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>> history indeed. even for those of us who follow civic life in politics closely or cover in the news, this has been a whirlwind for three weeks. tragic and terrible event, the attempted assassination of a former president. the debate, which unended the race and the democratic's party entire idea of what it was doing and what it wanted to do. the president contracting covid, any time it could have been, it was that time. then deciding to leave the race and swiftly endorsing the person that he always said should have been a heart beat from the president, kamala harris. and excitement we have seen there. can you remember any three weeks like this? that's my closing question. you can always talk to me on social media. can you and your lived life on earth remember anything like this? that's my question tonight. as i sign out, "the reidout" with joy reid starts now.
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♪♪ tonight on "the reidout" -- >> she was always of indian heritage. and she was only promoting indian heritage. i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. and now she wants to be known as black. so i don't know. is she indian or is she black? >> you know the answer to that. trump's train wreck going into a convention of black journalists and insulting them, vice president harris and your intelligence. while doubling down on those black jobs. senator cory booker joins me in a moment. also tonight, as we continue to expose project 2025, which trump now knows is very damaging to his campaign, we'll talk about the big republican push to make the air you breathe and the water you drink less safe so that the wealthiest americans can make more money. ♪♪ but we begin tonight with the visual depiction of a dumpster fire. that may be the only appropriate
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way to describe what happened today when the nabj, the national association of black journalists hosted donald trump. it started with trump attacking one of the three moderators, rachel scott of abc news. after she asked, why black voters should trust him given his past comments about members of the black community. and it just went downhill from there. as he went after his political opponent, vice president kamala harris. >> first of all, i don't think i've ever been asked a question so -- in such a horrible manner, first question. you don't even say hello. how are you? are you with abc? because i think they're a fake news network, a terrible network. >> i have been the best president for the black population since abraham lincoln. >> better than -- >> that's my answer. she was always of indian heritage. and she was only promoting indian heritage. i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. and now she wants to be known as
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black. she's the border czar. she's the worst border czar in the history of the world ever been a border czar like this. >> how do you intend -- >> she didn't pass her bar exam. and she didn't think she would pass it. the democrat party is really the one that has the problem. i think they are radical on abortion because they are allowing abortion in the ninth month. they're allowing the death -- they're allowing the death of a baby after the baby is born. >> okay. time for a quick fact check. first off, no, donald. you are not the best president for black people since abraham lincoln, not even close. for instance, you like to claim that you have the lowest black unemployment numbers when, in fact, that happened under president biden. second, vice president kamala harris is black. she's always identified as black. her father, also black. here she is at the 2006 state of black america. she also wentz to howard university and is a member of the historically black alpha kappa alpha sorority.
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third, vice president harris was not the border czar. there's no such position in the federal government, donald. president biden tasked vp harris to look at the root causes of undocumented mass migration to the united states and to negotiate compacts in central america to slow the flow of migrants, which she did including with guatemala. not to monitor the border. fourth, kamala harris absolutely passed the bar exam. that is how she became the district attorney of san francisco and the attorney general in the state of california. and a successful prosecutor, donald, that is how she will own you in the next debate if you're not too chicken to show up. and finally, while we debunked this one, multiple times on this show, we must say yet again, that, no, democrats do not support the killing of infants after birth. that is called infanticide. it is very, very illegal. a word you know a lot about, donald, given your 34 count felony conviction, also illegal, having an i elective abortion in
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the ninth month of a pregnancy. which just as an idea is actually insane. having said all of that, i also just want to say one quick thing about this invitation. to the president and board of nabj, y'all got played. donald trump showed up at the convention for exactly three reasons. one, to try to dispel the notion he's scared to debate a black woman a presumption one can draw from his refusal to debating vp harris who again, for those in the back, is a black and asian woman. it's also why he lost it like a grumbly senior at the retirement home who didn't get his jello dessert when abc's rachel scott challenged him to answer basic questions. and how likely is it that he would have shown up at all the lady from the network that paid 787 million dollars legal settlement wasn't included on the panel. second to steal the attention that vice president kamala harris has hijacked from him because she's just more
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interesting and her support is more joyous and rooted in popular american culture. and three, to create clips to play for his very white, very right wing maga fan base of him standing up to the blacks. joining me now is april ryan, white house correspondent for the grillo and msnbc contributor. april, deep breaths. i watched that today in absolute horror. you are one of the people who spoke out against this invitation. talk to me about how in the world it happened in the first place. >> well, first of all, the nabj an advocacy group for black journalists, black press, extends invitations every election cycle to presidential candidates. but for this cycle, this special and unique cycle, donald trump was invited. but we know the story. and this is where i'm going to put the but in. we know the story. we have seen the movie. we spit the popcorn out and all of that.
