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>> tonight on the reidout. >> we have to decide, do we still believe in honesty, freedom, respect, justice, and democracy. >> do we believe in the promise of america? and are we ready to fight for it? >> you know, they go crazy when they say the late, great hannibal lector. okay? they say why would you mention hannibal lector? he must be cognitively in trouble. >> the stark contrast between biden's humility, harris's hope, and trump. also, the misogyny and attacks on gender and jd vance's attack on childless americans and the energy of american women. i am michael steele. we begin tonight with the stark and somewhat cartoonish contrast between the presidential race.
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especially now that the torch has been passed. that was a message from president biden speaking directly to the american people about his decision to leave the race and endorsed vice president kamala harris as his successor. he did it for the love of his country. now, well president biden put humility ahead of humerus, donald trump, as we all know by now, only loves himself so he took the route of denigration and division. on social media, he used one of his insult nicknames to criticize president biden's speech while one of his senior advisers mocked biden with a photo trump watching the speech. meanwhile, at a rally in north carolina, donald trump showed in real time how the ground has shifted for republicans as he tried out some incoherent attacks on his new opponent vice president kamala harris including repeatedly mispronouncing her name and trying out a recycled insult or two.
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>> so, now, we have a new victim to defeat. lying kamala harris. lying kamala harris has been the ultraliberal driving force between every single biden catastrophe. lying come allah is also a total radical on a word called -- you know this, right -- a word called abortion. she is running away from israel. netanyahu is in washington. she is totally against the jewish people. and just like raqqa joe biden, kamala harris is unfit to lead. she is unfit to lead. >> so i would think that kamala harris being totally against the jewish people will come as a bit of news to the second gentleman who is her husband. anyway, we will move on. donald trump doubled down on his attacks on vice president
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harris in an interview on fox news this morning. taking offense to her speech this week calling him accurately a predator and a cheater. >> they say, sir, be nice. you just got hit with a bullet. maybe he has changed. be nice and i would love to be nice but i am dealing with real garbage. >> the harris campaign clap back at his ranch releasing a response entitled a statement on a 78-year-old criminal's fox news appearance. that is just one of the signs that have jolted the energy and the de facto democratic nominee kamala harris to the top. she is bringing that energy to the race and of the president rollout continues today, vice president harris is reintroducing herself to american voters with a new message and some help from one of the biggest superstars on the planet. a campaign video highlighting the issues at stake in this
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election is set to beyonci's anthem "freedom." >> in this election, we each face a question. what kind of country do we want to live in. there are some people who think we should be a country of chaos, of fear, of hate. but, us, we choose something different. we choose freedom. >> that message was also underscored in a speech the vice president gave today in houston to the american federation of teachers. one of several unions to endorse harris this week. >> in this moment, we are in a fight for our most fundamental freedoms. and, to this room of leaders, i say bring it on. bring it on.
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>> joining me now is cornell belcher, democratic strategist and msnbc political analyst in sarah matthews, former trump white house deputy press secretary. well, folks, i do not know about you all, but bring it. it has been brought. it has been brought. it has been one of the most, and both of you knowing political seasons and how they flow, but with any political season, have you ever seen, cornell, this kind of turnaround and energy focused direction 180 degrees from where we were a week ago today? >> it is remarkable. we are in uncharted waters. i have never seen anything like this. and i texted two members of congress two days ago. they felt the same way. we were hoping for the best, but this is beyond what we thought how quickly the party
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coalesced around her. but, look. if you look at the energy and stuff happening on social media organically and at the grassroots, michael, i have not seen anything like this since '08. >> i am glad he went there. i tell you why i am glad he went there. i said and had been saying since this whole thing started, this could be bigger than '08. i am sorry but that ain't my issue.. be bigger than '08 because of the level of energy that we see here. have you seen this, number one, and response to republicans seems to be a little bit flat- footed. caught offguard. >> i think they are caught off guard by the shift in energy that her campaign has brought. look, if you go on tiktok, youth americans are excited for that. gen z, it is so exciting for them to get excited about a
