alone, i feel like i really have no choice. but i also don't feel like me voting for kamala right now is going to do anything for me realistically in my life. i feel like my life could change negatively if trump does get in office. i feel like it could also change negatively if kamala gets in office. >> joining us now is correspondent tra main lee. you have been following this demographic shift. what have you seen beyond what we heard there since kamala harris got the nomination? >> reporter: i'll tell you what. that spark of excitement across democratic circles hasn't been lost on black men, that have become a special swing demographic, this tug of war over black men. one thing i find interesting is while donald trump's appeal for black people has remained

stagnant, kamala harris is polling 5 points above where joe biden was polling before. so these men are coalescing around kamala harris. they said they will vote for her. >> thank you very much. that's going to do it for me today. my apologies to "deadline: white house" for stealing 25 seconds of their time. it starts right now. hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. and in chicago, they are counting down to night three of the democratic national convention there at the united center. it gets underway in two hours. tonight's speaker line up is an house riches. nancy pelosi, a slew of rising stars in the democratic water, wes moore and josh schapiro, pete buttigieg, and former

president bill clinton and vice presidential nominee tim walz. but there in chicago, the talk of the town is still about last night and the triumphant return of chicago's own first lady michelle obama, born and raised on the south side of chicago, and president obama, their back to back speeches did nothing short of bringing the house down with humor and hope and sering humanity. it was, in a word, spell binding. it was electric and arguably did something truly rare and desperately needed. it completely transcended our politics. >> america, hope is making a comeback. my girl, kamala harris, is more than ready for this moment. she is one of the most qualified people ever to seek the office of the presidency.

and she is one of the most dignified. she understands that most of us will never be afforded the grace of failing forward. we will never benefit from the affirmative action of generational wealth. if we bankrupt a business or choke in a crisis, we don't get a second, third or fourth chance. if things don't go our way, we don't have the luxury of whining or cheating others to get further ahead. we don't get to change the rules so we always win. if we see a mountain in front of us, we don't expect there to be an escalator waiting to take us

to the top. it's up to us to remember what kamala's mother told her. don't just sit around and complain. do something. so if they lie about her and they will, we've got to do something. if we see a bad poll, and we will, we got to put down that phone and do something. if we start feeling tired, if we start feeling that dread creeping back in, we got to pick ourselves up, throw water on our face and do something. >> it is one of the oldest tricks in politics from a guy who has, let's face it, gotten pretty stale. we do not need four more years of bluster and bumbling and chaos. we have seen that movie before. we all know that the sequel is usually worse. our fellow citizens deserve the

same grace we hope they'll extend to us. that's how we can build a true democratic majority. one that can get things done. and by the way, that does not just matter to the people in this country. the rest of the world is watching to see if we can actually pull this off. >> i believe that's what we yearn for. a return to an america where we work together and look out for each other. a restoration of what lincoln called on the eve of civil war, an america that taps what he called the better angels of our

nature. that is what this election is about. >> two speeches that will be talked about for as long as there are political conventions in the united states is where we start today with a full set of guests in chicago. pennsylvania state representative malcolm kinyata is here. he spoke at the convention. plus former capitol police officer harry dunn is here. and back with us for day three of dnc coverage former senator claire mccaskill is here. claire, let's start withmy's moment. this speech was not a political speech. this was sort of an american moment. you sort of stopped and said, is she going to go there.

then she went there. then you said, she's going back. she's going back. she tapped into her own grief. he started by saying i wasn't sure if i was steady enough after losing my mom to be here with you all, but it was too important. and she, i think, spoke to the sort of grief and despair of watching our democracy ransacked by donald trump and whether you're a democrat or republican, you have a right to that grief. she also spoke to the fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on meness of predicting what trump is going to do to kamala harris as a woman and a black woman. she just nailed it. what was it like in the room? >> i got to tell you. she did, frankly, the speech

should be studied. there are times i just bemoan the fact that michelle obama really doesn't like the political back and forth and is not interested in ever running because really, she is one of the very best at communicating in a way that everyone feels better when she's done. feels like a better person. i think what drove that speech last night was her mother's values. that were instilled in her and how much she misses her mother and how much she wanted to channel her mother's values. but the masterful part, the part that made me smile is how she took down donald trump without ever saying his name. the affirmative action of generational wealth, the escalator taking you to the top of the mountain, the imagery all screamed donald trump, but she

never had to say his name. that's tough stuff to do, and she did it so well. i cried all the way through barack obama. >> and we should nod to what's happening behind you. the great stevie wonder is doing rehearsal. let's listen for a second, claire. ♪♪ >> i'm sorry it to make you talk over that. >> you know how badly i want to turn around and look. we have dancers and they teased me the other day with james taylor. we're going to see the legend in stevie wonder tonight. >> it's amazing. your thoughts about the twin

speeches from michelle and president obama last night? >> it was so special because piece by piece, they dismantled donald trump's entire thesis and theory of the political case. from the day he came down that escalator, his entire message has been that america is a bad place. and it's bad because our neighbors are bad. there's something about the little old lady who shows up twice a year at the polling location to play her part in the american experience. that all these people are somehow not truly american. i have never seen a person who has benefitted so much from the american promise be so ungrateful. i grew up in a working poor family. both my parents died by the time i was 27. this whole week has been so special. my mom would have been 65 this

week. she couldn't imagine we would be doing this week what we are doing. and what i always believe, and what you have heard throughout this convention, is that our neighbors aren't our enemies. our neighbors actually are the solution to america's biggest problems and challenges. we do it together. and this ungrateful, despicable man has taken apart piece by piece by the president and first lady yesterday. >> i love that. a lego set. as a lego mom, i feel that. let me show you what folks are talking about. these almost surical attacks on donald trump. >> unfortunately, we know what comes next. we know folks are going to do everything they can to distort her truth. my husband and i sadly know a little something about this. s for years, donald trump did

everything in his power to try to make people fear us. his limited narrow view of the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard working, highly educated, successful people who happen to be black. wait. i want to know. who is going to tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those black jobs? >> one thing is for certain. donald trump is not losing sleep over that question.

