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welcomed the prime time weekend. i'm nicolle wallace. with get right to the top stories of the week. each of you know what it means to stare down danger and summoned strength in the moment of a trial. we are very grateful for all that you three have done, and so many more. >> all the privileges of this office, none is greater than serving as the commander in chief of the finest military the world has ever seen. and of all the military declarations of our nation that we can bestow, we have none higher than the medal of honor. >> when you meet a veteran who wears that medal , remember the moment. because you are looking at one of the bravest ever to where our country's uniform. >> today we recognize seven men
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as being among the bravest of the brave. each of them distinguish themselves with extraordinary valor and the famous words at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. the highest military honor one can receive -- to individuals who exhibit extraordinary bravery in, and sometimes make the ultimate sacrifice. this highest honor for valor has been awarded to just 3000 and 519 recipients -- 3519 recipients who have served our country. among those remarkable recipients are desmond, a world war ii army medic who put himself in danger. a rescued 75 men off the top of a cliff. staff sergeant ronald j sherman the second. he saved several soldiers when they went under attack from a machine gun and sniper fire in afghanistan.
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he died in the attack because -- no one died in the attack because of his valiant effort. milton all is, the first african-american soldier to receive this honor. at the age of 18, he sacrificed his life to save others by falling on a grenade. mary edwards walker was an acting assistant surgeon during the civil war and the only female recipient of the medal of honor. commander howard gilmore was killed in action during world war ii and his summary was under attack. when he realized he could not get back into the vessel in time for it to escape, he yelled take her down and sacrificed himself. and there's a face familiar to all of you. retired u.s. army colonel jack jacobs. during the vietnam war, with impaired vision from injuries, he pulled 14 men to safety while he was under enemy fire. with all of that fresh in your
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mind, listen to what donald trump, the republican nominee for president said out loud with cameras rolling last night at a fundraiser at his golf club. he was speaking about awarding mirian adelson, the widow of gop mega donor, with the highest civilian honor. >> i had to say, miriam, i watched sheldon sitting so proud when we gave miriam the presidential medal of freedom. that's the highest award you can get as a civilian. it's the equivalent of the congressional medal of honor, but the civilian version. it's actually much better because everyone gets the congressional medal of honor. they are either in very bad shape because they have been hit so many times by bullets or they are dead. she gets it and she is healthy beautiful woman. >> so again, nothing cut on secret, hidden camera. public statements. a disgusting and shameful
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display from anyone, but especially someone who wants to be the country's commander-in- chief. it's a flagrant display of disrespect to the men and women who put their lives on the line and commit her heroic acts on the battlefield to protect all of us and our way of life. friend of the show and retired marine corps lieutenant colonel amy mcgrath put it this way. no, the medal of honor is on the equipment of the medal trump gave to rush limbaugh and jim jordan. no, they are not rated equal. not even close. every single member of the military knows the significance of the medal of honor. every single commander-in-chief in the history of america knows the significance of this medal except donald trump. and it is galling as his comments are, at this point, they are not surprising. given the ex-president's long history of disparaging our
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veterans, publicly and privately. his chief of staff confirmed that he called those who fought for our country suckers and losers. he question why some one would serve in the united states military and he even criticized former senator john mccain, a prisoner of war, for being captured. this is who donald trump really is and this is where we start the hour with some of our favorite military experts and friends. medal of honor recipient and retired army colonel jack jacobs is here with us, along with retired four-star general and msnbc military analyst, barry mccaffrey. plus, retired u.s. marine corps -- action pac, the afro mentioned amy mcgrath, and a host of the independent americans podcasts, founder and ceo of the independent veterans of america and founder of iraq and afghanistan veterans of america, paul rieckhoff is here. i can't believe we have to have this conversation, but here we
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are. i guess, do your peers, do the men and women, do veterans, to the men and women of the military understand that donald trump, not only doesn't respect them, but really does see them as suckers and losers? >> many do, but many don't. despite the fact that donald trump is one of the most inept public speakers i have heard and i'm an old person so i've been around a great deal. i've heard a great number of public speakers and you often don't know what it is he is saying, very digressive and so on, drifted off and castigating people who have served and sacrificed and can't tell the difference between between the medal of freedom and the medal of honor. we have to remember that this is the man who, as you said, denigrated people who served
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and sacrificed so that he could enjoy the freedom that he enjoys now and if it weren't for these people, he wouldn't be in the position where he could enjoy, all of us wouldn't be in the position where we can enjoy freedom. the other thing to keep in mind is that this is also the guy who managed to avoid serving because of a really deleterious heel spur on his foot. all of that notwithstanding, the problem in this regard is that donald trump does not understand some of the things which, in history, have described how we get to a position where we can have freedom. that is through the service and sacrifice of others. i am reminded of the observation of halal -- the first century hebrew scholar, if i am only for myself, what am i? well, if you are only for yourself, you're probably donald trump.
