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in its final hours. with a huge campaign blitz set to kick off tomorrow, kamala harris is about to make one of the biggest decisions of her political life. can her new running mate serve as a boost to what has already been a rocket-fueled start to three months of the presidential race? plus, stocks getting crushed today. a financial meltdown slamming full speed into wall street. wiping out billions of dollars in the process. but after the dow slid more than a thousand points earlier today, the markets have rebounded at least a little. there you see it down 901. we'll explain what is going on. and it is no longer a hurricane, but tropical storm debby has the power to make life dangerous and devastaing for millions of americans. the storm is now setting its sights on georgia and south carolina, bracing for catastrophic flooding. so how bad is it going to get? a lot to get to. we start with the political obsession over who kamala harris
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will pick as her running mate. now reaching fevered pitch. with nbc news reporting she is expected to make a formal announcement tomorrow. but not before the most intense of tryouts. a typically months long process, express ed compressed into a matter of days. harris meeting with three apparent finalists, arizona senator mark kelly, pennsylvania governor josh shapiro and minnesota governor tim walz at her home in washington just yesterday. publicly the contenders have been all over the airwaves. >> kamala harris is about solving problems, donald trump wants to take us, drag us back. >> there is nothing that scares him more than facing off against a smart, accomplished woman. >> i want a future where i can look the 47th president of the united states in the eye and say, hello, madam president! >> they've also been hosting fund-raisers, they have been posting videos, touting their
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accomplishments, saying the case of illinois governor j.b. pritzker or strength of character for senator mark kelly in a video narrated by his wife gabby giffords. >> mark never planned to be a senator. but mark knows when it's time to serve. >> so, while lists are being made and like oddsmakers in vegas, others tout the pros and cons of each candidate, the actual decisionmaker is someone who has lived the job for the last three and a half years. so, harris' criteria are born of experience. all that leading to that big announcement, the biggest of her young campaign, to be followed by a whirlwind trip to seven battleground states in less than a week. i want to bring in nbc's aaron gilchrist in washington, donna edwards served as democratic congresswoman from maryland, john kasich was the republican governor of ohio, both are msnbc political analysts. okay, aaron, what do we know about this announcement, when it
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might come down, and do we have any new hints about who it might be? >> well, chris, let's start with who there. the harris campaign has really been very disciplined about this process of selecting this vice presidential pick and also about releasing information about the process and about who might be on the shortest of the short list as we roll into what we know will be the announcement tomorrow. and so, and i'm told that their discipline really is consistent with how vice president harris operates and has always operated. and so we don't have greater detail about who the vice president has sort of narrowed down her list to, we know obviously that over the weekend she held in person meetings with the people that you indicated, senator mark kelly, pennsylvania governor shapiro, and minnesota governor walz as well. and that the process we expect to be now in the closing stages. we know that tomorrow, sometime in the second half of the day, we anticipate there will be an announcement of who the vice
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president is chosen. that's from sources familiar with her process here. and then they will appear tomorrow together in the afternoon, we believe, in philadelphia for the first time on stage, really part of the vice president's effort to get to all the battleground states, to make sure people have an opportunity to get to know her better and then whoever her running mate is going to be, people will have to get to know that person as well. and then see the two of them together to see what sort of synergy they have, how they're able to carry forward a message that the campaign believes they'll be able to execute in a way that will lead to a win in november. we do know, chris, that both governor walz and governor beshear are participaing in the campaign later today. they're trying to narrow down this final decision coming in the next 24 hours or so, chris. >> so, governor, i wonder if this is giving you flashbacks. you got a call at one point asking whether you might be interested.
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i don't think you got really into the vetting process deeply. but what do you imagine it is like for these candidates, i wonder what it was like for you getting that call. >> you mean from the trump people? >> yeah. >> well, look, i mean there were a couple times i was on the list with george w. bush. he called me that morning and said the problem is, john, you and i are on the same ticket, we'll blow the roof off the place. in terms of the trump business, his people reached out to me and some of my folks. look at the end of the day, i had zero interest. i wasn't going to be vetted because i would have lasted -- in that situation -- for like hours. one of my friends said minutes. i never went through that. it is interesting. what it gets down to, chris, is so you pick kelly, he's a guy that represents a lot of experience because of what he's done in the senate, plus, you know, the fact that he's a veteran, astronaut, very interesting.
