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new research suggests there may be water and lots of it beneath the surface of mars. the findings are based on seismic measurements from nasa's insight lander. researchers say there may be enough water in the cracks of underground rocks to form a global ocean. scientists say the water below the surface most likely would have seeped from the surface billions of years ago when mars had rivers, lakes, oceans, and what knows what else. it looks like there's a ton of water in mars. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," former president trump returns to x in a tech-riddled meanders
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conversation with elon musk. ramping up conspiracy theories and keeping his focus largely on president biden who is to longer the candidate. >> there was a coup. this was a coup of a president of the united states. he didn't want to leave. they said, we can do it the nice way or we can do it the hard way. >> this hour, former top obama and biden white house official susan rice joining me on the racial attacks against kamala harris. the fbi investigating hacks into presidential campaigns as well as former trump advisor roger stone. we are tracking primary races in minnesota. team usa vowing to continue the fight in the jordan chiles medal controversy after another devastating setback for the olympic gymnastics star.
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♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. billionaire trump backer elon musk is trying to help the former president blunt kamala harris on twitter. technical glitches delayed the interview by 40 minutes, reminiscent of ron desantis on twitter. musk blamed it on a cyberattack. in a two-hour chat from mar-a-lago, mr. trump railed against kamala harris as he continues to tout his friendly relationship with vladimir putin despite putin's invasion of ukraine. i said to vladimir putin, i told
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him, don't do it. he said, no way. i said, way. >> trump's relationship with musk is significant given he has major pentagon contracts, including a $23 million contract with ukraine, which depends on starlink for vital military capabilities against russia. the harris campaign in its response is blasting musk as a lackee for trump. joining me now, trump campaign correspondent garrett haake, senior white house correspondent gabe gutierrez and sam stein. garrett, this was one big trump campaign ad sponsored by elon
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musk. what's driving the budding friendship? we have seen a big change in this relationship. there's this pledge that he has since walked away from, $45 million donation. >> reporter: musk and trump have not always been on the same page. you remember musk had a similar glitchy rollout when he helped ron desantis launch his primary challenge to donald trump more than a year ago. a year prior to that, musk suggested he was over trump and trump needed to ride off into the sunset. they have the same enemies. musk sees the far left, what he calls woke culture to be an enemy to his vision for america. donald trump is an ally in that fight against the left. the two have been agreeing on immigration, about their shared distaste for certain unions and
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how they are dealt with, which has led to further problems down the line for the pair. you heard some disagreement, not really characterized as such, about the future of electric cars and energy in this country. nevertheless, the two have been united. musk is funding to some level -- we don't know how much money -- a super pac assisting donald trump. it was an in-kind contribution to reach the folks disengaged from traditional news media but might pay attention to a stream like that, like the streams donald trump has been doing to try to turn out the hidden trump voters around the country. >> sam stein, let's talk about that. on trump's return to x or twitter, "the bulwark" writes he is trying to script his own campaign reset. what were your takeaways from his chat? we are calling it a chat, not an
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interview. >> trump himself has called himself the hemingway of 140 characters. my takeaway was that it was exceptionally boring, considering the personalities involved. you have one of the most interesting tech wizards, eccentric billionaire elon musk and the perhaps the most evocative political figure in history in donald trump. you put them together and it was boring, frankly. it was obviously a tech glitch to roll it out. people were waiting in some bizarre elevator music. then 45 minutes in, they got to talking. it was two hours of meandering, large-scale disagreement, but it was trump reliving stories that he told before and then going over stuff he said before. it's not that he sticks to script it's just topics we heard from him before.
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the most interesting stuff is what will cause trump problems, which is praising elon musk for getting rid of workers who want to unionize. i don't see how that benefits him. a bizarre tangent about kamala harris' "time" cover where he compared her to melania. it was weird. overall, two hours later, it's hard to see what was gained from it if you are trump. at most, 1.2 million people watching -- or listening. that's a good cable news audience for fox news that he likes to do, if that. if he is trying to reach a new audience, there was probably better ways and ones that didn't involve the tech snafus up front. >> gabe, first of all, what -- the harris campaign, we quoted some of the response.
