minutes -- 11:22. that is serious malpractice on scheduling these speeches at they do this to the ey presidential nominee tomorrow night -- >> if you are worried this might have an impact because it keeps happening over and over again, start early. you don't have to cut anybody, in fact, you are less likely to cut anybody if you start earlier. i come on tv at 7:20 every night. >> all the viewers need an hour less sleep. obama's numbers went up at am 11:00 p.m. but if it had been at 10:00 p.m., he would've had a bigger audience. >> if you are just joining us right now, this is night three

of the democratic national convention, it is tim walz's night and it has been a remarkable series, of very big names giving very different speeches, very notably, oprah winfrey giving a heartfelt, perfectly videlivered speech, a real show of force from republicans for harris including olivia troy and the former lieutenant governor of georgia, makes him sound like he was a republican ouin office long time ago, cahe was lieutenant governor as a republican until last year and some very affecting an emotional material put forth in video form and on the stage about january 6th investigation and congress, a capital police sergeant that retired after being grievously injured and video that included footage i believe had never been seen before on what exactly transpired on that day ending with the stark words, if donald

trump is re-elected, he will never be held accountable for what he did that day. it's been a remarkable night. r >> alex was just putting this out about disunity or commonality of outreach, big tent, trying to build the progressive majority, you are invited in and we got to this moment in a strange way. nt the democratic party did not have a primer. they had this crazy speed run and had three weeks of the most anguished internal debates i've covered in my life or career. that led to this moment of unity but underneath that, some people are trying to say this unity g is fake. with the notable exception of israel and gaza, which is a very polarizing issue, which as of yet, is unresolved. on the issue of democratic domestic policy, there is just

a tremendous amount of unity. walz, when he was named, joe manchin came out and said, look, tim walz . there is no enormous tectonic battle on domestic policy, there is still a huge battle about israel and gaza and if folks representing the palestine community will be able to speak on the stage. that is a sort of exception to the role that has been on other areas of philosophy and governing. >> the internal debate in terms of whether president biden would stay at the top of the ticket, that is for real, that said, his decision when he decided he would no longer stand for re-election and he endorsed kamala harris, his decision approached 90% of americans saw it as the right

thing to do and will be seen as one of the most patriotic things ever done by a president. to have such upset and y consternation and legitimate, where do we go from here feeling within the democratic party that instantly coalesced around this new ticket and the way they brought people together is not just whiplash, it does feel like history and i don't know full ever see anything like it in our lifetime. >> what is so striking is the reality has been better than any script. there was scripting and fanfiction and off beds and theories and shadow conventions and fix primaries -- off beds about primaries as if the states don't figure out the primary process. jeffries was talking about spending the block and breaking up with donald trump but we've seen to great effect --

>> we broke up with you for a reason. >> in a different sense, not a full breakup but in a cathartic moving on, that is what we are seeing this week with biden to harris. it had been discussed, endorsed, but seeing this many people in the rooms giving tribute to joe biden and also settling on the new person, there's a difference between saying, i am over it and actually falling for the new person. >> she packed two massive arenas 90 minutes away from each other and raised $500 million in the last four weeks. it's not even like people have grown accustomed, they are pumped. >> they found that passion. it's different saying we are over this and we are really excited. >> there is a tape we want to play when we discussed gus

walz with tears in his eyes said, that is my dad, do we have that? with his dad on the stage. that is my dad. that moment. joy and alex -- is minnesota still going? >> in the words of the great w teddy riley, it eight over. the party is not over. they are still going. >> they are still at it. >> that hotel lobby is going to be lit. >> can i say something about the gus walz thing and masculinity and maga trying to own masculinity. to see tim walz out there as a

man who was just joyfully embracing his role as a potential vice president with the nation's first female president is an destroyed everything but also to see his son weeping for his father in a deeply tender unemotional way, and the last thing i will say, to see democrats champion men as voices of reproductive choice, as we saw yesterday and tonight from tim walz talking about struggles with infertility, it takes two partners to get pregnant and for way too long, this conversation has been relegated to women or the carriers of pregnancies and it is, i think, way overdue to have men express, not only their stake in all of theirs -- this, but their anguish. and to have a football cut --

coach talk about the anguish of infertility -- >> i love that you are saying that because this is about modern masculinity. in the democratic party, the coach that is saying, it is important for him as a football coach to be a faculty partner for the lgbtq alliance. he said that is important for me to do because if a coach is doing it, it will help kids not get bullied. what's really been fascinating is to watch the men of the democratic party model a kind of masculinity that is 21st- century masculinity. >> speaking of, that will lead in -- who would it be? the 21st century man himself.

tonight was your night as t chairing the event, were talking about this redefinition of masculinity in the wake of the national convention, what did you make of coach walz tonight? >> there is a deep decency and kindness about him, it is the perfect handoff, the joe biden i got to know during the presidential campaign, when someone is nice to you but not the waiter, they are not a nice person and that is joe biden, en that is tim walz too. >> they are nice to the waiters. >> yes, they have a love you can feel before you here. i wish america could've seen when he came backstage and was embraced by all of the football guys out there, it was a love huddle back there, the genuineness of their connection

and their affection. a bunch of guys huddled up in a love huddle and that is what we need in america. we've got to turn the page of the meanness, viciousness, putdowns,, to have a president who will go after you even if you are in his own party, the way he talked about my friend chris christie's weight, nicky haley's heritage, john mccain's military service. come on, do you expect that from the president of the united states of america? no, donald trump is indiscriminate in his viciousness. es we need kindness, joy, pragmatic policymaking again. >> one of the lines is we've got something better to offer the american people, it is a simple idea. he reinforced what bill clinton did, he laid out, and i quickly

fact checked it, 97.4% of the jobs created since 1989 were created between clinton, obama, and biden. donald trump had negative job creation and the bushes got 3%. make a case backed by data but also backed by vibes. everyone felt included whether they were republican or independent. oprah winfrey said, i am an independent and i am down with this. >> and she has children. >> we will rescue the cat. >> i think those folks are perfect. >> i saw what you did there. >> i am telling you right now, as a clear choice, and i really hope they choose love, e,

