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down in nevada and is set to speak soon in las vegas. she and her running mate tim walz crisscrossed the country this week hitting of the key battleground states. this is the typical grinding travel schedule of a competitive presidential campaign. donald trump on the other hand was mostly at home at his florida country club. when he did emerge, it was to give a rambling press conference on thursday and then for a friday campaign stop in the non-battleground state of montana. it is unclear what the trump campaign is thinking. it could be laziness or it could be a lack of stamina. after all, donald trump now is the oldest presidential nominee in u.s. history. whatever donald trump's excuses for not visiting a single battleground state this week, there is one battleground that the maga movement is unquestionably, fiercely targeting that we have to pay close attention to. that is not necessarily the

swing states, but local election offices in swing states. rolling stone magazine identified nearly 70 pro trump election conspiracists currently working as county election officials who have questioned the validity of elections or delayed to certify results in battleground states. at least 20 of them have refused or delayed certification in recent years. meanwhile in the critical state of georgia, the republican controlled state election board voted 3-2 this week to give local officials significant new powers over the certification of election results. this will give local officials more power to delay or derail postelection certification processes. this was music to donald trump seers. less of a need to campaign when you can get election deniers to work in county election offices. he had been cheering on the officials who approved the rule change in georgia, calling

them, quote, pit bulls for fighting for honesty. remember local certification of election results was once a routine process, but after losing the 2000 -- the 2020 vote, donald trump and his allies were seeking to block the process and now he seems even more focused on this by having people in local election offices who might be willing to do his dirty work. here to unpack all of this i have an amazing panel. political reporter for the atlanta journal-constitution. you all know and love her. msnbc political analyst. and of course carlos cabello, msnbc political analyst. greg, we start with you. talk to me about the significance of the new law in georgia. >> on its face it calls for a reasonable inquiry and that does not seem objectionable,

but the problem is it is not to define what that is. there are 159 counties in georgia. it could give them a pretext to not certify elections and we have seen it happen this year and last year. those were quickly overturned. in each case those decisions were overridden by the majority, but there is a worry that if there is a statewide push to call for a reasonable inquiry after the election it would be thrown to the courts before the certification deadline in georgia. >> i'm going to ask the obvious question. is the trump campaign essentially setting up plan b in terms of an apparatus that may be able to challenge the results in november if the outcome is not to their liking? >> i don't think that is plan b. i think this has been the plan since before january 6 became a distinct moment in

history. look, these are folks when trump first lost, got along with election denying. tried to intimidate poll workers and election certifiers in the battleground states. georgia in particular to get them to go along with his plan and now he is starting far earlier to make sure he can steal this election because he wants it to be the country's last election. i don't think this is plan b, i think it is plan a and i think his plan is to not even try to win. as you mentioned he has not been spending time in battleground states. he has not been spending much time campaigning at all. it could be because a very smart, capable and accomplished black and south asian woman is now on top of the ticket and it is a lot harder to beat her than it is to be somebody who he just got away with calling old, but certainly stealing this election. intimidating battleground states out of certifying legitimate

election results. this was always going to be part of the plan. he indicated that on january 6 and we should be prepared for it all along. >> congressman one of the revelations in a new piece about the panic and trouble is that at a private fundraiser recently donald trump told his daughters, we have got to stop the steal and in doing so he is reviving rhetoric about the election that led to january 6. the times is reporting his aides are trying to get him to stop using that rhetoric. this fixation on 2020, what does that tell you about what might be coming not only november 5, 2024, but possibly on november 6? >> charles, all we have to do is look back to the 2020 election and of course the 2022 election in particular. in the 2022 election republicans had a lot going for them. inflation was high, president

biden was not popular. it really did look and a lot of pollsters predicted a big red wave and then what happened? donald trump intervened in that campaign. he made sure that a lot of the candidates who ran in swing states and swing districts where people who were aligned with him and what did they talk about? they talked about the 2020 election. they lied about it. he repeated the big lie and what happened to all of those people? they all lost. look, there are moral questions and obviously we can discuss those, but politically what this means is donald trump is setting himself up for disappointment again. he is setting himself up to lose a lot of the swing voters that really get turned off by this rhetoric. that understand that the election was not stolen. that donald trump challenged it many, many times in the courts and all of those challenges were reviewed and reject it. -- and rejected. the more donald trump talks

