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what we know about his remarks and the hero's tribute he'll get after 50 plus years of public service. in the protest zone, the party's unity theme inside facing divisions outside. as thousands hit the streets demanding a policy change in gaza. we're live with the crowds. plus, voters and the vibe session, as donald trump and kamala harris battle over the economy. we'll break down the real numbers behind perceptions that could drive the election. and the new immigration plan unveiled just as the dnc kicks off. it aims to keep families together with protections for undocumented spouses. so a lot to get to, let's begin with nbc's monica alba who joins me on set with a preview of the dnc's first night. so what are we expecting, monica? >> i think for joe biden, this is a speech this evening that in his head he had imagined very differently just a couple of weeks ago but that the content is not all together completely that different, his advisers

argue. he's still going to lay out his key themes of what he base ds -- based his own reelection bid on, preserving democracy and the battle for the soul of the nation. now he's going to be saying, i'm not the one to do that, i believe haven't harris is the one to take on that fight. of course that takes on major significance, and we're going to see that moment play out with the two of them expected, and the passing of the torch will be the sort of metaphoric vision that the democratic party, maybe a few weeks ago, couldn't have imagined when there was so much turmoil when he was still trying to figure out his decision and what he was going to do. he's going to nod to all of that, and then he's going to leave. and the first lady is also going to speak briefly and the two of them head out to southern california for vacation for the rest of the week while the party and the spotlight completely turn to vice president harris. so tonight is about trying to mark that, you know, when he ran, joe biden liked to say i

wanted to be a transition candidate. i wanted to be that bridge to the next generation. and we're going to see that actually play out in realtime tonight, chris. >> and we are watching in realtime at joint base andrews that the marine one, which is carrying the president and presumably the first lady as well, has just landed, and they will be getting on a plane and heading here, you know, pretty nice plane as it goes. they will be heading here to chicago where both of them, by the way, will be speaking a little bit later tonight. we're going to keep our eye on that door. here he comes. this looks like the president of the united states. a very big moment for him tonight. monica. i mean, this is both a farewell but also a i'm not done yet. >> exactly. and he does plan to campaign this fall, he says, for vice president harris. the first lady will do so as well. the organizers here have tried to really infuse the entire

convention with certain nods to president biden's leadership. for instance, they're going to use a phrase, history is in your hands, which is something that he said in his oval office address when he was explaining his decision to exit the 2024 race. that is on some of the signage here. it's going to be referenced to repeatedly. and what many people close to the president tell you is that now his legacy will also be viewed depending upon the success of vice president harris. so he's going to want to put his full force behind that in trying to get her elected because her success in that way will help, they believe, bring that attention to what he was able to do in office with her as a partner in terms of their some policy accomplishments. that's another theme you're going to see all week long. they're going to try to tout and going to try to talk about. and the other thing here is that democrats are really saying, there's a party unity from former presidents, from all of these different kinds of officials that you didn't

necessarily see at the republican convention, and they're going to try to make that point about a contrast in the two parties. they're going to try to ride the sort of energy and enthusiasm that we have seen at some of these big rallies with big crowds. tonight, we are told that there's likely a moment where there will be perhaps a thunderous standing ovation for president biden, that that will really be an emotional moment for him, but one that they feel will be that significant time to stress that his time leading the party is over, and now it's vice president harris's responsibility. >> and he is on his way here with a salute and a thumbs up boarding air force one. monica alba, thank you for that. a half mile from the convention center, protesters are demanding a change toward u.s. policy from israel. maggie vespa is there now. what's the scene like? >> reporter: we're going to step back a little bit so you can see

the size of the crowd. several thousand people have gathered at union park. you can see speakers at the stage to my left. they're going to start marching in the next half hour to the united center. we're going to show you where everyone is gathered as we kind of set the scene here. we're going to walk out this way. this is the coalition to march on the dnc. this is 270 largely pro-palestinian groups who have come here to basically, as you said, demand a change to the u.s.'s policy when it comes to the war in gaza and funding of israel. people have been telling us here, it doesn't make a difference to them that it's now vice president harris leading the ticket instead of president biden. they say to them it's exactly the same. what they wanted to do is gather like minded people from all over the country. they were promising up to 25,000. i got to be honest, i don't think we're anywhere close to that number. this is a massive showing. they're also gathering across the street, and then we have police lining up just behind

