years? introducing the comcast business 5-year price lock guarantee. powering 5 years of savings. powering possibilities. it is good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, at least four people are dead after debby made landfall in florida. forecasters warn of historic storm surges. we'll have a live report as hundreds of thousands are without power and facing severe flooding. plus, it's decision time for vice president kamala harris, after a series of key face-to-face meetings this weekend ahead of that highly anticipated announcement tomorrow. so who will she trust as her number two to take on trump and go head to head with j.d. vance.

also, the world on a knife's edge. any minute now, president biden will convene his national security team in the situation room as fears escalate over a larger war in the middle east, and the horrific newllance vide the hyatt hotel depicting the moments to leading up to the death of devonte mitchell, the emotional words from his family could come any day now. our nbc news reporters are following the latest developments. debby made landfall as a hurricane. how is it looking where you are. the water seems to be moving very fast. >> reporter: the water levels seem to be changing quite fast. this is the second location. we were on the dock, the water was rising so high we had to evacuate ourselves because that dock ended up getting flooded. this street another example

of a place that was flooded. we have seen a lot of changes here even just in the last half hour. what you are seeing is a combination o. river along with the gulf of mexico, and that is spilling over on to these streets here. it is so important to remind people. you might be seeing we're getting a reprieve from the rain. we're no longer getting those strong wind gusts but often the most deadly aspect of a storm system, whether it's a hurricane or a tropical storm is those rising water levels, whether it's flooding or whether it is a storm surge, and we have seen that turn deadly. we have seen that turn deadly not just with this storm system but others before it, and so that is always important to remind people, but the other aspect of this, as this storm continues to make its way further north, the other aspect is that we are still watching out for not just the power outages but the threat of tornadoes, and that is something, yes, we're talking about a hurricane/tropical storm system, but there is always an increased risk of tornadoes with these types of systems, chris,

and so with those power outages, we have seen this become a problem. at this time of year, it's august. in florida, it's holt. this is not the time of year you don't want to have power, and there are thousands of people, including ourselves. we don't have power at the moment, andal become problematic when the sun returns or heats up here. in terms of the threat that continues, you know, we're seeing this water level start to recede where we are, and of course we're keeping a close eye on that. remember, debby is a slow mover, making its way north. if you are watching from savannah, georgia, or charleston, north carolina, remember, this is coming your way, at a very slow crawl. so potentially historic rainfall totals, chris. >> marissa parra, thank you for that. take care out there. sometime tomorrow we will know who vice president kamala harris has picked as her running mate. nbc's aaron gilchrist is following that for us. harris held a series of

face-to-face meetings with contenders yesterday, what do we know right now? >> we know right now, the vice president is at the white house behind me, meeting her official responsibilities. president biden has called a meeting of his national security council to talk about the events in the middle east, but up until now, the vice president for the last several days has had her head down with her team, trying to make a decision about who's going to be her running mate. a source familiar tells me yesterday at her home, the vice president met with several top contenders, arizona senator, mark kelly. pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, as well as minnesota governor, tim walz. those were face-to-face meetings that took up a good chunk of the day. separate meetings that happened over the course of the day yesterday in washington. the campaign tells us that the decision on who will be the running mate is going to come sometime in the next 24 hours quite likely. we know the campaign has scheduled an event in philadelphia tomorrow with the vice president and her running mate.

we anticipate that the decision about who she has chosen will come, obviously before that event happens sometime we think in the second half of the day. we'll likely find out through a direct message to the media, perhaps, as well as through social media, a video perhaps would be posted as has been the case in the past, particularly with democratic candidates. that's the expectation going into tomorrow. it's worth noting, we have been able to figure out what some of the potential vice presidential picks are doing today. we know tim walz is holding an event for the harris victory fund. we know governor andy beshear of kentucky is holding a similar event, and pete buttigieg, the secretary of transportation, his schedule has him in maine tomorrow and wednesday. tomorrow obviously the time we expect to see the running mate with the vice president. of course, chris, schedules can and do change. we'll be watching to see how that happens. >> we have a lot of them change.

