inflation we suffered in the post pandemic world is it's a very complex phenomenon that does not just have one cause. trying to explain that to people when they're feeling that pain becomes very difficult. where biden did not do that. vice president harris has articulated a simpler, more digestible way of treating this problem than i think the biden administration. >> it's still the biden/harris agenda and the administration and she and joe biden still get blamed for this. she's trying to get around that. >> she does have a chance to separate that. and in the polling, she has. she's come close to donald trump taking some online surveys on the economy. donald trump enjoyed a really big lead on the economy, and kamala harris has eaten into that. a mayoral candidate in new york city, he was the one who said the rent was too damn high. the other things that stood out to us were private equity, getting into housing.

she talked about that. >> she also talked about algorithm pricing that large scale landlords use to presumably set prices across the board. >> these are things happening underneath it all that people don't realize. they see that the prices are high. they don't understand why they're so high. private equity is buying things up. it's because of those algorithms you're talking about. the thing that got a big line, a big cheer from that crowd there was something that's much more direct and easier to understand, the child tax credit is no longer there. she wants to bring it back, but not only that, she wants to make it $6,000, a giant number for the first year of your child's life. >> it's interesting because j.d. vance has talked about this issues as well. >> he skipped the vote. >> welcome to politics, and welcome to campaigning, especially. >> if you're going to talk about wanting it, you got to show up and do it. >> absolutely. no doubt about that. he's going to continue to talk about it, but what we don't know is that the j.d. vance policy, regardless of the senate vote or

not or is that the donald trump policy which is much more significant. >> he's never shown inclination toward it. it was done during the pandemic. it lifted 50% of children out of poverty. >> republicans took the child tax credit off the table. >> 100%. >> how do republicans run on wanting the child tax credit? >> it's always a new day in politics. what happened yesterday doesn't necessarily -- how many times have you said past performance doesn't tell you about future earnings. >> future results. >> it does tell you about past performance. let's bring in yamiche alcindor, washington correspondent, she's down there in raleigh, north carolina. tell me what it's like in that room? >> reporter: people here were really really excited to see vice president harris. of course it's north carolina, a state that she wants to make a battleground, and she can possibly be more competitive, than president biden would have been, given the fact that he lost his stake in 2020, and in the room, there are a lot of lines here. people chanting things like, we

won't go back, and the idea, also, clapping about when she was talking about putting the middle class at the center of her campaign. she said she wanted to create an opportunity economy, and wanted to make sure that helping and building the middle class is a principle of her campaign and her presidency. she laid out a lot of policy here, but she also talked about her personal connections to why she thinks she's policies she's laying out are important. she talks about her mom a bit. and said her mom saved more than a decade to buy her home, and she remembers seeing the excitement in her mother's eyes when she was a teenager, and saying i worked at mcdonald's because i was trying to get spending money. there were people working at mcdonald's supporting their whole families. i'm making these policies because i understand every day americans who are financially struggling. she laid out policy proposals, including providing $25,000 as a down payment assistance for

first time home buyers, talking about the idea of cutting taxes for middle and low income americans. we also know she's talking about things like going after corporate landlords and trying to make it so key tax benefits wall street firms get when they buy a whole block in a neighborhood, she wants to do away with those things. we heard specific policy proposals and she previewed there's more to come here. this is the first phase. she's going to have other ways to talk about this and other things to lay out to the american people. and of course she went after former president donald trump saying that of course he was here in north carolina this week laying out an economic policy. she said, look, he did a lot of stuff, but she believes that he's really looking out for the elite, the rich, not looking out for every day people. she said, you can really understand who someone cares about when it goes to who they're looking out for. and she said, i'm going to be looking out for the middle class. definitely a preview here of more to come from the vice president, but definitely also