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we know who he is to the black press. how he has berated us. how his minions have berated us from himself to tucker carlson who have come after me, yamiche alcindor and you, joy, so many like sonny houston from "the view '"donna brazile, don lemon, abby phillips. and understanding this, you're an advocacy group for the press, why would you invite someone that in 2018 you said you were appalled at his actions and used our pictures to say that so you're not appalled? what was this for? was this for showing clout? was this really for journalism sake? or was this just to pop your collar i can get a presidential candidate? >> yeah. >> this was -- it was insulting. my chest hurt the whole time. it was a shock and awe moment. i'm still trying to deal with it because the way he went after
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rachel, i'm very concerned. >> yeah. i mean, the reality is rachel scott, god bless her, the only one on the panel who tried to push back. she did attempt to fact check him but there was not a lot of fact checking in realtime other than her. the other two panelists seem to be sort of just trying to help him have a good time and make him feel comfortable. the other piece of it, rachel, is -- i mean, april, i'm sorry, april is the idea of this guy at 78 years old, nearly 80 years old, still not understanding that in america, if you are black plus anything else, you are black. that is not a rule black people created. it is a rule that thomas jefferson and other white founders created that they believe having one block of black blood made you black. by the rules of the people he reveres, anybody who is partially black, whether it's bob marly, barack obama, or kamala harris, is black and she's always identified as black. how does he not know that? >> she's always --
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>> go ahead. >> i hate to say it but the ignorance of his understanding of culture, of race. he doesn't want to understand. as you said, one drop, one tenth of black blood you are black. kamala harris is even identified on capitol hill. this is what i don't understand. he said one minute you turn around and she's black. you can't just turn around and make somebody black. >> she was in the congressional black caucus. >> that part, yes. and she went willingly to be a member of the congressional black caucus before she became the vice presidential candidate and before she became vice president of the united states. i don't think donald trump really takes the time to understand the black community or what blackness really is because what he understands is cs on those housing applications that black people applied for and instead of giving them housing he put cs for colored so they wouldn't get it. he also sees black people as those five young men who are now grown men, one is a city councilman for the city of
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harlem, the central park five, he sees us differently. he does not see us as human beings. for the way he came out at rachel right off the bat, he had no respect for her. but harris faulkner he did because she was there to cushion the moment for him to be with the black journalists. >> yeah. >> so, it was -- it's a lot. >> yeah. and lastly, vice president harris, there was some controversy about nabj not wanting her to appear virtually. apparently that is changing. imagine saying the vice president of the united states needs to show up rather than go to the funeral of a very important member of congress who was essentially the aunty of the juneteenth holiday, and not accommodating her. i think that's the other piece that was troublesome. >> very short sided. and this woman is potential -- well, she is to be in a few weeks the first woman to be the democrat -- black woman to be a democratic nominee and they forced her to come in person, when she said my schedule is
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tight. within the last nine or so days, she's now running for president. and they couldn't even accommodate. in a fire storm tried to make it fast to get her. so they're going to get her in september. either by video, virtual, or in person. we'll see what happens. >> take it how they can get it. i'm going to be at nabj tomorrow, but i don't like to not be willing to say to somebody's face what i feel, so i'm just letting folks know how i feel of it in advance of my arriving there because this was deeply problematic and it was -- >> dumpster fire. >> it was a show. yeah, it was a dumpster fire. we'll leave it at that. april ryan, thank you. >> yes. >> we will now -- let's now bring in senator cory booker of new jersey. i mean -- >> how you doing? >> listen, senator, you are a friend and former senate colleague of vice president harris. i just want to let you react to
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the senior citizen's criticism of her today. >> right. well, listen, this is the play book. i mean, we are literally sitting here talking about what donald trump does regularly, which he says something to deflect and divide. he wants us talking about crt. he wants us talking about dei. he wants us talking about whether a black woman is black or not. what he doesn't want us talking about is that he does not have a plan for america. that he wants to double down and put a national abortion ban. doesn't want us talking about that. he doesn't want us talking about his tax breaks that gave corporations to the wealthiest in america. massive tax breaks while leaving other people holding the bag. these are the things he does regularly. i tell you, i had to look up what crt was when they started talking about it because i had to answer so many questions m. >> so did senator rufo. he has no idea what it is. he made up his own fake meaning to rile up the maga base and get
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people to vote republican. >> it's not just to rile up the maga base, make us circle around talking about and be on the defensive. >> and reject it. >> all we have to do is talk about these things when he's dividing americans. making us go crazy as if he said beyonce can't sing. i'm sorry. i don't need to react to what is so obvious. she can sing. kamala harris is black. and, yes, bruce springsteen is from new jersey. i mean -- >> don't get him debating that, please. i think the other piece you said is very important. he wants us to talk about him. donald trump i think -- the thing that alarmed him the most about the last three weeks is the amount of attention, the mind share that vice president harris has stolen from him. >> yes. >> we have spent so much time now talking about her. you know what, she's really much more interesting. his act is stale and old. he is just doing his same old schtick from 2016. he hasn't changed at all. where she is exciting a new and evolving as a candidate. >> right. his play book is talk about the central park five when nobody is talking about you.
