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americans on medicare. ten medications for diabetes, heart failure and certain types of cancer. >> medicare represents more than 65 million people. and so medicare has collective bargaining power, and now medicare can use that power to go toe to toe with big pharma and negotiate lower drug prices. [ cheers and applause ]
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thank you, joe. [ chanting thank you, joe ] later this week, vp harris plans to go further on her own, laying down some of what her economic policy would be if she were elected. we got a small preview, she wants a ban on price gouging at the grocery store, an acknowledgment that americans are frustrated by the cost of eggs, milk and cereal, and it's moved to the left on biden on economic policy, leaving her open to a political attack from the right. some analysts argue she should hold back, do what trump did in 2016. go lighter on policy, and bigger on vibes. we talked a lot about that yesterday. here's what bill crystal in the bullwork say. policies matter. values matter, but personal characteristics, images of the candidates, the overall spirit of the campaign, those also matter.
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a vibe war, they argue, that vp harris is currently winning. which is why trump allies are urging him to shift focus and talk policy for a change. yesterday, the campaign even set up a policy speech with lines in the teleprompter, laying out an economic agenda, including a promise to slash energy and electricity prices. but just as we predicted yesterday, trump was trump, and he veered off script to say the economy wasn't the most important subject and that attacking harris for what he called her crazy laugh and her lack of intelligence. he has got another news conference later this afternoon. how does he follow up the biden/harris medicare news? does he even try? joining us now, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard who's in bedminster, new jersey, in prince george's county, maryland, nbc news white house correspondent, mike memoli, and dispatch senior writer david drucker. vaughn, yesterday he had this
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economic policy speech, light on the economics, today he's holding a press conference. what's it about? >> reporter: right. and yesterday at that event in north carolina, he said he was told that the economy was the major, most important issue, but he was not so sure of that himself. he did talk some policy around the economy. he said cutting electricity prices in half, though not articulating exactly in a details form how he would go about that. today, 24 hours later, we expect him in front of his bedminster club to talk more about the economy and the reason we believe that to be the case is because this time he has what you can call some props. outside at a table that we just caught our eye on were some boxes of cereal as well as some bread, some coffee, and so i think the point that you made in your introduction there, we can expect to hear donald trump at least point and reference the prices of grocery items over the course of the last year.
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he is dealing with the reality at the same time, katy, that two years ago, inflation was at 7.5, 8%, and is now down to under 3%. this is sort of where for donald trump, you know, while he is keen on going on the personal attacks, and he's being urged to focus on policy, some of the day that points are not quite as harsh as they were, though not perfect, as harsh as they were a couple of years ago for him, and the trajectory is going down on that front. this is really kind of a complicated two and a half months ahead in terms of messaging for a candidate, who frankly doesn't tend to focus on one theme or one focus point. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. this appearance today by vp harris and president biden, their first official appearance together for a political event since he decided to step aside, there was a whole lot of warmth in the room between the two of them. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, katy. i mean, you just think about what an abrupt and historic shift we've seen in democratic
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politics in less than a month. president biden dropping out of the race, and vice president harris, stepping up and senator walz joining the attack. the surge in enthusiasm, the surge in fundraising. we have seen vice president harris pick up a point or two in battleground states from where president biden had been. the harris campaign knows still just how close this election is going to be in these states and they know how important this delicate handoff still needs to be treated. that's why it was so important to have this moment today, to see them talking about not just a major policy victory, one they achieved together, the president seeing through the policy. the vice president casting the tie breaking vote to lower prescription drug prices but to continue to bring back into the democratic fold some of the democrats, speaking with great praise and warmth about the man she has served in the white house the last four years.