trying to connect with the crowd here, and really lay out for the american people across the country what her plans would be. katy. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you very much. let's now go to nbc news business and data correspondent, brian cheung. what stood out to you? >> i mean, look, when we talk about the overall planned proposals here, a lot of things have to go to congress, the child tax credit, the $40 billion to improve the amount of housing supply in this country, but one thing she might not have to get congressional support to do is the price gouging bid. she wants to empower the federal trade commission, the state attorneys general to do that. she could in theory do that on day one. the outlines are unclear, using the state attorneys general to investigate and impose strict penalties on companies. what meets the standard of price gouging remains to be seen. there are so many different factors that go into the decision for how a company puts a label on their product for how

much it's going to cost. now, on the housing supply of things, this is very interesting because we all do know that home prices are a substantial cost for americans, when you consider that even the recent inflation report that we just got earlier this week showed that 90% of the inflation that we saw in the month of july was due to housing costs. yes, this is the biggest piece of the puzzle on the overall picture on inflation. in order to make the costs go down, not just the $25,000 in down payment assistance that's going to do it. great if you get the assistance. there are no available homes to buy. then it's still really not helping you get into your first home. that's the reason why that 3 million new homes supply goal that she wants to have, which could be fairly ambitious is important in trying to get the home costs down. this is a supply and demand driven industry. if you don't have the supply, prices will remain high, and it takes a lot of time to build homes. that could take years in some cases. >> we have been talking about it, if you have to cut through

zoning laws and regulations. brian cheung, thank you very much. university of michigan professor of economics and public policy, elections analyst, david wasserman, and national affairs correspondent at the nation john nichols. who do you believe she was speaking to today? does it go beyond raleigh, north carolina? >> she's speaking to people across the country. i was interested in the conversation you had with some other wise folks, where they were talking about -- >> i know you're not talking about ron insana and doug hie? >> i totally am. what i'm saying is they were talking about comparing harris to biden, looking for those small areas of difference or maybe even bigger areas of difference, i would tell you right now, as i travel around the country and i just did a five-state drive through the upper midwest, people aren't talking that way. they're talking about harris versus trump, and what they're hearing from trump is a very

confused, very, you know, kind of throw something at the wall today, throw something else tomorrow, a lot of talk about immigration. a lot of stuff about other stuff. harris was laser focused on economics. obviously this was her economics speech. but if she keeps on this, this is something that an awfully lot of americans connect to, focusing on one quick element of it. that notion of having a job that pays a living wage, right, that you can actually, you know, get by on. i noticed today, just this afternoon as the speech was on, the united auto workers union, and other unions were live tweeting the vice president's speech. so they were like amplifying it out to their members. that hasn't happened much in recent years. it's a very very good sign that harris is making a connection with the people that she needs to be connected with. the last thing i'll say is this, the reference to housing is a huge deal, not nearly for people

looking for a house, it is a huge deal for parents and for grandparents, who are looking at whether their family can stay in the same place, whether their kids can buy a house in the town where they live. the more she boroughs into these tissues, these specifics, the more she connects with people at a real level. >> there's a lot of overlap. if you can buy a house in the same town as your parents, grandparents, you have help with child care. you can have kids more easily. it eases the pain that you feel financially by having children. i mean, the single biggest cost in having a kid, beyond them eating blueberries, which complain about a lot obviously is child care, how much it costs to send them today care when they're little, how much it costs to have help at home, how much it costs to feed them at school. it's expensive to get child care in this country. can i ask you, quickly, john, about the teamsters? i know there's a lot of teamsters leaders who are

begging the union head to make an endorsement. what's going on with them? >> there's a lot going on. the head of the teamsters, sean o'brien, just the other day had a really stark critique of donald trump's appearance with elon musk. right, and where they were sort of joking about firing workers. and so the union actually had some very critical statements on social media about trump. that's a big deal. because i think they are starting to delineate there. the other thing is the black caucus of the teamsters, a substantial portion of the membership, just stepped out and endorsed kamala harris. obviously that doesn't speak for the whole union, but that speaks for a portion there. i think there's a lot of movement here. the question, of course, is, you know, when do you get kamala harris talking to the teamsters leadership directly? when does she go to talk to them? when perhaps does the teamsters leader come to this convention in chicago and speak? we don't know where that stands.