that crowd across the street on bikes. chicago pd, the organization handling all of this with the city telling us they have been through extensive first and fourth amendment training hoping to keep this peaceful, but of course we'll see how the day goes. chris, we'll send it back to you. >> maggie vespa, thank you. the economy, of course, will be a huge issue as democrats highlight the progress that has been made, including lower costs for families. but are voters feeling it? nbc senior business correspondent christine romans has that for us. sometimes numbers don't always match the vibes. that's exactly what democrats think is happening here. give us a fact check. >> it's so fascinating because the harris for president campaign wants you to understand that they're trying to build an opportunity economy focused on tax fairness and contrasting that with what they say is the trump, you know, the trump campaign wanting to cut corporate taxes, cut taxes for rich people, and put big tariffs on imports which would make people have to pay higher

prices. that's the contrast they're trying to make. what vice president harris has come out here is tax cuts for 100 million working families, working people. $6,000 for tax credit when a baby is born, for example, and an earned income tax credit, expanded child tax credits, cancelling some medical debt, health care and prescription drug prices is a big part of ore platform. the inflation reduction act for people on medicare, there are strict limits on how much they can pay out of pocket. she would like to have that expanded to all americans. this corporate price gouging ban, her team says there's a sheriff on the beat. when prices are rising, really dramatically for consumers, they're going to try to make sure it isn't companies that are winning while consumers are losing. and affordable housing incentives, the supply side, they want to build houses that are affordable for real people. where we stand on the economy, it's different today than it was six months ago. this campaign does have a tail wind here.

inflation is coming down, 2.9%. unemployment rate is low, though ticking up a little bit. mortgage rates which are coming down and a fed which is on the verge, chris, of cutting interest rates again, which would be good news for people trying to get in the housing market, and you have the harris for president campaign, that will really start to talk more about the things that have already happened that they say are a sign of what the biden harris success story is and how the harris team has things left to do and wants to continue to do those. how do people feel about it. you go back to the spring, this is february. this was an albatross for joe biden. now, fast forward to now, when you have harris as the candidate, you can see that gap has narrowed a little bit here. still -- donald trump has the higher marks on how people think he would handle the economy and inflation, but you can see kamala harris closing that gap, chris. >> christine romans, thank you for that. the start of the dnc is coinciding with the rollout of

new biden immigration policy that aims to keep roughly 500,000 undocumented immigrants from deportation. nbc's david noriega joins me with the details on that. this is called the parole in place program. how exactly does it work? >> reporter: chris this is the biggest move on immigration, and it could be politically very consequential too in terms of the election. before today, if you were undocumented and married to a u.s. citizen, in order to apply for legal status you had to leave the country and risk being separated from your family for ten years. what parole in place is removes the obstacle and allows you to apply from the u.s. this is consequential for people, has the potential to change truly millions of people's lives. i spoke to one cup until phoenix, in the phoenix area. i'll tell you about them. ashley is a u.s. citizen, married to rodrigo, goes by rod, who was brought to the u.s. when he was 5 years old.

she voted for trump in the last election but is now on the fence and considering a vote for the democrats in part because of this program which she believes is rectifying an unjust situation. take a listen to what she had to say. >> so you pay taxes, you have a social security number. but you can't use any of this, or you can't benefit from any of this, that makes no sense. just because i was born here. you got here when you were 5. there's no control on both ends. i could have been born in mexico too. but just because i was born here i can just do all of these things that make my life a lot easier. it would be nice to know that he can have a better job with benefits and a retirement plan. >> reporter: to use arizona an as example, 15,000 people qualify for parole in place in the state of arizona. biden won by substantially less than that, he won by 10,000 votes.

