break down what comes next in this historic election. that is all day sunday on msnbc. then on monday, joy will be back for a "reidout" special report, project 2025 exposed, breaking down the 900 page document piece by piece. how it would give donald trump the power to put in place an authoritarian government to take away many of your rights and reshape how you live your life. and with president biden bowing out and vice president harris now set to be at the top of the ticket, it is a whole new election. if you want to hear me, joy, and others on the msnbc team talk about all of it in person, come to msnbc live, democracy 2024 on saturday, september 7 in brooklyn. we just opened some new tickets for the afternoon session, which joy is going to be part of, which is great. you can get your tickets at msnbc.com. and that is tonight's

"reidout". inside with jen psaki starts right now. it is jen psaki. chris hayes is still off. i know you want to hear from him. i promise it will absolutely be back, but in the meantime while i am here with all of you i'm going to dive into it. because there is a lot going on, i don't know if you heard, with the kamala harris candidacy. what you are about to hear is sexist and racist and gross and it pains me to even have to listen to it, but i want to play it because it is also important for you to know what is coming. >> the deliciousness of it all is this woman, who is literally a dei hire. >> diversity, exclusion and

equity. amine inclusion and equity. >> what about white females? what about any other group? when you go down that route to you get mediocrity. >> reporter: are you suggesting she was a dei hire? >> 100%. >> i think she was a dei hire and i don't think they have anyone else. >> how are you going to skip over her because she is female and her skin color is that correct dei color? >> let's spend a moment on the fact that that was sebastian gorka, calling someone else unqualified, so digest that for a second. on one level everything you heard, and there is plenty more and there is a lot coming, is old-fashioned racism and sexism. again, it is totally gross. for a few years now republicans led by donald trump of blasted anything that doesn't benefit straight, white men as diversity, equity, and inclusion. it is just a sexist, racist dog

whistle which even republican leaders seem to realize. in a closed-door meeting on capitol hill, house speaker mike johnson urged members to stop making bigoted comments about vice president harris and stick to the issues. but of course they won't, especially if the campaigns of 2020 and 2016 were any indication. they love it and they will come back to it as many times in as many ways as they can. so it deserves unpacking. that is what we are going to do. first of all the idea that kamala harris is unqualified to be president on her own merits, independent of race, gender or anything else is straight up misinformation. this woman was a prosecutor for two decades before being elected as attorney general of california. then she won the election to the senate and gained notoriety for being a tough question or of judicial nominees and

hearings. for the last 3 1/2 years she has been vice president of the united states, for goodness sake. what are we even talking about? contrast that with the other guy she is running against, donald trump, who you know is 20 years older, which i will remind you of and whose only relevant experience before he was elected was reality tv and film businesses. the goal of this is to get you to believe that vice president kamala harris is not qualified for this job, which she very much is. also this is not new. in the last presidential election no one endured as much sexist misinformation then kamala harris according to a study led by an expert on disinformation and democracy, who found that of more than 300,000 pieces of disinformation targeting more than a dozen candidates, a whopping 78% targeted harris. all lies to undermine her decades of public service because of her gender, her

ethnic background and her skin color. there is another aspect to the attacks on vice president harris, one that doesn't just rally racists and sexists, and believe me that is part of the strategy, but to dissolution would-be supporters to suppress their hope of what is possible. to suppress their engagement in the selection and their vote by making it seem like we just weren't ready for this. like the woman of color who told the new york times this week, quote, america is just not ready for a woman president. especially a black woman president. it is not her fault, that is what people are telling her on television every day. the thing is they are first because they never happened before. when i joined the obama campaign in 2007, plenty of my friends and family, even they assumed i would be off the campaign trail within months and it may sound familiar in this moment, the country was not ready to elect a black man to the presidency and he is far from the only one who has

