l move the internet. ♪ ♪ ooh, ooh. -let's keep it professional. professional dancers! -ok! stay connected during your move with the best in home wifi. easily transfer your services in the xfinity app. bring on the good stuff. thanks for joining us. "the reidout" with joy reid

starts now. ♪♪ tonight on "the reidout" -- >> alexis -- >> yes. >> i didn't thank you for your present. >> for many of us, that was just an iconic scene from the hit '80s series "dynasty." but for donald trump, that era is his whole life. and like a crypt keeper, he keeps digging up the old dis from the '80s. also tonight, more good news about the biden economy as vice president kamala harris gets ready to announce her economic plan. plus, how is this not a major scandal. the story that broke two weeks ago about the possibility that egypt gave a $10 million bribe to trump for his 2016 campaign. and how his attorney general, bill barr, shut down the

investigation. and we begin tonight with evangelicals a group in a surprising twist is mobilizing support for the kamala harris presidential campaign. one group, evangelical christians for kamala harris, released a new ad, highlighting that time donald trump told the family leadership summit in iowa that he does not ask god for forgiveness. >> have you ever asked god for forgiveness? >> that's a tough question. i'm not sure i have. i just -- i don't bring god into that picture. i don't. >> evangelical christians for kamala harris was not on anyone's bingo card for 2024. because most people assume evangelical is synonymous with conservative. it's not. plenty of evangelicals reject the mean, selfish version of the religion that follow jesus the christ. bishop william barber, who is an evangelical christian.

the christian pastors led the civil rights movement, think rev sharpton. not all christians are the evangelical white dudes with main character energy from the hand maid's tale. this election does keep delivering surprises. some white evangelical protestants are fed up with trump. gave him 84% of their national vote in 2020. they're not alone in tiring of his act. a separate group, christians for kamala had a zoom meeting that included leaders from several progressive groups urging supporters to get behind harris and walz. call it divine intervention or perhaps lots of christians are just getting fed up with being associated with the hateful vision of donald trump. his bible stunts and religious hypocrisy and fighting back with a counternarrative to conservative evangelicals overwhelming support for trump. these groups say the conversation on faith and spir chutly has been hijacked by the

christian right. the list continues. the group hijacked by maga want their identities back include unions, the united autoworkers, launching a nationwide effort to mobilize its 1 million active and retired workers to vote for vp harris. the national black caucus of the international brotherhood of teamsters union also endorsed vice president harris for the presidency. as the unions national president, union president sean o'brien, spoke at the republican national convention last month, is now himself slamming trump for his anti-labor comments during his bro fest with elon musk. lots of republicans are also fed one the maga-fication of their party. republicans for harris online rally was attended virtually by 73,000 people, according to organizers. former elected republican officials and party leaders, congressman and january 6th

commission member adam kinzinger made the case for supporting the democratic ticket. are we in the twilight zone, the really happy noncreepy kind. or maybe there's nothing strange about the fact that the harris-walz ticket is a movement beyond just voting against trump. it's a movement to vote for something, to vote for a change. a ticket with zero ivy leaguers, no one born with a silver spoon. but instead, regular americans who worked regular jobs like harris working her way through college with a job at mcdonald's. or walz being a teacher and football coach with no stocks and bonds in his portfolio. folks who know what it is like to be middle class and build your life, not just inherit it. these aren't people backed mainly by billionaires and whose sole policy idea is to cut taxes even further for the super rich and corporations. and americans are starting to really appreciate that. harris is leading or tied with trump in six of seven key swing states, per wednesday report

from the nonpartisan cook political report. and they will roll through pennsylvania on a bus tour on sunday, dropping in on the crucial battleground state just days before democratic national convention in chicago. speaking of the keystone state, a new quinnipiac poll of pennsylvania finds harris leading trump by three points among likely voters in a head-to-head matchup. blue collar voters, the battlegrounds, christians and unions and republicans are part of the incredible momentum that we're seeing right now. these people want their brands back. they're not all maga. and i think they want their country back, too. joining me now is olivia troy, member of republicans for harris and former senior adviser to vice president mike pence. msnbc political analyst and senator claire mccaskill of missouri and the aforementioned reverend al sharpton, host on msnbc. i want to start at the table. i was really struck by what the former governor -- the former