depending on how many people's lives are meaningfully changed by this program, it really could move the needle in some of these key swing states, chris. >> david noriega, thank you. coming up in 90 seconds, donald trump tries to seize the spotlight during the democrats' big week. his plans for a battleground blitz, next. [laughter and giggling] [laughter] [laughter and giggling] got real serious for a moment. —okay. —whoa! [indistinct chatters] [laughter and giggling] [laughter and giggling] she grew up in a middle class home. she was the daughter of a working mom. and she worked at mcdonald's while she got her degree. kamala harris knows what it's like to be middle class. it's why she's determined

to lower health care costs and make housing more affordable. donald trump has no plan to help the middle class, just more tax cuts for billionaires. being president is about who you fight for. and she's fighting for people like you. i'm kamala harris and i approve this message. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. thanks to skyrizi, i'm on my way with clearer skin. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms had a vaccine, or plan to. nothing on my skin means everything! ask your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. donald trump has some big plans for dnc week.

he is set to speak in pennsylvania next hour, part of a blitz of battleground states that will include michigan, north carolina and arizona in the next few days. it is a dramatic shift for the campaign amping up the former president's travel and media schedule and focusing on the issues that polls show give them an advantage. the economy, and inflation. nbc's dasha burns is covering the trump campaign on the ground in pennsylvania. so what's the message we think the trump campaign wants to send this week while the dnc is underway? >> reporter: well, counter programming is the name of the game right now, chris, and right now i'm at a factory here in north pennsylvania. there's a program starting behind me and the former president will be here shortly. this week, all of their events are really set up to try to create the backdrop to set the scene to sort of force the issue, to force the former president to talk about the issues. he's in pennsylvania today, michigan tomorrow, north

carolina on wednesday. and then he heads to the border, and then to vegas. the border, of course, highlighting another issue where he feels that he has an advantage compared to vice president harris, and the goal was a message right now, stick to the issues and when it comes to his opponent, try to tie her as much as possible to president biden, and here's vance trying to do that. take a listen! >> this is all because of the policies of kamala harris. this is a person who's promising that she's going to fix the very problems that she has been creating for 1,300 days, and now she wants the american people to give her a promotion, my friends, i think it's time for the american people to say to kamala harris, you are fired. >> reporter: and of course, chris, these are the issues that the campaign wants the former president to talk about. that's maybe a reality. we'll see. but of course what former president could always go quite another way, chris. >> dasha burns, thank you.

well, with 19 electoral votes, pennsylvania is the most lucrative prize of all the battleground states, and the recent "new york times" sienna poll shows kamala harris leading donald trump in that state by four points. that is within the margin of error. i want to bring in a member of the pennsylvania congressional delegation, democratic congressman, brendan boyle. it's good to see you here. we were trying to remember if we met each other. i think we were masked in 2020. let's talk about '24. as battles go, how tough is this fight for pennsylvania going to be? >> we're enjoying our moment in the sun. it's been a few cycles that pennsylvania has been the keystone to whether or not you're going to make it to the white house, and in 2016, pennsylvania was won by donald trump, sadly by 1/2 of 1%. it was one of the major reasons why he was elected and then in 2020, joe biden was able to flip it, winning it by just 1 point, and it was that beautiful

saturday morning that when the votes came in from philadelphia, pennsylvania was called, and indeed, he had gone over the top another 270. i think once again, it's safe to say that in 2024, pennsylvania will determine this election. i feel frankly fantastic about how things are going right now. that said, i understand the nature of my state. >> yeah, so what keeps you up at night? >> just the closeness. 2016, 1/2 percentage point, 2020, 1 percentage point. that is how close pennsylvania is just naturally. we are a great reflection of the rest of the nation. so i feel good about where we are. the fact that donald trump continues to take personal attack after personal attack at kamala harris, while she and tim walz are sticking on the issues that people care about, that has me feeling optimistic, with only, you know, 75 days to go. >> the flip side of that is that, you know, people will tell you but i felt better under

