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the fab four as we just had the introduction there of governor tim walz. second gentleman doug emhoff, let's listen in, everyone. >> we are all in this together. i think this is a room that knows this campaign will be won in rooms like this across the country. it will be run with people sitting on the phone banks, dialing numbers and people picking up the phone on a sunday. it happened with somebody saying, you have a minute to talk about the future of our country. that is a big step to pick up the phone and talk. listen to folks in here, people are doing it. and of the thing i can tell you about, what kamala harris has brought to this are so many things, from experiences as a prosecutor to attorney general, to united states senator, to vice president, to next president of the united states. there's that resume which is out, without question. but the reason they are picking up the phone and the reason

they are standing 1000 deep in a 193 feet in las vegas, she's bringing out the joy in hearts of americans. ringing out the kindness that ties us together. the decency, the vision of a better tomorrow. and each of these volunteers and the people, they all set it. they said it is so much better to be for something rather than against something. to be for the future, not going back. that is what people know and we, some of us who have less hair and are old enough can remember when you could go to thanks giving , watch a steelers game with your relatives and not complain about politics the whole time. not be on each other's back. because you shared a commitment to democracy. a commitment to personal freedom. a commitment to pub look education.

a commitment to the structure. we don't call each other names. we don't do it. and we don't use the least fortunate amongst us for punchlines as jokes because they are our neighbors. and so you are getting an opportunity to see the backside of america. are the young people here, they maybe haven't seen a campaign like this because of covid, because of things that's been happening. this is a chance to bring out the joy, turn the page and look to the future. this idea of going forward. doug is right, he told you my kids were backstage and i. you didn't tell you they were probably an because they couldn't believe i got through that thing and through that speech. it was amazing to them. but it was part of this family because they can feel the decency radiating off of these people. they can see the commitment. they know that children matter. they know that family matters.

they know individuals matter and this leader knows that it is not any of government's business to be in your health care decisions. those are your decisions. >> [ applause ] >> this is a leader that celebrates love in all forms it comes by. we love each other. and for the young people, you hear somebody talking about this. we have the right to send our children to school, to be free from being shot dead in their classrooms. that is what it is. and this is a nation, that can ensure clean water, clean air and a bright future for our children. so i have to tell you, we've got 79 days and you will hear me say this. doug is going to correct me. i say that is easy, we can sleep when we are dead. doug said we can sleep on november 6th after the election is over. you may be right. but look, coming into football country and being an old football coach, there is an old saying, you don't hope you're going to win, you prepare to win. and you give it the best you've

got. and you know when that game is over you want to know you left it all on the field and that is all we are asking. let's leave it all on the field and get this done. because when my grandkids and your grandkids ask you about this, the numbers, november 6, you were there, first time when you got to welcome madam president of the united states, kamala harris. >> tim walz! hey, everybody! we're back. and we're going to keep coming back. and we're going to keep coming back. i want to thank everybody. i want to start with tim walz. isn't he fantastic? i like to call him coach walz. you know, he has done so much

for our country and he's going to make an extraordinary vice president of the united states. gwen, girl, you just killed it. i'm telling you. i mean, there are some things, my first grade teacher mrs. francis wilson attended my law school graduation. i just love teachers. anyone who decides to become a teacher, it is just one of the greatest gifts that one has, that they give and i think you for doing all that you have done. thank you. and my husband, doug, you are doing so much and you have been traveling all over our country. i want to thank you. you are going to yet again make history as the first gentleman of the united states of america. there are a lot of incredible leaders. i want for a moment to mention my friend bob casey. we have. to send him back to the united states senate.

