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right now on "ana cabrera reports," donald trump set to emerge from his florida estate, his first appearance since his racist attacks on vp kamala harris and his campaign's new swipes at her running mate. plus, the trump campaign's efforts to tear down tim walz attacking his 24-year military service. and his response to 2020 protests. will any of it stick? also ahead, some breaking news, tropical storm debby making a second landfall unleashing flooding and tornados. we have the latest on the storm's path. and taylor swift canceling concerts after a foiled terror plot. new details about the suspects under arrest in austria.
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good morning, it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. donald trump will appear publicly for the first time in a week. he will hold a press conference. on the other side of the aisle, vp kamala harris and her running mate will court union voters in michigan as she and walz hit critical swing states attracting really big crowds like this of enthusiastic voters. nbc news correspondent monica alba following the harris campaign. nbc's dasha burns is covering the trump campaign. also with us, zerlina maxwell host of mornings with zerlina and jennifer horn, former rnc executive committee member and former new hampshire republican party chair. okay, dasha, trump has been physically absent from the campaign trail for, as we mentioned over a week as his campaign is going on the attack,
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specifically against the newest entry, tim walz. what's going on? >> his running mate j.d. vance has been out on the campaign trail. he was asked about the former president's absence from the trail, and he claimed that they were doing a sort of divide and conquer strategy. so today we're not going to see senator vance out on the trail. but as you mentioned at the top there, we will see former president trump at a press conference this afternoon and it's interesting to watch as we've had that split screen of harris and walz out there and vance out there, just the kind of difference in tone where harris and walz are sort of going the cheerful, happy warrior route. vance going another direction. he was asked about that. take a listen to what he said. >> you've been criticized for being a little too serious, a little angry sometimes. what makes you smile? what makes you happy? >> well, i smile at a lot of things, including bogus questions from the media, man. sometimes you got to take the good with the bad, and right now i am angry about what kamala harris has done to this country.
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>> and ana, you've sort of watched this play out in realtime as both vance and trump and the campaign overall are trying different strategies, different attacks on harris and walz to see what sticks because this dynamic has changed, and it's changed in favor of the democrats for now and posing new challenges for the trump campaign. >> we've been following along with j.d. vance solo out there with this sort of shadow strategy going where kamala harris and tim walz are traveling, and so what do we know about why trump decided he needed to hold this event today at mar-a-lago? is there a sense that he is frustrated with his own campaign? >> it's a great question. i mean, those of us who have been watching him, who are covering him, we were a little bit perplexed about his lack of events this week, to be honest, and "the washington post" is now reporting that he has grown increasingly frustrated seeing these poll numbers, seeing the sort of harris surge, and he's been complaining, asking friends about how his campaign is performing according to "the
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washington post" reporting. this might be his attempt to get back into the headlines, to grab the spotlight again, and we'll see if he makes any news this afternoon, ana. >> i remember as president oftentimes we were told that he thinks he's his own best messenger. perhaps this is his opportunity to steal back some of the spotlight and change some of the headlines. the harris campaign has been defending attacks against walz, specifically his military record, but they're really trying to keep the focus on the enthusiasm around the ticket, this joyful warrior messaging. how is that working? >> yeah, they're trying to really carry some of that energy that we saw in philadelphia at the beginning of the week when they were first on stage together into these other key battleground states, and they're hoping that some of that enthusiasm will continue, but they're touting the fact that there are some large crowds turning out, person compared to the kind of folks we would see at joe biden events earlier in the cycle. this is really turning the page and a completely different
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environment for democrats. they're trying to seize on that a little bit. you saw even the vice president pulling her plane up to that airport hangar last night and having this moment, visually and optically that they're trying to lean into that compliments that joyful warrior mentality that is not just now being talked about by the campaign, but it's really being leaned into by the candidates and the nominees themselves. here's a little bit about the vice president and governor walz had to say on that yesterday. >> and understand in this fight as tim walz likes to point out, we are joyful warriors. joyful warriors. >> we're asking a fair shot. we're asking for health care and child care. we're asking for an education. we're asking for safety in our streets. that's what we're asking for. [ cheers and applause ] >> so that's the contrast that they're going to be highlighting as they do continue in michigan