that's the point where the things could come together. if i had to bet, what i would tell you this, i doubt very much that the teamsters will endorse donald trump is this i think there is at least some evidence that they could endorse the democrats, and so that's kind of where things stand now, whether there is an endorsement of the democrats or whether the union decides to stand down. if they do endorse the democratic ticket, that really designed of closes the circle on major labor unions. and would be a huge deal for harris and biden or harris and walz. >> justin, in looking at what she's proposing, obviously this is her wish list. it's what she wants to do. there are a lot of constraints that will be surrounding her if she's president. that include the heavy lift of getting something through congress. especially if congress is not all within democratic control. what do you see for what she just proposed as the most doable? >> i think there's probably a lot of energy around trying to

do something around housing. her policy position there, house prices are too high, there's too many buyers chasing too few houses. giving more buyers more money doesn't help but finding ways and creating more houses does. it's remarkably close to a bipartisan position. maybe not bipartisan with trump world, but certainly with conservative republicans and so that's something i think she can really pretty easily get done. >> are you australian, justin? >> i am, mate. >> i wanted to make sure you're not from new zealand, i don't want to mix up a kiwi with an aussie. >> you also wouldn't want to invite me back. >> this is a question i learned about when i was thinking about buying a house myself. part of the reason why housing is expensive in new york city is there's retirement funds. the australian retirement fund boys up properties in new york

city, single family homes, and i find that so interesting and hard to wrap my mind around is that the priority is not for people living here. we're not just fighting with each other for housing, we're fighting with a country buying up our properties for their retirement fund? >> cut a whole lot of grief here. housing is a very important asset, and i'm going to defend it somewhat, which is it can be hard to be able to get the down payment and get a new house built. if investors are going to be the ones who do it, then renting is an onramp into housing. kamala harris described in that speech her own family had used rentals that way, you know, when these big investment funds are buying up housing, they're not leaving it empty. they're renting it out to new yorkers, and the number of places in new york doesn't change. investors can be part of the solution here, which is we need

more houses. if they're willing to build them, that's going to ease a lot of constraints we face. >> i'm sorry to target you with that just because of your asset. i appreciate the answer. dave, we're looking at who she's speaking to, the polling is suggesting that there's a big divide between women and men, that donald trump is making real end roads with men that maybe used to be a fan of the democratic party, and that kamala harris is just running up the numbers when it comes to women. like this, cut through the gender divide. >> time will tell. what we know is the reason why donald trump has been winning higher shares of hispanic voters, black voters, and younger voters has been a larger gender divide, where he's winning largely shares of men, basically around the side by side comparison of the economy. and when you look at the

economic data, what's really gotten in the way of more favorable views towards the economy is interest rates, and that's why i think. what the fed does this fall is going to be pretty significant for how he would convince voters to stay the course and adopt her plan. it's similar populism, but amazing what a difference a new messenger bring. in our survey, trump had a 6 point lead on cost of living and getting inflation under control. joe biden had a 20 point deficit on that question in may. >> it's not so much about policy, it's more about personality, about the packaging than it is about the policy. >> well, and also voters are suddenly curious about what democrats have to offer because they have a new candidate.

voters were tuning biden and his ads out. and her message in her ad of only working one job to get ahead, you know, that resonates, but the other factor here, we've talked about housing costs, but health care costs as well. and kamala harris had a 13-point advantage on dealing with health care on this question. obviously democrats are going to be pointing towards trump's plan to let obama care subsidies expire at the end of 2025. i'll be curious what the medicaid advantage rate cut that's supposed to go in effect in october has an effect on seniors' views toward the cost of health care. >> ron, doug, you have been sitting around for so much time. i'm going to give you the last word on this subject. >> well, i usually agree with dave wasserman, this is also the case. we talked about hispanic voters,

