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reports," we're following break news out of france, a coordinated arson attack targeting high speed train lines just before the olympic opening ceremony in paris. the early indications of who is responsible. plus, breaking political news, former president barack obama endorsing vp kamala harris. the behind the scenes talk of a joint appearance on the trail. also ahead, backtrack, is donald trump trying everything he can to get out of a debate against his new opponent? and later, the capstone to a controversial visit. israel's prime minister set to sit down with donald trump at mar-a-lago today. ♪♪ good morning, it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york, and we begin with the breaking news overseas this morning. coordinated arson attacks targeting and crippling high speed train lines in france just before the official start of the

paris olympics. the attacks closing three rail lines and impacting travel for an estimated 800,000 people. again, this all happening just hours before the opening ceremony resulting in heightened security in a city that's already on high alert. let's get right to nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel live in paris. richard, what do we know about this attack? >> so we are at one of the train stations in paris that was most impacted, and it is these high speed train lines that have been knocked offline. the attack coordinated, even is describing it as coordinated, happened around 4:00 in the morning, specifically targeting the communication lines, the high speed fiberoptic networks, and they happened in the north the attack just outside of paris, not in the city center, to the east and to the west, another attack in the south was

thwarted, police say. so there was an attempt to shut down this network completely and, at least for the moment, it has been largely successful. the trains have been disrupted. we've been hearing announcements all morning on the loud speaker saying that the trains are no longer running, the high speed trains. since it is a rail network, it impacts everything, not just the high speed trains because trains are being diverted, some trains are overcrowded. there's less traffic the the entire network is in somewhat of a state of disarrays, and they're telling passengers that it will not be up and running until through sunday until monday. it is not being described as an act of terrorism. it is being described as a malignant act of vandalism, and it's not exactly clear who is responsible, but one u.s. official says that it looks like it could have been the worst of anarchists, people on the far left and the leading french

newspaper is also describing it as having come from extremists on the far left. most of the passengers here, i can show you a little bit. there's a high security presence, soldiers as well, but these are a lot of passengers generally they are french passengers. they are people who were leaving the city, many people in paris have decided that the olympics is just too much of a stress on the city and they're getting out of town, going on vacation, going to country homes, visiting friends, family, or going on their holiday. this was a busy time anyway, and especially now with the olympics, people who aren't attending the games were trying to go to quieter places. now all of that has been disrupted. we've been talking to passengers who don't know where they're going to go now. they had tickets. now suddenly they're stuck in the city where -- so i don't

know if you can hear that, how clearly, but they're saying that -- there, you heard it, if possible we invite you to postpone and cancel your trip, and that's what people here are trying to figure out. how do they postpone? where are they going to stay if they're stuck in paris and how are they going to continue on with their onward plans. so description, major disruption, clearly it seems timed to cause pain while the world's attention is focused on paris but not being characterized as a terrorist attack, not impacting the games, no one hurt, no one injured, just a headache. >> richard engel, thank you so much for that live reporting in paris. we'll of course stay on top of this story, bring our viewers new information as we get it. we are also following big breaking political news this morning, the de facto democratic nominee getting her most high profile endorsement yet.

former president obama and former first lady michelle obama officially throwing their support behind vice president kamala harris this morning capping off a remarkable week that saw all corners of the democratic party rally around her. >> i can't have this phone call without saying to my girl kamala, i am proud of you. this is going to be historic. >> we called to say michelle and i couldn't be prouder to endorse you and to do everything we can to get you through this election and into the oval office. >> you heard both the obamas on that phone call. joining us now, aaron gilchrist at the white house and garrett haake covering the trump campaign. aaron, will we see the obamas join harris on the campaign trail, and what's next for her campaign? >> yeah, i think it's reasonable to expect that you'll see the obamas on the campaign trail at some point. we have learned from sources familiar that there have been discussions happening between the obama aides and harris aides

about when exactly that might happen. the former president and former first lady have both before very careful and strategic about how and when they show up sense the -- since the obamas left the white house. they have expressed this endorsement, the support for vice president harris, and we'll expect that there will be a point in the more traditional time period where we would see their sort of support show up during the convention after the convention leading up to the election that we would likely see the obamas on the campaign trail as well. we know that they have been -- the vice president and former president have been in touch several times since sunday when president biden dropped out of the race. as far as what happens going forward, the vice president doesn't have a lot of public-facing events over the weekend. we expect she will attend a fund raiser. they expect thousands of volunteers to do some of those traditional things, door knocking, making campaign phone calls and trying to drum up more support. >> we also have new reporting on the harris veep stakes. what have we learned? >> the harris campaign