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the bromance with vladimir putin, given everything that's happened, how do you compute that? >> reporter: look, the harris campaign, as you suggested, by reading the initial statement, the harris campaign is trolling the trump campaign at this point. you read the statement that talked about them calling himself obsessed with rich guys that couldn't run a live stream in the year 2024. they also reposted another tweet from donald trump, a previous tweet, if you want to put that up. you mentioned the failure to launch last year by ron desantis. the harris campaign reposted something that donald trump had previously written. wow the twitter launch is a disaster. his campaign will be a disaster. the kamala harris campaign retweeting that. the campaign is seizing on some other comments that the former president made when talking to
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elon musk, praising him for firing workers that had gone on strike. today, the uaw saying that they filed federal labor charges against elon musk and donald trump for what the union views is trying to intimidate workers. expect the harris campaign to really jump on that message. tim walz making his first solo campaign appearance later today in california, speaking in front of some municipal workers as well. we expect the harris campaign to really zero in on that message, a key voting block, of course, union workers, as this campaign rolls on. >> trump just posted on truth social that there was more people listening because it crashed so many people were listening. gabe, the harris team has hired a top advisor to help with the pro-palestinian protests. they are anticipating protests
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next week. there's no cease-fire agreement. the dnc is bracing for it. >> reporter: yes. this is a big concern going forward into the democratic national convention next week. we are speaking with someone -- a co-founder of the uncommitted movement. they have been demanding a speaking slot at this convention. have not heard back whether that's the case. you don't know if they will get any sort of platform in the dnc. this comes as the campaign really tries to walk that fine line. essentially, allowing groups like this, allowing pro-palestinian groups to have their say while at the same time kamala harris has not really, in terms of policy, has not differentiated herself from president biden. perhaps a little in tone. but this is all something that's could potentially come to a head next week at the dnc. we expect protests there. >> garrett, donald trump has
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been saying abortion is not a big issue. now in arizona, they will vote on a constitutional amendment to protect abortion rights. what does this mean for the trump campaign? >> reporter: he and his campaign hope abortion will not be a big issue this fall. things like this, states adding these ballot measures, could be a huge driver for turnout, particularly for democrats. every time we have seen a measure like this put on a state's ballot, the measure to protect abortion rights has passed, even in kansas. the idea that this is the kind of thing that could drive turnout in arizona, i think the conventional wisdom is that helps democrats. it's possible that this is such a salient issue that it cuts across party lines. that's the theory of the case in florida, which will see a similar measure on its ballot this fall. notable that donald trump has not said how he will vote in florida's abortion ballot measure when he was asked directly last week. >> you have been all over that.
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he has been on different sides of the abortion issue, as the campaign has progressed. garrett, gabe, sam, thanks to all of you. in 90 seconds, the fbi's investigation of alleged hacking attempts against both campaigns. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. it's odd how in an instant things can transform. slipping out of balance into freefall. (the stock market is now down 23%).
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and democratic presidential campaigns. a source familiar with the matter tells nbc news the suspected breach by iran targeted former trump advisor roger stone and three biden-harris campaign staffers. the trump campaign said it had been hacked. joining me now, devlin barrett, a "washington post" reporter. has been all over the story. was the first to report on the targets of the suspected hack. and frank figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi. devlin, is it clear whether iran is responsible for sending internal trump campaign material to "the washington post"? >> that's unclear. the original hacking investigation began in june. the fbi has been working that for more than a month, basically two months now.