one of the things, since this was in north carolina. hispanic voters get left behind, especially in north carolina, we focus a lot on the upper class, white voters in the research triangle park area. of course, we talk a lot about african-american voters in the state, of course. the hispanic population is growing pretty quickly, very quickly in north carolina. they're going to be a bigger factor this year. and we're going to see democrats and republicans spending more on hispanic media and so forth because of that. they're gettable for trump. if not a majority, an outsized population, and trying to do that with african-american males as well. >> i would say the vice president put forth an ambitious agenda on the economic policy front that may or may not pass. it draws a very distinct and clear contrast between her and donald trump in the way in which they would go about helping working families dealing with higher prices, health care, child care, and that may resonate more than i think anybody realizes, even though donald trump has called it a communist plan, that probably

won't resonate with people. >> ron insana, thank you very much, doug hie, thank you as well. dave wasserman, justin wolfers, tom nichols. take a look at the qr code. bring your phone up, open the camera and point it at the qr code. it's going to take you to a fun place where you can buy tickets to see all of those people on your screen, including me. msnbc live democracy 2024, a live event in brooklyn, saturday, september 7th. we're going to be talking about the crazy world we're living in and the election coming soon. join us. we would love to have you. coming up, we're going talk more about that gender divide. we're also going to talk about this one lady here. tulsi gabbard, helping donald trump with debate prep. what's the deal with that. plus, could a cease fire deal actually be on the horizon? what the white house is saying about today's proposal. and behind the scenes of the

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democratic congresswoman went toe to toe with harris ahead of the 2020 primaries, and even then, harris accused gabbard of abandoning democrats and cozying up to donald trump. >> it's unfortunate that we have someone on the stage who is attempting to be the democratic nominee for president of the united states who during the obama administration spent four years full-time on fox news criticizing president obama. when donald trump was elected, not even sworn in, buddied up to steve bannon to get a meeting with donald trump in the trump tower. >> we're also learning more about how donald trump will be campaigning for the rest of the cycle, two sources familiar along with the trump campaign tell nbc news the secret service will be building him out a bullet proof shell of sorts for outdoor rallies. >> joining us now, nbc news correspondent, dasha burns. i want to get you to start first on tulsi gabbard. the other moment from the debate is tulsi gabbard going after kamala harris pretty

successfully on marijuana incarcerations. why is she being used by the trump campaign now? is that part of it? >> well, look, you've seen her show up at various events. the trump campaign has a relationship with her. the campaign has said that trump doesn't need, as they say, traditional debate prep, but they say he will be meeting with respected policy advisers and effective communicators, like tulsi gabbard. also spotted at the hotel near bedminster where trump campaign staff are staying is congressman matt gaetz who helped former president trump prep for the last debate against president biden and has said publicly he'll be helping with this one too. >> what's the deal with the bullet proof shell that the secret service is going to be deploying for donald trump's outside rallies. >> we have been going to indoor

rallies. he wants to rally outdoors. the secret service will be deploying bullet proof glass, the kind vice president biden and president harris travel with. because of things like line of sight issues. he has said he wants to go back to butler, pennsylvania, the site of the attempted assassination and rally there before november, katy. >> you were there with her. dasha burns, thank you very much. and "axios" today is giving a name to what we have been seeing play out in the polling in the headlines, really since 2016. donald trump's caught on tape women problem. the classics like crazy, unhinged and nasty. he now calls harris low iq, compounded in the 2024 election, by multiple comments, resurfacing from j.d. vance, his vp pick on what the purpose of post menopausal women is. and so called childless cat ladies, although he would argue about the post menopausal line. quote, women are more reliable

voters than men, and polls suggest they'll reliably vote by big margins for vice president harris. joining us now, former special assistant to president biden, meghan hays. he said the point of post menopausal women was to take care of kids. they claim when he said yes to that that the host was going in a different direction. that's their explains for that comment. there are a host of other comments that j.d. vance made about women that implies their greatest purpose is having children not working. there's a divide. a gender divide here, and harris is so far doing so well with women, and donald trump is going after male voters. when you look at this play out, how do you combat it. do you try to go after men as well if you're kamala harris, or do you double down on women. >> double down on women as well

as go after men. you need to do both. you can't leave any group unaffected. everyone is a voter. and especially in these swing states. i think the polling is showing that her favorability with women is going up. which is a positive thing. that's a really positive sign for her. i don't think you can leave men, and not address other issues as well. men have moms and daughters and wives and sisters, they also are impacted by some of these statements that are down right offensive. i mean, i don't think you cannot do both. >> how do you do both? what is the message that cuts through? >> you can talk to women about these things. men care about the economy too. independent voters will start to come home and will be impactful in the swing states.

