i am in the hall of fame. a three-time board member. this is my 35th year. this is where leadership failed . initially i was going to leave because i have to go to houston but i'm going to be there and i am telling you, if that man lies and they do not challenge him, you are going to hear someone from the audience say, stop lying. we, as journalists, must be arbiters of truth. we cannot and should not allowing someone to buy in front of us, especially somebody with his history. >> exactly and should not be giving the platform to lie to our faces but roland martin, thank you for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> that is "all in" on this tuesday night. "alex wagner tonight" starts right now with alisha menendez in for alex. >> that evening. always a pleasure to see you. there are 98 days left until

election day. the momentum behind the kamala harris campaign shows no signs of letting up. tonight, 10,000 hair supporters packed into an arena in atlanta, georgia. the vice president was introduced by three-time grammy winner and rat megastar megan thee stallion. harris used that moment issue a direct challenge to donald trump. >> the momentum in this race is shifting. and there are signs that donald trump is feeling it. he pulled of the debate in september that he had previously agreed to. donald, i do hope you will reconsider to meet me on the debate stage. because as the saying goes, if you got something to say say it

to my face. >> that rally comes as new battleground and state that kamala harris is wiped out his lead in all of the key states. the latest bloomberg bowling poll finds harris leading trump by 11 points. that is a major shift in that state. all six other battleground states harris and trump are in a statistical tie within the margin of error. heresies by two points in arizona, nevada and wisconsin. shipley terrace by four points in pennsylvania and by two points in north carolina. the candidates are running debt even in georgia the vice president's campaign heats up his running mate are spending their time running away from their own unpopular statements and policies. for wheat -- weeks democrats have been hammering over 20 25. it created by a conservative

think tank is a blueprint for a second trump administration but to date the daily beast was first to report the trump campaign has officially forced the conservative think tank to part ways with an architect of project 2025. according to report trump campaign manager put the screws to mastermind in an effort to port -- for some out. following that reporting the trump campaign released a statement trying to publicly distance himself from the project saying, quote, reports a project 2025's demise would be greatly welcomed. if trump really wants to cut guys -- cut ties, you might have to start filing people closer to home. a new book from the architects of 2025 promoting the extreme agenda is set to be released later this year. and the forward to the new project 2025 book was written by none other than trump's running mate j.d. vance. he even promoted the book back

in its original title was donald's early light, burning down washington to save america. a cover image showing a match over the word washington. the trump campaign has spent the past weekend damage control mode over the choice for trump's running mate. vance has tried to explain away bizarre and offensive statements he made denigrating adults who do not have children. referring to them derisively as childless cat ladies and arguing that parents' vote should count for most the non- parents. those comments appear to be more than a one off. they have unearthed even more video of j.d. vance calling people without children deranged, psychotic and sociopaths. >> these are basic cadences of life that are powerful and valuable when you have kids in your life. the fact that so many people, especially in america's leadership class do not have

that in their lives. i worried that it makes people more sociopathic and laser whole country a little bit less mentally stable. when you go on twitter and almost always the people who are most arranged and most psychotic are people who do not have kids at home. >> we care about children because we are not sociopaths and we don't want to live in a society sociopaths. >> joined me now democratic senator from california alex. thank you so much for being with us. we will get to your hello senator, j.d. vance, i want to talk about the new polling first out today from bloomberg. issues trump and harris incompatible races across seven swing states arizona, georgia, michigan, nevada, carolina, pennsylvania and wisconsin. that is a stronger showing than we saw when that was a matchup between biden and former president trump. i wonder what you think about it is about harris' candidacy that is activating the voters.

>> good to be back with you and the numbers are not surprising. the one thing that you can hear kamala say is bring it on. we know that vice president harris is bringing it to the campaign trail. the numbers are shifting and you see the excitement. you saw that crowd in atlanta. well more than 10,000 people at that rally. that felt like a mini convention already while the democratic convention is still a couple weeks away. the response to her entering the race, the quick consolidation of monks democrats and what we are feeling on the ground does not come as a surprise. i have known her and her leadership. the electric nature of her personality from her days in california. you don't get to be a successful d.a. in san francisco or attorney general in california, a u.s. senator for california and then be picked by president biden to be the vice president without the credibility, the experience, the credentials and

the ideas to move our country forward. that is what people are responding to. the race may be close to date that we are feeling increasingly positive about democratic wins in november. we just have 98 days to continue to do the work. >> senator, there is new reporting harris planning to campaign with her running mate as early as next week. your sense of the most important quality she needs to be looking for as she bets those candidates. >> a combination of things. probably the most important and personal selection that she will make in her career. who will be hurt ultimately governing partner in the harris administration in the next four years? i think just as president biden did with her she will look first at someone who is ready to step into the world of president of the united states if necessary.