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shapiro, has been governor for a short period of time, but people like him, and the question is, who delivers you the most, you know, shapiro, pennsylvania's absolutely critical. so maybe you go with him because if you don't win pennsylvania, you probably don't win the election. so, i mean, it is a matter of who can help you win, who has got the experience, i think that's what it is coming down to. i don't think walz is really, i mean -- nobody has told me this, i don't think he's really in play. i think he's been the favorite of the progressives. so i think it is either kelly or shapiro. i guess if you were going to bet, you probably bet shapiro because of pennsylvania, but stranger things have happened. >> when you talk to folks, congresswoman, about this, they talk a lot about balancing the ticket. i don't know what you think balancing the ticket actually means. it is obviously goes beyond a white woman -- a black woman picking a white man, right, but i also, you know, there is a
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whole chemistry thing as well. what are the more intangible things that you think are in play right now? >> well, i mean, first of all, i think you got to look at the research and so much research actually shows that this idea that everybody has geography is the most important thing when it comes to picking a vice president is blown out of the water because it is really not true. i think what is the case is that you do have to have some kind of connection, i think, with the -- with the two candidates, two running mates. but i think more importantly is that you want somebody who can really help you govern and deliver. and that's why, for example, i actually do look at tim walz because he's a two-term governor who governed in a state with a one-seat majority, does that sound familiar, and he understand really how to get the job done and he's a great
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communicator. but, look, on that list, there is no wrong choice, there is not a jd vance sitting up on that list and i think that all of us, whether people are from the left to the center of the democratic party are really going to be prepared to get behind that ticket. and so, i don't think that there is a wrong choice and there is some who offer more strengths or weaknesses than others. >> everybody has an opinion, governor. that's for sure. i mean, just this past weekend, if you go out into america, everyone is asking me who is it, i don't know is the answer to that. but they all got an opinion, right? and a lot of pressure has been tried to be put on kamala harris. i want to read this from "the new york times." to your point, progressive groups have trained their criticism on mr. shapiro and mr. kelly, who they accused of being too conservative on key issues. a group of progressive donors in recent days have been making a push for mr. walz, the minnesota governor. but i wonder how much weight you
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think groups have on a process like this. >> i think they have some influence, but is it overwhelming? i don't. look, i think there is a couple of things that we have to keep our eye on. first of all, the process by which she picks somebody and which she has to say about it, the fact they have not had any leaks is frankly pretty impressive. and so people are going to judge who she picks, not so much about who she picked, but the way in which she went through it, i think it will be analyzed. secondly, as we go to that convention, that democratic convention, that democratic convention has to go smoothly because it is not that you were saying that people don't know who these folks are quite, they don't know who kamala harris is, she's now running ads, they still don't know who she is. so that convention is going to be very, very important because it is going to be a defining moment for her. if the convention is raucous and
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crazy and riots -- protests in the streets because they picked shapiro and you got palestinians protesting, if that doesn't look good for her, so she needs not only to have this pick go smoothly, for her to be analyzed that she did a good job in her selection and secondly, get to that convention and have peace. without that, she could be defined in the wrong way, which is what the republicans are trying to do, which makes her winning in november more difficult. so, couple things we have to look at here as we head closer to the election. >> yeah, and i wonder how much it matters, can he give a good speech, right? congresswoman and how is he going to come off at the convention? there is some argument to be made as the governor just made it about a first impression or if not a first impression on kamala harris, a first big impression of her coming out, making a major speech, head of the party, somebody who for
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better or for worse the buck will stop with depending how the democratic convention goes. >> look, i talked with so many organizations and donors all across the country and i think even people who are advocating for one person or other, they are all totally united behind whomever kamala harris chooses. and so i think they are prepared for her to give a speech that sends them out on to the ground, into the field, knocking on doors, making phone calls, united behind that ticket. and so i think, you know, there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes right now and people talking to each other about what that vp pick might be, but i think at the convention, people are prepared for an exciting convention. after all, democrats and nobody has ever nominated a black woman of indian descent to the presidency of the united states.
