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alex witt in for katy tur. there are 99 days until election day, and for vice president kamala harris's campaign, it is time to put all the excitement to work. the harris campaign is $200,170,000 volunteers richer than they were a week ago. they have opened new lines of attack on donald trump and his running mate j.d. vance, and it's simple, really. >> you may have noticed donald trump has been resorting to some wild lies about my record and some of what he and his running mate are saying, it's just plain weird. >> just plain weird, and in an e-mail after e-mail, the campaign is driving that point home. sources familiar tell nbc news the campaign also has its time line to unveil harris's vp pick by next week as the short list fans out on tv over the weekend. >> at the end of this process, i'm going to be out there fighting for kamala harris. i mean, she genuinely cares

about middle class americans, about fighting for workers' rights, making sure we're guaranteeing a woman's right to choose. these are hugely important issues. >> you would serve, though, if asked? >> i would do what is in the best interest of the country. . >> would that include you being a vice president? >> we'll cross paths when we get there. >> i love my state, but it is an honor to be considered, and i'm going to do everything i can, regardless of any choice to make sure that kamala harris is our next president of the united states. >> and in battle ground, pennsylvania, governors josh shapiro and gretchen whitmer are speaking as surrogates on the ground, and as "politico" and "the new york times" puts it, it will all come down to the next three weeks which has the power to dictate whether harris can harness the momentum, and expand the electoral map in the democrats favor. then it's the convention, labor day, and many ballots will make

their way to mailboxes across this country. that may not be a lot of time for a presidential campaign, but it is plenty of time for the honeymoon period to wear off. joining us now from memory county, pennsylvania, nbc news correspondent dasha burns, and also with us, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and msnbc political analyst, peter baker. good to have you both here. dasha, you first. what does harris's veep vetting process look like, particularly given this extremely short window to get it done. >> reporter: not a whole lot of time here. clock is ticking, alex. it's looking a lot like this. we're in a high school gym in montgomery, pennsylvania, a critical battle ground state. the governor of the state, josh shapiro, and governor gretchen whitmer as well. shapiro is inching his way on to the short list for a couple of reasons. number one, the state that he governs, pennsylvania, is so important. its importance can't really be

overstated. he have also, alex, has largely been a bipartisan governor. that's really what he's built his brand on, someone that can bring together both democrats and republicans. i'll tell you a whole lot of influential democrats in pennsylvania have endorsed him for vp. really want him to get this position. for voters, they see the vp as maybe something that could be helpful but not necessarily. take a listen. >> i think it's too up in the air at the moment as to who's going to be selected as the vice president. but i am taking comfort in the fact that there are a lot of excellent choices out there. honestly, i feel like what was more important is the actual president than the vice president. you don't see them a lot. they do do a good amount behind the scenes, but yeah, honestly i feel like the president is definitely more important to me. >> reporter: and, alex, governor whitmer who's going to be here today has said she doesn't

necessarily want the role, but still a lot of people excited about her as well. i talked to some folks in the crowd here that's gathering behind me. they told me they really love governor shapiro as their governor. they want him to stay, but if he could help harris win, then they would want him to do whatever it takes. basically they're looking for a running mate that can help put her over the edge. governor shapiro from pennsylvania could potentially be that, alex. >> what do you think it is, dasha, that we're getting from the harris campaign? are they looking for the electoral college vote? is that what they're really looking for. is it all about, as it should be, perhaps, someone who might step right into the oval office should something happen to the president? >> well, they put an emphasis on that latter part, someone who's ready for the job. but in terms of the strategy, it's important to have a compliment and a contrast as well, right, and someone like shapiro who is seen as more of a moderate, or potentially somebody like senator mark kelly