there will be a debate about qualifications or preparation. it will be someone she feels comfortable with and will be a true governing partner and a lot of great talent for her to choose from. it could not be more excited. >> as you said a lot of excitement that bears out in the polling. it also bears out in the fundraising numbers we have seen since she announced her candidacy. yet, the campaign and vice president harris, herself, quick to remind us that she remains the underdog in this race. how do you see it? >> it is -- as someone who has been a first in so many steps in my career first latino president of the los angeles city council, first secretary of state in california and first latino in the united states senate. i know what she has gone through and has to fight to overcome to prove herself. her election in turning attorney general in california and the first woman african american/southeast asian vice

president of the united states on the verge of making history for our country. that is a lot you are working against. the negativity, the hate from trump and maga republicans. a victory in november is not guaranteed. we know the stakes are high but democrats across the country and independence across the country are ready to put in the work to organize, fun rates, get out the vote because we need to win this november. >> senator, we have about a minute left. i do want to get your take on your colleague j.d. vance and the fact that americans are continuing to learn about some of the comments he has made about childless people specifically childless woman. are you surprised about it? >> it is appalling. it is offensive as much as we have learned by now, i am sure there is more coming from where that came from. it is not shocking in the least bit because we also know who donald trump is.

donald trump chose as his running mate nothing other than a yes-man. it is just a continued reflection of what we note donald trump is all about. he is not about government or inclusivity or anything positive. he is not hate, bitterness, division. his only agenda tax breaks for the wealthy and extremist judges which is part of why we are in this position to begin with. democracy is at stake are going to do what it takes to win. >> i've asked a lot about the odds, thank you for refocusing is on the stakes. alex padilla, thanks . >> 20 now is roger sollenberger, senior political reporter for the daily beast. thank you for being with us. you have senator schumer planning to hold a vote this week that could expand the tax credit. you have republicans planning to block it. i wonder how all of that looks for senator j.d. vance especially after his comments about the importance of having children, taxing

parents less than their childless americans. >> reporter: it continues to draw a contrast especially in this 2024 presidential campaign. you have kamala harris tonight at the rally, i just left in atlanta, fighting for middle- class families and she brought up things like childcare and the tax credit. something that as president she would prioritize. i think we have seen that j.d. vance might he role that mac >>, i lost you. i'm coming back to you. roger, let me go to you. the new peace out title trump forces out of project 23 five mastermind. that project damaging to the trump team that the ousted one of the plans architect. tell me what you know. has the damage been done? >> reporter: i think that this was not as much about what project 25 is and what project

2025 will do as much as it was who project 2025 is. right now there has been a lot of jockeying for power over people installing the potential next trump administration. in my reporting trump's top campaign adviser has first the director of project 25 with the heritage foundation. the truck campaign tweeted about this being the demise of project 2025 the head of the heritage foundation responded with a statement of his own saying, project 2025 is going to be ongoing. it is about who is going to be at the controls implementing these policies. it does come at a politically testing a moment for this initiative. we have seen a whole lot of popular blowback against

project 2025 aims. these are published more than a year ago and have been out for a while. a lot has been accomplished in terms of this think tank efforts. what we are seeing right now is just sort of maybe a reshuffling of who is actually going to be in charge of implementing it. >> especially because a lot of it squares with trump's own a stated agenda, right? all about this getting the administrative state and gutting federal agencies. we have heard that from trump himself. you do not need to see it in project 2025 two know it is something he is interested in. i have to ask about j.d. vance, you undermine how his fingerprints all all over project 2025. vance wrote the forward to a forthcoming book based on project 2025, taking back washington to save america. i don't know how they disentangle fans from any of this.