thank you so much. nbc ease matt bradley is reporting from beirut for us. what are the major players saying about what might happen next? >> reporter: yeah, chris, that list of major players has been increasing because so many people are involved now as this threatens to expand to engulf the entire region. as far as washington is concerned, president biden is just about within the next couple of minutes, huddling with the national security team, after antony blinken told g7 leaders that the attacks from the iranians or iranian proxies, and the primary proxy is hezbollah, as you mentioned there's so many concerns about foreigners and demands from countries all over the world that their citizens leave this country. they're saying that this could

come from here in lebanon as well as some of these other proxy groups that make up this sort of axis of resistance. this so called group that is basically funded and assisted, trained by the iranians, and we have heard from the iranians themselves from teheran. the foreign minister gathered together leaders and diplomats, ambassadors from countries and said iran has a moral obligation to respond to the assassination of ismail haniyeh that the iranians blame on the israelis. no matter how you look at this, this entire region is girding for war. >> there's a new report about the u.n.'s investigation as to whether staff members took part in the october 7th attack. what do we know about that? >> reporter: this has been a major point of controversy for months now. the israelis have accused,

really, hundreds of people within the major u.n. organization that assists palestinians and not just in the gaza strip but also in the west bank. they said they were part of, many of them, terror attacks, and they pointed out 19 of them who they said had participated in the october 7th attacks. the internal united nations said they received no evidence from one of 19. ten they cleared, nine they said there was sufficient evidence to say they participated and those nine people will be fired. this is a situation, we don't know if this is closing the book on these complaints. there's a deep level of enity. we're getting a look at surveillance video from inside the hotel where d' vontaye mitchell was pinned down by

security and died. adrienne broaddus is following this story for us. take us through what this video shows. >> first, a warning, this video is challenging to watch. it shows the final moments leading to the death of d'vontaye mitchell. at one point we see mitchell in the video. that's where you see him running. we see staff kicking him and punching him in the face repeatedly with closed fists. they also used their walky talkies to hit him. at one point, he gets up and tries to run away. he falls back down. it's interesting to note this video was released on the same day the medical examiner ruled the cause of death as homicide due to asphyxia and toxic effects of cocaine and methamphetamine. meanwhile, no one has been

arrested. the employees you see in the video have been fired. you may remember, last month, a representative from the district attorney's office tells us they were waiting on the full autopsy report to determine charges. no charges have been filed. and we spoke with william sultan, who represents one of -- he's one of the attorneys representing the family. here's what he had to say. >> mr. mitchell was killed because he was beaten to death and held down minute after minute, hit in the head with a walky talky, baton, fists, knees, feet, right. i mean, this is outrageous behavior, and we haven't even had an arrest, right, i mean, again, we believe murder charges should be issued here. but we don't even have a battery charge. we don't even have disorderly conduct. we don't even have false arrest or false imprisonment. we don't have any charge.

>> he doesn't have confidence that the district attorney will file charges so he's suggesting alternative routes. what do we mean by that. so, for example, he would like to see a public inquest or a grand jury. we did reach out to the d.a., they have not responded to those claims. back to you. >> thank you for that. and coming up in 90 seconds, the big decision and what we know about vice president harris's priorities for the person who could succeed her. we've got steve kornacki at the big board breaking down the possibilities. down the possibilities. off any sub, anye whooo! 20% off subs is fun to say 20% off subs are fun to eat you'll love 20% off subs the point is, any sub any size. 20% off at subway

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visit coventrydirect.com. a political call to a momentous decision of vice president harris's career, picking her own number two. "the new york times" reports that the final stage of this vetting process has reached the ugly phase as donors, interest groups and political rivals from the party's moderate and progressive wings lobbied for their preferred candidates and passed around memos debating the contenders political weaknesses with key demographics. while the stakes of this vetting process are obviously very high, one thing stays consistent for any job. no one knows the role better than the person currently doing it. so after a weekend of face-to-face meetings with at least three top contenders, mark

kelly, josh shapiro and tim walz, what is harris weighing now. steve kornacki is at the big board for us. there's been a lot of talk about potentially picking a running mate for a home state advantage. what do we know? can you back that up? >> yeah, i mean, specifically you're talking about shapiro, pennsylvania, kelly, arizona, two states decided by about, you know, a little bit more than a point in pennsylvania, less than a point in arizona, 2020, so a tiny margin. could a home state vp candidate tilt the scales potentially for the democrats? that would be the thought, politically if harris goes in that direction. recent democratic vice presidential nominees. what we're comparing is the national swing in the election they ran in. tim kaine from virginia, 2016, hillary clinton's running mate, nationally in 2016, the popular vote moved two points in the republican direction, two points more republican in 2016. in virginia, the popular vote