from arizona, who's also rumored to be on the list, who's from a border state who could potentially help on the issue of immigration. someone that brings something to the ticket that bolsters either on the issue front, on the geography front or on the demographic front, alex. >> okay. let's talk to peter now. no doubt, harris is galvanizing voters, i mean, we have seen evidence of that. and you and i spoke over the weekend as well. how does she plan to turn all of that momentum into turnout, pete center. >> well, i mean, look, first of all, obviously the volunteers, the donors, the money, all of that's very helpful. she's got a couple of weeks until the convention. she can kind of, you know, still has the fresh sense, and the convention gives them four nights of prime time opportunities to introduce herself to a lot of americans who might not really know that much about her. you're right, it's 100 days, basically, 99 days or so to the election. it's hard to keep up this kind

of, you know, energy that he has had over the first week. they're very aware of that. they know that. she won't be a fresh face forever, especially after republicans, you know, start defining her on their terms. she has the advantage of going through the long slog of primary season and extended general election season. that sense it's possible that this situation with president biden, which no democrat thought was ideal, may still work out kind of actually well for her in that sense. >> absolutely. she's got to keep them for three months, instead of three years. that wouldn't be an official campaign. you know they start raising money, at least, that much in advance. what about this, is this advantageous, peter? trump isng drowned out by the new cycle, first by all the democratic enthusiasm for har ris and the flubs of j.d. vance. does that help sustain like that, that amount of brevity

keep it going? >> one thing, it definitely extinguishes the momentum out of the convention. normally comes out above in the polls a sense of excitement on the part of the base at least, and he had that excitement at the time in the room, but as soon as it was over, and president biden decided to withdraw and suddenly all of the attention went to kamala harris, and as you say, to j.d. vance's somewhat, unorthodox comments he has made. all of that momentum was gone. the entire post convention seems to be out the window, and he's starting scratch. he's certainly not in a happy place right now. he'll try to do what he can do get back on top. he's an expert, obsessed with getting attention. he'll figure out ways to do that. for the moment, he's being overshadowed. >> i was going to ask you. you can think about this and let me know another time, if there's anyone he would like to be

overshadowed by. thank you very much. both you and dasha. we have democratic pollster, and political analyst, cornell belcher, good to see you, cornell. let's talk about some good stuff in terms of the favorability rating for harris among adults. it starts at 43%, according to an abc news ip sus poll. the change in her favorability, first of all, to outside of the polls margin of error, but it is an 8 point jump in one week. then you have battleground polling, harris is statistically tied with trump. what do you make of this? is this the honeymoon phase or is there enough momentum to carry harris for the next nine days? >> i think it's also based on, you know, and i saw this live from nbc's chuck todd, the vice president's most famous unknown person in the country. and voters know the vice

president but don't know her story, and she's never been front and center because she's the vice president, it's not her job to be front and center. now that she's front and center and voters are taking a look at her, it's like a new car, go around look at it, listen to. apparently they're looking whey that see. i'm not being partisan here, the numbers are the numbers, and clearly the more they see of the vice president, the more they like her, and that's a really good thing. right? can momentum be carried over? that's the job of campaigns right, and the job of your campaign is to use that momentum, and use that voluntary base and use all of that incredible money. i'll tell you, when you look at the money they have raked in for a short period of time, and i worked for obama in '08 and '12, it feels like that same kind of energy on the cusp of the energy and vibrance, particularly when you look at the young people,

and how much of that money is new grass roots money from people who haven't given before. there's something different happening right now, and i think it's easy to carry that on if it's not centralized, and if you locate the grass roots continue to sort of do it and the volunteers out there, and the campaign sort of get out of the the way in what the people want to do, and particularly when you look online. i know you have seen the social media stuff, it is just phenomenal. >> it's exploded. >> the memes and the stuff that's outs -- out there and around her at this time. that's not from the campaign. >> let me ask you about the hundreds of thousands of new voters that have registered since she announced her intentions. are they guaranteed to translate to actual votes? i mean, what's the strategy to make sure they do? >> no, that's a really good question. no, there's no guarantee in politics, but what i would tell you again is, and i'm always careful about making comparisons