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today, then they're going to be heading out west to arizona and nevada for a multiday swing where they're going to be targeting latino voters in particular. remember, it was governor walz who first populated this idea that the republicans, that donald trump and j.d. vance were weird. they're trying to basically say we're the happy, joyful people, they're the weird and extreme ones. that is sort of the dichotomy they're trying to seize on. >> the contrast in imaging is striking when you look at these pictures of these huge rallies and lots of smiles and upbeat attitudes, and then you have j.d. vance by himself out there hitting the campaign trail with just talking to reporters as opposed to holding big rally events. thank you, monica alba, dasha burns for bringing us the latest from the trail. jennifer, let's talk about the increase in attacks on walz. is the strategy to hit him with all they've got while voters are still getting to know him? and how effective could it be? >> well, that's clearly the strategy, but i think in this
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particular case it's not going to be very effective, and for a few reasons. i think that some of the attacks are shallow and easily proven to be misleading or false entirely, but more importantly than that is the energy that walz has brought to this campaign is unbelievable, and it's something that so far j.d. vance and donald trump have not been able to match. i think that that is going to grow as they head into the convention. that's something that's going to be very difficult at this point in the campaign to try to stop with these, you know, really ugly and in most cases dishonest attacks. >> zerlina, republicans are hitting walz in part for his response to protests in minnesota following george floyd's death. there's some new audio that surfaced of praise from trump to governor walz back in june of 2020, so right after those protests really broke out, the
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riots had started. take a listen to this. >> i know governor walz is on the phone, and we spoke, and i fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days. two days, three days later, i spoke to the governor. the governor is, i think, on the call and he's an excellent guy. and all of a sudden -- and i said, you got to use the national guard in big numbers. they didn't at first. >> does that negate the trump campaign's entire line of attack? >> yes, because you have a tape of donald trump saying literally the opposite thing, and to jennifer's point, i think when your attacks can be easily disproven, they're very weak, and i think that what we're seeing right now is a contrast, right? a split screen of a campaign where donald trump needs to have a press conference at his own resort in order to capture media attention, and the democrats really organically feeling
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excited and enthusiastic about voting and participating in this election, and the most important thing, it's not just that the rallies are big and that everybody is joyful and happy, but the important thing for the campaign is to translate that enthusiasm into early voting. take your base, take all the names of all those thousands of people that are showing up at your rallies and make sure that they're early voting so that the home stretch of the campaign, you're focusing on those more sporadic harder to get voters that aren't in your base, and i think that these rallies are amazing to see. it's history in realtime. it's important to translate that into winning on the ground. >> jennifer, i want to share something that happened yesterday during the rally for the harris/walz campaign. watch this. >> donald trump was just found guilty of fraud, 34 counts to be exact.
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>> hold on, hold on. hold on. you know what? here. hold on. here's the thing, the courts are going to handle that, we're going to beat him in november. we're going to beat him in november. >> so she tamped down the lock him up chants. what do you read from that moment? >> i think that they are just pitch perfect on their messaging and their presentation. the american people are exhausted by the ugliness, the dishonesty, the attacks, the misogyny, the racism that has been coming out of donald trump's mouth and his campaign and his administration for, you know, eight years now. i think that the message on that and what we see tim walz and kamala harris doing to try to keep their activists focused on what matters and issues that count, and trying to keep the
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demeanor of the campaign as positive and as upbeat as possible is exactly what the american people are looking for. >> there was another moment, zerlina, where vp harris was interrupted last night in michigan by about a half dozen pro-palestinian protesters. take a listen to how she responded to that. >> it's all good. it's all good. >> i'm here because we believe in democracy, everyone's voice matters, but i am speaking now. i am speaking now. >> so this was an issue we know that followed president biden when he was still the democratic nominee. what's your reaction to how she handled those protesters? >> i like the way that she handled these protesters. it's no surprise that you have
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protesters in michigan talking about this very, very important issue, and i think that we all believe in democracy, and so people are going to raise their voices and talk about the issues they care most about, but i do think that it is correct in a moment like that when you're in the middle of a speech to sort of quiet that down so that you can focus on the content of the speech and, also, to point out the contrast as she did later on in the rally, between what donald trump will do on the issue that those activists care so much about and what she will do on that issue. and she's been a little bit different than the president on the issue of gaza calling for a cease fire on the edmund pettus bridge, really, really symbolic there in selma, so i think that if the activists want her to hear their message, they should listen to what she says about this issue. she obviously had strong remarks after meeting with bibi netanyahu, and i think there should be a two-way dialogue between the campaign and the