kindness, decency. the best book i ever had is all the mistakes i made and i have made hiring mistakes, i finally learned how to hire. it's not skill, first. i look at your moral compass and values. i look at your synergy for my team. then, i get to things like your ideas, training, and all of that. here are two people who bring synergy, energy, and a value system. i don't have to worry about turning on the tv and see harris or walz being vicious. i still remember that trauma of waking up and wondering what trump tweeted today. what to do about pete pole that were on both sides of the aisle. every day it was something different. er with this, when i saw michelle

obama, i really miss her husband. she should have been the last speech of the night. i love you. it just reminded you of those days where we did not half as he every single day have a list of outrageousness. haut >> and exhaustion for the outrage. >> people are over it. jeffries, we broke up, it is over. i think people forgot the policy of nice is viable. it works people say it works in new jersey but not the country. maybe it wasn't enough patients. >> they are member during the

trump years is having high- level military leaders. the military people, they know that real leaders, you hear things like leaders eat last, they put everybody first, the leader is the last one out of danger. there is an honor and sacrifice from leaders that you expect, not people who are all about me. the best leaders i know build great teams and support them. there is a lesson in leadership, it is not just about kindness, it's about what it takes to create a great organization. we are one nation, one destiny, we need to improve our organization or, the beloved community. who is best of these candidates to create that beloved community? to create america again. is it donald trump or coach walz and kamala harris ?

>> can you hear me senator? >> i can hear you loud and clear. >> i have a football question. we go all the way back to your football days and as a football player and as somebody who is actually very subtle and skilled about talking about, not just gender but masculinity and about had a row normative it he and all the things that politicians don't want to go near, you've been brave and strong about it, as someone who's lived your life and knows what that means to people, when they find out you are a varsity folk all coach at stanford, that means things to people. what you think it meant to the country to see the football players in their jerseys come out on stage to support coach walz? >> we all had amazing coaches

we would run through walls for and we had bad coaches and that is why i said earlier, what i saw when i was backstage, no cameras, the realness of the connection he had with his players, the loves they had for him reminded me of my great coaches. let me tell you something about for all, it is inadequate and probably in many ways way too far we often compare sports bleeding together, sweating together, fighting together, we make military allusions but when you go through three days with guys, when you get driven to the point of sheer exhaustion watching guys throw up and having to get back to the line and go again, it strips a lot of you away and you get to see what guys are

about and it creates an t intimacy on that field and i love and bonds that cannot be faked. this is why, for me as an ex- football player, i want to coach that knows that, lives that, and is that in the white house. when i heard that he was a coach and a coach that said, i will use football to embrace the lgbtq community, i will use it to talk about issues too far in the shadows, i will use that masculinity that is a privilege in this society to shine a light on people left out, this guy is a different kind of guy, the kind of guy we all know, the kind of guy we love and would follow as his players did that i can't wait for him to be vice president because when he e talks about issues, like the fact that we have not done any of the research on things like menopause or have a terrible

problem with things like maternal or tally. a guy like that looking people in the eye and say we have real problems with black women dying in childbirth because we don't c listen to them about their pain, this could be an epic leader going out of what people would call his brand or cast that can truly talk to all of america. >> senator cory booker, always a pleasure to talk with you. thank you so much. thank you. that is our coverage of the democratic national convention continuing as tim walz accepted the vice president nomination and they partied on indefinitely. stay with us here on msnbc. bc >> thank you, first of all to vice president harris, thank you for putting your trust in me

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♪ >> three -- the democratic convention just wrapped up, it's safe to say that everyone once to be neighbors with a walz family, we all saw the old guard of the democratic party come out like nancy pelosi, bill clinton, we saw the rising stars of the democratic party and we even saw oprah but tonight was governor tim walz tonight, and two weeks after that life- changing call from kamala harris, the former teacher and football coach walked out on the stage in chicago and introduced himself to the country. >> i grew up in butte, nebraska. a town of 400 people.

i had 24 kids in my high school class. and none of them went to yale. but, i will tell you what, growing up in a small town like that, you learn how to take care of each other. that family down the road, they may not think like you do, they may not pray like you do, they may not love like you do, but they are your neighbors and you look out for them and they look out for you. i am letting you in on how we started a family because this is a big part about what this election is about, freedom. when republicans use the word freedom, they mean the government should be free to invade your doctor's office,

corporations free to pollute your air and water, and banks free to take advantage of customers. but, when we, democrats talk about freedom, a better life for yourself and the people you love. freedom to make your own health care decisions. and yeah, your kids freedom to go to school without worrying about being shot dead in the hall. it is the fourth quarter, we are down a field goal, but we are on offense and we got the ball, we are driving down the field and boy, do we have the right team. kamala harris is top, kamala harris is experience and kamala harris is ready.

our job, our job, our job, for everyone watching, is to get into the trenches and do the blocking and the tackling one inch at a time, one guard at a time, one phone call at a time, one door knock at a time, one a five dollar donation at a time. look, we got 76 days, that is nothing. there'll be time to sleep when you are dead. we will leave it on the fields. >> joining me on set, michael and tim miller, and special correspondent and former campaign manager for president obama and also with us is the accretive director of msnbc live . luke, i will start with

you, it is your birthday and i will not sing to you because that would not be a gift to you or anyone watching but i want to start with you because you wrote this incredibly beautiful piece today about seeing the evolution of conventions through the eyes of your dad and you have been to so many conventions, i will let you talk about the actual piece but i wanted to ask you what you were feeling watching the family watching tim walz and him watching his kids. a rare moment, tell us about your peace and what you were thinking when you were watching that? >> let's talk about gus walz. politics is a tough, difficult business, it is so hard on families and no matter what your political persuasions are this evening, the way you saw the children react see their

dad, cheer for their dad, if nothing else, if you never wins another political race in his life, he won as a father and that is extraordinary, it tugs on your heartstrings, my heartstrings. everyone with the sole left knowing, this is a good guy. it brought so many memories of my childhood cheering on my father and knowing that my father loved me. you saw a convention of that old-time americana, football. you saw a democrat party that realizes, they have aproblem, instead of running away from it, they leaned into it. there is a sense of optimism, joy, that we are coming together as a diverse country to build this coalition and we will not fearmonger and we will

have a guy who is an incredible deer hunter from minnesota, was a high school football coach in the same room as an african american woman, same room with the lgbtq crowd, in one room altogether. >> no question about it. there is something a lot of people have said, which is it is unlikely that tim walz would end up on the stage, that is true but at the same time, politics is about how people make you feel, right? it is people representing the communities they were elected to represent and he is somebody, everyone thought, wow, he is our neighbor, he is our football coach, he is our teacher. it is a connection beyond politics. what you think people see or macy or you hope they see in tim walz ?