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let's listen to what she had to say as she handed it off to the president today. >> few leaders in our nation have done more on so many issues, including to expand access to affordable health care than joe biden. and today we take the next step, thank you, joe, forward in our fight. [ chanting thank you, joe ] >> reporter: now, you know, in some ways, katy, you can understand why this moment is a bit bittersweet for the president, seeing this kind of energy, enthusiasm and the praise for him now when just in the last few weeks he was still battling against his own party to try to stay on the ticket. this was also a preview of sorts of what we're going to see at the democratic convention on monday when we will hear from president biden. we're told that there will be some significant tributes to him before they move forward and look to the future of a potential harris/walz administration. >> can i ask you a little bit
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more about policy from kamala harris. you know, she really hasn't said all that much about what she intends. she is going to do so a little bit more tomorrow, but there are a lot of folks out there that are telling her not to go overboard. what's your sense from the campaign? the american public wants to know what kind of president she's going to be. >> reporter: this event itself is an example of the ways she can run on and take credit for some of the biden achievements and still take time in elucidating what she might do going forward. you heard president biden talking about what is still left to be done, and what she might take up the mantle of. it's interesting, in the little we're hearing so far what she's going to outline tomorrow, she's taking on some of the populist pitch that president biden has also done. we have heard him talk about shrinkflation, the fact that a snickers bar is in a smaller wrapper but the company is charging the same amount. she wants to go after, for
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instance, grocery stores who were jacking up prices beyond what probably was justified by the cost of inflation, and so i think as we heard this event today talking about the accomplishments, it's as much about -- less about policy as it is about values, whose side are you on, who are you fighting for. today it was in the context of fighting big pharma to lower drug prices, and moving forward to the extent that we hear from the vice president about policy. it's going to be continuing to take the side of the ordinary american, the middle class against larger corporations, corporations that are trying to take advantage of the consumer. >> talking about shrinkflation, donald trump brought out tic tacs yesterday, because a lot of people remember donald trump most for the "access hollywood" tape. i want to play some sound from j.d. vance, for just a lot of interviews that he has given in the past. i'm going to play two more that were surfaced, both, again
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regarding women. >> when the big corporations come against you for passing abortion restrictions, when corporations are so desperate for cheap labor that they don't want people to parent children, she's right to say that abortion restrictions are bad for business. we should be for abortion restrictions, even if they are bad for business. >> but it makes him a much better human being to have exposure to his grandparents. and the everyday on this, by the way, is super clear. >> that's the whole purpose of the post menopausal female in theory. let me ask you a question, not knowing the answer. >> please. >> when your child was born, did your in-laws, and particularly your mother-in-law show up in some huge way? >> she lived with us for a year. >> right. >> i didn't know the answer to that. because there's this weird unadvertised feature of marrying an indian woman. >> it's in some ways the most
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transgressive thing i have every done against the hyper neo liberal approach. >> vance is responding to the last interview, the last podcast when he talks about his mother-in-law. he says the media is dishonestly putting words in j.d.'s mouth, of course he does not agree with what the coach said. j.d. reached the first part of the sentence assuming he was going to say that's the whole purpose of spending time with grandparents. it's a disgrace, the media is lying about j.d. instead of holding kamala harris responsible for her policies that cause sky high prices on groceries, a disaster at the border, and a drug overdose epidemic. you put that with the abortion stuff, the childless cat ladies, it kind of in totality seems like j.d. vance is saying women are best suited for child care, to have basic and to take care
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of kids. that's the read in on multiple interviews he has done over a large period of time. >> it's hard to tell sometimes if he's just agreeing with the host or really putting forth policy prescriptions or a set of values. obviously he has been married to a very successful lawyer. she, until recently, was working just like all of us. and so he hasn't necessarily lived his life in ways he has talked about male/female relations. i think a lot of this has to do with the fact that when you run for president or vice president, there is a brighter light on all of the things you have said and done over the years, and j.d. vance at just under 40 years old is really the first candidate at this level we have had with a big huge digital footprint, social media footprint, and because of his memoir, reams of interviews to go through.