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candidate because i do not think they have seen that. they were either being born during 2008 or they do not understand what we are feeling and it harkens back to this type of energy but they are unfamiliar with it. it is so refreshing to see them making all these different edits and getting excited about her candidacy because we know the majority of americans and in particular the youth vote they were not excited to turn out for donald trump and joe biden. they do not want this rematch and i think they are feeling it. i would have never thought if you would have told me four years ago that i will be excited for a kamala harris candidacy that i would have had a brain aneurysm. >> sarah and i are in a very weird space right now and it is a good space. we have seen the ugliness that has been trotted out. not just against this particular democratic candidate. but just against the democracy itself. the sort of tearing down of institutions. the lack of trust that is
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created and certainly the insurrection against our government. to that point that you made about younger voters, they had largely checked out for a whole host of reasons weather was israel, and we will talk about that a little later in the program, but now they see to your point to be checking back in. is it the host aspect? is it the, maybe this really will be different. it is not just two old white guys running. how do you see that energy? >> i do think she is bringing a sense of hope with her candidacy. with joe biden, it felt like a lot. if you look at the way he was campaigning, he was focused on his record, but it did not necessarily feel like he was talking about a vision for the future and what the next four years would look like. the younger americans are excited for a candidate who will be articulating a future for a future that they will be living in as morbid as that sounds. so they know this is something different and it is exciting to have a candidate that is
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diverse. who is speaking more to them. i love how her campaign is leaning into the meme culture and the tiktok. that seem to be resonating with gen z. and if you look at the makeup of who will be voting in this next election, i believe more than half of the electorate will be comprised of millennial's engine see. and so it is important to get them energized so they are not staying on the couch. and it seems like her being at the top of the ticket has given that 180 shift in the momentum. she has momentum on her side. she just has to keep it up for the next 100 days or so. >> so there is hope. right? and is there energy that come from hope? but then there is the practical aspects of standing up on a presidential campaign with 100 days left, which will be this sunday. putting in place a vice presidential nominee who has to be somehow aligned with you.
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okay. we are just meeting this like speed dating but go with it. how do you assess the practical aspects going into the convention? the vote of the democratic party on august 1st i believe work 7th. around that time frame. soon for the delegates. how do you see that stacking up practically and what that may mean to the momentum? >> we are campaign hacks around the stable here. looking at the perspective of the campaign, luckily for her she can inherit the biden infrastructure on the campaign. a lot of people did not think they were very good on carrying a message, especially a message forward, but they had built up infrastructure. they did have offices and ground teams in the battleground states. looking to expand the battleground states. so the infrastructure is there. and i will steal this line from chuck todd. the vice president is the most famous unknown person in the
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world. and only she could do this. right? because right now they all know her but it initially filling in the gaps. filling in the spaces of her back story and who she is. and i think they will do a lot of that in the convention. and, look, some of the super pac have already started. now with a $50 million by setting up this contract. look at the infrastructure and the ungodly amounts of money they are raising in like what? 48 hours? it is stuff we did not see in '08. but it is sort of that energy and comparison that is going on. i think when you look at the infrastructure and the money and how aggressive they are, going after more states, i think she will be fine. >> something else, too, that is
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really important is they need to be aggressive early on because we saw during the trump campaign during the primaries how they define ron desantis in his candidacy. he was not a great candidate but before he even entered into the primary, they had ari kind of ruined his candidacy because they spent tens of millions of dollars defining him and turning voters off to him so that is why it is important they are out there and making the case. how they are sort of defining occurs they are saying she is a san francisco liberal. she is ultraliberal. and i think the way to combat that will be with her vice president pick. i think the smartest case as mark kelly or josh shapiro. he is my personal favorite. he gives you that balance to a ticket with a little bit more of a moderate democrat and they need to be aggressive with their advice. i saw a tweet the other day from a friend of mine who lives in philly who said he was watching the phillies game and he saw three trump ads all attacking kamala harris. and there were zero pro -kamala
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ads, and zero anti-trump ads. >> good point. look, the trump campaign may have been caught a little bit flat-footed as far as the process and how it unfolded in the sudden gravitational shift in the political space towards kamala and the democratic side, but they at least were quick, to sarah's point, to turn the spigot for some quick adds to say she is a san francisco liberal. the 1980s were like their ad by. so this idea of the san francisco liberal is clearly a sign that you do not quite know what to do. >> andy lying kamala thing. >> okay. >> they are also sort of panicking and i understand why. in like three or four days, most of the national polling out there died again. all the sudden battleground states are in a tossup.