to '08. i don't think we'll see the energy and mobilization that we saw in '08. i think this is about as best as we've seen. i think the new people registering to participate, i think that's a really key indicator, right, of enthusiasm? a change in enthusiasm, where you have hundreds of thousands of people now wanting to register and engage. that's a good sign. now you have to do the work of campaigns. the work of campaigns is in each of these states, there's a person in charge of this, looking at the new registrants and building an entire campaign, sort of reach out, communicate with them, touch them on the doors. reach them over social media. over radio ads, et cetera, to take advantage of that and show them the process of how to sort of vote. the potential is there. but the campaign has to do the work of cultivating and bringing it home. >> as you said, no guarantees in politics ever. cornell belcher, thank you. a supreme court overhaul, how much of a long shot are

president biden's new proposals in a divided congress? i'll ask someone in the senate, the judiciary committee's shell -- sheldon whitehouse joins me after the break. and it has been a week since kamala harris launched her presidential campaign, and the former president is still struggling to find an attack line that sticks. what sort of counter offensive he's weighing now. we're back in 90 seconds. ck in s ah, these bills are crazy. she

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next hour, president biden is set to announce proposals to major reforms for the supreme court, an announcement that follows an op-ed this morning in which he noted the growing public distrust in the court writing what is happening now is not normal and it undermines the public's confidence in the court's decisions, including those impacting personal freedoms. we now stand in a breach. the president's reforms address the supreme court's recent immunity decision, calling for a constitutional amendment that limits the decision power. he is also calling for 18-year term limits for justices as well as a code of conduct for the court. joining us now, democratic senator from rhode island, sheldon whitehouse, he sits on the senate judiciary committee and chairs the subcommittee on federal courts, which makes you the perfect person to speak to about this. in part, also, sir, because you have been calling for these reforms by personally sponsoring

two acts addressing efforts and term limits. does president biden's proposal mirror your efforts? >> yeah, his proposal is perfectly aligned with my ethics bill and also perfectly aligned with my term limits bill. so i think it's going to give a boost of positivity to both of them, and i appreciate the president stepping up this way. >> okay. you're smiling saying this, but "axios," sir, is reporting that president biden did not consult with lawmakers on these reforms. did you hear anything from the president before his announcement today? >> we have been in regular touch with the white house about these bills, and about these reforms for a long period of time. and i have zero complaints about the white house outreach. and i'm very glad that they made the decision to have the president support fixing the immunity decision, putting term limits on these rogue justices,

and having a real ethics ram for the court like every other judge and pretty much every other federal official. >> tough question here, what is the actual impact if it is not likely reforms like these are going to get a lot of traction in this country congress? >> well, you push forward, you know, you take your wins where you can. this was a win day, so i'm going to keep smiling. and the voters will have a lot of decisions to make in november. one of them is do you want bodies in the senate and in the house who will look into the mystery of the court. do you want a president who's going to continue to pack the court with billionaire chosen operatives from the far right. and i think the answers to those decisions in november could empower us quite a lot. remember how little we actually know about what has taken place over at the court, because of all of this secrecy. if we win the house and

republican senators can't filibuster their subpoenas, they could do a january 6th commission style investigation that would long last get to the bottom of this mess, and i think that changes everything. once people see the facts. >> what about the prospect, and i believe you've called for a special counsel investigation, have you not, into clarence thomas and his potential tax violations, ethics, violations? >> yes, there are two possible attorney general investigations. one is the one that chairman wydey chairman of the finance committee and i asked for, after being stone walled with basic fact questions about what happened to the $267,000 that justice thomas owed for the motor coach purchase that he apparently never paid back. what's the deal there? so when we got stone wall answers, we asked the attorney general to take a look into the