here's a 78-year-old billionaire, who has not stopped whining about his problems since he rode down his golden escalator nine years ago. it's been a constant stream of gripes and grievances that's actually bye-bye getting worse now that he's afraid he's losing to kamala harris. there's the childish nicknames, the crazy conspiracy theories, this weird obsession with crowd sizes. it just goes on and on and on. >> i think we need a new term for mic drops because they

dropped them over and over again. harry dunn, your thoughts? >> it was so good, it was so refreshing. the energy in the room was just palpable. you could just feel it. but i'll tell you one thing. i wasn't surprised. anybody who knows michelle o'or listened to barack obama know when is they speak, they are going to come with it. they have been doing it their whole lives. on the edge of my seat is an understatement. but i'll tell you one thing. i was happy, i was proud, and i was thankful for these last three plus years since january 6th. it's kind of been kind of soft jabs at them like, hey, the country is at stake. i was just so proud that people were coming up with hay makers directly going after donald trump. it's what we need. we're on our last straw right now. the institutions of the senate, they failed us to hold donald trump accountable. this is our last chance to hold him accountable.

november 5th. people need to understand the gravity of what is at stake right now. there's no more time for the light hearted jabs or anything like that. we're at the verge of losing our democracy, of losing our country. and we can't -- we'll only have ourselves to blame when it comes back to november 5th if we don't elect kamala harris. that's why i've been so adamant going across the country to do whatever i can do to help get her elected. january 6th, we did our job as police officers. but on january 7th all the way to right now, today, tomorrow, the day after, i do because i love this country. i love what makes us special in america. i'm just so thankful that they are coming out gloves off saying, hey, it's time to go. >> i love that analysis. let me show you something ls they said. i immediately thought of you. i sent a note. i said we need to talk to harry dunn about this because you have been doing some of this work by

yourself talking about the mental health damage we have all suffered in that moment, but not to associate ourselves with what the police officers went through on january 6th, but just watching the unanswered attack and the failures of our institutions to hold donald trump accountable for his conduct on january 6th. let me show you what the president and first lady had to say on those issues. >> to be honest, i am realizing that until recently, i have mourned the dimming of that hope. maybe you have experienced the same feelings, that deep pit in my stomach, a palpable sense of dread about the future. >> we live in a time of such confusion and with a culture that puts a premium on things that don't last. money, fame, status, likes.

we chase the approval of strangers on our phones. we build all manner of walls and fences around ourselves and we wonder why we feel so alone. >> i think that in those two speeches, they sought to bolster some of what you sought to do really by yourself. that is to say it's okay not to feel okay and there's something we can do about it. talk about the importance of those messages, of that signal to everybody that it's safe to feel vulnerable and to feel what you're feeling. >> those two people, michelle obama and barack obama, are two of the most respected people in the democratic party, in the black community, in the world. and just for them to have that moment to allow them to be vulnerable, michelle obama, she didn't want to be here.

she talked about how she felt that loss of hope. but there is hope. i just love the fact. you notice in her speech, she kept going back to do something. don't just sit around. it's okay to not be okay. but don't just sit there with those feelings. we have the opportunity to do something. and that's why i'm still talking. i'm not suggesting that everybody go out there and run for congress, it's a lot. but you can do something. the type of voter is an educated voter. make sure your friends are educated. it's so important. i appreciate their being as a result neshl and transparent. we feel helpful. we feel like we're losing things. but november 5th, there is a chance for us to do something about it. and start to get back on the right track of feeling better. >> it's a perfect segue to the next part of the obama speeches

i'm going to play. i'm going to play the do something. i have to sneak in a break. stick around for more. we have much more coming from the democratic national convention and these masterful history-making back to back speeches by president and first lady michelle and barack obama. plus tonight will be an important national introduction to the man vice president kamala harris has selected to be her vice president. teacher, coach, minnesota governor tim walz. we'll talk to one of his former students. those stories and more when "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. a quick break. don't go anywhere. ♪♪ when you're a small business owner,

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we are all back. i'm so jealous that you're all there. let me show you some of this do something activism messaging from both the former first lady and the former president. >> no matter how good we feel tonight, tomorrow or the next day, this is going to be an uphill battle. so folks, we cannot be our own worst enemies. because the minute something goes wrong, the minute a lie takes hold, we cannot start wringing our hands. we cannot get a goldilocks complex about whether everything is just right. this election is going to be close. in some states, just a handful,

listen to me, a handful of votes in every presingts could decide the winner. so we need to vote in numbers that erase any tout. we need to overwhelm any effort to suppress us. >> the torch has been passed. now it is up to all of us to fight for the america we believe in. and make no mistake, it will be a fight. for all the incredible energy we have been able to generate over the last few weeks for the rallies and the memes, this will still be a tight race in a closely divided country. he killed a bipartisan immigration deal in part by one

of the most conservative republicans in congress. that would have helped secure our southern border because he thought trying to actually solve the problem would hurt his campaign. he doesn't -- do not boo. vote. >> do not boo, vote. representative, they know how to turn energy and enthusiasm and filled to capacity rallies and events into the more mundane activity of registering to vote, turning out to vote and taking a neighbor to with you to do the same. really important. >> that's what's been so special about the harris/walz campaign. we're seeing that on the ground in pennsylvania. as i love to say, pennsylvania is the center of the political

universe. the rallies that we have had from the rally where governor walz was introduced in my legislative district. you saw people leaving there ready to work. and what vice president harris does so well, and i think the joy that we're feeling is that people know there's work to do. people, we are reminded of that. but they also recognize that it's work you don't have to do alone. when you're excited about what the future looks like, you're ready to grab four people and knock on doors together, go out and engage together. and it is our turn to do just that. we sit here in this room, i sit here in this convention hall because conventions before black leaders, young people, so many folk who is didn't feel like they were included got together and did something about it. now all that progress is easy to take it for granted. this is the most american thing you can do. preserve and expand this democracy by getting off your

hands, reognizing it's our time and moment and getting out there and doing something about it. and there was something she said to me as well. >> i love that. i love everyone thinking of the lessons of their mothers and making it so personal. i feel like we talk a lot about political permission structures. this is a permission structure to feel personal about it again, to make our politics deeply personal. >> i think that's absolutely right. when you get involved for the first time, i always say, candidates, it's important to have good candidates. we have incredible nominees. but ultimately, every election is about you. when i'm out campaigning, close your eyes. think about the person you love best in the world. think about what they deserve. then work in relgsz to what you think they deserve. get up every single day and do what it takes to make sure that people you deserve have a

government that works for them. it's the reason everybody raises their hand if they are lucky enough to be elected. bauds we know the people in our lyes who are struggling, who are not benefitting from the greatness of this country. we know they deserve to. we're going to make that promise of america accessible for every single person. if you the feel the energy in this room, you know democrats are ready to do it. >> this is the last convention i'm going to skip because i feel it through all of your testimony. claire mccaskill, i thought one of the most important speeches was the address from doug, as well as the introduction from his son cole. a blended family, and i wept at them sort of pulling back the curtain on they called it a three-headed parenting machine. and all of these glimpses into vice president harris as a step mom and as a wife.