for the time i was in the united states senate and worked with bob, i'm going to tell you something. we would have these meetings where all of the democratic senators would get together for lunch. no cameras in the room. bob, almost every time was one of the ones who would stand up in that room with all of the other senators from around the country, talking about the working people of pennsylvania and why we needed to have you in our mind when we were thinking about national policy. every single day, that is who bob casey is. let's send him back to the united states senate. chris deluzio, we want to thank you. what he's doing in the halls of congress. again, you said -- sent some fighters to d.c., pennsylvania. you sent writers to d.c. your next attorney general, where are you? i have done the work. i know what it requires. you're going to be outstanding. so you've got a lot of work,

pennsylvania, on your shoulders that you are carrying and you who are volunteering to do this work. and we're going to get it done. and malcolm, knows exactly what i talk about. i see him almost every time i come to the state. i want to address you all right now, as the volunteers. you know tim said it, this campaign for us, is really born out of the love of country. we all love each -- we love our country and we know our country is going to be as strong as our willingness to fight for it. and to fight for what we stand for. when you know what you stand for, you know what to fight for her. when you stand for working people you fight for working people. when you stand for freedom, whether it be to make decisions about your own body or who you love, you fight for those things. when you believe in ending child poverty, you fight for that.

when you believe and what we need to do, to lift up the middle class, you fight for the middle class. these are the things we stand for and these, therefore are the things we fight for her. and that is what our election is about. our election is about understanding the importance of this beautiful country of ours in terms of what we stand for around the globe as a democracy. as a democracy. we know, there is duality to the nature of democracy. on one hand, incredible strength , wedded -- when it is intact. what it does for its people, to protect and defend the rights, their liberty and their freedom. incredibly strong. and incredibly fragile. it is only as strong as our willingness to fight for it.

and that is what this campaign is about. this campaign is about a recognition that frankly over the last several years, there has been this kind of perversion that has taken place, i think. which is to suggest, which is to suggest the measure of the strength of the leader is based on who you be down, when what we know is the real and true measure of the strength of a leader, based on who you lift up. that is what we see from strength. we know what strength looks like. that is what strength looks like. anybody who is about beating down other people, is a coward. this is what strength it looks like. so we know what we are about. we know what we stand for, and one of the beautiful things about these next 79 days, is what the people in this room

have already been doing and no. let's build communiqui -- community. let's reinforce community. you all as volunteers, what you know and we're going to spread the word, is how you can look at the face of a perfect stranger and see in their face a neighbor. that we see in each other, our connection, our interdependence. what we see in each other, which fortifies and reinforces that the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us. that is what this campaign is about. yes, it is about winning and we will win. and we will dim -- we will win. and we will win. god willing, and through these next 79 days, we will continue to build community, build coalitions, and remind each

other, we are all in this together. and so i think you all so very much for what you are doing. now, let's get back to work. shao we? -- shall we? >> all right, everybody. a 15 minute break or so with a lot of rousing applause, and a lot of enthusiasm and positivity for this bus tour and for those who have gathered in in beaver county, pennsylvania, the southwestern part. specifically rochester. we saw them earlier, all four of them. the vice president, second gentleman as well as her vice presidential nominee, the man she hopes to guide her as well through the next four years by her side, tim walz and his wife, gwen. we saw them at the phone bank and that is an area that voted for donald trump. that county went for donald trump in 2020, of course the entire state of pennsylvania

did go for joe biden. they have their work cut out for them and they have positive energy. so we are going to keep following this bus tour today as they make their way, eventually, to chicago. of course, the side of the democratic national convention that kicks off tomorrow. let's go to bc's aaron gilchrest joining us from pittsburgh with breaking news on the harris campaign. they were in pittsburgh when they landed on air force two, made their way 45 minute drive to work where they are now, where we see them. what we heard the vice president speaking and again, this seems to be a very re- energized campaign right now. >> and that was the point, i think of this stop. the beaver county field office for the harris/walz campaign we're watching my dish right -- watching right now. and they are really trying to fire up, jazz of this group of

largely volunteers, people who today were making phone calls, reaching out to folks who live here in western pennsylvania, trying to get support for the harris/walz to get. we heard the vice president talk about some of the things she talked about before on the campaign trail. mind you there was nose gripped -- nose gripped being use. she talked about reproductive freedom. she type -- the fight for democracy and lifting up the middle class. those are the key parts of the message that she and governor walz have been carrying across the country for the last couple of weeks they have been the democratic ticket here, and this is something, you heard her encouraging people in the crowd, to also talk about as they reach out to their communities, talking to people who live and work in their neighborhoods. about supporting this ticket and supporting a message that is one that is characterized by hope and by joy. or that we hear governor walz talk of use often when he talks about what it the harris/walz campaign is about. it is worth noting that, as the

