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. welcome back. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm josé diaz-balart. we begin this hour with breaking news. the fbi held a briefing on the attempted assassination of donald trump and revealed that the former president has agreed to give a victim interview. joining us now is nbc's ryan reilly. what else did we learn? >> yeah, so that victim interview is going to be just like the ones that take place of any m victim. it's going to sort of follow the standard protocols. they didn't say there's any information necessarily they are specifically looking for, but that type of interview is something that can inform their
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investigation going forward. they said that the suspected shooter here, the individual identified as thomas matthew crooks was a highly intelligent man as well as a loner with few friends and family, with few friends and acquaintances outside his family members. some interesting information we're getting on him so far, even on his gaming platforms recently he hasn't been talking to many people. that's the situation as it stands currently. >> ryan reilly, thank you so very much. now to the latest on the presidential campaign with just 99 days to go before election day, the harris campaign says it has raised $200 million plus in the week since president biden announced he was pulling out of the race and endorsing her. the campaign says most of the money comes from first-tie donors and recruited 170,000 new volunteers. this comes as sources tell nbc news the vice president is set to announce her running mate by august 7th. sources tell nbc news eight
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names are under consideration. this afternoon two of the potential nominees, pennsylvania governor josh shapiro and michigan governor gretchen whitmer are scheduled to campaign for the vice president in the philadelphia suburbs. we begin with dasha burns i montgomery county, pennsylvania. what should we be watching for from this event today? >> reporter: ( hey, jose, good morning. there is no overstating the importance of pennsylvania to this election. you're going to get sick of hearing me say this by november, but it really is that important, and so governor josh shapiro of the state of pennsylvania could bring something really important to this ticket. you've already seen him out on the campaign trail for harris. over the weekend he's gotten some endorsements from important influential democrats. when you talk to actual voters, you'll hear the same thing over and over again, which is it's a question about how much a vp can really influence an election. take a listen to what we heard.
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>> i think it's too up in the air at the moment as to who's going to be selected as the vice president, but i am taking comfort in the fact that there are a lot of excellent choices out there. >> honestly i feel like what was more important to me is the actual president than the vice president because you don't see them a lot. they do a good amount behind the scenes, but yeah, honestly i feel like the president is definitely more important to me. >> reporter: with shapiro, you're get ago few things, not only a governor from this critically important state, but you're getting somebody who has a record of being a bipartisan. that's something that he campaigned on for governor and something he has led with here in pennsylvania. he's known as someone who can bring both sides of the aisle together. gretchen whitmer, governor of michigan another important state in that blue wall that would be two women on the ticket, which would be historic. governor josh shapiro would be
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the first jewish vice president as well as elected. so a lot of choices right now, and a lot of people vying for that spot right now, jose. >> dasha burns in montgomery county, thank you very much. republican vice presidential nominee meanwhile, j.d. vance is also on the campaign trail meeting with donors in palo alto, california. silicon valley is a familiar place for vance. he lived there for five years working as a venture capitalist and biotech executive. joining us now msnbc's katie rooney from palo alto. what do we know about j.d. vance's connections with silicon valley? >> so as you said, he was an investor. he spent five years here in silicon valley. he invested in tech companies alongside some of the big names who are also gop donors. he has close ties to peter thiel. if you've heard paypal mafia, there's a group of tech executives who have gone on to do other things, build other tech companies.