relative to the previous election moved one point more democratic, so virginia kind of bucking that national trend a little bit. it's not huge but it's a dirns, and -- difference, and that is the vice presidential candidate's home state. that is not conclusive. state specific factors, demographic changes. the basic idea is replicated several times where the national trend is more democratic. it's more democratic, many pronounced for the democrats in the state of the vice presidential pick. it does suggest some kind of a home state effect, and again, if you're talking about potentially a state that's going to be decided by a point or so, the possibility that there's a small home state effect could loom large, pennsylvania in familiar. 19 electoral college votes, all of the core battleground states, none has more than pennsylvania. on the question of tim walz from minnesota, let's call this one up. minnesota not quite a battle ground state. if it becomes one, it means the

democrats have problems in a whole bunch of other places. the theory of putting waltz on the ticket isn't so much medicine, it's hey, did walz demonstrate in his political career the ability to reach a type of votthe region, upper midwest, big ten states, whatever you want to call them, getting away from democrats, blue collar white voters, poll a county in minnesota, this is walz's 2022 governor race, stearns, blue collar, white population. republican beat walz by 23 points in 2022, the exact same margin trump carried over biden. go back in time, when barack obama got reelected in 2012, he lost this county by 12 points. this was the kind of place in the obama era and before, the

democrats weren't winning but they could be competitive in, and the floor fell out for them. the 2016 election continued there. there's no evidence that walz did anything different than hillary clinton in 2016, that's the story around minnesota. the idea that walz connects with voters, democrats have been losing in the midwest. the coalition looks very similar, not different. >> it's not going to surprise you that we got two pages of notes from yamiche alcindor and peter alexander saying one of the things she's looking at is somebody who would appeal specifically to older white voters, and specifically to white men who don't like trump but may question whether they want to vote for a black and south asian woman. pretty much what you're talking about. steve. >> just regionally, suburban women, that's the other piece of this. again, the democrats in minnesota, there's eight counties in minnesota. only eight in the state where

democrats are doing better than they were with 2012, but eight of the most highly populated in the state. hennepin county, biggest one, minneapolis, heart of the twin cities, walz is running. won by 44 points here. biden won by 43. it's been democratic for a while. look at the margin, 27 for obama. it exploded in the democrats' favor in the trump era, and walz has maintained that. again, it's not as in walz is doing different in the core democratic areas or trump surge areas in minnesota than biden did or really than hillary clinton did in a lot of cases. >> steve, thank you so much. i always throw things at him, he always has the answer. i want to bring in the former secretary of house asking urban development, 2020 candidate julien candidate who was vetted as a potential running mate for hillary clinton in 2016. we have this breaking news. this is the new information that

we are getting from reporting over the last hours, but deeply over the last two weeks, putting it together. a couple of things that kamala harris is looking for. not a surprise, i don't think, chemistry, and governing partner. you often hear people who are the nominee talk about they take seriously the idea that it has to be somebody who can take over if need be, as president. but this gets interesting. someone who will not undermine her. i want to get your reaction to that. two sources familiar with harris's thinking said she needs and wants someone who will be comfortable following the lead of a woman and particularly a black and indian woman, and i wonder what you make of that. >> who knows it better than she does. she has served in this role as vice president, partner to president biden and very effective together.

she's been through the selection process herself a few years ago. she's in a great position to make these kinds of determinations. i think it's going to be about chemistry, about selecting somebody who would be a good governing partner, whose experience complements hers, and it's going to be about the fact that she does represent a new type of leadership if she becomes president. is that person going to be able to work with that? i think that, you know, they're focused on the right factors there in terms of the chemistry and governing. there's also the cardinal rule of course of this person has to do no harm. we have seen that rule violated sometimes in the past, mostly on the republican side, with folks like sarah palin and j.d. vance, and probably an argument for dan quayle, so i think above everything else, she's going to make sure that this is someone who's not going to create political problems in the next three months and beyond that.