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activists who care most about this issue. >> and she did meet recently with the people who were involved in the uncommitted moment -- movement i should say there, organizers. zerlina maxwell and jennifer horn, thank you both. still ahead, we will talk to the campaign operatives in three battleground states. what they think it will take to pull out a victory in november. plus, breaking news, debby roaring ashore for a second time in the carolinas. the heavy rain and tornado threats. also ahead, explosive devices and a machete, what we're learning about a foiled terror plot targeting taylor swift concerts in austria. and later, the star liner saga takes a new twist, why two astronauts may not return to earth until next year. we're back in 90 seconds. next y. we're back in 90 seconds with chewy, it's never been easier to get their favorite toy delivered
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virginia to the carolinas. nbc's marissa parra is on the ground in wilson county, north carolina. you're in the neighborhood where that tornado hit overnight. what are you seeing there in north carolina? >> reporter: hey, ana, you might be able to see over my shoulder. this is just one of the homes that was hit by what we presume to be one of these tropical tornados that happened overnight. you can basically see that is the second floor of that home as has collapsed on top of the first floor. the reason we're here is because search and rescue was looking for a man they believed was inside, i regret to let everyone know they it not find him alive. these tornados have already proven to be deadly. it's important to remind everyone at home, we talk about how slow this tropical storm system is, moving at a crawl of anywhere between 5 to 10 miles per hour. at last check it was 7 miles per hour, but this is a reminder of just how dangerous this storm system can still be. overnight, tropical storm debby soaking the east coast as the slow-moving system makes a
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second landfall overnight in south carolina. >> this was flooded. there was about -- i mean, the pool was overflowed. >> 19 million people are under flood alerts from georgia to pennsylvania. north carolina's governor warning his state could get hit with more rain in one day than they normally see in months, urging people to stay off the roads. >> now is not the time to see if your car floats because it doesn't. >> in the central part of the state, a tornado tearing through sampson county damaging homes. >> i was very scared. >> reporter: in bullet county, georgia, a number of roads washed out after dams were overpowered by fast-moving flood waters. tourists in myrtle beach, south carolina, had their vacation plans drenched by debbie. >> coming down for 15 years, we've never experienced anything like this. >> reporter: so far the south taking the brunt of the damage bracing for more. one community in sarasota county, florida, still flooded
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days after it was hit. >> walking through your house and floorboards floating next to you is uneasy. >> reporter: rains from the tropical storm already flooding communities as far north as new york and new jersey. >> and all the water flowed into our homes over here. >> reporter: snarling air travel with serious flight delays up and down the east coast. >> we were just devastated. it was bad. >> reporter: now, since debby first made landfall, today is the day we are seeing the highest risk for tornados between north carolina and virginia, but, remember, that flood risk still remains in effect as well. we've already seen flooding. you saw those images. ana, you were talking about some of the flooding we've seen in places like braidenboro in north carolina. >> marissa parra, thanks for that reporting. as she mentioned, it's not over yet, angie lassman our meteorologist is joining us now.
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>> we're going to see more of the same, honestly, more of the rain, more of the tornadic activity potential. it is still a tropical storm. it's going to maintain this strength here for a little while longer before we start to see some general weakening. winds at 45 miles per hour. that big batch of rain has now moved inland. this is where we start to see the inland flooding risk really take shape over the next 24 hours. we've also got that tornado watch that's going to remain in effect at least through the early afternoon hours. circulation on shore to get some of these spinups. that's what we're going to watch through at least the evening hours tonight. the flood watches, they go from canada basically down to the coast of south carolina. this is something that will stay in effect here for a while as well as that rain starts to work its way a little farther to the north, and we start to at least see a couple of spots drying out for the carolinas. right now, though, here's what we're watching as far as the area for the greatest chance for some tornados, richmond, and town towards the coast. we'll watch for norfolk included
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in that as well. as we move through the day today, now through the evening hours, we're going to be focused on virginia and north carolina for the heaviest of that rain. we'll see 4 to 5 inches, isolated spots up to 10 inches. we could potentially see double-digit rainfall amounts here, and we're especially concerned about virginia, a rare elevated risk for flooding across that region here through the day today. by tomorrow, the system weakens, but we're still bringing up that rain into parts of the northeast and new england. 3 inches expected for syracuse, harrisburg, but notice by the time we get into the later parts of friday, we're starting to see that wrapping up. by saturday, most of this is out of the picture for folks there. this is the area, though that we're going to watch specifically for flash flooding. >> you will keep us posted, thank you, angie lassman. up next, the thwarted terror threat targeting taylor swift concerts in austria. plus, houston, we have a problem. after a trip to space that should have lasted about a week, why star liner's crew may not return to earth until next year.