let moe show you some of doug's really important remarks. >> here's the thing about joyful warriors. they are still warriors. kamala is as tough as it comes. just ask the criminals, the global gangsters and the witnesses before the senate judiciary committee. she never runs from a fight. she knows the best way to deal with a coward is to take him head on. because we all know cowards are weak and kamala harris can smell weakness. she doesn't tolerate any bs. you have all seen that look. you know that look i'm talking about. that look is not just a meme. it reflects her true belief in honest and direct leadership. it's also why she will not be distracted by nonsense. kamala knows that in order to win, we cannot lose focus. >> i think if you are just

tuning into our politics, you may not know who that was. but you stop and you watch and you see it's her husband. and he's married to her. he's telling us something deeply personal about her. i thought it was quieter than the soaring and sering speeches from the obamas, but just as important as voters start to tune into the general election in november. >> first of all, women of america fell in love with doug last night. and keep in mind that movie that introduced him was produced and put together by his ex-wife. and it is the story of a blended family. i'm in a blended family. you're in a blended family. a lot of america is in blended families. and he went there, not only did he go there about the

awkwardness of their dating and the ferocity of their love for each other, and him making fun of himself in a way that was so endearing, but you felt the love he had for this woman the and for his family. and that was more important than anything that came off the podium last night was the personalized nature of doug elm hof's saying to america, this woman is amazing. i love her and you will too. it maybe the most effective speech in terms of moving voters. we know kamala. we know who she is. but america is not that familiar with her. so that blended family and him being foot forward on his faith and his love for his jewish upbringing, all of that, you talk about combatting all the

nonsense of somehow kamala being that, that disappeared last night. as doug emhoff told his family's story and told about his love for this extraordinary woman, i'm such a fan of how he put that speech together. i think it probably captured more americans than maybe even the o'ment bams. >> i thought it was so important too. i'm sorry every time we go to you, you have to speak over whatever fantastic rehearsal is going on. >> listen, this hall, i just got to tell you. this hall is rocking. i have been in the hall for a lot of roll call votes. it's the first time i had a blast. all those roll call votes suck. and last night, i'm like, oh, man, this is fun. and so the whole night was just really well done. >> here it is. we have a little bit of that. it was amazing to watch.

i know robert mueller loves this. i thought the same thing. how fun is this going to be. it was an unbelievable live television event. it was perfectly produced, perfectly executed and, again, if you're just tuning into the general election at home and you watch this, i think a lot of people were searching for the play list on spotify. >> you guys are all the best. thank you so much for having this conversation with us. the three most perfect people to speak to. thank you for spending time with us. it's great to hear your insights. stick around. coming up for us, democratic vice presidential nominee tim walz will take the big stage tonight. we'll talk to someone who knew him well before his meet york rise in american politics. back when he was a coach and high school teacher. don't go anywhere. chool teacher. don't go anywhere. (children speaking)

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some political consultant. they come from his closet, and they have been through some stuff. they have been through some stuff. >> two weeks ago, tim walz was a highly accomplished and respected governor, but one with a very modest profile. tonight, he's the headliner at the democratic national includes former president bill clinton, former speaker nancy pelosi. walz will further endear himself as he delivers this evening's keynote address in front of tens of thousands of people in chicago, tens of millions of people across the country and around the world. the minnesota governor will officially accept the nomination for vice president. it's precisely the sort of eruption in popularity that something doesn't happen without the person being the right

candidate. walz seems to fit the bill. genuine, authentic, a natural. don't take our word for it. take a listen to the people who know him best. joining us now is one of his former students. noah, i was thinking that every teacher in the world, if they thought that some day their students would be the ones providing witness testimony to how they change their lives, it's just such an interesting dynamic. you know him best. you know the thing that he gave himself to, teaching and coaching. tell us what he was like. >> so i had mr. walz back in 2005 as a sophomore at mankato west. just high energy, what you see on the campaign trail is how he is as a teacher. the excitement, the joy, he

brings that to a 16-year-old is hard to do. i don't think you can fake that as there's been more interest in students sharing our stories and certainly cog any sabt that i don't have a big story about that. he's deeply impacted in the classroom. >> i think if you didn't already know it as a parent when covid hit and our kids were home with us instead of in school with their beloved and brilliant and gifted teachers, i think everyone really understands how special skill set a teacher has. is it surprising to you that it's such a natural transition to -- i know he was in congress before and governor before. there were steps along the way, but were there any signs in the classroom that he would be really good in this line of work as well?

>> 19 years ago, i don't think i would have -- i would have been surprised if he was sitting here giving an interview about my high school teacher running for vice president. it's not surprising in a way that he's able to connect with everyday folks. public school classroom in rural southern minnesota, middle of america, is a great cross section of what average people are. and mr. walz has proven to connect with us and those folks every single day in a way that's authentic and genuine. it's not surprising now, but certainly 19 years ago, i would tell you that i don't believe i would be here right now. >> there's something that students don't suffer fools. and there's a lot of focus on what's wrong sort of with screens and access to the internet. the other side might be just this bs detector. i see it in my own son. they see bologna and falseness.

it seems like that's a skill set that's serving him very well on the campaign trail as well as the quickness. i want you to do this assignment. a student will say, why. the ability to turn around and answer something on his feet seems, to me, to be something he learned fielding important, but maybe pointed inquiries from students. what was his dynamic like as a teacher with his students? >> he certainly asked more questions of students than i normally have as teachers. it wasn't for him just sitting at the front by the white board saying this is what the lesson today is. there was a lot of walking around the room. we didn't have air-conditioning back in 2005, so it could get pretty hot. he would be fully invested and hand gestures and we're excited to ask questions.