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elon musk is in that group. you've got names like david sachs. they have helped raise the profile of j.d. vance among the tech community here that started to shift a bit to the right. this is historically a liberal bastian in terms of donations and where they tend to give their support. that tends to be -- it's shifting now, you're seeing that reflected with elon musk, for example, supporting and endorsing former president trump. you've got some of the big tech names that also have ties to vance. that really goes back to his days as an investor. >> and kate, so what benefits and how much support has thiel given to j.d. vance? >> reporter: so peter thiel is actually among the names who have yet to endorse at least president trump. he's been a big gop donor in the past. it's really come in the sense of connections. you've got names that are close to peter thiel that are endorsing him. a lot of these gop, relatively
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new donors in some cases. i talked to one person who was a democrat, donated to democrats for about three decades, he said he's now shifting his support, and will be at the fundraiser j.d. vance is hosting ton in silicon valley. the reason they're doing this and what i hear from the big tech investors here is they see certain regulations that could be changed. cryptocurrency is a big area where they're pushing for some changes and aren't as happy with the biden administration, and then the ftc e alina con, there's some big deals that haven't gotten through. that's why you're seeing a switch in support in that area that has historically leaned to the left here. >> kate rooney, thank you so much. with us now to continue our conversation, victoria defrancesco soto, the dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas and an msnbc contributor, and mark mckinnon, former adviser to george w. bush
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and john mccain. trump is getting pushback for these comments he made over the weekend. take a listen. >> and again, christians get out and vote, just this time. [ applause ] you won't have to do it anymore. four more years, you know what? it will be fixed. it will be fine. you won't have to vote anymore my beautiful christians. >> mark, what do you make of this? >> well, i think there's been a bit of an overreaction hyperbole about the statement. he's not saying we're not going to have elections anymore. he's going to say you're going to get everything you want so there's not going to be any reason to vote to be fair. on your question of the vp pick, i think what's interesting is as some of the folks said in broadcast, people don't really make their decisions based on the vp, but i do think particularly in a race like this, it can give people confidence or a lack of confidence in the ticket.
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in this case with j.d. vance, i think the problem for trump is they picked vance with the notion that biden would be the nominee, and so it was like an easy choice, a safe choice, a choice that doesn't expand the gop tent at all. in fact, maybe contracts it some, but it was a choice that made the base very happy. now with harris as a pick, i think trump is really looking at that thinking we really crude up. -- screwed up. this is a whole different equation. people are going to vote for harris, but i think the right pick can give people more confidence and reassurance in that vote for harris. >> victoria, vice president harris and her allies have launched a new line of attack on the trump/vance ticket, calling some of what they say are just weird things going on. listen to this. >> i believe the map has changed. georgia is in play, and georgia is going to go for the vice president. what the vice president understands is most people when they wake up in the morning, they're not thinking about their political party or the polls.
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they're thinking about their job and whether they make enough to support their family. >> well, that was the wrong sound, and i'm sorry about that. the overriding message we've heard by some of the vice president's allies has been just that trump and vance are just plain weird. victoria, is this kind of a line of attack that could work? >> it's a line of attack that can have some inroads with the folks right outside of the edges of the base of the trump support, right? so the ones who love trump, they're going to be with him no matter who his vice presidential pick was, but then there's that chunk of people, i don't think it's necessarily big, but that is pushing themselves to once again for the third time hold their nose and vote for trump, and the likelihood of them being able to, again, if the third time hold their nose again is really going to be affected by
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these random comments, by that comment of the clip that you just played earlier about you won't have to vote in another four more years. which personally, to me, i'm a little bit more of a nervous nelly than mark. it makes me nervous and especially being a student latin america is i think about venezuela who just had elections. venezuela was the paragon of democracy, and look where it is now. i think they say really weird things, but then with an undertone of this is a world view that a lot of these folks share. >> that's interesting. mark, i want to go back to what you're talking about about the pick of j.d. vance as trump's, you know, partner on this electoral process. "the wall street journal" editorial board wrote, quote, an old political saw is that the best vp choice is one who gets applause upon announcement, and then is never heard from again. you can tell that doesn't apply to vance since trump is being asked if he still believes he
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made the right choice. mark, how much of a problem is this for the trump campaign, do you think? >> that's a great point, when you've lost "the wall street journal" to the republican that's problematic. the point they're making there is a good one, which is that he has been not only neutral or not even positive. he's been a distraction and a negative one at that. the thing that you know is driving donald trump crazy right now, the thing that he hates more than anything is not to be the center of attention, right? and harris, no matter what your ideology or politics are, has absolutely captivated every single news cycle since she was effectively nominated, and that's by the way, likely going to keep happening right up and through the convention. she will in effect have dominated the headlines for a month with the exception of the headlines that j.d. vance has been getting, and those have been across the board all negative. so donald trump's getting a