lieutenant governor of georgia had to say. i don't know if we have that sound bite of him really just talking about, what do we want our kids to remember us for? you were on that call yesterday. what was it like being on a call full of republicans but who are supporting a democrat? >> yeah. it was amazing. i'll be honest. i mean, it was such a privilege. i moderated the conversation. and you know what was so powerful and i would say something that gave me hope for the first time in a long time about the republican party's future, was the responses that were happening in the chat as this call was happening. just hearing from republicans across the country, one of them who said, you know, i have voted republican my entire life. i've been voting republican since reagan, and i am going to vote for kamala now. i think to me what people see in kamala harris is traditional values that we all look to, right? traditional values for america. it's the values of protecting our individual freedoms.

standing strong as america, for america's democracy. standing strong with our allies internationally. i think those traditionally in the past, joy, were -- i would say conservative -- >> what republicans ran on. >> yes, back in the day. >> yeah. >> so, yeah. it was incredible and the stories and conversation and speeches people gave i think were very personal. the george w. bush administration, 41st u.s. treasurer of the united states, and she spoke about what it was like -- she's mexican/american and what it's like to see all these ugly narratives about immigrants, minorities in the country that she sees in the republican party today and how that's not the party that she identifies with. >> yeah. the thing is -- what's interesting about it, my buddy michael steel e, he says why are you still in the republican party. i'm not leaving. they should leave. because you know, there has been this sort of metastisit.

he sort of eaten the party alive and people who -- we talked about this offline. they don't like the guy. republicans on capitol hill, but they let him eat the party. you know, and it is fascinating to watch people. they're not calling themselves ex-republicans. you are the core of the party saying we want our party back. >> yeah. to me that's what's amazing about our country. this is an organic grass roots movement that's growing. i would say that republican leadership has failed us as a party because they continued to pander and fall back in line with trump and enable him -- >> yeah. >> the worst of the worst, instincts of his. and this party and it's so damaging to the republican brand. but you're seeing now a movement that is saying, enough. and if you're not going to take a stand, we are. and we're going to back a candidate that we believe in and support. and you know, we'll see what the future holds for the gop. >> the country needs two healthy political parties.

it would be nice to have a normal republican party. argue like tax rates. rev, people think -- people don't understand what an evaljell kal christian is. again, lots of christian pastors, liberals like are evangelical. i would consider you evangelical. people considered it means hateful, mean, immigrants. evangelicals believe in jesus red letters, you have to support the immigrant, the widow, the orphan. that is evangelicalism. what do you make of christians standing up proudly and saying we want the kinder candidates? >> well, i think when you look at the fact that evangelicals live by jesus talking about the good samaritan who stopped and helped somebody of a different race and a different situation and helped him. how do you preach the good samaritan and then call people that are migrant out of their

name or say that people that are leading anti-semitic marches in charlottesville are people that are good people on both sides. so, it's really incon grews you to preach one thing on sunday and then advocate politically divisiveness and other than me i'm going to be against on monday. you have to be consistent. and i've talked to many people that i know who are evangelicals -- i grew up a pentecostal and baptist and i talked to people that are totally -- what i would call the right in terms of interpreting theology who have said, but i can't put this in my religious beliefs. i can't advocate somebody so divisive. >> yeah. and you know, claire, the other piece of it is the working class. it is interesting thing now, right, where the two ivy leaguers are on the republican ticket and the ones want to cut taxes for the super rich are on

that side and working class folks worked at mcdonald and as a teacher. donald trump said, quote, neither of them had a real job. is he like on something? a teacher is a real job. i hate to break it to trump. you know, they didn't inherit $317 million from their dada and take over his company. trump organization is trump's company. i mean, it's trump's dad's company. but look at what's happening among working class voters. so among non-college educated voters in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, according to "the new york times" siena poll, the margin that trump had over biden was 26 points. the margin he has over harris, among white non-college voters has dropped to only 13. it's -- he's still ahead but it's shrinking, claire. >> yeah. it's always been a head scratcher to me that a guy with -- that is really into ugly gilded toilets and shows of really bizarre tacky wealth and