>> you have the right word, connection. people saw their neighbor, everyone knows coach walz, everyone knows someone who is their neighbor, friend, teacher, he connected in a normal way. he looked at the camera and said, this is what we are here for, this is what you will get the next 10 years. just filling in the blanks of this campaign. i thought it was a really important moment and i thought, america has a new political star and his name is coach walz. >> and gus walz will be the president of his fan club. one of the things that struck me about his speech, he is not the only one that this is true for, but is there comfort that so many elected men are talking

about abortion rights? it has been a real change and evolution in the party. he talks about abortion rights, ivf, he talks about his family, what do you make of that evolution? >> i interviewed walz a while ago and when he was in contention, he called me to tell me, i thought, if this guy gets anywhere near her, she is going to pick him because he is so charismatic and has an incredible warmth to him and he is a midwestern dad, but he is also very capable. he is still going over of minnesota, they codified row, they passed sick leave. have free lunches for kids and you don't have to show that you can't afford it where kids feel ashamed.

are these wild legislations in this country, yes. i feel kids should not starve, he doesn't either. i think the masculinity thing where they are trying to define a healthier masculinity is really great and i just think, both he and michelle obama talked about ivf, which we know republicans have in their crosshairs. i thought that was important too, these personal stories. that is the only way there will be safety and we will get a congressional leadership to codify it. >> no question about it. i'm in a bit of a former republican sandwich here. >> still a republican.

one slice is republican. >> i will define you for due. i don't think any of us thought we would be sitting on not set together necessarily talking about a convention like this -- >> or sparring on the set. >> tonight did not feel partisan overall to me. there were lines in walz's speech like growing up in a small town like that, you learn how to take care of each other. the neighbor down the road may not live like you or pray like you do but they are your neighbors. >> what i loved about tonight was something that i think was very different for democrats. they were actually running into the heartland. they were deliberately in the living rooms am the farm houses and the pubs and the places,

the halls of middle america and in the past, it was very easy for their opposition, republicans to talk about, these west coast liberals, we've already heard that a little bit about kamala harris. walz makes that a harder case to make because the conversation he is having with the country right now and they are paying attention. they are paying attention and there is a sense of relief and release and at the same time, you have kamala harris, who will round out that conversation as the presidential nominee and sort of bring in the other parts of the country so, now you get the complete package. in the past, it was kind of

like a hollowed out conversation where you had the disparaging comments about guys and their guns and all of that nonsense. that is gone. that side of the democratic party is gone and now, they are talking to the country and saying, we own a piece of this flag too because that is part of our american dream. >> we went right side up. >> that is a very important point. >> very much so. it was clear and obvious, the effort to flip the script, which we saw on freedom and rights, what do you make of that? >> it worked for me, the walz speech, speaking to progresses -- progressives, if you expand to the speakers leading up to him, you had oprah saying that i am an independent, i have traveled all over the country,

there are good conservatives, these values night is, you have westmore, pete, his speech could've been at a republican convention almost except they probably would not have had fond feelings of doubt the story about his family. but the text of his speech was not ideological at all, it was about our country, values, what unites us, what brings us together. you heard none of that in milwaukee out the rnc convention. was there one speaker in milwaukee that was like, progressives are americans too. they didn't even try to do that. what you saw tonight was a legitimate effort by the democrats to say, everyone is here no matter your color, religion, if you are an

immigrant. there is a certain type of old- school republican voter that that appeals to. >> i want to bring luke back here, what i thought was interesting, we forget until the convention comes up, it is a weeklong focus on each of the parties and it does showcase for the american public, the differences. sometimes, they are differences in policies but this year, there's a difference in feelings and inclusion. inclusion is the message of tonight but it is very different from milwaukee a couple weeks ago. what do you think about -- go ahead, luke. >> one of the things i wrote about, i'm born out of the 1980 democratic convention because that is where my parents met. i talk about how all of these

conventions i attended, while there was significant policy differences, there was a common appreciation of let the best candidate win. you go over the years and i was fortunate to see incredible speeches like that of state senator obama in 2004. i remember new york, the incredible video narrated about george w. bush throwing that perfect strike pitch after 9/11 when the rubble was still smoldering. there are these uplifting stories that have defined these conventions and each party was trying to do that and you saw a real turn in the last eight years were it was the idea of carnage and enemies from the conservative side and that is something which is not what conventions have been overall.

there would be fear mongering here and there, i remember miller's speech in 2004, but for the most part, you see this connective tissue of, we are a great nation, mitt romney said, i respect barack obama. you never hear things like that, now. what you are seeing with walz and vice president harris is a return to the idea that we may have some differences but overall, this is a really good experience. this is worth saving and framing it in a way that democrats had a difficult time making people aware that democracy is on the ballot for this election but when you start to bring up the things that make people happy, what was tonight? freedom and football.

that is americana, that is who we are as a country. if you say, you know what? this unity we have could build because if the other side wins, it may not be possible. one of the things i talk about, i've been to turkey. everyone said turkey is the best democracy in that part of asia, look what happened? autocracy is a slow thing that can sneak in there and i think that the campaign did a wonderful job of reminding americans of who we are and who we want. >> it's how it makes you feel at the end of the day. the vibes. the word of the year. thank you all, don't forget, luke and i will be in new york saturday september 7th, you can be there too, it is the final