it. the second thing is that the judicial conference is looking at what justice thomas's misfilings about all of this were potentially willful, and if they find reasonable cause to believe they might have been willful, the actual willfulness determination must be done by the attorney general. they referred that over to the attorney general. both of those ways, attorney general garland could be looking into misbehavior by justice thomas. >> republican response to all of this has been negative. speaker johnson wrote in a statement today the reforms would erode america's faith in the supreme court. but aren't your proposals, sir, aren't you trying to build faith in the court? >> precisely. i think it's very hard for republicans to find their way around this when you've got supreme court justices that are taking these enormous gifts worth, you know, quarter of a million dollars, and freebies of all kinds, secret payments to their wives organized by court

fixer, leonard leo. the whole thing leaks of corruption, and they've got to pretend to defend that in order to assuage the billionaires who fund their super pacs, and funded the capture of the court. they're kind of caught in a pickle where nothing that they say makes very much sense. >> all right. rhode island senator sheldon whitehouse, thank you so much. coming up, iowa just banned abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. what today's newly enacted law means for women seeking reproductive care in and around the state. plus, donald trump is sharpening his attack strategy now that joe biden no longer the target. what he's hoping will stick as the race tightens between him and vice president kamala harris. and vice president kamala harris

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ban took effect. the republican-controlled state legislature passed the ban last year, but a lengthy court battle paused it until one month ago when a lower court judge reversed the ruling. joining us now, nbc news correspondent, adrienne broaddus. welcome. walk us through the year-long court battle that led to this ban, and what it means for women in iowa seeking abortions. >> hey there, alex, i'll start with your first question, and this delay was linked to legal challenges, beyond what happens when things get tied up in the court system. last year, this law was initially passed but a district court judge blocked it preventing enforcement across the state. and there was some back and forth, then last month, the iowa supreme court got involved, lifted that ban, allowing the law to go into effect today. and people in the city or excuse me, in the state of iowa and across the country say there will be implications,

specifically for women in iowa who may flee to other neighboring states for emergency abortions. listen in. >> we have put into place many options to help a woman through her pregnancy, a year after her pregnancy, and we've also passed a mom's bill in the state of iowa, providing services to make sure that whether they choose to raise their child or have the child given up for adoption. or even use our safe haven laws for that fact, that there are plenty of opportunities for women to get services after that heart beat that's detected here in our state. >> and that was shannon lund lundgren who coauthored the bill that goes into effect today. i also spoke with the ceo of planned parenthood here in illinois, and she told me that unfortunately, she and her team have grown accustomed to treating people from other

states, seeking abortions. in the last year and a half or so here in illinois specifically, they have added three additional clinics to help with the demand. and the demand that they will continue to see since the dobbs decision, she told me they've treated about 10,000 patients from out of state specifically texas. alex. >> that's extraordinary. okay. thank you for that. joining us now, professor of constitutional law and global health policy at georgetown university, michelle goodwin, welcome to you, so the legislation says it allows abortions up until, quote, a detectable fetal heart beat. why is the language around cardiac activity tricky? >> well, the language there is tricky for a couple of reasons. one, there's an emotive reason that lawmakers use that terminology because it gives the impression for some that there is a fully developed person or

almost developed person who simply is living within the body of a woman. this is why this language is used. but as doctors will tell you that at that point, what you have is cellular development, a time in which women wouldn't even know they are pregnant. it is not possible that any cellular tissue, growing tissue, would be able to survive on its own at that particular time, but there is a reason why that is a kind of language that's been used and has been furthered in recent years as part of the anti-abortion movement because it does resonate with people, this impression that there is actually a heart that is fully developed, that there are lungs, liver, kidneys, et cetera. >> so this ban, it says it gives exemptions to rape and incest. and for sexual abuse advisers,

they have exactly 45 days until the police or doctor, incest survivors have 140 days. but looking at the calendar, and again the six weeks, are these numbers even realistic? >> well, there are two things that are important to think about. the numbers are not realistic, and in states that have abortion bans where they have said there are exceptions, the reason why politically, those who want abortion bans say that there are exceptions is to try to appeal to their local constituents because across the country people want reproductive freedom, and so this is seen as a bit of an olive branch, but the bottom line, though, what's taking shape in these states is that these exceptions are very hard to penetrate. we know that in texas with kate cox, she was in sepsis, near death. she was not able to utilize the state's exception, in cases of incest and rape, they have become so onerous for individuals to be able to access abortion, going through those