about this, the less likely it is that he is going to win and he will bring together that anti-trump coalition that showed up in 2018, in 2020, and again in 2022. >> britney, you talked about the harris campaign and i want to ask you, how much time should that campaign spend on highlighting or addressing this plan a as you described it to voters, as opposed to simply focusing on their message and giving voters an affirmative reason to go to the polls for them? >> listen, i think that this campaign has been very quick and very smart to help voters focus on the future. we know that voters don't just want something to vote against. they want something to vote for. being future focused on the economy, reproductive justice, healthcare, education and so much more, harris and walz

have helped shift the dynamic of this election. trump's plan is project 2025 and agenda 47, which we know are nearly identical and those two things have turned out to be so unpopular that he has been lying to us about who he knows and trying to separate himself from that former project. it is clear that the focus on the future, the focus on forward momentum and progress has gotten people excited. it has broken fundraising records. it is gotten people out to these rallies and feeling us and solve hope, optimism and a desire to invest in their future through the campaign and hopefully through the entire administration. clearly the campaign would be smart to run a parallel path to make sure they have legal guards against whatever may happen next, but it is important that the front facing, public facing approach is really going to continue and support that forward-looking momentum and making sure not to detract voters and bring more depression and frustration to

the process by spending too much time on trump shenanigans. we know those will happen. they will be prepared in the background. we should keep looking ahead. >> donald trump has a curious history of picking fights with states he needs. we've seen his poll numbers go down in wisconsin after making disparaging remarks about the city of milwaukee prior to the rnc hosting his party for the convention and now he is once again picking a fight with georgia state officials, a fight he lost against brad raffensperger. georgia being a state he needs to flip back read. i need to understand what is the political calculus here if there is any and why does donald trump continue to do this in jurisdictions where he needs the actual votes in order to win? >> charles, i don't know if there is a political calculus. a week ago in atlanta donald trump went after not just brad raffensperger and also governor brian kemp and it opened these wounds that republicans thought

had been healed. even governor kemp had extended an olive branch to donald trump's campaign and to maga officials in georgia, saying we need to be on the same page. donald trump reopened that fissure and now republicans in georgia are openly saying donald trump may have lost the state. not just because of the emergence of vice president kamala harris at the top of the ticket energizing democrats, but also because of the crucial block of swing voters that is up for grabs and donald trump is going after the most popular republican in the state of georgia. that is setting off alarm bells with the gop in my state. >> continuing on that, congressman, i want to give you the last word. i'm curious about down ballot and how this is playing out among republicans looking to retain or regain house seats that they have lost or that are up for grabs. what is the feeling and sentiment among those candidates and purple districts who cannot afford to be election deniers? you have two toe the line to

get the votes and what kind of position donald trump is putting them in. >> in a lot of ways it is 2022 all over again. republicans thought they were poised to make gains. they think they can keep the house majority. a lot of republicans are confident about winning the senate, but donald trump is his own worst enemy and because he is his own worst enemy he is also the enemy of the republican party when he starts talking about these things, promoting the big lie, attacking other republicans in the middle of a campaign. look, president biden's candidacy was flawed and that was masking the fact that donald trump is one of and has been consistently one of the weakest presidential candidates of all time. if you look at his approval numbers. if you look at how people react to him. he is not a strong candidate and now that president biden is

out of the picture and the democratic base is energized, you know, this is all being unmasked again and we are seeing how flawed donald trump is and how he is a threat to the republican party because he has actually now hurting their chances of making any gains this cycle, regardless of what happens with the presidency. >> brittany, civil rights attorney and former prosecutor. talking to vaux. yesterday, the 10th anniversary of the killing of michael brown. how important is it for the harris campaign to affirmatively address issues related to police violence and criminal justice as they are on the campaign trail? i heard you talk about a lot of issues they were talking about, but i did not hear that, so when does that come into the conversation? >> i think it has already started to become part of the conversation. if you look at vice president harris's statement -- grief and