vice president was talking about, the work they are continuing to do. she did, i think sort of seemed to make a reference to some of the personal attacks we have heard from former president trump, as he has been on the campaign trail over the last couple of days in particular. she said that the real measure of a leader is who you lift up. we know the former president talks about vice president harris, talked about her intelligence, talked about -- excuse me, other physical attributes of the vice president and the time he's been out on the trail. some of the comments we heard today were perhaps pointed at him, without naming him outright, without naming his running mate outright either. the vice president, we know, will go on from here and make several other stops potentially at other banks. we think that there may be retail locations where she and her team will stop on this bus to her. that launched a little while ago and will wrap up before she heads to chicago to be part of the democratic national convention. >> i think you've got the sense

of things absolutely right. aaron gilchrest, thank you very much from pittsburgh. let's go to chicago's united center where the dnc kicks off tomorrow and we find mike there. you went to your perch. that makes you taste me nervous because you are so close to the edge. >> i have to keep an eye on things from up high. >> i got you, i am sure you are -- i was able to watch you listening to the vice president. the kind of enthusiasm they are generating, both from the crowds but also from within themselves. there seems to be so much positivity, mike. is that what will be carrying into the start of things tomorrow, despite the fact there will be protests outside, that is a guarantee.'s but that is exactly the goal of this convention, organizers have been trying to translate the energy and enthusiasm. the big crowds we have been

seeing attending these events for vice president harris and governor walz across the country. to a national audience that will be watching the next four days in chicago, not just what is happening in the room but what is going to be happening as part of this multifaceted convention. remember they are adapting elements they use four years ago of the virtual convention because of covid-19. as i'm watching, the event in western pennsylvania,, i could not help but thinking about when i was covering president biden in in western pennsylvania. is alert -- a part of the country he loves to campaign in. he felt it suited his brand of politics and that is the role he's also going to try to play when he speaks at the convention tonight. is going to make a forceful case for vice president harris to succeed. is going to speak directly to those voters he feels a unique connection with, that vice president harris needs as part of the coalition that biden/harris m -- coalition as they put it to be successful. but also some the emotional tributes leading up to the remarks, with a sense of really the depth of feeling for this president. the outgoing president. we heard from amy klobuchar earlier, listened to how she

put it. >> there's going to be so much love for joe biden. there's going to be tears of joy when he walks into that hall and what he has done, and i love the major focus of this is going to be on democracy. he has upheld it with voting rights. he has upheld it with his fight to save ukraine and to stand up for democracy. he has fought for it with how he has done things for the people, which is --. and i think everyone is going to want to give him a big hug. >> so alex, it is interesting as we have been talking to aids to the president they say his involvement in the convention will be limited monday night but he will travel out west and see the spotlight, pass the torch to harris and to walz. but they say he's going to come back after a rough day with an aggressive campaign schedule. he will campaign for the vice president, for her running mate as often as they want him to

do. he jokes i will campaign for you or against you, whatever happens most but there is certainly a role for president biden. >> i looked at you over the years as basically a shadow for president biden, but before he became president entering his vice presidential years. and you know him very well. give me a quick sense of how you think he may emotionally be approaching this speech tomorrow night? it is a passing of the torch comet is winding up half a century of respected career. >> this is going to be really interesting moments, when you consider the ways in which he had to surrender the nomination. his own party, which he has felt a loyal soldier for throughout his more than half- century in a democratic politics, really pushed him out of the race. so it's going to be mixed of emotions to be sure, not on just the part of the president but the first lady who will introduce him. there is a plane full of president biden supporters from

wilmington, planning to arrive tomorrow as well. and so there's going to be a bittersweet nature to this but he has committed, knowing his legacy is tied much to what happens in november and he wants to see vice president succeed in the oval office. >> thank you for that candid response. thank you for that. the harris/walz bus tour, whose reaching and who's going to get on board, the man sank in charge of pennsylvania joins me when we are back in 90 seconds. seconds. and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