>> there's been talk that kamala harris needs to ride the vibe more, ride personality more. don't get too heavy into policy. voters aren't paying that much attention into the nitty-gritty of policy, stuff that would leave her open to lines of attack from republicans. do you think that's a good idea? >> i think that people want to feel good about the future, people want to have hope in the future. that's one thing the vice president and the governor are doing, they're providing hope for people, you know, there's an option now that's not looking backwards. and donald trump goes out there and says negative things. he talks about the president and hillary clinton and he's always talking about how he's the one that's been attacked unfairly, which is just false. people want to vote on their feelings and feel good about moving into the future. part of that is the policies and the economic strategy. you saw the vice president laying out parts of her economic plan moving forward. she has to weigh into the policy. she has vibes about moving

people positively into the future. >> is there something specific you heard about her that you think she should focus on more going forward. >> she needs to talk about how she's going to cut costs for the middle class and a lot of people have been exacted by the cost of groceries, of gas, and i think with inflation coming down, and some of the other things that the administration is doing, she should continue to do that and take it a step further. she is providing some of that guidance, and i think that she should continue to talk about how she's going to make lives, and you know, the future better for the middle class. >> meghan hays, really good to have you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, we may have something, that's the quote. what's happening inside today's cease fire talks that has the white house cautiously optimistic. and what hamas is saying in response. plus, what options ukraine is now weighing as russian forces continue to push back against last week's surprise invasion. t last week's surprise invasion

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after two days of negotiations in doha, the u.s., egypt and qatar say they presented a final cease fire and hostage deal to israel and hamas, and that president biden is now saying he is hopeful of that. >> closer than we have been, i don't want to jinx anything, but as my grandfather said with the grace of god, we may have something. but we're not there yet. >> the mediator said they hoped

the plan could be agreed to by the end of next week. those specifics were not immediately clear. secretary of state antony blinken will be traveling to israel tomorrow to push diplomatic efforts. joining us from tel aviv, nbc news international correspondent, raf sanchez. hamas was not directly a part of these negotiations. they said previously they agreed to the deal that was on the table on july 2nd. they've also just released a statement. i know you're going to give us more of the context on it. but it doesn't seem, from my reading, all that optimistic that they confirmed their commitment to what, again, they agreed to on july 2nd. this is what they're saying again. they're calling on the mediators to pressure the israeli government, and implement what was agreed upon. raf, how do you read this. >> reporter: so, katy, this is not an officially positive statement from hamas. they have been presented with that american bridging proposal that was hashed out at the summit in qatar earlier.

what isn't clear at this point is whether this is their final word or whether this is tough words of negotiations before these talks move to cairo next week. so the president spoke a little earlier to the leaders of both egypt and qatar, the other mediators in this process, and in just the last hour, katy, the white house has been briefing reporters about those calls, and white house officials are saying they believe that we are potentially in the end game of these seemingly interminable negotiations. they are saying they believe, not sure, but they are hopeful that there could be a cease fire deal sealed next week in cairo. there is still a lot of areas where the two sides are far apart, but the point of this bridging proposal is to try to close those serious gaps. so we will see. all eyes on cairo, this is a level of optimism that we haven't heard from the white house in a long time.