acknowledging publicly for the first time that the vetting process are has begun. our yamiche alcindor has gotten a statement from campaign spokesperson saying that the vice president has directed her team to begin the process of vetting potential running mates, that is now beginning in earnest and that we won't likely hear anything more from the campaign officially about that process until the vice president announced who she has chosen to be her running mate. you see some of the faces of people that we know are on the short list, people who have received vetting materials or requests for vetting materials. one of these people could very likely be the person that the vice president chooses, likely within about a week's time because we know they're trying to get that done before the nomination roll call process happens early in august. >> that's right, august 7th is the date we've been told is the deadline or their goal. thank you very much, aaron. garrett, this race has changed a lot in the past week. i understand trump is now hedging on a debate with harris. what can you tell us?

>> sort of, ana, what we're seeing from the trump campaign is a combination of stalling and trolling here, arguing that the agreement that the trump campaign had with joe biden for one more debate in september was an agreement with joe biden, and joe biden is no longer the democratic nominee. the trump campaign argues that kamala harris isn't the democratic nominee yet and so agreeing to do any kind of debate with her right now would be too soon. it would be premature. so they say they want to wait until harris or someone else they argue is formally nominated and then they can go ahead with scheduling debates with her and presumably a vice presidential nominee. donald trump himself has said he's open to doing perhaps multiple debates with harris, but there's no real sign of when or where those could occur. this sort of fits with what we're seeing from the trump campaign which has struggled to get its arms entirely around exactly how they want to confront this new democratic nominee. they have thrown a number of different attacks against the

wall with varying degrees of effectiveness. probably t biden administration's inability to control the border crisis over the last couple of years and sort of try to blame any border issues you might see on her. but beyond that, they're still somewhat searching for a message and a plan against the new de facto nominee going forward. >> garrett haake, thanks for the reporting. and again, aaron gilchrist, thank you. joining us now is democratic congresswoman jasmine crockett of texas. good to see you this morning. first, your reaction to president obama's endorsement. just how significant is that? >> it's huge, but let me tell you, overall, i think it's fitting that we are now about to see the beginning of the games, the olympic games, and right now what you see happening here in the united states is team usa is being built. we will take home the gold in november because this is a team that looks like black women are pulling together for harris,

black men are pulling together for harris. we just saw the historic call that the white women for harris had. we've got the support of the sitting president. we've got the support of the former living presidents. listen, she is pulling together the coalition that we need to beat maga in november. >> and so let me ask you more about that energy and the momentum we're seeing behind kamala harris right now. you mentioned that 44,000 person zoom call that you were part of that was organized by a black women's leadership group earlier this week, and yesterday there was that zoom call with white women for harris. that one had over 100,000 people joining that call. zoom kept crashing because of how many people were trying to enter. does this remind you of the energy we saw in 2008 with obama? >> absolutely. you know, it's interesting that this week i said the word for the week is hopeful. there were so many people that kept using that word. they said we're hopeful. the last time we talked about

hope was in 2008, and i think right now that's exactly what we need to take down the disastrous and divisiveness that we get out of maga, and so hope will win the day over hate every single time. >> when it comes to trump's vp pick, j.d. vance, more of his old comments are going viral on the internet. take a listen to this one. >> you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who don't have kids. let's face the consequences and the reality. if you don't have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn't get nearly the same voice. >> so that was in 2021, and that's on top of those childless cat ladies comments that have gotten quite a bit of criticism so far. what's your message to voters, women in particular who are looking at these comments and they may be still trying to

decide between donald trump and kamala harris. >> it is hard for me to conceptualize why women would want to support that ticket at all. i mean, even before we had j.d. vance, we know that the policies that they're pushing, the policies that are coming out of project 2025 are nothing but attacks on women. as someone who is childless i absolutely resent all of the rhetoric we're getting out of j.d. vance. what american people need to think about is the very first big step a nominee has to take, the first big decision they have to make is who their running mate will be and the fact that trump chose j.d. vance tells you everything about his decision-making abilities that you need to know. he does not make good decisions. j.d. vance is a disaster for trump. that is exactly why they're panicking right now. you know, i think that trump