frustration that this keeps happening, but reminded us of her work on the george floyd justice in policing act that still needs to pass congress and wanted to be able to use her position, both now and hopefully in the future, to make that happen. when she was in the senate and working on that bill, she called me. she called lots of other movement organizers, act lists, researchers, to really try to get into the details of this bill and make sure it would be worth something and that would have real impact. does it have everything we want? no and there were lots of hands on that bill. before it got to a final state. and there needs to be forward movement on that. i also think she is very clear that unlike some others mainly in the gop, that black people care about a whole lot of

issues, not just the reform of the criminal and legal system. you have one candidate who is saying him having 34 felonies is going to make him very popular with black people and you have an actual black candidate to is saying yes, we care about what happens in the criminal legal system. we care about the value of black life, especially at the hands of police, but we also care about reproductive justice. we also care about the economy and we recognize that if america has a cold, we have the flu. so the campaign has done an excellent job making sure they are applying these issues to the many, diverse communities that have found themselves invested in this campaign. >> i don't know if you heard her say. she called me. you better flex it like you mean it. brittany and carlos will be sticking around. after this break we will talk about why and ex-trump attorney took a plea deal in arizona and what that could mean for the former president. we will be right back with more ayman.

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this week, some bad news for donald trump. after taking a plea deal in the georgia election interference case last year, former trump attorney jenna ellis has agreed to another plea deal, this time in the arizona fake electors case where she initially pleaded not guilty. now her charges are being dropped and in exchange she has agreed to provide truthful, honest, candid and complete testimony including all criminal activity known to her. she can also be called to testify against other members of the trump orbit such as rudy giuliani and mark meadows, which could be huge. ellis is now censured for making false statements about the election and barred from practicing law in colorado for the next three years. she admits she made false claims with the reckless state of mind and selfish motive. keep in mind, ellis is one ex- trump attorney paying the price

for her work with the former president. the people in this graphic are just some of the lawyers who faced legal consequences for doing trump's dirty work. i have often said that maga stands for my attorney got arrested and folks, there it is. with us now is my friend and superlawyer, danny cevallos, msnbc legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. i have been waiting to take off the glasses and talk to a lawyer all show. i held them on through three attorney generals because i knew you were coming. thank you for being here. look, when you look at the implications of jenna ellis essentially making a cooperation deal in arizona, what does that tell you about the future of that case and how significant is that? >> jenna ellis is a classic cooperating witness. she fits the profile. she is somebody in the periphery of the bad guy. she is not one of the main bad

guys and she is somebody with a lot to lose. prosecutors probably had her on their list of people they expected would plead guilty and cooperate and here is what you can infer. she came in and did what is called a proffer. in arizona they barely call it a day free talk. you bring your client in. they bear their soul, tell the prosecutors everything they know and the prosecutors are shopping. they are deciding is this information something we want to pay for? and i don't mean money, i mean pay with leniency and they paid her with quite a bit of leniency. they are dropping charges entirely and, charles, you know it is rare for a cooperating witness to completely escape liability. in the criminal system it is almost a standard that somebody has to take responsibility, plead guilty to something and then you hold off their sentencing until they testify at trial and they deliver the goods and make the prosecutors happy. to get all charges dropped means, i think, that whatever

she told prosecutors, they wanted to buy it. >> is a former prosecutor let me tell you that process in brooklyn was referred to as queen for a day. they tell you everything you know and maybe you make a deal. but this deal is different than the one, or the plea deal in georgia, because this one requires her to give up all information about criminal activity. we talk a lot about donald trump. if you are any of the codefendants remaining on the indictment in georgia, how much does a deal like this concern you and their attorneys? >> this is a harrowing moment in any multi-defendant case. when you have defendant said one or two of them start flipping, you get really nervous. because the government does not have an endless bag of goodies. if you are the last one in line than the deal you are going to get by offering to plead guilty is not going to be nearly as

good as the deal the first person who pleads guilty gets. it is the law of diminishing returns. so the other codefendant's in that case, it is a nerve- racking moment once at least one codefendant decided to cooperate. you know that person will get on the stand and this is the criminal defense attorney in me talking, forgive me, but cooperating witnesses are there to please prosecutors and give them a good show. they have to tell the truth and prosecutors insist they tell the truth or they don't get any benefit, but there is an incentive to make everybody else among the codefendants look really bad. >> juries love a good show. i want to switch gears for a moment and ask you about the former mayor of new york, rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani essentially was trying to get out of the significant civil penalties levied against him for the remarks and public statements he made about ruby freeman and shay moss and essentially the

