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>> after three miserable weeks for donald trump and his ld presidential campaign, the news is not getting any better. deeply rattled by his meandering and mean performances over the past month. trump is struggling to get past his anger, which is leading to his questionable decision- making, this follows this weekends report on the new york times about how trump is disoriented by the rise of president harris. harris is pulling ahead slightly, and the record- breaking fundraising that is powering harris's campaign, and also of course, the enormous crowds that harris and tim walz are attracting at rallies. today, trump appears to be implementing a two prong strategy to fight back. step one, post a series of bizarre and inaccurate social media claims and damages, including this one, which pushes the right-wing
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conspiracy theory that kamala harris's crowd sizes are actually fake. i generated illusions. he even called on harris to be disqualified because the creation of a fake image is election interference. step two, sending out the running mate that don junior, te eric, and tucker carlson convinced him to select, only to turn on the famous charm of his -- in a series of interviews this morning on sunday shows. here he is on cnn defending himself from being called weird. >> i mean, look, this is fundamentally a schoolyard bully stuff, they can accuse me of whatever they want to accuse me of brick >> schoolyard billy -- does jd vance realize that his running mate is actually donald trump, the guy who has built his entire political career on schoolyard billy and? there is also another ticking time bomb on the story that could end up causing more anger
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and heartache for trump over the next 86 days. on saturday, the trump campaign claimed that some of its internal campaign communications were actually hacked by an iranian group in june. nbc news has not independently verified that the hack took place or where it originated, but this follows an exclusive from politico who reported they were emailed the internal campaign documents from an anonymous source in july. politico has not published the emails, but reportedly, they include a 271 page research dossier on jd vance's potential vulnerabilities as a running mate. again, the internal campaign documents are not public but anyone who remembers hillary clinton's 2016 campaign will remember how damaging hacked er emails can be for a presidential campaign. trump campaign is now pleading with the media to not publicize these documents. trump spokesperson says today, " these documents were obtained illegally from foreign sources hostile to the united states,
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intended to interfere with the 2024 election and to and so chaos throughout the democratic process." in 2016, when reports are merged that lori clinton's emails may have been hacked by russia, donald trump famously had this to say: >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. >> now, if any of this is true, let's just say learning that your campaign has been hacked by iranians after you are slipping in the polls and have deep buyers remorse over your choice of vp, it's not exactly the start donald trump had been hoping for. not to mention, we haven't even gotten to what is expected to be a very electric dnc in chicago kicking off in just a few days. trump loved the idea of a foreign country meddling in an
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election back then, but now he is hoping the press doesn't let these documents see the light of day. starting us off this sunday is barbara boxer of california and former republican congressman n david jolly of florida. he is now an msnbc analyst. senator boxer, thanks for being here. on this alleged hack, obviously there is a serious national security element to it, there is also a hypocrisy element as trump has regularly attacked hillary clinton over her primary -- private emails as the press that off of it for months. how do you respond to this reversal of fortune that has struck the trump campaign? >> first, i just want to say as an american voter right now, as a citizen, very concerned about this country and what is happening with kamala harris. i want to say that i don't like foreign interference, and if it is true, it is terrible. but it's not surprising. and i was glad you gave so much time to go through the hillary clinton hack to her campaign.
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it was so presages that russia even gave a name, and at that time, trump said russia, as you pointed out, if you're listening, show us the emails. look,ho the bottom line is whatever has happened, the american people have to keep their eye on the prize. the prize is the selection. and the difference between the candidates. and we may not be able to trust some of the social media and some of the special messages that come across, you know, our twitter feed or instagram or wherever we go. tiktok. we have to look to the candidates, and i will close with this. if you look to the candidates and their words and the fact that they are unedited, i think there is only one candidate you are going to go to, and that is the candidate that is really in the mainstream, that is kamala harris, and stay away from the extreme of donald trump and his
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telling you, you know, what you can do with your own body and what books you can read. and comparing himself, for god sakes, to nelson mandela and martin luther king, he is delusional. ask david, my friend, donald trump didn't just sort of whisper or nudge to russia about the clinton emails. on the issue of a foreign country hacking an american campaign, this is what he had to say: >> but if it is russia, that's really bad for a different reason, because it shows how little respect they have for our country when they would hack into a major party and get everything. ge >> so, there's this really interesting matrix of the love affair that donald trump has with president putin and sort of this calling or reference to foreign interference as a sign of weakness, but at the same time in 2016, he was saying go ahead and do it.