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it is going to be exciting. >> aaron gilchrist, donna edwards, thank you, both. governor kasich, you are staying with me. the markets' massive sell-off and the growing mutiny on wall street calling for an interest rate cut from the federal reserve, we'll explain in 90 seconds. reserve, we'll exn in 90 seconds. carpal tunnel syndrome, and lower back pain, we wondered, could these be warning signs of something bigger? thank goodness we called his cardiologist because these were signs of attr-cm, a rare and serious disease... ...that gets worse over time. if you see any of the warning signs, don't wait, ask your cardiologist about attr-cm today. (vo) you've had thyroid eye disease for a long time. and you've lived with the damage it caused. warning signs, don't wait, but even after all these years, restoration is still possible. learn how at tedhelp.com.
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we're following the breaking news out of wall street.
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the dow, look at this, down 950 now. 958. a global market sell-off intensifies. friday's disappointing july jobs report showed that the unemployment rate was at a three-year high, 4.3%. that produced whispers of a potential recession, growing concerns about the strength of the u.s. economy, the japanese markets dropped more than 4400 points. that's their sharpest since the black monday crash of '87. adding to the downturn, investor concerns that the federal reserve waited too long to begin cutting interest rates. something that is now frequently forecast for next month. and nbc's senior business and data correspondent brian cheung jo joins me now. i find myself staring at the cnbc screen. is this a panic? is this a momentary pause? are we in for a readjustment? >> yeah, we want to be careful about using the word panic,
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right. especially when you consider we're off of the day's lows, the markets were actually having an even rougher morning right as the markets opened up at 9:30. the big story here is the jobs report that we got for friday. you mentioned the unemployment rate ticked up, the amount of job gains from that report, 114,000 added in the month of july. that's below what wall street expected. but what markets really don't like is uncertainty and things that they don't expect. and they didn't expect that jobs report to look as bad. they didn't expect the japanese stock markets to look so bad. i want to point out also european markets had a tumble as well. 3% down on french and the uk stock markets. so this is kind of spilling back over into the united states. you have investors saying you know what, stocks which have still been broadly up over the last year, maybe we just needed to do a little course correction here and probably reposition our stocks and equities. that might explain what is happening. the other big story is the federal reserve, they opted not to do anything with interest rates last week.
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now you have the market action and jobs report telling them, maybe they have to cut interest rates even more aggressively than people had expected. expectations they could do a half a percentage point interest rate cut when they next meet on september 18th. >> we have got more than a month to wait to see how that all plays out. >> buckle up. >> okay, brian cheung, thank you. the hurricane that slammed florida as a category one today may have just been downgraded to a tropical storm. but it has been deadly. officials are now warning of prolonged catastrophic flooding for days to come. police say a 13-year-old boy was crushed by a tree inside his mobile home, an hour away on highway 19, a 12-year-old boy and woman died when a suv she was crashing crashed into a railing, flipped over and fell off the side of the road. three hours south in hillsborough, the sheriff's office is searching in the water for the driver of a semitruck that veered off another highway. they posted this video of emergency teams yanking that
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truck out of the canal below. you can see the hook that is lodged into the wheel. torrential rain and winds of up to 80 miles per hour cut off power to more than 300,000 households and brought unbelievable scenes to nearby neighborhood streets. one man recorded this video of catfish flopping around in his driveway, washed up by the storm. nbc's marissa parra is live from florida and nbc meteorologist bill karins is here in studio with me. what is the status where are right now, melissa? >> reporter: you mentioned that video, i can actually attest to the fact that when we were out here live earlier there were little fish that were swimming around us as we were doing our live hit. but to your other point earlier, regarding the seriousness of all of this, it can be easy for people to underestimate a storm like debby, a category 1, the wind strength at most is about 80 miles per hour, which is still strong, however the most