someone who has never gotten their fingernails dirty, i like kamala worked my way through law. my parents couldn't afford to send me through law school. i worked as a server in a restaurant all through college and law school to make things work. donald trump has never done that. donald trump has never -- he's never, ever worried about how he was going to pay the bills. except he obviously was not -- didn't have any problem screwing over working people by not paying his contractors. you know, that's the other thing. >> oh, we lost claire. i think what she was saying is and it is absolutely true, you know this, rev, donald trump is known for screwing over people who are working class. meaning, workers that worked for him, contractors, subcontractors that helped him build his buildings then refuse to pay them and sue me. i'm not paying you.

>> he was notorious for not paying contractors, subcontractors and even workers. he was also notorious for not dealing in a diverse way. you must remember, donald trump's business was centered in new york. two thirds of which is black and latino, people of color. i don't know any black or latino subcontractors or contractors he ever do business with. any time that i've met with donald trump at trump towers, it was like going up the rocky mountains. the higher you got, the whiter it was. >> and let me bring claire back in. we're having so many fun gremlins today. claire, finish your thought before on top of rev's thought. >> this is somebody who never wanted -- like rev just said. this is like somebody who never wanted to touch the unwashed. he's got a bad attitude about his life because he wanted to be

accepted by the top 1% in the country. and so he overcompensated his whole life trying to be that. he would never hang out with the people at his rallies. he doesn't respect them. in fact, behind their back he probably says bad things about them. the people who take a shower after work rather than before work need to wake up and realize donald trump is not their friend. donald trump is not going to look after their needs. that is what kamala harris and tim walz are all about is about making sure that folks who work hard and play by the rules have the opportunities they deserve. that is not donald trump. >> at all. and by the way, just a note for the media, there's a lot of complaining that vice president harris is doing media. she's doing media. she travels with a press core, but i think there is a sense, too, that donald trump gets a lot of deference from the press. and it's not clear why. maybe it's because they know that they can do things to democrats that they can't do to

him. let me let y'all listen to the way that reporters have addressed president biden. just for a second. i want you to do this thought experiment. reporters addressing president biden and his white house prez secretary karine jean-pierre. [ all speaking at once ] >> i did not share classiied information. i guarantee you did not. did not say that. they did not say that. >> mr. president -- >> let me answer your question. >> the president, i can tell you, has seen a neurologist three times as it's connected to the a physical that he gets every year that we provide to all of them. >> very basic direct question. >> wait, wait. hold on. hold on. wait, wait, wait. wait a second. >> eight times or at least once in regard to president -- >> wait. hold on a second. -- >> that you should answer at

this point. >> no. wait a minute. ed, please. a little respect here. please. >> i have never seen the media scream at donald trump that way. no matter what he said to or about them. and because they know that his reaction would be -- i don't know why they don't. what do you make of that the fact that he gets so much deference that democrats don't. >> he bullies the press. he intimidates them. he disrespects them. we'll never forget when he made fun of a reporter who had certain infirmities. this is a man has no respect for the press and many of them are intimidated. on the other hand, because president biden and because karine jean-pierre operate in a way that you should operate at a presidential level and a white house press secretary level, they take kindness for weakness when you have an atmosphere set by a bully that has become normalized, they fall in line rather than do what they should

do as journalists and reporters. >> yeah. and exactly. and the pieces -- the people he doesn't intimidate, i'm going to come to you on this, olivia. the people he doesn't intimidate, i don't understand how he corrals them. and i'm talking specifically about, you know, white american women vote 60/40 republican. it's a tradition. you vote republican. but he didn't turn them off with the horrible things that he said in 2016 about what you could grab, if you're famous. that did not turn a majority of white women off. something has changed, though, i feel materially after dobbs. there's a sense of lack of confidence in, you know, whether or not -- our rights are going to be continued. right? and i think that is a change. i would love to talk to you and claire about how adding jd vance to the ticket might also create a change. i'm going to play two clips from a podcast by a guy named eric weinstein, called the portal podcast. this was in 2020. this was jd vance talking with the podcast host about his