exceptions, that they're more illusory than actually real. >> you mentioned kate cox, this gives exemptions for medical emergencies. does this mean that a woman's going to have to worry about the law while potentially fighting for her life, and by the way, what determines the definition of a medical emergency. is it uniform everywhere? >> no, it's not, and in the backdrop of these laws, what one must understand are the civil penalties, the criminal punishments and the other extralegal types of punishments and what that means for medical providers and then also what's been teed up in the states for individuals as well. can you actually have a medical provider who was willing to provide the services that you need. before dobbs, it wasn't a question. we've seen the kind of chaos and the drama and the fear and the trauma imposed on patients

afterwards as doctors fear losing their medical licenses in practice, as they fear stiff penalties, up to $100,000 and criminal penalties up to 99 years incarceration and worth noting that lawmakers impose the death penalty against medical providers and those that would have abortions. there are many different ways in which lawmakers have sought to chill medical providers providing care and patients getting care. >> let me ask sterling our director to put that graphic back up. i think people should take a good look at this, the color orange, the pale one and the dark orange. iowa is 22 to assert broad restrictions to abortion. what kind of strain does this put on clinics in neighboring states? >> that is an excellent question you have asked, and basically what we have seen is a new jane

you, as i have called it where there are women and girls who have sought to flee the states that have restrictive bans so that they can save their lives, preserve their health or get the medical attention they need. and that means that the demand, then, has been imposed in other places where they have constraints. it's not necessarily the case in those states they have opened up new clinics, been able to expand the care they have been able to give, and there are stressors on the systems, even as medical providers have tried to provide care to patients coming out of state, and even if that is their philosophy, and they're willing to do, governors, like governor newsom in california said come to california, we will help to save your lives and provide the care you need. that notwithstanding, it does mean that somehow there has to be more capacity built into those systems, in order to be able to accommodate. >> it's a sobering conversation,

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one week into the new presidential race, donald trump and his allies are trying to find a coherent counter punch that works against vice president harris, one that isn't racist or sexist or otherwise alienating to the voters they need in november. that conundrum hasn't stopped trump from trying a few things out since his first campaign event since president biden dropped ouch the race. take a listen. >> she was a bum three weeks ago. she was a bum. a failed vice president and a failed administration. so now we have a new candidate to defeat, the most incompetent, unpopular and far left vice president in american history. she's a radical left lunatic. she has no clue. she has no clue. she's evil. >> joining us now, former chief of staff to vice president mike pence, and cnbc contributor, mark shark. welcome. >> thanks, alex. >> it's kind of like trump is throwing the kitchen sink at harris. is there a risk making those

insults personal, those that we just heard are certainly personal, as opposed to keeping the criticism to policy differences? >> well, i think he obviously should keep it to policy differences but i think donald trump has been doing that for eight years on the political scene of making personal attacks, and so i wouldn't expect a change. i think there's no doubt that vice president harris's rise in large part is because of a lot of america was unsatisfied with the two choices of biden and trump, and she's benefitting from that. and so i think donald trump should be focused on the policies and try to tie her as much as he can to the failed biden administration policies. but i'm not sure it's going to stick because so many americans wanted something fresh and something new, and even though she's been vice president, this elevation gives her the opportunity to re-introduce herself to the american people. >> why do you think they're struggling to focus their attacks on her record. are they not familiar with it? have they not done their due diligence? >> i think they are focused on