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the new part, this leaking part has only been going on in the public space for a few days. the fbi is still trying to understand, is that a direct byproduct of the iranian hacking attempt? is that an indirect byproduct or something else going on? >> frank, let's talk about this. donald trump did not, as other campaigns have not -- did not report the initial hack to the fbi, which maybe gave them a late start. we should point out the clinton campaign was not eager to talk about that either. they didn't want the fbi looking into all of their data. the difference is that in 2016, donald trump revelled in the hack. took the information. called out russia, if you are listening, give us the 30,000 hillary clinton emails. not that there were. but that was his take. a very different response now that he is the victim -- his campaign is the victim of it.
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>> yeah, indeed. there's lots of reasons why donald trump and his campaign staff might not want the fbi going into their data and looking at evidence of whether they were successfully speer speerfished or not. iran is trying to interfere and now it appears the other campaign. in the same vein, it could be true that something is up with roger stone and/or the campaign, and this weirdness in my experience with the fact -- would end up in the hands of "politico" seems a bit odd to me. that's where the fbi needs to flesh this out. it's tougher to do when you don't have a cooperative victim here. i would call for full cooperation by the trump
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campaign. we are living in a time of conspiracy theories right now across social media. the public finds it hard to believe anything coming out of the trump campaign. that's a problem from a national security standpoint. if we can't understand established fact, particularly if it involves an adversary messing with our election process, then the adversary wins at that point. >> a couple of weeks ago, devlin, the office of national intelligence, the dni, said that iran, russia and russia primary but iran and china were all involved in trying to interfere with the election. is this at all related? maybe? we don't know? >> i think it's related in the sense that we have seen now election after election, foreign countries want to on some degree gather intelligence, to some degree meddle, and to some degree outright try to put their hands on the scale and change the outcome of our elections. i think we have to think of this in the broader context of, this
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is just a thing that happens now in terms of foreign state attempting to at least hack data and maybe even interfere. i think we have to sort of expect more of this type of thing going forward. >> devlin, frank, thanks to both of you. primary obstacles. a third member of the squad trying to avoid defeat in the primary in minnesota. we will break down today's races to watch. later, my conversation with paul whelan's attorney with an update on how he is doing after five years in the kremlin's custody. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. a m. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea,
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get the fastest connection to paris with xfinity. it's primary day in minnesota as the season begins to wind down. congresswoman omar facin a tough race. her biggest challenge comes from a former minnesota city council member. the same challenger she very narrowly fended off in 2022. after fellow squad members lost their primaries due to a flood of funding to their challengers from the powerful pro-israel lobbying group, there is concern in omar's camp. but they have not been supporting her challenger in minnesota. in her district there's a large
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somali american group supporting her. joining me now, mark murray. it's controversial, the way they use their money. but it's not that evident in minnesota. >> omar has the fund-raising advantage in this primary. almost a six to one advantage in spending, according to the latest spending documents that we have. what's notable about that is that when we saw bowman and bush losing, they had the fund-raising and spending deficit. precisely because groups were boosting their primary challengers. this doesn't seem to be the same case. it's worth noting, as you said, that omar only defeated samuels by two percentage points in 2022. we should get -- brace ourselves for a close race.
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the same dynamics we saw in missouri and new york don't seem to be evident in this primary. >> has tim walz weighed in? >> not to my knowledge. not only you end up having minnesota, but i'm -- because i'm focused on the battleground states, the state that actually ends up touching minnesota and bleeds into a lot of markets is wisconsin. >> mark murray, thank you. speaking of wisconsin, it's also primary day in neighboring wisconsin, across the border. if elected in november, she will be one of the first pro-abortion rights ob/gyns in congress. she's the candidate in the 8th congressional district. it's good to see you.