experienced the challenge of being the first. you know who else has experience with that sort of thing? hillary clinton. in a new op-ed yesterday clinton laid out the challenge for harris, writing, quote, while it still pains me that i could not break that last glass ceiling, i am proud that my two presidential campaigns made it seem normal to have a woman at the top of the ticket. ms. harris will face unique additional challenges as the first black and south asian woman at the top of a major party ticket. that's real, but we shouldn't be afraid. it is a trap to believe that progress is impossible. she's right. it is a trap and a trap that democrats have to avoid and that requires calling it out. i don't mean wallowing. i don't mean hiding under your desk. i mean verbally punching back at the bully telling you what is or isn't possible. even if mike johnson and republican leaders really wanted to or could get their caucus to stop saying the quiet parts out loud, to stop taking

cheap shots at harrises qualifications with bigoted attacks and disinformation we will see more and more of, media pundits are not going to get the memo and neither is the guy at the top of the ticket. trump leads this campaign, so we are ready for him to call her a dei hire by biden. they are ready, of course they are ready, and democrats should be, too. not only is she incredibly qualified, but the historic nature of her candidacy is to be celebrated, not demonized. in a recent piece for new york magazine that was quite good, rebecca tracer talks about the thrill of taking a huge risk on kamala harris. as she points out our aversion to uncertainty is how we got to this precipice. to one willing to take risks on people, ideas and platforms on the next generation of leadership. democrats have remained chained to the past, but not anymore, she adds. everything is scary.

we have not been here before. we don't know if we can do this, precisely because the stakes are so high. we are at last going to act like it by taking unprecedented, untested, creative measures to grow and fight at a pitch that meets the gravity of the task in front of us. that is what the task is. with just over 100 days to go. she wrote that piece i referenced and is here with me. she was also the founding director of the biden administration disinformation governance board, which was attacked so relentlessly by the right wing it dissolved after three weeks. she joins me at the table along with symone sanders-townsend, former advisor to kamala harris and host of the weekend on msnbc. thank you both for being here. nina, i talked a little bit about your research and what you found. 78% should stun everybody. it is an alarming number. tell us more about what you

found in that research and what it tells us about what we should expect for the campaign ahead. >> you summed it up. it was over 300,000 pieces of information we looked at and 78% targeting then candidate harris. i think what is important to note is there were three key narratives we are already seeing recycled. they were sexualized narratives, claiming the vice president slept her way to the top. narratives claiming she was secretly a man, because she could not of gotten to a position of power without secretly being a man. >> obviously. >> right? that is a normal thing normal people think about. and racial narratives which claimed she was not black enough or indian enough to claim those heritages and this dei hire thing, though at the time we were not calling at that. another important point is our adversaries look at this disinformation and they echo it. in my research i have seen how russia has echoed these

narratives for years and it is doing it again as we had to 100 days before the election. >> such an interesting part of your peace you wrote for msnbc. they take the things happening here and push it into the system, which is something we learned in 2016. you know kamala harris well. he traveled with her. none of this is new. i think it is important to understand. i want to ask you how she personally deals with this stuff because it has been coming at her for years. >> frankly not in that volume before 2020, but before then. the thing about being the first is because you are the first, whether you are the first woman, first person of color, so on and so forth, folks don't know how to deal with you. they don't know how to process it so they resort to unfortunately racist and sexist tropes, memes, and stereotypes. the vice president because she

has been first in literally almost everything she has done, my experience was it was new for me because i never worked for a high-profile woman before. i had only ever worked for men. there was one day when i was like you might be the last woman i work for. >> there is a story there. >> there is a lot we have to deal with over here. but she was always aware of the criticism. when i worked there we would not hide it from her. it was something any candidate, any person in power needs to be aware of the criticism. when you're not aware the last and you want is your candidate, the vice president of the united states to be out there and someone says something and they are like what was that about? we discussed that this morning at 10:00 a.m. >> it is important for them to be aware. it is so interesting how they respond. obviously it depends on the person, so i want to hear from

