to noon eastern. do not forget, "velshi" is available on podcast and you can listen for free wherever you get your podcast. you can catch the "velshi" content on youtube. stay right where you are because the katie filling show begins right now. right now. telemundo studios in miami, florida, and here is the week that was. >> kimberly chytil is a 29 year veteran of the secret service is out. >> july 15 we failed. as a director of the united to states secret service i take full responsibility for any security lapse of our agency. >> our enemies are your enemies. our fight is your fight and our victory will be your victory. >> our prime minister, and there is no pleasure in me saying this, has come here for political fear. >> there is outrage in illinois tonight after a woman was fatally shot in her own home by

a deputy after she called 911 to report an intruder. >> and the flame has been lit at the paris games. >> i revere this office but i love my country more. i decided the best way forward was to pass the torch to a new generation. >> i took on perpetrators of all crimes, predators who abused women. so hear me when i say i know donald trump's type. >> michelle and i couldn't be prouder to do our share to do everything we can to take you through this election and into the oval office. >> what a difference a week makes. kamala harris began last s. weekend as the vp pick on the biden/harris ticket and now just one week later, kamala

harris launches her presidential campaign blitz. more than 2300 events are being held across battleground states, staffed by 170,000 new volunteers that have joined the campaign since president joe biden's historic move not to n' run for a second term. kamala harris has come out swinging, delivering strong speeches this week at several rallies and events across the country. she's seen record breaking fundraising numbers, racking up endorsements from major party names like former president barack obama, and she's secured the majority of delegates needed to become the democratic nominee at the convention in august. not to mention the groundswell of grassroots support as several groups within days of her campaign announcement held zoom calls raising millions of dollars. joining me now is democratic congresswoman jasmine crockett, a member of the house oversight and accountability committee. congresswoman, it's always so good to see you. this past sunday, you were a part of that historic zoom call

held by women with black women. it raised over $1.5 million in just a few hours. talk a bit about how that call went and the enthusiasm that we are all seeing and feeling al since, harris jumped into the race. >> first of all, i just want to say thank you to my amazing sorority sister jessica. she has been doing the win with black women call ever since the pandemic, since 2020. obviously is normally not over 40,000 women that join us and so definitely there have to be some adjustments made for zoom but nevertheless, you could feel the excitement, and this was on the day of the announcement, so this was on that very first day, that someday that she was able to organize and pull these women out, and i could not be more proud. but then again, it will was very fresh. it was the exact same day and the next day we saw them with black men. we also ultimately ended up seeing one with asian folk, one with black folk. we saw everyone kind of coming

together and finally we saw white women for harris and they brought broke all the zoom records. well over 160,000 people. and so we are starting to see the excitement that we need to be able to take down frump and his maga cult. >> let's talk about donald trump. i want you to take a listen to something that donald trump said last night about christian voters. take a listen. >> and again, christians, get out and vote just this time! you won't have to do it anymore .4 more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine. you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful christians. i love you christians. >> okay, so, jasmine, let's talk about this because i've got maga coming at me now on social media, telling me that ci i'm crazy because my interpretation of what donald trump said was he's never going

to leave the oval office, and they are telling me two kind of resounding, repeated messages that i want to share with you. one, they are telling me that donald trump is too old to stay forever in the oval office, which i agree. i think he's too old. he's too old to be in the oval office. but number two, they are also telling me that donald trump peacefully left the last time he was in the oval office. and why am i saying that the man would never leave? i want to get your thoughts because i think those statements were stupid. >> i agree, donald is too old. he's been too old, he's been too crazy, he's been to everything. he's too much of a criminal, as well. no, y'all cut right before the really good part where he said i'm not a christian. i thought that that was amazing as the super christian folk are saying that he is our savior. but nevertheless, no, we know this guy has flirted with things such as tyranny, where he said things like i will only be a dictator on day one. we know that they tried to pull

a coup on us, even though they are now trying to make sure that they rewrite history and say oh no, this was just some sort of good patriots that were on a tour of the capital. they just happened to break ships, hurt people, and ultimately there were deaths, there were costs to replace as to january 6. so no, they are all absolutely about this life. we know that the supreme court has set it up so that he can do whatever he wants to, by giving him immunity, and we know that he picked j.d. vance because he wanted j.d. vance to do what mike pence wouldn't. ultimately what mike pence would not, steal the election for him and agreed to certify the election, they say hang mike pence. so when we started talking about violence and where it comes from, it is all started and ending with maga. >> the gop struggling, it seems, for a consistent message to attack kamala harris but