donald trump. now, revisionist history, if you actually look at the statistics, we just did a segment on that, but, you know, we have been talking about this as the biden session that people are feeling still nervous about the economy. so what do you do? the "wall street journal" did a deep dive, the trump team sees how they can court disaffected democrats in your state. blue collar workers, rural voters. what do you think? >> well, first, i think, as we were talking about earlier, we have to take a step back and recognize that covid was unbelievably traumatic for basically every american and certainly every american family. we have seen the impact of that, even after covid. not just in the u.s., the uk, france, germany, canada, you name it. it was tough for everybody and there were economic consequences, including the spike in inflation which happened in 2022. things were getting so much better now. >> you were working for the

programs that -- the biden/harris administration says worked. that they brought the economy to the strongest economy in the world. why is that message not getting through? what needs to be said? >> what i was getting to is i think that there was such an overhang from covid, especially the inflation that was as a result of covid, that it has taken people a while, really, to recover. they may have already recovered financially, and the data shows that clearly, but maybe not quite as recovered in terms of where they are financially and feeling secure. the indications, though, continue to get better. literally, week after week, so i look at it this way, the 2024 election is not about the last four years, it's about the next four years. every election is about the future. we have a democratic ticket that is talking about their concrete proposals to make the lives of ordinary americans better while donald trump is talking about god knows what today, but it certainly isn't about what he

would actually do as president to improve the lives of ordinary americans. >> congressman brendan boyle from the state of pennsylvania, which has the best seats in the house. >> good view. >> not bad at all. thanks for coming in. appreciate it. >> thank you. in the meantime, a top trump ally is warning of what could happen if the former president keeps veering off message to launch personal attacks on harris. >> president trump can win this election. his policies are good for america, and if you have a policy debate for president, he wins. donald trump, the provocateur, the showman may not win this election. >> let's bring in marc short who served in the trump white house as director of legislative affairs and chief of staff to vice president mike pence, he's also a "meet the press" contributor. always good to see you. do you agree that provocateur and showman trump could lose this election? >> absolutely.

i think the reality is at this point kamala harris has pulled ahead and clearly has the momentum behind her, and i think that president trump has missed the last 30 to 45 days to better define her. i think the border crisis, the crisis in the middle east, obviously the first three years, the concerns about inflation were all an albatross for kamala harris. but i think that donald trump as opposed to prosecuting the case on policy, is debating whether his heritage is indian-american or african-american and criticizing brian kemp in georgia, in a battleground state. he has not been prosecuting the case on the issues i think would benefit him, and if this comes down to a race on personality, it certainly is going to benefit kamala harris. >> you know, when things are not going well for him, certainly the polls are not trending in his direction, there's lots of reporting about him being unhappy about the crowd size.

he has a history of shaking up his campaign staff, which "the washington post" karen tummelty calls a quadrennial ritual of summer. in 2016, he fired his original campaign manager, corey lewandowski and gave the responsibility to paul manafort. he demoted manafort who would been trying to get trump to calm down his combativeness and made steve bannon chief executive, both who encouraged him to finish the race in his own style. corey lewandowski, we know he's back. with him lagging in the polls, with fundraising go well for kamala harris, her crowd size so big, do you think a shakeup is coming? >> i think so. i think when things aren't going well, it's his tendency to look for a scapegoat. it's important to remember, he had three different campaign managers and won in 2016. obviously throughout his tenure

as president of the united states, he had a lot of turnover inside his white house, and so i think it's just parts of who he is that when things are not going well, to look to shake it up. i would imagine that when you're bringing corey back, it's not because you think things are going great, you see the what polling trend has been, and you're looking to have a change and shakeup. >> so trump also has a tendency, as you know, to say everything that doesn't go his way is rigged. he said the 2020 election was rigged. he still says that. he was, of course, convicted of fraud in new york city, but he says that's because it was rigged. he was ordered to pay e. jean carroll, $33 million, that was rigged, and now the convention is rigged because he said joe biden was removed in a coup. i mean, let's assume that his most ardent followers still believe that, and i think i've noticed perhaps in some of his rallies they aren't as enthusiastic in some of those familiar lines as they used to