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now he is begging the press, please don't put the emails out. how do you square hethis very hypocritical matrix of different signals that donald trump has sent about this sort of interference in an election? >> donald trump is not a trustworthy person and he is a danger to the united states, and that includes in his flirtations and his alliance with nation-state adversaries of the united states. if you look overnight at robert costas conversation with joe biden, joe biden laid that out this morning, saying donald trump is a danger, he is a threat to the future of united states interests. and because of that, his words s can't be trusted with they can be trusted and '16, they can't be trusted now. i will say very importantly, though, charles, if this is true, and there are statements from microsoft saying there was a fishing effort one of the senior officials of the trump ff campaign, this is a matter of national security for the united states, and i think it is appropriate for the biden administration to weigh in with a statement or with clarity of
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what our government knows about potential foreign interference in this election, for two reasons. one, to assure the american people that yes, our elections are safe and secure and we are aware of foreign meddling, but it will not have an impact or influence this election cycle, but secondly, because donald trump's words can't be trusted with because if we do not have a whole of u.s. government answer and approach to what this may or may not have been, then donald trump runs with the narrative. we know what he is wtrying to is sow the seeds of doubt in a valid election in november, so c where the allegation has been made against a nation-state like iran, i think it is important that our u.s. government settle that and make sure the american people are clear on this. i would also say, it is an indication, though, should it be true, we are kind of lobsters in a boiling pot when it comes to foreign nation- states interference in this election.st we know it is out there and we actually need to take this seriously, even though the reporting came from the trump
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campaign at all. this is a matter of national security import, but it is also a matter of ushering and clarifying for the american people that what they hear from donald trump is not always t necessarily going to be a true case. senator boxer, this is a matter of national security, so as a presidential candidate, how does the harris campaign deal with this without necessarily leaning into it too much and seeming as though they are sort of gloating and donald trump's demise in this moment? >> i don't think anybody is gloating about foreign gn interference in our elections. we know it has been going on. as sure as the sun sets every day. it is going on. and i agree with david completely, there ought to be an investigation. i think, you know, it's interesting, because when i ran for senate the last time, which was a long time ago, 2010, i was told by my people who ran all my i.t., if you don't want
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to see it on the front page, be careful. because everything you write is going to possibly be on the front page. there is all kinds of spying, domestic and foreign, so we have to be aware of it. and it is very dangerous if we don't, in our own hearts and our own minds, follow this election. and it is incumbent upon us to take that responsibility and not believe everything we see, you know, on the internet. again, to watch the speeches. and look, that's what i am doing, and i see hope, i see joy versus anger, i see we versus me, i see freedom versus disrespect. let's keep our eye on that. because no matter what we do in terms of investigating all this, and we know the mueller investigation found that it was happening, we can assume there is foreign interference. why?