decided that he wanted someone who would pledge their fealty to him, and if it comes down to certifying the election, which you lost, i'm going to do what mike pence didn't do. when it came down to preserving who we are as americans, it didn't become partisan. he absolutely put the united states over policies and rhetoric. >> it sounds like you got to go, you got company, thank you so much, congresswoman jasmine crockett for joining us this morning. >> absolutely. thank you. and up next, what nikki haley is saying about the ticket switcharoo, and could her voters be swayed by kamala harris. the mar-a-lago meetup, what does israel's prime minister have to gain by going to florida for a face to face with donald trump. also, the california wildfire that has nearly tripled in size and the race to contain it. and later, more from paris

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democratic congressman max rose. so, mark, trump had agreed to a september debate with president biden hosted by abc news, but then biden dropped out of the race, and trump seems to have changed his tune. first he said he wasn't, quote, thrilled with abc. now he wants to wait until harris is officially the nominee. what's your read on this? does it sound like trump's trying to get out of that debate? >> no question, what happened to anywhere, anytime, anyplace. this is really interesting because the most important asset for a presidential candidate is the perception of strength, and that's why biden was in so much trouble, mostly because of his age, he was just perceived as weak, and trump was perceived as strong even though he was old as well. by trying to fade this debate, trump is signaling his own weakness, that he's worried about debating harris and he should be. you know, one thing people remember about the 2020 campaign, which wasn't great for harris, was her shining moment on the debate stage where she almost took out joe biden with a

round house. she is a great debater, and i think that it's really interesting that trump is already showing signs of real concern about the debates. >> congressman, are we entering an era now where debates are simply optional? and isn't that just a disservice to the american people? >> it's a total disservice, but i really don't think we're entering that era, thank god, because just imagine if donald trump actually rejects a debate. >> i mean, he did in the primaries. >> well, that's normal politics, right? if you're leading significantly in a primary, you don't debate. heck, i've done that before. but in a presidential election where, you know, you're trailing each other, neck in neck in the polls, you debate because what happens if donald trump decides not to debate? for the next 60 days, here's this man that says i'm the strong leader that you all need to tackle the problems that we're facing but he's too

chicken to debate because he knows that he can't stand next to kamala harris, who has an impeccable ability to prosecute the case against donald trump as a failed leader and a threat to democracy, he won't be able to stand up to those politics for 60 days being rightfully called a chicken, i just don't see it. it would be so foolhardy. >> that's interesting. i do want to get your thoughts, congressman, on j.d. vance and some of these new old comments we're talking about today. >> right. >> we played the one at the top of the show where he seemed to disparage people, women who don't have children. there's another comment that abc news is reporting on about another 2021 remark vance made where he argued for higher tax rates on childless americans. he says, quote, so you talk about tax policy. let's tax the things that are bad and not tax the things that are good. if you're making $100,000, $400,000 a year, you've got

three kids, you should pay a different lower tax rate than if you're making the same amount of money and you don't have any kids. it's that simple. of course the child tax credit already exists, but just the way he talks about it. bad if you don't have kids, good if you do have kids. do you think trump's regretting his vp pick? >> absolutely. and this is why trump took so long to make the decision in the first place. i think he had a sneaking suspicion that j.d. vance is awfully weird and has this instinct to consistently stand out, and you know, i think that you see this often -- >> he still picked him. he had many other candidate, so if he had an instinct that he was weird, why would he have picked him? >> i think his sons got to him. >> you think it's about his family? >> i think his family got to him. i think tucker carlson got to him. i think people were saying you need some level of intellectual consistency. let's bolster the maga movement. but what's so shocking about that is they actually picked

someone who -- he's smart, no doubt he's smart, but he has no intellectual foundation. five years ago when it was cool for him and, you know, republicans, young republicans to say they're anti-trump, he was saying trump's the next hitler, and now he sees a new lane for himself, but he consistently has this weird, weird instinct to say things that are just outrageous and strange like people without children should be taxed more. it's odd, and it's not going away, and that's why he has not gotten any bump in the polls after being nominated to the vice presidency. no one's ever seen something like this before. >> mark, i've got to get your thoughts on this. >> well, in a single statement, j.d. vance just wiped out a complete demographic that could have voted for trump and the republican ticket. the race is inarguably going to be very close, you need every vote possible. i don't know what the numbers are of childless americans in