bankruptcy application he made was denied and that clears the path for moss and freeman both to go after, as creditors, the portion of the judgment against rudy giuliani that they are owed. can you talk about your reaction to this? is it likely they will ever get the money recovered or at least a portion of it and does this ruling give any help? >> no, it is not likely they are going to connect on that. the vast majority of a people in america don't have that kind of liquid assets. people like elon musk, they can reach in their pocket and pay a judgment of that amount, over $100 million for a defamation case. some like rudy giuliani, given reports he is in financial states, isn't ever going to likely have that kind of liquid and less likely now that he is no longer permitted to practice

law. so as much as you would like to see defamation plaintiffs get paid, this is not a likely case. bankruptcy or not it doesn't really matter. you can't get water from a stone. that is why you know for the most part when you sue people you ordinarily go after somebody who is really, really rich and there are a dozen of those people around or you go after somebody with a large insurance policy. unfortunately for defamation, insurance companies don't write insurance policies. they write them for car accidents, not defamation. so rudy is on his own and not likely to have that kind of liquid, so unfortunately for these plaintiffs they may not collect on much of anything. >> quickly before we get out of here, it seems like donald trump strategy of delay, delay, delay has worked even as things ramp up again with the federal election case in d.c. it seems like for the immune -- the immediate future it is behind them.

do you agree with that assessment or do you think is attorney should still be turning at the computers if you will to get paperwork out to keep the delay up? >> i would super agree with that statement. donald trump did not invent delay as a criminal defense strategy. as you know yourself, delay is usually to the benefit of the criminal defendant. there are exceptions to that, certainly, but as a general rule, witnesses disappear, memory fades and in the case of donald trump unlike any defendant in american history, if you delay long enough you might be president again and you can make your federal cases go away. yes, delay has worked very much to donald trump's benefit. as to the state cases, delay is working there, too, because they have been around long enough that the supreme court issued an immunity decision which could threaten portions if not all of the new york and the georgia case. and the georgia case, they are sort of shooting themselves in the foot, figuratively.

they can't seem to get it going in georgia and georgia has a real problem getting cases to trial on time. we are talking like eight or nine months for a high-profile selection. georgia has its own problems, but new york, even though the conviction is done and in the books, could be re-examined and even that might be in jeopardy. >> msnbc legal commentator, superlawyer and my friend danny cevallos, thank you for helping me take the glasses off. coming up next, black men are making moves at the grassroots level with the help of a civil rights activist. we will talk to him about the new black men to her on the other side of the break. stay tuned.

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as study after study shows this demographic participating less and losing faith in politicians. i've been reporting on the sand why it is so important for the election season and yes the harris-walz to get has a massive opportunity to address the core issues that are important to black male voters specifically. one thing that has not been discussed is the effort made by black men to engage with their peers about civic duties and responsibilities. that is why i want to talk about that with one particular grassroots organization that has been doing the work, called black men build. they create safe spaces to talk about challenges and injustices they face every day and joining me now to talk about that is my friend, phillip agnew, codirector of black men build. a civil rights activist that is also the founder of dream defenders. thank you so much for being here. given your history in the space of organizing and movement,

what was it that drove you to start this organization? >> well i am a cofounder, so you can't give me all the credit but i work with a collective of people. we started the organization based on the realization that black men needed a political home. we need a place where we can come in, learn, talk, be educated and organize ourselves into a powerful political force. we also started the organization because we realized as the world was burning that black men, my brothers and myself needed places to come and talk. we are on a tour right now, going around the country and engaging in circles because we believe it is an important part of the political process to talk about how the issues of the day are affecting us. how we move with our partners and community. we started with a twofold purpose, to be a political home but also a place of deep personal transformation. we think that is the way to get to some sort of political power for our people and for black

