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areas. if you take -- say you have a whole with 100 kids and now all of a sudden you have 95 kids. you took that money from those five kids or you did it in whatever arizona is doing it or other ways of doing it, this is what happens. you get rid of the librarian or you get rid of the gym teacher or you get rid of the art teacher or the music teacher. because we are still going to have classes, that have english and math. so the things that really resonate for kids, you get rid of. i taught in new york city, and in the 1990s during a recession, and we --. we tried to keep the ap government course i'm teaching. we tried to keep the health courses we were teaching so we have pathways for kids to go into career technical or health. but schools across america are making these choices all the time. time.
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so we how do we help kids become the middle class, how do we help kids go from struggling to striving if they take this funding away? we have to strengthen public schools, we have to do different things to meet the needs of kids, of course, but there's nothing other than a public school system that spells opportunity in america. and so what this does with project 2025 is take away opportunity for everyone who is not rich. >> our viewers need an advanced placement credit for hearing all of that from you. we thank you for that. it's a pleasure to have you here. straightahead, secretaries of state jocelyn benson and adrian fontes of arizona address habit of fighting the rights under ongoing efforts to deny the results of the upcoming election that hasn't
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happened yet. another hour of velshi begins right now. good morning, it is sunday, what are we calling it today? i will call it the 16th. 79 days until the election. and we are going to be talking a lot about this upcoming election, we are 79 days away but it feels like this is moving in warp speed, there's another big week ahead for kamala harris as she introduces herself as the democratic presidential nominee in front of her largest audience yet. as we speak, democrats are heading to chicago where the democratic national convention is set to begin and less than 24 hours. the theme will be for the future, for our future.
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it'll be a slightly different affair from past conventions and a very different event than the one that organizers had been planning. not much in the way of real business to take of this year, delegates have already voted and made harris the official nominee but it'll be an important opportunity for democrats to consolidate support behind their campaign, and unified the party after it tense and uneasy summer. as part of the effort, the last three democratic presidents will appear and give speeches at the convention. bill clinton, barack obama and joe biden. former first lady hillary clinton, jill biden and michelle obama will all give a speech as well. just a few weeks ago the convention was supposed to be about biden until the shifting dynamics of the race and the high stakes of this election forced him to step down. organizers say they still have plans to honor him and his 50
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years of public service to the country. more important, he will give the first big speech of the week scheduled for tomorrow which will give him a chance to set the tone for the convention while also making the case for harris and her presidential bill -- bit undermining the country that donald trump remains a danger to democracy. trump knows this could be a pivotal week for the presidential race, so he's trying to blunt democrats momentum with a series of chaotic events of his own. yesterday he had a rally in pennsylvania partly in effort to still the spotlight from harris, his campaign just announced the former president will hold additional rallies and press events in multiple swing states over the next week despite previously saying that he didn't need to return to the campaign trail until after the democratic convention because he claimed he had a big lead.
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meanwhile tim walz returned to his home state of nebraska yesterday for his first solo campaign rally and during the speech he reminded voters why trump and his allies can't be trusted with our democracy. >> when they tried, which they did, and will again, when they tried to overturn their elections, that's not just weird, that is un-american. that's un-american. >> nearly 4 whole years have passed since the 2020 election and the electoral system is still under threat. many vulnerabilities and in that could endanger people's right to vote or undermined legitimate results of the election. the watchdog organization citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington identified 35 road election officials across the country who have already refused to certify election results and may be in a position to do so again. the list includes tom crosby and piggy judge, to board of supervisors from arizona who refused to certify the result of the 2022 election.