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>> we have got a little bit more states in play from your analysis since this transformation began. >> if you look at the energy. if the blue wall is cool, i think they can go on the offense. i do like them going offensively and trying to get more states in play. like how obama got it. the more states you put in play, the more you got the 270, the better off you are. >> real quick, sarah, what strategy do you think grassroots activists should be looking at in terms of their organizing in some of the battleground states? how do you see that coming together? >> yeah. it seems like she really has activated black americans and black women in particular. they are very excited about her candidacy and that will be very instrumental in getting movement on the ground. i think, too, in terms of what we have seen from the attacks punching through is when they go after jd vance.
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he will be the standardbearer for what the mega movement is moving forward. for donald trump anointed him. all these comments are coming up to the surface of him saying, you know, childless cat ladies are ruining our country and things like that and that is resonating with women. i know a lot of women who have struggled with infertility. >> a lot of republican women. >> miscarriages. and that messages penetrating through with women voters. so i think that is going to be crucial moving forward. >> republican women have cats, too. >> cornell belcher and sarah matthews, thank you so much. we really appreciate it. coming up next on "the reidout", maga's attack ads launching on women. "the reidout" continues right
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>> so at this point, it is no secret that from's republican party has a problem on their hands, and that is no surprise after they decide to stand behind the man who repealed row, was found liable for sexual abuse, and repeatedly diminishes women by calling them stupid. >> she is bad news.
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she is a radical left. anybody running for president, i do not think nikki would pass the test. >> kamala will not be your first female president. we are not going to have a socialist president, especially any female socialist president. elizabeth warren? no. no. she tweets a lot about me. she is a woman who has been very ineffective other than she has got a big mouth. >> if hillary clinton were a man i do not think she would have 5% of the vote. the only thing she has going is the woman card. >> trump and the mega faithful have never walked away from these attacks. they have actually doubled down on their attacks against women. project 2025 minutes remove any language referring to gender equality in federal rules and regulations. they want to use the regulatory powers of the department of health and human services, the
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fda, the department of justice, and the national institutes of health to end access to mifepristone. they want to enforce the comstock act, prohibit research, and become a task force and the white house. while the top of the gop ticket keeps calling women dumb, the supreme court keeps whittling away women's rights in the new presidential running mate jd vance has expanded the insults. vance has spent the past four years boosting his natural celebrity by gleefully insulting working women, childless women, and the spouses who love them, and basically every other person who might want children but can't. >> you have got state masculinity and no masculinity. that is not a win-win. if you bought into an idea that it is leah braving to go leave an a month old baby you have
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been had. when you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power. you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who do not have kids. >> we are effectively run in the country via the democrats and corporate oligarchs by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable in their own lives and so they want to make the rest of the country miscible, too. it is just a fact. look at kamala harris. pete buttigieg. aoc. the future of the democrats is controlled by people without children. how much sense does it make that we have turned the country over to people who do not have a direct stake in it? >> turning it over is zerlina maxwell and host of hillary clinton's media for the presidential campaign. it has been such a long time. welcome. welcome. i just want to kind of set the
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stage for this part of our conversation because it is important for people to understand what exactly is happening belief the surface year and what animates what jd vance is talking about. it is what they call them any voting. it was made popular by a white demagogue back in the 1980s. and it has taken a lot of energy and got a lot of energy from victor or blanc and his party and this is essentially what is about. it basically puts through the belief that certain people such as landowners, the religious white males, have more stake in the governance of society than anybody else. so that is the underpinning here. and what is happening is that women have emerged into the politics. the economy. this is a backlash. how do you see this particularly with the advance of the vice president to now become the running mate against the system represented by donald trump, and what does it say that the energy is starting to galvanize to push back
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against it. >> look, i have another word for it. it is called the patriarchy, michael. and what you are seeing in this particular moment is a collision of two different things. we have the patriarchy and the changing demographics in this country. and while we often talk about the browning of america, we do not talk about the fact that the browning of america, the majority of that emerging majority and demographic shift is women of color. in 2014, maia harris, kamala harris' sister was talking about how black, latinx, and api women were going to be a growing force in the american electorate. that was 10 years ago and right now we are living through the manifestation of that demographic shift, michael. and i think what you're seeing from these men who are espousing this toxic masculinity is essentially the last throes.