mother-in-law. take a listen. >> and the evidence on this by the way is super clear. that's the whole purpose of the post menopausal female in theory. >> when your child was born, did your in-laws and particularly your mother-in-law, show up in some huge way? >> she lived with us for a year. >> right. >> i didn't know the answer to that. that was weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an indian won. >> unadvertised feature of marrying an indian woman that she can be a nanny and saying the whole purpose of a post-menopausal female is to be a baby sitter. when you combine a sexual assaulter, adjudicated sexual assaulter defamed e. jean carroll, having already sexually assaulted her, that guy goes after unmarried women, calling them unmiserable cat ladies.

women's nanny. the benefits of having an indian mother-in-law is nanny. >> who is the broadening coalition audience their hoping to obtain with this. i mean, quite frankly, that's not only insulting to minorities, menopausal women, i would say it's also insulting to people like my husband who married a mexican-american, who by the way, whose mother-in-law lives with us, who i adore. it's my mom. and he adores. and i just think about the reaction of -- my husband would never sit around, never even think about saying that or it wouldn't cross his mind to say that. and actually verbalize it. so, when i sit there and look at them, who are you? are you like the lonely guy in the basement playing the video games all the time? who are you speaking to? those people, the angry loners. i don't understand it.

>> yeah. these podcasters generally aappeal to the insult crowd. jd vance is trying to appeal to married heterosexual man, presumably voters i want to note we reached out to jd vance for comment. not sure what kind of comment he wants to make on that. j.d. vance attacked unmarried single woman, post menopausal women, women who own cats and women generally unless they are obedient baby makers. >> i've got 15 grandchildren. i'm going to have another wonderful grandchild in less than a month. listen, there are many women out there raising children, grandchildren. god love them. i'm very happy they are. the idea of diminishing women that have grandchildren. the idea that he is slamming

them into a place f you're post menopausal, your only purpose is to raise grandchildren. first of all, it's disrespectful to my children who are doing a great job raising my grandchildren. and by the way, jd, i'm busy. i'm busy. i got stuff to do. i got mountains to climb. i've got problems to fix. i've got contributions i want to make to this country, to my community, to my neighborhood. and to diminish women that way, clearly this guy is clueless about the women of america. and i hope the women of america, especially post menopausal grandmothers are paying attention. >> by the way, he also in this podcast talked about how great it is that vance, his very accomplished indian-american wife quit her job north in order to be supportive of him. he diminished the idea of women working, saying it's great. we just prioritize it for the economy. when it's actually better for women to just be at home, make the babies, raise the babies.

and then don't have cats apparently. oh, i don't know which voters this is appealing to, but i guess we'll find out in november. olivia troye, you know what, usha, if you need support. call us. call a sister. i'm happy to have a word with you if you need some support because i don't know about your husband. olivia troye, claire mccaskill, the rev, reverend al sharpton. thank you all very much. call me, usha. thank you all very much. call me, usha. most people call leaffilter when their gutters are clogged and they notice one of the many issues that can bring.

sometimes it's the smell of mildew when water has seeped into the interior walls. or maybe they've spotted mold in the attic. but most often it's the more obvious signs of damage like rotten soffit, fascia, or water pooling near their foundation. you can get ahead of costly damage by protecting your home's gutters today. we're in your neighborhood and ready to help. schedule your free gutter inspection today, call 833 leaffilter, or visit leaffilter.com

i came to bayview hunter's point, where there was only one pediatrician call 833 leaffilter, to serve more than 10,000 children. daniel lurie said, i'm going to help. we opened a clinic for our most vulnerable children. i have worked shoulder to shoulder with him as we have brought solutions where people thought the problem was unsolvable. daniel doesn't take excuses. he holds himself accountable. and i know that he can do it for the city of san francisco.