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additionally, disinformation and misinformation about the integrity of our electoral system is continuing to spread, fueled in large part by trump's efforts to deny the legitimacy of the result of the last presidential election. on top of all that, election administration officials and poll workers who are regular folks often older and they take on the jobs on a temporary basis, are continuing to experience harassment for simply doing their job which is making it more difficult to recruit people to fill those positions. so joining me now are two very important people, who know about the challenges and the threats that the country is facing ahead of november's election. jocelyn benson is the secretary of state of michigan and the founder of the michigan center for michigan law and administration. also with us is the secretary of state of arizona, adrian
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fontes . thank you both for being here. it's important to talk to the both of you because secretary of states are important and secretary benson you heard me say, really before the last election, i don't think i knew any secretaries of state or interview them but now you people are literally the most important people in our society because you're upholding the integrity of our elections. it's kind of the reason why you won with the support of a lot of republicans in arizona because they have seen you administer elections before and they said this guy will hold up the integrity of our elections. >> thanks for having us and yeah, good, better and different, we make sure that that as hard as it might be in the face of the threats and the nonsense that our people are safe and the voters are safe and the process is upheld with integrity. we've been preparing for this upcoming november since i took office in january 2023, doing a whole bunch of stuff, augmenting training, doing ai stuff, and it is important, and
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we did build an enormous coalition across the state of arizona particularly on the republican side with their business partners because they know that the business of america democracy provides the best space for democracy to floors. >> secretary benson, a lot of misinformation about elections has led to threats against election workers, you have swatting incidents at your house where people call in and say there's an emergency which can actually end up with somebody dead. so i'm sorry about that. but let's talk about election workers. they are different all over the country but according to the u.s. election commission, more than half of all poll workers in 2022 were aged 61 or older. can you draw me a picture generally speaking of who the poll workers are in the country, what their motivations are, give me a picture of who
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the regular americans are, who keep our election system working? >> well, that's exactly the right word, regular americans, these are our neighbors, our friends, people who are simply trying to make sure the promise of democracy works for everyone and go about their own daily lives. these are paid positions and many of these election workers have served for decades as i've visited polls throughout our elections, i'm amazed by how many people show up year after year and yes indeed a lot have left since 2020 and a lot have said, i did not sign up for the threats and the harassment but so many others have stepped up to fill the void, 80,000 election workers in michigan have signed up since 2020 to serve in our elections and these are democrats, republicans, independent voters, people who just want to
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make sure that the promise of one person, one vote is made real for everyone. these people deserve our thanks, certainly not the threats that they been receiving since these lies began in great fashion. >> secretary fontes , while these people may have politics of their own , they tend to not be weirdly partisan people, they are people who believe in the system, and know that the system survives because they are out there doing it. what have you seen in terms of whether these threats and intimidation of the accusations, how does it affect the recruitment of these people and how are you faring with that? >> i know secretary benson has seen a lot of the things that we've seen, folks of good character, folks of integrity, they are stepping up, you see americans like myself, and everybody that does this, we can separate our political opinion from our duty as citizens. i'm here as you can see behind me, getting ready to have a great convention for my elective democratic political party but i have a duty that is more important back in arizona and when i am there operating, just
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like our poll workers do, just like the folks who come in off the street and they know about the threats and the stuff, they want to do it anyway because they understand their duty. those are the folks who understand the greatest praise and thanks that secretary benson has mentioned, they are doing the work of our democracy, out there during early voting and on election day, and they are stepping up, so while on the one hand we are seeing these threats and stuff continue in an illegitimate way, and it is problematic, americans are stepping up in many spaces and i feel really good about that. we are going to have a great election in november. that's in spite of the malfeasance of folks who want to destroy our democracy. >> secretary benson, one of the things that you both have in common is that you both lived in states or work in states where there are audits of
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elections, some are sillier than others but you are both believers in the audit process, and the idea that elections should be audited, they should be checked, machines should be checked, we should be able to assure our voters that the secretaries of state who administer elections are on top of it and the system is safe, in fact in michigan, it's a normal process auditing your elections. >> yes, we had over 250 state and local procedural audits after the 2020 election, all of which affirmed the results of that election and it's a reminder that transparency is our friend and in many ways we can rise to the scrutiny we are under because we believe in the security of the integrity of the processes and the administrations over the elections we see. so the questions are good and we welcome people with questions to serve as election workers so they can see firsthand just how secure our elections are but the postelection audits and all of the other levels of security tricks that we have, those are
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time tested through years and really reinforce the reality that our elections aren't always secure but people can trust the results of the elections to be accurate reflections of the will of the people. >> they don't tend to be what any of the accusations tend to be, it tends to be a technical matter or a procedural matter that is fixed. none of it is some kind of weird partisan effect to sway an election? >> look, this is a human endeavor that is run by human beings. our neighbors, friends, family, folks who are good old americans who want to do the best they can and they usually do a really darn good job and that means as a human endeavor, there's going to be a cork here and there, a bump in the road but the reality is we have audits in place across the united states of america because we want to make sure that we got it right. this has been the pattern for many decades, americans who run our elections, who have always run our elections, they want to get it right. they care about an accurate
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result much more than they care about the political result and that is the key thing we need to continue to tell folks so that we can build confidence in our american elections once again. >> what a great way to put it. thank you, to both of you. i'm sorry for the bad things that happened to you but i'm grateful for how brave you are, representing every single election worker, we owe our gratitude to you. still ahead, with the american worker taking center stage as a voting lock we look at what both campaigns are doing to try to win the working class. then i don't make a habit of playing donald trump's tape from his speeches but he said some things yesterday in pennsylvania that i think you need to hear, if only so that
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the democratic national convention is said to kickoff in chicago tomorrow and the theme was revealed, for the people, for our future. for audiences at home, this is the speaking schedule, tomorrow biden will speak along with the first lady and hillary clinton. nbc news confirms that michelle obama will be speaking tuesday night as well and barack obama will headline the convention that night. illinois governor jb pritzker will speak on tuesday, wednesday will feature the vp pick tim walz as well as former president bill clinton and house speaker america nancy pelosi. and vice president harris will close it all out on thursday.