her record, alex. i don't think they're as singularly focused as they should be. there have been plenty of attacks about her record, and also about the biden administration. it's that there's probably a lack of discipline to stay focused on that. and also moves into personal attacks. as i said, i think that's been a hallmark the last eight years. i wouldn't expect that to be different this go around. >> makes sense. >> this weekend, and this was something, trump said this to an audience of christians at the believers summit in west palm beach. i'm sure you know what's coming, let's take a listen. >> again, christians get out and vote. just this time. you won't have to do it anymore. four more years, you know what, it will be fixed. it will be fine. you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful christians. >> what is he saying? >> well, i think unfortunately he's often viewed all christians somewhat monolithically, i think there's also the notion that he's just really interested in

what this election holds and less concerned about what the future holds on policy battles for evangelicals. i think his focus is for now, we realize that there's a -- that we are citizens in this world, but there's a future kingdom to come and we want to try to fight for that in the future. >> what about this, we heard trump refer to his familiar excuse as the lead that he held against biden is shrinking against harris. here's that. >> we're going to have a landslide because it's going to be too big to rig. you know what too big to rig is. if they don't cheat, we win this state easily. they cheat, they have no shame. they cheat. you understand that, you crooked people. they're the most crooked. they cheat. they cheated in the last election, and they're going to cheat in this election, but we're going to get them. >> so there are 99 days to go. why do you think trump is laying the ground work for a possible loss? >> well, let's not forget he did

the same in 2020, and even in 2016. i think that we've seen a dramatic shift in the last eight days since joe biden announced he was stepping aside. a lot of what, you know, donald trump does at these rallies is entertainment, but unfortunately i think that there's been too much sowing of distrust from both sides into our election results and obviously we should be looking to accept results of the american people voting. >> more to come. that's for sure. marc short. thanks. still ahead, what we could learn from a victim interview donald trump just agreed to give to the fbi more than two weeks after the attempt on his life. plus a wildfire roughly 12 times the size of san francisco is still burning in california. what officials say caused it and the efforts of firefighters trying to contain it. trying to t , so they only pay for what they need. got it? [squawks] did you get that? only pay for what you need.

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been a real falloff in activity, so the gamer accounts he was using to communicate with others, really had not been used as frequently. we knew from before that he has googled major depressive disorder, and looked up various law enforcement figures. this all seemed to come into focus, though, when the trump campaign made its announcement just ten days ahead of when this rally took place, and when this attack took place, and that's when a lot of preparations sort of started turning up. he googled how far away lee harvey oswald was from jfk, and looked up an attempted assassination that took place overseas earlier this year. >> interesting. what is the fbi hoping to learn in the interview with former president trump, and in an interview like this, ryan, it's standard operating procedure, right? >> that's exactly right. yeah, so that's -- essentially they're treating him they say as they would treat any victim of an attempted crime. this is kind of what they would do in any situation no matter who was the victim of or

attempted victim of this crime here. they're really just looking for my perspective on the day. they didn't give a hint of what they would be looking for specifically. most of what they're going to learn is going to come from other folks, dozens of interviews, hundred dollars of interviews with people who knew the shooter, and a time line of what took place. what the fbi emphasized on the call today, which is sort of unusual for the fbi to continue to make these ongoing updates about a case. obviously this one attracts a lot of attention. they made sure they're on a fact finding mission. they are not looking to place blame on various law enforcement agencies. then others can sort of do the analysis on what was the failures here, but really the fbi is in a really fact finding mode here, alex. >> that's good to know, ryan reilly, thank you so much. a record setting wildfire in the mountains of northern california continues to spread. thousands of firefighters are on the ground, and in the air. they're trying to contain this blaze.