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and become a center of the conversation. talk about birtherism when nobody is talking about where barack obama is born because it's so self evident so everybody is talking about you. talk about good people on both sides so everybody is talking about your outrageousness. this is his play book over and over again to talk about the issues, trying to divide america against each other and embellish his credentials with his base and have us talking about the things that actually we don't matter compared to what kamala harris wants this conversation to be about, which americans need to hear about. this is about the economy. this is about the freedom to control your own body. this is about actually having a president who will stand up for working class people, the right to organize unions, protecting social security and expanding healthcare. on the issues he loses. let me whip up yet another racial that pits americans against each other and has the left talking about issues that actually don't really matter as much to what's happening in america. >> it's like arguing about the dress, whether the dress is
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blue. remember that thing. i got caught up in it, too. something really important happened today. the united autoworker's union endorsed vice president harris. talk about this campaign. it's been such a ramp-up. it's been so quick. it's been so effective. >> yes. >> it's been historic. >> it's been so historic. things like my grandfather in the great black northern migration, came up to detroit from louisiana, got a job on the assembly lines and was a uaw member and eventually union leader. and so, this is exciting. yet another working class union job -- union steps up and endorses kamala harris. why? because she's already proven with the the biden/harris plan they created more manufacturing jobs -- forget that donald trump has ever done. they're one of the greatest producers of manufacturing job in our life time. >> yeah. >> they created incredible with what they have done with the nrlb really going against the union preventing that the republicans have done, we're going to create union jobs. we're going to put by america
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into our big infrastructure investments and create more union jobs. so, again, this is so obvious and so quick. for so many people who fight for families, stand up for labor, stand up for good-paying jobs for the middle class. so i'm excited. i'm not letting donald trump distract us from the things that matter to new jerseyens, things that matter to this nation. we need to be celebrating this moment. dare him to defend his record. dare him to get in the arena with kamala harris as a guy who used to sit next to her as she dressed down donald trump appointees and supreme court nominees. >> listen. >> they literally -- when kamala harris was sitting there, because i was there, they used to rejigger their order of speakers on the other side of the aisle. >> right. >> to try to put their best speaker at opposite kamala harris because they knew they were going to have to rehabilitate some witness. >> they were going to get cooked. >> yes, exactly. >> the thing about last night's event, which we broadcast live
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on "the reidout" last night. it happened to come in our hour. the absolute joy that people are feeling. the fun that people are having. the culture being brought to the table and it's organic. it's not something that the harris campaign is creating. people are creating it themselves. i have never seen anything like it and she's stepped in that moment in a huge way. >> we have not seen this for almost 20 years. >> yeah. >> that people 35 and under now have an excitement and enthusiasm that they're not voting for the president of the past. they're voting for the future. >> that's right, yeah. >> seeing the young people dance, this young one brother who -- you know who i'm talking about. there he. he just was there. >> i talked with him on instagram but found out a moment ago because he was just on with my colleague, ari melber, that's not his name. i'll find out his name. it's not conner. he's conner to me. i love him so much. >> people have the reason to dance and celebrate. started to doubt about this nation and its future. now we have what i hope is going to be the first ex-genner to
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step up and be a president. >> come on, gen-x. we know the lyrics to kendrick lamar. >> i'm going to put a plug in. your instagram rocks. go to her social media. it's incredible. >> please follow me. coming up, trump is trying every trick in the book to gaslight america into thinking he has nothing to do with project 2025. it is still very much identical to his stated agenda. we'll dig into the disastrous affect it will have on the environment next. stay with us. s is pickleball? - pickle! ah, these guys are intense. with e*trade from morgan stanley, we're ready for whatever gets served up. dude, you gotta work on your trash talk. i'd rather work on saving for retirement. or college, since you like to get schooled. that's a pretty good burn, right?