just seems that the economy does better under the democrats than the republicans. now, it shouldn't be that way, but if you go back -- i mean, it just seems that the economy does better under the democrats. >> the republican nominee for president wasn't wrong when he said that democrats do better with the economy. and today we have even more evidence to back up his point. this morning, we learned that inflation fell to its lowest level in more than three years. gas and grocery prices held steady. that's not just good news for your pocketbook, but it's really good news for the federal reserve, which has been looking for numbers like these to justify cutting interest rates. you know what else we found out this week, under the biden administration, the u.s. is producing the most oil ever by any nation on earth. this news is such a big f'ing deal it triggered trump, late today amid growing concerns about his campaign and mental health, donald trump held a messaging event on the economy in north carolina. he was supposed to lay out his

economic vision for the future. instead he went on for more than an hour with incoherent lies about the booming economy and lies about the economy he left for president biden. he did make vague promises about lowering inflation without saying how he would actually do that. and then he just wouldn't stop whining about how vice president harris supposedly copies him. >> when kamala lays out her fake economic plan this week, probably will be a copy of my plan, because basically that's what she does. i gave harris and biden an economic miracle and they quickly turned it into an economic nightmare. when i win the election, we will immediately begin a brand new trump economic boom. it will be a boom. many people say that the only reason the stock market is up is because people think i'm going to win. did you ever hear that? but there was one day -- couple weeks ago, when they weren't thinking that. on my first day back in the oval office, i will direct every

cabinet secretary and agency head to use every tool and authority at their disposal to defeat innation. they take credit for a lot of things they shouldn't be taking credit for. >> trump's rambling, lying messaging event was totally disconnected from reality. inflation is down, record wanl growth, record job growth and violent crime also down. objective facts that don't care about trump's feelings. vice president harris will also be in north carolina on friday to lay out her vision on the economy. according to axios, she is going to outline how she would lower costs for healthcare, housing and food for the middle class. according to axios, she wants to break with bidenomics and hit rising prices head on, making middle class economic concerns a key focus of her campaign. she was boosted by a financial times poll showing voters trust her more than trump on the economy. like trump said in 2004. maybe those voters are just realizing that the economy really does do better under democrats.

joining me now is robert rice, former secretary of labor and professor of public policy at uc berkley. i'm tempted to go on how what trump left for joe biden was the covid pandemic and the economic crater that it left our economy in, but i'm going to let you talk. you wrote a sub-stack called kamala-nomics. tell me what that is and what you think it will mean when she lays out her plans. >> well, joy, i think it will be a combination, obviously of biden-harris economics, but i think what we will probably hear about or see later this week is kamala harris going off on her own and emphasizing specifically ways to bring down the costs of food and fuel and also rent. those are the three things that are irritating consumers the most. and i think and i hope that the way she does approach these is through attacking monopolies,

because monopolies are really -- in all three of these sectors, monopolies are causing prices to say very, very high. even though overall inflation is coming down. >> right. so you talk about this a lot on your social media, that essentially you've got price gouging, that you've got big fast food chains that are going to keep the prices high and then suddenly can sell the same burger for 99 cents and food companies can cut food prices and nothing changed. so part of this is i guess the magic r word, regulation, yeah? >> well, it's r, it's regulation, absolutely. but it's also using anti-monopoly laws. now the biden administration has done it, i think, more effectively than any administration in recent years. but there's much more to do. and i think kamala harris should and hopefully will promise to give more resources to the anti-trust division of the justice department and also the

federal trade commission, both of which have been very aggressive in terms of attacking monopolies, but with more resources presumably they could do even more. >> yeah. the difference between the trump sort of way of doing the economy and biden and now harris way of doing it, it could not be more stark. donald trump, he just really believes in cutting taxes for the wealthy. extending those tax cuts to infinity. doing more tax cuts, drilling more, we're already drilling the most of any country in history. deregulating the economy so oil companies and drug companies and stuff can do whatever they want. getting rid of green energy jobs and he's saying no tax on tips, but that includes wealthy earners who could do that. on the harris side, she's talking about lowering prices on food. lowering prices on housing. lowering healthcare costs. raising the minimum wage. really popular and really important and she also says no tax on tips but for food service workers. filling in those first three