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lunch every day. so, while other states were banning books from their schools, we were banishing hunger from hours. we also protected reproductive freedom because in minnesota, we respect our neighbors and the personal choices that they make. and even if we would it make those same choices for ourselves, we got a golden rule, mind your own business. >> minnesota governor tim walz telling a national audience about what he's done in office and what he believes in as he accepted the nomination for vice president. >> hello, michael. i love it, you are sporting

the walz hat, will you send us some of those? >> have the walz wednesday. >> that was quite a speech, he was introducing himself to the public, he was introducing himself as everyone's neighbor and coach, you are writing a plan, that is what you do all a lot of the time, who are you trying to reach with that speech. >> thank you for having me. what tonight really did was serve as a stepping-stone for the campaign. as harris selected tim walz as her running mate. boaters will decide the pathway, tonight was an opportunity to speak for the first time. governor walz is able to tell

his story and how that connects to the values he will fight for as vice president. he's been out coach and schoolteacher and those lessons lead to the governor's mansion. he will take those same values to the white house after we beat donald trump in november. we are excited about the energy and enthusiasm, but we remain laser focused on the work ahead we have to do over the course of the next 75 days. >> we've been talking about this speech. >> what is going on? tim miller, you have galvanized the face of the party. i'm curious looking forward how you will focus on bring in the nicky haley voters, you saw some of that messaging. what is the plan for getting those swing voters.

>> it is a good question, and a lot of it was on full display when you have an entire party and broader than that in support of the values of this ticket. unp all like the lieutenant governor of my state speaking to the fact that you may not agree with vice president harris on every single issue but if you care about the united states of america, democracy, rights and freedoms, upholding the rule of law in this country, there is room for you in this campaign. that is how you can grow the democratic party and the tim walz coalition as we move forward . our path to victory is not just across the blue wall but the sun belt states in the large segment being a moderate and conservative voters who continue to reject the maga extremism. >> we know it's been a journey the last several weeks, we are

happy you are there, thank you for joining us. we have to take a quick break, the congressman is standing by, he knows governor tim walz very well, don't go anywhere, we will be right back. back. ed gu. call leaffilter today. and never clean out clogged gutters again. leaffilter's technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good. guaranteed. call 833.leaf.filter today, or visit leaffilter.com.

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receiving end of it. but more often than not, what i witnessed and experienced are human beings, both conservative and liberal, who may not agree with each other, but who still help you in a heartbeat if you were in trouble. these are the people, who make me proud to say that i am an american. >> turns out, oprah winfrey is very, very good at this. we have another full hour of life convention coverage coming up. we will have highlights of all of the tonight's big speeches and a lot more, including pete buttigieg, josh shapiro and opera, and we have also got former students in football players and tim walz is stopping by, can't wait to talk for them, don't go anywhere, we will be right back. ght back.

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okay, we are all still here, and we have not even scratched the surface of all of the things that happened at the convention on the third night that happened this evening. if you had told governor tim walz a few months ago, that he would be the main event in a night when bill clinton and oprah winfrey spoke, he might not have believed you. that is something to remember tonight, but tonight was definitely tim walz's night. accepted the party's nomination for vice president and appeared to be a living embodiment, a vessel of the joy and hope that is radiating right now through the democratic party. >> i grew up in butte nebraska. a town of 400 people, i had 24 kids in my high school class. and none of them went to yale.

but i will tell you what, growing up in a small town like that, you learn how to take care of each other. that-- that family down the road, they may not think like you do, they may not pray like you do, they may not love like you do, but they are your neighbors. and you look out for them, and they look out for you. you know, you might not know it, but i haven't given a lot of big speeches like this. but i have given a lot of pep talks. so, let me-- let me finish with this, team. it is the fourth quarter. we are down a field goal. but we are on offense and we have got the ball, we are driving down the and boy, do we have the right team.

>> at the end of the day, the story of governor walz is a reminder that sometimes people kind of overthink things in politics. you have to speak in a fancy way or dress in a certain way, but it is actually not about that at all, because politics is really about how you make people feel. it is about how you connect with people. and tim walz makes people feel like you could run into him at the corner store, a football game and just have a normal conversation with him, maybe have a laugh. and he clearly connected with kamala harris, which is why she picked him over a deep, deep bench of democratic talent, many of whom we heard from tonight. but up on that stage in chicago, it is safe to say he connected with a whole lot of voters across the country, maybe even some of them who didn't know him before. joining me know, former rnc chairman, michael still, to miller, both after dark night guys, and a guy with us from chicago, maria teresa kumar, thank you for being with us, and fenwick clerk, democratic party chair for the state of

wisconsin, we have a photo we are going to ask you about, i will give you a little tease on that. and we also have former texas congressman, beto o'rourke, who has known tim walz, since their first day together. let me start with you, because we have talked about governor walz before, and the country is just getting to know him, but you have known him as a friend, as a colleague, for quite some time. what was it like watching that speech? and what did you think of the speech he delivered? >> it absolutely blew me away, and it just makes me so incredibly proud, and then you add to that what, you know, you have been talking about, which is this response from his family, when and hope, and especially gus, and it moves all of us to tears. you are not a human with a beating heart if you weren't crying when you are watching his 17-year-old son respond to his dad, with the most extraordinary pride in the world. and that just says volumes about the man and the father that tim walz is, and it just

makes me so happy for our country that someone, who has been known, not for being on cable tv or social media or grandstanding or giving big speeches, but instead, for doing the work, for being a great dad, being a loving husband, a great football coach, high school teacher, leader of the day-straight alliance. this is the guy who did the work, quietly and importantly for the people he wanted to serve, has been elevated into this extraordinary position of public trust, as nominee for the democratic party, for the vice presidency, and lastly i just want to say this, you know, this party through the three days of this convention, culminating thus far in tim walz's speech, it looks like, it sounds like and most importantly, it feels like a winning team. and it just gives me great confidence and optimism going forward into november. >> everybody is saying words like joy out loud, calling for joy in a year that has not been

the case for that one. i want to bring in michael steele who has been dying to ask about texas politics. >> i have. congressman, this is a real treat to have you want tonight. look, i have been a student of your great state for 20 years since i was state chairman in maryland. when i did a guilt trip down to texas with some buddies, and i have watched your state and learned a lot about it, and one of the things i want to get your read on our the dynamic changes that have occurred in your state. and i looked at your race for u.s. senate, i looked at a couple of other races in your state, where democrats have learned to have the conversation that we are starting to see the broader party have, nationwide. and we heard a lot of that tonight. you just touched on some of those themes. every day common sense, mom-and- pop things, that embrace the flag, that embrace culture, that embrace the faith of communities. how do you see texas saying that