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since roe v. wade was overturned, there's a lawsuit challenging an 1842 law playing out. you have had to make the commute to rural minnesota to do your job. talk to me about your work. is that once a week? how do you handle your patients? >> you are so right. when the dobbs decision came down, we lost nearly all access to abortion care here in wisconsin. the only exception was the life of the mother. i joined the attorney general's lawsuit to fight back against this terrible law. i'm proud to say it's my name that's on the judgment that brought abortion back to wisconsin. but as a result, i've been attacked. there have been attacks by anti-abortion groups against my medical license. it's not safe for me to practice here in the state where my family has been for six generations. so i travel to northern
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minnesota once a month for about seven to ten days. i deliver a lot of babies. i do surgery. i provide contraception and take care of women who are having issues with menopause, general ob/gyn stuff, in an environment where people desperately need health care and we don't have enough doctors. >> the trump campaign has been, in various stages on the abortion issue, hoping it doesn't become a galvanizing issue. since the time has elapsed since dobbs, what are you seeing? are people energized over this issue in your district and in wisconsin? >> interestingly, people are very energized in my district. if you look at wisconsin's eighth, the green bay area, this is an open seat in the swingiest district where the most independent voters are of the swingiest state during the most consequential election of our
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lifetime. this election will be a showdown between an anti-abortion extremist and me, the sixth generation wisconsinite born in this district who brought abortion back to wisconsin. this race could become the national referendum on abortion. >> you also know minnesota governor tim walz now. tell us about him and how supportive -- what his positions have been on this issue. >> i am a fan of tim walz for so many reasons. he signed a law, a shield law protecting patients and doctors who come to minnesota to provide or receive health care. he invited me and some of my colleagues to be there at the signing, because that's life saving for our patients and for many wisconsinites.
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the defining moment for tim walz, for my impression of tim walz, was when i was working in southwestern minnesota in an area where trump won in 2020 by 94%. it couldn't get any redder. when there's a train derailment, governor walz was there like that. he showed up. he reainsuranc he reassured them. he was the leader everybody needed to see. that's what all americans want is a leader who they believe is working for them. >> as i just note, donald trump won the mike gallagher district, your district. so you have got a hill to climb against republican red state support right there in wisconsin. >> yes. but it's a very different district than last time around. mike gallagher was a popular congressman. these are independent voters.
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these are not democrats or republicans. these are famously independent voters. they want someone who hears them because of the gross partisan gerrymandering wisconsin has been living with, our legislators haven't had to respond to people. they haven't had to work for their jobs. green bay was carved up into three senate districts, which is ridiculous, to water down the actual third largest center. to carve it up into three districts takes away what the people of green bay want to see. now that we have got new maps and we've got candidates running in every single senate district in nearly every assembly district, we haven't had this in over a decade. our candidates are out talking to people who haven't been heard in years. it's making a difference. we know it will increase voter turnout, not just for me, not just for the assembly and senate
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candidates, but for senator baldwin and the walz and harris ticket. >> thanks for your perspective from the democratic side of the campaign. of course, we will talk to the republicans from wisconsin. an open invitation. thank you. coming up, politics and policy. former u.n. ambassador, white house official susan rice joining me to discuss the keys for kamala harris heading into next week's convention. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. andra mitchell reports" on msnbc ♪ (man) yes! ♪ (vo) you've got your sunday obsession and we got you. now with verizon, get nfl sunday ticket from youtube tv on us and get every out-of-market sunday game. plus $800 off samsung galaxy z fold6. only on verizon.
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in his conversation with elon musk last night, donald trump repeatedly attacked kamala harris' policies. he seemed focus on praising her appearance, comparing a new cover illustration of his democratic opponent to his own wife melania. >> don't know what to make of that. joining us now, susan rice. former national security advisor and u.n. ambassador. as we just heard, donald trump referring to harris as camilla.