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stop with kamala harris and tim walz. there continuing on the bus tour through southwestern pennsylvania and moments ago she spoke with the supporters there and in rochester, specifically weaver county. joining me from one of the campaign stops, this one in pittsburgh, we have lieutenant governor of pennsylvania, austin davis. good to see you again, thank you for joining me. pennsylvania is nothing new for kamala harris. it is trip number eight this year. why is the southwestern part of the estate the focus today? what is a about that area of the state that needs the attention? >> thank you so much for having me, it is great to be back with you. southwestern pennsylvania is extremely important to democrats, victory here and is a statewide election, you can't win pennsylvania without places like philadelphia and also allegheny county and the counties surrounding allegheny county. democrats have to make sure that we perform and we have to make sure we speak to working-

class voters in that region. i grew up in the mann valley region of allegheny county in those communities like mckeesport, duquesne, clarington, close to rochester and voters want to see candidates up close and personal. they want to feel them and want to know they are fighting for them and their values. i think vice president harris demonstrated that throughout her entire career. >> you think part of that hope from this bus tour, is to peel away from voters or do you think you only need electorally speaking, getting the vote of independents and undecided for us. >> no, i think this bus tour is about bringing everybody to the kamala harris campaign. democrats, republicans, independent press. you have to win a certain number of republicans, there has to be crossover appeal to win pennsylvania. we are a purple state. we expect this election will be close, the last election was less than a percentage point. i suspect this election will be equally close so every vote counts, every vote matters, every community matters and the

vice president demonstrated that throughout the course of her career and specifically throughout the course of this campaign. >> to that statement right there, donald trump has also returned to your state repeatedly. he was there last night. he and his running mate j.d. vance will be back on monday. of course is rally in a butler resulted in the assassination attempt. the wall street journal today says he keeps going back because he sees an opening with disaffected democrats in the rural and blue-collar parts of the state. is that a viable approach for trump, focusing on them? >> the reality is, when donald trump comes back to pennsylvania, and we saw this last night, he offers no vision for pennsylvanians. he offers no vision on the economy. he offers no vision for workers and look, let's not forget, we saw donald trump for four years in the white house and we know what happened. i went up under the trump administration. we saw a pandemic that raged

out of control. we saw small businesses close and we saw an economy that was brought to its knees. so donald trump has a record quite frankly of wrecking our economy and not standing up for pennsylvania workers. he can keep coming all he wants. is not putting forward a vision that moves pennsylvanians forward. and he's not putting forward a vision for the future. >> look, donald trump was critical of kamala harris last time he talked about fracking and i'm curious your response in terms of how important fracking is for the state of pennsylvania. the fact is, it is the second biggest producer of natural gas in the country. it is a big deal. >> so pennsylvania has a proud history of energy production. we are and all and energy state and the reality is, there are two tickets that have been put forward. there's only one chick ticket that has consistently stood up for workers and that is kamala harris. as attorney general she prosecuted wage theft to make

sure that workers want taken advantage of. as vice president she has stood on the picket line with uaw workers, fighting for better wages and better health care. so it is clear which candidate is actually on the side of workers and kamala harris is that candidate. >> she has invested in workers, she supported workers. what do you think pennsylvanians will trust her to not undermine, in any way, the natural gas development they have in the state, the fracking and the like. again, it is an economic life source for so many. >> the reality is, vice president harris has come out and said she is opposed to a ban on fracking. she has committed to making sure she is creating jobs in the commonwealth. so i believe that voters in pennsylvania can trust her, to make sure she's creating, her administration is creating family sustaining jobs, creating an economy that works for everyone of us, that lowers cost and stands up for workers rights to organize and join a union.