they sure were quick to unleash an oldie or goodie from the republican side, calling kamala harris a ddi higher. your thoughts on that? >> basically you just laid it out. they're racist. i've been calling them racist for a long time. when we go back to january 6 we know the neo-nazis were there. we know he told the proud boys to stand back and stand by, so they are always sending the dog whistle. but we are not crazy. we also know that when we look at diversity, equity and inclusion and when we tie into n affirmative action, we know that white women historically have benefited the most from affirmative action so they act as if when you say dei it only means a person of color, but actually it doesn't. diversity goes beyond just your color but nevertheless, we know that they have nothing but substance to contribute because if they did they would go after the substance. and so long as they continue with their dog whistles and

their nonsense, that only plays to their base, and their base alone cannot win this election. so as far as i'm concerned, we are winning. >> it's not just a dog whistle. i said the other day on ms that it was a bullhorn. really quickly, i have to say donald trump is chickening out of a debate with kamala harris. i think that's a big tell that he's not willing to go toe to toe with a former prosecutor like, the. r your thoughts on what donald trump can't buck up and actually do what he promised he was going to do. >> if i was donald, i wouldn't want to see another prosecutor, either, especially a black one because every time it seems us like a black prosecutor gets their hands on donald trump, it doesn't really go well for him. when you look at new york, whether you're looking at ag letitia james taken away his ability to operate businesses in the state of new york, or whether we are looking at alvin bragg and the fact that his freedom actually hangs in the balance because he's got these 34 felony convictions, in the hands of alvin bragg, or we look down in georgia where he's been running away from fani willis and turning it every which way that he could because

that grand jury was able to indict him and a number of his codefendants that pled guilty, and he does not want to face the music there. so yeah, if i was him, yeah, i would be shaking in my boots, as well. >> congresswoman jasmine crockett, i put on social media, ready for some truth telling and we got it with you. thanks for being here, i appreciate it. >> great to see you. joining me now, keisha lance bottoms, senior advisor to the harris campaign and the vice chair of the democratic national committee. keisha, it's an honor to have you on the show. there is some really good energy. we are all feeling it right now, well-paying vice president kamala harris to the campaign trail. but i wanted to speak with you and start first with the following. you were also a senior advisor to president biden. i think it takes a moment. we feel the celebratory energy about kamala but i think we've really got to give credit where credit is due, this idea of president joe biden, his legacy of passing a torch to another generation, but also doing so

with such decency. >> oh my gosh. i was so very proud to be a part of this incredible team and it really has been a biden/harris team the entire way. and when i watch the president in the oval office it reminded me of why i was so excited to support him as a candidate in 2020. just such dignity and i remember one of the first meetings i had with then in candidate by them, he said then that he wanted to be a bridge to the next generation, and he obviously we didn't know that it would work out this way. but he was absolutely right. he was spot on in picking then senator harris to serve as his vice president and to be a part of just this historic transition. i think really will speak to his legacy, in addition to all of the phenomenal work that this administration has been able to accomplish. >> i also thought it was important to have you on, to me, to quell some fears.

we've been hearing some rumblings about legal action being taken by the gop when it comes to the nomination of kamala harris. we do know she's secured the requisite number of delegates but look, there's a process lo that's going to happen at the dnc, at the convention next month in chicago. what's going on in terms of the rules, et cetera? from what i can tell, of what i've been hearing, there shouldn't be any type of legal problems if kamala harris ends up being the ultimate nominee. >> i think it's quite ironic that the party that supported an attempted overthrowing of the united states government is now concerned about how we are conducting our business as the democratic party. but that being said, the rules are now in place and if there is another candidate who wants r to throw their hat in the ring, they certainly have the ability to do that. we publish those rules, the number of delegates that are needed in order for that candidate to be considered for the nominee. but as you idknow, vice preside