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or the observation, almost as poignantly of john stuart mill, who wrote about war. trump would have liked him because he was a bit of a libertarian who wrote that a man for whom nothing is more important than his own safety is a miserable creature who is made free and kept free by better men than he, nicole. >> i love that. colonel jack, you might be mad at me for doing this, but i'm going to do two things. i am going to show our viewers some of the video of when president nixon awarded you this mental and i'm going to share a little bit -- this medal and i'm going to share a little bit of your service. you came under intense heavy machine gun and mortar fire from a via con -- vietcong battalion. the ordered -- established a defensive perimeter and despite your own wounds, profuse booting
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-- bleeding, disregard for your own safety, you returned intense fire to evacuate a seriously wounded adviser to the safety of a wooded area where you administered life- saving first aid, you then return through heavy automatic weapons fire to evacuate the wounded company commander. you made repeated trips across the fire swept open rice patties, evacuating wounded and their weapons, your actions save the lives of the u.s. adviser and 13 allied soldiers. we don't -- brian williams probably did and that's one of the many reasons we miss him, but we don't read all that every time we ask for your advice but some of what, i worry about many things when i worry about donald trump, but i worry about the erasure of selflessness and i worry that what donald trump normalizes in his disgust of veterans and
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those who lose their lives, i mean one of the most harrowing things i think i read during this whole presidency was that he stood with general kelly and didn't understand basically his pride in having a son who sacrifice, who lost his life serving the country. he sees people who put something other than themselves above self-interest as suckers and losers. that is his words. what do we do in the country with the fact that he has been elevated a third time, that an entire political party elevated somebody who sees service that way? >> we all have to do a much better job of educating not only this generation, but people who are voting now, but future generations about the importance of democracy and how costly it is to get it and to keep it. we have, listen. you are looking at someone who believes in universal service. anyone free to live in a free
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country owes the service and it's only until we have a system in which everybody has to make a contribution to freedom that we will value those things and therefore reject those who think that people who serve and sacrifice are losers. those of us who have served in combat, general mccaffrey and everyone else who has been in uniform, but particularly those who have served in combat understand how important it is that we take care of each other. that is how we defeat the enemy and we come home and we preserve freedom. unless we can educate future generations about the importance of doing that, that that is the route to freedom. we will always be at risk in this situation, we will be at risk, we will be at risk from demagogues who try to negate the efforts of those who made this country great, it's
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education is the only way we can reach into the future. and we have to do a much better job of educating our future generations, nicole. >> general mccaffrey, you, too, might be mad at me, but i'm going to do this. you received three purple hearts for injuries sustained during your service in the vietnam war -- the second- highest united states army for valor. and i guess part of the reason i wanted to remind all of our viewers of your contributions to our country is because i truly find it terrifying that someone has been elevated by the voters, again, one of the two parties who, again, would redefine heroism and patriotism and service to mean that his
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wife is the same as you and colonel jack. i find that offensive to the point -- >> one of the better stories by jack jacob is not the only medal of honor recipient piece, but he insisted on going back to vietnam at the end of the war. the army like to keep our fuel living -- when he got back there, the helicopter was shot down, he was darn near killed, rejoining his unit. it's an interesting sort of record. the medal of freedom is a distinguished, glorious award to recognize science, medicine, athletes, artists, musicians. it's a terrific award and the recipient that trump was talking about in public, who has a salient aspect towards a
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buyout that she is worth $28 million and she funds trump. so we ought to put that aside but look, at the end of the day , mr. trump and that sort of incoherent babble talk, it's hard to sort out what he was really saying is someone who has no understanding of public service. it's just foreign to his idea. at one point, told howard stern in a radio interview that he deserves a medal of honor for not getting an std during vietnam. so there's a comical disillusioned aspect of the man that's really shocking as you point out. >> general mccaffrey, you tweeted this. it's impossible to believe that trump is a presidential candidate can sound as