donald trump and j.d. vance will not do that. simply put, --. >> the latest polls and pennsylvania show kamala harris closing in on donald trump. in fact they are pretty much neck and neck but trump typically pulls better on the economy. could harass pop economic proposal she's been laying out this week and is likely to expand upon at the dnc, could that help close the gap? >> i think you have already seen a number of polls get closer but i will tell you, the only poll that matters is on election day and this is going to be a close election and i think vice president harris has put out a vision for the future that helps lower cost, that puts workers first, that helps working-class families all across pennsylvania. and i think it is clear that she's going to be the candidate that's going to move working- class families forward, move our economy forward. so i think this is going to be equally close election. i think more people get to digest her economic plan, the more they are going to like it.

she rolled out last week she's going to expand upon it at the convention and we have i think 80 days left for folks to really understand the vision she's putting forward. so i believe at the end of this election, the choice is going to be clear on who is better on the economy, whose better for workers and that is going to be kamala harris. >> pennsylvania lieutenant governor austin davis, hope to see you again soon. have a good one. >> see you soon. my next question nose kamala harris and we will talk to her about how progressive harris will really be if she wins in november. in november. [smoke alarm] recipes written by hand and lost to time... can now be analyzed and restored using the power of dell ai. preserving memories and helping to write new ones. ♪ getting older is part of the journey, even with worsening heart failure. so when i had carpal tunnel syndrome,

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at half past the hour we are giving a look at live pictures from the democratic national convention in chicago were kamala harris is set to expand on her newly released economic agenda, when she takes the stage on thursday. her proposals are already getting support from some of the most progressive lawmakers on the economy. >> i think she laid out today

was a strong, progressive agenda obviously and in the weeks and months to come, i think she's going to add more specificity to some of these proposals and she's going to add to it. >> families across this country struggle with prices and kamala harris fights for those families. >> harris' economic plan includes a $6000 child tax credit for newborns, $25,000 for first home buyers, a federal ban on price gouging for groceries and food, lowering the cost of prescription drugs and canceling medical debt for millions of americans. but as nbc news reports, gone are the days of skyscraper ambitions, of medicare for all and a green new deal. grasses are focusing on a more pragmatic agenda, then we saw in in 2020. joining me now is our friend, democratic congressman from california, a member of the progressive caucus. it is good to see you as always, and i'm going to tell viewers as you are doing, you were nodding as i was reading

off the part about pragmatic proposals. what are your thoughts on harris' economic puzzles, and you think adventism is a way to appeal to a broader element of -- and win in a november? >> i absolutely think we should be having and working in the real world. as i see it, the harris plan is building on the biden plan, which i would argue, is one where he has been making the most progressive president in modern history as well as most effective. this is an administration that has been incredibly prounion, pro-job. they created jobs, for gave student loan debt to the tune of $167 billion. lowered costs for seniors and historic investments to write against climate change. the harris plan is building upon that, with all the things that you mentioned. someone from california, one we are dealing with earthquakes and our fires and our floods, price gouging pops up.

i would expect that is something other states across the country have to deal with as well. and is a member of the progressive caucus, we put forth our platform and we had a very intentional discussion among members, where we said, we have to be automatic. based on the numbers of who's in congress and the very tight margins, should we push for medi-cal for all right now or should we take incremental steps that will lead us to where we want to be, which is medical costs that are affordable and assessable for everyone. and i think vice president harris is on the right path with a plan that is realistic and pragmatic given the times we are in them. >> let's talk about the washington post editorial board, which as you know criticized her proposal saying harris' squandered the moment on populist gimmicks. jason furman, formerly of the obama administration told you not -- the "new york times", efforts to curb corporate price gouging may keep week economy

from adjusting. he said it is not sensible policy and the big hope is it ends up being a lot of rhetoric and no reality. there is no upside here and there is downside. what you make of the concerns? >> i will say, people complained about aca and now folks can't get enough of it. people complained that the ira and bipartisan infrastructure law were going to do anything and we created record low unemployment and we have kept inflation down. so i would hope the naysayers would want to work with the vice president and sort of help adjust, or advise on additional ways to continue to flesh out the plan. but have a little faith because this is a woman who comes from california where we have incredibly high prices and she understands what the average american is dealing with and she also understands the impacts that often times things like price gouging can have on working families and small businesses.