harris has locked up commitments from the necessary delegates needed to ensure that she is our nominee, so we are pushing full speed ahead and the bump that you are already seeing with vice president harris is a bump that we are seeing before we've even gotten to the convention. so what, with all of this excitement, i'm really excited. people, everyone i talk to is really excited. but at the end of the day, people still have to show up and vote so that's where we're going to place our focus, in making sure that people are showing up to vote, focusing in especially in states that we know will make a tremendous w difference in this election, and just reminding people it's not over until it's over. ov >> so i'm not going to put you on the spot unless you're coming the invitation to be mi able to say who you think the vp

pick should be for kamala harris. but i'm going to read a little bit of tea leaves because andy beshear, his name has been ea bandied about. we know that he's being vetted. he's heading to atlanta tomorrow, to the battleground state of georgia, to campaign for kamala harris. what are your thoughts about this kind of vp process we are seeing right now? >> angry single person whose name we've heard will run circles around j.d. vance. they are all exceedingly qualified and as someone who's been through this process before, it's a very stressful process. so god bless them all going through this. but at the end of the day, each of the people whose names we've heard mentioned have said whether they are the vp or not, they will support kamala harrisy in making sure that we defeat donald trump. and i really don't think that you could go wrong with any of the names who have been mentioned. >> i'm going to agree with you. i don't think it's diplomacy to say that it is an embarrassment of riches in terms of the veepstakes that's going on right now. i think any of them would be an amazing complement to president, harris. keisha lance bottoms, i encourage you so much for

joining me today. >> thank you for having me. a quick running note for all of our viewers. tomorrow, 100 days out from rr election day, you've got arif elsie, jen psaki, ari miller e, and more. they're going to break down what comes next in this historic presidential election now that vice president kamala harris is the presumptive democratic nominee. watch all day tomorrow on msnbc beginning at 8:00 a.m. eastern. coming up here, the women wildcard. how female voters could decide the outcome of the 2024 election and how democrats are hoping to convince white suburban women in particular to come on over to their side. and later, scotus scrutiny. i justice elena kagan wants to enforce ethics rules for her and her colleague on the supreme court. stay with us. stay with us. i thought i was sleeping ok... but i was waking up so tired. then i tried new zzzquil sleep nasal strips. their four—point lift design opens my nose for maximum air flow. so, i breathe better. and we both sleep better.

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this week zoom was caulking over time as several grassroots groups to to the online service to organize and fund raise in support of vice president kamala harris. that includes a group of white women who actually broke zoom after nearly 200,000 of them joined the call in support of harris's campaign. and joining me now is shannon watts, the founder of mom's demand action and the organizer of the white women answer the

call zoom call. shannon, i was so excited to have you on the show, because look, i dialed in for that zoom call on thursday. i was even doing it remotely from a plane but i was so excited to hear the energy on that call. but i need to know, at last count it was nearly 200,000 women that raised over $8.5 million in less than 90 minutes. but i think these numbers are still growing. so what are the latest on that call? >> i woke up to an email this morning saying that we have now raised over $11 million from a two hour call, which is pretty astronomical, and i'm just so thrilled and grateful for everyone who has donated. >> i mean i have to pick up my jaw off the floor a little bit, because i saw from followers and people on social media, a

lot of these people that gave the money from this call, these are some first-time donors, number one, but number two, a lot of them signed up for recurring contributions because they believe so much in this. i was looking at some of the stats and i was looking at pew research, for example. it said that white women in the last two presidential elections supported donald trump over the democratic nominee and that number was like 47% to 45% in 2016 but the group to 53% in 2020. how much did that play into your decision to organize this call? >> for me the way it started was i saw a woman named ortega eady having a call with women with black women, just hours after kamala harris was clearly going to be the presumptive nominee. and 44,000 people, they raised nearly 1,000,000 1/2 dollars and then the next day black men did the same thing. and when i woke up tuesday morning i thought, our white women going to do this, too? we have a lot of political power and economic power that we can tap into. and so i just put a tweet out

saying, you know, who is in. and the response was just overwhelming. and in two days we were able to pull this huge call to get a. it was the largest zoom call in history. we kept crashing because there were so many people on the platform. we had to go to other social media streaming services, in all about 200,000 people, as you said, saw it. look, i think white women, the conversation we needed to have was less of a rally and more of a reckoning around the data that you just gave. and you know if you look even further back than the last two elections, the majority of white women have only voted for democrats twice in the last -- since the 1950s. and so we have a lot of work to do if we wanted to let the first woman, the first black woman, the first aapi woman president, and that's what thursday night's conversation was about. >> i want to make sure that our viewers know, it's not just white women it's black men, black women, south asians, lgbtq+ supporters that are doing these zoom calls. what is the common cause here that's creating this amazing diversity of a coalition?