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double barrel dose of stuff he can't stand, which is bad press for him and good press for harris. >> vice president harris's campaign manager was asked about what her policies on the border would look like. here's what she had to say. >> i think at this point, you know, the policies that are, you know, having a real impact on ensuring that we have security and order at our border are policys that will continue. >> you think, victoria, the harris campaign needs to have a specific answer on what harris policy is at border? the humanitarian crisis that we have been living through for years now? >> so immigration policy is something that you don't want to get into the weeds about. i mean, really here it's about solving the problem that has been broken for over 30 years, and i think that she needs to be very clear and very resonant on that. how that is achieved is something that she can address,
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you know, after getting into the white house because it's something that she can't do single handedly or any executive can do single handedly, so i think laying out a firm and clear line and kicking back that notion that she was or is soft on the border is very, very important, and then the devil's in the details and going to be hashed out later. i think for a general audience is draw that line in the sand. >> yeah, victoria, but then again the fact that she was early on tasked by president biden to be study what the root causes of migration are and do you get -- i certainly get a sense that that hasn't been something that she nor the president have been very forthcoming about. what is it that we have learned about the root causes of migration, and how can that lesson be instituted? >> immigration is push and pull, what's happening in the home
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country. so i think that is 50% of the equation, and i think you mentioned that. she references that, but given the optics of immigration today and given the humanitarian crisis we're seeing at the border, i think you have to lean a little bit heavier with understanding the border and the needs of folks as they're looking at our southern border while saying we need to look beyond the short-term and the causes leading to that. and i think that's something where the policy wonks like me really dig into but also understanding what day-to-day americans are seeing on their tv screen. >> i thank you both for your time. we are live on the ground in venezuela after an historic election with massive turnout and millions supporting the opposition, but the regime declares that maduro is the winner. one reporter saw it polling stations in caracas. plus a preview of president biden's plan to overhaul the supreme court. and overseas, israeli prime
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minister benjamin netanyahu vows retaliation as he visits the site of a rocket attack over the weekend that killed 12 children. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ée diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. (restaurant noise) allison! (restaurant noise) ♪♪ [announcer] introducing allison's
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20 past the hour, breaking news out of venezuela where the maduro controlled election authority declared him the winner of yesterday's presidential election. the opposition is contesting that after most exit polls showed an overwhelming defeat of
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maduro and yesterday's election showed a massive turnout. according to "the washington post" there were reports of blacked -- blocked access, delays. voters waited in line for more than six hours to cast their ballots breaking into chants of we want to vote. the election came after maduro's regime barred the most popular opposition from running. she brought in someone to run in her place, and much of the country has been mobilized behind him. they are insisting hay defeated maduro. ro >> that was her saying gonzalez
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received 70% of the vote and maduro received 30%. she says that is the truth. secretary of state antony blinken says the u.s. has serious concerns the results don't reflect the will of the people and leaders of latin america and elsewhere more forcefully speaking out. the president of chile saying they will not recognize any results that are not verifiable. the president of argentina posting dictator maduro out and called on venezuelan armed forces to defend democracy. peru's foreign minister said they will not accept the violation of the will of the venezuelan people, and colombia's foreign minister called for an audit. joining us from caracas, anna vanessa, a reporter for "the washington post," she covered the elections on the ground. thank you very much for being with us today. what is the reaction on the ground in venezuela today? >> you can feel many things now on the streets. you can feel a sense of incredulity, you can feel a sense of sadness, and also you
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can feel a sense of a very tense calm, a peaceful, yet they're waiting, people are waiting to see what the next step is for the opposition and for edmundo gonzalez and what's going to be the government's response. it's just now we have no idea what the forces are going to say about the entire process. this is, as you said, this is not only a questionable election for many countries, but we also are waiting to hear from the international observers, especially from the carter center, who was here looking after the elections and watching every step of the way for almost two weeks now. >> yeah, and i mean, you know, it's important to say that international observers that were there on the ground, there were many others that were
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actually barred from coming into venezuela hoping to be an observer of this electoral process, including former presidents of panama, of costa rica, of mexico. you were there yesterday. what did you see, ana? >> well, i've been covering this concern for the past 15 years. i've covered several elections including chavez's election, his last election, and the first election of nicolas maduro. i've never seen something like what we experienced yesterday. what i saw was people on the streets just flooding the electoral centers asking to count the votes. yes, at first there were a lot of problems for voters. they weren't allowed in. they were delayed, but then those things sorted out in some places. some other places got very tense very quickly. in other parts of the country different from the capital, but then after that, after 6:00 p.m. when the polls closed, we saw a
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lot of people on the streets there staying there up until 2:00 a.m. in the morning with severe threats, for example, in caracas in one of the biggest electoral centers. i witnessed 150 motorcycles with almost two and three people on top of each motorcycles who came to this electoral center to threaten the people there. some people got beaten. some people got injured, but still, a group stayed there up until 2:00 a.m. in the morning asking the electoral council to be present when they were counting the votes, something that didn't happen at least up until 2:00 a.m. when the last person left. >> yeah, and those motorcycles with two and three people on them each of them armed are maduro supporters. what's next?