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you know, whereas years ago you wouldn't have the social media footprint, and with a lot of older candidates, even if they have been around, they haven't been as active on social media, given interviews on podcasts. where it's a problem for the trump campaign, i don't think as much necessarily what j.d. vance is saying or has said, it's just that it's a distraction from the message. and j.d. vance was always the running mate you pick. and look, there's some value to his talents, and i expect him to do quite well on the debate stage. whether he wins or not is a different story. he was the pick for trump when donald trump was running three to five points ahead in key battle grounds and a few points ahead nationally. it's not necessarily a complementary pick that a mike pence was or that a dug burgum would have been when you're competing for persuadable suburban voters. >> what do you make of what trump allies are telling him
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publicly, ditch personality and stick to policy. this idea that his schtick, donald trump rambling at rallies is no longer interesting. it is bringing out true believers, somebody likened going to a trump rally is going to a grateful dead concert, the same people are going to the rallies over and over again. it's not bringing anybody in any longer, and they're urging him to talk about policy. >> this has been a feature of donald trump's rallies for nearly the decade he has been holding them. part of the problem he may be having on the front is he's not new anymore. when he was doing it in 2016, nobody had seen anything like it. four years later, he was energetic, on the campaign trail more than joe biden. it wasn't as old as it's become. politicians tend to stick with what's work until it doesn't.
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trying to get donald trump to change his tune or change his style is going to be a very difficult task. you can do it for a couple of weeks at a time here and there. he has a hard time doing it for length of time, and now that he's running against someone 20 years younger, energetic, doing a better job of being the change candidate. he's not wearing as well, and yet, he's in a position to win the election. this is still so close. >> yeah, it's very close. i don't know if he can do it for a few weeks. he can do it for a few sentences at a time on the teleprompter. david, i don't know where you are, but i'm going to wait for my invite. i'm going to look at my phone after this interview, and wait for my invite to whatever this beautiful property, wherever you are, because it's gorgeous and i would like to be there right now. david drucker, thank you very much. and mike memoli, appreciate it. >> thanks, katy. joining us now, democratic congressman, dan kildee who represents the state of michigan. all right, buddy, congressman,
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what do you think of how things are going? are you high on the vibes? >> of course the vibe is really good. that's for sure, but the policies actually matter, and i heard the conversation you were having, should we dive in on policy. yes, we should. but as mike memoli was saying, the policies are a reflection of our values. i think we're in a good position. this election is far from over, but if we lean in, the vibe is what it is. donald trump's schtick is getting old. but people seem energized by kamala harris, but it's the policies. it's the fact that, for example, she's willing to take on big corporations who are gouging americans who are going to the grocery store, having trouble making ends meet. we have policies that work, bringing down the cost of health care. what trump represents is a throw back to the 1950s and tax policy that is going to reward people at the stop. >> how does a federal ban on
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gouging at the grocery store work? how do you write that? does it pass congress? >> i hope it does. if we have a democratic congress, which i think we have a good shot at getting, these sorts of policies can move forward. you recall, it wasn't that long ago, that we saw an effort to go after price gouging at the gas pump, when during the pandemic, the oil companies were jacking up prices because they felt like they could get away with it. one of the ways we go after gouging is go after the root causes. what i expect to hear from vice president harris is some of those specifics. for example, the mergers and acquisitions that are eliminating competition in the marketplace is one of the things that's driving up prices. we need to take that on. >> what do you want to hear tomorrow, we hear about child care, child tax credit, paid parental leave, something all americans can access. we talked a lot about that on this show. it keeps getting put into bills. then when the bills need to be
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stripped or money needs to be taken out of it, that's the first thing to go. she's saying that this is a priority for her. does congress continue to have it as a priority, when all evidence in the past is pointed to congress not really making it a priority. well, that's why it matters who leads congress. that's why it will make a difference if hakeem jeffries is a speaker of the house of representatives. we'll move legislation that deals with these issues. like, for example, the cost of housing. this is an issue that i think the vice president can lean into. it's sort of the next big thing on the agenda from my perspective. when we invest in affordable housing, we invest in family wealth and equity that has an economic value way downstream. when we invest in children through the child tax credit. this used to be a bipartisan issue. what we know about the child tax credit is that it doesn't cost what we put into it because it
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pays society back with much better outcomes for those kids. we lifted half the children out of poverty with the child tax credit. that's what i'm hoping to see, a focus on families, kitchen table issues. a particular focus on housing i think would be a big step in the right direction. it helps people across the economic spectrum. >> i know j.d. vance didn't vote for the child tax credit, skipped that vote, but he's going out publicly saying he's for it. maybe there's common ground among democrats and republicans going forward. >> well, there may be common ground with rhetoric, but with j.d. vance and donald trump, they both say a lot of things, but when they have a chance to actually do something about it, they've got their hands in their pockets, and they're looking at their shoes. they have never delivered. they have never really delivered. >> congressman dan kildee, thank you very much, appreciate it. still ahead, inflation reached the lowest level in three years in july, what this means for your wallet, and how it could influence the presidential race.