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welcome back, we are learning much more this morning about a foiled terror plot targeting taylor swift concerts in austria. two men are under arrest. authorities say they were planning to attack major event sites in vienna, eventually focusing in on the swift concerts. now those three shows have been canceled. nbc's kelly cobiella has the latest. kelly. >> reporter: austria's interior minister said this was and is a serious situation. authorities in austria say the main suspect has fully confessed. they say he allegedly planned to attack concert goers with knives, a machete and explosives, and they say a second suspect had worked for several days with a facilities business that he planned to provide services at the concert in vienna. instead, all three concerts have
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been canceled with authorities saying they've prevented a tragedy. ♪♪ >> reporter: this morning new revelations in the investigation after an alleged terror plot against taylor swift's massive tour was foiled. the music superstar forced to cancel three shows in vienna, austria, as she wraps up her european leg of the record-breaking eras tour. authorities arresting two male suspects who were planning attacks on major events in vienna including swift's concerts. one of them a 19-year-old austrian authorities say pledged his allegiance to isis, the other 17 years old. the duo was radicalized online and had specific plans to carry out an attack, adding at least one had chemical substances but not all of the components needed to make a bomb. >> so even if it was a smaller attack, i think her name was what they were after. >> reporter: according to swift's website, fans will be provided a full refund for their tickets. but for those who traveled from
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around the world, they're on the hook for travel and other expenses. >> the women in my family have been planning this trip for over a year. >> but some fans also praising the response. >> i think they handled it really professionally and also they acted fast and obviously we all want to be safe. >> reporter: there have been fears around major concert events for years. in 2017, 22 people died after terrorists attacked an ariana grande concert in manchester, england. in the following years, swift called such attacks her biggest fear telling elle magazine she was terrified to go on tour. swift saying her team put a tremendous amount of planning, expense, and effort into keeping fans safe. while authorities believe they have minimized the threat in austria, event organizers said they had no choice but to cancel swift's shows for everyone's safety. >> we were all just really sad. i guess it'ses good in that like we're safe.
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but also really scary. >> reporter: authorities in austria say they are also interviewing questioning a 15-year-old that they say he has not been arrested and they are not looking for any more specific suspects. meantime, swift's european tour does continue here in the uk next week with five shows at wembley. officials here say they are continuing to view all possible intelligence, but there is no specific threat here. >> very scary, kelly cobiella, thanks so much. and now nbc news investigative correspondent tom winter is joining us. you've been working your sources. we're learning one of the suspects might have actually worked in that vienna stadium. how close were they to potentially carrying out this attack? >> right, a couple of things. it's our reporting that these individuals were under surveillance, that's why they were able to be on the austrian's radar. that's why they executed the search warrant that they did, something that kelly pointed out in her piece is that there were components of a bomb, and the
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explosive, according to the austrians that they intended to use was tatp. it's been used in london, brusselss and france. one of the things that is an advantage for terrorists is they have the ability to make it at home using store bought materials. the downside of that particular explosive in creating it at home, is it is highly volatile. apparently they weren't able to get there. what they also found in the home were knives, and the issue that we are being told for the austrians here was they could have continued to monitor these individuals, but they didn't know for sure, and you can never know for sure until you start making arrests and continue to wrap up a network, how many other people might have been involved, and would these individuals have just said we don't have the bombs, but we have the knives, and we can go and attack these concert goers. 65,000 people trying it get into that stadium. 15 to 20,000 others expected just to visit. these taylor swift concerts are
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incredible. they bring so many people to them just to be a part of the whole experience, coupled with the fact that this individual who was arrested in vienna as you just referenced may have worked for a company that worked at that stadium. so now you have maybe somebody on the inside, somebody who can give somebody a heads-up. this is where security's tight, this is where things are looser. here's where crowds are packed. all those are the types of concerns that law enforcement there would have had and obviously that appears to have played into the thinking of the artist and the people that were organizing this. >> and of course, that was specific to the vienna shows as far as we know this threat, but the a.p.'s reporting her shows, taylor swift's tour will continue in london right now, that seems like it will go on. nothing happens in a vacuum, of course. even if this is a threat contained to vienna right now, there is still communication happening, right, between international intel sources. what are you learning from u.s. intelligence? >> right, so what i think occurred here based upon our reporting is that it was actually the u.s. intelligence community that kind of picked off this threat and gave the