, let is going to win texas, everybody put the loopy juice down, that is not what i am saying. but i think there is a lot of competitive that do flow through the state. on the record officially saying 2028 texas is a battleground stay for quite full host of reasons i think you understand real well. if you could give us a sense of how you think this ticket can play in a state, like texas today? >> well, michael, part of the reason that i am talking to you from this dimly lit hotel rooms room in houston, is that i, and our volunteers are crisscrossing the state, registering likely democrats, who are eligible but not yet on the roles. they are the sleeping majority, here in texas, the state that makes it harder than any other to register to vote or to cast a ballot. so, we need to make sure that we are giving these young people that extra help. as tim knows, because i just shared the this with him on the podcast, obama lost to texas by

16 points in his reelect s hillary by nine points, joe biden by only 5 1/2. no state is moving faster into battleground territory, to your point, michael, than texas is. it is a matter of time and effort. the more effort we put in, the shorter the wait is going to be. but to michelle obama's point from last night, which i thought, maybe second to tim walz today is the best speech that i have heard. the operative word is action. you have got to do something, you can't wait, you can't worry, you can't help the calvary will come to arrest you, you cannot believe, as some democrats have in the past, that demographics are going to be our destiny. it has got to be the work. as walz said tonight, it is every yard, every inch we have got to fight for, through the most competitive congressional races in the country this year are in texas. that mary very well may decide the balance of power in the house, and as you know, the biggest pickup opportunities for democrats in the senate is with against ted cruz.

we only lost to that guy by two and half points in 2018. this is very doable if we do the work. >> i think we should all just start calling ted cruz that guy. we will take that piece away. >> that is what the republicans in the senate call him. >> that guy, it is very diplomatic. i want to bring in been wickler. he is from a neighboring state. there is an overlapping media market. the people in wisconsin know tim walz, at least in a portion of the state. what does his being on the ticket and his speech, like the one he gave tonight, mean, and maybe speak to it from the perspective of sitting with the wisconsin delegation tonight. what was their reaction? >> the entire wisconsin delegation is horse, including me, from cheering so loud for tim walz tonight. i was talking to a wisconsinite earlier this week and she said, he is like my dad. there are so many wisconsinites who feel that way. and there are other

wisconsinites who wish that maybe their that was more like tim walz. i will say, as a dad, i want to be more like tim walz. seeing that moment with guys, tim walz's son made me tear up, as we are recalling it, having that conversation. and i was watching us, 50 feet away, with tears streaming down my face in the middle of that speech. all of us have come inside, this desire to be someone-- the best version of ourselves, someone we would be proud of, and what we heard tonight's person after person testifying that tim walz had that effect on them. tim walz, the guy who took on extra work to help pay off a kid's school lunch debt and then found a job coaching seventh grade track and took the track team to his state championship. you could use movies about this. someone probably will make movies about this. but we have a chance to elect that guy that everyone thinks, man, if only people like him were in politics. that is what oprah said. if only people like this run

for office, well, he is running for office and we can vote for him, what an amazing moment. across wisconsin people are feeling that way tonight. >> it was definite excitement in that room. i love hearing what was going on in the delegation. you know i am not going to let you off of the hook about this photo. because one of the great things about convention is people learn about traditions and states and what is going on in the states. there we have a photo, that is you, ben wikler. if for people that don't know about wisconsin, what is going on in that photo? >> i am wearing a cheese head, which in wisconsin is a customary form of dress, if you want done a wisconsin street, as people will be wearing a cheese head. it is like what the fedora wasn't 1920s new york. i recommend people visit wisconsin, with a cheese head in hand, because if you walk out the play not wearing one, it will seem a little weird to someone living in the airport. >> there we go. everyone, we all want cheese hats.

we are getting other hats from michael taylor, a lot of hats happening. all right, let me go to you. you were so engaged in registration and activism, and one of the things that i heard, thematically tonight, and actually last night too, were specific calls to action. you heard michelle obama do that last night, basically saying, you are not going to get a call, the time is too short. i am inviting you now to be involved. tim walz did this tonight. tim walz basically said send this to your independent friends, very specific. but that seems to be a part of the messaging, how helpful is that? and what you think you are going to take way to kind of push that into email list and communications, you and your organization are going to be doing over the coming days? >> so, jen, let me first just start, who doesn't want to have a beer with tim walz? everyone wants to have a beer, because that is someone he understands and connects with. on one thing that is very clear

in the democratic party and i think in the progressive movement and all of the speeches your tonight is that we are joyous today, but the work literally starts on friday, and that means we need to grow the electoral base, we all understand the assignment, because we understand that the other side is going to go up with all of the shenanigans. because this is what was really interesting in the conversation. every single speech said, there is a balance between us mobilizing, talking to voters, mobilizing them, making sure they are registered, making sure they are turning out. at the same time, there are going to be shenanigans where people are going to give you this information, they are going to try to print your voter file, so make sure that you are woke, it woken, and you are participating. and one of the things that i found, and particularly-- that they are going to vote, not just for themselves, but their families and they are going to turn out. and when you take a balance of what was happening at the rnc convention, compared to tonight

you really kind of scratch your head. here, you have tim wallace, who clearly understands what it means to be a family man. what it means to have difficulty in conceiving your first child with hope. and he walks you through that process and he talks about the pain that he felt, and then you have jade events, that basically looks at women and has marginalized every single sector that he needs in order to mobilize and win. the women who are premenopausal, the women who are single, the women who love cats, i mean, there is no way that republicans right now can grow the base and you know who votes at the end of the day? women. so, tonight it was a testament, not only to the values of the democratic party, the progressive movement, but that they understand how to expand the base. i will tell you, anecdotally, both of you know, we have been looking, specifically at places like texas that you o'rourke was talking about, georgia, north carolina, and for the first time in 25 years that i have been doing this?