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you know how i know that donald trump is lying when he says that he knows nothing about project 2025? the master mind of project 2025 is leaving his job after being pressured to quit by the trump campaign. but while trump plays dumb, distancing himself from the 952 page manifesto and the people behind it, his running mate is
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showing just how fully on board he is with it. senator jd vance wrote the forward for an upcoming book by the leader of the parent organization of project 2025. heritage foundation president, kevin roberts. in it, vance writes, quote, we are now all realizing that it's time to circle the wagons and load the muskets in the fights that lay ahead. these ideas are an essential weapon, unquote. it is abundantly clear why the trump campaign wants to run away from project 2025 because it's terrible and wildly unpopular and dangerous and weird. like their plans to deal with the climate crisis and the environment. last week, the earth experienced the four hottest days ever on the heels of 13 months of unprecedented global high temperatures. project 2025 would further harm the planet while rewarding corporate polluters and the fossil fuel industry at our expense. project 2025 plans to make our
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air and water dirtier by limiting the environmental protection agency's ability to combat pollution. and eliminating limits on forever chemicals in drinking water. it calls for withdrawing from the paris climate agreement. gutting clean energy programs and repealing president biden's inflation reduction act. and its investments in renewable energy. but what they really want to do is drill baby drill. and give oil and gas companies access to more public land and waters making them even richer and many of us sicker. joining me now is jamie hen, founder and director of fossil free media, a non-profit that supports putting an end to fossil fuels and addressing the climate crisis. jamie, i have pointed out some of the egregious things in their climate plan. what are some of the things that really scare you the most? >> well, joy, thank you for having me. look, project 2025 is the greatest assault on our environmental and public health protections that we have seen in
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a generation. you know, as you said, this plan takes a chain saw to a lot of the basic protections that i think americans have come to rely on. when we turn on the tap, we expect there to be clean drinking water. project 2025 would dismantle the office of law enforcement at the epa's water division so that polluters would be free to put whatever chemicals they want into our drinking supply. we expect to breathe clean air. project 2025 guts the ability of the epa to regulate pollution from power plants and cars making the air unsafe to breathe and our kids even sicker. we expect to eat healthy food. we hope that chemicals aren't in there. as you said, project 2025 aims to undue the progress that biden/harris made on pfas and reclassify tens of thousands of substances that big polluters want to keep using at the expense of our health. finally, i work on climate. i have a 3-year-old daughter. i worry about her future. project 2025 would undue all of the progress we made over the
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last four years on climate, putting all of our families at risk. i think environmental protections can feel like a nice to have sometimes. but this is really about our health, our bodies, our kids. all of that is at stake in this election and this plan takes direct aim at those protections. >> yeah. i mean, i lived in florida for 14 years. if you get rid of noaa, people are going to die if there's no prodiktability of storms coming. storms can literally kill you. i grew up in colorado. tornadoes. people are going to die. let me read you a couple of the -- the quotes from project 2025. quote, the biden administration's climate fanaticism will need a whole of government unwinding. here is another one. the federal government has an obligation to develop vast oil gas and coal resources for which it is responsible. i'll just do one more. eliminating the stand alone office of environmental justice
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and external civil rights at the epa. that is the office that focuses on how race and income affects access to clean air, land and water. it addresses things like the existence of louisiana's cancer alley. so basically they're also going to remove any chance of knowing which communities are being poisoned first and most. >> yeah. let's break down each of those because they're great examples of what this project aims to do. the last one you mentioned is really key. we know that black, brown, indigenous communities bare the brunt of fossil fuel pollution and climate impacts. the trump project 2025 plan aims to strip all of that from the epa we can't use any of those indicators to look at a community like cancer alley and figure out what's going on and how we protect people in harm's way. the other part you mentioned is to borrow a phrase, the really weird part, right? they want to privatize the national weather service because some of trump's donors have big stakes in weather companies. if you're in the path of a hurricane, you're going to have to pay to get information if you
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should leave your house or rely on trump and his sharpie to figure out if you need to evacuate. noaa, as you mentioned, mostly because that's the agency that does some of the best climate science research in this country. so, this plan really goes after our agency's both with sledge hammer but also a scalpel to strip out any mention of environmental justice and any mention of climate. it's worse than that. as you say, this isn't just about dismantling agencies. it's about turning them to wholly owned subsidiaries. epa is the environmental polluters agency. works on behalf of big oil and gas. bureau of land management becomes prospectser for oil and gas companies so they can drill on our public lands and in our state parks. this is a truly radical version of this sort of policy. and a completely dangerous plan that will really impact every american that lives in this country.