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they want to try and mess up our democracy. cr which is on the line in this election. so, the burden is on us, yes, investigate this. don't gloat about it. it could happen to anybody. but pay attention to the truth, the issues, the candidates. >>th david, i have to ask you a strategic question. as we head into the dnc in chicago, give me one thing, once a synced thing that democrats can do during this convention to increase or continue the momentum they have built so far since vice president harris has entered this race. >> [ laughter ] keep doing what you're doing. look, sometimes in campaigns, lo the measure wins and losses by the day. in the 20 days since kamala harris got in, she is 20-0 and donald trump is 0-20. broadly speaking, charles, i na would say this, this race may not end up everything about ideology between now and november.id
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it is a matter of are we going in the right direction or the wrong direction, and i believe vice president harris has already won that conversation. the notion of people who may be in conflict somewhat with democratic ideology are today aligning with the coalition led by vice president harris and governor walz, their outline because of the direction. there standing up every day standing up for democracy, for our individual rights, and they see in donald trump somebody looking to demean and beat up on america every day when he wakes up. keep doing what you're doing because you're winning this race but what's really important point about ideology. thank you both for getting us started this sunday. coming up next, how the vice president can win over the progressive wing of the democratic coalition. i am going to talk about that with former chair of the progressive caucus, mark paul can, next. stay tuned, you are watching ayman on msnbc. >> [ music ] >> [ music ]
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welcome back. for all the excitement, pep rallies we are seeing from the harris-walz campaign, vice president harris told reporters yesterday she will be releasing an economic plan this week. one factor that has progressives excited is the selection of governor tim walz as her presidential running mate. his record as governor of minnesota includes a long list of policies on the progressive wish list that also pole well
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across the country. joining me now, congressman mike pocan of wisconsin, cofounder and cochair of the labor caucus and former chair of the progressive caucus. congressman, thank you for being here. your progressive credentials and needed no introduction. what policies are you looking for when vice president harris unveils her economic plan this week? >> sure, first, thanks for having me. we already know she is part of the biden-harris administration that has done an awful lot. a big part of the build back better agenda got done, addressing infrastructure, climate change, reducing the cost of prescription drugs, making things here in america again, but there are some things we couldn't get done. but i think that is going to be part of that agenda. so, we want to see those people forward policies that have brought support in wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, places you have to win in order to get elected. those progressive policies were
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part of what joe biden and kamala harris already have been advocating for. throw on top of it the vice president selection and i think progressives are very happy with the direction of this campaign. >> before kamala harris entered the race, there was a great deal of concern by progressives about how the current administration was handling the situation in the middle east. vice president harris seems to have been able to navigate that tight rope thus far, pretty effectively, but there may come a point where there has to be a reckoning of the policies of the current administration and the direction that the vice president wants to move in, should she become elected. how do you think progressives are going to respond to that conversation going forward? >> i think the good news is we have already heard a lot of good things from the vice president throughout this, since october 7th. and i think she comes from the era that is dealing with israel and palestine right now, maybe not three or four decades ago, like bluntly, president biden had come from.
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and being a part of it right now tells you you can't have 2.3 million people in an open air prison in gaza. you can have the type of deaths of women and children like we have seen in gaza. and israel is a friend, but if your friend has a 12 pack of beer and a bottle of jack daniels, you take away their keys. i think a lot of what we have heard from the vice president has been commonsense, talking about the middle east and the way that respects human lives of everyone. israelis and palestinians. and i can already tell from people i talked to here in wisconsin who care about this issue, this is a turn and they see a real opportunity to have a better policy in the middle east. >> one of the battlegrounds on this very issue is the state of michigan, primarily because of the heavy, heavy presence of a population in dearborn that carries a lot about palace tinian freedom and rights. going to michigan in detroit thursday, harris shot down an antiwar protester and the crowd