be, but how long before it totally turns off voters, the ones he really needs, if he is going to win? >> well, i think that his victimology certainly continues to appeal to a large segment of the population, but as you said, chris, i don't think it's enough to get to 50 plus one. i think it can hold the core base of your party, but i think for a lot of americans, they don't like to continue to hear the victim message. they prefer to hear something that's encouraging or hopeful about the future of our country, and i think it's certainly something that caps his support probably in the mid-40s, and i think that you're probably not going to see much of a change. he continues to relish playing the victim card and saying that the system is rigged against them. >> marc short, always good to have you on the show. thank you so much. >> thanks, chris, thank you for having me. a second chance to make history. the woman who knows all about leading a major party ticket prepares to honor kamala harris at the dnc. more live coverage from chicago

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hardest glass ceiling, but some day someone will. >> and, yet, as "the washington post" notes, harris thus far has stepped gingerly around the subject of gender in her campaign, largely avoiding making it a focal point as her supporters, running mate and husband often note they hope one day to introduce her as madame president. her lighter touch reflects the message democrats internalized. joining us now is former director of message planning meghan hays, also with us, former adviser to george w. bush mark mckinnon. hillary clinton paved the way what we're seeing now, are there lessons that hillary clinton is

applying as you should? >> when you are a woman, there are many challenges you face as you recognized in the media as well. >> never. >> secretary clinton put more cracks there, then begin in '16. the vice president is learning from the mistakes and also learning how secretary clinton ran against donald trump and taking some of the mistakes and running very different and disciplined. i think that the vice president taking less in terms of secretary clinton it's going to make shattering the glass that much more exciting. >> unlike clinton, harris doesn't want to focus on gender as much as she wants to focus on her experience, her upbringing, her prosecutorial chops, right, and in interviews with two dozen elected officials, consultants, harris ally, nearly all of whom were women, i should say. they identified harris's strategy as a bet that swing voters are prepared to vote for a woman as president, and care far more about her record and

platform, not how her run will feature in history textbooks. they compare to an obama strategy. he didn't talk about all the time, i would be the first black if the. >> i learned a lot more, and i think kamala harris did from losing campaigns than winning campaigns, and she's going to stand on the shoulders of hillary clinton tonight, and this week, when she takes the nomination, and i think it's a very smart strategy not to make gender the center point. people get that. that's obvious. what they want to know is what your credentials are, and, so you know, i think this is a goal watch night week for president biden, but also for hillary clinton too. she made this possible. >> absolutely. >> so what does she do? there are doubters out there and they may not say it out loud, but talk to any woman who has -- who's in business, who has a job, who has a life, and they will talk to you about the slights that they hear. donald trump says them out loud. her concern more is the voters who may hesitate. is there an answer for that?

>> i don't think so. i think she goes out and runs the campaign she wants to run. i think donald trump saying these things out loud help her and benefit her. people don't want to hear those things. women definitely don't want to hear it. it turns people off. it's so negative, and she continues to draw the contrast between her and the former president and lay out her economic policies like last week, and people will continue to gain enthusiasm and get to know her more. >> one of the things you write about, marc, in vanity fair is the joy. i think there's been a hesitation to, for women to be seen as joyful, that they're not serious enough, right. but there's something different about the way this feels. i don't know how long you have been in town or how many people you have been able to talk to. how do you expect it to factor to what we see on the floor of the dnc. >> i think it's a huge factor, and has been pinned up since 2016. i think that there is a -- peggy