and would actually draw out kind of a 360-degree experience of learning. getting to be active participants in the school day. >> just listening to you talk, i'm thinking about sort of my time in politics and what you're doing is trying to motivate people to do something that's hard. it's a privilege when you can get people to go and take time before work or after work. i used to go with my mom to vote. i wonder if you can just speak to how he motivated his students to do things that maybe it was a book he didn't want to read, but he seems able to tell you why he's asking you to do something. and i wonder if that was

something you witnessed in the classroom. >> he was incredibly motivating. and i think that's one of the skills that he brings to the national spotlight right now. we do this exercise that stuck with me. we have to bring in a news story once a week for extra credit. it couldn't be something that repeated from another classmate. you have to discuss it in 30 to 60 seconds. he was a huge one on homework. this was something that you couldn't just take home and do this. you have to bring it in the classroom, have a conversation in front of your peers. so that was expand the world from beyonden mankato. the world is a large place. he brought that to southern minnesota. he's incredibly well traveled. this is 2005, 2006 before google or smart phones were huge for us. we had a real life interactive

encyclopedia back at mankato. that just really motivated a lot of students to learn and be interested in their academics. >> that's great to get to talk to you. thank you for spending time with us. >> thank you. we'll have much more from the democratic national convention after a very short break. don't go anywhere. fter a very s break. don't go anywhere. harlem has everything. but i couldn't find pilates anywhere. so i started my own studio. and with the right help, i can make this place i love even better. earn up to 5% cash back on business essentials with the chase ink business cash card from chase for business. taking care of your family is hard work, especially when schedules change. join the 29 million people who have turned to care and find support in your area for kids, seniors, pets, and homes. all from background-checked caregivers, rated and reviewed by people like you. that's hours and hours of goofing around. hundreds of 'lovely afternoons'.

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i don't care how you identify politically, whether you're democrat or republican, independent or none of the above, this is our time to stand up for what we know in our hearts is right. >> when i was press secretary, i got secured for never holding a white house briefing. i never wanted to stand at that podium and lie. now here i am behind a podium advocating for a democrat. that's because i love my country more than my party. >> i have an urgent message for the majority of americans who, like me, are in the political middle. john mccain's republican party is gone, and we don't owe a damn thing that's left behind.

>> we're back with harry and claire. you had michelle obama. you had stephanie grisham, a former trump adviser, and you had a mccain republican. the pro democracy coalition and the pro democracy movement is for everyone. and the democratic party should get credit for welcoming everybody under that tent. just talk about how important it is and how your experience on january 6th is so central to this movement that seems to be , in part, responding to that day. >> yeah, after january 6th, it was really disheartening to see a lot of the members of congress that i got to know over the 15 years of my career at the capitol police. republicans, democratings, but mostly republicans turned their backs on the capitol police on what happened that day. even this day, are still denying what we went through and saying

it wasn't bad. the problem about that is the ones that did speak up, we can name them individually because there's so few. the adam kinzingers, liz cheneys, there's so few republicans who have decided to put country above party. and yes, we need to be welcoming about anybody that's about saving the country, that's about protecting democracy, that's about speaking out against donald trump. they need a home. they need to be welcome. and let's be real, the democratic party is about working for everybody and a lot of the republican values right now, like you just saw in the previous clip, the mccain republican party is gone. that doesn't exist anymore. now we need to get back to people where we're able to reasonaby disagree with respectability. >> claire, i was sitting next to lester holt and chuck todd when trump gave his speech in 2016. i remember him saying the

republican party died in this room. it's dead. you see the harris/walz campaign has elevated people. and the speech tonight, this is the pro democracy movement. it represents current democrats, former republicans, and anyone who cares about democracy. >> i mean, the split screen, i keep talking about it, but sometimes cob vengss are meaningless, but sometimes they tell you more than people might realize at first glance. the republican convention, the overriding message, the people that you remember from that convention are white men, mostly him coming out to a song "it's a man's world" and all that nonsense. this convention not only does it look like america in the hall, they are going out of their way to say we agree on more than we disagree. when barack obama talks about the bonds of affection, he is

talking about the things that bring people together in schoolyards and church basements and neighborhood meetings all over this country. and they are really, really making a real effort to reach out to every corner of this country to say, please come help us. you love america like we do. i think they are doing a masterful job. >> only former president obama could go from quoting lincoln bonds of affection to making a size joke and hand gesture. what an hour. thank you for being here to talk to us about it. another break for us. we'll be right back. another break for us we'll be right back. not every decision you make will be as good as getting a volkswagen at the savvy vw summer sales event. 2024 volkswagen models cost less to maintain than honda. get 1.9% apr financing or a $2500 customer bonus

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accepted and valued. because no one has a monopoly on what it means to be an american. no one. >> america's ready for a new chapter. america's ready for a better story. we are ready for a president kamala harris. >> hi again, everybody. it's 4:00 in chicago, where all the action is today. a city still basking in the afterglow of that. last night's soaring and inspiring speeches from former president and former first lady michelle o'barack obama, both delivering powerful messages to the democratic party and all of the american people. there's only one 2024

presidential candidate, who has committed to putting all of the people first, former president obama drawing a clear contrast between vice president harris and the republican nominee. >> kamala harris won't be focused on her problems. she'll be focussed on yours. as president, she won't just cater to her own supporters and punish those who refuse to kiss the ring or bend the knee. she'll work on behalf of every american. that's who kamala is. >> someone who knows that better than anyone, her own husband, also delivered a touching testimonial and tribute last night sharing his personal story and his love story with harris. >> we talked for an hour, and we laughed. you know that laugh. i love that laugh.

and maybe that counted as our first date. or maybe it was that saturday night when i picked her up and told her, buckle up, i'm a really bad driver. because you can't hide anything from kamala harris. you might as well own it. as i got to know herbert, just fell in love fast, i learned what drives kamala. it's what you have seen over the past four years and especially these past four weeks. she finds joy in pursuing justice. she stands up to bullies, just like my parents taught me to. and she likes to see people do well. but hates when they are treated unfairly. she believes this work requires a basic curiosity and just how people are doing. her empathy is her strength.