things, right, that's the key is the how. how do you lower those prices? >> well, exactly. and trump is falling back on the old republican trickle down economics. the notion if you give tax breaks to people at the top, the richest and big corporations, the benefits will trickle down eventually to everybody else. now we saw with ronald reagan and george w. bush and donald trump when he tried at the end of 2017 and 2018 to do his big tax cuts that went to the rich and big corporations, nothing trickled down. nothing. >> yeah. yeah. it never does. the idea that you can improve the economy for -- we don't talk about the poor enough. poor folks and middle class folks by giving super rich people tax cuts, they pocket the extra money, giving poorer people money, you give the poor money, they spend it all back into the economy. they go right to walmart and spend it. so it makes more sense to benefit those at the lower

economic end, right? am i doing -- i did one year of econ. >> i'll give you an "a" joy from what you just said. the reality is that if you raise the minimum wage and you provide a larger, what's called earned income tax credit, which is a bigger sort of refundable boost to a lot of people at the lower end of the income, what you're doing is putting more money into people's pockets. and as you just pointed out, if people have more money in their pockets, they're going to spend it and if they spend it, that creates more jobs and more economic activity. it's not complicated. but trickle down economics really is a hoax. it's one of the biggest hoax the republicans have ever created and they keep on doing it, even though it doesn't work. and even though people are catching on to the fact it doesn't work. >> yep. and the working class get hurt the worst and they still tend to vote republican. not all of them, but i think folks are starting to shift. robert rice, thank you very much.

and up next, donald trump's fixation with a fictional can bell, hannibal lecter, why he is calling trump the crypt keeper of the 1980s. stay with us, clarisse.

welcome to a special edition

of "lifestyles" join us for fun in the sun at the newest resort of the rich and famous. >> big right hand blocked by the champion. and the hulkster unloading, going for a slam! ♪♪ ♪ let's get physical, physical ♪ ♪ feeling, feeling ♪ >> what are you talking about willis? >> that was the quintessential 1980s for those who may be old enough to remember it, like myself. if fairness, i was in middle school for most of that. it was also the era when donald trump first rose to fame in business and tabloid circles to the peak, the peak for his at the time mostly positive, even celebrity public image. and while the rest of us moved on from the '80s, trump hasn't been able to let go of his signature era. and he's done everything he can to keep it alive.

trump biographer tim o'brien calls trump the crypt keeper for the 1980s, which was the high point of his life until he became president. adding that none of his tastes have been updated in decades. note all the gold. that could explain trump's '80s personal style, shoulder pads and extended length of the signature chrome son ties. and why random '80s celebrities like hulk hogan turn up at his events including the republican national convention on the night that trump accepted the nomination. and why we heard trump reference hannibal lecter, the character from the book "the silence of the lambs" released in the 1980s. >> did you r hear of hannibal lecter? >> has anyone seen silence of

the lambs? the late, great, hannibal lecter. >> hannibal lecter. the late, great, hannibal lecter would like to have you for dinner. >> but they're always saying, like, he mentioned hannibal lecter. it doesn't make sense. it makes a lot of sense. >> no, it doesn't. joining me now is tim o'brien, bloomberg opinion senior editor. tim, you brought in segment. why does this man keep talking about hannibal lecter. >> it's so funny. when he finished that clip, it makes sense. it does not make sense then you verbalize, no it doesn't. >> it doesn't. >> before we get into the sort of fun house of interpreting what motivates and inspires donald trump, it's worth just stepping back from it for a second and remember that this is the nominee of the republican party. and he is deeply unhinged. and he is getting worse. you know, his hearing appears to be getting worse. he's slurring his speech.