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what do you think he is trying to achieve? >> i think it's all part of his strategy to denigrate and objectify the vice president as he does women of all sorts all the time. donald trump is incapable of respecting women. it's not only in his dna and how he has treated women at every stage of his life personally and professionally, but it's at the root of his policy approach. project 2025 and the trump-vance agenda is to take american society and american women back decades and generations to a time when we didn't control our bodies, we didn't have rights. this is really the thrust of what his agenda is about. vice president harris and governor walz are very clear. this is an election about the
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future. are we going to have a country where everybody counts? whatever their background, whatever their gender, whatever their age or where they came from. if they are an american citizen, they deserve a stake in this country and the ability not just to get by but to get ahead. where our freedoms are protected and respected. donald trump and j.d. vance really want to take us back to a time when those rights and freedoms were denied, not just to women but to the vast majority of americans in this country. so he approaches this by belittling and denigrating and objectifying his opponents. in this case, using gender and sexualized terminology. it's to distract from the reality that he is running a campaign that is really retro,
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dangerous and self-serving. >> let me pick up on the racial component of this. some republican leaders, the former speaker and others, have criticized the racial attacks, the thread of racial attacks, and said that that's not what he should be doing. in particular, after his attack s at the convention in chicago. >> i don't know. is she indian or is she black? >> she's always identified as a black woman. she went to a historically black college. >> i respect either one. she doesn't. she was indian and then she made a turn -- she became a black person. >> as someone who has dealt with this all your life, just how do you react to that? someone who became a black person. >> in so many ways, it's not
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worth dignifying that kind of base and ignorant attack. >> as a tactic, as a campaign tactic. >> it's a tactic that's meant to divide and to denigrate the fact that 10% of the american population, 33 million americans are mixed race, more than one racial background. the fact that somebody who has been president and is running for president can't understand and respect that it is possible to be a mixed race person and valued and capable and worthy as anybody else and as an american, given our history, given how this country has handled matters of race, that people who are mixed race and are -- one of
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those races is black, are viewed as and typically identify as black. that's what vice president harris has done all her life. frankly, it's not just because she went to howard university and was in a black sorority. it's possible to be both. >> let me also ask you about nbc reporting that harris is going to begin to highlight, quote, unfishished pieces of biden's policies. she has been criticized for not laying out policy where she has had to organize a campaign and choose a running mate. universal childcare, paid family leave, affordable housing, minimum wage increase, things you worked on in the white house. how important is it for her to find a way to differentiate
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herself from aspects of the biden agenda? maybe move the ball, put an emphasis on other things? how does she do that and still be loyal to the fact that she worked with joe biden? >> first of all, it's been barely over three weeks since she has been the presumptive democratic nominee. she's done an extraordinary job picking a first class running mate, barnstorming the country, generating enthusiasm, making people understand that this is an exciting election about the future and one that can be waged on the basis of optimism and joy rather than fear, hatred and division. as she said has said, she will outline aspects of her economic policy later this week. i think it's very important to remember that this has been the biden-harris agenda. kamala harris has been an
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integral architect and executer of the policies of the biden-harris administration. when you talk about the important business that she's committed to continuing and finishing, things like paid family leave, making permanent the child tax credit, making childcare more affordable, raising the minimum wage, respecting workers and helping to strengthen unions, these are almost elements of a framework that she devised as part of the biden administration and is keen to see through to the finish line. there will be important -- as there should be -- aspects of continuity in many policy areas. of course, the vice president will outline her vision and where she sees opportunities to advance their collective agenda
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and take it further forward. we look forward to hearing that. but this notion that she somehow doesn't deserve credit for and isn't part of and wasn't an integral architect of the biden-harris administration agenda is not only false, it's frankly somewhat bizarre and offensive. >> dr. susan rice, thank you very much, ambassador, for being with us. >> thank you. the olympic debacle. team usa's response to another setback in jordan chiles' fight to keep her bronze medal. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. y usr when you can use 1 fire extinguisher. and to fight heartburn, why take 10 antacids throughout the day when you can take 1 prilosec. for easier heartburn relief, one beats ten. prilosec otc. one pill. 24 hours. zero heartburn.