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i mean, the armed forces has been by maduro's side for a number of reasons for, you know, decades now including chavez. what's next now? >> well, the opposition says they have the votes, and this is crucial. for the first time they are not claiming just a fraud or as they said yesterday, any fraud. this is something different. they claim that they have the proof to show not only the world but venezuela that they won with the percentage that they announced. so now what we're waiting for is first to hear from the electoral council if they're going to be open to count each and every vote as the opposition is -- and as every other country is asking to recognize the government. this for now what we expect in the next couple of days. if this doesn't happen, then the opposition definitely is going to announce another strategy,
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being her the main face of the campaign, they're going to keep up until the end. they're going to keep going until the very end. >> first of all, please take care of yourself. i very much appreciate you being on with us today, and our admiration for the venezuelan people who came out to vote by millions with a hope and a dream. let's see what the future holds. thank you. up next, president biden lays out his proposal to reform the supreme court. plus, new questions about the police officer who shot and killed sonya massey in her illinois home. what newly released audio recordings of his former superior reveal. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ée diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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freedoms. we now stand in a breach. joining us now nbc news white house correspondent allie raffa. good morning, what specific reforms is the president proposing? >> yeah, jose, good morning. this is an ambitious proposal that we know the president has been mulling over for quite some time. we were anticipating the announcement after the president teased it. some of the changes he's calling for in this proposal include a constitutional amendment saying former presidents don't have immunity for crimes committed in office. this is a response to the court's ruling earlier this month in the case brought forth by the president's predecessor former president trump, and this a change definitely in line with the president saying in recent statements that no president is above the law. the president also calling for term limits favoring an 18-year term limit for justices trying to avoid any single president having a generations long influence on the country's legal system, and finally, the president is calling for a code
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of conduct that's actually enforceable for these justices, something that it doesn't have right now. this would prevent these justices from not disclosing gifts, prohibit them from participating in any public political activity, and require them to recuse themselves from cases that they have a conflict of "associated press" in. again, another reaction, another response to recent scandals we've seen involving conservative members of the court. these are very big ideas. the gut check here is that with the current makeup of congress, it's highly unlikely that these get across the finish line in the final months of the president's term, but they serve as a road map for where we know his priorities are going to be in this time, and this represents a major shift from president biden who for many years avoided these calls and avoided talking about overhauling the high court. but you think of how this could potentially move forward in another office. vice president harris for her part in a statement this morning endorsed the president's ideas,
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endorsed this proposal. that could suggest under a harris administration if she were to win in november, this is something we could see more effort put into to get these across the finish line, jose. >> allie raffa in washington, thank you. up next, new fears of an escalation in the middle east after what israel is calling the worst attack against its civilians sense the october 7 massacre. plus, what former white house chief of staff mark meadows is asking the supreme court to do after their presidential immunity ruling recently. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ée diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. r with selection for any pet, with any diet, at prices you'll love. delivered fast, right to your door. for low prices and fast shipping. for life with pets, there's chewy with everything.
