so they have at least an open mind to her whereas they had completely written the president off. >> michael crowley and yasmeen as mu ta la, this is a moving target in terms of our reporting and in terms of her policy. thank you both so much. and before we go, tomorrow we get ready for some fun. we're going to enjoy the 2024 olympics owning ceremony. first lady jill biden arriving in paris this morning leading a delegation that includes politicians and olympians, brian boitano and dawn staley. today the first lady spoke at an event for team us family members and met with athletes at the team's training center. tomorrow catch the opening ceremony of the game at 7:30 eastern on nbc and streaming on peacock, and that does it for us
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good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. right now high stakes for two political legacies and the