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what a powerful group of conservative christians is doing to quietly lay the ground work for a fight to restrict access to ivv. >> and five people have been charged in connection with the overdose death of matthew perry, what we are learning about the investigation and those charged. we're back in 90 seconds. if if
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. policy makers and top economists say the u.s. has turned the corner when it comes to inflation. now it's time to focus on
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everything else, like the labor market, which is cooling, and housing prices which are still stubbornly high depending on where you live, and delinquency which is at the highest level since the peak of covid-19 lockdowns. while none of these factors point to an oncoming recession, it has the potential of persuading voters, and together present signs of economic stress that will be hard to ignore. joining us now, cnbc analyst, and ifia ceo, did i get that right? that's hard. we're going to leave that aside. let's talk about these other indicators. credit card debt, what's going on? >> it's an extremely high for low income families who have been forced to stretch their dollars by borrowing money because inflation up until recently has been unusually lie. that's been a high. and we're near levels, close to recession on credit card
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delinquencies. the economy is holding up. retail sales was stronger than expected. >> how do you square that circle? >> it goes by income group really. most folks within this economy are doing reasonably well, and you can see that in travel, in leisure, in hospitality. if you have been to an airport, they're packed. people are traveling and we're past the revenge travel phase in the post pandemic, and people are still moving around. middle and lower income families are struggling more than others. but having said that, bottom 10% of the wage earners have garnered more increases than the top 10%, relatively speaking. >> do you expect it to level out at some point? >> it has been leveling out, and wages broadly speaking are running ahead of inflation. inflation is below 3%. this in a post pandemic environment is about as good as it gets. >> can i ask you about housing?
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>> sure. >> the fed has a meeting next month in september. the expectation is they're going to lower rates, a quarter or half of a percentage point, that's a big deal. >> mortgage rates have come down to 6 1/2% on average. >> still crazy high. >> in 1981, they were 14, 15, 16%. if you're old enough to remember that experience, they're not that high. most people who have grown up in a 0 interest rate environment, or a 2, 3% mortgage are not going to refinance at 6%. prices are 40% above. >> a lot of people with those mortgages are not selling. >> we have a supply problem more than a demand problem. we're about 5 to 6 million units short in terms of the housing supply relative to demand, and that's been what has pushed prices up dramatically in the last several years. >> "axios" has an interesting new poll. it's an online survey that says that voters see harris as more hopeful on the economy than
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biden, which is huge because -- not biden, trump. >> both, actually. >> which is huge because usually the republican gets credit for the economy, and trump had been getting credit for the economy. >> what's interesting about the trump economy prior to the pandemic, if you look at economic growth and job growth during the first three years of the trump presidency, almost identical to the last three years of the obama presidency. there was no difference. the clinton years were considerably stronger, and the biden years have been considerably stronger in job growth and gdp growth. it is odd that president biden didn't get credit for enacting pieces of legislation, the chips and science act, the inflation reduction act, increasing economic growth beyond what they thought was the potentially. and inflation has come down from 9.2%. we had a shock in the pandemic, domestically and globally, in many cases it's amazing we are where we are. most economists did not expect us to be in this position at this time. >> there's a lot of emotional
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ptsd from it, and it is still shocking going to the grocery store and finding you have to pay $8 for berries. if you have children, that is a shocking thing to have to spend money on. >> mine are grown. so it's a different set of costs, college, prices at the grocery store are 20 to 25% higher than they were pre-pandemic. profit margins, which is something being targeted now are back where they were pre-pandemic levels about 2%. >> kamala harris wants to ban gouging. ron isana, thank you very much. what conservative christians are doing to lay the ground work for ivf restrictions. >> and mediators are back in doha, trying to broker a cease fire deal to end the war in gaza. what we know so far about the high stakes of negotiations. iat. ♪ ♪ and i am lost and i can't ♪
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donald trump and republican lawmakers may be publicly backing away from unpopular abortion politics, but conservative christian activists