and he aspires to lead the most powerful nation on the planet from the white house. and while all this stuff is fun to poke fun at, which it should be and it is weird, which it is. it's also much more profoundly dangerous and troubling because he's not fit for office. now, having set it all up with that, part of the hannibal lecter references i think come from the fact that donald trump actually thinks that migrants seeking asylum belong in insane asylums and hannibal lecter was in an asylum and he can't separate the two. that's raw ignorance. the larger, i think, cultural touch point here is that donald trump is baked in amber. the clothing his wears. the celebrities he fawns over. the music he most closely relates to is all from the 1980s. >> yeah. >> and you know, he completed trump tower in the 1980s.

it was the first project he did apart from his father. it was the project that put him on magazine covers. it's the project that ultimately led to the book "the art of the deal." and he was celebrated as this young deal maker who could do no wrong. and on a number of occasions when he talked to me about that period of his life, he had this obsession with orson wells and citizen cane and the idea that wells' greatest movie was completed when he was still in his 20s and never really equalled it again. he had this great fear that trump tower would be the signature moment of his life. and in fact, he then went on a whole bankruptcy spree and through most of the late 1980s and 1990s he was a punch line about the excesses of the 1980s. >> yeah. >> until the "apprentice" lifted him up as a celebrity but still no one took him seriously and

then he became president. so thing on arc here is tracing the life of someone who actually never grew up and never grew beyond this one era in which he felt he was celebrated without anyone blinking. >> you know, and it's interesting you say that. he literally went to the 2001 or 2001 premiere of the hannibal lecter -- there it is. that's the premiere of the sequel with melania, who he was dating at the time. he's sort of stuck in the era when celebrities courted him, when he was part of the celebrity world before he was a pariah among the rich. but there's something about what you just said, ageing people, people who were ageing, oftentimes will retreat to a comfort space. and it's not necessarily alzheimer's, but it's part of the ageing brain where you start off talking about one thing and you end up back where you're comfortable.

you have been interviewing this guy. does he feel fully cognitive healthy. some of that could be an ageing brain. >> some is an ageing brain. let's remember his father died from alzheimer's. donald trump always lived in mortal terror of the fact that he may have the gene and may die of alzheimer's, too. i think fred trump was 86 years old when that began. and he died several years later. so, i think this is more than someone just ageing. this is somebody i think who is living in the past for the reasons you identified, which is that it's common to go back to what you know. there's another thing to really remember is that the united states is going to become a minority/majority country within the next 20 years or so. and he is standing up for a world he came from, primarily white world. >> that's right. that's right. he can't let go of it. tim o'brien, thank you. best. much appreciated. >> thank you, joy. coming up, a huge scandal somehow flying under the radar. stay with us. an alternative to pills,

voltaren is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel, which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement. (♪♪) imagine checking your own heart with medical precision from anywhere. introducing kardiamobile 6l, the fda-cleared ekg that provides six-times more heart data than any smartwatch. and it detects three of the most common arrhythmias in just 30 seconds, including atrial fibrillation, bradycardia and tachycardia. check your heart with the most advanced personal ekg outside the hospital. kardiamobile 6l is on sale now for just $99. don't wait, this offer won't last.

♪♪ some things stand the test of time, like a family car. the hartford has been insuring experienced drivers for generations. many who switch to the aarp auto insurance program from the hartford. saved an average of $577. for what's worth protecting, the hartford is here. to get your free quote, go to the buck's got your back. why do couples a sleep number smart bed? i need help with her snoring. sleep number does that. thank you. during our biggest sale of the year, save 50% on the sleep number limited edition smart bed and free delivery when you add any base.