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dangerous part of all of this and we have been stressing this since the very beginning is the rainfall. and flooding can be the most dangerous and deadly aspect of a storm system. and so we have already seen this storm system turn deadly. i want to show you what we're seeing here. behind me is a combination of this steinhatchee river and the gulf of mexico spilling over on to the streets here, and this is not where we were this morning. we at 5:00 in the morning were in a very different spot. we had to evacuate because the water levels were rising so high, it was no longer safe for us to be there. this is what everybody is keeping their eye on through debby's path. it is not just florida. we're in the big bend area, we're still getting that rainfall, but this is going to continue to make its way through places like savannah, georgia, like charleston, south carolina, and so we have our crews ready and in place. if you're watching from those areas, get ready, because this is what is headed your way. this could be catastrophic in certain parts of the country. this is what we're seeing here,
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though, in steinhatchee. so, this is an example of one building, this is a place that is used to rainfall, used to seeing higher water levels, not quite this high. and you can see that water level, we have seen plenty of examples like this of that water getting through the houses, going up to the doors, we know there are people further down the street, that were trying to sweep the water outside of their home. and so, chris, when we talk about the changes here, when i comes to storm systems, hurricanes, rapid intensification, we have talked about that, the gulf of mexico, a major contributing factor in all of this. >> yeah, and using a broom is probably not very effective when i see the wind whipping up behind you and how fast that water is moving. thank you for that. okay, bill. what's next? >> nothing fast. very slow, slow stroll through the southeast. not what anyone wants to hear. and this storm is not moving
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right now. barely moving. i'm concerned, interstate 75 must be a river right now between lake city and valdosta. it has been pouring two to three inches an hour for the last four hours. they're under a flash flood warning for that reason across 10 through 75. these flash flood watches, they'll be extended. they'll go up the east coast, all the way into new england by the time we get to the end of this week. it is not going to happen for a couple of days. they're not issued yet. we have a tornado watch, haven't had in reports of tornados in the last two days, that's good. hopefully we won't. it is still possible. and you can notice, look at that heavy rain. the center is here, well out ahead of it, coming off the warm water here, right off the gulf, gulf stream. and it is going all the way up into areas of charleston and savannah. it is starting now and won't end until like thursday or friday. that's the problem. too much rain over extended period of time. it is going to squiggle over this is 48 hours as we get off the coast here wednesday morning and then it will head northwards. it may actually, if it is enough off the coast, it could strengthen a little bit. that's a big concern, how long
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will it linger, and then the bubble contains d.c., philadelphia and up to new york city now. that moisture is heading north, my friends. unfortunately, it is going to be a lot of flooding. 10 to 20 i6r7b8 inches in the a the south. the northeast, thunderstorms tuesday night to wednesday, and then the moisture from debby, you saw the pictures over the last week in vermont, people are wondering how many heavy rainfall events can we get like this. climate change, we're having them more often, the atmosphere is warmer and unfortunately this is what we have to deal with now. >> so, 6.82 inches in new york over the weekend. >> friday into saturday. two-parter. it is going to be a mess, yeah. apologize for anyone's weekend plans. >> you got to feel for those people who are down south and keep getting it again and again and again. bill karins, thank you for that. coming up, the new poll showing kamala harris reshaping the race for decision 2024 and why nearly three dozen
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president kamala harris has reset the presidential race as the new democratic nominee.
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the latest cbs news poll has harris leading trump by one point, that is within the margin of error. but the latest in a series of polls with her gaining ground on trump, putting new pressure on his campaign. "the washington post" reports that local gop officials in battleground states have raised alarms about the scant presence of trump campaign field staff. and the former president who has always been obsessed with numbers is said to be worried about the size of kamala harris' crowds. nbc's garrett haake is reporting from washington, d.c., joining us josh dossy, political investigative reporter for "the washington post" and back with us, former governor john kasich. cbs is out with its poll. trump leads in georgia, north carolina, wisconsin. harris in nevada, but all of those are within the margin of error. you've got new reporting on the trump campaign in those states. bring us up to speed.