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ultimately was delighted, and in arizona on friday, she tried to make a more understanding roster. let's take a look at the change. >> we are here to fight for our democracy. >> [ cheers and applause ] >> which includes respecting the voices that i think that we are hearing from, and let me just say this, on topic, of what i think i am hearing over there. let me just speak to that for a moment, then i'm going to get back to the business at hand. so let me say, i have been clear, now is the time to get a cease-fire deal and get the hostage deal done. >> a cease-fire deal is not a weapons embargo. is that going to be enough to satiate different progressives who do believe this is already going too far and the u.s. needs to not only push for a cease-fire, but also, a weapons embargo when it comes to the
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idf? >> right now, the immediate issue is a cease-fire to save people's lives right now, and that's what many of my constituents have been asking for since shortly after october 7th. this is a position that sings with at least 70% of my district. so, she is saying the right thing, she said the right thing in the months previous, and i know she is going to do the right thing in this era, because she understands the current geopolitics of both israel and palestine. so, again, i think that message in my college campuses in wisconsin, in those rural parts of my district where this issue came up often in town halls, she is speaking to those voters, that is going to be really important to make sure they come out in november. >> there is a battle in different democratic party circles, there are progressive members who believe she and her
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anti-monopoly policies have basically been one of the strong points of the biden administration, and now with president biden having dropped out of the race and kamala harris at the top of the ticket, there are big financial backers on the democratic side, the founder at least, reid hoffman, who are trying to get harris to dump kohn and shift the party back to being pro- corporate, pro-big business. is it a concern among progressives that kamala harris may ultimately cave to some of these donors? >> if i were a special interest in washington, d.c., i would want to keep her quiet as well, because she is doing a fantastic job going after those big corporations, protecting consumers. back in may, i was on an oversight committee, and she was talking about an oil company executive who there was open communication with a foreign entity to both press fix and supply fix oil, part of why we are all paying more for gasoline right now. and the job she is doing is exactly what consumers want, again, in places like wisconsin, where we are more working- class, modest means, we are
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worried about those gas prices going up. i understand, big oil and special interests want to keep those prices up. fortunately, the biden-harris administration have been pushing back, and we need more of that, not less. >> boozman mike pocan, thank you so much. coming up next, john giles, the republican mayor of mesa, arizona is choosing his country, send loyalty to his party be . the mayor is here with me next to make his case. we have more ayman coming up on the other side of the break point the break point nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid for twice as long as pepcid. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium.
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the republican party has been taken over by extremists that are committed to forcing people in the center of the political spectrum out of the party. so, i have something to say to those of us who are in the political middle. you don't owe anything.
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>> a lot of folks talk about putting country before party, but that's what it actually looks like. the man you just heard from is john giles, a lifelong republican and the mayor of mesa, arizona. he is part of a campaign within a campaign as a first-team closet, named republicans for harris. they are aiming to recruit just affected republican voters, specifically those who supported nikki haley in the republican primaries. so far, they have obtained two dozen endorsements from governors, members of congress, and former trump administration officials. mesa mayor john giles joins me now, good evening, mayor giles. this is not your first rodeo with maga, i want to make it really clear to the audience. you know what you're doing here. in 2022, arizona republican party censured you for not backing blake masters. talk to us about your decision to take a stand against this current iteration of the republican party. >> sure, well, it is something
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i don't do lightly. i am a registered republican, i do identify -- i think the republican party more closely aligns to where i am at on most issues, and i really enjoyed serving in what is essentially a nonpartisan position as mayor. i have progressive democrats and conservative republicans on my city council and we all get along just great, because we focus on solving problems and we focus on the issues that are in between the 20 yard lines. and so, i don't look for opportunities to stick my toe into partisan politics. but there are issues, there are times when silence is not an option. my city is a large city, and our relationship with the white house and with washington, d.c. is critical to our success. so, i have been there long enough to see a few different presidential administrations, and i know that some are effective and some are not, and