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are playing the long game. "the new york times" reports battalions of antiabortion groups across the country are planting seeds for their ultimate goal of ending abortion and the use of ivf, and some of these seeds are easier to spot than others. quote, as they see it, their challenge spans generations, not simply a single political cycle and their approach, including controlling regulatory language, state party platforms and the definition of when life begins, reflects an incremental strategy similar to the one activists used for decades to eventually overturn roe v. wade. joining us now, "new york times" journalist covering faith and politics, elizabeth dius. it's good to have you. explain what you're seeing. >> so many people were surprised when roe was overturned, and part of that is because the seeds the conservative christians were planting for so many years about their strategy to do that were hard to spot, especially at the early stages.
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right? that was a 40, 50-year fight to eventually overturn roe, and it started with small things. now, even though we're watching their biggest ally, former president donald trump, back away from them, he knows how completely unpopular restrictions on ivf especially is, but even if they're losing that ally, they are still in small ways, in key areas, thinking about this long game, and what kind of regulations, restrictions might they want to see in, say, ten, 20 years down the line. >> i'm sorry. what might they be doing now with a -- if donald trump is elected president, what do they think they can do, if they can't get to the ultimate goal in the single political cycle as they argue, what sort of seeds will they plant with the donald trump presidency? >> sure. well, i have been hearing a lot about regulations that they want to pass, things like reporting requirements at the department of health and human services,
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for various components of the ivf procedure. i have been hearing talk of regulations, even at like the environmental protection agency and other agencies. these things that can start, sort of bureaucratic ways that people not pay attention to rule number whatever that's coming from a certain department. but certainly they know that they can staff the administration with allies like they were able to do the first administration of his. and can really put them in place when they're thinking about what kinds of change they would want to see after his term, and even if he doesn't win, right, they're thinking about mobilizing evangelicals, for example, to support restrictions on ivf, which they haven't done before. we saw that for the first time this summer at the southern baptist convention, for example. >> yeah, and they could potentially use that, as you write, to convince politicians that there are a enough people out there that they should work
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on an agenda that takes banning ivf into account. you know, if donald trump gets elected, there is this talk that he could potentially have two supreme court justices to nominate, that you could see clarence thomas and samuel alito step down and allow him to nominate two people that are much younger and will hold those rules for much longer. do these activists have judges in mind? do they have people that they would want to see nominated to the supreme court? >> well, one of the most effective things that they were able to do the first time around in 2016 during donald trump's campaign was to put in place lists of judges they would want to see, and now, you know, that was such a surprise back then when he actually won, but they're able to make these lists now and plan ahead, or they can be ready to go. >> elizabeth dias, thank you very much, and thank you for bringing your reporting. i appreciate it. we all appreciate it. coming up, a new round of
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negotiations continued. hamas reiterated they are not participating as they agreed to a u.s.-backed deal last month. joining us from tel aviv is nbc
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news international correspondent daniel hamonjan. what do we know happened today? >> reporter: according to john kirby, it's off to a promising start. doesn't necessarily mean they will be completely absent from the process. they have an office in doha. once the mediators from qatar, from egypt sit with the israelis, see what their position ten months in is, see if there's movement, the messages can be relayed to hamas. hamas, as you said, so they have already agreed to the agreement. right now, after ten months, it's a question of a framework, a mechanism by which to implement that agreement and figuring out a time line. hamas has also signalled that if they see or perceive some kind of commitment by israel that they will reengage. there are some sticking points
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for israel. it's the corridor, strip of land between gaza and egypt, and israel's concern is that hamas will use the area to go back to smuggling weapons. there's also the concern of what they say is unvetted movement of palestinians back in the north. there are also other sticking points, the number of palestinian prisoners that will be released in exchange for the hostages and who they will be. on that note, i just want to highlight one fact that doesn't often make headlines. since october 7th, thousands of palestinians have been arrested and put in administrative detention in the west bank. what does that mean? it means held without trial, without charge, and indefinitely. according to the palestinian authority, israel has done this to amass bargaining chips, and here we are now. >> thank you. still ahead, hurricane ernesto continues to intensify as it heads towards bermuda.