noonen said it best. it's not so much kamala harris created a movement than the movement created her. there's a pent up desire for a woman, diversity, to expand that democratic tent, and kamala harris represents diversity, and she says vote for me because i'm qualified, not because i'm a woman. but she is a woman and it would be a first. the problem with hillary not winning was not because she's a woman. it was a hillary problem. >> one of the most popular people in america poll after poll happens to be a black woman, her name is michelle obama. she's going to be here tomorrow addressing the dnc, and of course she has that famous phrase, when they go low, we go high from the 2016 convention. it's a tone we're seeing kamala harris adopt, and let me just play a little clip of something she had to say. >> this campaign is about a recognition that frankly over the last several years there's been this kind of perversion that has taken place, i think, which is to suggest -- which is

to suggest that the measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down. when what we know is the real and true measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you lift up. [ applause ]. >> that's what we see as strength. >> that's an interesting choice of words, i think, because when i hear that, i think there's the human aspect of it, right? beating people down beating building them up. there's also an economic message, a message about your future in that. >> yeah, absolutely, i mean, her and president biden have worked hard the last three and a half years to have policies that impact the middle class. inflation is high. they are making movements and changes. she laid out an economic policy last week in north carolina. i think she's not going to take the low road. she's not going to attack him in the same way. she's not going to compare their looks, say she's better looking.

it's weird and really disgussing comments to be making. she wants to win because she's qualified, and she wants people to vote for her because she's qualified, and no other reason. >> i have asked this question, and i'll ask you again, marc. everybody is going to do what you're supposed to do at a convention, say positive things, look forward to the future. having said that, study after study after study showed that while people said they didn't like negative ads, that's what they responded to. so can they continue to feel the joy, to spread the joy? how do you balance that, with the reality of what some people are feeling? >> yes, but what they really want is a forward-leaning message, which is what kamala harris does. donald trump was one of the only candidates in history that i can remember that wanted to go backwards and he picked that lock at a time when people are ready for the future. i think they're ready for a joyful, optimistic, uplifting message, the reagan message, clinton message, bush message.

i think she has a whole new level of joy and optimism that people are bursting for. i think that's what's elevating the campaign. >> i believe in a place called hope. >> 100%. >> marc and meghan stay here. coming up in our special coverage from chicago, we have behind the scenes insight on the scramble to reorganize the convention in less than a month around a new nominee. power e*trade's easy to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley

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to kick off the week in chicago, democrats projected anti-trump messages to donald trump's downtown property, the trump international hotel. the bright projections aimed from direct attacks, calling trump and running mate j.d. vance, weird as hell to 2025. there was a campaign message about democrats associating harris and walz with joy and hope, saying they're quote, fighting for you. now, behind the scenes at the dnc, a whirlwind of preparations that built up to this moment. remember, it was just over three weeks ago that organizers thought joe biden would be the nominee. msnbc's jen psaki spoke to the executive director of the convention about the last minute preps. >> what is happening behind the scenes at a convention? what everybody's seeing on camera, speakers, giving big speeches, what's going on behind the scenes? >> all the speakers who come out

and nail their flawless speeches are back here first, and they're prepping. we have a writer's room, where they can work with their speech writer, to fine tune details. hair and makeup. >> the writers room is a bunch of speech writers who come in and help people fine tune. sometimes people are nervous. sometimes they want to change their whole speech. >> they're excited. i mean, it's like cliche is it the super bowl of something, but it's the super bowl for speech writers. >> so this stage has never existed in this form? >> correct. >> what's going to happen here? >> this is front row seat for content creators to cover our convention. we know the number one search engine for gen z is tiktok. we're going to be welcoming our traditional media friends. you can see positions for them all over the hall here, but we have our 200 plus credentialed content creators. they have the opportunity to come up here to create and broadcast their content to americans right where they are. we know so many people,

especially young people, they're not necessarily watching television, reading a physical newspaper, the trusted voices they turn to for news and information are these folks online, on tiktok and you tube and instagram. >> behind us are balloons. the balloons are going to go up into the ceiling, right? >> yep. >> and dropped down on thursday. >> so many spoilers. >> people may be wondering what are the all the balloons out there. >> we have to honor some of the time honored traditions, like the balloon drop. >> our thanks to jen for that. she's going to be part of msnbc's special coverage tonight. it all kicks off at 6:00 p.m. eastern with ari melber, joined by joy reid, coanchoring here in chicago, and providing special coverage. tune into rachel maddow as they break down day one of the dnc and what it means for the 2024