symone on that, but is there anything in your research that shows what is effective pushing back on these attacks or betting them down when adversaries are using it? >> i think something that has given me a lot of hope is something that manifested as we are watching those crazy clips from right-wing commentators. we are laughing about it and making light of it and calling it out for how ridiculous it is and that is what i love about sort of coconut kamala, the memes coming out. it is owning it and also pointing to these ridiculous criticisms and saying, you know what? we can reclaim those from you and that is what is happening. >> i think it also shows how out of touch and it is a generational thing. the coconut thing, i have seen that on right-wing media for a while. and then you know when tiktok got a hold of it, it became it is cool. right-wing media made it out to be something that was detrimental. something that seemed like she is not serious.

she is not smart. because that is what they are trying to say and they are trying to say it in these ways. you just sigh congressman in the house hallway saying that. if you tune into conservative media and watch, it has been a daily onslaught since she was a candidate for president and the reality is that there are people who might not watch our network, but they watch fox news all day. they tune into right-wing conservative media and they believe what they are seeing. the best counter to that is to see for themselves. there is this narrative out there that the president somehow is not well and he had a healthcare crisis and that is why he is off the campaign trail. that is why he is not the candidate anymore. so him speaking from the desk yesterday was important so people could see for themselves that this narrative was trying to be painted out there, that what they were telling you was not true. believe what you see with your own eyes and see with your own ears.

>> i think i mentioned that what people should be worried about because we are a democracy and you want people to participate is people hearing this and thinking i don't think this will happen in our country. people who might support her. they want to vote for her. what should be done about that? >> you know how you talk to voters on the campaign trail and the worst thing is when voters want to be pundits. when voters want to be analyst. >> she's great, but this won't happen. >> exactly. you know who will win? i would always tell people i don't think so and so will win. they will win if you vote for them. so people should vote for who they want to see in the office. if enough people vote for who they want to see in the office, that person will win. it is as simple as that, but the campaign has to make that case. the campaign is four or five days old now.

>> a week is a year. >> literally eons. they have to continue to make that case. i don't think there is campaign believes this, but i have heard people talk about she is a woman, a woman of color. obviously the demographics are locked down. no, it does not work like that. you have to earn people's votes and my experience with the vice president has been she has always said how can we connect what is happening to people? she would tell us i want folks to understand what they are talking about. give me an example i can connect with them. don't just give me the numbers. give me an example and something specific to their community and i hope we see more of that in the next 100 days from the harris campaign. >> nina, you said so -- something so interesting during the break. we can't even get this data now. >> i would not be able to do the same study today because twitter shutdown access to its platform. crowd tangle which is how we

listened to facebook and instagram also doesn't exist anymore and that means we can't follow the harm being done on these platforms and the way the platforms are having a dereliction of duty responding to it, because of the political situation and how it has become difficult to do content moderation. it is no longer in favor and people worry of trump as president that they will find themselves on capitol hill or worse, answering for having done the basic due diligence of democracy. >> i hope she is listening. nina, symone, thank you. people need to be clear about what is coming. you can see symone on the weekend along with her cohosts saturday and sunday mornings 8:00 to 10:00 eastern right here on msnbc. coming up next, kamala harris raised millions and narrowed the polling gap only three days in. we've got governor tim walz on the short list for her running mate, next.

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i am ready to debate donald trump. i have agreed to the previously agreed upon september 10 debate. he agreed to that previously. now it appears he is backpedaling, but i am ready. i think the voters deserve to see the split screen that exists in this race on a debate stage, so i am ready. let's go. >> let's go.