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austrians a general sense of who they might be looking for. the austrians today acknowledge that it was the foreign intelligence organization that provided them with a heads-up about this 19-year-old, the one who they were particularly concerned about. so this is a post 9/11 thing, as we saw what happened in russia with the hall attack when the u.s. advised russia that they were going to have a problem there, potential issue in the moscow area with large gatherings, the u.s. right now appears to possess the ability to have a pretty good sense of maybe what is going on with these terrorist groups, how that all plays out and the machinations of that is something that we'll continue to report on and some of which is obviously being closely guarded. there is definitely much more of an information sharing that occurs between the u.s. and their european counterparts and hopefully vice versa. that's the goal of all of this so that the information isn't siloed in a particular government when it can be put, as it appears to be in this case, to good use in stopping an
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attack. >> and very young suspects here in this case, tom winter, thanks for bringing us all of that. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," what will it take to win the crucial battleground states? we'll get the state of play from top operatives as voters sound off on the race. >> yeah, women are doing everything now, women lawyers, women doctors, women dentists, women police, women mayors. time for a woman president. a wt
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as vice president and democratic nominee kamala harris hits the road with her running mate on their week-long swing state push, her rejuvenated party is no longer bracing for division and doubts at the convention in chicago. with 11 days to go before the dnc, the atmosphere has gone from awake to mardi gras. that's how one consultant on the ground describes the vibe shift ushered by this new 2024 ticket, but the key question, can the campaign translate that excitement among the base into votes, especially in battleground states? let's discuss with a couple of veteran swing state democrats, former pennsylvania democratic party chair jim burn and north carolina democratic party chair anderson clayton. so it's good to have you both here. anderson, operatives, voters, analysts keep saying that this really reminds them of the 2008 obama feeling which happens to be the last time democrats won north carolina. is that what you're feeling there on the ground?
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>> absolutely, i think that especially from young voters right now who maybe didn't get to experience that 2008 obama era sort of political atmosphere, what we're seeing on the ground especially from young voters is the excitement around the harris/walz ticket and making sure we're reaching out to folks across every single community in our state. you know, joe biden lost north carolina in 2020 by 74,000 votes, and so we know that those margins are out there throughout every single county in north carolina. >> congresswoman madeleine dean says democrats have pennsylvania in the bag even without governor shapiro on the ticket. here's what she said at their philly rally this week. >> we're winning pennsylvania. we're going to win it huge. you know what happened, trump won pennsylvania by i think 40 some thousand votes, we're going to blow that number. we're going to go way above. >> we're going to win it big she says. do you agree? are democrats poised to hold on to pennsylvania, and do you see
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any impact there from harris not picking governor shapiro as her running mate? >> i'll start with the last part of your question and then go backwards. no, i do not see the selection of governor walz over governor shapiro adversely affect the commonwealth. i don't see that being a problem at all. josh shapiro is a rising star in our party and a rising star in the country. he has done phenomenal work. he has raised the boats on this issue in pennsylvania of electing vice president harris and governor walz because of who he is here and what he has done here, and now that he is in a national conversation and viewed as a national leader, everybody here is excited for him. it was a win-win for us for him to be considered and now to be out there supporting the ticket. so no, i don't think so. and what our congresswoman said, we just have to double down and continue to work harder. when our leaders say this is what we're going to do, we are going to get it done. it is true that we were very
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close in 2016, but we came ahead in 2020, and we won this state. and in 2016, it was the only time since 1988 that pennsylvania went red. we have studied the film. we knew what needed to be done in '16. we fix it had in '20 and we continue to build the infrastructure. our current democratic party follows the 67-county strategy. we have a great ground game. we had a meeting last night with a state committee and activist and those involved. we're going to do very well here, and mr. walz speaks pennsylvanian, he speaks rust belt. he did a bipartisan infrastructure bill that resonated. this is a phenomenal ticket. >> anderson, democrats are suddenly seeming bullish about north carolina and we know president biden lost that state by just over 1% in 2020. it was close. does the harris/walz ticket change the outlook for democrats this time, and if so, why? >> i think that we have the opportunity this year, you know, and we've seen it over the last
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two election cycles. in 2016 and 2020, the margins in north carolina got smaller for the presidential race. we saw that slide and made sure that joe biden -- or lose the state by 1%. the opportunity for us is that the margins keep getting smaller. we have an opportunity to work the ground game this year in north carolina, and we have 168 out of 170 state legislative races this year in north carolina. the opportunity to help reach in every single corner of the state, democrats, to be able to pull out that top of ticket effort too. so we're really excited about the people that we have running at every level of the ballot this year, and including winning our governor's race with josh stein at the top of the ticket. >> i want to get each of you on this, what is the biggest vulnerability or challenge in your state specifically for democrats that you don't want the harris campaign to overlook? jim, i'll start with you. >> sure, it's not a concern because it's not going to be one, and that is attention to all 67 counties.