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didn't have this convention experience. meghan and i were in the empty convention center when he gave the speech. there are a plane full of delawareians flying out to be here. the other interesting thing, he has seen this movie before, in 2016, at hillary clinton's convention, they played a tribute video, an emotional moment. it's different because we know this is the end of his political career. >> and the money shot would be joe biden and kamala harris on stage together, the visual impact of the passing of the torch? >> absolutely, i think the president is extremely proud that he has endorsed the vice president, and for her to win in november, and i think that people at that moment will resonate with people as we move into the election. the president is extremely prideful in this, and so i do think that these moments tonight are going to be really impactful, not only for him, his family and all the staff that have been with him for the last 50 years. >> it's got to hurt. he expected this to be his night. >> he's going to keep his promise to be a transitional

president, to handoff the baton to another generation of democrats where all the energy is, all the future, and he's going to get the gold watch, be forever praised as great uncle joe, a great one-term president who handed it off to a new generation of democrats. >> three weeks isn't very long to adjust to what has been a seismic change in his life, in his family's life. and frankly, in the life of this nation. what do we know about how this has all been processed? >> it's amazing. i was speaking with a senior adviser this weekend, he has made a decision, and he's moved on. is it hard for other people around him, yes. the first lady, she holds the grudges for her husband sometimes. he's focused on the mission. and he feels a real importance of keeping donald trump out of the white house, and so that's really what his focus is. and by the way, running through the tape as they put it, he's going to have a lot of discussions over the next week with his team in california, removed from washington about how he wants to end his

presidency. >> this is a big night for joe biden, conventions, famously, mark, can highlight stars of the party. i remember a speech some guy named barack obama gave, funny, ended up being president of the united states. who are you going to be looking for, listening for these next several days? >> i had the worst job you can have, i hired the talent, republicans criticize democrats for their celebrity, because they can't get it. i think it's going to be a star studded week. >> do you have any insights mike? >> because of the covid convention, they had to take innovations that they said worked better than a usual convention. they're carrying them into the convention as well. >> you didn't answer my question, i noticed that. what are you watching for? >> i was watching to see how the crowd reacts to the president. it's going to be extremely impactful tonight. and it's going to be emotional

and i'm excited to be here for it in person. >> it's an opportunity for kamala harris. we know her as vice president, people don't know her story. i just found out she worked at mcdonald's. that's amazing, incredible. not only is it a metaphor for a hard working thing people can relate to. one in ten people have worked for mcdonald's. >> one in ten. is that a real statistic. >> i just learned it on the internet. >> the other interesting part is tim walz was talking about the fact that she worked at mcdonald's, one of the reasons tim walz is an interesting candidate, he reminds people of joe biden's qualities, that connection to the middle class, to the working class. maybe we'll see a moment between them as well. >> all right. biggest hope for who might show up on the stage? >> oh, there's so many people. i'm exited for the people that are going to be here not on the stage. >> no one will answer my direct

question. >> everybody is asking about beyonce. >> taylor swift and beyonce together. >> that would break the internet, i guess. >> definitely would break the internet, and we have been told it's going to go past 11:00. >> okay. >> most nights, is that the sort of guidance we're getting, eastern time, not local time. >> this is a vibes convention. they want to keep the good vibes going, even if our network bosses want to get back to the regular programming. >> i can't comment on the rest of the convention, but the vibe at the end of my show has been absolutely amazing with this music. so thanks to the programmers. we're going to let them play it out. mike memoli, mark mckinnon, and meghan hays, thank you. that's going to do it for us this hour. we're back live tomorrow 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern. for now our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" next. with "katy tur reports" next

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got to love that music. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. tonight in chicago, we're going to see something we haven't seen in 56 years. a convention, built around a nominee who wasn't chosen in a primary. but instead of frustration and

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