we have been here many times before where things seem optimistic after one round of talks. there was an interesting line from one of the senior officials conducting this briefing saying to the israeli side do not hold out for months and months and months in search of the perfect deal. because if you do, there may not be any hostages alive at the end of this process, and the white house is saying that is not acceptable to them, so that gives you a sense of the urgency, katy. one other measure of ulnar si -- urgency, the gaza health ministry has confirmed for the first time they found polio in a ten-month-old child, a little baby born during the course of this war inside the gaza strip. gaza has been polio free for a quarter of a century. that disease has reemerged in the course of this fighting. the u.n. is saying the only way to head it off is to pause the

fighting, to roll out a serious vaccination campaign. otherwise you're going to see other children like this little baby coming down with this very serious illness. >> that is very scary, very scary. raf sanchez, thank you. now we're going to move on to ukraine where ukrainian forces are pushing deeper into russia. saying they have captured 386 miles of russian territory. new video from the ukrainian military shows just a part of the surprise incursion into the kursk region. at least 200,000 people have been forced to evacuate that part of russia since. and after two and a half years of war, ukraine says they hope the recent turn of events, this incursion, can get moscow to start peace talks. joining us now from kyiv, nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin. so, erin, what's your read on it from there? >> reporter: this incursion into the russian kursk region, remits

-- represents a turning point in the war, a change in ukrainian tactics, ukrainian approach, i was speaking to an adviser who said at the moment, on the front line here in ukraine, the fact of the market -- matter is the ukraines are out manned and out gunned by the russians. they're losing the symmetrical warfare. so he said, the last year and a half they have been looking at a potential incursion into russian territory, a surprise attack, so to speak, and he told me that they are surprised at how successful it has been so far. the fact that ukrainian soldiers inside of russia have encountered very little resistance. they have managed to occupy a town. now, on the record, i was speaking to a senior adviser to president search. he told me that the goal of this operation is defense, that ukraine has no intention of occupying russian territory. take a listen.

is this an occupation? >> translator: no, this is definitely not an occupation. this is a destruction of the military objects of the russian federation in the russian rear. >> reporter: now, one of the goals of this operation is to create a distraction, a diversion, to force russia to abandon the front line in the donbas, pull resources away to some of the flash points here in ukraine, to defend the russian homeland. so far that hasn't happened. russian forces remain in place. they continue their offensive in the donbas. i was just speaking to a ukrainian drone operator down there at one of the hot spots, and he was telling me that they have not relented, no signs that russian forces are moving in the donbas. but he told me that he expects that to happen step by step, to give it time. in the meantime, the success of the kursk operation has really

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the democratic national convention starts on monday, and so far speakers include three democratic presidents, and 2016 nominee, hillary clinton. joining us now, former biden white house press secretary and host of "inside with jen psaki" here on nbc. you got a preview, i want to hear all about it? >> i did. i spent the day yesterday at the united center. the balloons have not been lifted into the rafters yet, katy. they're still doing some final preparations. i sat down with the chairwoman of the convention, and the executive director about what's going to be different, what the story is about this convention, and i asked about how this convention, which is only the second time there's a female nominee at the top of the ticket, what lessons that she and they have learned from the last time there was a female nominee, and i think we're going to take a listen to that clip. >> you worked for former

secretary hillary clinton who was the first woman ever to be at the top of the ballot. now we have another woman who's going to be at the top of the ballot, and there's no question that secretary clinton paved the away in many ways. >> yes. >> what are you basing -- what are you using from that experience to build out how to elevate and lift up the second woman who is at the top of the ballot? >> you know, i actually think about fanny, who was denied a seat. i thing about geraldine ferraro, the first vice presidential nominee, and we pivot to the vice president who is actually at the top of the ticket, and i look back on what hillary went through as the first female to break the glass ceiling, because i still believe she broke the glass ceiling because i believe that she won the popular vote. i believe she won the election in many ways, and i will always believe that. but we all stand on somebody's shoulders, and it feels like

everybody, you know, i have a friend that says everybody has to make a trail for someone. and all of these trails that they've made has gotten vice president harris to where she is, i don't take that for granted. i feel very privileged to have worked with many of these women. i also feel very privileged that i know we're standing on somebody's shoulders, and so, you know, we might think we get here by ourselves, but as maya angelou often says, you come as one but 10,000 are standing behind you or beside you. she's got 10,000 people, hillary started her, and we're going to help take her to the finish line. >> so, katy, you know, i thought it was interesting, minyon moore has been an adviser for presidents, presidential candidates, and there's a lot of things that are unique about kamala harris's bio. of course she's the second woman, the first woman of color, that is going to be part of the story they're trying to tell next week.