this country, but it's got to be a lot. the other thing about vance, another example of the failed vetting process. trump is trying to run as fast as he can from his 2025 project about what republicans really want to do if trump's elected and trump was trying to deny that he had anything to do with that. j.d. vance wrote the foreward to the paper, so now they own it, and they can't get away from it. you just can imagine that trump is going crazy over this. >> well, thank you both for offering your perspective on this, former congressman max rose and mark mckinnon. good to see you both. happy friday. just a quick programming note, on sunday 100 days out from election day, catch my colleague chris jansing at 4:00 p.m. eastern as she, ali velshi, jen psaki and more break down what comes next now that kamala harris is the front runner. coming up, we will hear

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welcome back. today a controversial u.s. visit is capped off with a trip to mar-a-lago. in a few hours, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu will sit down with former president trump in florida one day after separate one-on-one meetings with president biden and vice president harris. this round robin with american leaders has been met with intense protest in washington, which have elicited condemnation from top members of both parties. it's also been met with mounting skepticism from families of the 111 hostages who have been held in gaza since october 7th. nbc news international correspondent raf sanchez joins us now in tel aviv.

raf, here's what former president trump said yesterday about the war in gaza. >> yeah, i want him to finish up and get it done quickly. you got to get it done quickly because they are getting decimated with this publicity. israel has to handle their public relations, their public relations are not good, and they've got to get this done fast. >> you got to think the message netanyahu will hear from trump today is going to be different from what he heard from the current administration, and specifically vice president harris yesterday. how's the prime minister approaching today's meeting? >> reporter: so ana, vice president harris has been deeply involved with the administration's public messaging on the war since october 7th, but obviously her words take on a new weight now that she is the presumptive democrat nominee. when she came out of that meeting with prime minister netanyahu, she very much towed the administration line saying that the united states supports israel's right to defend itself, especially after the horrors of

october 7th, but then she really, really made clear that she sees and she is moved by the suffering of palestinian civilians inside gaza who have been living through this war for this last nine and a half months, 80% plus of gaza's population displaced. take a listen to what she had to say. >> it is time for this war to end and end in a way where israel is secure, all the hostages are released, the suffering of palestinians in gaza ends, and the palestinian people can exercise their right to freedom, dignity, and self-determination. there has been hopeful movement in the talks to secure an agreement on this deal, and as i just told prime minister netanyahu, it is time to get this deal done. >> reporter: and ana, i thought it was interesting the vice president sort of subtly

contradicting the message that the prime minister gave to rapturous applause in front of republicans in the house of representatives. he said this war is black and white. it is civilization against bar barrism, and that it needs to end in total victory for israel, and the vice president at the end really made an appeal for nuance, that this is complicated, that there are a lot of innocent people on both sides caught in the cross fire here. we're not expecting nuance when prime minister netanyahu goes down to mar-a-lago to meet former president trump. it will be interesting to read the body language of these two men. the former president very pro-israel but furious with prime minister netanyahu for congratulating president biden following his victory in the 2020 election. >> raf sanchez, thanks for the reporting. and joining us now former state department senior adviser for arab israeli negotiations, aaron david miller. aaron. the u.n. says nine out of ten, nine out of ten in gaza has been

forcibly displaced. 90%. here's what the vice president said about this humanitarian crisis following her meeting with netanyahu. >> what has happened in gaza over the past nine months is devastating. the images of dead children and desperate, hungry people fleeing for safety sometimes displaced for the second, third, or fourth time. we cannot look away in the face of these tragedies. we cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering, and i will not be silent. >> did her message last night mark a pivot or a change in tone, do you think, from what we've been hearing from president biden throughout? >> a change in tone, and thanks for having me on, a change in tone no doubt. a different generation, different tone, and that message that she delivered, which was

incredibly balanced, very supportive of israel, but highly attuned to the sensibilities and tragedies for gazans amid palestinian deaths and humanitarian catastrophe. that statement that she gave, president biden cares, there's no doubt about that, very caring man, but he's had a very hard time these many months conveying the same kind of empathy and sense of loss for palestinians as he does for the israelis. so she'll remain within the parameters of policy on the policy side, but the tone, the firmness, the fact that she won't remain silent, all that is a much different style than what we witnessed from her boss these many months since october 7th. >> as for donald trump, what does netanyahu aim to get out of this meeting with the former president today? >> you know, if the gop is