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hour winds and a foot of expected rainfall. joining us from bermuda is nbc news correspondent steven romo. what's it like there? >> reporter: yeah, katy, we're starting to get the rain, the very outer most rain bands have hit. it's actually lightened up a little bit right now. we did get downpour a little bit ago, and preparations are underway. they have cleared out some of the marinas, one vessel remains over here. on our way through the area, we saw they have very strong building standards here. most of the structures we saw made from concrete, but surprisingly have not seen a lot of boarded up windows as we made our way in. talking to tourists, many of them are very upset that they have planned their trips to happen to coincide with ernesto, trying to figure out if they should make their way back. the storm expected to come close to bermuda, maybe headed to the west. that's expected on saturday. people are trying to figure out
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if they should leave before then or try to get flights immediately after. we heard from local governments that they are cutting back on services, stopping public transportation, pulling life guards off beaches, advising people not to get in the water. bermuda does know hurricanes and they are certainly taking this one seriously, katy. >> thank you very much. and five people have been charged in connection with the accidental overdose death of matthew perry last year. they include two doctors, his live-in personal assistant, a known narcotics distributor, and a dealer referred to see the ketamine queen. joining us now is nbc news correspondent steve patterson from los angeles. steve, tell us more. >> reporter: katy, more than happy to get into the numbers with you here. 18 counts listed in this criminal indictment, including the most serious of which, distribution of ketamine resulting in death. there are 78 overt acts listed in this complaint. all of them prosecutors say directly leading to perry's
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death, including excruciating detail on injection dates and times, on distribution messages, on text messages about how to cover it all up. and all of this, again, including those five people, including two medical professionals, people that had to earn coats and mds near their names by taking an oath to never harm anybody, here is prosecutors on why exactly they say they did it. taking advantage of this window, listen. >> these defendants took advantage of mr. perry's addiction issues to enrich themselves. they knew what they were doing was wrong, they knew what they were doing was risking great danger to mr. perry, but they did it anyways. >> one doctor accused of distributing 20 viles of ketamine to perry for $50,000. the ketamine queen accused of distributing 50 viles of ketamine to perry. the doctors have a text message
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where in the documents one is quoted as saying, quote, i wonder how much this moron will pay, let's find out. hard to hear, i think, katy. we're hearing that two, including the ketamine queen, one of the medical doctors, will be in court for a first appearance later today, and we'll know more after that. >> that's really sick. steve patterson, thank you very much. still ahead, olympic gynast jordan chiles is speaking out after having her bronze medal stripped away. what she says she will do next. and to fight heartburn, why take 10 antacids throughout the day when you can take 1 prilosec. for easier heartburn relief, one beats ten. prilosec otc. one pill. 24 hours. zero heartburn.