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try one today. 36 past the hour, right now, there are fears in the middle east of a potential escalation of the war after israel carried out strikes inside lebanon that was in retaliation over an attack at a soccer field in the israeli-controlled golan heights. that attack killed 12 people, 11 of which have been confirmed as children and teenagers. israel accused hezbollah, the iranian-backed militia. it was the deadliest attack on civilians since the october 7th attacks. this morning the israeli prime minister netanyahu visited the scene of the attack. joining us now is nbc's raf sanchez, general barry mccaffrey, retired four-star general and an msnbc military analyst, and aaron david miller, a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. raf, where do things stand right
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now? >> reporter: well, jose, a lot of people across the middle east are holding their breath right now and waiting to see what israel's response to this attack looks like. as you mentioned there are 12 children dead here. this is, according to israel the deadliest attack on its civilians since october 7th. it is by far the most serious hezbollah strike in the nine and a half months that israel and the iranian-backed militants have been fighting over northern border. prime minister netanyahu has said given the scale of this attack, israel's response will be unprecedented. the security cabinet met last night in tel aviv. they authorized the prime minister to respond at a time, place, and manner of his choosing. we don't know exactly what that will look like yet. one of the big questions here is will netanyahu give the order to the israeli military to strike beirut, the capital of lebanon. that is something israel has
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refrained from doing so far during this conflict. it may be that a step netanyahu is prepared to take, and that could lead to a major hezbollah retaliation. the united states is saying it supports israel's right to defend itself, but it is counseling restraint. it does not want to see an all out conflict and especially at a time when the biden administration is sounding relatively optimistic about the prospect of getting to a cease fire deal in gaza. jose, i can tell you, we were at that soccer field yesterday. we were back there again today. witnesses tell us this was a normal saturday night, it was a little after 6:00 p.m., these kids were playing soccer. the sirens started blaring, and there was actually a bomb shelter a few yards away. that rocket came crashing down just seconds later, and it brought death and destruction to a community of just 11,000 people. you can imagine the scale of the
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grief. 12 children lost in a village that small. as you mentioned, prime minister netanyahu was there earlier today, he was meeting with village elders. we were there at the time, and it was really striking, jose, a large crowd of very angry villagers gathered to denounce the israeli prime minister saying he had blood on his hands, and accusing him of not doing enough to keep their children safe, jose. >> raf sanchez, thank you so very much. aaron, just your thoughts on this. so far hezbollah and israel have been relatively not involved in a very intense hot conflict. do you see this changing? >> you know, as it goes back to the summer of '06, even before, the last time israel and hezbollah entered into a conflict then with 5,000 fight
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e, hezbollah managed to shut down the northern half of israel for 33 days. this is the northern half of the middle east's most preeminent military power for 33 days. mow hezbollah has not anywhere from between 150 to 200,000 high trajectory weapons, varying ranges, lethalities and precisions. i don't think hezbollah wants a major confrontation. i don't think the israelis do. the americans clearly don't. i don't think iran wants one. the only beneficiary here would be sinwar, the architect of the october 7 terrorist attack. for him a regional war would be wonderful, and that's what he hoped would happen in the week of october 7th. i still think there's a way to get out of this without a major escalation. it really will depend on the depth and intensity of israel's response. will they go to beirut against hezbollah architecture, or will they confine themselves to operations much closer to the
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river in southern lebanon. that's the unanswered question. >> yeah, i mean, general, how do you see things? i mean, it is such a complicated map on a regular basis now when you're adding all these pressures. as aaron was saying, sinwar and hamas would certainly like for israel to take on hezbollah. how do you see it, general? >> i think aaron's commentary is entirely correct. and by the way, these 12 killed children were not israeli citizens. this is the annexed golan heights, so they're syrian. it's highly improbable that hezbollah was targeting children. i think they were after the israeli military observation post on mount herman. so now on netanyahu's hand is the response. he and gallant were given authority to decide when and how
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they'd go back at the hezbollah fighters. there's no probability in which it would not be an utter disaster to the idf and israel if they take on a major war with hezbollah. i think it would require a ground invasion with all the reserves called up, israeli cities would be under attack from, as aaron points out 150,000 or more rockets. the war would go on for a year. it might draw in the iranians, so we're right on the edge of a precipice. one can only hope that netanyahu and defense minister gallant will find some way to use this to energize the end of the war against hamas in gaza, which would probably quiet the entire region down dramatically. >> aaron, how would that energiing really play out
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possibly for the benefit of the -- let's not forget the people of gaza that have been, you know, been subjected to so much pain and death? >> you know, general mccaffrey is right about describing the -- something the middle east has never really experienced before. a major confrontation. as far as the israel-hamas situation is concerned, look, i think there's a reasonable chance middle east negotiations from my experience have only two speeds, slow and slower. but there's a reasonable chance sometime in august you could actually see israel and hamas sign on to a deal, but i doubt, frankly, that you'll be able to go beyond the first phase, which will be no mean accomplishment. six week he's fired the return of limited numbers of hostages, unfortunately for an asymmetrical number of palestinian prisoners and a period of quiet that would allow for the first time humanitarian assistance, not to the borders
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of gaza but to be distributed in gaza with some regularity and predictability. all of that is to the good. i have to say, i don't think we're talking about the cessation of hostilities and a stability and quiet for gaza that's going to accord to the benefit of the 2.3 million palestinians who live there and the remainder of the hostages. out of 120, 115 now, the israelis judge maybe 40, are no longer alive. that's the problem here. i don't see an end to the israeli-hamas confrontation anytime soon. >> thank you both so very much for being with us this morning. appreciate it. up next, what former white house chief of staff mark meadows is asking the supreme court to do in the georgia election interference case against him. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. t.