so i don't agree with what the washington post is saying and we want her to flesh out and give us more specifics as she gets closer to november. >> you are with kamala harris the week she launched this campaign and now roughly three weeks later we are seeing her rise in the polls against donald trump that there is no question, it is a tight race. you're going to be at the dnc this week so how important will her introduction to voters, nationwide the, particularly as trump just tries day after day to vilify her? >> i am excited to go back to chicago, my hometown and for once, california will be at the front. so i am excited about that. this is going to be her opportunity to share her platform, and going beyond the talking points, this is going to be her opportunity to reintroduce herself to the country. and the dnc should be making sure that we are connecting, led to the country and connecting the country to

kamala. people need to know about her story. she's a woman of high integrity. she's personable. she is relatable, she's resilient, she's tireless. she is committed to public service and once americans, both in the choir at the dnc and those who don't know her, hear her story and really hear her voice and see that she's talking to them, i am hoping the energy that comes out of the dnc will turn into action as we need to mobilize and have her across the finish line. and get a congressional majority that is democratic across the finish line in november as well. >> california congresswoman, thank you. the many protests expected this week, reverend al sharpton on how kamala harris will address israel's war with hamas, when she takes the stage, next. stage, next. this reminds me of my bike. the wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle. have you seen it, by the way? happy birthday, grandma!

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based on who you lift up. >> [ applause ] >> that's what we see as strength. we know what strength looks like. that is what strength looks like. >> there you have it, vice president harris a short time ago in pennsylvania along with running mate minnesota governor tim walz on the road to the convection. let's go to nbc's nnamdi egwuonwu right in the city of rochester. a big welcome to you again. tell us what they said to the campaign volunteers. >> what you heard from the visible today were off-the-cuff casualty of -- casual remarks with governor walz representing his time as a football coach, talking about the fact they are spreading joy in their campaign. his wife gwen walz spoke using words like inspirational to talk about how she sees their campaign and its efforts and vice president harris, really once again pulling the line we

have heard from president biden during his visits to the state, emphasizing this is a fight for democracy and really sort of building the contrast without directly mentioning the former president. but between herself and him, this november. one thing i think you saw a glimpse of during the remarks are the strength of both governor walz and the second gentleman. they really do shine in and these smaller settings, the retail stop settings where they are not constrained to scripted remarks and can talk. i've seen the second gentleman do it in a battleground states across the country and we are seeing more and or of governor walz. this is where they shine and part of the reason the campaign is going with this format. so we now know where they are going to go after this is more stops like you just saw. they are going to visit small businesses, that they are only going to make a stop at a volunteer appreciation event. and so you have an idea why they are praising volunteers, listen to what governor walz had to say about how he thinks the election is going to be won.

>> we are all in this together. i think this is a room that knows this campaign will be won in rooms just like this across the country. it will be run with people sitting on the phone banks and dialing numbers, and people picking up the phone on a sunday. and having somebody say, do you have a minute to talk about the future of our country. that is a pretty big step. >> reporter: so alex, the campaigns you as you heard, there's only so much they can do to convince undecided voters themselves. they think there's more power and having people in their own communities serve as surrogates and that is why

-- when she takes the stage on thursday and lays out her vision for the country's future. joining me from chicago is my msnbc colleague, reverend al sharpton, bosa politics nation and president of the national action network. really good friend, too. we can lead with that. anyway , let's talk about the war in gaza. it is an issue, it is talking the harris campaign. due to her role in the administration. give me a sense of the challenges the vice president vases over the u.s. support for israel, and how you expect she's going to address the war when she speaks thursday in prime time. >> i think she's going to -- she and the administration have been in support of israel but many of us are concerned about the humanitarian efforts to really stop the killing of civilians and dealing with the fact that you can support the war against hamas but you do