right now, it's only about 12% contained. so far, the fire has burned more than 360,000 acres. and destroyed 134 structures. that's according to officials. joining us now, nbc news correspondent, morgan chesky. morgan, welcome, i know that california's extreme heat and the dry conditions, that's got to be complicating efforts. are residents following the evacuation orders? alex, great point there, i asked that very question to one of the sheriffs in charge of these evacuations that have grown by the day in northern california where this park fire is burning. and he pointed to an event that took place six years ago that infamous campfire near the town of paradise which left more than 80 people killed and destroyed about wildfires, alex, but the sheriff told me it was that fire in particular that changed the game. everyone started to take the evacuation orders more seriously. authorities for their part became more organized, with evacuation zones in that dry,

rural area where this fire is currently burning. and that is why they point to the fact that as large as this fire is, no reports of any injuries or deaths. people have heeded the evacuation calls as now more than 2,000 firefighters have tried to position themselves as best they can and incredibly in remote areas here to cut fire lines and slow down the progress of this fire. it went from one flaming car, believe it or not, authorities say it was one man pushing a flaming car into a ravine that sparked this historic blaze and they almost immediately began evacuations and from there the wind and the triple-digit temperatures have fueled its growth. at one point it was burning upwards of 5,000 acres an hour. we have a short time near the fire line, alex, and i could tell you that it just takes a little wind to watch these flames fan across these valleys, chewing through hillsides there and that is why it is now

burning into four separate counties as we speak. i asked the sheriff how much longer before you could potentially have a handle on this? he said, we could throw all of the resources at this fire as we can, but they're going to have to have some help from the weather. they had that a little bit on sunday when the humidity rose and that kind of slowed some of the flames from spreading. but at 12% contained there is still a significant fire fight ahead and that is why we're seeing nonstop aerial drops of water, important to note, cal fire is now using several helicopters that have been retrofitted with infrared technology to allow them to make water drops at night time, everything helps when you have a fire moving this fast. >> and that could last for a while. morgan chesky, thank you. and coming up, we're live in paris for day three of the olympics competition where team usa's men's gymnastics just pulled off a historic team win. stick around for that.

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day three of the paris olympics is in full swing. team usa is leading the pack now with a total of 20 medals and that includes three gold. and last hour for the first time since 2008, the u.s. men's gymnastics team made it on the podium in the team final winning a bronze medal. joining us now from paris, nbc news chief correspondent keir simmons who i dubbed mr. olympics over the weekend because of your great reporting. i had trouble focusing on our shows because on the monitors, i had one with msnbc and one with the gymnastics team. they killed it. they were so good. >> and there was such an atmosphere. the spectators going crazy. but the team going crazy too. china at the last moment, which

could have even meant that they got better than bronze, maine silver. in the end it was japan and china and then team usa. but a fantastic result because they haven't medals since 2008. so for the men's gymnastics, the spotlight has been on the women so often. this is just an opportunity to celebrate. and to look to the future. so many of them are new and i think it is a bright future for them. gold medal for team usa. >> can i just say, i think the ukraine men's team, they did an honorable performance. i was pulling for them, giving everything they're going through in the country and it would be nice to be on the podium. and it is all about gymnastics and simone biles. so talk about what is next and what we saw last night. >> reporter: well, last night was spectacular. as i say, the focus on the women in the gymnastics, rightly so, it is simone biles.

we now wait for the final. simone biles could walk away with five medals and her performance just extraordinary. the spectators again erupting. she looked relieved. there was a moment her ankle was bandaged. her coach said that she had an issue with her calf. but that does not appear to be causing any issues with her competing as we look ahead. and the hopes for her now, i mean look at how happy she is. the hope for now how are that she -- she could really take a medal home here in paris after everything that she's been through. that would be extraordinary. >> you know what is pretty cool. is that she and suni lee will go fror the individual all around. it is never happened before that you have two women who have worn a gold medal in the all around competing against each other. it is extraordinary.

and i love watched the camaraderie between suni lee and jordan chiles, because she beat her by just a hair. yet tlar so supportive of each other. >> it is great to be in that team and tough to be in the team at the same time. >> that is a very good point. you made another one mr. olympics. thanks, keir. and that is it for me, everyone. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ aloha and namaste. it is health care in new york, i'm john heilemann in for nicolle wallace. we have a lot, i'm talking about a lot of news to cover today. out on the campaign trail, two rising democratic stars, josh shapiro and gretchen whitmer holding a rally for vice president kamala harris. we begin today with president jo