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mike, give us an idea what we can expect tomorrow including what president biden will focus on? >> there are two factors that are driving the anticipation and the enthusiasm around this convention, the first is think with this party has been through, it's hard to believe, it's much less than a months of biden announced he was no longer going to be a candidate. we seen the coalescing around harris as the new nominee so this convention, to celebrate the choice will also be twinned with celebrating the legacy of president biden as he leaves public office after more than half a century. it'll be an interesting night. and the president will see the spotlight to the future of the
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democratic party. there are a lot of rising stars who haven't gotten to speak in slots that we will see as the week unfolds. the other factor driving this is the fact that we weren't gathered in person together for years ago for the convention. remember, i was talking to you from the parking lot in wilmington out side of the chase center. mostly it was a virtual convention. so the democratic party is thrilled to be back together under one roof to celebrate this historic candidacy of kamala harris and to build on the momentum that they've seen over the last few weeks. >> with all the crazy politics, i forgot about that. there wasn't a convention because of covid. thank you. what new promises both campaigns are making to try to win the crucial mpaign working-class vote. working-class vote
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2024 is shaping up to be the year of labor with the american worker taking center stage. a recent survey found eight in 10 voters want lawmakers to invest more in pro-worker policies like paid leave and the child tax credit. and as both campaigns compete for the blue-collar vote, the 2024 race could be decided by america's working class. so how did the blue and red ticket stack up on labor issues? one thing is clear, the u.s. falls significantly short of other wealthy nations in supporting its workers. it remains an outlier by not providing worker protections like federal paid family leave. the u.s. allocates 6/10 of a percentage of its gdp to family benefits on par with mexico and turkey.
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and in contrast, the uk spends four times as much. democratic front runner harris, the platform would bring america closer to these basic global standards including paid family leave and the $6000 child tax credit. her running mate, governor walz was spoken -- chosen in part for his strong track record on workers rights. under his leadership, minnesota enacted several worker friendly policies including 12 weeks of paid leave and a 79 $50 child tax credit. minnesota ranks as one of the best states for workers and the support is mirrored in the health of its businesses. minnesota strong labor market practices place it in the sixth highest in the nation for business according to a cnbc report published last month. under governor walz, the model shows how robust worker protections can boost a company's competitiveness. on the gop side, paid leave gets zero mentioned in the trump/vance platform and trump
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said he would consider the child tax credit but stopped short of committing to it. senator vance has proposed expanding the child tax credit felt it came time to vote for when he was notably missing in action. earlier the self-described profamily candidate missed a boat for a bill that included a much narrower expansion of the child tax credit. on the issue of wages, her supports an increase in the national minimum wage that has been stagnant at $7.25 an hour for over a decade by the way, that's under $15,000 a year if you only work one job. trump on the other hand has claimed that raising the minimum wage would hurt small businesses but a survey earlier this year found 61% of small business owners support raising their states minimum wage. on labor unions the blue ticket sees strong support thanks to titans staunchly pro-union platform. biden became the first president to join a picket line when he visited striking autoworkers in michigan last year. in contrast, trump has a long history of opposing unions.