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what would this move actually mean for this case, and this is kind of something we have been hearing over and over again by people like meadows and others, right? >> removal is a tactical maneuver and it happens 99% of the time in civil cases. most attorneys who remove have been involved in civil cases but rare if ever involved in a federal officer removal. so it is a strategic move, and it could dramatically affect the outcome of this case. and while meadows speaks of the immunity decision by the supreme court, this filing is really about challenging the removal and getting a second bite of the apple at trying to get this case as a defendant out of state court in georgia and up to federal district court in georgia where presumably he will find a better audience for his immunity and other arguments. >> danny, he's asked for this
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already, hasn't he? >> he has. his argument is essentially now that the supreme court has come out with its immunity decision, the court spoke at length about the fact that defendants, potential presidents need to be able to do their jobs without fear of being prosecuted after they leave office, and those considerations, meadows argues, weigh heavily in favor of taking a look at this denial of meadows' removal. remember that meadows' first attempt to remove this case was shot down by the lower court which said look, if you remove, you have to then at that moment be a federal officer. it's not available for officers who are no longer federal officers. if you're no longer the chief of staff and you are a private person, you no longer get to remove. that was the lower court's decision. what meadows is arguing that now the supreme court has put us in a different world because the supreme court has talked about the need for immunity to extend
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after the presidency, and therefore the need for removal must extend after someone's term in office. not just for the president but for his officers. >> danny cevallos, thank you very much, my friend, appreciate it. up next, calls for justice grow from sonya massey's family, the illinois woman shot and killed by a sheriff's deputy. what a former superior was heard saying to the officer two years ago on newly released audio. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports on msnbc. balart reports on msnbc fracture, you can build new bone with evenity®. ask your doctor if you can do more than just slowing down bone loss with evenity®. want stronger bones? then build new bone; evenity® can help in just 12 months. evenity® is proven to reduce spine fracture risk by 73%.
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it has the potential to encourage more people to get screened. colon cancer is the second highest cause of cancer deaths in the united states. the fda's approval means medicare and private insurance companies are more likely to cover the cost of this test. >> and turning now to a story we have been following across the country. there were more than a dozen rallies yesterday for a national day of mourning in honor of sonya massey, the unarmed black woman killed in her own home by an illinois sheriffs deputy. communities gathered across louisville, kentucky, with calls for justice. joining us now is maura barrett from springfield, illinois. what's the latest in the investigation? >> reporter: in addition to some of those national gatherings you just showed, there was one with about 300 people here in springfield over the weekend where they prayed and mourned for the massey family. they had a lot of questions. the family questioning why the
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deputy was hired in the first place, and so we have been digging into his past. i should note that deputy grayson has been fired from the department. he was arrested as being held in jail without bond and has been charged with first-degree murder. in terms of his past, this was his sixth department he has worked at in the matter of four years, and department hopping for police officers is something that has been heavily criticized, especially as we see problems like this arise in various communities across the country. also obtained audio from logan county. that was the job grayson held before he came here. you can hear his superior officer questioning him and accusing him of lying on some of his reports. i want to hear some of that audio from an interview that we obtained over the weekend. >> a lot of officers have been charged and end up in jail because that's what they perceived. official misconduct will land you in jail.
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the sheriff and i will not tolerate lying and deception. >> reporter: and so this was referencing an incident in 2022. grayson also had several duis on his record as well as a history of misconduct while he was in the army, and so there is a training and standards board that certifies officers here in illinois that did certify him for hiring but we spoke with their director over the weekend, and he said ultimately the decision to hire an officer with a background like grayson's is up to the department. we have been reaching out, trying to get in touch with the sheriff who would have hired him but haven't heard back as we continue to dig into how grayson could have been in this position to even start with. >> maura barrett, thank you very much. that wraps up the hour for me, i'm jose diaz-balart. you can always reach me on social media at jd balart. you can watch clips from our show, you tube@msnbc.com/jd.

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