>> i just think there's so many people who are so excited about electing kamala harris president and want to get involved in their own way. and books, to be clear, we're coming together as a much larger coalition. in fact, on monday night women for harris is having a conference call and our call sent so many new volunteers to them, they actually had to move the call by one day to get the technology up date needed to have all of those colors on the line. so i would hope that everyone will sign up for the vote for harris call on monday night because we will get very specific marching orders about what to do next, and over the next 100 days, to make sure that kamala harris is president. >> you just stole my thunder a little bit because i really wanted to ask you, how does this momentum stay between now and november? >> i think the energy is so overwhelming and so palpable. it just proves how electable kamala harris is and this is about organizing, and that's

what you're seeing happen on these calls. it's just a first step to what we need to do to get out the vote. we need everyone to be making calls, to be knocking doors. maybe to spend some time in a swing state this summer so that you can get out the vote. we all need to do our part and we can't afford to sit on the sidelines. as they say, democracy is something that we all need to get involved in. otherwise it won't drive, it will fail. the choice is so stark in november, right, between freedom and fascism. so i would just ask everyone is watching us today to figure out a piece of the work that they can take on and then commit to doing it over the next 100 days. and if we all do that, we will win. >> shannon watts, my friend, it's always so good to see you and thank you for sharing not only the energy but also the sense of urgency that's really going to help carry this momentum through november. i always appreciate you. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, justice for all? as jack smith tackles his

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the moment i met him i knew he was my soulmate. "soulmates." soulmate! [giggles] why do you need me? [laughs sarcastically] but then we switched to t-mobile 5g home internet. and now his attention is spent elsewhere. but i'm thinking of her the whole time. that's so much worse. why is that thing in bed with you? this is where it gets the best signal from the cell tower! i've tried everywhere else in the house! there's always a new excuse. well if we got xfinity you wouldn't have to mess around with the connection. therapy's tough, huh? -mmm. it's like a lot about me. [laughs] a home router should never be a home wrecker. oo this is a good book title. as the great lenny kravitz once said, so many tears we've cried, so much pain inside, but they be ain't over until it's over. so call me a hopeless optimist but i'm a true believer that donald trump will still face accountability for his lithic

priming and special counsel jack smith is fueling my hopes with his appeal and trump's classified documents case. the 11th circuit two days ago setting the briefing schedule for the appeal. jack smith will have until august 27 to file his initial brief, trump having 30 days after that to file his response, and smith has the option to file a reply brief. admittedly, the timing isn't ideal, with election day right around the corner. but america will still be reminded of how donald trump used the oval office to intentionally keep our nation's most classified secrets. joining me now is preet bharara, former united states attorney of the southern district of new york, the host of the stay tuned with preet co- host and the cohost of the cafe insider podcast. it's such an honor to have you on the show. i have in question that i know a lot of our viewers have, as well. license special counsel jack smith moving the 11th circuit to do expedited briefing on this appeal? >> this is a good question. great to be with you, always

nice to be on your show. you pointed it out in your intro. the timing is not ideal even in the best case scenario, the most expedited possible appeal would not be concluded before the election. and probably would not be concluded before the swearing in of the next president, whether it's, harris or donald trump. so i guess for those reasons they must've made a tactical decision not to go overboard and try to expedite it further. i think the more important question, which i'm sure you were about to ask or get to is when they make the appeal, are they going to simultaneously ask for the recusal or the disqualification of judge cannon, who is alone in her legal view and legal conclusion about the unconstitutionality of the special counsel. and i think there's a reasonable chance that they will do that. >> i also wanted to have you on because you had a storied and incredibly successful career at the doj and if we look at