i hear her. we are just days into the reality of this new election. a new pullout today has kamala harris just one point down against donald trump nationally. that is a national poll. we have not seen a ton of state polls, but that is an improvement since trump was up in that same poll just weeks ago. she has also raised $100 million, mostly from small donors and tens of thousands of volunteers have signed up. no question the vice president is off to a strong start, but the attacks are getting uglier. the race will be close. everyone should prepare themselves for that and we have just over 100 days to go, so where do we go from here? i am joined by someone on the short list to be vice president, governor tim walz, democrat of minnesota. governor, i'm not going to make you confirm that or ask you to tell me the status, but here is what i want to know. thank you. the role of vice president and

the role of being a running mate is about complementing the talents of the person at the top of the ticket. how would you complement vice president kamala harris? >> well, thanks for having me. it is about shared values and i think one thing is that there is a wealth of people out there because vice president harris is doing what all of us were so hungry for, articulating a positive future for america where everyone belongs, where everyone is treated with dignity. i think the thing is just surrounding yourself with those kinds of people. that is why she was there with joe biden, one of the most decent manual find and i continue to make this case. the contrast is so great that it is stunning right now and the polling of all of that, it will shake out where it is going to be, but i have done this for a long time and i have not seen the engagement. i have a 23-year-old who told me tiktok is on fire.

i see people smiling and there is much more of a sense of decency. whoever ends up being part of that, we are all on a team to make things better. i love joe biden saying it is not about me. it is about you. it is about everyone else. i think what you've got is you will see complementary values. you will see the ability to connect with folks across the country because i hear vice president harris say that we have far more in common. the idea that you need a specific messenger or a specific person, i'm not sure that's true. i think you need people willing to lean into values and not thinking this is normal. you have a former president that thinks calling names and spreading lies is the way to get people. they are continuing to shrink the electorate on their side. the ceiling on the floor are the same and i don't think they are going anywhere. i'm excited. >> you just need to win more votes to win the election. that is what it is about, as you well know. your 23-year-old, governor, may have told you that you've gone

viral lately for calling a bunch of republicans weird. i happen to agree with you when i watched some of these clips, but tell me more about why you settled on that particular description? >> you pulled up that clip of sebastian gorka. weird. that guy is central casting of like a bond villain and they continue to be obsessed with things. you know there is something wrong with people when they talk about freedom. freedom to be in your bedroom. freedom to be in your exam room. freedom to tell your kids that they can read. that is weird. they seem obsessed with this. look, the thing that i find the most weird about this is they never do the things they say. i learned early on that you do not need elected officials to give you a sermon. these guys are weird on how they frame it. they are obsessed and i said at the other day, the he-man women haters club. i don't know where this is

coming from i have to tell you, i just appointed our new justice to the supreme court. minnesota is the first date with a majority of women on the supreme court and we have a woman of color as the chief justice. that scares these guys, that terrifies them and they start being weird. listen to their stories. they think they are connecting with people and everyone feels uncomfortable around them. i'm sticking with that because i don't know what else describes it, but i know it is more cynical and it is deeper and hurtful and hateful. i think one of the things you point out, they are not offering anything. they are not going to come of the plan. everyday i ask where is your health care plan? so they are weird and i am not changing that. the thing is every day they give you more proof of that, so it is self-evident. >> i think it is apt. sharks versus being electrocuted, it is a weird thing to talk about, let's be real. i want to ask you about j.d. vance because you have been governor of a state with a lot

of rural, small towns. j.d. vance claims to represent that. what is he missing about small- town, rural america and what is he getting wrong as he talks about it out there? >> pretty much everything and he profited off it. he misread some type of cultural angst or something. we are angry because robber barons like him gutted middle america and took our jobs. then they try to tell you school vouchers are the thing to go on. i went to a high school with 400 people in the town. 12 cousins. my government teacher did a good job and you think you will build a private school? who will pay for it? you know how this works. they pull the money out of the public schools and stick it into the private schools for vouchers for people already going there. j.d. vance knows nothing about that. today is ivf day. thank god for ivf, my wife and i have two beautiful children.