you have kamala harris pulling at 60%, trump at 29% and rfk at 7%. for the first time since pre- obama you have literally republicans taking a second look and saying, you know what? i kind of feel that i am with her. and that is not just women, it is independent, moderate men as well. >> those are some pigment numbers, as numbers go. >> is a possibility. >> that's right. i was a lot on the walls macspeech and i want to play another clip of it where he talks about project 2025, because i thought it was very interesting, we will come back and talk about it. >> take donald trump and jd vance. their project 2025 will make things much, much harder for people who are just trying to live their lives. they spent a lot of time pretending they know nothing about this. but look, i coached high school football long enough to know,

and trust me on this, when somebody takes the time to drop a playbook, they are going to use it. >> we love a football coach analogy. that people listen to and like. let me bring you into this, because it was a very positive and uplifting speech. he did talk about some of his record, but he had a good attack lying there, on jd vance, and on project 2025. you also had keenan thompson tonight with a big project 2025 book, i mean, they are really trying to insert this into the convention, what you think about that? >> yeah. the guy can go on offense and i love the point that you made earlier that, somehow democrats have escaped this fear, under which they were operating for so long, and frankly, probably some level of intimidation from this, you know, crazed maga movement, or certainly the head of that, in donald trump.

there is just something in tim walz, and his confidence and comfort, and again i was talking about this with tim. his masculinity, where he doesn't have to dump on other people, he doesn't have to punch down. he can be, both the football coach you win the state championship, he can be the leader of the day-straight alliance, he can be that guy that all of us want to have in our lives, and he can call out the bully, without being afraid of him. he can say, hey, this guy is weird. he is saying some really strange things. let me correct the record and tell you who we really are as a country, and just making sure that you know that that donald trump and jd vance wants to take us on is really bad for all of us, it is that for our families, it is better for the people in our lives that we love, it will be really bad for our country. and he did that without fear, without doom and gloom. it is really something amazing,

and i think that is a component of the joy that we are all talking about and informs the smiles that you see on everybody's faces at that convention. he is a happy warrior and i think that describes the democratic party right now. >> yeah. a lot of happy warriors out there. tim, you have done a lot of messaging out there. the vice presidential nominee doesn't-- this is a shorter runway, tim walz has kind of taken off like a rocket ship. is this going to matter historically more than it has? >> there have been some vp faceplates in our lives than bp ads. i guess the closest model is really joe biden right? and i think there's a lot of similarities they are. >> joe biden said they would be friends. >> and you can kind of sense that good >> listening to tim walz's speech, beto and maria teresa kumar they are doing the work out there. but the walls macspeech, the thing that strikes me is just the cell phone of the

republicans, our former party was just left on the table for democrats to take. football, freedom, faith, and i think about how much we heard about references to the bible, hakeem jeffries, over multiple seeker speakers. >> anti-semitism. >> exactly. football, faith, freedom, the olympics? the biggest cheer last night for the obama's-- well, maybe it was the joke at trump's expense, but the second-biggest was the olympics and patriotism, being proud of the country, all of that, the democrats could have talked about that at any convention, but those are all winning wedge issues right now because republicans have gotten so weird and they have rejected that. they have actively said, oh, the olympics had a drag queens in there, you know? the football, they kneeled for the flag. all of the stuff that the democrats were just given this huge opportunity to a uniting convention. and i think that's tim walz is a good avatar for that could

>> i love that, owning the olympics in football. what are-- like 90 of the top 100 most-watched things every year our football. so-- >> you got disney now too. >> which is the perfect tease, because we are going to talk to some tim walz football player students coming up. ben wikler, maria teresa kumar, beto o'rourke, i want to echo what he says all of the organizing the work that you do, i appreciate you coming on today as well. we are taking a very, very quick break. as i said, we will speak to two people who know tim walz, not just as a governor, but a teacher and a coach. they were on stage tonight, and we are looking forward to this conversation all night. we will be right back. back. she grew up in a middle class home. she was the daughter of a working mom. and she worked at mcdonald's while she got her degree. kamala harris knows what it's like to be middle class.

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powering 5 years of savings. powering possibilities. so, you may have heard this phrase before, especially if you are a friday night lights fan, full hearts, clear eyes, can't lose. it certainly felt like those words can do like tonight, when coach wells's students, who totally seem to revere him, took to the stage moments before he accepted the nomination for vice president. >> tim walz is the kind of guy you can count on to push you out of a snow bank. i know this, because tim walz has pushed me out of a snow bank. coach walz got us excited about

what we might achieve together. he believed in us, and he helped us believe in each other. and his leadership stuck. that track team went on to win a state title, just like the football team. that's right. speaking of which,, and out, scarlett's. yeah! >> ♪ >> it was those players and my students who inspired me to run for congress. they saw in me what i had hoped to instill in them. a commitment to the common good , an understanding that we are all in this together. and the belief that a single person can make a real difference for their neighbors. so, there i was, a fortysomething high school

teacher, with little kids, zero political experience, and no money, running in a deep red district. but you know what? never underestimate a public school teacher. never. >> and joining us now is been a man, who just heard there, during the introduction, coach walz coach tim in high school in track. and john croman, i hope i am saying your name right, how do i say your last name? >> sean coleman, who is one of the players on the 1999 championship team with coach walz you are wearing your mankato west. is that from 1999? your jersey there? >> unfortunately it is not the original one, but the principle of the school was nice enough to bring us a box of jerseys to wear. >> i was very impressed, it looks like it is in good shape.