project 2025, it's explicit. it lays out a roadmap of how trump is going to control the doj, centralizing control within the executive branch. it actually says in the project 2025 blueprint, quote, while the supervision of legislation is a doj policy, the project falls under the direct supervision and control of the president of the united states as a component of the executive branch. litigation decisions must be made consistent with the president's agenda. how would a second trump presidency framed by project 2025 destroy any independence of a department of justice? >> for all those reasons you just described, donald trump is trying to distance himself from project 2025 because he's seeing how unpopular it is, deeply unpopular it is, with the electorate at large. meanwhile the heritage foundation that's responsible for project 2025 was also responsible, largely responsible for the makeup of the supreme court on the conservative side, and the people who have written many of the portions of project 2025 our very, very close former advisors of donald trump. and by the way, this whole idea of controlling the justice department from the white house, from the oval office, notwithstanding decades and decades of norms or the

country, is something that donald trump deeply believes in himself. he tried to get jim kony to do things. he tried to get jeff sessions to not recuse himself. he tried to get bill barr and others, who were prepared only to go so far along with donald trump's agenda. this is something, and by the way, my origin story of being back in the private sector was that donald trump tried to call me, the sitting u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, presumably to have an untoward relationship and cultivate me to do his bidding potentially and i didn't take the call. i wouldn't speak to him because i thought it was inappropriate on the subject of the call, and i was terminated. so as much as he wants to distance himself from this radical weaponization idea of project 2025, every impulse and inclination on his part is completely in line with it. >> you got the chance to sit down on your amazing podcast, stay tuned with preet, with second gentleman doug emhoff. no spoilers here because i think every buddy should subscribe and listen to your

podcast but i wanted to quickly get your thoughts on having a former prosecutor as a candidate for potus like we have an kamala harris. and even doug emhoff's background as a lawyer for more than 30 years, and him serving as such an effective advocate for his wife's policies. >> so i think she's uniquely situated. excuse me, to talk about some of these issues we've been discussing. back in 2020, when she was running a democratic primary, i think her qualifications and track record and expertise and background as a prosecutor was not quite as, i think, propulsive for somebody running in the democratic primary. but now in a general election, four years later, when you had a presumptive evidence or not presumptive, an actual republican nominee who has been convicted of a series of crimes in one jurisdiction, has cases pending against him of a criminal nature in three other jurisdictions, the setting and the posture of a prosecutor versus somebody who is a convicted felon and could be convicted three more times, is a lot more compelling. and i think she can bring to bear her reputation and

experience in fighting for the rule of law, holding corrupt people accountable, holding the rich and accountable people accountable, in a way that was not as resident in 2020, given the nature of the election and the nature of the primaries. i think it's a very powerful thing and i do encourage you to listen to doug emhoff on the podcast as he's a strong, strong advocates and a powerful and articulate one on behalf of vice president kamala harris in this election. and also talks about issues that are incredible important, including the rise of anti- semitism and the fight for reproductive rights. he's a powerful force and ally of the vice president. >> he really is exceptional and i think he is a great complement to hopefully president kamala harris. preet bharara, thank you so much for joining me today and i encourage everybody to tune in and listen to your podcast. thanks for being here. coming up, enforcing ethics in the wake of several rulings that have legal scholars scratching their heads. one supreme court justice wants outside oversight on the nation's highest court and she's getting support from a very powerful ally. we'll explain, coming up next. .

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the calls for reform are coming from inside the courts. this week supreme court justice

elena kagan publicly calling for chief justice roberts to appoint a panel of judges that will enforce a new code of conduct adopted by the court in november. kagan same, quote, rules usually have mechanisms attached to them, and this one, this set of rules does not. the supreme court has been dogged by demands for reform after several controversial rulings that have overturned precedent left and right but now president joe biden is entering the chat, vowing to focus on the court as he sunsets his presidency. >> over the next six months i'll be focused on doing my job as president. on going to call for supreme court reform, because this is critical to our democracy. >> joining me now, my friend ellie missed all, correspondent for the nation, host of contempt of court podcast and the author of the new york times bestseller, allow me to retort, a black guy guide to