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if donald trump is back in the white house, that is not what's in the best interest of my city. >> you know, mayor, donald trump has sort of seemed invincible, at least in terms of critique within the party since 2015 when he came down the escalator in trump tower. and a large part of that was seen as though -- same because people inside felt like this is not a guy you want to be on the bad side of. now that we are seeing more republicans speak out against him, is not to be interpreted as a sign of internal weakness or believing that he is more vulnerable than he was several years before now? >> yes, i think it is, but i mean, it's also -- for example, in my case, you feel compelled to do the right thing, regardless of the consequences. so, i think there is that. there are people that have to sleep at night, and i think there is also -- if donald
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trump has a sense of vulnerability now. i mean, the wheels are starting to come off of this campaign, and i think more and more, as people like tim walz point out, that the republican positions and the republican candidates are just a little weird, i think that is creating some traction. and so, i think it is probably going to empower a few more republicans to say, hey, we've got a very narrow tent here, let's extend the stakes, let's get back to being something other than a maga party. >> i want to play something that vice president harris said last week and get your thoughts. let's listen. >> and then the outcome will be fair. and isn't that what we are talking about in this here election? where saying we just want fairness. we want dignity for all people. we want to recognize the right of all people have the freedom and liberty, to make choices, especially those that are of
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heart and home, and not have their government telling them what to do. >> giving people the right to make freedoms and not having the government tell them what to do. those sound eerily reminiscent of some core republican principles. is that something that you think is resonating with members like you who are of the republican party, but thinking about defecting to kamala harris's election, and how much of it do you actually buy? >> yeah, vice president harris sounds like a great republican there, doesn't she? and i think that's a message we need to get out. the trump campaign is doing their best to paint her into a corner as being a flaming progressive that is not going to govern from the center. but that is not the experience that we have seen over the last 3 1/2 years from the biden- harris in ministration. we have seen bipartisan legislation passed that has been very impactful in places like mesa, arizona.
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the chips act, the bipartisan infrastructure act, the inflation reduction act. every week as mayor, i go to groundbreaking's and ribbon- cutting of major economic projects in my city that wouldn't have happened absent of that legislation. so, i think the more that speeches like that that she gets, the easier it will be for people like me to help republicans see that she is very much a preferred choice for them and for people who care about freedom and care about the proper role of government. donald trump is coming in with that 2025 agenda and wanting to take items away from people. >> the mayor, one of the things that is apparent to me is you see the future of the country as dependent on people being able to bridge ideological gaps, regardless of partisan politics. my question to you is on the other side of donald trump's candidacy, whether he is victorious or whether he is defeated in november, what do you see as a likely prototype
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of the republican candidate going forward? is it more of a jd vance, or is it more of a centrist who is trying to at least bridge that ideological gap? >> well, this election really will determine the future of the republican party, no doubt. if trump and vance are successful, i think vance is the heir apparent, i think you will see more, they will just double down on the white christian nationalist credentials of that party. because it will have worked for them. now, in arizona at least, it is not working in state and local elections. the maga party is doing very, very well in primary elections, but they are losing terribly in general elections. i think hopefully, we will start to see more of that across the country and at the top of the ticket, because it really is, this vote is for a lot of things, but this election absolutely also is about the future of the republican party. that's a serious reminder that all politics are local in deed.
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that presidents are immune from criminal prosecution for official acts. in response, democrats unlocked a new chest move against this decision. senate majority leader chuck schumer rolled out legislation to eliminate presidential immunity called the no kings act. this bill states that presidents and vice presidents, sitting or former, cannot have immunity unless specified by congress. now, in theory, this is the kind of reform that would be easier to accomplish than biden's proposed constitutional amendment, because schumer's plan would only need a simple majority of both chambers of congress to get it passed. but we know that republicans will fight it. schumer's move is a rare public example of what democracy in action actually looks like. it has 34 cosponsors so far with oregon senators ron wyden and jeff merkley joining just last week. now correspondent ian mel heiser. thank you so much for being here. can you just walk us through more clearly the details of