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right? we are in the last throes of this moment where this white male patriarch is the president and they tell us what to do and we have to listen. and i think women are just not going to take it anymore. >> well, you know, i really appreciate what you have just said and i think what is lost on a lot of folks, especially in politics, is that they tend to want to put this in a republican versus democrat bucket. so democratic women are the ones who are upset. well, the headlines would tell you otherwise because you have got conservative women from newsweek noting they are offended by jd vance and what he is espousing and what he has espoused. so what you're seeing that speaks to what he is saying is this demographic shift is all- encompassing. and i think the polling out there shows the difference between how women voted in 2016 where you had all women, 54%
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for clinton, 39% for trump, and in 2020 you have all women, 55% for biden, 44% per trump. you begin to see how the demographic shift is strengthening its self. as i was saying in the last segment, i think this could have a profound impact on the selection. how are you seeing, particularly among young women, but young voters at large, moving into this shift and looking to change election? >> well, gen z and millennial women are going to have a major impact, michael, because they're so large in terms of their makeup of the electorate. baby boomers aren't any longer the largest demographic group. i think that the reason why you see these attacks on kamala harris resonating is because we can relate to this kind of treatment. we have heard men say that to somebody next to us or we have had those comments launched at
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us individually, and i think that you have social media and you have the internet in a way that women are speaking to each other and having a conversation about how we are dealing with this type of sexism and misogyny, and she embodies our lived experiences. we see ourselves reflected in kamala harris and also the treatment of the vice president. i think this is women's march energy, michael. i think even on the day of the women's march, i remember a reporter asking me, do you think this is going to matter? yes, it is going to matter because this energy can be channelled politically, even though the anger we saw in the streets that day wasn't necessarily partisan energy. it was a backlash to the fact that we elected somebody who on tape said you can sexually assault women as if they are less than human and then he was elected as president of the united states, beating the first woman to have the democratic nomination. now, we have another chance in
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2024 to elect our nation's first woman president, and there's a long distance between 2016 and 2024, and i think what's resonating is the fact that women are seeing that we really have electoral power, not only can we respond and reject these notions that are steeped in toxic masculinity, but we have voting power. we have electoral power, and organizing power. and we can make a difference in who represents us. >> yeah, i appreciate that because it's not enough for a man to stand there all juiced up on steroids and whatever and rip his shirt and think that that's what we do now. zerlina maxwell, it is so good to see you. thank you so much for dropping by. coming up, president biden's address last night willingly giving up power, and passing the torch to a younger generation. it's quite a contrast from what we have been seeing on the other
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but this sacred task of perfecting our union is not about me. it's about you. your families, your futures, it's about we the people. >> after what can only be described as a few melancholy days president joe biden delivered a rather emotional yet graceful address to the nation last night, where he once again showed the country the kind of man he really is. speaking about his decision to pass the torch and drop his bid for re-election. it ozthe beginning of the end for joe biden's five-decade career in elected office. and he did it in his own bidenesque way. by elevating and restoring dignity to the conversation. the emotion of that speech was felt by many. including the president's family who were sitting just out of frame in the oval office as he delivered those remarks. and by his staff, who afterwards greeted the president with
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cheers of let's go, joe in the rose garden. where they celebrated in the most biden way possible, with ice cream. joining me now is jonathan alter, msnbc political analyst and founder of old goats on substack, only jonathan alter with the old goats. good to see you, man. >> good to see you. >> i want to start with this moment in the speech, which i thought was especially poignant and important. let's take a listen. >> great thing about america is here, kings can dictators do not rule. the people do. history is in your hands. the power is in your hands. the idea of america lies in your hands. you just have to keep faith. keep the faith. and remember who we are. we're the united states of america. and there's simply nothing, nothing beyond our capacity when