the institution. is always a good to see you. before i get to your latest piece for the nation, which i do think was fantastic, i have to talk about elena kagan. i have to ask, why is she asking for it now? i mean timing is everything and she's always been kind of one of the bigger, better arbiters of justice on that supreme court. but this sounds a little funky here and i'm grateful for what i did is saying, but what is going on, why now? >> to quote sam seaborn from the west wing, let's ignore the fact that they are a little late to the party and embrace the fact that they showed up at all. that's my starting position, the least care here now. why does kagan say this now? because remember kagan signed on to the weak sauce ethics reform along with all the other supreme court justices, knowing full well there was no enforcement mechanism when she signed onto it. so why now is she coming out with this idea that maybe there should be some enforcement mechanism? well i think that's because joe biden has shown up to the party late and now he's interested in doing some supreme court reform. we already know that kamala harris has been interested in supreme court ethics reform, especially from when she was running for president the first

time, right? so i think what kagan is doing is sending out a little signal because she's not like brett kavanaugh in that. she's not going to call up joe and be like, hey -- that's not how kagan operates. kagan actually has an ethical center. so what i think she is doing through the media is signaling to the biden administration, signaling to a potentially harris administration that there are some people on the court, at least i can think of three of them, who would be interested in taking this weak sauce ethics reform and making it something real by having third-party oversight. now the problem with kagan's idea is that this idea has already been rejected by the conservatives. and i refer specifically to brett kavanaugh. people remember dr. ford. people remember his horrible confirmation hearing. but let's not forget, after he was confirmed, there were still 83 ethics complaints outstanding against brett kavanaugh, and 10th circuit

chief judge tim kovich said he could not rule. he did not exonerate rhett. he dismissed the 83 ethics complaints, saying that as a lower court judge, he had no authority to impose any kind of sanctions or penalties on brett kavanaugh, right? so this idea that the lower court judges can impose the supreme court's ethics reform, i think it's a great idea. does chief justice john roberts think it's a great idea? do the other six conservatives think it's a great idea? because if not, we still have a fundamental problem. so this is a good thought, this is a good kind of test balloon and i think i'm happy to say that it looks like people in power in the democratic party are finally getting the memo that the supreme court is extremist and out-of-control and needs to be brought to heel. but we have a long way to go from these kind of test balloons to actual legislation and actual reform. >> actual legislation has been pushed by people like senator

ed markey. he's trying to get e- he's urging the judiciary act to get past and that would be a 13 justice supreme court of the united states. an expansion from 9 to 13. why such opposition to this? it's been done before, albeit a long time ago, but it's been done before and it invites more of a community of a discussion and a more balanced, i think, approach when it comes to dealing with some of the most momentous cases for the united states. >> people think that like this is like baseball where nine is some kind of sacred number. it ain't. the supreme court started with five, went to six, went to seven, went to nine, went to 10, then went back down to nine and that's where we've been for a while but there's nothing in the constitution that says there cannot be more justices than nine. and here's the key about markey's idea. here's the key about expanding the courts. the way that i put it, expanding the court is like giving an elephant a

tranquilizer dart before you put on the radio tracking collar so you can do all the other scientific things you want to do. i like ethics reform. i like term limits. but you can't get ethics reform and term limits past this nine- member supreme court. so you need to tranq it with more judges before you can have all your nice things. to use the elephant analogy, if you do that the wrong way around, right, you try to put the radio collar on before you tranq the elephant, you just get trampled. that's not a good day for the scientist. expanding the court is so we can get justices on the court who think that there should be an ethics reform, who think that they should have term limits, and then you can pass your legislation and not get those pieces of legislation not down, essentially vetoed by the 6-3 conservative supermajority who believes that they are above the law. >> it's like a cart/horse, horse/cart thing.

quickly, i have to let you go, your article you dropped, titled the where the people who claim, quote, america isn't ready for a black president, i agree we should beware. there's a line out of your piece, i want to quickly revert, which i thought was a good. you say it's not enough for whiteman to be in control of all the levers of power. they and those who do their bidding also have to make everybody else feel like they don't deserve power and want be able to have any, even if they try. tell us, how do we remove and eliminate any of this defeatist attitude that goes into the idea of a president harris administration? >> i just don't buy into the idea that america is not ready. because america has, by my clock, six months to get ready. right? we got six months to get ready for what's coming, and that's the only important thing. america will be ready for a black woman president once america votes for a black woman president, and there are all these reasons why we should vote for harris over the dictator who says that this will be the last election anybody has to vote for at all. like there are all sorts of

reasons to support harris in this election and america will get ready. this idea that it always needs to be later, that we are perpetually not ready for this or that change, that we all know everybody is asking for too much, too soon. most other major western democracies have already cleared this really basic low hurdle of full equality in electing a woman leader. we are behind. we are retrograde compared to the rest of the world on this issue. so if italy can do it and france can do it and england can do it, then you know what e- i think america can do it, too. perhaps i have a higher opinion of america than the conservatives who say that we are not ready, that we can't get this done. >> to quote the great kamala harris, we're not going back so if we are not going to go rivers and wearily going