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this bill and how significant it is that majority leader schumer has just introduced this after biden's proposal? >> it is very significant. so, i think the broader context year, the trump immunity decision was such a betrayal by the supreme court. the idea that the president can order the justice department to rest all of his political rivals and maybe throw them in a camp somewhere, and nothing can be done to that president afterwards, is -- i mean, it's unimaginable. i'm still shocked that the supreme court did this. so, there are various different proposals, people, mostly democrats are trying to figure out a way to do something about this terrible decision. what schumer's bill relies on is a rarely used congressional power called jurisdiction stripping. and jurisdiction stripping means the constitution says that the supreme court gets to hear appeals with such exceptions
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that the congress may make, so schumer wants to create an exception to the courts ability to hear cases involving presidential immunity. is it going to work? i mean, i'm skeptical because the supreme court can just strike down any law and they can make up a reason to strike down this law, but i think it shows the creativity and the fact that democrats realize that something truly awful has happened, and we need to be seeking creative solutions for it. >> speaking of being creative, en, let's play this out a little bit. he talked about the fact that the supreme court might do something, you have written about that republicans are likely to fight this. what other maneuvers might we expect to see in order to try to get this piece of legislation across the finish line? >> right, so, i mean the first thing is that democrats have to win the election. right now, they don't control the house. so, nothing reducing the power of a republican controlled supreme court is going to pass,
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so long as the republican party controls either the white house or either house of congress. so, everything turns on the election. now, assuming that democrats take both houses and kamala harris wins, then congressman schumer's bill, president harris would presumably sign it, then there would potentially be a lawsuit, saying wait, this isn't constitutional, they exceeded the power to use jurisdiction stripping, and i would have to go to the supreme court, we would see if the supreme court would strike it down. again, we're talking about a court that said donald trump was allowed to do crimes when he was in office, so i don't have a lot of confidence in the humility of this court or its willingness to accept the democratic process has turned against them as such a bill passes, but there are other options. congress can pull the courts budget, congress can potentially add seats to the supreme court and those could be filled with harris
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appointees. so, the idea is you want to be creative. jurisdiction stripping is a less aggressive move than adding seats to the supreme court. so, give the justices a chance to be reasonable here, and if they aren't, you know, then there are other things that congress can do. >> you just were talking about the court essentially giving the president permission to do crimes. in her dissent, which we were referencing, justice sonia sotomayor warned if progressives were to order the navy seal team 6 to assassinate a political rival, to take a bribe, they would be i mean, what you think this says about the state of democracy, knowing that there are so many lawmakers, particularly republicans who are okay with this decision, or do you think that it is more so ideologically they could care less, this is just to support their guy? >> i will be a little charitable to the republican justices here, i just think
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they are incompetent. i think they live in a world of theory, and in their theoretical world, there is this thing called the unitary executive that they care a lot about, and they just didn't think through the consequences of what it would mean to say if donald trump gets back into office, he is allowed to round up -- order the justice department to rest all of his enemies. i think they just live in this world of theory. and very unfortunate. i mean, it's possible that they did it because they wanted to pave the road to a dictatorship, but the same day they handed on the trump immunity decision, they also handed down a decision saying that the republican legislators in florida and texas aren't allowed to seize control of what media companies have to publish. so, if they were going for a dictatorship, i would have expected the first amendment case to come down the other way. i think they're just very bad at their jobs and they did not under and what they were doing when they handed down that awful
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awful trump immunity decision. >> that reminds me of one of my favorite coats, never attribute to malice what can be claimed by incompetence. ian, thank you so much for being with us. coming up shortly, what the white house is saying today, following an israeli air strike that killed at least 100 people who were seeking shelter in a school. stay tuned for more ayman. >> [ music ] >> [ music ] ♪ (man) yes! ♪ ♪ (vo) you've got your sunday obsession and we got you. now with verizon, get nfl sunday ticket from youtube tv on us and get every out-of-market sunday game. plus $800 off samsung galaxy z fold6. only on verizon. (jalen hurt) see you sunday. new centrum menopause supplements help unpause life when symptoms pause it. with a multivitamin plus hot flash support. daily zz for quality sleep. and enxtra for focus and clarity.
