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mohyeldin . let's do this. early this week, hillary clinton published a op-ed within your times laying out what she believes kamala harris can win the presidential election. she expressed hope about the harris campaign while acknowledging the additional challenges she faces as the first black woman and first south asian women at the top of a major party ticket, writing, quote, that is real but we should not be afraid. it is a trap to believe that progress is possible. she knows what she is saying, she knows what she is talking about, those words are coming from former presidential candidate that whether onset of republican attacks based on her gender during the 2016 campaign that gets to the heart of the question we are asking the night in 2024, what, if anything, has changed since the last eight years? since 2016, movements shaped the way the public talks about women and the gender movement,

the me too movement, exposed sexual harassment and topple powerful mental supreme court overturn roe v wade, the federal right to abortion. in recent years, the gop has repeatedly proven that is -bent on controlling women's bodies and it is doubling down on that effort as one independent voter retired nurse, 64-year-old karen crowley in new hampshire told the new york times, quote, women are angrier, that can be motivating. that takes us to 2024, former president donald trump and his allies are tagging his new woman opponent of the presidential race. >> hillary endorsed kamala harris, obviously because she is a woman. >> this woman who was literally dei higher, a woman that lasts about little yellow school buses and then diagrams, who cackles like an insane woman, how are you going to jump, skip over her because she is female and her skin color is the correct dei color.

>> biden said first off, he will hire a black female former vice president. he just skipped over it, what about white females, what about any other group? when you go down that route, you take mediocrity and that is what they have right now. >> what? those comments you just heard are more resounding condemned criticized for what they are today, tired discriminatory tropes. comments like these are galvanizing. take for instance, the widespread women's breadéof this research is 2021 comment from j.d. vance, he called harris one of the, quote, childless cat ladies who wants to make the rest of the country miserable too. those remarks spark rattling cry from proud cat ladies around the country from jennifer aniston to swifties everywhere. there is the candidate herself, kamala harris, back in 2020, hillary clinton's top campaign adviser, jennifer palmieri told politico, quote, harris has her

whole life had to be very clear about who she is, a woman of color, a woman of mixed race, she had to really define herself and that is why i think it is hard for people to throw her off her game in a way other women candidates get pigeonholed. joining me to discuss is juanita tolliver, analyst and host of what a day podcast. amisha cross, democratic strategist and former obama campaign strategist and best- selling author, for the love of men, publisher of airplaned love. i will start with what jennifer palmieri wrote in politico, do you agree in the face of all of these republican attacks the vice president is facing, do you agree it is in fact hard to throw her off her game? >> 100%. one of the key trademarks of vice president harris' entire career is being

the first, often times, the only in a lot of high-power situations from district attorney to attorney general of california, senator of california were only three black women have held that post and it's 250 year history. now as the first and southeast asian woman to serve as vice president. yes, she had to deal with racism in closed-door environments as well as in public for decades. that is why it will be very hard to move her in this way. i also appreciate what was mentioned by the independent voter that you quoted, i want to say, don't underestimate the power of ticked off women because that is something that will absolutely be galvanizing and mobilizing a cross race in a way we did not see in 2016. publicly, and away we did not see in 2016 that we are seeing now, especially after win with

black women started a trend of organizing online that now asian american women, latina women, white women have followed suit. i hear white dudes are doing it next week too. i think that energy is something infectious that we will see spread throughout 2024. >> let's talk about who off someone is j.d. vance, his machismo would galvanize the base, that is what they were budding. his extreme views and attacks on women, childless cat ladies, everything he said about marriages and his obsession with the nuclear family, can all of that backfired and can it backfire within parts of the space? >> an absolutely can. i think because the vision j.d. vance has, essentially a little house on the prairie in 2024, is that one people are living. in america today, 50% of marriages end in divorce, a lot of single parent household, single-parent households that did not start as such.