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ignorant. disordered language, incoherent thinking, fifth-grade stuff. yes, and there's such a long line now of insults for the men and women of the military. not going to the cemetery in paris. not wanting wounded veterans to be seen at ceremonies, because, quote, nobody wants to see that. the losers and suckers, the insults for john mccain. they insults for george bush the first. i mean at what point do we really settle into and understand that he has disdain for the men and women of the military? >> you know, if the world turned upside down, it's hard for me to even follow a bouncing ball, and as chairman john kelly, marine four-star, enlisted marine, maids -- combat veteran, lost his son, a young marine lieutenant in combat in afghanistan. he is the one to step forward
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and said, publicly, look, this guy didn't want to go to the cemetery in europe, nor in arlington. what would their motivation be to sacrifice their life for this country, we've got to believe that that's actually what he said and that's what he believes and thinks and in my judgment, it makes him unqualified to be the president of the united states. i think of veterans, though, as jack pointed out, are supporting trump and they are blocking out this message for a variety of reasons, which the democratic party better figure out why that is because on the face of it, he is incoherent. he is unqualified, he is ignorant. this is childish stuff and that is who is running for president, the republican party now. bad situation for all of us.
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>> all right, no one is going anywhere. we have much more with our panel as donald trump demonstrates, once again, again and again, his disrespect and disdain for those who don the uniform for our country, and in some cases, have made the ultimate sacrifice. known as a loving parent. known for lessons that matter. known for being a free spirit. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer, where keytruda is approved to be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you do not have an abnormal “egfr” or “alk” gene. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache,
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i am proud of my service to this country. and i firmly believe that you should never denigrate another person service record. anyone brave enough to put that uniform on for -- a few simple words. thank you for your service and sacrifice. >> we are back with -- amy and paul. amy, we have had this rolling conversation that i think gets really close to this nerve, right, that if you believe in
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your country and you serve your country, it's something extra, it's something better than the rest of us. to see a candidate for president say no, it's not. this one is better. this medal for this person who never served is better is so into disorienting. it almost doesn't have it almost scrambles the circuits and i wonder, from your view, from your purge, from your service, from your active role in the politics, what the appropriate sort of response is to someone who sees the world and sees service in our military that way. >> well, first of all, when i heard about it last night, i was shocked, just the same way anybody watching that would be shocked. even after all these years of watching trump i was shocked. under no, in no planet is it okay to say that the medal that you gave to your rich donor is
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better than or even the same as the medal of honor and i think, you know, it just shows this total lack of understanding of what it means to be commander in chief, a total lack of understanding of the culture of the united states military, the culture of the greatest fighting force that's ever been around on this planet. it just like, i think about it, donald trump is not even fit to be in the room with colonel jacobs. >> you know, amy, we talked a lot about how impactful chairman -- or secretary mattis would be and i been unsparing in my enthusiasm for them to step into the public arena. i heard this comment yesterday and i really have a different layer of understanding about how painful it must of been to
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serve someone who wanted his generals, make no mistake, he didn't view them as american heroes the way the public did, the way most people did. he viewed them as my generals. general kelly was his general and in trump's mind, the subservient to him, not in the chain of command, but in the way someone that worked at one of his clubs is. that's how trump saw these men and women. they were a lot of -- there were not a lot of women at the high level but amy i wonder if it's just too painful to sort of relive what it was like to work for someone who wanted his generals to be more like the germans and when general kelly pressed him about which germans, it was clear he meant nazis. what it was like to denigrate general kelly's own son who paid the ultimate price for our own country. i just wonder if this comment yesterday deepens our understanding of why some of
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those men don't want to way into our politics? >> well, i think some have and general kelly, as was brought up earlier, has said, look, donald trump said these things. so i do think some have come out. what i wish for, you know, general mattis and some others to come forward a little bit more? yeah. i would and i can't speak to the reasons why they haven't. but a number of people have and i do believe that, you know, we should listen to them and we should continue to talk about this because it is important. it is important for our country. how can we have a commander-in- chief fundamentally does not understand the nation's highest honor and the sacrifices and what it all means. it's not an honor, as trump said, given to people who have been shot or injured.