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hopes for a speedy solution. there are still a few options moving forward. usa gymnastics posting to social media within the last few hours that they are working full-time to pursue justice for jordan. we know the court of arbitration for sport says it cannot reopen procedurally a case once a decision has been made, even with the presentation of new evidence, unless all parties agree. we did reach out to romanian gymnastics officials who have not responded to our request for comment. there's an appeal to the swiss tribunal that they will pursue. that could take months if not years. usa gymnastics releasing a statement. and appeal process." usa gymnastics says they have timestamped video that showed they made two statements within the one-minute appeal during the floor routine. an aggravating upsetting
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american flag pin from his lapel and pinned it on paul. whalen was convicted of espionage, a trumped up charge that he and the government said was a farce. he was sentenced to 16 years in a russian penal colony. joining me is his attorney, ryan fahey, who represented paul pro bono since 2019 and worked directly with the white house and others i believe to secure his freedom. he served more than five years in a russian captivity and saw other people getting out, forever reed, brittney griner. how does he feel now? >> paul's a person of tremendous courage, and that was shown on the tarmac, it was shown in five years in a russian people colony. and -- penal colony. and he's doing as well as could be expected. he's proud of that presidential pin. proud of his country for bringing him home. i've talked to him every day since, and he's wearing the pin. >> he's in san antonio. they go through a process. how long will that take place?
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there are experts there at readjusting to real life after being in the russian prison. >> that's correct. paul's now moving to the next stage of what will be a long recovery. he can stay up to 19 days down at the brooks army medical center, bamc, in san antonio, which focuses on his physical and mental health. and there are outstanding resources now for anyone facing either a hostage or a wrongful detention situation like the one paul faced. >> what happens to him personally, his career, his work? what does he do with his life? >> with all paul's courage, and he's -- as i say he's doing very well, but he does have to begin to rebuild his life now. he lost his job, his home, he lost 5.5 years of his ability to earn resources. so now he starts over and starts to rebuild his life once his health care is in order. he's going to return to michigan, to those billboards that we've seen all over the news welcoming him home, and
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he's going to start to rebuild. >> his elderly parents, of course, live there and are thrilled with his return. how agonizing was it when trevor reed, a fellow marine, got out and then brittney griner, who had -- you know, more publicity behind it. and now mark fogel and others are left behind. >> paul realizes that this was part of the russian playbook all the while. had there never been a paul whelan there wouldn't have been a trevor reed, a brittney griner, an evan gershkovich, alsu kermashena. paul has an understanding as he's trying to understand what was happening on this side of the atlantic that he was just exploited and reexploited as were, i believe, all the american public by what's happened to paul. so obviously something has to be done in the coming years about hostage diplomacy. it's no way to run foreign relations policy between
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countries. so hopefully this is something that the government will focus on to ensure there's never a paul whelan again. >> clearly a policy of vladimir putin's. what -- the secret steps behind the scenes that got him out? was it enlarging the deal to include more people in the trade? >> yeah. ultimately, look, the white house was very firmly committed to getting this done. across all of government -- and that's really a testament to the work that the family had done. elizabeth and david and andrew, to raise the profile of paul's case and to keep everybody entirely on task. that's ultimately what happened. over many, many years of a very long and complex chess game, finally the pieces fell into place, and paul was able to come home. but it took a lot of doing, as we saw, even grander than the family had understood at the time as it was announced, you know, two thursdays ago. >> is there one person that you credit? >> well, certainly the president was absolutely engaged. look, jake sullivan, the national security adviser, has been absolutely committed to
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resolving these wrongful detention cases. i can tell you he was as focused on this as anyone i've ever seen. being responsive to elizabeth in her constant agitation to get this thing done, he absolutely was committed, as was roger carstones, the special envoy for hostage affairs. a great guy who worked that office over. and i would be remiss if i didn't mention ambassadors, john huntsman and second john sullivan, who made this their top priority both as to paul and the other wrongful detainees. >> thank you so much. great to see you. congratulations. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good afternoon. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. pressure on the former president. drum's longtime allies

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