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jordan chiles is talking today for the first time since learning she will have to return an olympic bronze medal, talking in public at least. in a statement posted to instagram chiles said that the decision felt unjust, and she criticized the racially driven attack she's received on social media throughout the controversy. romaniaicize says it will prepare a small ceremony for -- who will receive that medal tomorrow. joining us now emilie ikeda. i watched this in realtime. i saw the romanian gymnast was in third place and then jordan chiles coach made an inquiry, said you didn't score this right, and they took it back and they gave jordan chiles the bronze. and now i just don't understand
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how one country can appeal and produce information and then the second country can't say, hold on, we have information that proves they were wrong. and yet the ioc says, no, we're not going to do anything about that. >> i think the really aggravating thing about this is that they're not even taking issue with the difficulty score. they're taking issue with when the u.s. coach appealed. it was 40 seconds over the top, but then the u.s. team says they have video evidence that shows the appeal was made within the 1 minute deadline. but jordan chiles said she was removing herself from social media a couple days ago dealing with the stunning loss being stripped of her bronze medal and she took instagram today dealing with the overwhelming support from people but also dealing with the nasty rhetoric. in a statement writing in part the unprompted racially driven attacks on social media are wrong and extremely hurtful.
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i've poured my heart and soul into this sport and i'm so proud to represent my country. she goes onto say i'm now confronted with one the most challenging moments in my career. i believe at the end of this journey the people in control will do the right thing. kind of insinuating she's gearing up for a fight. >> how are they having this fight? who are they taking it to? >> they're now going to go an even higher national entity. i think one of the thing u.s. olympic officials are starting to give us insight into is even leading up to the court of arbitration for sport, they say they actually casted contacting the wrong e-mail address, erroneous e-mail addresses, so the u.s. wasn't made aware of some of things within 24 hours of the actual appeal. they say it deprived them of ne evidence. remember we talked about that time stamped video evidence they submitted after the fact because
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the whole initial thing was so rushed. >> i hate this. i think she's so awesome. she's got such a vibrant personality, she's so fun to watch, and the medal ceremony was beautiful. i just -- i hate the u.s. can't present their own evidence. i think it's evidently unfair. >> and romania is hold their ceremony tomorrow. >> she should keep the medal. the democraticl convention begins just four days from now. tens of thousands of visitors are expected to descend upon chicago and not for the democratic party. chicago police say they're preparing for large scale protests from israel -- from the israel conflict in gaza. joining us now in chicago is nbc news correspondent shaquil bruster. pro-palestinian protesters is what i was trying to say there. shaq, what's it like? >> reporter: well, katie, i talked to the superintendent of chicago's police department, and their message is they are ready for this. they acknowledged this is going to be a giant undertaking, but they say this is something the department has been preparing
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for the past two years. you can see outside the united center there's fencing going up. there are tabletop exercises that we watched take place this week. listen to a bit of my conversation with chicago's top cop. >> our officers are trained to understand one thing. if our -- if people come here to protest peacefully, exercise their first amendment rights, our officers are going to not only allow them to do it but to protect them while they're doing it. but what our officers are not going to allow. we're not going to allow someone to come to our city and destroy it. so acts of violence, acts of vandalism will not be tolerated in this city. >> reporter: of course looming over the actual convention are those massive protests that are expected. according to what we've been hearing in court as legal battles have been taking place, the biggest protest is scheduled for monday. organizers say they're expecting
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20 to 25,000 people at the start of the convention. >> shaq bruster, shaq, thank you very much. again, the dnc starts on monday. that's going to do it for me today. "deadline white house" starts right now. hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. call it a victory lap or a love fest, a palate cleanser. after donald trump's grievance filled quote-unquote economic address yesterday, but today was president joe biden and vice president kamala harris who were seen bounding onto a stage in maryland for their first joint appearance since president joe biden dropped out of the race and endorsed his number 2, vice president kamala harris. they were there to tout what is being billed as, quote, a crowning achievement of the biden administration after years of battling with the pharmaceutical industry. it is the culmination of a yearlong effort to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies over some of

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