overwhelming women of millennial age are not having children and they are not having children for a variety of reasons. some have fertility issues, we can see the right pushing against in vitro, some can afford to have children because of the high cost of, not able to have children and afford childcare at the same time, something the biden/harris administration fought for and pushed back against by republicans in congress. they did not want affordable childcare. we think about the context of how american women are living, more women in college today than ever had, more women with graduate degrees, more women owning small businesses in this nation has ever seen and a larger voting bloc of women than the nation has ever seen he picked the wrong target and i think, to be honest, expound on this way beyond j.d. vance. j.d. vance is saying what the republicans have legislated against over and over, he is

putting a face to their policies. he is not the originator of those policies, he is a young person who is showcasing the older ones in congress making the decisions and statehouses across the country are pushing against because i don't want to see women be able to make their own decisions. they don't want to see women leave their husbands when they're beating them, i lost three really close friends to domestic violence so it is a very serious issue for me personally. when i look out and see the vision j.d. vance has for america, it is quite frankly the execs envision the republican party at the federal level and state level are currently implementing . >> have to say, liz, this is something hillary clinton back then did warn could happen, getting to the point, i think it is inevitable to talk about past. when i think about 2016, i think about then candidate clinton, her closing message was , trump, the man who bragged about sexually assaulting women, that man was not fit to be president. and it did not work. what has changed since then in your eyes? >> that is such a great question. there's a difference between 2016 and 2024. 2016, let's be honest, there's operable enthusiasm gap between men and

women in the excitement of having a first female president. one thing that changed since 2016, men. as we mentioned, there are more black men that mobilized within hours, like 53,000 black men on a zoom raising over $1 million. there are white dudes for kamala harris meeting on monday. i'm getting so many of these invites and getting them from all different parts of the country. there is a real shift with how men are feeling about this, they feel just as excited as women are. do you know who has changed? donald trump changed, he is a different man than 2016. 2016, he was credibly accused of rape, 2024, adjudicated rape. men can change, it is possible, with it would donald trump and men across the country. >> i would still argue this form of sexism and misogyny is still normalized and you spent so much time talking about

this, writing about this, talking to all of us about it, educating us, what have you learned about the best way to combat all of this, the misogyny ? >> that is a great question. i think we have to spend time, the republicans want to talk about abortion, childless cat ladies, they don't want to talk about what the reality will be for men if all of this, project 2025 and all of these very violent choices get passed, men's freedoms will be limited, men's privacy will be limited. with the whole deicing, republicans came up with one word to be both sexist and racist at the same time, very efficient. if we were to talk about di, elected because of your gender and not qualifications, they should love that because donald trump is the first di president, he did not have the qualifications at all, he had the right gender and skin color which is why he got into power. he did not know what nato was.

if a woman had the qualifications he had, she would never be in power. di, republicans made it up and it helped them a lot more than us. >> don't go anywhere, you are all sticking right because next, we need to discuss the vice president plan to protect access to reproductive care. —- . —shhhhh! no need to be quiet. switch to t-mobile, get four iphone 15's on us plus four lines for $25 a line. ♪♪ my name's trevor. i've tried other diets in the past plus four lines for $25 a line. never lasted before too long my cravings came back especially my sugar cravings and i fell off the wagon. release worked fast. my sweet tooth is gone. i'm so happy with my progress and now i love myself.

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>> nota freedom, where you >> the freedom not just to get by to get ahead, the freedom to be safe from gun violence, the freedom to make decisions about your own body. we choose a future where no child lives in poverty, where we can all afford healthcare. where no one is above the law. we believe in the promise of america and we are ready to fight for it. >> vice president, harris launched her official campaign for president this week i promising something we all want, freedom. that includes

the freedom to have an abortion. harris' uniquely positioned to deliver the message in a way president biden couldn't. as a vice president, loud objective abortion bans and conservative efforts to curtail ivf and contraception. according to the white house, when harris visited the planned parenthood clinic in minnesota in march, she became the first vice president or president to ever visit an abortion clinic on the campaign trail, she promised to sign legislation that would restore freedoms. a key question remains, does this message of freedom have the capacity to convince even more voters that abortion rights are on the line again this november? my missing panel is back with me, let's talk about abortion. juanita, let's talk with you, abortion has always been a major mobilizing issue for democrats but in what ways does the vice president travis new role as presumptive nominee change this whole momentum? >> let me start by saying, it feels good to have a candidate

who actually say the word, abortion. and say it in the context of donald trump, who beats his chest repeatedly about singer handedly overturning roe v wade and in the context of other issues you mentioned about access and attacks on ivf and contraception. telling the well-rounded story in accessible weight is absolutely something joe biden never did while on the campaign trail, i think also backing it up with her years of advocating for these rights as a senator and vice president is also critical because she knows what the fight is about. when it comes to 2024, i want to argue one point, abortion access has broader appeal beyond democrats looking back to 2022 and 2023 ballot initiatives in states like kentucky, kansas, montana that appeal to voters across race, across demographic age, across partisanship because when the question of protecting those