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yes, there are some that have been injured and shot, you know, getting or earning that medal, but it is a medal for bravery. it's a medal for when you jump on a grenade to help your buddies, to save their lives. it's a medal as a pilot for going back and taking your machine back into battle where you can be shot down and killed in order to save someone else. that is what this medal is about and donald trump has no clue about that or he never would have made these comments. >> paul rieckhoff, -- for his disdain for the military service because if you love our adversaries and enemies, you don't understand that american men and women, generations of them paid with their lives for us to live a totally different way of life here in a free democracy.
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just talk about what these comments revealed for you, if anything. >> this is who donald trump is. you know, he's been this guy from the beginning. he can't change who he is and he's doubling down on it over and over again. he swear he doesn't even back off and i wanted to be on a panel with these heroes. and i'm glad that you read his citation. i should read it. i told him to read it but it probably wouldn't matter because this is a giant, teachable moment. everybody watching, especially young people are going to better understand what the medal of honor means, what freedom really means, what leadership means. what it means is sacrifice and that is what donald trump is unwilling to do and that is why putin and everone else are celebrating. enemies are celebrating when they see a former commander-in- chief attack our military and
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he has done it over and over again. he has done it to john mccain, he's done it in so many ways and even if it's not malicious or it's an attempt to undermine her government, it's sloppy and it's unacceptable and it's. -- weird. it's really more than about being trump. the question now is for the americans were on the fence. this is not just about him, it's about you. are you okay with a guy being our commander-in-chief who thinks that way about people like jack jacobs? and about people like buddy who just lost a couple of weeks ago. people like sal. if he feels that way about a medal of honor recipient, how do you think he feels about you as an average person, somewhere in ohio or pennsylvania and florida? i think that is the deeper conversation we have to have here because if he feels that way about our country superheroes, he feels that way and probably even worse about the everyman and everyone. eve. offers at your
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again, to all of us, i would say in the spirit of the great senator john mccain, please -- please, please join
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me in putting country over party and stopping -- and stopping donald trump and protecting the rule of law, protecting the constitution and protecting the democracy of this great country. >> it feels as if the four corners of the harris-walz big tent expanded in that moment and continues to expand by the hour in order to accommodate an ever larger, evermore animated and terminated -- determined coalition. one diverse, one of verse in matters of policy, but one united in purpose and in recognizing this moment. that is to prevent a coup planning -- want to be dictator from ever stepping into the
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white house again. we are talking about lifelong republicans putting country over party. you heard from miss arizona -- mesa, arizona john giles. welcome susan molinari, telling new york one that she believes kamala harris is smart, strong, knows how to handle herself on the world stage and oh, yeah, quote, she is not crazy, she adds. simply a potent argument and one that is evidently gaming steam -- gaining steam for those who would otherwise not cease the after mention john giles and former senior adviser to vice president mike pence, number of the republicans for harassment her old friend, olivia troy is here. mr. mayor, you gave a tremendous speech. i played it yesterday. i was happy to get to play it again today on the occasion of you being here. this is not an original thought but i saw it -- if you said
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something to john mccain in a trump rally, people would not have clapped and applauded. having the privilege of working with him, it made me emotional. to see that the pro-democracy movement and to give credit to the democratic coalition for letting folks like us into it. you had an incredibly enthusiastic reception there. just tell me what it's been like to be the messenger? >> i'm a big fan of senator mccain, as well. i worked for him as an interim when i was -- intern when he was congressman john mccain. i've been the mayor for 10 years so the first six or seven years, five or six years of that, i got to work with senator mccain, as well. it is painful to see the way that he is treated by the republican party now. it is shameful and that is part of what motivates me to speak up. i generally try to avoid