and i thought it was interesting to hear from minyon and her perspective on that. >> i think conventions are really fascinating. it's a whole production around one person, and it's the story that the party wants to tell about that person. as with the rnc a few weeks ago and there was a lot of, you know, legend making and folklore about donald trump that was projected up on the screens. highly produced video about who he was as a kid, how he went through the ranks of new york real estate and new york tabloids, you know, voiced by a very familiar, you know, voiceover actor. and then i was struck thinking about how long that must have taken to get done and how little time the democratic party has had to get this done for kamala harris. is it a handicap for them to only have a few weeks to pull this off? or are they prepped? do they have all of that glossy stuff all ready and set to go.

>> i asked him about that. it's a challenge. this is unprecedented in terms of the limited amount of time that they've had to prepare. now, they have been preparing for the convention for nearly two years. right? in terms of where it's going to be and the pitches from cities and the building out and the speakers, what they told me is the baseline of it, the telling the story of the biden/harris administration of what she is, of course, a tremendous part. the big speakers, president biden is obviously speaking on monday issue you're going to hear from former president obama, former president clinton. those are people that would have been speaking no matter who was at the top of the ticket, of course. those are still the same. there are going to be some differences, of course she's a member of alpha kappa alpha, one of the define nine sororities. they will be represented. there will be a lot of proud divine nine members. that's never been the case before. that probably wouldn't have been

the case in the same way just a couple of weeks ago. they had to make some adjustments, had to make some tweaks, overall they're going to be telling the same story, it's slightly different to integrate the biography at the top of the ticket. >> i'm interested to see how they pull it off. i'm interested to compare it to what the rnc was like. >> it's going to feel different. >> i think it's safe to say, it's going to be a lot different. jen psaki, jen, thank you so much. >> great to be here. >> obviously as you know, you can watch "inside with jen psaki" sundays at 12:00 and 9:00 on mondays. still ahead, bermuda is bracing for what's in store for them as hurricane ernesto, it's coming on fast. don't go anywhere. ng on fast don't go anywhere. get back to better breathing with fasenra, an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma that is taken once every 8 weeks. fasenra is not for sudden breathing problems or other eosinophilic conditions. allergic reactions may occur. don't stop your asthma treatments

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hurricane earn nefrto now a category 2 storm already impacting bermuda expects to feel its fulls for tomorrow morning. official, getting ready to close the airport and suspend public transport answer the national security minister gave this stern warning to residents to take the storm seriously. >> stay safe throughout the passage of this storm, which is essentially all day on saturday, and until the air-clear is given. folks, beyond no illusion, this storm is the real deal. >> joining us now from bermuda, nbc news correspondent guad vie

villegas. people told get onboard and ten minutes before they need to take off or can't go anywhere. tell me about the effects of the wind. >> reporter: katy, the last flights are getting out right now according to what was planned. the first winds we're getting. this is only the beginning of the storm. the center of the storm is expected to get very close to bermuda at some point tomorrow, and the ocean, you can see here. so just so you can get an idea. on a normal day this looks like a turquoise-colored swimming pool. even this morning, calm, no waves. you can see the ocean, you can see the waves coming in with the beginning of the storm. the wind, we've got some rain coming in from this direction. again, the storm making its way north. expected to come up west of bermuda. officials have already warned this is going to be about 36

hours of rain and wind. they want people to make sure that they understand the gravity of the weather. it's only friday afternoon, and this is what we're seeing with these conditions rapidly picking up. katy? >> yeah. it looks pretty hairy and the storm is still many hours away. wind picking up again. saying to folks, sit down. get onboard this plane, because it's got to leave right this second. winds are too strong. guad venegas, thing that. good luck. that does it for me today. it is friday. monday is the start of the dnc, but before that, "deadline: white house" will start after a very quick break. don't go anywhere. ere.

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happy friday. it's 4:00 in the east as we come on the air. vice president kamala harris is in roggy, north carolina. a short time ago she took the fight straight to the vot