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a revealing new surveys laying out which issues matter the most to the fastest-growing voting block -- the aapi community, and how those issues are consequential to their voting decisions. some of the top issues include jobs and the economy, inflation, healthcare, crime, education, social security, medicare and the cost of housing. and according to that same survey, before he dropped out, president biden was slipping among asian american voters. from 2020 to 2024 he actually lost eight points within that demographic but now the big

question becomes can vice president kamala harris, the first south asian and black jamaican american to lead a major party apps presidential ticket, reinvigorate this crucial part of the electorate? joining me now is christine chen, cofounder and executive director of api a vote. christine, always so good to see you. thanks for being here. look, 62% of asian voters favored the democratic party. do you think vice president kamala harris can capitalize on this existing advantage and capitalize more within the aapi community? >> you know we've already seen it, ever since the announcement. before this, the first half of this year i sort of felt like the community was very sleepy and there was no energy, but now asian american native hawaiians and pacific islanders are organizing and it's being led by the women. though historically, neither ticket can rely on the aapi vote without investment and engagement in providing

solutions on the issues. but harris has actually proven that she's not rely on her identity. she has shown up and engaged with our community in the last four years and more recently she showed up at our presidential town hall just two weeks ago. >> i just want to note for our viewers, the invitation was extended for somebody from the gop to show up at your amazing townhall, and nobody showed up from the republican side, and actually nobody came from the independent party. i do want to kind of focus on a kind of microcosm, because these battleground states are the ones that everybody is really focusing on, right? we kind of have an idea of how some of the bigger states are going to go but there's these battleground states we really focusing on. one of them is georgia. asian american voters are among georgia's fastest rowing voting blocks. between 2016 and 2020, aapi voter turnout in georgia increased by 84%. christine, how are recent laws

that for example place more restrictions on voting, like we've seen implemented and instituted in states like georgia, going to be affecting the outcome of an aapi voter? >> we do know that in 2022, 73% of our community chose to vote early or by mail. with these restrictions we do have to do a lot more reeducation of our community, about what their options are and helping them make their plan to vote. we also know that 28% are limited english proficient and that's why they lean toward mail-in ballots where they can take the time to be at home with their family and friends, to go over the ballot and be able to cast that properly. so it is about reeducation of our community, doing outreach, not only from the nonpartisan community but this is where the role of the political parties. we know that in 2020, 1 in 4 ballots cast by aapis voted for the first time in many of the battleground states. that actually translated in georgia. 39,001st time aapi voters that showed up where biden went by

less than 12,000, right? so our numbers, we are over indexing and bringing in new voters is quite crucial and ensure that they understand what are their options in terms of casting their ballot. >> christine, you bring up an issue that's not exclusive to the asian american native hawaiian pacific islander community, language a barrier. i think what you guys have a key finding is that 72% of asian american voters speak a language other than english at home and the aapi vote is not just one big block, right? it's different groups of communities and cultures and languages and dialects that are a part of it. how important is it to make sure that any candidate going to november, make sure that voter attitudes and what impacts them the most is being addressed, especially when you have stuff like cultural barriers and language barriers. >> we've already been hearing from our colleagues and our partners on the ground that even the switch in terms of

biden to harris, there actually has to be education done, especially with the limited english proficient communities. there's been questions like oh, biden is no longer running, what does that mean, right? so even though there's a lot of discussion in mainstream press and those who are english proficient, there needs to be a lot more engagement. this is where i think the excitement of organizers coming together, those that have never participated, and also younger voters that are now energized are going to be helpful in terms of doing that engagement. and it's also coupled by this is where we are always asking that the political parties need to do their job in investing resources. >> yes. for all you guys out there, don't listen to just the aunties on your facebook page

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