imagine, if you well, that a bombshell report was published about president joe biden, claiming that during his administration there was a secret investigation by the justice department into whether the leader of a foreign country illegally donated millions of dollars to boost his presidential campaign. imagine this report found

investigators learned of a cash withdrawal in that foreign country, days before his inauguration, of $9,998,000, nearly identical to the amount of money the candidate had just given to his own campaign, months earlier and imagine that this investigation was eventually shut down by the president's own political appointees at the doj. there would be a nonstop media frenzy. imagine the op-ed's demanding investigations and resignations. the wall-to-wall coverage, not to mention mass outrage from republicans on the hill who would be demanding hearings and even impeachment. now what if i told you that all of that actually did happen, except it wasn't joe biden, it was donald trump? two weeks ago the washington post reported that trump's appointees in the doj shutdown investigation into whether the egyptian government secretly fondled -- funneled $10 million to his 2016 campaign. for some reason that story

which should have been a five alarm fire slid under the radar. although viewers of the show did see it here and with her friends on this network. overall coverage of a serious allegation of a bribe in the white house, in white house history, lasted perhaps a day, not to mention the fact that not one journalist, not one, asked trump about this reporting at his news conference days later. nor should we expect it to be brought up at his next news conference tomorrow. joining me now is one of the reporters who broke that story. national investigative reporter for the washington post and msnbc contributor. it is an excellent and chilling story and i think about the fact that bob menendez of new jersey has had to resign and was convicted of taking bribes from the same country, from egypt. does it surprise you number one that the investigation died into something that looks so closely like a bribe?

>> well, i can report what prosecutors and fbi agents confided to each other and to their allies of the time, which is that they had never had a money laundering or corruption case with this much disturbing, as they described it, jaw- dropping evidence. they never had one that was closed and they were very surprised to have their efforts to gain more evidence blocked. what you saw is what they wanted to do was figure out after they found out about the $10 million cash withdrawal from one of the egyptian spy accounts, five days before donald trump was inaugurated. when i found those records they wanted trump's bank records for the same time and wanted to figure out, did any of this money land with donald trump? but while the u.s. attorney, the political appointee running the shop at the time initially

expressed interest in that subpoena, she changed course after conferring with attorney general bill barr and appointees for bill barr who replaced her in that office then either stymied the investigation were shuttered it for, quote, lack of evidence. what the investigators and prosecutors said at the time was we don't have any evidence because you won't let us gather any. >> you know, it feels like things regarding the trump administration, we know what bill barr was up to as attorney general, squashing investigations that might harm donald trump and pushing those that might help him, but i feel like around donald trump is a sort of force field. i think a similar force field exists around this assassination attempt that happened. we haven't seen aggressive attempts to get his medical records, when this is one of the biggest stories that is happened involving a presidential candidate in our modern history.

we know nothing about the motivation. we know nothing about the secret service activities and responsibility. one wonders how is it possible that secret service agents allowed to trump to stand up for a photograph during an assassination attempt. whether there have been repercussions or internal investigations. you are a great reporter that covers the secret service. have there been repercussions and when will we get medical records or more info? >> security detail that works for donald trump is extremely close to him, extremely loyal to him and you saw that they deferred to him on that day based on him saying he wanted to get his shoes and he wanted to pump his fist in the air. it is very important to donald trump, the optics. he wasn't thinking like a secret service agent that there could be another shooter over the hill. agents are responsible for that. but you referred to something else, this force field, which is a little bit about the secret service, but also about investigations. donald trump is the most investigated candidate,

president, and former president in my lifetime and as far as i can tell in modern history. now he has become almost like a tectonic field. no one wants to touch him, because he accuses people of being politically motivated in investigating him and that, still, is his superpower. >> it has protected him right up till now from consequences. one of the best reporters out there, think you for taking time to be with us tonight. we will be right back. ack. of early gum disease a toothpaste from parodontax, the gum experts. i used to leak urine when i coughed, laughed or exercised. i couldn't even enjoy playing with my kids.

i leaked too. i just assumed it was normal. then we learned about bulkamid. an fda approved non-drug solution for our condition. it really works, and it lasts for years. it's been the best thing we've done for our families. call 800-983-0000 to arrange an appointment with an expert physician to determine if bulkamid is right for you. results and experiences may vary.

okay, before we go tonight a spokesperson for j.d. vance responded to our question about that podcast, where vance agreed with the post on having grandmothers help raise children. saying quote, of course he does not agree. he reacted to the first part of the sentence saying that is the whole purpose of spending time with grandparents. that is tonight's "reidout". "all in with chris hayes" starts now.