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we do it together. so let's act together, preserve our democracy. >> for me, it was such a powerful framing of not just what the election was about but what our mission as americans is about. how did you see the speech last night and your takeaway from it? >> i agree with you. i think it was an ode to decency. he mentioned we don't have kings and dictators here. earlier in the speech, he referred to a portrait of george washington, so george washington picked up from the ancient roman and he turned over office peacefully. this has been rarely done in human history, and this peaceful transfer of power establishing that we don't have kings here, we don't have dictators, this was essential, and what joe biden did last night was to give a speech and to make a decision
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that was in the spirit of the founder of our country. and that puts him in very good stead historically. you can say what you might about him on policy. you can criticize the fact that he decided to run for re-election when he was probably too old to do so, but when it counted, he made the american tradition, the american decision, in the american tradition. this is what's so important, is to set that standard again, so we realize that the radical in this campaign, michael, is not kamala harris, as all the trump advertising is saying now. the radical right winger is donald trump. he's the one who is out of step with the way we have done it in this country since george washington. and i think those are the notes that president biden was able to sound last night. and it will live in history. >> i think very much to your
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point, jonathan, in the framing of the american way of doing this, the george washington way of doing this, you had in contrast the tweet that trump senior adviser put out, and just it's just a dumb tweet on trump force one. hey joe, you're fired. you cannot express any better than that just how ignorant, out of touch, out of step with the idea and the ideals of america. donald trump is. so here's the tougher question. why is it, in light of what we just saw in the grace and the dignity of biden, do we have so many people willing to fall into this sort of darker narrative with trump? >> well, i think historians will be studying that for
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generations. but they have lost faith. so the president mentioned that word faith last night. he wasn't talking about religious faith. he was talking about civic faith. belief in the idea of america. and so the biden way, the george washington way, the abraham lincolnway, is to talk about the power of ideas. particularly the power of the american idea of the rule of law and the peaceful transfer of power. the other side, the radicals, believe in the idea of power. not the power of the idea. they're just interested in power. getting it and keeping it. and that tweet you saw shows they have no class. they have no real understanding of the decency, the mystic
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chords of memory that lincoln spoke of that are supposed to bond us. so right after the civil war, lincoln is talking about with charity for all, with malice toward none. and joe biden referred to lincoln and malice last night. we're not supposed to be a malicious country. and these people in the republican party now, in the leadership of that party, they're malicious. they're nasty. why couldn't they just show a little class? he wasn't fired. that's what they wanted to do. if he had stood for re-election, if they had beaten him. they could have then said on the day after the election in november, we fired biden. okay. that would have been legit. this was not a firing. this was a decision that the president made in the larger interest of the country. and i think from that tweet, by the way, the guy who tweeted that, he's the guy who swiftboated john kerry. so john kerry was a war hero. and this guy who is now running the trump campaign just made up
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a bunch of lies about him and helped sink the john kerry 2004 presidential campaign. they're going to try to do that again to harris. and what harris has to do, and she's off to a great start, is to say no, i'm not the radical san francisco liberal. he is the radical. trump is the radical. he's the one who is, i'll say it, she can't quite say it this way, she's the un-american candidate in this race. and so i think people have to get a sense that there are big constitutional issues at stake here. and when president biden talked about protecting democracy, he wasn't exaggerating. it's really on the line. this is not a draw, michael. >> it is not. i think the poignancy of the moment leads us to the moment that this is not a drill and a
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lot is at stake. thank you for bringing the perspective. coming up, how vice president kamala harris will navigate the complexities of the israel/hamas war with both president biden and harris meeting with benjamin netten uhue today. ue today most people call leaffilter when their gutters are clogged and they notice one of the many issues that can bring. sometimes it's the smell of mildew when water has seeped into the interior walls. or maybe they've spotted mold in the attic. but most often it's the more obvious signs of damage like rotten soffit, fascia, or water pooling near their foundation. you can get ahead of costly damage by protecting your home's gutters today. we're in your neighborhood and ready to help. schedule your free gutter inspection today, call 833 leaffilter, or visit leaffilter.com
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what does a robot know about love? it takes a human to translate that leap in our hearts into something we can see and hold. etsy. late today, vice president kamala harris shared her own views on israel and gaza.