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>> no wonder donald trump is going to the oil and gas billionaires and saying give me a billion dollars because he's going to do their bidding. jamie henn, thank you so much. please come back. this was very important information. and for more -- >> thank you. >> and for more of our segments on project 2025 and how it promises to up end our republic, go to msnbc.com/reidoutproject2025. and coming up, how the grass roots campaign and fundraising behind kamala harris is nothing like we have ever seen before. we'll be right back. ver seen be. we'll be right back. if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you'd like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away
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♪♪ okay. stop me if you heard this one before because i definitely said it before. but the way that organizing works, particularly when it comes to organizing distinct communities to work together is kind of like a relay race. now, we are in olympics season. as a former high school track girl, this metaphor just resonates with me. be patient with my repetition. the four by 100 relay is my favorite because it's both an individual and a team sport. and what it requires is for the first person in the race to set the pace. they've got to burst off the blocks when they hear the gun. bang. then the key is the handoff. it's not meant to be like a soft handoff. right? you've got to slap that baton into the second leg's hand and they have to take it running, not standing still. so they can keep the pace.
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and every successive leg works the same way. every leg has a responsibility. that's how you win. what we've seen other the past couple of weeks for the kamala harris campaign really is in the most fundamental way the ultimate relay. various groups representing gender, racial and infinity groups used a method we have not seen before in a network of black women, business, political, entertainment, faith and community leaders founded four years ago by a social impact strategist was the first leg, the pace setter. they held one of their usual zooms they've been doing them for four years. but this one for kamala harris attracted not 500 people or 1,000 but 44,000. they literally had to get the zoom ceo involved to expand the call and they raised $1.5
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million in like three hours. that inspired the brothers to do the same. sellers, martin and a group called collective pact organized their own call and they attracted 45,000 participants and raised $1.3 million. the next handoff in this epic relay race was the white women, shannon watts of the gun reform group moms demand action was inspired to do her own call. she got in touch and organized a white lady's zoom which is crucial since white women generally vote mostly republican what shannon said gave them extra responsibility to be a part of the change this time. given all the risks that a second trump presidency would pose to women. that zoom, attracted more than 160,000 white women, who raised $8.5 million. wow. and that baton kept passing. the human rights campaign did a call for the lgbtq folks that raised $300,000.
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while two calls with latinas raised $168,000. and a south asian women's call raised 300,000 -- i mean, $300,000. you see how this is just building up? and then on monday night, the white dudes took the baton pass and more than 150,000 of them got on a zoom and raised over $4 million. y'all, this is olympic relay level organizing. and it's not coming from the kamala harris campaign. it's literally organic, as grass roots as it gets. as different communities step forward and say they, too, are inspired to be the kind of change that we need. now, i've been told the caribbean american call is coming soon and when we come -- when we look at this -- look back, the accidental campaign theme of the harris campaign, we aren't going back, will prove to be a collective and joyful act of multiracial democracy and commitment to moving this country forward. it's proof that not only can it
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work hard tonight. i hate to tell you, but i know you all got to go to sleep. the work starts tonight. it ain't over. >> if we do not change the country we're living in, our daughters, our sons are going to have hell to pay. this is an amazing moment for our country. let's protect kamala. let's be with her like she was there for us. >> i felt like good can win. i felt like love can win. i felt for the first time in a while like, okay, okay. we can do this. >> i'm white. i'm a dude and i'm for harris. i'm so excited. a woman president, man. how exciting! >> i'm white. i'm a dude. i love it. i'm for harris. i love it. that was a taste of some of the many organizing calls that took place in the past ten days supporting vice president kamala harris' campaign for the big job, president of the united states. joining me now are two of the organizers of those calls, shannon watts, founders of moms demand action and jo takea.