men in particular. >> as you are on this tour and having conversations with black men what are some of the things in common that you are hearing as you go from city to city, with the brothers you are talking to? >> brothers are educated. you talked about it in the run- up that there are stories about black men not educated who are sitting at home and are numbed out. that is not who we are seeing every day in new orleans, raleigh, dallas, detroit, as we are in right now. black men are engaged and concerned about housing. making sure we have adequate housing and places to live. concerned about education. concerned about the health of our families. we are concerned about sisters. concerned about mortality. concerned about the quality of our governments use of bombs across the world. we are wondering about the things that affect us

domestically and internationally. we are tired of being talked to. we want to be listened to. we want platforms. we want a democratic party who says they are for us to represent the views of black people and not just a small segment. >> i've been having that conversation and beating that drum for as long as i can remember. how in this role do you serve as a conduit to the harris-walz campaign or even for example to the trump-vance campaign if they are willing to interest -- in communicating everything you said and also horizontally to the brothers you are also speaking with to inform them of the actual discussions you are having at higher levels? >> sook really how we do our work, we are not in communication with either one of the campaigns. all the work we have been doing is about ensuring brothers across the country, on this tour, they understand the

issues of the day and they understand that being organized is the best way to advance our political agenda. we are making sure that brothers know about local issues. all politics is local, so we are ensuring not just national issues at the forefront, but talking about the local sheriff races, school district races. congress races in california, pennsylvania, michigan or wisconsin. we are ensuring the brothers know in order to be a powerful political force we can't throw our votes away. we need to be sure that we know what these people stand for, we know the campaigns will do for us and what they've done for us. we have been talking and engaging with brothers for four years and if you are a johnny- come-lately we know that and we recognize that. we deserve more and it requires that we move as an organized force. >> drawing from your

experiences, there is always a competition of outcome versus impact. so for other people watching you and interested in this work, how do you inform or advise them to think about what success looks like if they are in their city, trying to generate the same type of impact you are having with respect to this tour? >> it is all about relationships. organizing is all about the depth of the trust of the relationships you have. people already know, i know when you knock on my door and i have not seen you. you have nothing that reflects your platform, that reflects my daily life. we don't resonate. for us the only thing i can say is that you've got to be able to put in the work and labor of love to build relationships and trust with us, with our brothers and sisters. this is not a transactional thing. if you're trying to do something in the next few months i don't know what you

will be able to do unless you have a compelling platform including housing, medical care. we care about what is going on in gaza and we care about chicago. so for me it is about partnering with organizations that have relationships, that of delta trust, that are going around and listening, not talking and have really developed a rapport that you can't get by throwing money in september and october. >> phillip agnew, always good. appreciate you being here. thank you as always for your work. keep it up. >> thank you. >> check on my documentary with pulitzer prize-winning and emmy award-winning correspondent trymaine lee. it is called black men in america and it is streaming now on peacock, nbc and the nbc app. coming up, time for the worst of the week and the only nominee this time is j.d. vance because he had a really

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what donald trump would do, doubling down. the bizarreness began wednesday with vance and the vice president at the same airport at the same time. vance appeared to want to confront harris and made an awkward show of it, leaving his plane and walking over to hers with a posse. vance ultimately walked back also awkwardly, telling reporters who were traveling with him that he was there to, quote, check out my future plane. now on a scale of 1 to 10 with respect to cringe, vance hit and 11 and posted a photo later that day of him walking in front of air force two. his caption, this entourage reboot is going to be awesome. where i am called -- where i am from that is called goofy. having watched entourage, someone might want to tell vance that he is more of a

johnny drama than he is a vincent chase, but things only got more awkward later that day when vance was asked of this by a reporter. take a listen. >> reporter: there is a saying in politics that what can swing undecided voters is whether you seem like somebody they would want to have a beer with. why would people in wisconsin want to have a beer with you? >> well i guess they would want to have a beer with me because i actually do like to drink beer and i probably like to drink beer a little bit too much. >> bro, that is not the answer. vance gave an even stranger answer by fumbling left and right at a truly, truly softball weston. roll them. >> reporter: you've been criticized as being too serious, angry sometimes. what makes you smile? what makes you happy? >> well, i smile at a lot of

things including bogus questions from the media, man. >> bro, who is coaching this vp wannabe, ron desantis? that is all good and fun and goofy, but this is not. this week for some reason vance thought it was a good idea to go after the military service of minnesota governor tim walz. walz honorably served 24 years in the national guard, but vance accused walz of stolen power, which is a very serious allegation, for retiring from the military before his unit was deployed to iraq. what vance did not mention of course, because of course he didn't, walz retired two months before his unit was even alerted about deployment. you don't have to be a political strategist to execute common sense. anyone would assume a candidate struggling to connect with voters is going to work overtime to appeal to voters.