>> no political problems, and during the campaign, or should they get elected. let me ask you about your own experience. i think it's fascinating. you have called this a grind of a process. and i've read what we know about this, how deep the vetting is, how many pages they need to fill out of information. what was it like for you. help people to understand that while they may be coming out publicly, and being positive, and you know, talking about why they think kamala harris would be a great president, what's going on behind the scenes. >> this is a, you know, very detailed, very precise, even intrusive process, chris. in 2016 when i went through the vp vetting process with about nine or ten other folks, we got a questionnaire at the beginning of it, had more than 150 questions. they want to know about your political history, financial, employment, legal, personal

family history, then you sit down with a vetting team that asks you detailed questions about that. one of the most interesting questions i remember is they said -- they pointed to my phone and said would you have any issue if we took your phone and looked through it, and it seemed like it was a question meant to put me on the spot. that's the kind of thing. it's very very thorough, and it's meant to make sure that the person who is selected, again, is not going to do any harm to the ticket, and then also you go through an interview, of course, with the nominee, herself or himself, to get a sense of that chemistry. sometimes there's already a relationship there. sometimes there's not. what makes the process in 2024 different is this is a compressed time frame, two and a half or three weeks. that means they're really going to have to thread a needle here. former attorney eric holder leading the process with a great team. they are very experienced and so

i have confidence they're going to make a very sound decision. >> we've only got 30 seconds left but we keep building this up, and look, it's always a horse race, and there's a natural inclination to be interested in that. do you think in this case it's maybe more important than we have seen in the past, in part because of the compressed time, and also because there may be people out there looking for a different type of ticket balance, and given that, frankly, a black multiracial woman is at the top of the ticket. >> yeah, that's unique. this is the first time, so of course it's different from other times. we had a preview of part of this, and we had our first female nominee with secretary clinton, but this, of course, is special. it's different. it's uniquement she's a dynamic type of leader. here's the good news. she has energized the democratic base, without alienating moderates. that gives her a ton of latitude

to make the choice, whether they're a progressive or moderate that's going to be a good governing partner, super confident, not going to cause political problems and help her cross the finish line in november, and do a very effective jump once elected. >> mr. secretary, always good to have you on the program. former secretary, julian castro who probably feels good about not being a part of that prose. it's good to see you. thank you. right after the break, tropical storm debby battering the southeast, expected to dump at least 2 feet of water in some places. the mayor of savannah, georgia, will join us next with why this storm is different. m is differet >> in our play book we know how to deal with storm surge. we know what that looks like. we know what high winds look like. we really don't know what a once in a millennia storm looks like. .

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right now a once in a millennia weather event is churning towards georgia. the tropical storm has already killed at least four people and inundated florida, bringing roads and highways to a standstill, with cars submerged into water up to their windshields. we have seen high and powerful tides along the southern

coastline. the coast guarding posted this video of a rescue in the gulf when two people were pulled to safety after they lost control of their boat. joining me now is the mayor of savannah, georgia, van johnson. mr. mayor, it is good to see you. what are you hearing from forecasters there, and what are you prepared for? >> first of all, thank you so much for the opportunity and thinking about us. savannah is a beautiful city, wonderful city, this is real. this is serious. we have survived storms in the past. we have been glanced by storms. but this is different. we are preparing for a once in 100 year flood events. this is a once in 1,000 years flood events. we're beautiful, tropical land, low lying land. we're estimating anywhere from 10 inches to 30 inches in a little over two days. we just had significant rain, 6 inches over the last couple of weeks. you know, it kind of beat us up a little bit. we were really concerned about

what's coming. >> i mean, to use a very nonmeteorological term, listening to you, it sounds scary. is it? and should folks who live there be afraid? >> it is scary, i have been in savannah since i attended savannah state college, now university, and i have not seen anything projected like this in our days. we are low lying land. we have been here since 1733. the reality is if we get this amount of rain that is forecasted, it would totally overwhelm all of our systems and literally create islands within the city. >> whenever we do these stories, and it seems like we do a lot of them, whether it's about this kind of storm, whether it's about fires, whether it's about drought, we keep hearing about climate change, we keep hearing about preparations, conversations that are being had between mayors and governors about what the future looks like. let me ask you a very straightforward question.