not have to kill palestinians that are innocent. most palestinians are not hamas . everyone condemns what happened october 7th but when you deal with 35,000 people killed in gaza, where is the way that you balance that all, particularly when you deal with children that were killed. she has a challenge with how she deals with the administrations positions and dealing with the civilian casualties. and even children. i think that is going to be a challenge. but i think she is up for the challenge. she has spoken up about the killing of civilians. how she handles it thursday night, we will probably not know until thursday night. but a lot of people will be demonstrating and be in the streets here in in chicago, and hopefully we will not see anything like we saw in 1968 when i was a kid, but i think that people have the right to

protest that we should protest, keeping in mind that we are not in support of violence anywhere , and particularly what is interesting to me is that we must remember, donald trump is very close to netanyahu, many of us, that are saying we support what happened, to those israelis and those who are hostages, at the hand of hamas emma but at the same time, we do not support netanyahu. you do not have to be pro- netanyahu to be pro-israel. >> so president biden speaks monday, as you know and that will be followed by appearances by the next generation of democratic leaders. really given the generational torch being passed, and you think the convention will seek to present a new vision for the party? do you sense this convention is going to feel different now with kamala harris at the top of the ticket? >> i think the difference will be that kamala harris

represents a new generation and will be moving into the old. and a lot of people from different environmental groups, different groups of women leadership, civil-rights leadership, all of us will be involved. and i think that big tent, down to the grassroots kind of politics is what is going to give energy for this party, to do what it is supposed to do at this time. let's not forget, the energy we've already seen, since kamala harris entered this race, you see the numbers, 15,000 people at rallies and these are not people that are blessed in. these are organic rising up of people and it is exciting to see. i think she generated excitement beyond anyone's prediction. >> i'm

if the bus tour is any indication, they realize that and it gives donald trump something to be concerned about. and let's not forget in the middle of this, we may see, if the day holds, sentencing of donald trump on 34 felony convictions in manhattan

criminal court. so everyone talking about the debate, let's also talk about, he's going to be one that reminds the country that he has 34 convicted felons. as someone who fought to get ex- felons the right to vote in florida, that he voted early and florida as a convicted felon. >> that is stunning, isn't it? rev, thank you. for all of you, catch the rev on politics nation at 5:00 eastern, also this week at the dnc on msnbc. what economists think about kamala harris' plan. . shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you're not at risk for shingles? it's time to wake up. because shingles could wake up in you.

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100 days in office. the plan centers on ways to lower the cost of living, including a federal ban on price gouging. we are bringing right now, mike sandy, chief economist at moody's analytics. good to see my friend. let me get a quote from you, mark. you said people's perceptions of the economy and most issues are heavily influenced and colored by the political prism they are looking through. when that prism changes, which it did when biden withdrew and harris took the mantle, people's perceptions changed. how have perceptions changed over the last four weeks and what is your assessment of what we heard on friday quite >> alex, if you look at the surveys and the polls, i think it is a good test of people's perceptions, and prior to harris taking the mantle and being the nominee, for president biden, under tremendous pressure regarding his policies, people's perceptions of the policies were negative and while there

is a lot of script to be written, with vice president harris now taking over, perceptions have changed and surveys of people's perceptions are better. they are not great, people are still anxious about the cost of living in particular but it feels like they are doing better psychologically than they were before. so a lot depends on how you look at these things and from what clinical prism you are viewing them. with regard to vice president harris' policies, there is a lot to digest. like most things, some of it, i really like, some are okay, some not so much. i need to know a lot more. the thing that i like the best about the proposals, is what you said, the focus is focused on the cost of living and clearly, that is top of mind for many americans and most voters. and she's talking about how she's going to bring down the cost of housing for rent and homeownership. cost of prescription drugs, how

to bring those down, the cost of childcare, the child tax credit and the cost of groceries. she's got proposals to address all of those things. on the house inside, that is where i feel best about it because she's focused on trying to increase the supply of housing and goodness knows we need a lot more homes, affordable homes for people to rent and own. on price gouging, that is where i am a little unsure. i need to know more. i think it is fair game for the government to shine a bright light on competitive practices and pricing policies. that is what the federal trade commission does for living and that is good because it creates transparency in pricing. but anything that smacks of price-fixing, you know, i don't think it works. it leads to shortages so we have to hear more on that but there is a lot there. >> what about changes between biden and harris on economic