>> it is pretty tough. the transition to kamala harris is jam them up a lot. the project of 2025 hitting the mainstream and that has jammed them. to be out there in public reports for more than a year now. what we are seeing now is people are starting to pay attention to it. it has become just a little bit too late for j.d. vance to withdraw may be his forward to this book from kevin roberts, the head of the heritage foundation. that forward is an excerpt in the republic that was just published today. i suggest everyone go read if they can. there is a violent stand against the existing system. they have gotten dumped on it. and the timing is everything. >> the language addressing

violence is, in fact, worth everyone reading for themselves. erin, i lost you but i got you back. it is critical because you were at the rally today. as her eyes and ears on the ground, what did you see in that room or on that stage that we might have missed watching the be back here at home? >> reporter: i think it probably did come through on the stage. i literally just let that rally in atlanta where there might has been as many people trying to get into that arena as they were outside hoping to get in. literally, thousands of people. they have the stars out in atlanta. i'm talking about politics and entertainment, which is how we do things. you had stacey abrams, jon ossoff and raphael warnock who made a rare joint appearance. bring back some of the nostalgia from 2020 when they won their historic victories and became two senators from -- democratic senators from georgia but you had megan thee stallion that represented the

crowd and was introducing vice president harris and talking about their relationship that came around working towards addressing gun violence. what i also noticed that felt the night was the same energy that i saw here in georgia in 2020. when democrats turned the state blue for the first time in a generation elected the two democratic senators. i don't know if they can keep up the same energy for the next 98 days. that is 14 weeks from now. if they do, this feels like a winnable state for her and a winnable race. >> i have less than a minute last. do you think project 23 five receives into the night? >> reporter: no. the head of the heritage foundation, kevin roberts came out with a statement today the work is not done. i do want to impress upon people the distinction between what this agenda is and who it is. i think what we're seeing right now is just about who is going

to be in charge of potentially staffing a second trump administration. i think the agenda, as it is written, as you have said trump has tied himself to all of these things quite clearly. he spoke at the heritage foundation and announce this groundwork that will be coming forth from his next administration. it is an inside baseball thing. that said, a lot of the maga right is unhappy with this. the person who forced the head of -- is a trump campaign staffer. he is seen as an institutional list. and he is not very well liked or trusted on the true believer side. we are seeing that playing it right now. >> but who as important as

what. errin haines, roger sollenberger thank you for being with us. and we have more to come tonight including an inside peek at the supreme court under john roberts . after a session that granted some big items in donald trump's wish list. donald trump trying to hang the fake title of border czar on his rival. we will get a reality check from senator chris murphy, next. p m staples under $40 that are anything but basic. get original items made by small businesses to cross off everything on your list. choose from personalized apparel, backpacks & accessories, decor to freshen up their spac, and gifts their teacher will love. when you need back-to-school supplies under $40 everyone can agree on... etsy has it.

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thousands of venezuelans have taken to the streets to protest what they say is a blatant attempt by president nicolas maduro to retain power of the election on sunday. nearly 8 million venezuelans have fled the country sense maduro took power in 2023. as many as one third of a quarter considering migrating if the current government remains in power. many of them to the u.s. this threatens to inject venezuela's crisis into our politics here, donald trump tries to hang his fearmonger about the southern border around the neck of his emma craddick rival vice president harris. with multiple political ads released today falsely claiming harris was named border czar by president biden. joining me now is senator chris murphy, democrat of connecticut but a member of the senate foreign relations committee. senator, always good to see you.

let us start by talking about venezuela. can you connect the dots for our viewers before we are watching it unfold and the immigration crisis that we so often talk about here at home. >> over the past decade, nicolas maduro, the dictator of venezuela has presided over a stunning collapse of the venezuelan economy that has caused nearly eight million venezuelans to leave that country. most of which destined for the united states. part of the reason why we saw 10,000 people showing up at the border every day last year. the united states just cannot handle it with current resources because of the meltdown of the venezuelan economy. it is no surprise that in the election that was held this week maduro clearly lost. the briefing that i have received today suggest that maduro not only lost but he lost in a landslide and is attempting to steal the election.

if he is successful, not only will venezuela continue to spiral and political chaos but you will see more people come to the southern border. that is why the biden administration engaged in some really creative diplomacy over the course of the last six months to do unite the venezuelan opposition to give them a chance of meeting maduro. maduro is now in a corner. we are working with our allies and partners in the region to try to force them to accept the results of this election. hopefully, we will be successful in that endeavor. the reason we are here today with a chance to be able to transition away from power to the opposition, united opposition is in part a story about affect the biden/harris eponymously. >> it is unusually talk about migration to this country, you have to talk about push and

pull factors. you have to understand why it is that people leave their home country in order to seek safety and refuge in the united states. which is why i find it rich when you have donald trump running not one but two ads attacking vice president harris on immigration falsely claiming she was named border czar by president biden. how do you see vice president harris' record on immigration? >> i think democrat should go on the offense when it comes to immigration and border policy. first, because, harris was not a border czar but she was given an important but discrete task. she was asked to try to work with our central american countries to reduce those reasons that you properly explained that people leave those countries because of violence or political disability or economic institutions to come to united states. she did exactly that. she organized over 50 american companies to invest $5 billion in three key central american countries. guess what happened? over the first two years migration from those countries was cut by 50 to 60% better