recent data shows, and i will affirm for anyone who has never been there, savannah is gorgeous, very welcoming city, wonderful place to visit, and so surprise, tourism has exploded since the pandemic. visitors spending on food and retail, up 8% from 2022 and '23. as a state, all time high in tourism. 170 million visitors, brought in $40 million last year. i don't think that can be right. how much is it in savannah, just the number alone the numbers are huge, and in any case, how much tourism is there now in august, and are you concerned long term about places like savannah, places like charleston, place in your region when you have these kinds of storms? >> well, we are, and we're always concerned first for our residents and those who live here every day, but we have a lot of guests. we have a lot of guests here now. savannah is popular all year

round. so we have residents here. just enjoying savannah in a different way in their hotel rooms. relatively safe, away from harm and danger. fortunately for us, savannah had a very multifaceted which includes the largest employer in georgia, gulf stream, we also have a brand new hyundai plant, the largest in georgia coming ongoing line. we have a military community or a college community. we have a lot of income generators here. as always, you know, we like people to come and visit us and see us. i suspect that we enjoy being good guests, the best food anywhere in the world is right here in savannah, and the best people are here in savannah. opportunities to be able to show that, obviously diminished by the strength of mother nature as it affects us in this way. >> so what about the here and

now, then? and you say that people can stay away from harm and danger, hotel rooms or in their homes. are you prepared for the possibility of evacuations? what is your emergency plan for the coming base, mr. mayor? >> well, fortunately for us, as you know, hurricane season is from june 1st to december 1st. so we're always in a perpetual state of readiness. chatham emergency management, which is our county partner in managing this. this is what we think about all day long. we felt that it was not best to evacuate because in the nature of the storm and where people evacuate to, we have to make sure that those of us among us don't have the opportunity to evacuate are safe, our homeless population, safe, those medically fragile as well. we thought it was best to kind of shelter in place. our goal, of course, is to make sure that the storm drains have cleared, pump systems are working. that our first responders are ready, and we keep people off of the streets until this passes. we expect tropical storm force

winds at about 11:00 tonight. so we have enacted a curfew from 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. tomorrow we will assess what's going on. we're ready with georgia power to make sure we can get power up if we need to be able to do that. all hands on deck. we want to keep people safe first and of course property and get our city back to where it is. this is a multi-day event, and so we treat it as that. we look, we assess, we triage. we treat. >> savannah, georgia, mayor, van johnson, we wish you all luck. may mother nature be kind to you. and thank you so much for taking the time. i know you've got a lot going on, we appreciate you talking to us. >> thank you for keeping us in your thoughts and prayers. coming up, who is kamala harris, that isn't just a question for voters, it's one

donald trump has been trying to answer. can he figure out a way to define her to set up an effect i have -- effective line of attack before voting starts? we'll be right back. 'll be righ.

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some more new and yet somehow familiar attacks from donald trump against kamala harris today. this time blaming her for the stock market selloff, calling it the kamala crash and calling her

stupid. and a radical left lunatic. it's a page from the classic trump playbook, blaming opponents and name calling but not what the campaign said back in mid-july that they had been preparing to go against her for weeks if she replaced biden. and now trump is all but admitting their strategy is still a work in progress. >> four months ago she was considered grossly incompetent by the fake news. now they're saying, oh, isn't she wonderful. isn't she wonderful. no, she's not wonderful. so we have to work hard to define her. i don't want to even define her. she'll destroy our country. >> joining us now, may ya rupert, former warren for president senior adviser and host of the podcast "when we win", and brendan buck, former press secretary to vice presidential nominee, paul ryan, former press secretary to former house speaker john boehner and msnbc political analyst.