>> although vice president harris was in milwaukee last night hosting a mega rally of her own, she made sure to catch her husband's speech posting this sweet moment on social media and writing, love you, dougie, watching him give that speech. just as we learned more about doug, tonight we'll learn more about the other important man in kamala harris' life, governor tim walz. the former high school teacher, former football coach, former national guardsman who has never used a teleprompter before. he will be tonight's keynote speaker. get ready for night three of the democratic national convention as the democratic party continues to rally support and enthusiasm. as michelle said, hope ahead of the election, which is now just 76 days away. it's where we start the hour with my friend and colleague

jacob soboroff. so jacob, i wonder if it felt in the room like it felt watching. like the obamas sort of cracked open what was excitement and enthusiasm and added all this depth of feeling to what the country has been through, and especially the democratic party over the last eight years. >> reporter: it felt electric. it was a feeling unlike of the second day of this one, i have been through four days of the other convention. through all the days so far, it felt unique. it felt special to the people here. that's what they told me. everyone was on their feet. everyone was locked in. and just that back to back one-two punch of michelle obama and president obama, and i think a lot of people, myself included, weren't there to experience the spirit of the 2008 campaign. what it was like to be in denver when president obama accepted

the nomination in that football stadium all those years ago. i guess it felt like i think for a lot of us, a little bit of a taste of that, but 20 years later. when you talk to people about how they were feeling last night, there were smiles on everyone's faces because it felt like to use the analogy, the turning of the page, a new chapter. and that extended to elected officials. i'm in the california delegation. if i could, i'm going to bring in congressman garcia. what's going on? robert was on the stage from long beach. former mayor of long beach. that's how first got to know you. what did it feel like to be here? i don't think you were at the convention when arack obama accepted the nomination. did it feel to you a little bit of a taste of what that might have been like? >> it was electric. obviously, seeing barack obama, seeing michelle obama just make the case not for kamala harris,

but then make the case against donald trump, it just gave me all those feelings that people talked about in that audience with barack obama. i was happy to be there. last night was amazing. >> you said a little bit of a taste. we got a taste of what it might be like to know and to love from doug, kamala harris. you spoke about your relationship with vice president harris. you talked about how when your parents died during covid, she called you. she was one of the first people to call you and spoke to you directly. what was that like? what's your relationship? how do you know her on a personal level? >> i have known her for years. i supported her when she ran for a.g. she supported me for mayor. we have just supported each other. in 2019 i was one of the cochairs of the presidential campaign. strong political allies. she's a good person, a great person. when my parents had covid, she not only called me during that time when they were in the hospital, she called me after both passed away.

she talked about her mom when shes lost her mom. talked to me about her faith and loss. it was really comforting in that moment. she's always done that. she's the person that calls you on your birthday. she calls to see how you're doing. she has great personal relationships that go a long way back. i'm so dplad that tomorrow night people are going to get to know the kamala harris that so many of us know and love. we're fired up. >> reporter: congressman, it's so good to see you. thank you. that's another example. that was a little bit of a taste of what we got last night. it felt like seeing for a lot of people in this audience, seeing old friends in michelle obama and barack obama. and then it was this experience of hearing from doug emhoff about what it's like to live in a home, to love kamala harris, what she's like on a personal level. and congressman garcia is one of those people that knows her. that's why i'm hanging out in the california deegation.

there's a lot of people that have known her for a long time. it's a special time for people down here. >> we talked yesterday about the family separation policy and president obama and michelle obama didn't shy away from talking about being on the receiving end of trump's cruelty. ichelle obama said we know what he's going to do. he's going to make you fear people like me because we're successful, hard working people who happen to be black. it felt like a warning to her party about what's about to happen. i peeked over in the break and looked at ha they were saying on fox news. and jesse waters, what's old is new. he's still talking about birtherism. he's still trotting out this racist trope with his cohosts nodding like it's a joke. and a legitimate news story to be talking about. what do you think the democratic party has learned from watching the hard right, the trump right,

watch racist attacks ahead of this intense general election season. >> reporter: former first lady summed it up. she said we have to do something. that was sort of the vibe and the energy here on the floor. there's no patience for that any longer. tolerance was preached nonstop. even from former president obama talking about, look, it's okay. we should be toerant of our neighbors and our friends, even when they may say something we don't agree with or makes us uncomfortable. it's okay to give people a second chance, whether they are in our families or outside. but by the same token, the message here last night is there's no time to waste. it's time to go at it. come over here for a second. she's here like this close to me and listening to every word i'm saying. what did you take away? from the do something message from michelle obama. what did it mean to you?

>> make phone calls and knock on doors. talk to voters. >> how about for you? >> i run phone banks. so how is this election going to be any different? how is the messaging from this campaign changing your approach to how you might have done things in the past? >> there's more hope and joy. this is rem any sent of 2008 o'ment ball. and i think we're in the same group. we run a big group in san francisco bay area of volunteers. flooding in people are so willing to work. for the last year and a half,we had a hard time recruiting people. this is a joy and an energy. >> our e-mails are clogged right now with former volunteers coming forward saying i want a phone bank. i phone banked before. i'm back. i want to do it. the energy is unbelievable. >> the energy is big right now. >> reporter: people want to be a part of this. thank you very much. let's talk to more people over here. there's so much of it over here.

everybody is taing a selfie. can we get in on your selfie. we're live. >> hi. >> washington state is in the house. >> everybody here, when they say do something, turn around so she can see it. when michelle obama said do something, it means go out there and vote, knock on doors, reach out to people to vote. write letters to swing state voters to vote. the magic is very small. we need to win in november. it means to go out and fight and win. >> right on. >> reporter: i can't emphasize it enough. it feels like we all know what the stakes are. everybody knows what the stakes are. both sides of the aisle everybody thinks the stakes are high. it doesn't feel like an apathetic moment, whereas who know what is this convention would have been like if this was joe biden's convention. i can't tell the you. it would have been a slightest

universe. back in the day. but i can tell you what it feels like now. it's buzzing. >> are they excited about tim walz tonight? ask them. what do they want to hear from tim walz? >> governor tim walz from the great state of minnesota is going to be on the stage. what do you want to hear from tim walz? >> we just want a winning message and to feel his love and joy and get everybody motivated. we're going to take it to the streets as soon as the convention is over. >> reporter: the minnesota tell gags. i'm taking this as an invitation to go over there. come this way. listen, we know amy klobuchar will be there. i believe introducing him tonight. she knows him just as well as anybody. the thing about -- i think you're looking at us from up there. she knows people in minnesota

here, it's one of the most fired up dell gragss of anybody i met. come on through. and i have said this before, but in addition to amy klobuchar, i know a little something about minnesota myself. the great patti soboroff is from minnesota. i can tell you firsthand how excited people are from this state for governor walz. can i interrupt you? i was attracted to come over here. the flannel shirt. everybody is talking about tim walz. you have a flannel shirt over there too. what do you want to hear from your governor tonight? >> we just want to hear more of what he's been talking about. tim walz is an outstanding man full of integrity. he's compassionate. he cares about people. i think he's ready to move this country forward along with the vice president, he will be a great support for her. and i think just more of the same work he's done to minnesota. he's a gret supporter of labor, a great supporter of families. all the protections that have been put in place for working people. and just lifting people up. that's what tim walz does.