kamala harris should run on her record of successful being reducing close to united states from those countries. she also should run on this, we constructed a bipartisan border security deal. it would have passed if not for donald trump and j.d. vance. they killed the first meaningful bipartisan immigration and border security deal in a generation. kamala harris was for that agreement. she reactivated that today in atlanta. she has the opportunity to not only run on her record of success in reducing migration in the united state but on her clear preference for a bipartisan solution, a solution that donald trump did everything he could so the border would remain ms so he could get political advantage in this election because that is all he cares about. all donald trump cares about is himself and political advantage. he does not actually want to solve problems like the problem of so many people showing up an unplanned way to the southern border.

>> we did hear the vice president make that exact argument on stage in atlanta. the campaign has an at albert before you go i want to ask you about the situation in lebanon. israel has blamed has will offer a deadly attack over the weekend in the golan heights. that killed 12 children and the retallick with an air strike just outside beirut it seems they killed a top commander but how concerned are you about this escalation giving the war with hamas in gaza? >> i am deeply concerned that there is no doubt that israel has a right to defend itself as you know. thousands of families and had to flee because of ongoing attacks from hezbollah into that part of israel since the october 7th attack rate it is not in the interest of israel or in the interest of the united states for there to be a second from opened up between hezbollah and israel.

my hope and my belief is that cooler heads will prevail here. the biden administration has been hard at work on keeping that conflict from erupting into a full-blown civil war. there is frankly hope that we could build upon some of the successes that we had in allowing israel and lebanon to be in a more diplomatic conversation. i can only happen if there is a cease-fire and only happen if cooler heads prevail with respect to the northern front. i know the biden administration is hard at work on trying to make sure that this does not spiral into something much more deadly and long-term. we met chris murphy taking us from latin america to the middle east tying it all up. how relates to a nursing home. thank you so much for making the time still to come, we are going to talk about a little notice but crucial aspect of donald trump's campaign rallies. john roberts once seen as something of a moderating voice of the supreme court. what happened. more on that just ahead.

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lifetime ago it has not even been a month's in the united states supreme court ruled that donald trump is entitled to substantial muni from prosecution for alleged crimes committed involving poor official residential ask. placing him and other u.s. presidents above the law. now, while we await the impact of that controversial rowing on several criminal cases pending against trump, we are getting new insight into how the conservative majority of the supreme court came to it 6-3 decision. cnn reporting today that john roberts, who previous has been able to broker compromises, made no effort to entice the three liberal justices for even an ideological agreement that distinguish such presidential power cases in the past. people close to justices in the far right told cnn those justices were heartened by roberts after years of suspicions about his efforts at the center of the bench. according to cnn, roberts appears to have reached a turning point. joining me now melissa vermeil, msnbc legal analyst and cohost of the podcast strict scrutiny. it is good to see you. are you surprised by reporting that i just shared?

>> reporter: not at all surprised by the reporting. i was one of the people who for years had noted that despite being raised in the crucible of the consumer good leader movement. john roberts as chief justice has proven himself to be something of an institutional. he sat with the liberals on key abortion cases. he was low conservative who refused to overrule roe versus wade in dobbs. there seems to be a limit to that institutionalism. this community case took a long time. that seem to have been by design. the court waited until april 25th to hear oral argument and waited until the last day of the term to announce a decision. which according to those that reported this, seem to compress the amount of time for negotiations and that was meaningful because it seems clear that chief justice roberts was not interested in negotiating but he was interested in brokering a sweeping grant of immunity and he was not interested in any kind of compromise.