rights in those state constitutions were presented, voters overwhelmingly said yes. i think that will be a massive driver, we have valid initiatives in florida, nevada, potentially same in arizona as well, all key states for democrats to try to pick up or hold strong to in 2024, that will be something else that propels the message forward. >> i think part of the difference in that message is the way the campaign is framing the issue of abortion, not just as a fundamental right that the fight for freedom, reclaiming this, taking the word in a way republicans somehow co-opted. purely from a messaging standpoint, what effect does that have? >> i think it is a very powerful message, freedom is what america was founded on, freedom is the epicenter of what this country is. i think it is an oxymoron to an extent considering this nation's history of slavery as well i think when we think about freedom, to your point, it has largely been snatched by

the right. i think putting it in context, talking about freedoms, freedom to learn, freedom to have access to books trying to get banned across the country by republicans because they don't want you to know the true history or the cultures represented here in the diversity of this country up to and including freedom of women to be able to choose the path of their future, whether they want to have kids, delay having kids, whether they want to have kids via ivf. these things will make a difference. i also think what we have seen here is a seismic shift and the pure amount of people understand that applies to them. quite currently, a lot of people, many of them women, never thought they would be in a position to actually have an abortion so this was not their issue to step out in front of. i think right now, when you see women's reproductive rights include the right to choose up to and including disastrous cases where the woman wanted to have the child and unfortunately, something happened that caused her to have to abort that child. her life would be at risk if

she did make that decision, up to her eight month, she is really fighting, mind you, republicans try to make it two it happens to everyone, it is less than 1% of cases. very severe cases, we saw the woman in texas that thought there would be exceptions, she would be allowed to access this care because she did not receive it, would not be able to have kids in the future. they said, no, you are waiting on republicans decide whether or not your life is at risk. irrespective of what your doctor is saying, your uterus and ability to bear kids in the future. those types of instances make it make sense to be fair, between 2011 and 2013, we saw hundreds of bills across the country be introduced, that was the obama years, hundreds of bills introduced to states to restrict women's abortion rights. this is not a new fight, the thing is, women did not step up to the plate to bear it as much as they are now, many did not see it. we are in a different era. >> liz, talk about those women, that perhaps, are not resonating yet with the vice president. i'm thinking about nbc news,

they did a focus group with nikki haley swing voters, i'm wondering, what you think the way about abortion potentially, broadly speaking, potentially swing these undecided voters toward the left? >> yeah, that is the key question. talking about freedom and framing it around that issue, which is seen as a right-wing, owned by the right-wing. not just about freedom, also about privacy. americans value their privacy on all sides of the aisle. here is what it comes down to would donald trump and abortion and privacy, i don't think a man who evades questions about how many abortions he paid for should be preventing other people from getting them. donald trump values his right to privacy, he did not want to answer that question when asked. why don't other, why does a guy

apply to other americans? there's a double standard, the more we talk about that, points to the right of privacy and expand the conversation this is not just anti-abortion agenda, this is anti-tran30 agenda, project 2025 doesn't just want to restrict abortion, they want to ban pornography but i have quotes, pornography should be outlawed. quote, the people that produce it should be in prison. for young women, young men, he did not want to see their lives regulator and want to keep their internet browser private, these are issues not just sort of ideas, they have a real impact in their daily lives. the more, that is what we talk about, not just controlled women, it is control of you too, men included. >> winnie wright, as liz is talking about this, i think republicans recognize how unpopular many of their stances are, in particular the

antiabortion stance. they are aware of how unpopular it is, they barely mentioned it at the rnc. however, they cannot hide from what they have said on record. i want to play the sound bite from then ohio's senate candidate j.d. vance in 2022 envisioning what the future would look like when roe was overturned. >> i certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally. let's say that roe versus wade is overruled, ohio bans abortion in 2022, let's say 2024, then every day, george soros sends a 747 to columbus to load up disproportionately black women to get them to have abortions in california. the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity. >> roe was overturned exactly 6 months after this podcast. your reaction to this. >> you know what is nauseating?