that is how you win politics. that is the whole thing. aside from taking on the persona of the man he is running with, why is j.d. vance choosing to do again? mike pennel is coming back after the break to discuss that and why some of the most toxic masculinity traits are so prevalent in donald trump's republican party. republican party. ♪ (man) oh, come on. ♪ (woman) ugh. (vo) trade in any phone, in any condition. guaranteed at verizon. and get $800 off the new galaxy z fold6. only on verizon. no one should have to choose between good vision and great value,

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we are back with our worst of the week. before the break we talked about why j.d. vance has made this no contest. my panel are back to hash it out. i will start with you. this bizarre stunt that he pulls out in wisconsin, the only thing that is missing is theme music from macho man randy savage going in the ring, because it appears as though that was the basis for all of this, to look like some sort of tough guy. what are your thoughts on it in terms of outward perception, because to me like i said it just looked goofy, goofy, goofy.

>> the enthusiasm is more appropriate because that is how absolutely silly this was. look, j.d. vance is not a person of substance. he is someone who built a career off of talking about how he made it out of appalachia and tied himself to a community that he then wrote a book about in order to insult those same people. he clearly is not someone who has any principles to stand on, because he has been extremely critical of donald trump. that is of course -- on the lawn on january 6. so we are not really talking about a crackerjack team here and i am not surprised at all that he thought that this stunt would work well, just like he thought

hillbilly elegy would play well in the community he insulted in that book. i'm never surprised by him being silly. i think it is fascinating that as the plane roles and he goes to the media and says i thought you guys might be lonely because the vice president doesn't stop and talk to all. meanwhile she was talking to i believe a girl scout troop and who doesn't like girl scouts? once again the tactics, the tricks, the games are tired, they are played and i am very glad the american public is seeing it for what it is and seeing it right away. >> congressman you are in florida, so you have to take some heat here as a former member who is a republican. j.d. vance has one job. essentially don't screw up and try to appeal to as many people as you can on behalf of the president. and yet we see very much so in the fashion of your governor, ron desantis, he continues to blow it.

how could it be that he chooses, the former president chooses someone who seems to be so inept at the little things. when throwing a softball question for example about beer and drinking beer, this is what we get. >> charles, because the number one quality for donald trump is that someone be absolutely loyal to him. that is all he cares about. everything else is secondary. there were other candidates that donald trump could have chosen to be his running mate who would have benefited him politically. who would have helped him grow the tent, appeal to more people. the reason that he chose j.d. vance is because he believes they should another reason is because his sons told him that he has to choose j.d.

vance is because they believe he is someone they can control, who will be loyal to the family under all circumstances. this is what happens. now donald trump has a running mate who is not adding to the ticket, who isn't helping him gain the support from people like nikki haley voters who are still clearly skeptical of him. from hispanic voters, african american voters. he doubled down on maga because he wanted someone who would be loyal to him under any circumstance. j.d. vance said well, i don't know if we will accept the election results. i don't know what happened in 2020. >> obviously he is goofy, but for me he is thirsty. like he seems really thirsty for public approval, public attention and obviously the affections of donald trump. how would you comment on that as a descriptor for j.d.

vance or do you have another one that you would like to throw out there? >> i think that is accurate because this is what happens when we pierce the facade of toxic masculinity. when an entire party especially as of late has built their persona on, to your point earlier, to being macho, gun toting, beer guzzling. although apparently we don't know if he likes beer or not, kind of man and then along comes a different contender in tim walz, the governor of minnesota, who owns guns, likes to hunt, is athletic, coached the football team and yet is also compassionate and thoughtful, inclusive and open. he has come along and completely pierced that particular image and so now people like j.d. vance and donald trump are even more thirsty, more desperate and more ridiculous than they were before. >> brittany packnett cunningham and carlos curbelo, thank you

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