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remember back in the day when all of us hated zooms. oh god, another zoom call. you four years ago started great zooms. affirming, powerful and women have sisterhood. could you imagine in a million years that your win with black women call would get 44,000 women, black women, and some brothers, on the call and that it would inspire this? >> joy, i don't think that i could have even dreamed it. but, you know, we have been meeting as you said for four years. and i believe that the powers to be, i believe our ancestors, our sheros knew what we were doing. we just kept going and it created the space and time for us to meet the moment that came to us on july 21st. i think black women everywhere, the 44,000 that were on zoom and the other 50,000 that figured out way.
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there were 30,000 women and men and friends in a clubhouse room. so folks were just trying to figure out how to get in because we just wanted to be a sisterhood. as we heard latah sha brown said that night we knew it was time for us to get to work. >> yeah. i will note that the coo of zoom is aapi. so it was already an affinity moment to get that to happen, to expand zoom, like the technology to make it work. shannon, i follow you on instagram. and i remember seeing your post where you were taking up the baton. you were like, we can do this, too. you know, white women have a responsibility, a special responsibility. it is a large -- is the largest -- single largest voter group and generally splits almost 60/40 republican. what inspired you to do this? and what was the vibe on your call? >> well, you know, on sunday i saw what jotaka did. on monday night, i saw what row land martin and black men did and i thought, it is time, as you said, to pass the baton.
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it's time for white women to use their privilege and platform and power to have their own call, not to create a new organization, but simply to raise awareness, to raise money and to emulate and honor what jotaka did. i put out a tweet and instagram post it's time for white women to do the same, who is in. the response was overwhelming. 48 hours later we had this amazing call, as you said, kamala harris broke zoom. the excitement and energy around her campaign was overwhelming. and you know, we raised we thought that night 2 million. the next morning i got an email that we raised 8.5 million. the next morning i got an email that we raised $11 million. so, it's sort of mind blowing. but again, it all started with jotaka and really does go to show that kamala harris can and will win this election because i think all of us on this -- in this conversation, we've never seen anything like this, right? even back when president obama was the nominee. i mean, this just blows the
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doors off anything i've seen in my life time. and as you said, this is totally organic, grass roots organizing. >> absolutely. and by the way, let me y'all know the cat ladies are doing a call. the cat ladies are going to do a call because they have been inspired by mr. jd vance said they're ruining america. he said in 2021 we need to go to war against anti-child ideology. does his and donald trump's antipathy toward women the way they talk about women and denigrate women, is that part of what's animating this excitement? or is it just about vice president harris? >> i think it's all of it. it's all of it. i think we saw today just a blatant demonstration of what jd vance and donald trump, they're showing us who they are. the blatant racism, the sexism, the disrespect towards those three women journalists at nabj today. and also, when we look at j.d. vance, he talks about and just goes in on women without children.
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he's talking about me. he's talking about my friends. i am one of those women. and you know what, we all vote. and i think we're going to take that to the voting booth. we're going to take the fact that they have plans to take away reproductive freedoms, other issues around equity, child care, all of those issues are very important. i think it's going to be driving women to the voting booth. also the historic nature of vice president kamala harris, what she stands for, how women see her and see ourselves in her, but also the record in which she stands. the biden/harris administration has a profound record when it comes to women and women's equity and across the board whether it's maternal health, pay equity or reproductive freedom. >> yeah. by that standard, a lot of conservative women -- ann colter has kids. who are you limiting it to? shannon, somebody who -- i have three adult children, three kid dults. you know what my kids were concerned about in third grade, getting shot at school.