policy? are there notable once in your mind and if so, what are they? >> actually they are similar. the way i viewed it is that her proposal, as she laid it out last week, are additive to the proposals that she and president biden have put forward in the fiscal year 2025 budget. so that is a very involved budget with lots of changes in policies and you can see exactly what the costs are and how is it plays out over time and what impact it has on deficits and debt. she's taking that as her starting point to say now, what do we need to do to make this work better for the american people that are focus on the cost of living. so in general, i would say that it is the biden/harris policies of before with some twists and a different focus, focus on cost-of-living. >> me a sense of voters and if they are truly embracing the harris/walz economic policies. there is a new survey the initial times in which harris slightly edged out donald trump as the one that voters trust to

handle the economy. what you think this is? bucket goes back to perceptions, the change here is to change people's prism and the way they are looking at things. that has had an impact that real quick, you have been vocal about your opinion, that the fed should have cut interest rates this summer. when you think that is going to happen? but good news, i think september, they are finally convinced. they have achieved their goals, the employment rate is 4.3%, it is edging hard because we have a lot of folks coming into the workforce, looking for work that inflation is still coming in it is moderating, it looks really good and all the trend lines look good. i think they got a scare last week with the volatility of the

financial markets and realized they keep rates too high, they might break something. so i think they are there now. >> i am crossing my fingers as i say thank you so much. the words that i've donald trump super and see, september 18th, just a month away. n get y every hair in one stroke. for the ultimate gillette shaving experience. the best a man can get is gillettelabs. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

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giving you a look at the speaker lineup at the democratic national convention, here so you can look forward to. a lot of people looking forward to a lot of those folks, particularly tuesday night with the announcement today that michelle obama will join her has been on the stage. so to hear everybody speaking, tune in to our special coverage on msnbc and prime time. we will start at 6:00 p.m. tomorrow night and go all the way through midnight. we hope you will tune in then for us. we have donald trump's felony conviction and has money trial, looming over his campaign. his layers asked to delay

sentencing except september 18th, they have asked to wait until after the election. just two days earlier the judge will decide whether to drop comes conviction in light of the supreme court's decision on presidential immunity should he deny that motion, trump's lawyers argue they want time to let a higher court review the ruling. let's have a quick chat with joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst. a couple of minutes for questions to you. starting with september 16th, is there any chance judge merchan will say the supreme court's decision on presidential immunity will apply to this case? >> reporter: they really shouldn't. this is all about pre- presidential conduct and the only argument trump has is that some of the evidence that prosecutors used involved conversations he had in the oval office. even that doesn't make sense, if you contract bills before you come president and you pay them in the office, which is

what trump was doing with the stormy daniels hush money, that doesn't somehow convert pre- presidency bills into official acts. >> so then assuming judge merchan has heard you, rejects the immunity claim and attempts team says let's get a higher court to review this, review the decision and ask her to delay the sentencing until after the election. should he do that, or is it just another attempt at the lake? again, that is the trump playbook. delay, delay, delay. >> it is and this is trump asking for favors that no other criminal defendant goetz. he's entitled to appeal the judge after sentencing, but not before. >> donald trump faces four years in prison. for suboxone he actually end up behind bars and what he have to serve sentence immediately or would it be put on hold pending appeals. is there any chance he would be starting to serve a sentence before election day? 's but no, absolutely not. look, the sentence, the amount and whether it is custodial is

in judge merchan's discretion. that donald trump is like every other defendant, entitled to appeal it. appeal it. discretion. donald trump, like every other o defendant, is entitled to appeal it. here is where he will make the constitutional argument. the smart thing to do is to allow him to remain out on bond until the higher court has a crack at the sentence and make sure everything is in order. e >> you think they will take that up with expediency? >> i think it will go up quickly. i think donald trump will lose. this case is about pre- presidential conduct. there is nothing official about it. >> okay, i love pretty much everything about you when you talk about this, especially when i see a couple minutes and you do it in a couple minutes. that will do it for me on this edition of alex with reports. we will be back next weekend. "prime: weekend" is coming