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partisan fights. it's not necessarily productive to my goal of being a good mayor, but occasionally, you have to wade into these waters and defending the good name of john mccain is a cause that i am anxious to be involved in. >> and i just love the spontaneous applause. you didn't even stop for the applause. it just arrested. i wanted to ask you what you, what conversations you are having, not in front of thousands and thousands of people, but what are your sort of private persuasion messages to republicans? >> well, there's been a lot of them. i was stopped yesterday in the gym by a couple of young men who had concerns. they were, you know, watching a lot of fox news and they were telling me that they could never afford to buy a house now and one of my thinking come a why am i becoming a democrat? and there's multiplying that by by thousands in all over the country. it's easy sometimes to forget that this country remains very
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divided and there are a lot of folks that are misinformed and i think it's important that vice president harris continues to run like she is behind because underestimating donald trump is something that we do at our own peril. so we do need to engage in the grocery store lines and the churches and everywhere and try to overcome some of the conservative propaganda that's out there. preaching that the vice president is an accidental threat to our country. we need to get good information out to people and, again, run like we are behind. >> olivia troy, one of the places where the disinformation that trump spews, fox news has
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paid millions of dollars in their role for disseminating on behalf of donald trump is about the sanctity of our elections. it's what brought sort of the first high-profile republican liz cheney and adam kinzinger to the side of being republican lightning rods on the pro- democracy side. what is your sense of how much is achievable? >> nicole, i'm inspired. i'm actually inspired by the conversations and i'm inspired by the mayor whose having these conversations with the fox news watchers because i think that is what makes it happen. we need to be reaching these voters and having these one-on- one conversations with them on the center right side. i was in michigan with the vice president last month. i saw her extend the olive branch to republican women and conservative women in that moment and i saw her speaking in a way that was, you know, empathetic and impactful an understanding of how conservatives differ in views.
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but she also said you are welcome as part of this coalition and i think that's what republicans are trying to do. we are saying we don't all have to be agreeing on everything, but the one thing we agree on is that we want a better future for our country, we want to strengthen our democracy, and also we want a better future for the republican party and the best way to do that is by defeating donald trump. ating d check. and when my doctor saw damage, rinvoq helped visibly reduce damage of the intestinal lining. check. rapid symptom relief. lasting, steroid-free remission. and visibly reduced damage. check, check and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin; heart attack, stroke, and gi tears occurred. people 50 and older with a heart disease risk factor have an increased risk of death. serious allergic reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant.
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the poor who ripped away -- staff the board with the people who ripped away roe v. wade. we are not going back, right? say it with me, we are not going back. >> we are not going back! >> when we come michigan, elect kamala harris and tim walz, we can wake up on november 6, the day after the election, and save for the first time, madam president! >> michigan governor gretchen whitmer at a harris-walz rally firing at the crowd and laying up the oh so sharp contrast between vice president kamala harris and donald trump. it's no surprise that governor whitmer is so effective at making the case against trump. she's had to deal with him plenty . during the covid 19
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pandemic, when she called him out for leaving states like hers to defend for themselves and he responded by disparagingly referring to her as, quote, that woman from michigan. war, as she puts it in her fantastic new book, true gretch. politics can feel like bloodsport these day. luckily for me, we went number s have a thick skin and a -- have a thick skin and a short memory. we're good at turning things around, and you can trust me on that, otherwise i'm not that woman from michigan. joining us now is governor whitmer. what i learned about life, leadership, and everything in between. thank you so much for being here. hey, nicole, glad to be with you. >> there's so much political news to get to, but i want to start with the book. it is different for political memoir. it is sort of your signature realness and i wanted to just dive right in. i'm going to read from this incredibly powerful section.