ben, let me start with you. the governor was a big part of your childhood, you live next door, he was your teacher and coach, how did it feel? and frankly, how surreal was it to watch them except the vice presidential nomination tonight? >> yeah, well, the whole thing has been wild. honestly, it just feels pretty magical, because knowing who he is, down in his heart, you know, what he what you see is what you get, really, so, it really feels kind of like magic. >> you didn't seem nervous, somehow, when you went on the stage. that is a huge stadium. where universe? or what was going through your head? >> honestly, when i-- i was very nervous coming right up to it, but then i ran into these guys backstage, and they put me back into that frame of mind of being a part of that high school and part of that community, that really helped a little bit. so, i'm glad i didn't seem nervous. >> yeah. it is quite a high school reunion.

let me ask you, you also made history with governor walz. he recruited you to be a kicker for the football team. so, i will ask you the same question. what was it like to watch your former coach up there, giving that speech? you have tens of thousands of people cheering for him in that room. >> yeah. completely surreal. but it has been an amazing, just like in the last few days for all of us, that is when we found out this was going to happen, it was on friday this last week. so, we got in just yesterday, and it has ended up being this amazing, kind of high school reunion as well. we have seen all of these students and players and alums from the last six or seven years of classes, and that was totally unexpected. and no one has really kept that in touch over the last 20, 20 years. so, it has been awesome. >> everybody doesn't have this kind of reunion. okay, ben you give us a realties on the snow bank story, but you did not tell us the whole story, so, how did

tim walz, governor tim walz, night now vice presidential nominee, pull you out of a snow bank? >> well, yeah, not much to the story, really, so i was pulling out of my driveway and clipped the snowbank, because i was 17 years old and not very good at driving. and he saw, and so, then he ran out in his boots and got in the snow and there is a technique to it, but he started heaving and, you know, stuck up there reverse on the drive with his heaving and i got out. the no words, just waved and said thanks. >> that's it. everybody's neighbor. i am going to bring in tim here to ask you guys a question as well. >> sean, i am dying to know. is there like a football team text chain going on? everybody's politics aren't the same these days, so what was going on when you were invited to chicago, what was going on was the vibe between everybody? >> i mean, there was a lot of excitement to get out here, but yeah, there were a bunch of players who didn't come out here, just because they had things going on. and i think the ones that came

out, there is a big contingent of the 99 championship team that came out. walz first championship, state championship, so that was just awesome to see. >> tell us about that 99 championship. it was a close game? blowout? >> it was a close game, but we had maybe, from day one, the coaches, including coach walz knew that was our year to win the championship, so they were putting up posters of what was then the metrodome. the place where we played on our lockers in high school, we played back in august, and that fed right up through the season's playoffs and into the final championship. >> very cool. before we let you guys know, i know it is very light, so thank you for staying up with us on a big night. i went to ask each of you, i will start with you, ben, what you hope the country sees about coach walz, neighbor walz, and teacher walz? >> oh boy. i just -- i have never met

anybody with as much integrity as him. i mean, he has got really strong beliefs, and he walks the walk. everything he does is in alignment with what he believes, so that is what i hope people see. >> what about you, sean? >> you know, i think both he and his wife are the best teachers that i ever had, i have ever had, and i just can't tell people enough that who tim is now, as this potential candidate going into this, it is no different than who he was as a teacher, and so, he is just so powerful that way and so inspiring to his students. and now to the country. so, it is an honor to be a part of this. >> i love talking to you both, we love talking to you both, thank you so much. i know it has probably been a whirlwind of a night. so, we really appreciate you being with us this evening, or this morning. we have to sneak in a very quick rake. we have to hear what some of what josh shapiro and oprah winfrey said tonight. we will be right back after a really quick one. ♪ contr ol of s means everything to me ♪

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okay. if you couldn't tell by the beyonce campaign anthem, democrats, and specifically the harris-walz campaign are definitely seizing on the theme of freedom. >> donald trump, a man with no guardrails, once to take away us and our freedoms. and listen, while he quotes himself in the blanket of freedom, what he is offering isn't freedom at all.

because, hear me on this. it is not freedom to tell our children what books they are allowed to read. no, it is not. and it is not freedom to tell women what they can do with their bodies! and hear me on this, it sure as isn't freedom to say you can go about, but he gets to pick the winner. that is not freedom! >> there are people who want you to see our country as a nation of us against them. people who want to scare you, who want to rule you, people who would have you believe that books are dangerous. and assault rifles are safe. that there is a right way to worship and a wrong way to love. people that seek first to

divide, and then to conquer. but here's the thing. when we stand together, it is impossible to conquer us. >> joining our conversation is pennsylvania state representative, malcolm, it is great to see you, thank you for staying up with us, late with us this morning. let me just start. i mean, that was your governor there. he was right before oprah, of course. and he has been doing this freedom, flipping the script messaging, for sometime now. and i find it very effective. as tim said before, the democrats are sort of stealing a lot of the things that used to be republican stalwarts, freedom, rights, olympics. >> patriotism, constitution. >> pocket constitutions. >> what did you make of governor schapiro's speech and also about this effort to flip the script?

>> you know, listen, i don't think democrats are taking anything from republicans at all, democrats are reminding all of us that to love this country is to fight for what this country actually stands for, and i think, being from pennsylvania, we have a little bit of a chip on our shoulder in general, but certainly when it comes to american democracy. i was first year and i will tell you this, we are going to save it. the thing that has already frustrated me about donald trump is that, from the very beginning, his thesis of the problem has been run. he has had from the beginning that america is a crappy place, america is an awful place that only he can make great and a part of the reason america is bad is that, you know, the person down the street-- i mean, think about what is at the core of the election lie, right? to believe the election lie, to believe the big lie, you have to believe that the little old lady who shows up at polling places all across my community twice a year, because it is her way of giving back, that she is a part of a grand conspiracy.