>> my name is bernie bernam. >> i consider myself half minnesotan. people around the country fel this connection. it's minnesota nice. what is it about minnesota? >> it's just a great place to live. that's all. >> except the state bird is the mosquito sometimes, and that's always difficult in the summertime. >> they are uncontrollable. >> reporter: minnesota delegation, they are still filling in. this is the spot to watch. it's going to be fun up here. >> i love you. i feel like i helped you get your steps in today. we have that going for us too. >> reporter: i'm sweating. i'm getting my steps in. >> jacob soboroff, you're the best. thank you for starting us off. let's bring in one of the tennessee three, state representative justin jones ahead of his speech tomorrow night. we got to know you as you stood on the front line of democracy. talk about being at this convention that's proudly showcasing the pro democracy

coalition in america. >> it's so great to be with you. the energy here is electric. people are fired up. they are energized. the amount of young people i have seen here, i was not supposed to be at this cob vengs, but decided last minute to attend because we know we are at a cross roads in our nation's history. or going toward the authoritarian of a criminal in donald trump. so they like to say we're the party of woke. we're woken up to their agenda to bring us to history. and i'm just so excited to see the multiracial coalition, mult faith coalition that's come together and a message of hope and moving this nation forward and making america what it ought to be. >> michelle obama had her speech that will be watched and studied for deades. one of her great lines was, who is going to tell donald trump that the job he's looking for maybe one of those black jobs.

what do you make of this ticket and this convention's ability to really reduce dl donald trump's meanness and sees this mantle of patriotism and hope? >> i think we saw a new michelle obama. we resist this with love, with a justice, but we resist these extremist attacks on our democracy. so i was kicked out of my black job last year. but i was restored a couple days later after the vice president came into the seat. and what we're seeing is that i come from a state where they are banning books about black history, but we are making black history every day. so we're making black history every single day. that's the greatest way to defeat trump is by rejecting their fear mongering and we can be a better america.

and not lean into the past of selling gags segregation. >> what does it mean to you that the convention has made such an effort to show the broad base of support, conservative judge michael ludig is there. conservative mayor of mesa, arizona, spoke. this is something that everyone wants to be a part of, including all these conservative ex-republicans. how does that make you feel? >> it is beautiful. i think it's a difference between -- they are not like us. they want to beat people down. our party is saying to even those that kicked us out. we want to let them know we are fighting for them and their children.

we'll fight to protect our clean water and air. when we fight to make a livable planet, we fight to cancel and make it more affordable. that's the message we send to republicans and those who might say we are a party about building a bigger circle to let them know we are fighting for them. it's about building a community of what america can be. we have envisioned this nation to be. i'm black and asian. i come from a fusion family that's multiracial. to me, that's the beauty of this nation. i'm the first black lawmaker to represent my district. so that's what we're seeing. i hope people embrace that vision and don't fall the into donald trump tricks. it's a beautiful thing we should celebrate and be proud of because we can be the greatest of democracy in the history of this world. >> we love getting to talk to you. state representative justin jones, thank you for making some

time for us. thank you. >> thank you. we have so much more to get to. and the third day of the democratic national convention. ahead for us, former congressman beto o'rourke will be our guest to talk about tim walz. taking no chances with the election results. they have retained election attorneys. he will be with us to tell us what he's looking out for. later, we'll check in with joy reid inside the convention hall. "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. ues after a q. n't go anywhere.

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consider this to be your official ask, michelle obama is asking you, no, i'm telling y'all to do something. because -- >> the room erupted there in a chant of "do something." perfect segue to our next guest. joining us is former congressman from texas beto o'rourke, who is always doing something. he's in texas, hundreds of miles from the convention, putting in the work every day on voter outreach to help get kamala harris and his friend tim walz elected in november. i feel like every time we tried to book you on the show, you

have been in your car going somewhere to do something, to talk to voters, to reach out to voters, to respond to a crisis. voters are having. i wonder what you make of this attempt to use this convention as a mobilization week. how vital is that to take the enthusiasm and get people to do something? >> i'm so glad you played that clip from the former first lady. that has to be the message. i think in this age where we're so divided from one another, so polarized politically as a country, so isolated in part because of the devices that consume all our attention and energy, to be asked not to do something because it's easy or convenient, but to paraphrase jfk, to be asked to do something because it is hard, like going out in the 108 degree texas heat on the university of north texas campus with our volunteers and register voters and talk to young people about the election,

listen object their concerns and connect them with the candidates who are going to fight for them effectively in the white house. kamala harris and tim walz, that's what it takes. and i have seen more convention speeches that i can probably count. that ranks among the best of all time. because it was the call to action that we need right now. and it meets the urgency of this moment with the path that is going to get us there. registering people to vote, getting the vote out, talking to our friends, family members, and neighbors. that's what it's going to take. so i love the focus on action because it is the antidote to despair and it is the key to victory. >> i love that you said that. despair, i think, captures a lot of the stories that i have covered here. and listening to michelle obama talk about how the despair and the dread and the pit in the stomach, i mean, to be honest, that's how you feel sometimes when you sit down and get ready

to cover the latest norm by trump or insult hurdle that the chairman or threat to our democracy or supreme court ruling that further emboldens him and offers absolute immunity. what do you make of this convention as annen antidote to despair, but a reminder if you feel like the justice system failed, go vote. if you feel like the two impeachments of trump failed, go vote. to do something meaningful in november. >> absolutely, put us into the game. remind us of the agency that each of us possesses in this democracy. it's both a freedom, it's an opportunity, but it's also somewhat of a burden. a burden that you don't have in saudi arabia or russia or iran or north korea or so much of the rest of the world right now, but a burden that we happily shoulder today because it gives us a chance to decide our own

destiny. and only because of those who proceeded us. going back to the revolution at lexington and concorde, 1865, to 1965 when john lewis leads that march to secure the right to vote for everyone in this country. regardless of your race, your religion, your ethnicity, your country of national origin, creating the first true multinational democracy in american history. a real democracy of the people. those who proceeded us with their blood, sweat and tears and in many cases their lives, gave us an extraordinary inheritance. what we do with it whether we squander it, that's going to define this generation for eternity. certainly in the eyes of our kids and grand kids. no pressure, but we can't afford to mess this one up.