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we were concerned in 2016 that not enough attention was being given to western pennsylvania where i live. i'm a two-minute walk from where the steelers play. erie to washington county. we fixed that in '20. i know that this ticket will pay attention to that. the coordinated campaign is working well with the state party, and we will address everything from harrisburg west. we're strong in the southeast, we're strong up in the northeast, scranton where president biden's from whose leadership made all of this possible. governor casey is up there, we have congressman brady in philly and so we're strong there, and we're going to be strong in the middle of the state and in the west. so my concern would be that, but i see that it's being addressed, so they are alleviaing the concerns i had in 2016 like they did in '20 and like they're doing again right now. >> biggest vulnerability, something that the harris campaign should not overlook? >> eastern north carolina, we cannot make sure -- or we cannot leave out the part of our state that so much has been taken from it and, you know, we have in
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north carolina the opportunity this year to help make sure that congressman don davis gets oaf the line in that congressional district, that we elect one of our youngest house members, dante pittman out of wilson county who has been recently impacted with debby coming through north carolina. so our thoughts are with everyone in wilson county, north carolina, and all of our counties in the eastern part of the state today as they deal with that. we want to make sure we're having campaign press, we're seeing the harris campaign making sure we're prioritizing the 18 majority minority counties that are rural in north carolina that we have this year, and to the former chairman's point, you know, north carolina's got 100 counties and so we need to make sure that we're operating strategically in every single one of them to pull out those votes. the 74,000 that joe biden lost by in 2020 is 42 votes per every precinct in every county in north carolina. we're making sure we're covering that with a ground game, boots on the ground, door knocking opportunities. people that have never had their
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door knocks before, right? making sure this campaign is touching people throughout all of our state. >> i'm hearing you both say the ground game and manpower is crucial to potential victory. jim burn and anderson clayton, i appreciate both of you joining us. thank you. up next on "ana cabrera reports," stuck in space? why star liner's crew may not come home from space until next year. plus, a stunning comeback on the olympic track for one u.s. runner, where the medal count stands this morning in paris. , stands this morning in paris with e*trade from morgan stanley, we're ready for whatever gets served up. dude, you gotta work on your trash talk. i'd rather work on saving for retirement. or college, since you like to get schooled. that's a pretty good burn, right? when you purchase a pair of bombas socks, tees, or underwear, you also donate one to someone facing homelessness. one purchased equals one donated. 100 million donations and counting. visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order. you'll find them in cities, towns and suburbs
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first the mission was going to be just ten days. then it could be weeks. well, now nasa says the two astronauts who went up to the international space station in june could be there until next year. that alone is shocking, right? but there's more. nasa says they might wait until february 2025 to bring boeing star liner's crew members, butch willmor and sunny williams home when they can come back on a different capsule, a spacex capsule. nbc news senior correspondent tom costello has been following this debacle, i think we can call it, tom. what is going on here? >> listen, i've been hearing talk within nasa for several weeks now. someone referenced this as gilligan's island in space. nasa points out in an emergency on the space station, williams
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and wilmore could come back in their starliner spaceship, if they had to evacuate the station. otherwise their ten-day mission could last eight months, coming home on a spacex rocketship, and that is boeing's rival. >> floating some 250 miles above the earth, astronauts butch wilmore and sunny williams thought their trip to the space station and back would last about ten days. that was two months ago. now nasa mission managers say they could stay there for another six months leaving their star liner spaceship and returning home in an elon musk spaceship draggen capsule 2025, timeframe, and butch and suni would return home on crew nine. >> lift off of "starliner" and atlas 5 -- >> reporter: boeing's troubled starline has remained docked at