donald trump's party -- and i've worked, voted for republicans and democrats -- then the gop is also the party of benjamin netanyahu, and he's staked much of his career, certainly his tenure as the longest governing prime minister in the state of israel, i'm banking from support from republicans while they're in power and also weaponizing republicans against democrats when democrats hold the senate and the white house. so he needs to make up, this is a forgiveness tour. he's hedging his bets. goes on recess july 28th. doesn't reconvene until two weeks before our election. chances are mr. netanyahu will be around as prime minister to make a judgment on who the next president of the united states is, and he's going to have to adjust, i suspect, his tactics and his politics accordingly. >> there's been a lot of criticism of netanyahu at home for making this visit. obviously there's been criticism here too with some democratic members of congress boycotting

his speech. overall, though, what has netanyahu accomplished with this visit? >> i think he accomplished exactly what he wanted to do. number one, he satisfied his base with that very tough speech that he delivered before congress. number two, it was a vanity tour in many respects. you notice that he didn't take long in his address to remark that he was the fourth -- it was the fourth visit to address congress. churchill had three, mandela only had two. this was very much an effort to demonstrate that netanyahu is in a league of his own, and he's indispensable to the israeli political classes at a time when his polls are sagging. i think the most important meeting he's going to have is the one today in mar-a-lago mending fences with trump r in an effort to position himself should he regain the white house. >> aaron david miller, you always help us understand things

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intensity of the fire yesterday in butte county. and the man suspected of sparking this fire just two days ago is now under arrest and facing arson charges. joining us now morgan chesky in chico, california, morgan, what is the situation like there this morning? >> reporter: ana, this fire has grown so rapidly, in fact, doubling in size over the last 24 hours after initially starting wednesday afternoon after authorities say ronny dean stout ii pushed a flaming car into a ravine. he has since been taken into custody. he is awaiting arson charges. there's no word as to why he was motivated to do that, but hard to believe that that one flaming vehicle now the result of more than 150,000 acres that have burned here just north of chico. cal fire crews getting ready to go back to the front lines. we know that there have been hundreds of firefighters cycling in and out of this blaze trying to keep it relatively contained,

but the containment just 3% at this hour, and that is absolutely concerning. another concern, ana, is the fact that we have triple digit temperatures that are forecast here through the next several days, and that is why there is not going to be much relief from that standpoint. fire crews have been cutting fire lines by hand or with bulldozers, doing whatever they can to try to shape the path of this fire. but as we saw in that video, a little wind can do so much damage and spreading it so quickly here. this is the largest fire in the state of california, ana. just to the north of us in oregon there is another significant blaze, the durky fire burned more than a quarter million acres and is still very active as we speak, ana. >> reporter: wild video of that fire tornado. stay safe and thanks for the update from chico, california. turning now to a major bust in texas. a son of notorious -- are now

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even a dismissal of the guilty verdict. here to break it all down, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. lisa, the prosecution's argument makes this all sound pretty simple. is it? >> it is and it's not. so they're not asking for the case to be thrown out because donald trump was indicted for acts that he committed during his presidency. it's pretty obvious to you, me and our viewership that that's not what's going on here. there's a lesser known facet of that supreme court presidential immunity ruling that says evidence of a person's official acts can't be considered either where we're talking about a former or current president, and that's where things get complicated. the entire motion by trump's team is predicated on their argument that the trial evidence here included a number of things that really related to trump's period of his presidency and things that he did that they argue are part of his official conduct as president. >> and so when it comes to official conduct, for example, would the judge here judge merchan or an appeals court have to have a hearing over him signing checks when he was in

the office that are connected to stormy daniels? >> so the checks are not part of the argument here. i think even trump's lawyers acknowledge that the checks were a purely personal act, but so far judge merchan has not indicated that he's going to hold a hearing. he said he's going to rule by september 6th on this motion to set aside the verdict. so far he seemed to indicate he's going to do so solely on the papers, ana. >> in general, do supreme court decisions apply retroactively even before a case has gone through the appeals process or even sentencing? >> i think they definitely apply before sentencing and if a case is going through the appeals process. when it doesn't apply retroactively is generally when you have a full and fair and final verdict, then for the most part, you don't see retroactive application of the supreme court opinion. >> lisa rubin, let's stay on this one, obviously. >> absolutely. >> september is going to be the next time that we'll be seeing some action in this case.