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in gaza, this weekend brought one of the deadliest attacks in the ten-month war between israel and hamas. according to gaza civil defense, an air strike by israel hit the shelter in gaza city saturday morning, killing at least 100 people and hurting dozens more. the strikes to the school, including the mosque inside during dawn prayers. in a statement, the white house said it was deeply concerned about reports of civilian casualties and urged israel to take measures to minimize civilian harm. the israeli military has pushed back on the gaza government casualty figure, saying they do not distinguish between combatants and noncombatants, and they do not match the information held by the idf. the idf added the strike was targeting a hamas command center embedded in the school compound, saying numerous steps were taken to mitigate the risk of harming civilians. nbc news is unable to independently verify whether there were actually command centers or combatants at the
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school. since october 7th and the terror attack, there has been a huge increase in violence in the occupied west bank, but settler attacks against our villages started long before the hamas attacks. >> they came in broad daylight, about a dozen settlers sending fire olive trees in the village. one of 1000 documented attacks and occupied west bank. residents say violence or from settlements, illegal under international law, has exploded since october 7th. >> they put the fires sometimes in here, other times in here, sometimes to the other areas. >> the mayor says the war in gaza has made a bad situation worse. >> why do you think it has increased since october 7th, what is different? >> because they now have a huge excuse for them to do what they planned. i fear we are now subject to [
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inaudible ] and to move out of the village. >> reporter: he says a man from one of five settlements also killed sheep, joined by others, torching cars and bonds and regular attacks. in addition to attacking forms and killing livestock, settlers have stormed this village and damaged residents' personal property. they set fire to about 50 cars here in an attack last april. according to the united nations, 553 palestinians have been killed by the israeli military and settlers in the west bank since october 7th, while 15 israelis have died. israel's far right government continues to see is more land for settlements considered illegal by the u.n. and countries including the u.s. land deemed essential for a future palestinian state. some settlers have directly
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confronted journalists reporting on the violence, like our crew in december. >> stopped the camera, get in the car now! >> reporter: a settler agreed to speak to us in jerusalem. he denied witnessing acts of violence, but says the west bank is jewish land. >> the only method of resistance, we figured out so far, is to create as many jewish communities as we can. x so you say you would never leave the west bank? >> no, and i willing to fight the state. >> reporter: for palestinians, these words mean more displacement, violence, and occupation. last november, i visited the home of a family in the palestinian village. a street vendor killed by a settler from the nearby settlement, his mother-in-law heartbroken then, still can't stop the tears more than half a year later. >> translator: every day that
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passes, our yearning increases. >> reporter: on the same rooftop with him from last november, beloved cousin mohammed says life has gotten much harder since october 7th, even harvesting their own land is now off-limits. >> but that is your land, i mean, it is the village's land. >> this is their logic, this is what logic says, but here, we don't have logic, we have power. the power is theirs and we cannot do anything with our land. >> reporter: the suspect in the killing, an off-duty soldier, was briefly detained and later released. the idf told nbc, they will not comment on an ongoing investigation. x even when palestinians use the judicial procedures, when they use a lot and make a case against settlers or against the state in order to provide their protection to go back to their lands and their homes, the judicial system seems also
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complicit in postponing these hearings, not pushing the state to provide protection to the families. >> reporter: residents have installed metal guards on their windows after rockthrowing attacks by settlers. in the deserted town square, we only saw a few villagers out in the summer heat. many staying behind closed doors in fear of the next assault. paula, nbc news, burka in the west bank. a new hour of ayman starts right after this. >> [ music ] there tor about fa.
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>> tonight, on this new hour of ayman. trump and his republican allies say they may have nothing to do with project 2025, but a new bombshell report has videos that say otherwise. we've got the receipts. and j.d. vance is on the defense. we know he is connected to heritage foundation president kevin roberts, so why is he shelving the book that they both worked on together? and the good, the bad, and the worst celebrity endorsements. are they effective or is this just about pandering? i am charles coleman jr. in for ayman mohyeldin , and we have a lot to talk about. let's do it. >> ♪ ♪

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