how much he was able to cram into that response, anti- semitism, anti-woman, the racism, like all of these sentiments. as amisha cross said earlier, he is not introducing anything new, just giving a younger face and voice to what republicans truly believe and envision to do. when he talked about a national ban, do not discredit that, just like trump said in 2016, he had his full intentions outlined publicly, said it to the nation repeatedly and that came into fruition when he was elected. roe v. wade is no more, it was overturned in 2022. when they call for national bans on accessing abortion rights, believe them and fight like hell to prevent it at the polls . >> bring back what we set a couple minutes ago, exactly what secretary clinton warned us about. list line, thank you for joining, i appreciate it, juanita, you're staying with me. next we are joined by docket recipient and discuss

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>> [ speaking in a global language ] remember that sound? what you just heard was the gutwrenching audio taken by propublica that went viral in 2018, children just separated from their parents at the border under then president trump's zero-tolerance policy. more than 3900 were taken from their families. although trump signed executive order to end that divisive and unpopular policy, the practice continued. to this day, more than 1000 children still remain separated from their families. the studies have shown that separating families has long- term and damaging psychological

impacts. some children are not able to recognize their mothers after they are reunited. despite all of this, despite what you heard, despite all of the heartbreak, trump has promised to move forward with the largest deportation effort in american history if he were to win the presidency again. a move that would surely again result in separation of families and result in a lot of the sounds that you heard it juanita and ameshia are back with me and joining the conversation is the ceo and founder of a nonprofit that helps mixed immigration status families work through trauma. she is a docket recipient and one of the main organizers. i will start with you because anytime i need to know what is happening on the ground, you are one of my first calls. i'm wondering in this moment, as you are facing a gop that promised if trump wins, they will enact the largest mass

deportation in american history, wondering the type of conversations the community is having on the ground right now, what are they discussing, what are they talking about, how are they planning for this potential ? >> the reality of the families and students we are working with is it is so palpable, anxiety and fear are constantly present in our lives and we don't have to imagine what it will look like with another trump administration, it is heartbreaking to see students in high school are worrying about what would happen if their parents were to be deported, anxiety and stress risen when students should only be focusing on math or english homework. as we are preparing for this, we are thinking through, what are some of the possibilities students who are minors, under the age of 18 have to do to remain in their country? the majority of children, 4.4 million children that are u.s.

citizens of undocumented parents. >> someone organizing the community, you have republicans hyper focused on vice president harris and trying to label her as the biden administration supporters are, this new name they are attaching to her. listen to what j.d. vance just said a couple minutes ago at a rally tonight in minnesota. take a listen. >> everybody knows kamala harris owns every failure of the ultra liberal policies the last four years. as america's borders are, she was the border's . >> that title is misleading, she was never directly put in charge of the border or immigration policy. what she was tasked to do was to address the root causes of migration, important to dispel the myths. republicans love to blame democrats on this, juanita. this is what they do, the fear mongering. what is your response to that?

>> the fear mongering and the lies because that will be replayed and stated by republicans across the country the next three months. i think the reality is, democrats have to go a step further clarifying that no, this is not true. also remind voters of who is to blame for blocking the latest effort to address issues at the border. one donald trump, when he called congressional republicans and demanded that they block the bipartisan deal to address the border that congressional republicans in the house and senate negotiated with the biden/harris administration and gained ridiculous concessions on in terms of investments and order patrol and other things advocate saw as very harmful to the entire process and engagement at the border. republicans got those concessions and they went behind donald trump and his demand to sink that earlier this year. that is what we need to be talking about, about why

donald trump think those investment that would help, even begin to address some of the issues at the border, not the lies about kamala harris >> ameshia , i do think the lies and fear mongering have reached a lot of people, i think about the fact that even some latino voters are warming up to this idea of mass deportation, some latino voters are really resonating with that anti-immigrant rhetoric. do you think vice president harris has an opportunity to unite americans in that sense, to bring people of color together, to cut through the noise? >> i absolutely think so and i want to return to something just said by juanita because we have to remember how we got here . republicans, led by donald trump, did not want to have a policy in place that would lessen some of the trauma at the border, increased patrols but also provide humanitarian relief for a lot of those separated families and wring them back together because of

what happened before the election, donald trump would not be able to take credit for in his hopes of getting re- elected. i think that is one thing. in addition to the fact, several news sources at the time who did run falsified title kamala harris as the border's , some came back and retracted the statements three years too late. we have to look at american public unfortunately become largely anti-immigrant, we have american public leaning in on these messaging points, specifically xenophobia, what the republicans have done, not recent, they've done this for years, attack immigration as a means of americans losing their jobs, a means of americans have a harder struggle. today, so many people feel as though they are not where they need to be talking about the cost of living, feel like they're not getting paid the wages they need to be able to afford that cost-of-living, with inflation, even though has gone down, it is nowhere near what we see in europe, americans live in america so they don't compare to europe. you have various people leaning