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>> kamala harris has the enthusiasm and excitement here that the trump campaign had a few weeks ago. the trump campaign, the rnc convention felt strong about their chances. lots of folks were properly predicting a landslide and then biden dropped out. you've seen a lot of money come into the kamala harris campaign and enthusiasm and excitement. the polls are close now. and you have a candidate in trump who is quite annoyed at this, quite annoyed at watching all of the positive news kamala harris has gotten in the press, seeing the money she's gotten and the polls tighten and we have a different race than we had a couple of weeks ago. no question about it. if you talk to anyone in former president trump's orbit, they would tell you they know they have a dogfight on their hands now. >> in that new cbs poll, harris leads trump by 63 points among black voters and eight point increase from biden's last numbers. she's also performing better among 18 to 29-year-olds, 26
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points up on trump. how important are those kinds of margins as we look at what is just a three-month campaign now? >> it is critical that the african american vote is enthusiastic, that it shows up. and that she can -- i think that's likely to happen. and then she's got to try to figure out what she can do to make sure that she can get more numbers than hillary clinton got from the white community. we'll have to see. but, again, chris, i have to say, in talking to some pollsters this morning, one in particular, things are just not settled yet. you're having a little bit of what greenspan called irrational exuberance. the country was saying, we don't want the same old guys, you know, we want something different. and so biden was kind of dragging them down, harris has come in, she performed very well, and the enthusiasm is way up. that's to her benefit. can she keep that enthusiasm up?
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and then there is one other thing that in the previous story, couple blocks ago, you were talking about wall street, the economy, what is happening, chris, at the end of the day, always gets down to the economics, to the pocketbook. and so we have a ways to go to see how that plays out. but at the end, she's got great enthusiasm. she's doing well. can she keep it going? can they get through that convention and have a good convention? and then, you know, trump, he's out there attacking the governor of georgia, who is very popular, and it was a disaster at the african american journalist conference, it is like he's doing everything he can to say, hey, it's the old trump, remember there was a point at which i think people were starting to feel, well, you know, maybe he's not so bad, he's reminding people currently about the kind of guy he is. i don't think that works to his benefit at all. >> old dog, new tricks. okay, garrett. this is not the first time that donald trump has focused on
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crowd sizes. but what is he saying now? >> yeah, chris, it is funny to hear josh talk about a brand-new trump. brand-new trump campaign but the reality is some things always stay the same with donald trump. bragging about his crowd size and sharing conspiratorial theories about why it is not being covered appropriately or perhaps why they should be bigger or his opponent has been inflaing her crowd size has been a hallmark of trump's campaign. here is a little bit of what donald trump had to say about who was in his crowd and who wasn't. >> crazy kamala, ultra left, you know that, she was here a week ago, lots of empty seats. but the crowd she got was because she had entertainers. the school administration stopped us from getting another
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500, 600, even a thousand people in. thousands of people were told no. thousands of people, they won't let them in. harris, you know why? they don't want to show we're successful. they don't want to show. she has to get entertainers. they start leaving as soon as she opens her mouth. >> it is not worth the time to do a fact check there. but this is one of those things that has always been true about donald trump, the harris campaign wanted to get under his skin, they could follow him around the country and book the same venues every week for the next 90 days and get him talking about crowd size instead of whatever else he wants to be talking to. it is an absolute staple of his public appearances. >> yeah. but does it really broaden the base then? all right, governor. there are -- speaking of the base, nearly 30 republican parties -- >> you wonder why i wouldn't have been interested in being his running mate. just think about that last clip. >> i don't want to presuppose
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getting into your brain, governor, but some folks who served in the trump administration are now endorsing kamala harris, among 30 pretty well known republicans, the vice president si cites them as part her new republicans for harris initiative. it is early, but i wonder if there is a door opening and if some or all of these maybe could help her make some inroad noose reaching those disaffected republicans who are the ones we have been talking about, right, who is going to actually decide this election? >> well, it is the interesting question. again, i think for a while there, just my feeling in watching the race, that he was sort of being normalized. you had biden who was doing very poorly, you had the debate, trump did well in the debate. they had people, like, well, maybe, you know, maybe he's not what i thought he was. now with the series of missteps
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and with harris rising, are we in a situation now where these republicans, these sort of republicans who were leaning kind of maybe to vote for trump, i think with the republicans coming out and saying, no, we're not for trump, we're for harris, that gives them a reason to think about, well, maybe i don't need to vote republican. you know, in 2020, as you know, i endorsed biden. i was one of the first -- we spoke at the convention, it was very unusual that that kind of a thing happened. doesn't happen very often. but i think now it is kind of become normalized. do i think, chris, do i think that endorsements matter that much? except for me endorsing you for mayor of new york city, which i am willing to do, that endorsement would be powerful, but most of the time i don't think endorsements matter that much. >> i can't imagine a worse candidate than me. but i do appreciate it, governor kasich. and, garrett, you didn't break
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out and, josh, you didn't break out into raucous laughter, i at least appreciate that, i'll give josh the stone-faced i'm not getting into this. my platform is more chocolate. thank you, all. coming up, serious stuff, israel bracing for an all but imminent attack from iran and its proxies after the assassinations of top hamas and hezbollah leaders. we have got a live report from tel aviv coming up next. we havem tel aviv coming up next. it's payback time. all these years, you've worked hard. you fixed it. you looked after it. maybe it's time for your home to start taking care of you. we've invested in our home, we've worked on it, we had a whole lot of equity just sitting there, you paid down the mortgage, invested in your home. i guess, you could say, your home owes you.