brendan, did these latest attacks speak to the fact that trump may not have anything new in his playbook, he's just riffing? is there a plan that you see? >> there should be a plan. the thing about this is this shouldn't be that hard. there are plenty of what should be effective messages against kamala harris, and we have talked a great deal about how the campaign this time around is much more professionalized than the past trump campaigns. but none of that matters if your candidate can't stick to a script or if your candidate wants to go with their gut more than what the data shows. this should be simple kamala harris is too liberal for this country, wants to take us too far to the left, here are the reasons why. he thinks he can convince people she's not black enough or she's stupid. i'm sure that's not what his campaign wants to do, but he can't help himself. and he's blowing the most important part of the campaign for him. this is the moment people are

going to define herment people know who kamala harris is, but they don't have very strong views about her. this was the time he needed to define her, and he's blowing it, and her favorite ratings are rising. i don't think he can fix this at this point. >> the "wall street journal" reports that trump's team actually did have a harris strategy. then he went off script about her race. it says that that attack risks harming his larger campaign strategy to define her. but congressman byron donald is down playing the criticism. here's what he said. >> this is a phony controversy, i don't care, most people don't. when kamala harris went into the united states senate, she was the first indian american united states senator. it was actually played up a lot when she came into the senate. now she's running nationally. obviously the campaign has shifted. >> is trump a phony controversy, could this be another

controversy that has no apparent impact on trump or what do you make of what the campaign said they had in place, which was a strategy? >> it's clear they did not have a strategy. they don't have an effective one. and do not have a response to kamala harris, and i don't think that it is a phony controversy at all that people are reacting very negatively to what the former president said to his confusion over the conception of a biracial identity. it's an incredibly racist attack, and i don't think it's a small issue if someone who's running for president is being openly and blatant racist, and i think it should be called out. it's being called out, and trying to down play it as something that's being fabricated, while at the same time, when donald has talked about this, at the same time that he's calling it a controversy he's repeating the ridiculous lie that she can only

be one piece of her identity at any given time. this isn't a particularly complicated issue. she is biracial. she's a black woman and an indian woman. the ap reported she was the first indian-american senator, which was true, and there's no controversy here. them using that language and repeating it over and over again is showing they're clearly doubling down on it. it's not a phony controversy, and people have a right to hold him accountable for it. >> i want to talk about another piece of the messaging, that is the trump campaign continuing to have to fend off with an appearance by, apparently, a cat. cat ladies, well, honestly, is that timed or is that timed? because we were going to talk -- we were going to talk about the j.d. vance childless cat ladies,

mark, which is why come to his defense. let me play that. >> the reality is he made a quip in service of making a point that he wanted to make that was substantiative, and it had actual meaning. and i just wish sometimes that people would talk about those things and that we would spend a lot less time just sort of going through this three word phrase or that three-word phrase because what he was saying is it can be hard to be a parent in this country, and sometimes our policies are designed in a way that can make it even harder. >> i'm not going to ask the cat for an opinion on that. i'm going to go over to you, brendan. look, i mean, his wife, accomplished woman goes on tv to try to defend what he said. i don't know if it's really hard to be a parent is what most people heard or what donald trump said, which is that, you know, families are good things.

is this helping? >> let me say this. i have a love of sympathy for the candidates being dragged into this stuff, and it's hard to watch when you get attacked. this was not just a oneoff statement that he made. he has made this a bit of his routine. look, i think that j.d. vance is struggling to communicate because a lot of this is new to him. in that he seems to have adopted a world view in recent years, and gone all in on it, and hasn't figured out the right way to talk about this. there's a proud tradition of being pro family, but you don't do it by attacking individuals and attacking other people. he doesn't seem to get that. i don't know if it's a put on or what it is, it just shows you the lack of maturity he's demonstrating, and she's doing a better job of turning the tables or changing the subjects. they're going to poke at him and call him names.

>> i have more i wish i could ask you, we have breaking news. thanks to all three of you. this breaking news is from the u.s. supreme court, refusing missouri's long shot bid to delay donald trump's sentencing in the new york hush money case. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin joins me now. what should we make of this? >> it's not just a rejection of the attempt to delay the sentencing, missouri wanted to intervene in the case to make the gag order go away as well. the argument that the attorney general of missouri is making that his states residents weren't able to be well informed or cast an informed ballot. you see seven justices saying no go. your original suit by the state of missouri against new york isn't even going to pass go but justices thomas and alito would have let andrew bailey, the attorney general of missouri,

file the complaint. that in and of itself is particularly stunning, given the questions about their neutrality on these and other cases, chris. >> also where the gag order stands right now, right, which is extremely limited. >> that's right. >> we don't have any citizens of that state who donald trump can't make applying arguments to. >> that's correct. >> he can criticize people. >> he's free to talk about his political opponents, current and past, both president biden and vice president harris at all times. chris. >> lisa rubin, thank you for bringing us this breaking news. still ahead, simone biles closing out her olympic redemption tour by leaving it all out there on the floor. we'll get reaction from another olympic great, four time medalist, dominique dawes. domin. for ourselves, our kids, and our grandkids. gone. just like that. i can't believe this is the world we live in,