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he's been a post of stiffing his own employees and under his first term he signed and series of orders that decimated the union influence. recently trump made comments that seem to praise elon musk for firing striking workers leading to an unfair labor practice charge from the united auto workers union. the difference between the two campaign tickets is clear. one demonstrates a consistent record of empowering american workers and has the backing of the majority of labor unions and it's not the tear involving the convicted real estate tycoon and the silicon valley investor who is backed by the tech billionaire class. join me now is tom perez, senior advisor to president biden. he joins us today in his personal capacity and it
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happens to be one that has lots of experience with these things. secretary perez, thanks for being with us. i want to start by talking about something we didn't mentioned but trump was talking about it last night, talking about across-the-board tariffs on imported goods and he said something interesting. he said we don't pay for those tariffs, the countries pay for those tariffs except tariffs make things more expensive and then you pay for it as consumers, it's an unsophisticated approach. if you want to get more things made in america, i understand, trump's way of doing it is going to lead to more inflation. >> don't take my word for, talk to all the economists who say the same thing, allie, and what you've seen with president biden and vice president harris is, go to phoenix, you see chip manufacturing, not one but two major anchors, we are bringing those jobs back home, look at the clean energy economy, and you see, the vice president, the paris, with a real commitment to building a supply
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chain so that we are making the component parts for electric vehicles here in the united states. putting people to work, by the way, in union jobs. the commitment of the vice president, for the people and for the future agenda, it's about making sure we meet people where we are, and we incentivize unionization. and that has worked over the last three and half years, and the vice president is going to continue to turbocharge those efforts, and you mentioned paid leave. we are the only industrialized nation on the planet, that doesn't have some form of paid leave at a federal level, and you've got to meet workers where they are, the reason why what governor walz did in minnesota, and what roughly a dozen other governors have done across the country, the reason they do that is we talked to employers, and one of the biggest costs they have is the cost of attrition.
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they are making choices, if you don't have paid leave, i'm going to stay home, leaving the workplace. countries that have paid leave, have much better labor force participation, especially among women, and so that's what the vice president is about, it's about making sure we give opportunities for people, the childcare tax credit, paid leave, it's time to do this, and states have demonstrated that it can be done but now we need to do it at the federal level because you shouldn't have to win the geographic lottery to have access to paid leave in this country, and that's why i love the agenda of the vice president, her vision is about making sure that everybody has that opportunity to compete and we meet people where they are, the cost of childcare is so expensive, and we are taking steps under the vice president's leadership, and governor walz, his leadership, to address those concerns. >> wages have been going up for the past few years, and we
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should deal with the federal minimum wage. but ultimately creating less inequality is a matter of wages, benefits, healthcare, paid leave, parental leave, childcare, you know, it's a lot of things that is a complicated mesh to make sure that people are more equal. donald trump does not look at it that way. he thinks corporate tax cuts will raise all boats? >> you articulated by the way, the platform of the harris/walz campaign. it's about making sure that if you work a full-time job, you can feed your family. by the way, every republican, every so-called red state that's had a ballot initiative to raise the minimum wage over the last dozen years, those initiatives have passed, because people in those red states understand that you can't feed your family on 7 1/4 an hour, making sure that people have access to healthcare, the vice president
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and governor walz, want to make sure that we continue to expand the affordable care act. we've seen 8 million more people on the exchange over the last 3 1/2 years and we can do even more to expand that. they want to make sure, and we have finally taken on the pharmaceutical industry thanks to biden and harris, making sure that we can negotiate the prices of prescription drugs just announced, 10 more drugs the other day, and the vice president is committed to making sure that we are continuing those efforts. you know the child tax í credit, we did it in 2021, reducing childhood poverty by 40%. we know how to grow the union movement and president biden and vice president harris and governor walz have been doing this, making sure that we are providing opportunities to