he thinks he needs to dictate that. the golden rule in a little town is mind your own business. i don't need him to tell me about my family. i don't need him to tell me my wife's healthcare and reproductive rights. i don't need him telling my children what books they can read. he can do whatever he wants, but i am not interested and i think rural america, they are angry. they were gutted, but joe biden's policies and now soon to be president harris, bringing back manufacturing jobs. investing in infrastructure. how are you going to build a water treatment plant in a town of 400 if you don't have a collective effort? they scream socialism. we build roads and schools and rebuild prosperity into this. their whole plan is to go backwards to give tax cuts to the wealthy. so surprising that super successful donald trump who inherited $400 million and proceeded to fail at everything. middle america, you are in it, but you are not on your own.

neighbors help neighbors. i heard you punching back at the bullies. they see people less fortunate as scapegoats and punchlines for the jokes. we see them as neighbors and i said with my mom, my dad dies when my little brother is young. we are teenagers. we get social security survivor benefits. i'm all for pulling yourself up with their bootstraps. we did not have any boots. social security was the boots and we pulled ourselves up. j.d. vance gets none of that. my hillbilly cousins did not go to yale, but they contributed to our community and they are proud of it. >> look out for your neighbors, stop being weird. the governor tim walz way of politics. thank you so much, governor, for joining me. i really appreciate it. >> thanks. coming up, president biden calls for supreme court reforms. what can he get done in the six months he has left in the white house? we will talk about that next.

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i will keep defending our personal freedoms and our civil rights. from the right to vote to the right to choose. in going to call for supreme court reform, because this is critical to our democracy, supreme court reform. >> president biden took time out of his 13 minute address, that is a short address, this is significant, to address reform to the supreme court. we should not understate how

big this is. joe biden is an institutional list. he was on the committee for the confirmation hearings of john roberts as well as clarence thomas and samuel alito. the two justices whose undisclosed gifts and insurrection flags fueled the ethics scandals currently rocking the court and it is clear in light of those scandals that change is desperately needed. just today a sitting justice joined calls for new reforms to the court. senator markey of massachusetts renewed his push to expand the supreme court with the judiciary act which calls for an expansion of the court and he joins me now. i should say you have been calling for reform to the supreme court for some time and what is interesting to me about president biden using that time in a very short speech is that he did talk about it. what did you think about that? >> i think it is much needed. it can be a major part of his legacy, focusing on the supreme

court. the need for reform. in february, 2016, justice scalia died. the republicans created a new principal and it was for 11 months barack obama could not get a confirmed supreme court justice, because they said you don't confirm them during presidential years. then in 2020 when justice ginsburg passed away, from september 26, 2020 two october 26, 2020, they were able to confirm amy coney barrett. you can do it in the blink of an eye with the fear that joe biden might win the election. so they stole two seats. we are now seeing the consequence of it. the dobbs decision is the first installment, followed by the chevron decision, followed by an evisceration of gun rights. followed by presidential immunity. so everything that happened thus far is just a preview of coming atrocities from the supreme court. so my bill would expand the supreme court.

it would say that to supreme court justices must be reclaimed, so it makes up for the stolen seats and two additional justices must be given to president harris next year so she can expand the court out of 13 and then begin to restore the balance on the court, otherwise we will live for a long time with this illegitimate court that is based on two stolen supreme court seats. >> it is such an important topic because the presidential race is everyone's focus, but the justice system is a branch of the government and that is why it is so important to talk about. as you said, the judiciary would add four seats and to explain how it would be done. what about term limits? are there other things would love to see happen? >> i look forward to president biden's proposal. i would be open to term limits as well. expanding the court is constitutional. president lincoln did it, so

did president adams. it happened seven times, so we know it is constitutional. we know it can happen in a very brief time and the court can be rebalanced. i look forward to president biden's proposal. how he sees the reform of the supreme court being implemented, but something has to happen. it is a court that is out of control and unless it is made accountable, this country is going to suffer greatly. >> no question. have you talked to president biden or vice president harris about your ideas for this and what you would like to see in the proposals? >> i communicated my views on the expansion of the court to the white house over the past four years. they know how i view this because it is constitutional, can happen quickly and it does solve the problem, but again i am open to any other approach that the president might suggest. >> you have been in politics for a long time and the supreme court has the lowest approval