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moments from now, president biden will convene his national security team to discuss the turbulent situation in the middle east. as israel braces for an imminent attack from iran and its proxies. secretary of state antony blinken told his g-7 counterparts that an attack could come as soon as today. that's according to axios citing three sources briefed on the call. nbc's ellison barber is reporting from tel aviv. also with us, aaron david miller, former arab israeli negotiator and senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. good to have both of you here. ellison, iran's supreme leader vowed to retaliation for the assassination of a leader last week. what do we know about israel and its allies and how they're preparing? >> reporter: yeah, you touched on some of it, chris. secretary of state antony blinken having a call with his g7 counterparts and based on a
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readout from the state department, we understand that that call focused largely on what they're describing as the need for de-escalation in the middle east, and that call, they also say they discussed the importance of still working toward a cease-fire and some sort of hostage deal, some sort of negotiation moving forward. but it also said that the secretary of state and the foreign ministers reiterated their commitment to israel's security and urged maximum restraint from all parties to keep the conflict from escalating. we also know in the overnight hours, i think we can describe it as last night now, israel's defense minister spoke to his counterpart, u.s. secretary of defense lloyd austin, and he briefed them on what israel is describing as the idf's preparedness by land, by sea, and by air to deal with this attack and to defend israel, they say, against threats posed by iran and its proxies. interestingly, in the last six,
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seven hours of today, we have seen some reports coming out from neighboring arab countries about what if any response or support they might be willing to provide israel. one in particular that stood out, local reports coming from egypt, they quote egyptian authorities as saying that they have had conversations with both iranian officials as well as israeli officials and told them that their air space is not going to be used for any military measures and they reportedly had that conversation with both tehran and tel aviv, saying essentially they want to stay out of this. how that actually plays out, if a large scale attack like the one we saw in april were to happen again, that remains to be seen. but they're saying don't count on us to shoot things down and also telling iran, we don't want to be involved one way or the other in this situation. and israeli official has told our colleague that when it comes to what they expect from this attack, they are expecting it to be a multiday event, with attacks likely coming from
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hezbollah in the north as well as iran. that would be different than what we saw back in april, the last time iran carried out a large scale retaliatory strike against israel. and that one it was 300 plus drones and missiles, but hezbollah for the most part sat that one out. this time they expect it to come from the north and also from iran and they say this could likely be days of waves of attacks. chris? >> thank you so much for that, ellison barber. aaron, that april incident that she mentioned, military experts believed it was very carefully calibrated, right, something that was, i guess you would call it a proportionate response, saving face, but not triggering a wider war. are you expecting something bigger here? >> absolutely. i think the situation gets worse before it gets worse. and the only real question i think is whether the escalation, which is coming, can be controlled or whether it trips into something the middle east
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has never experienced before, a genuine multifront regional war involving israel, lebanon, syria, iraq, the houthis in yemen, maybe even a direct iranian and israeli set of exchanges, which could easily draw the u.s. in. the question, only two things to pay attention to here, number one, how serious and comprehensive will the iranian response be? i suspect it won't be telegraphed. it is an effort, i think, to cause the israelis significant pain. they may or may not stay away from urban areas. they strike a military target or a key piece of infrastructure. in view of that, if it goes on for several days and hezbollah can do much more damage because it takes 12 minutes for a cruise missile to reach israel from iran, we're talking seconds, minutes, if hezbollah launches the high trajectory weapon. again, the question is what will the iranians actually do, and