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organize, making sure you have a national labor relations board that protects workers. you saw the former president, trump, talking about, yeah, you can fires -- fire workers who are on strike, you know you can't, and it really highlights the key differences between vice president harris and trump. she's going to protect workers, and he is not. we need to invest in making sure that you know, people have access to quality and affordable housing of the vice president has articulated a very muscular plan to build even more housing, to make sure that housing is affordable at every level, and by giving a child tax care credit to those with newborns again, putting more money in people's pockets, that's what the dignity of work is about and the reason so many corporate leaders understand this, and i spoke to a lot of them when i was labor secretary and i continue to speak with them. they want to retain their
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workers, and paying them well and giving them paid leave and giving them benefits. that's how you do it. we in this country are going to accomplish for paid leave, what barack obama and joe biden and kamala harris and others were able to accomplish in the aca, the next frontier of progress is indeed, paid leave and that's a big part of the agenda. >> and it's not a mystery. he showed you could do it in minnesota, it's not a mystery because we've seen it and other developed nation and it entirely works. thanks for joining us today. >> my pleasure. republicans have spent decades dividing a demographic that could be one of the most powerful political forces in the country, if it came together. i will talk to a man who's
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i don't usually play sound from trump's rallies unless it's tied to a piece of news we are giving because they are full of lies. but sometimes it's important to check in and be aware of just how unhinged the republican nominee sounds when he speaks in public these days. here's some of what he had to say before a crowd and oaks perry, pennsylvania, that was supposed to focus on his
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economic framework. >> you don't mind if i go off teleprompter for a second, do you? joe biden hates her. you know they do poles on this stuff and i'm like at 93% i said so i are we having an election, they didn't have an election. >> the stock market is only up because they think i'm going to win. >> if i don't win, you will have a 1929 style depression. enjoy. >> she's prohibited from laughing, they said your laugh is horrible. never laugh, ever. >> i want her to laugh, and then we will just claim victory. >> i say i am much better looking than her. much better. >> i'm a better looking person than kamala. >> i heard the other day, this isn't anything, i'm just saying, they will say, he's rambling, i'm a really smart guy, i don't ramble.
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i don't ramble. >> i think jimmy carter is the happiest man on earth today, he's not a young man, because jimmy carter's presidency was brilliant. brilliant, by comparison to this. >> you know what the green new scam is? the oceans will rise 1/8 of an inch over the next 400 years. but they don't talk about a madman that is building nuclear missiles right now. that's your real global warming. it's not this. >> did you see in the olympics? they had to, transition, they transitioned, they were men and they transitioned to women and they were in the boxing. it's crazy, it's so demeaning to women. >> minneapolis, they were burning it down, remember the fake reporter, the one with a nice shaved head, he got up, this is a peaceful rally, this
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is a rally of love, behind him, the entire city was burning. it looked like world war ii, right? >> just to be clear as part of his stick, that fake cnn reporter in minneapolis he just mentioned, that's me. yet here i was thinking i work for msnbc. go figure. still have, what a black man wrote a book about poverty and how he thinks he can help save democracy. and keeps them whiteay just by brushing your teeth. christine i never thought that whitening my teeth could be so easy. i just put the gel on the brush, the toothpaste on it, brush and i can see my white teeth. announcer simply add smileactives to any toothpaste, and our patented polyclean technology activates into a powerful micro foam that penetrates into the enamel surface to safely lift and remove stains.
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this was donald trump's pitch to black voters during his first presidential run in 2016. >> what do you have to lose by trying something new like trump. you are living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58% of your youth is unemployed.