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you wrote, in 2013, i was serving as michigan senate minority leader. that year, the republicans try to push through a bill requiring women in michigan to purchase extra health insurance for abortion coverage, even in cases of incest or rape. my staff and i prepared a speech to prepare on the senate floor, i delivered my remarks as forcefully as possible, letting my anger show. in the back of my mind, though, my thoughts were spinning. for 23 years, had pushed down the awful memory of what happened to me in college. i never in my life imagine talking about it in a public forum. yet suddenly, in the course of one short speech, with tv cameras rolling, i had to decide whether to reveal my deepest secret to the world. once it was out, there was no turning back. >> let me play that moment for everyone, too. >> i shared with many people in my life. but over 20 years ago, i was a victim of rape . and thank god it didn't result in a pregnancy because i can't
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imagine going through what i went through and then having to consider what to do about an unwanted pregnancy from an attacker. as a mother with two girls, the thought that they would ever go through something like i did keeps me up at night. how extreme, how extreme does this measure need to be? i'm not the only woman in our state that has face that horrible circumstance. but i think you need to see the face of the women that you are impacting by this vote today. >> if you are the most powerful person in the world or not, it is the most excruciating thing to talk about. do you still find it extraordinary that on that day, all those years ago, you
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mustered the strength to tell this story? >> yeah. i've got to tell you, just even watching that old clip, i can feel my heart in my throat like i feel it once again and yet -- >> me, too. >> i tell that story in the book because 10 years later, as governor, i got to sign the repeal of that legislation. that part of the book, is a chapter titled never give up. it took 10 years longer than it should have. these fights are worth waging. we can win them and that's what this book is about, putting some light out in the world and a heavy, hard time, and trying to get people little inspiration or maybe you can laugh at my expense. i tell some interesting things about myself i never shared before. i feel hopeful now and never giving up was a part of that philosophy. >> say more about feeling hopeful now. >> i've got to tell you, you know, it's understandable that americans might want to check out. it's been hard, six years of
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the pandemic to the political rhetoric, to all the heavy stuff we've been navigating and yet i find, when i actually -- i get more active is when i feel more hopeful. getting into and listening to people, connecting with people, you know, listening is, i think, a superpower, and not enough people do it, especially politicians. as i see kamala harris and tim walz as the standard bearers of the democratic party now, i know that these are regular people, middle-class folks who understand how to solve problems and that gives me hope. when i see the energy that is happening right now, it still going to be hard and michigan is going to be in the center of
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it all, but i am hopeful and i think seeing my fellow americans and working with people who actually want to solve problems like hairs and walz. >> you know, after trump one in '16, i spent a lot of time in michigan talking to two time voters for president obama who had left the democratic party in support of trump and so much of what they wanted from him he did not deliver on. and it's sort of remarkable that the republican party nominated him a third time. can you tell me what the political fight is? what it, so did what did the voters that are going to be the most contested and where do you think the race stands today? >> michigan is a microcosm of the country and we are the most diverse of all the swing states. i was raised in a household and i talk about this in the book, too, my dad was a traditional republican, maybe a nicolle wallace republican. a democrat, my mother. it was a different time, we can have differences but agree on the facts and have different perspectives on those facts. if we stayed centered on values and solving problems, we wouldn't get so angry that we
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would walk away from the table and not have thanksgiving together. it was a different time and i do think it's really important that we are making space at that table for people who aren't totally bought into the democratic agenda, but can see someone who has actually genuinely trying to solve problems and make their lives better. we have republicans for harris here in michigan. i think that's really important. i didn't win michigan by almost 11 points without pulling a lot of people over the political aisle, republicans and independents. i value that and i understand that kamala harris and tim walz does, too. i know that work is being done here on the ground. >> it's interesting that you pull that. there are a lot of reasons you are one of the most beloved politicians in the country right now. new point to the ability to listen. one of the people that you want to listen to are the people are the plotters of your own plan kidnapping and attack. tell me about that. you wrote about that in the
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book, as well. >> when i wrote that, i didn't know that would strike people as unusual to be honest. i want to learn. you know, whether it's reproductive freedom that we have last fall or in '22 going into an important election where we amended our constitution or it's simply understanding where michigan is. what can i do to make your lives better? fix that roads is what i'm known for, it's asking that question over and over again and asking a follow-up question. why is that so important to you? it's about paying the rent, it's about childcare, it's getting to work on time so i do think that listening is so important, these plotters, let's see. not a usual reaction to a governor telling you to wear a mask. we have 330 million people in this country, 14 wanted to kill the governor for telling them to wear a mask. why? is there something i can learn that will make me a better governor or a better human being, maybe it would be --
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wouldn't be a good use of my time but i would like to try. i see every problem as an opportunity to do more, to do better, and to help someone. >> this has been prime time weekend. i'm nicolle wallace. please tune in to deadline white house and all of our prime time shows weekdays on msnbc. msnbc. get back to better breathg with fasenra, an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma that is taken once every 8 weeks. fasenra is not for sudden breathing problems or other eosinophilic conditions. allergic reactions may occur. don't stop your asthma treatments without talking with your doctor. tell your doctor if your asthma worsens. headache and sore throat may occur. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. step back out there with fasenra. ask your doctor if it's right for you. (♪♪)
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