in on this, including some people who are latino descent. i think it is problematic but i also think kamala harris, she had these discussions, in the communities, talking to the cities were a lot of migrants were sent to like my hometown of chicago, several pluses in and around new york city, several places were failed, many ways along the border. there's a humanitarian and honesty we have to have about american public leaning in in an xenophobia, they need a bogeyman and republicans have done a very good job making immigrants, making undocumented immigrants that bogeyman. america has to reset that, that is a job for kamala harris and the job of the democratic party . if republicans were smart and not continuing their racist mantra, it would be their job as well. in america, we do not survive without immigrants. our culture does not survive without immigrants, our workforce does not survive without immigrants. >> reyna , i think it is true everyone is looking at vice president harris to see what

her approach will be to immigration and the border. i ask this because we know some of president biden's immigration policies like one of the most recent executive orders that he passed severely curtails migrants legal and human rights to seek asylum and the that executive order has been widely criticized. i mention this because in exclusive interview's cbs, you heard harris' campaign chief suggesting, the vice president would potentially continue this border crackdown if elected. what do both, democrats and republicans need to understand about how all of these policies impact people on the ground? >> the reality is, we are talking about human beings and this rhetoric, one, it does not address the root causes of why people are migrating, two, we are seen as the bogeyman and we are often times seen as the scapegoat. three, it does not acknowledge the majority of immigrants in the united states, over 70% of

the immigrants are here with some legal status. my hope for the harris administration moving forward, if she were to be elected, is to keep building the momentum i'm the executive orders supporting u.s. citizen, children, spouses, supporting dreamers and how we get to the root of the problem and get congress to get to the root of the problem. reyna montoya, grosse he is. juanita and ameshia , thanks for sticking with me. up next, why elon musk is on the worst of the week.

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then billionaire elon musk? i will tell you why, at first, he denied reporting from the wall street journal he is donating $45 million a month to a pro-trump pac with you to personally gordon peterson, musk says he is not part of maga, saying, quote, i don't subscribe to a cult of personality. then he used the platform to accuse the, quote, woke mind virus of killing his a strained transgender daughter, he dead named and missed gendered his daughter. in a rare interview with nbc news, wilson said, quote, i think he was under the assumption i wasn't going to say anything and i would let this go unchallenged, which i'm not going to do. wilson said that when she was a child, musk would harass her for exhibiting feminine traits and pressure hurt to be more masculine. musk did not respond to requests for comment. if that was not enough, must train made a splash when he attended israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu speech to

congress as his personal guest. after democratic lawmakers like alexandria ocasio-cortez. juanita and ameshia are back with me. let's read the tweet, responded to musk, sometimes being quiet is free and good for you. attached to that tweet was a headline that musk himself retweeted anti-semitic post. what do you have to say? >> he is unhinged, like you said with the intro. i feel like what is not mentioned with your run down, his is and is lost a lot of money this week, limited numbers. i think it's a great week when

elon musk loses money because that means he is less money available to cause harm. even though he denied giving 45 million to the trump campaign each month, he is starting a super pac, my caution to everyone, watch his actions, not his words because starting super pac, his platform to perpetuate the same things he abuses and accuses other people of doing and causes dramatic harmful behavior to his own children and i'm grateful to vivian, her speaking up and out against his harmful behavior she has endured for years. >> let's talk about vivian, she is never given an interview before, she did tell nbc news she felt compelled to speak because, quote, if you're going to lie about me, blatantly to an audience of millions, i'm not going to let that slide. what is your take on this? go her, how brave.

>> absolutely. as a cautious reader of his commentary, anybody reading that would not be able to walk away with the fact his daughter was still with us on this earth. he made it seem like this young woman was no longer here. to have her stuff out to say, no, i left him, i have nothing to do with this man anymore and the reasons were outside very poignantly outlining the abuse, talking about how she was forced to, certain traits or he would disown her. she made a conscious choice and uplifted what he does on a regular basis on his current platform, attacking people who are trance, attacking them in sports, on their own personal platforms, he has created images, he has amplified other people's anti-trains narrative. i think it is very dangerous but also very brave, his

commentary is dangerous, it is very brave of this young woman to come out not only putting her father on blast, also being very honest about the sheer amount of trauma she endured under him, which thousands of kids across this country will if these anti-lgbt policies go into place. >> we could go on and on but you're sticking with me one more segment because we have another round of worst of the week. i want to hear your thoughts in ohio republicans threats of another civil war. ally proven areds 2 formula recommended by the nei. i'm taking control like millions of others. ♪♪ imagine a future where plastic is not wasted... but instead remade over and over... into the things that keep our food fresher, our families safer, and our planet cleaner. to help us get there, america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars to create innovative products and new recycling technologies for sustainable change.