thank you for joining us. >> thank you. turning back to the race for the white house now, vice president kamala harris's entrance into the field this week excited supporters about the prospect of the first female president, but harris is the second female candidate to run against trump this year. his former u.n. ambassador, nikki haley held out longer than any other trump republican rival in the primary, but will haley voters consider voting for harris. with the help of some experts, our team sat down with some of those voters and asked just that. nbc news senior political editor mark murray is with us now. mar good to see you. what are we hearing from those haley voters when it comes to this new matchup? >> yeah, ana, the conversation with these nikki haley voters came during an eventful and chaotic last few weeks in american politics, obviously with the assassination attempt on donald trump, the republican convention, and of course joe biden's exit from the 2024 race. and in this focus group with

these nikki haley voters, some of them had some positive things to say about kamala harris. some of them were negative, but almost all of them said that they wanted to know more about the vice president. attack a listen to some of the comments. >> vice president harris, first word or phrase that comes to mind, everybody have one? >> interesting. >> jennifer. >> condescending. >> ronny. >> flaky or word salad. >> dale. >> radical. >> melody. >> i want to say intelligent. >> loyal. >> theresa. >> i would say a feminist. >> june. >> sometimes catty. >> audra. >> giggly. >> i don't have a good understanding of her policies. >> just by a quick show of fingers, how many of you feel like you don't have enough of an opinion about vice president harris to opinion one way or the other? wow. nearly all of you. >> that's one of the things that i disease like about her is that we don't know enough. she's been vice president for almost four years and we still

have no idea what her platform is or what she stands for. >> i think people are just sick of trump and i think that america is just going to say enough is enough and they're going to go with harris. >> she's younger and she's not trump and -- because he is not a real republican. >> just think our primary process is broken. i voted for nikki who had dropped out of the race already. >> by a show of fingers, who feels kamala harris is prepared to become president? >> because it was just thrown on her. i mean, she's getting prepared. >> now, ana, there were 14 total of these focus group participants who had voted for nikki haley and of those 14 three said that they were voting for harris, five said they were voting for trump and the rest, third-party or not voting at all. but what also ends up standing out is that these voters despite what has and an eventful and

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the final countdown to the biggest sports competition in the world, the olympic games, kicking off in just a little

over two and a half hours now in paris and the opening ceremony won't happen in an arena this career, the french are taking things afloat. performances happening on the seine and the athletes transported by boat along that river. coco gauff and lebron james leading the team as flag bearers with first lady jill biden leading the u.s. delegation. while we will be chanting usa, usa, here at home, we will be hearing a lot of -- over there. joining us now from paris, nbc news chief int correspondent keir simmons. >> reporter: i like the french. i'm impressed. >> i've been practicing that during the break, keir. i do not speak french but i'd love to and i'm trying to get in the spirit. tell us about what we know about the opening ceremony. >> reporter: well, how about this view, ana, isn't it amazing? here we are underneath the eiffel tower, the river seine beneath me here. this is where the opening ceremony will come to a close.

that is the champions plaza, that's where a lot of the events at the end of the opening ceremony will take place. just along the river that's the alexander iii bridge, four miles along the river there will be the opening ceremony, four miles along the river. so team usa will be the second-to-last boat on the procession. 3,000 dancers and performers taking part. we don't know what's going to happen, there's rumors about celine dion, i think there's going to be lots and lots of surprises. there are lots of u.s. stars here, aren't there? who knows who may end up there, but for now it just feels like the calm before the storm. there is a lot of security, the place has been swept. if i look across i can see police in the street. the avenue of new york this is called, so very appropriate that we are here. this beautiful apartment is being used by folks -- it belongs to a woman from new jersey, she has invited some

guests, they are going to hold a watch party here. surely one of the best views in the house. you run out of superlatives to describe how fantastic this is going to be and we're starting i think in two and a half hours. >> wow, you've definitely got the cream of the crop view right there. perfect front row seat. >> reporter: right. >> keir, enjoy every moment of it and thank you for bringing us all of the excitement and highlights for taking us there. good to see you. all right. be sure to tune in tonight for special coverage of the opening ceremony, begins at 7:30 p.m. eastern on nbc and we will be streaming on peacock. that does it for us this week. have a wonderful weekend. for now i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. ♪♪ good morning, 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm jose diaz-balart. we're following breaking news out of