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what the hell do you have to lose. >> that was almost exactly 8 years ago when it was still somewhat jarring for a presidential candidate so casually, as an ugly stereotype. but trump wasn't peddling new ideas there, the racist myth around black poverty is as old as america. and republican candidates have been exploiting it for decades. trump said the quiet parts out loud. when reagan talked about welfare queens in the 1970s and 80s, he was peddling a racist myth about black women getting rich off social services because he wanted to cut funding to social welfare programs. and that was easier to do if he convinced poor white people who benefited from welfare and far greater in our members that it was actually a black problem. my next guest has dedicated his life to advocating for poor and low-wage people, whatever their color and his latest project is
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an attempt to undo decades of political division sown by self- interested politicians. to reveal the proof of poverty in america that the same system knocks everyone down, and if they join together, poor people would be a powerful political force. the reverend dr. william barber's book might poverty, it's a crucial and ambitious work. in it, he writes, quote, the method says that poverty is a black issue obscures the fact that white folks are potentially the single largest base for a movement of poor people that could demand that our government address the crisis of poverty in america. as long as americans can be divided by identity politics and cultural wedge issues, there's not a single political coalition that has the power to change how we think about poverty and thus, what we can
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do about it. but when poor white people begin to see how their own well- being is tied up with the fortunes of other poor people, they and their allies, all who care about the common good, become an overwhelming majority of the american population. joining me now is the aforementioned dr. william barbara, he's a senior lecturer of repairs of the breach, cochair of the poor people's campaign. reverend barber, it's good to see you. you and i have been having some version of this conversation for some years now and this age- old american habit of dividing and pitting poor black people and poor white people against one another has been very effective but if we can get away from it, we can actually see real change. >> yeah, trump sounded just like george wallace did, it's an old, old trick, but the truth is, when you look at the
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135 million poor and low-wage people in the country, 66 million are white and 26 million people are black and in the voting booth, poor people and low-wage people make up 30% of the electorate in every state and in battleground states like wisconsin, philadelphia, north carolina and they make up over 40%, and not one of those battleground states, if just 5 to 10% of those who are infrequent voters were to vote, they could not determine the outcome, wisconsin, the last time 20,000 votes determine the election, over 1 million poor wage voters to invoke, north carolina the last election, 74,000 both determined that margin, and the number 1 reason they didn't
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vote is the political machinery does not speak to them. doesn't talk about the policies that will impact their lives. >> census data said what you just told me. low income americans, were far less likely to register to vote than americans with an income of $100,000 or more. they are treated by voiceless in our society, there doesn't seem to have historically been a benefit for targeting those people's as voters but you just laid out the benefit, all of those tight races in swing states would be won if you have policies and it does seem like we are starting to see some policies, that would actually benefit those people. but what would you tell the harris campaign to be doing right now to say you can actually win some of these voters over? >> a lot of what they are doing but even deeper because for instance in pennsylvania, the last election, poor and low- wage voters did not know.
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we are talking about people who care for us medically, talking about manufacturing workers, sleep in their car at night, talking about the white lady named pamela who died in a high school parking lot when the lack of medicaid in north carolina expansion close their hospital. these folks, 55 million of them want a living wage of at least $15 an hour, and that is something we should do. it pulls very high. they need healthcare, 87 million people are without healthcare or underinsured. they want to see voting rights because voting rights is the equalizer to the money and to all of the dark money. they want to see the child income tax credit, they want to see the earned income tax credit. they want to see safety mats that allow people not just to fall through the cracks, and so everything we are talking about, not only is it the moral thing to do but it's the moral
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thing to do because it's the right thing to do and the economic thing to do. it costs us more to let child poverty exist without fixing it. costs us more not to pay workers a living wage. it costs us more for people not to have healthcare. and again, we are talking about, it's the reason why we are reaching out to 15 million poor and low-wage voters through the campaign to talk about issues, we are saying, you talk about in some states, less than 3%, every political campaign ought to have some ads and mailers that say to the low- wage folks, if you vote for us and give us congress and senate, this is what will happen. and that can move what is needed to transform these elections. >> let me ask you because if you took away the identity politics. if people forget, you are with
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the poor people's campaign. martin luther king when he died, when he was assassinated, he was dealing with economic issues and making his point white people and black people, your problems are the same, the people to blame are the same. the people keeping you down to provide low-wage labor are the same. and so, what happens if you break that divide, can we break it and what happens if we break it? >> what happens if we break it, let me say this, we can still talk about race and we have to but we expand the conversation of race and we show how those who are engaged in racialized politics to keep people down, those policies have a collateral damage. when trump or reagan says what they say, it's not only racist toward the black woman, it's dismissive of tens of millions of white people so you get this midst in the division if we say no to it, then we can form together and we become what cindy lakes said, the most powerful swing but with the most potential is 30 million voters, 30 million, they didn't
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vote, that's the largest potential swing vote in the country that could fundamentally transform who gets elected and the kinds of policies that are implemented after the elections. >> reverend, one day it'll come out what i'm doing research on you that you are an economist. we have the best economic conversations. thank you for joining us. he is the author of white poverty, how exposing myths about race and class can reconstruct american democracy. we will be right back. right ba. ] did you get that? only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty,♪ ♪liberty, liberty.♪ sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep... ...so he takes zzzquil. the world's #1 sleep aid brand. and wakes up feeling like himself. get the rest to be your best with non-habit forming zzzquil. ♪ ♪ here's to getting better with age.
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