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how will the israelis feel compelled? they will feel compelled to respond. that's the key issue. both of those shoes have yet to drop and i would suspect we're in for -- in for news either tonight, during the wee hours, our wee hours, or the next day. >> what about the houthis, aaron? in yemen, they struck a liberian container ship in the gulf of aden. how do they fit in? >> 70 attacks since october, two ships sunk. at least two americans killed. and a plummeting of red sea global trade through the suez canal. they have the capacity and they have done something even hezbollah has not done, which is strike israel, with a long range ballistic missile. 1300 miles, they launched, got through israel's air defense and ended up landing in tel aviv where it killed at least one individual and wounded several
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more. that won't be as an intensive front as hezbollah but the houthis will get into the act to distract the air defenses to the degree they can. >> aaron david miller, thank you. up next, presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. admitting he dumped a dead baby bear in central park nearly a decade ago. we'll dig into the new reporting out in "the new yorker." you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. rker." you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. and i was done settling. if you still have symptoms after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that can rapidly relieve joint pain, stiffness, and swelling in ra and psa. relieve fatigue, and stop further joint damage. and in psa, can leave skin clear or almost clear. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections,
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independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. is now admitting that he abandoned a young dead bear in central park after initially planning, he says to skin the cub for meat. rfk junior publicly acknowledged this story to get out ahead of a new yorker profile published this morning. he said he did it because he thought it would quote, be funny to make it look as if the animal had been killed by a cyclist. when the interviewer asked kennedy about it, he said, maybe that's where i got my brain worm, referencing "the new york times" reporting in may that kennedy had dark spots on brain scans, an abnormality, a doctor believed was caused by a worm that ain't a portion of his brain. vaughn hillyard, i immediately went to new yorker and clicked and there the story was. >> this was claire malone's
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reporting for the new yorker and on a sunday afternoon while many people were probably watching the olympics, including myself, this suddenly on twitter a video popped up from robert f. kennedy jr. over the course of several minutes he's telling roseanne barr his own version of events from a decade ago, widely covered by "the new york times" writing about this dead bear that was found. rfk jr. goes on to describe that he found the bear after a van hit it. he picked it up. it was dead. he thought he would be able to get a tag for it, so he would be able to grill it himself. but he ended up driving into new york city. he went to peter luger steak house in brooklyn, while the bear was in the back of his truck. he had a flight to catch. he realized he didn't have enough time, and decided to make his way to central park where he dropped off the bear. he had an old bike in the back of the vehicle, and because there had been biking accidents, he thought it would be funny to put the bike on top of the bear
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in central park and have somebody eventually discover it which was exactly what took place, a woman was on a walk. finds the dead bear cub along with the bicycle, and a decade later, we now are finding out in rfk's own words that, in fact, it was his idea to drop the bear before he caught a flight out of new york city after having that steak in brooklyn. >> i don't know the inflection in the conversation that he had with the new yorker or the revelation he decided to affirm, but does he seem worried about it and what it might mean for his campaign, which frankly just looking at the polls has been on a downward trajectory. >> right, it's a fledgling campaign, one that at one point in time was gaining ballot access across the country, and he was appealing to folks on the right, left, had a grab bag of issues. perhaps he has not been the
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ideal messenger for people looking like him. he has a photo not only looking to eat as if it was a dead goat or a dead dog but also now there's a photo that i don't believe we're going to show ourselves, but it's of this bear cub that he had a photo of himself taken with this arm sort of jokingly inside of the bear cub's teeth. it's dark. >> it's bloody. >> it's bloody, it's weird. i think it's emblematic of robert f. kennedy jr.'s presidential campaign, one that we were covering early on. there's brain worm stories. there's difficult divorce. there's a lot of complicating attributes in life pieces of this man who is running for president, and so while he is gaining ballot access around the country and could pull off a significant percentage of votes, i think there are a great many that are looking questionably at his life choices, including leaving a dead bear cub in central park. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you.
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