and i love that instead of meeting that with fear or anxiety, we meet it with this bold, cool, confidence that michelle obama brought to the convention last night. and then, president obama just one of the greatests orders of my lifetime to delivered the speech we needed to hear last night. i was on a high by the end of the second night of the convention, and really excited about what we're going to hear tonight. >> one more thing about the obamas and then i want to ask you about tim walz. he addressed some of what you're talking about. you mentioned people staring of the their desprieps he said we're obsessed to fleeting things. fame, money, likes. and then he tied it to loneliness, which i think only accelerated after covid, but has been skillfully exploited by donald trump. that lentliness, that grievance, and i thought it was interesting that his own former press secretary talked about his hatred for his own supporters,

who she said he refers to as basement dwellers. what did you make of the obamas speaking to the isolation as one of the tools of the want to be autocrats? >> it's definitely a crisis of this time. and i'm sure i'm speaking for millions of parents out there, amy and i are raising a 17 and 16 and 13-year-old. it's a daily, if not hourly challenge to make sure we're connected eye to eye, look account at one another when we talk to each other, having these bonds that i probably took for granted growing up in a pre-digital age, as did you, but it's a really serious concern right now. when i'm on these college campuses, i was at texas a&m today and houston community college just before joining you. one of the first questions i get from young people that were signing up to register to vote, where do i find the facts.

it's a funny question because it was the el paso times, it was the nightly newscast, it was pbs, whatever my folks were watching. for young people today, they don't have newspaper subscriptions. they are not watching broadcast tv or you either, they are consuming this stuff off tiktok and instagram and other social media platforms. it can be forgiven for being overwhelmed and not knowing what's real. showing up in person, connecting with people, having conversations about the future of this country, i know it's not easy. i know it's not digital or convenient, but i think that's where the action is. that's where we bring people back together again and defeat this isolationism, which truly is a breeding ground for extreme theism for those who get led down the wrong path. this convention literally is the embodiment of people coming together. i think that's why you see so many smiles on so many faces, so much joy in the room. we have to go out there into our home communities and bring that message and that joy and those

conversations to people where they are. >> i feel you times a million on the daily, hourly struggles to keep our kids connected to us and not their screens. enter tim walz. i spoke to one of his students about the impact he had on the classroom. it was just what you're talking about. he said one of the homework assignments was not to go home alone and read a book for hours and hours, but to come back to the classroom with an article about the world in which they live. he said it expanded the world of their small town. tell me what you think we'll hear tonight from your friend governor tim walz. >> i think the more personal, the closer it is to his life and experiences, the more we hear him in his own words, i think the deeper the connection that this guy is going to make. one of the reasons i consider him a good friend and probably so many colleagues with whom i

served along with tim walz consider him a friend is he wasn't one of these guys consumed by his device. he wasn't skipping into the committee hearing to give a speech and bouncing out to get on cable tv or post something on social media. he's stay the full meeting. he's a real guy having real conversations about real things going on in his life. and i just think there's an incredible exceptionalism to his kind of service. it's really a wonderful story about america that a guy who just keeps his head down, does the work, gets things done for those he's supposed to serve like veterans, for whom he delivered on the va committee is now elevated to this position of prominence as a vice presidential nominee. i would love to hear more about his story, his ethic, how he got here, and also those things that kind of defy the typical political course. social studies teacher, lunchroom monitor, football coach, 24 years in the army national guard, a loving husband

and a wonderful dad, who you cannot get to stop talking about his kids because he's so proud of them. i just love that walz is on the ticket. i think he's such a big boost to our chances to win the white house in november. >> beto o'rourke, next time you come back we're going to talk about texas. everything is happening. thank you so much for joining us today. it's great to see you. >> thank you. when we come back, how the campaign is gearing up for the legal fights to come. if and when the republicans try their old tricks and try to overturn the results of the election. turn the results of th election one thing we know is true: no matter race, gender, ethnicity... the need to screen when due...

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as you all know, we're witnessing across our nation a full-on attack on hard-fought, hard-won fundamental freedoms and rights. across our nation like the freedom to vote, we must remember as the generations of americans before us who led the fight for freedom, the baton is now in our hands. we carry the baton. we carry the baton. >> the highest form of patriotism, to fight for the ideals of our country, and that's what we are here.

>> that was vice president kamala harris last night on the critical battle to protect votering rights in the ongoing danger that donald trump poses to our democracy and our faith and our election systems. today the atlantic is reporting that donald trump's hand picked rnc chair, including his daughter-in-laws, have launched legal challenges intended to sew doubt in the outcome of the election, even if the lawsuits fail. they write this, quote, only months before november's elections, the republican national committee has launched a new legal attack on the rules that govern federal elections supported by 24 states, the rnc is seeking on an emergency basis the supreme court ruling that the united states congress lacks the constitutional authority to regulate presidential elections, even if the suit fails, it risks achieving some success in sew ing doubt about the integrity of

elections. highlighting glam clinton campaigns of illegal voting by immigrants and laying a foundation for post alexandria ocasio-cortezs of fraud and related legal challenges. joining us now is voting rights attorney mark alias is back. his firm is helping our viewers sleep easier at night. also joining us editor at large for the 19th, msnbc political analyst erin haynes. mark, it strikes me in reading that atlantic headline that in contrast to all of the sort of embrace of hope and joy the democratic convention, the republicans and the trump campaign are playing from the bottom of the deck. i wonder once again about our fall jury to fathom this as one of the major party's nominees and the damage they are willing to do to the sanctity and the

integrity of our elections. do we have a plan for this? >> look, i think that the article in the atlantic got it exactly right. that lawsuit, by the way, that the republicans have gone to the u.s. supreme court to try to reverse is a case actually by something i brought on behalf of a nonprofit organization as well as other groups. we will see whether the supreme court will grant this relief, or whether they won't. so far, republicans are losing in court. just yesterday they lost a big case in new york. my law firm defeated them there on behalf of the democratic party. today, earlier today they lost a case in the 7th circuit. so far the courts are holding. there's no question that donald trump's fundamental strategy, which is to make it harder for you to vote and easier for republicans to cheat after the election, that plan has been unchanged. and in some sense, he's become

more desperate as he's falling behind in the polls. as he realizes that he's likely to lose this fall. but no one should forget that when we last saw the election subversion machine of donald trump, his supporters were storming the capitol in a violent insurrection. so when he says now i don't care about votes, he said this earlier today, don't need votes. we need election integrity, we know what that means. i can promise folks those who have been battle the tested against ens him and his crocron before, we'll be ready. >> when michelle obama made the point that we need to win by margins that erase any doubt, i thought, yes, that's right and that's true, and it's fundamentally unfair. democrats have to win by such margins to account for the shenanigans and the calls to people like brad raffensperger that we know trump will make,