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a crisis she will inherit if she succeeds president biden. the remarks came after the vice president met with israeli prime minister netanyahu, who also met with president biden earlier today. in her meeting with netanyahu, harris underscored israel's need to defend itself and condemned the october 7th attack. she also expressed her serious concern for the human suffering in gaza. >> let's get the deal done so we can get a cease-fire to end the war. let's bring the hostages home. and let's provide much needed relief to the palestinian people. and ultimately, i remain committed to a path forward that can lead to a two-state solution. and i know right now, it is hard to conceive of that prospect, but a two-state solution is the only path that insures israel remains a secure, jewish, and
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democratic state. and one that insures palestinians can finally realize the freedom, security, and prosperity that they rightly deserve. >> joining me is niera hawk, msnbc columnist and former state department senior adviser and former white house senior director. so good to see you. >> good to be back. i'm glad the vice president is diving head long into this very easy issue. >> that's exactly where i wanted to go. i mean, the screen shot of her in that setting speaking on a serious foreign policy matter as the putative democratic nominee of the party. what signal do you think it thi sent? it is a delicate dance, but she is trying to maybe create a lane or two that she can fill in later in the campaign and
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certainly setting up her own term. how did you see that moment with her, netanyahu and biden? >> it is fascinating because usually a vice president would not be the one shaking hands and going to the podium. the image was one of a commander-in-chief dealing one- on-one with heads of state and that is what she has been building in her time in the white house. she has traveled overseas and represented the united states, but understanding the nuances of how foreign-policy right now has become a domestic political issue. >> i think that is a good point because i am not going to get into what republicans have been saying about the border and all of that. that is crazy town stuff, but there is a level of seriousness with respect to the foreign- policy piece that i think is a real test. hillary clinton could meet that challenge because secretary of state, senator, all of that stuff. for the vice president it is more of a different narrative because she has had fits and
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starts in this space. the last year, more on the international stage. how do you think she has done in terms of setting this bar, meeting the bar that has been set for her, but also looking ahead and trying to figure out the proper position of the united states given the emergence of a new generation of voters out there who want a different kind of foreign policy. >> this generation of voters in the united states and globally is very much looking at human rights and even considering climate change as part of the dignity of human work and life as part of foreign-policy. at the same time president biden had to rebuild this coalition and what it means to be a democracy. what it means to stand up for those rights on the world stage and that the united states can be the beacon of hope that reagan talked about generations ago. she is right in the middle of all of that and the contrast is actually with trump. the president who has made
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friendships with dictators like north korea, who invites white supremacist leaders and welcomes them and embraces them. the autocrats of the world are donald trump's friends, so biden has set up this idea of what it looks like for europe to ally for another generation to battle against autocracy and the vice president can now bring forward that sense of human rights. she said today what many have been hoping to hear all along from the white house. that recognition of palestinian suffering with netanyahu standing right there. this is not the activist dream by any stretch of the situation, but it is different. >> it is a change in the narrative. >> it is a change of tone and more nuanced. to that point you think she could represent a bridge between the 75, now 80 year foreign-policy arrangement post- world war ii and the next iteration of what that looks like on a global stage?
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>> so much of it is how you connect the dots on why global engagement matters. the idea that j.d. vance has propagated that america first means america alone. that isolationism is simply not how we live our lives anymore. people buying products from temu and these companies in china. we are so globally connected and part of that information space is why this rising generation is so keenly aware of what happens overseas impacting us here. that is part of why we knew the russian invasion of ukraine was coming. when it happened in 2015 these were slow-moving reports. that transportation transparency can only work to their advantage. >> she could be president for the next generation. as, you know, that old order of baby boomers kind of go out to
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the sunset. nayyera haq, thank you so much. so good to have you here. we will be right back. back.
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break down what comes next in this historic election. that is all day sunday on msnbc. then on monday, joy will be back for a "reidout" special report, project 2025 exposed, breaking down the 900 page document piece by piece. how it would give donald trump the power to put in place an authoritarian government to take away many of your rights and reshape how you live your life. and with president biden bowing out and vice president harris now set to be at the top of the ticket, it is a whole new election. if you want to hear me, joy, and others on the msnbc team talk about all of it in person, come to msnbc live, democracy 2024 on saturday, september 7 in brooklyn. we just opened some new tickets for the afternoon session, which joy is going to be part of, which is great. you can get your tickets at msnbc.com. and that is tonight's

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