that, to me, was a real surprise. i thought the amount of time the court was taking to decide this case was because the chief justice was trying to get everyone on board for some kind of unanimous decision that would require some time to work out. it turns out they were just running out the clock. there was no compromise to be negotiated. chief justice will roberts want an imperial presidency and seems like he got himself one. >> help me understand this reporting in the context of the speech yesterday. president biden laying out proposals for supreme court reforms, many tory ethics rules, 18 year term limits, a constitutional limit that would overturn the ruling on presidential immunity. given the insights that we are getting into this court, i wonder how we should be taking up those reforms. >> reporter: they are urgent and necessary. this is a court with a 6-3 super majority. it will be a super majority for some time. it means that they have broad

power to do what they would like. and they have been doing what they like. they have the conservative super majority for about three years. each of those three years, this court has overruled a major president. dobbs in 2022, the furtive action cases in 2023 and this year they overruled chevron. i would argue with the muni decision they overruled some of the earlier presidents limiting presidential immunity in certain contexts. this is a court that is bent on doing what it wants and it that needs reining in. i'm not sure it was a reform that will get a lot of attraction this year. i think the democrats are no longer putting this on the back burner, they are running with the court. they recognize that this court is an impediment to any kind of progress that elected officials can make in their domestic agendas going forward. if they pass something in congress, this is the court that will unravel it in the courts. they need to address the court

and address this imbalance of the court and they knew it to do it sooner rather than later. >> you had iowa becoming the latest state to ban abortion after six weeks. they joined 21 other states -- you see on the map there -- that and or were severely restrict the procedure. the iowa bans does have exceptions, like many states. they are purposely vague and designed to have a chilling effects. the thing i want you to help me understand, are there legal remedies for best or are the solutions largely political? >> reporter: going for it seems like this will be a political fight. it will not be a legal fight. the iowa supreme court that upheld the span did so in a court of three. it was in their decision with the chief justice, a republican, voting to dissent. thing this law should not have been upheld. it is a very narrow law. i think iowans can vote to change their state constitution to provide more impressive and

robust protections for reproductive freedom. that is something that has happened in other states. you have the prospect of ballot initiatives. this is largely going to move from the legal realm to the political realm. here's where i think iowans have an advantage. this questions of freedom enjoys majority support. it cannot get to the legislator is because the legislature is so gerrymandered such that i what legislators do not have to be responsive to their constituents. if you can adjust the gerrymandering and the distortion in the landscape, then the people can have their preferences reflected in representative government. until then, you will have to see a lot of these with a constitutional amendment. >> melissa murray, thank you so much for being with us tonight coming up the conference on the overlook prayers deliverable for trump takes the stage at his rallies. what they tell us about the high stakes of the 2024 race. that is next. pe 2 d

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america. we need you to intervene. >> believe it or not, those were prayers. if you never had the pleasure of sitting through the entirety of a trump rally, you would not know that many of them start with prayer the whole trump rally is framed as a quasireligious event. the way the pastors who kickoff these rallies preach, it is not the start, it is evolving. a staff writer at the atlantic analyze more than a year's worth of trump rally prayers to try to understand how the religious right used trump and having affirming the election returning is now is the staff writer at the atlantic. mckay, thank you for being with us but you listen to more of a years worth of these pre-rally prayers. what did you learn? >> reporter: there are different themes that stood out to me in reviewing all 58 of these prayers. one of them is that the way that the prayers describe the state of america is kind of

borderline apocalyptic. you hurt a couple clips in the intro there. people describe america as being on the precipice of catastrophe as being wallowing in addiction and sin, death. at the root of this is the theological belief that america, much like agent israel in the old testament, has broken its covenant with god and is being punished for it in full mess. implicit and sometimes explicit in that idea is that to renew its good standing with god, america needs to re-elect donald trump who is a righteous leader and will beat america back into a godly place. the other thing that i think is important to note is that a lot of the prayers, not all of them, a lot of them rained the election as part of a spiritual battle. there was one pastor in south carolina, who straight up said, we are battling demonic forces led by joe biden and kamala harris. you could chalk this up to

provocative rhetoric. the truth is that if you believe that the selection is a front in a spiritual war with the supernatural angels against demons, it changes the way that you think about winning and losing. the stakes are just much higher for people who have internalized these ideas. >> i want to stay on that exact point. we have more video of televangelists saying a prayer in that spirit before a trump rally. take a listen. >> let us pray. because we find that demonic force, we are finding the real enemy that comes from the gates -- it is this leader called joe biden and kamala harris. >> it sounds different, mckay, coming from you than it does on the televangelists. you talked about winning and losing.

if this is the frame that this is all part of a religious battle, what happens if they do lose in november? how then do they process losing? >> reporter: that was the question that i kind of had but it was rattling around in the back of my mind the whole time i was reading these prayers and watching these videos. it seems to me that if you have internalized the idea that you have a divine mandate to win this election. that god is on your side and god has anointed donald trump as his chosen leader and he is supposed to be the country, if he loses, you kind of have two choices but you can accept defeat and accept that your entire theological framework, your faith was misplaced and that is going to be, you know, difficult. it will take some really hard work. or you can believe that something was amiss and the election was stolen and satan has his hand in this outcome and you can fight it.