rating it has ever been at. they've done it to themselves, i think we can all say. is this an issue that you think vice president harris should be talking about? as she proceeds would you like to see her talk about it and how much would you like to see her talk about it? >> i think the supreme court should be on the ballot this november. the dobbs decision was a repeal of the 49-year-old roe v. wade protection for women in this country to make decisions about their access to abortion and whether or not talking to their own families and their doctors, they wanted to in fact have that healthcare procedure. that is gone. then the chevron decision which is the environmental, healthcare, civil rights and labor protections equivalent of the dobbs decision. it is going to make it very difficult going forward to put in protections that agencies like the epa, like the department of labor, on the books to protect american

families. all of this will be crystal clear, i think, through the arguments of vice president harris between now and election day, because she is a lawyer. she was on the judiciary committee. she understands all of these issues and i think donald trump is going to be on his heels trying to respond to these very, very accurate and powerful items which she is going to be making. >> she made them back to 2019 and talked about the need for the supreme court to have reforms. i will ask about the ethics scandals because they seem to keep piling up on the supreme court. it seems like every week there is new information. it is a toothless ethics situation they are living under. i knew that the senate invited the chief justice to come to the senate. he said no. is there anything else you can do or the senate can do to compel him to come or to hold him accountable? >> senator durbin and senator

whitehouse are doing a great job. ultimately i think it is going to be necessary for congress to act. the code of ethics which the supreme court is living under, as you say, is toothless. every other federal judge in america has a code of ethics under which they have to live and the code of ethics without enforcement is a delusion. it is a hallucination, so that is where the supreme court is right now. and again i think it is something that kamala harris will be able to run on because we can see the consequences now moving right into the lives of everyday americans across this country with the decisions they are making. justice thomas, justice alito have absolutely demonstrated what happens when there is no code of ethics on the highest court in the land. they now have the lowest standards and ethics in the land. this must change and i think the selection is absolutely going to be an educational

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we've been talking a lot about everything happening in the presidential race. i mean, this week for obvious reasons. but the other really big question is how the change at the top of the democratic presidential ticket could affect down ballot races. some places it will, some places it will not. democrats are trying to maintain control of the senate or, of course, take control of the house.

one of the most interesting races in the country is in texas, where colin allred is running against ted cruz. one recent poll showed a tightening race between allred and cruz, with allred slightly above the margin of error. that poll taken before president biden left the race also showed him trailing donald trump by a much bigger margin of nine points. what could it is signify for the texas senate race? that's one of my questions. colin allred of texas, candidate for senate, joins me now. one, i know you know the vice president, you're friends, you've worked together in the past. but you're running a close race in texas. it's only been a couple of days, but how has her candidacy at the top of the ticket impacted your race or has it at this point? >> first of all, i want to thank joe biden for his 50 years of service, and vice president

harris was a member of the congressional black caucus, and i support her nomination. but even before she got -- this whole shake-up happened, i was always focused on texas. i'm a fourth generation texan. my family's from brownsville. i went to baylor. it's really important for texas that we get a senator who cares about all 30 million of us. >> mm-hmm. >> as that poll showed, before all this happened, we were already locked in a really tight race. >> mm-hmm. >> this enthusiasm will help us bring the good news to our fellow texans they don't have to be embarrassed about their senator. they can get a new one. >> it's so early, right, and there's not a lot of state polls, so this is why it's interesting to talk about this, some of the early polls show she has raised enthusiasm among young people, among communities of color, are you seeing that in texas at this point? >> well, certainly i've seen it, and i think that's really important. because what we really need to do in texas is get folks out to vote.