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we're back with a bonus round of worst of the week, you're welcome. that dishonor goes to republican ohio state senator george lange, who said this at a rally in his state for trump's running mate , j.d. vance. >> i believe wholeheartedly donald trump and butler county's j.d. vance are the last chance to save our country politically. i'm afraid if we lose this one, it will take a civil war to save the country. it will be saved. >> civil war, he did not get the memo from republicans who told everyone, especially democrats, to lower the temperature after the attempted assassination of donald trump. after his speech went viral, he expressed, quote, regret for his divisive remarks made in the

excitement of the moment. my panel is back with me, i.e. -- ameshia , i will start with you, he says he got caught up in the moment, i don't know about you, when that happens to me, i don't threaten civil war, what about you ? >> republicans get caught up in the moment, we get january 6th. i feel like at this point there so much expected to do when it comes to what they say because the republican party does not want to accept a diverse america, does not want to accept progress and civil rights, does not want to accept progress and equity, except women in leadership or woman graduating from college at higher rates, does not want to accept the change america represents and are willing to fight, kill, and maim to go back to a time where white men were the only ones who presented any type of power. i think that legacy is a scary place to be, take them at their word. trump has empowered them, not only to issue force, but also

to make these statements. it is embarrassing, frustrating, anti-american, anti-democratic but pro- republican. this is who that party is and who they represent as native illinois, native of chicago and great lakes region, that guy being from ohio is really embarrassing but we also have to recognize this is what the party is, who they have become and these are the type of speakers that they want. they are mad he is getting pushback because this is the same party who called a calm the noise, for unity a week ago, that unity lasted about five seconds. >> i know we joke a lot in the segment, you're completely right, words matter, words resonate with people, right now as we're speaking, donald trump is speaking right now at a rally in minnesota, there he is where he is talking about his rhetoric. who knows exactly what he is saying, we will find out soon, we do know what he said just this week, he fearmonger this week, he said, quote, the country would be

destroyed if kamala harris wins the presidency. he told prime minister benjamin netanyahu, there will be a, quote, third world work if he loses again. let's repeat it, why do these words matter so much? >> january 6th was a dry run. i want to say, january 6th was a dry run, donald trump knows it, everything he said this week, hey, christian republicans, vote for me, this is the last election you will have. similar to what the state senator in georgia said when he said that there would be civil work. they say with the full chest at microphone, they say on camera in front of crowds because this is the intended outcome. win or lose. i think, i want to go back to the top of the show when we talk about freedom, that is explicitly what is on the ballot, powell. i don't want people to try to dismiss

this or contort themselves or allow themselves to be full buddy statements after the fact, stated with full chest, on your toes and intend to do that. voters should pay attention to turner in the lead up to november, yes, you should pay attention to january 2025 to ensure the next administration, hopefully not donald trump, is inaugurated peacefully. >> ameshia , vice president harris did call in donald trump and j.d. vance to denounce lang's quote calls for violence and to apologize for platforming this kind of violence. they have not done this. how can the republican party message on lowering the temperature when the republican presidential candidate himself and his running mate, as we talked extensively on the show, they keep stoking the tensions, they keep fearmonger, using these words? >> they can't, quite frankly. they are a rock in a hard place

because you built a party designed to numbly push anti- dei racism everywhere, also want to push hate and extremism and push abuses of power and push violence. they are not new to this, they are true to it. i think speaker johnson had his powwow with other house members, we will see how they go the next few weeks. they are seen and what we are seeing as a nation, republican party vigilant to continue the path they have been going. i think we are well past a sitdown conversation to make them behave. i think we are where we are and we have to accept it and know what to do, to when he does point, come november. the toothpaste is out of the tube, these people are not going back in. there showcasing who they are and they will get more vigilant and amped up, that is what we will see as the campaign cycle continues. >> they are telling us what they will do. ameshia cross and juanita tolliver, thank you.

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