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the space station. nasa and boeing engineers remain divided over whether it's safe to bring wilmore and williams back on "starliner." their concern -- helium leaks and engine thruster problems could pose serious risks. "starliner" needs those thrusters to safely return home. >> let's go forward into "starliner" -- >> reporter: last month williams and wilmore insisted their ship is safe. >> are you confident in the performance of the ship for future missions, as well? >> that's a fair question. i can tell you that that mantra you've heard, failure is not an option. that's why we are staying here now. >> reporter: nasa is weighing whether to bring "starliner" home autonomously without a crew. it's delayed the spacex crew nine liftoff to late september, returning next year, and may launch with only had two astronauts rather than four. wilmore and williams would remain on station well past thanksgiving, christmas, and new year's, then return with crew nine in february. in a statement, boeing says "we
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still believe in "starliner's" capability and flight rationale. if nasa decides to change the mission we will take the actions necessary to configure "starliner" for an uncrewed return." so propulsion experts from across nasa, all over the country, have converged on houston to work this thruster problem. top nasa managers will convene next week to decide whether to bring the astronauts home on "starliner" or spacex. but the final decision will likely be up to nasa chief bill nelson. himself a former astronaut who flew on the last mission before the "challenger" disaster. he says that still haunts him. ana? >> this is really a houston, we have a problem moment. tom costello, thanks for bringing us the latest. next, speeding on to the olympic medal stand, and more medal moments on the track. we're live in paris with the latest from the olympics. plus, you won't be able to bear some of these paw-some celebrities at the san diego zoo. the san diego zoo.
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on track for more gold. it is a big day at the olympics with multiple track and field event finals on deck. we will see noah lyles, grant holloway, and sydney mclaughlin, racing to the finish. everyone is still talking about american quincy hall's gold medal finish in the 400 meters yesterday. look at his face. he delivered so much heart there. all the way to a personal best and the first gold for team usa in this event since 2008. americans also took home silver in both the men's steeplechase, that was a shocker, and women's pole vaulting events. and a shocker in the men's four-by-100-meter heats. the powerhouse sprinting nation jamaica failing to make the final set for tomorrow. the big picture here, team usa remains on top of the medal count. and we are closing in on 100
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medals total. joining us now, nbc news chief international correspondent keir simmons in paris. so big day in track and field, keir, as we close out the games in just a few more days. who should we be looking for? >> reporter: well, sydney mclaughlin for sure, later today. she will be defending her two gold medals, you're right, in the women's hurdles. that is going to be a massive, massive race, and she is very much favorite for a gold medal. grant holloway, in the men's hurdles, he steamed through the races before this final, so again really, really exciting, really hopeful for team usa there. but you got to say it's all about noah lyles, isn't it, and that 200 meters. if he wins and you can't say it enough, he will become the first american since carl lewis in 1984 to win both the 100 and the 200. so that is going to be a massive
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moment, an historic moment if he can pull it off. and he is confident, isn't he? there's no questioning his confidence. usain bolt pulled that off and more in recent olympics. he's not here anymore. he's not competing anymore, of course. so that's the question -- will noah lyles now become our latest kind of big star sprinter with that race later today. >> all right. as always, thanks for the update from paris. now turning to another highly anticipated event of the summer -- the giant pandas at the san diego zoo are finally ready for visitors. they are the first pandas to enter the u.s. in more than two decades when they arrived back in june as a renewal of panda diplomacy between the u.s. and china. they've spent the last month acclimating to their new home. yun chuan is 5 years old, mild
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mannered, gentle, and lovable. while his 4-year-old zoo pal xin bao is more playful, little bit more mischievous. they will make their public debut today at noon pacific time. experts say that the pair like, like each other. so maybe we'll see some cubs in the future. that does it for us today. thank you so much for joining us. i'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. for now, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning, 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin with the 2024 race for the white house. in a couple of hours former president trump is set to hold a news conference at mar-a-lago here in florida. it comes as vice president harris and her running mate governor walz are making their swing state bl

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