i was a voting rights lawyer before i came to congress. it's a struggle we've had for some time. we have laws that make it difficult to vote. we've also had some folk who is decided they're going to take themselves out of the process. and that's what having that enthusiasm and having folks on the ground who can help get their neighbors involved become so important. so it's critically important. and i think an election where, and a state, where we're dealing with a total ban on abortion with horrific consequences, we have a senator who's too busy podcasting and going on fox news to try and do anything to help our state and goes off to cancun when the lights go out. we need to have a change. this is going to help with that. >> i want to play this abortion ad if we have this ready, and hopefully i think we do. it's a recent abortion ad that you ran, because you just mentioned it. it's an important issue in texas and across the country. >> let me say at the outset, kamala can't have my gun, she can't have my gasoline engine, and she sure as hell can't have

my steaks and cheeseburgers. >> we'll play the ad in a second. let me ask you about that, though, first, because there's a lot ted cruz has been saying, a lot we can ask you about. that was his attack on harris. i found that to be so strange, i know that's part of hisstick, -- >> ted cruz should be more focused on being a senate tofrment something he hasn't been doing for 12 years. when i mention he's podcasting three to five times a week, that means hundreds of hours he's spending trying not to serve 30 million texans. when we have bipartisan efforts to get things done, ted cruz is always voting against it. we're dealing with an issue at our southern border. we still need to have policy changes and resources committed to it. there was a bipartisan effort to try and address that. ted cruz proudly took that down. he dhad in 2013 as well when the

gang of eight and president obama tried to reach a comprehensive agreement on immigration reform. we need a senator who will roll up his sleeves and get that done, not one who's spending all their time focussing on other things and get on tv and make points like that. >> are you hopeful -- i mean, the vice president, they're attacking her on this. this was a border bill supported by many conservatives, negotiated bipartisan one, it fell apart because of president trump and mike johnson, are you hopeful the vice president will talk about that more on the trail? >> i think we have to. this is an issue for us. and my family's from brownsville, the tip of texas. my grandfather was a customs officer there. i see our border communities as not just places you go on kind of political safari, that's the way i think ted cruz comes down to the border. he puts on outdoor clothing, looks tough, comes back to d.c. and doesn't pass legislation to help. we have folks to point out problems. what we have in a senator is someone to solve those problems. when you take that down when no

state would have benefitted more from that bill than texas, you should be held accountable for that. >> i want to play that abortion ad. we don't have much time left, but i want to play it, because it's important for people to see. >> it's gotten more dangerous to be a woman in texas. >> and it's ted cruz's fault. he fought for an abortion ban that goes too far. >> they didn't just make it illegal to have an abortion, they made it illegal for me to do my job. >> so whether you were raped or something went tragically wrong and your life is at risk -- >> women are now forced to flee texas for care. >> that message is so powerful because it's healthcare providers. that is who you're featuring, and why was that so important to feature healthcare providers in that ad. >> this is the reality in texas. my wife and i, we've had two beautiful boys in dallas in the last five years. jen, you and i both know those rooms are too small to have ted cruz in there too. when you get the news we all hope we don't get, there's a problem with the pregnancy, and

your doctor has to say, there's nothing i can do for you, you have to leave the state. or that doctor is worried about their license, their criminal exposure if they treat you. that's not who we are as texans. if there's one thing i know about us, it's that we believe in freedom, and this is not it. it's fundamentally an issue of freedom. those providers are telling the truth. they're saying what their experience is. we're also going to see an issue of not having enough providers going forward. >> congressman allred, i know you have a tough campaign ahead. it's a close campaign. great talking with you about so many issues. that does it for me tonight. i will be back this weekend with a special edition of inside with jen psaki. we've got a great lineup of guests, including transportation secretary pete buttigieg and california senator laphonza butler. that's sunday at noon on msnbc. but first alex wagner tonight starts right now. hi, alex. >> you are burning the midnight oil, sister --

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