my fear, obviously, is that we will see something like a replay of january 6th in 2020 but maybe even on a larger scale. i have covered more than 100 trump rallies and these prayers have evolved over time. there were prayers in 2016 and i'm sure there was a more extreme prayers like these ones. the theological underpinnings of the prayers have shifted and the way that they are framing this election as something that has eternal consequences is in knew from my perspective. >> mckay coppens with incredible new piece. thank you so much for making the time. >> thanks. coming up, identity groups around behind kamala harris' historic white house run. the organizer and a member of the newest group white dudes for harris joined me next. stay with us. so ple say, "why should i take prevagen? i don't have a problem with my memory." memory loss is, is not something that occurs overnight.

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women who four years ago began gathering on a weekly virtual call in support of vice president kamala harris. then harris entered the presidential race. that sunday night 44,000 black women joined the call and raised $1.5 million for the white house bid. that fundraiser has reinvigorated democrats and is fueling a fund-raising boom among other identity groups. in the last week alone, 53,000 black men backing harris raised $1.3 million. more than 164,000 white women raised $8 million, crashing zoom multiple times in the process. last night a new group, white dudes for harris, attracted more than 108,000 participants and raised $4 million in a star- studded call of its own. joining me now, ross morales rocketto, the organizer of white dudes for harris and an

award-winning actor who was also on the call. thank you both so much for being here tonight. ross, tell me, why white dudes? >> for too long we have been ceding white men to the maga republicans. the left has not been doing anything to talk to those folks for years and years and something that call showed us last night is the fact that there is white men who are not maga republicans. i think of those folks as the silent majority of white men who do not support donald trump. do not support his antics. last night showed how powerful that can be. we had 200,000 people get on zoom and today we had another 100,000 people watch the zoom or watch the feed after the fact. we raised over $4 million. we had over 60,000 donations that were made during the zoom call. there is a ton of energy out there for it and we were able

to capture some of it last night. >> i want you to know that ross, a once in a generation organizer, when i asked about you he said the thing you need to know is while rory is an incredible actor and performer he is in his heart and soul and organizer. i want to ask you as you are recruiting other folks to this call, what did you find to be most resonating? is this about kamala harris or about something bigger? >> this is 2008. this feels like a political earthquake. i remember when obama said we were the ones we've been waiting for and how that changed my life and changed the lives of a generation. a call to wake up and take action and you can't fake this kind of enthusiasm or energy around vice president harris. this is real, so it was very easy to get people to sign on, to join this call. we had the dude, we had luke

skywalker. we had sam wise and also known as rudy if you are like me from the midwest. i am just so proud that white men are rising to the occasion for vice president harris. she is the embodiment of the backbone of the progressive movement. she is a woman, more specifically a black woman and black women have been showing up to elect progressive white dudes for generations. it's time we show up for them. >> it has been described with some of these calls the groups are dragging themselves for the first 20 or 30 minutes before moving on to the other parts of the program and there is for some folks a discomfort, because often when we talk about race and ethnicity in america we talk about it only as all of the groups that have been traditionally disenfranchised. what do you say to those folks who might hear white dudes for

anyone and feel the slightest bit of discomfort? >> yeah, i was one of them. i was like i don't know, this feels so strange. joining a call that just has white dudes. but i tell you what, because these women started this movement and have been at the forefront of the progressive movement for so long, it is vital that we, as white men, show our faces. standing shoulder to shoulder with them over the next 98 days. showing them that we are ready for kamala. because the only reason they think we are in for that this country isn't is because of white dudes and that just breaks my heart. so over the next 98 days it is incredibly important that we phone bank, that we knock on doors. that we stand next to these leaders, these black women and women who have been the forefront of the progressive movement for so long to show

them that we have their back and we are not going back. >> ross, i have less than a minute left. what do you do next? >> organize. we are still trying to raise money for vice president harris. we raised over $4 million as i said earlier. we are trying to get folks to sign up to volunteer. folks can visit white dudes for harris and do both of those things and i will say this is not the last you will see of this group. we are really excited to be out in the fight for her and we are not going to seed white men to the maga republicans anymore. >> ross morales rocketto, rory o'malley, thank you both so much for joining us tonight. that is our show for the evening. now it is time for the last word with jonathan capehart, in for lawrence o'donnell. >> is someone married to a white dude, gay white dude, i think it is terrific how the harris campaign has