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the paris olympics today. spoiler alert. we're about to reveal what happened during his last two events. she had a rare fall during her beam routine this morning. she did not make it to the podium there. she wouldn't go long without winning another medal. she took silver in the floor routine after penalties for taking a couple of steps out of bounds. she leaves paris with an impressive haul, four medals, three golds, one silver. joining me now, another legend of the sport, four-time olympic medalist, dominique dawes, who is famously a member of the magnificent seven who won gold during the atlanta olympics. i was there. i saw you. it still thrills me to think about that moment. it's good to see you again. let me ask you about what we saw today, knowing everything that simone biles went through in the tokyo games. i wonder what was going through her mind as we saw her win medal after medal after medal.

>> i'm so proud of her. she competed in the third olympic games. i'm the last female gymnast to do that 24 years ago in my final games in sydney, australia. you have to realize, simone is human. she's going to make mistakes, but she kept her head up high and ended her career with a silver medal on the floor. people need to think about the fact that she's doing such difficult moves and she just had too much power, and that's what she overrotated it. >> has she re-made the sport, set the bar in just a completely different place? >> yes. i'm very grateful that i retired from the sport of gymnastics. i was blessed to be a part of the gold medal team then. the skills we were doing then, if we were doing them today, she's bringing us so far for today's generation. she's winning points ahead of the majority of her competitors

in the all around competition, and did a great job to leading the team to a gold as well. >> you appeared in the netflix documentary, simone biles rising, touching out in the '80s and '90s, this warped sense of normal for a gymnast to endure, their physical well being, their mental, emotional well being, talk to me about that. do you think the sport has changed for the better? >> well, i was proud to lend my voice in that documentary. simone wanted me to be a part of it, and that's the reason why i started the academies. i have three dominique dawes gymnastics and ninja academies. there's a need for positive change in the sport. it needs to be a little bit more focused on the well being of the child outside of the gymnastics arenas and not just focused on medals and money. there are changes that need to occur on the leadership level but i think things have changed a bit, and having more voices such as myself, simone biles,

and today's gymnasts will help that change become a reality. >> i'm so curious because for so long, it seemed like, especially because eastern europeans for a long time dominated the sport that it was a sport for young white women, now you have not just you, but then you have simone, a black female gymnast, the greatest of all time, eleven olympic medals, what do you see for the next generation? >> i love the fact that back in 1992, at the baltimore arena, i competed in the olympic trials and became the first african-american gymnast to qualify at the olympic trials, and now seeing the likes of gabby douglas, jordan chiles, simone biles, and jones, unfortunately got injured it's going to diversify the sport. every young girl and boy is going to see the sport of

gymnastics as an outlet and an opportunity to excel. >> i'm glad you brought up gabby, she's a fantastic person and incredible athlete. before we go, i have to ask you about the u.s. pommel horse specialist, who won two bronze medals, the internet has fallen in love with him. women's gymnastics has been more popular in the u.s. than men's. do you think this could help change it? >> i think it could help with the popularity of men's gymnastics. i was speaking with a colleague. for him to win and earn a medal on the pommel horse will enlighten people and open their eyes to the sport of men's gymnastics. i offer a ninja academy. hope they'll they'll consider that as well. >> it's great to see you. you look fantastic. so you're still obviously

active. you're running around doing ninja stuff? >> yes, i'm running multiple gymnastics academies in the area, and recently became a partner o. atlanta falcons so i look forward to supporting them, and making a positive impact in that market. >> good for you. dominique dawes, great to see you. thank you so much for coming on the show. >> thank you for having me on. >> that's going to do it for us this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday 1:00 to 2:00. our coverage continues with anna cabrera in for katy tur next. cabrera in for katy tur next these folks are getting it done at home with me, cologuard. cologuard is a one-of-a-kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45+ at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard.

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