see to it to find the 11,780 votes, the exactly the amount by which he lost. what do you make of the dynamic shaping up and how publicly he's doing the things that he sought to mostly do in private last time. >> so i wrote a piece for democracy called the asim think of election denialism. this was a few months ago. the reason i wrote that is because of what you're talking about. i thought michelle obama's speech was one of the best convention speeches in recent american history. right up there with barack obama's speech in 2004, which i was actually at the boston convention to witness firsthand. i thought that she was exactly right in general. i always hesitate to embrace this idea that democrats, as you say, have to play by a different set of rules. 11,000 votes in georgia in 2020,

that's a lot of votes. that was not -- that was a close election, but it wasn't that close. donald trump didn't lose just by georgia. he lost by georgia michigan and pennsylvania and nevada and arizona. all states in which he sicked his lawyers and his cronies to try to overturn the will of the voters. and we cannot buy into the idea that somehow for kamala harris' to be legitimate, she has to win 50 more electoral votes or more than 100,000 votes. because that's what donald trump is counting on is casting doubt on elections, even when they are decided by 50,000 or 100,000 votes. that's not fair. and i fundamentally reject the idea that republicans get graded on a democracy curve. >> erin haynes, your thoughts as the democratic convention is now officially at its halfway point.

>> yes, i arrived here in chicago on sunday, which was the 104th anniversary of the amendment in which our newsroom is named. we know when the 19th amendment was passed, not everybody, not all women had access to the franchise. there were latinas, asian women who weren't even reognized as citizens in 1920 when that amendment was passed. there were the black women who fought shoulder to shoulder with those who did not get their access to the ballot. i'm thinking about a woman in atlantic city testified to the terrors of voter suppression in jim crow mississippi. she did that at a democratic national convention talking about the reality that this is never necessaily been a fair process for women, for people of color, for other marginalized folks, and yet those folks still what they had to do and fought for access to the franchise even as they were working to make it

more free and fair for everybody. so when you hear former first lady michelle obama talking about this being the responsibility of citizens to make sure they exercise their right to vote and exercise it in such a number that it is unimpeachable, no matter what donald trump tries to do, it is what we do as americans in exercising our right to vote. it's the big truth of the reality that elections county to be free and fair and safe in this country. you heard vice president kamala harris really talking about the freedoms that are under threat. the freedom of the right to vote for millions of americans that is under threat because people are exercising their right to vote in record numbers. we have seen that. and remember, the big lie is something that persists after 2020 and something he was telling before 2020. he was raising this rigged and unfair elections, especially in cities with large population of black people.

that's really kind of where we are. the momentum that we are seeing here on the ground is being tempered by the reality that people have to get out and exercise their right to vote coming out of this. >> it's amazing. as you're talking, all the lies are still there. i mentioned this to jacob soboroff. in this hour yesterday over on fox news, they are pedaling the lie about birtherism and going in search of barack obama's birth certificate. it's sick. the lies not only don't die from the disinformation machine, even after an $800 million settlement for lying, they accumulate and build on one another. thank you for shining a light on them here. thank you both so much for being here today. when we come back, we'll go back inside the convention hall. we'll be joined by joy reed, our coverage continues after a short break. don't go anywhere. after a short break. don't go anywhere.

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is is ♪♪ in just one hour, day three of the democratic national convention gets underway. we're back once again with my dear friend joy reid live from inside the convention. how's it going, my friend? >> it's going very well. tonight is -- it's coach night. i think a lot of anticipation of minnesota governor tim walz. this is his big night. of course bill clinton speaking.

and, you know, some of the guests that are expected to be here -- stevie wonder is performing. i'm especially excited about that just on a personal level. so, i think it's going to be another big night. >> i know you have something to share with us. i want to see that. set it up. >> oh, absolutely. so, what i did today is something actually very cool. i went and i visited with and met with the colored girls, they call themselves. and this is minion moore, who is the chairwoman of the convention, donna brazil, tina forlorn, who is former chief of staff to vice president harris, yolanda caraway. they call themselves the colored girls. they worked for jesse jackson in the 1984 and 1988 presidential runs. they were his convention team, and now they basically run the democratic party in a lot of fundamental ways. and here is a little clip of them talking about the switch from biden to kamala harris.

>> joe biden talked to us before he made his selection. >> that's right. >> we actually talked to joe biden about what we thought she would add to the ticket and the value she represented. >> the one thing we have always prided ourselves in is making sure we get in there and understand how to move these chess pieces. we try to make sure we understand the rules that we're playing by, and that's what the vice president had the benefit of. we understood the rules. >> we knew a couple of things, and donna was very vocal about this, that if he decided that he was not going forward, no one was going to go around the vice president or through the vice president. >> that's right. >> no one was going to go around or through -- i love that. i love that. i love that. >> yeah. it gives me goosebumps. i'm overly excited. it gives me goosebumps just to have been in the presence of

these women, nicolle because i don't think people really can understand from the point of view of black women, when fanny hall of famer in 1964 tried to fight her way into the democratic party of mississippi because they wouldn't let black people in, but shirley chisholm -- that laid the groundwork for so much actual power for black folks inside of this party. and these five women, as the team, you know, for reverend jackson in '84 and '88 -- and in '88 he got so many delegates they had to change the whole party's structure and change the rules so barack obama could become nominee under those rules. now we have the first black woman, first asian american woman. that trajectory is so meaningful, nicolle, to black women because we know that behind the scenes even making sure that she wasn't skipped

when president biden decided not to run, that was not, like, a thing that just happened by happenstance. it was work. and it was the work of these women. and one of these women, minion moore, is running all of this. that means so much to me. my mother would be amazed and so proud that she chose to come to a country that could do that. >> so amazing. i have to ask you real quickly. michelle obama -- i saw your coverage after the speech. the one line, who's going to tell him the jobs he's looking for might just be one of those black jobs. i died. i died. she was just epic last night. >> epic. and i think -- people forget, i have seen her people before. i saw her speak in chicago when she was first lady. i think folks remember she is as

good or better than barack obama as a speaker. it was a sermon, it was an invocation, it was a charge to everyone in the room. i felt sorry for president obama that he had to follow her, honestly, because that is a hard job. >> everyone has said that, that she is everything he is and more. what he had on his face, it was like, thank you, honey, now everybody knows. now everybody knows. it was an exquisite series of just political events. joy reid, i'm so glad i got to talk to you today. i can't wait to see your entire conversation with those incredible women. thank you for making time for us. another break for us. we'll be right back. us another break for us we'll be right back. ok y'all we got ten orders coming in.. big orders!

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