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they had to do drills that were terrifying to them as elementary school children because of gun violence. so, if they think that this anti-woman message -- you know, attacking women who don't have children, is not offending women who do, because we're also concerned that they don't care that our kids could die by gunfire in fourth grade. your thoughts. >> you know, i think that's just one of the issues animating women particularly white women. you were talking about the track record. white women, majority of them voted for the republican candidate in all but two elections since the 1950s. but we're monolith. we're divided among lines of religion and marital status and education. even if we get some of those swing voters, white women, who are so repelled by the gun violence in country, by the things that jd vance and donald trump are saying, by the removal of our reproductive freedoms and even ivf, if these things are as repulsive to them as they are to the rest of the voting public,
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then they can help kamala harris win in a landslide. >> yeah. >> we need the 47% of white women to impact the 53%. >> and by the way, white ladies, when they want to throw somebody back into the kitchen, it's not people like me and jotaka. we were never in the kitchen home, it's jaul. the targets of this anti--woman crusade, a whole lot of it is about you all. so everybody is getting together in formation. shannon watts, jotaka eddy, congratulations, ladies. thank you so much. coming up, fears of a middle east war are growing after hamas and iran are accusing israel of killing a top political leader of hamas in iran. more on that next. copd isn't pretty. i'm out of breath, and often out of the picture. but this is my story. ( ♪♪ ) and with once-daily trelegy, it can still be beautiful. because with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler, trelegy keeps my airways open for a full 24 hours
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a top hamas political leader and negotiator in cease-fire talks, ismail haniyeh, was killed this morning while visiting tehran according to
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hamas and iranian officials. ismail haniyeh had been in iran attending the new president's inauguration. hamas and iran blamed israel and bowed to retaliate. benjamin netanyahu did not address the attack, but did say israel faces challenging days ahead. israel did take responsibility for a strike on the senior commander in beirut for retaliation for killing a dozen children and teens on saturday. joining me now is msnbc national security and intelligence analyst and former cia director. and the executive president of the quincy institute. this seems like an escalatory moment and a frightening one. >> we are talking about an assassination in the heart of the capital during the inauguration. so it seems to have been
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designed to maximally embarrass iran and has succeeded in doing so because this is a massive intelligence and security failure. by embarrassing them that much, israelis also knew they would maximize the likelihood that they would feel they had no other choice but to retaliate and now we will see what happens next. >> what frightens me about this more than anything else is this is the election of what has been called a relative moderate in iran and if it becomes a situation where he will behave in a more radical way we could have a regional war. this seems like a recipe for war. >> is certainly edges us closer to regional conduct. -- conflict. ismail haniyeh is a moderate politician, but more pragmatic
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and engaged in terms of political negotiations to try to get a cease-fire. by removing him net yahoo sent a clear signal that he is not interested in a cease-fire and he complicated the ability of israelis to get their hostages out. so this is a setback and the inauguration of the new iranian president who campaigned for reform. he advocated dialogue with the west. i think matt and yahoo saw the opportunity to embarrass iran. to prevent the develop -- prevent the development of dialogue and also put the nail in the coffin so to speak of a cease-fire in gaza, which is so overdue and so needed for these palestinians who continue to die on a daily basis. >> more than 38,000 and counting. close to 40,000 people in gaza. it is clear to me and should be clear to everyone that
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netanyahu is a radical. he is a radical individual surrounded by more radical people. this is a danger because the u.s. in some ways said they would defend israel if attacked by iran. >> you are right he is a radical, but i think we also have to ask more responsibility from the biden administration. if the biden administration pushed harder and forced a cease-fire earlier on, we would not be in this situation. the ongoing fight, the slaughter in gaza, fueling all of these are the conflicts and from the outset the white house know about the escalation. there had been an attempt at a cease-fire, but without the pressure that was needed to put on israel to agree with it, you're not going to have one. if biden stops providing the bombs to israel, israel will have no bombs to drop on the civilians. we need to take steps to prevent
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netanyahu from starting a regional war that seems to be intended to drag the united states into it. >> that is how it feels. it feels like netanyahu who came to the u.s. and gave a reactionary, inflammatory speech in our congress, in the well of our congress, in the face of the biden administration has thrown down the gauntlet. he seems to want to regional war. how do we stop that and how we stop -- and how do we stop united states troops from being involved? >> this is where the united states is more effective in putting pressure on the netanyahu government. some type of regional war would be devastating for all concerned. there is an initiative to de- escalate. when benjamin netanyahu appeared in congress without a single note of condolence for the
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palestinians who died there. it is clear he has a militaristic approach and does not fear escalation either because he does not believe that hezbollah or iran will escalate to war or because he believes the united states will come to his aid if there is an all-out war. >> you must believe having donald trump in the white house would free him to do what he wants. >> he would certainly believe that compared to kamala harris. the body language and tone she used signaled she would be much tougher. >> scary stuff, but it is a real threat we need to take seriously. that is tonight's "reidout". please follow our show accounts on instagram and tiktok. "all in with chris hayes" starts now. good evening from washington, d.c. i am michael steele, filling in

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