and that she is the problem with the country, because she is trying to steal your vote. pitot people there are bad things happening in philadelphia, with communal, the nice little ladies who just want to make sure everybody can access their rights to vote. when the reality is, the only way america has ever solved big problems is that we see our neighbors as a part of the solution, and what democrats are finally doing is not ceding the ground to this false narrative that only republicans love the flag, that only republicans love god, that only republican let freedom. listen, i grew up in a black church, where we started service with sunday school, and we didn't end until my pastor went to the second church that he was a visiting preacher, so, whether it is god, whether it is space, whether it is patriotism, listen, we will put our record up against anybody's any day of the week and try to bring in people to say this country is for all of us. >> one, michael pitts back representative, good to see megan, it has been a long time. you actually make the point that i want to come to, because

you said a very important word, finally democrats are finally not ceding that ground, but up until now, they have, and what i find important and fascinating at the same time is how that came about. because when you look at the arc of the last month and, this whole campaign started in one direction, and has ended in a different place than it otherwise would have been, and it really speaks to how all of this kind of exploded out, in a way that democrats found a voice to begin to take back those narratives and to to find them, ironically, and interestingly again, as uniquely american. talking about the american dream, talking about family, faith, culture, and bringing them together. how does-- how does, as a young up-and-coming democrat--

elected official-- democrats elected official, and a very important state like pennsylvania, how does that make you feel? and how do you see your leadership leaning more into that side of the conversation going forward? >> michael, thank you for calling me young, i hope my daughter is asleep, she tries to call me old. thank you, for the record. but you know what? there is, there is this whole idea that we have been talking about a passing the torch, and it started with joe biden puppy courageous leadership, recognizing that, because of the work, so many folks have done before, before us, you have a whole generation of folks who work chomping at the bit to get in the arena to move this country in a direction that includes all of us, to move this country forward.

you know, yesterday when i was on that stage i talked about my grandmother, who was deeply involved in the civil rights movement, and she called me and said to me, i am so sorry that you are still fighting these battles, and as i said on that stage, it really is our turn. it is our turn. and what is so exciting to me, when i talked to young people, even folks who are frustrated with the political system, you do here this really yearning for them to try to find their footing. for some people they say, hey, it is not electoral politics, but there is a nonprofit that i was volunteering at for a long time and i think we should do our programming this way. right? i think we need to be reaching people this way. we have people speaking up in meetings at work, taking on extra responsibility, you know, at their faith community. whatever it is, you see this generation of people who are grateful, deeply, forever grateful for the folks who have given us the opportunity and

laid the path for us, but who are recognizing, you know what? we are ready to do this. we are ready to lead, and it is the responsibility of us to lead. every generation. we don't just rest on the laurels of the folks who came before us. we step up to address the new and complex challenges at this moment, and i think we are in a moment, as coach walz said, where we are ready to turn the page on donald trump. i can't think of a person, who is more last season, last episode than donald trump. we really have a guy, who might be watching this program right now in the middle of the night, yelling at clouds. that is not a person who needs to be president. that is a person who should be retired, talking about his yesteryears, talking about 2016, talking about the former person who was running for president. we have a presidential nominee in kamala harris, and a partner

in governor tim walz, who are ready to turn the page and ready to address the challenges of the next 20, 30 years. >> to paraphrase barack obama, the sequel is often worse than the original. thank you so much, pennsylvania state representative, michael, we really appreciate talking with you. and coming up, one of the most convincing and powerful arguments tonight did not come from a democrat. we will be right back to play and talk about it. it. clinically proven to remove skin tags safely in as little as one treatment.

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one of tonight's most powerful speakers, in my opinion, was not a democrat, former lieutenant governor jeff duncan uses time to appeal directly to republican and independent voters who are quote, sick and tired of making excuses for donald trump. >> i am a republican, but tonight, i stand here as an american. in american that cares more about the future of this country than the future of donald trump. my journey started to this podium years ago when i realized donald trump was willing to lie, cheat and steal to try to overturn the 2020 election. i realized trump was a direct threat to democracy, and his actions disqualified him from ever stepping foot into the oval office again.

let me be clear to my republican friends at home watching. if you vote for kamala harris in 2024 you are not a democrat. you are a patriot. >> i want to start with the fact that it has become a little bit normalized that republicans are kind of speaking on behalf of democratic candidates but that guy was a rising star in the georgia republican party, yes? >> very much so, and you know, as he said he came to a realization after the 2020 election, seeing what happened in his state of georgia, how the president tried to put his

finger on the scale there to steal the election, and unlike some of the republicans that we know very well out of washington and elsewhere around the country, he did not capitulate. he valued the country more than he valued his political position as a sitting lieutenant governor of the state, as a rising political figure in the republican party, and that matters and what he did tonight for me and i want to look at the camera and say thank you. thank you, governor for what you did, because you established the permission structure for those republicans and independents in the right, wherever you happen to be on the scale to say it's okay. it's okay. i can do this because i am a patriot, and i will be happy to disagree with president harris at another time but right now in this moment we cannot let that man anywhere near the white house and kudos, bro.

>> i thought it was very well done, his speech. he had the memento from his son that he pulled out of his pocket which was very good. you and i talked a lot about the bridge, the permission structure to extend to republicans, to independents who might not vote for democrats. what did they do with that speech and do you think jeff duncan will go out and campaign or is it like this is it, i'm doing this and that's it. >> i think you will campaign. just duncan is particularly powerful because he is a conservative republican, real conservative down the line said tonight he disagrees with kamala harris on policy. i thought that was good to say just clearly. we disagree on policy. that is a christian

conservative downline social conservative so i think he can be useful to folks in georgia and i do think the thing with the sun is -- it speaks to people's higher angels which is what you wanted the convention like that which is doing the right thing is never the wrong thing and to have his son say to him i'm going to steal you, you can do the right thing like keep doing it. i thought that was a really sweet moment. >> always bring up the kids but can i say real quick, the question is not what will those republicans do. it is what will the harris-walz campaign do with those republicans. >> if they are willing to do it. >> if they are willing to, because this is not a one-way street and at the end of the day i can tell you by first- hand experience, you're going to need those republicans in critical states like pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, georgia, north carolina, arizona. it is not just those republicans, 70,000 of them got a call last week and had a call

about what you are seeing unfolding now. the next step is what does the campaign do to embrace it, talk about it, level it up. >> that is a good note to end on. thank you for staying up late. that does it for me tonight but tomorrow is going to be a huge night as kamala harris excepts the democratic nomination for president. special coverage starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow. let us choose truth. let us choose honor, and let us choose joy. because, that is the best of america. but, more than anything else, let us choose freedom. why? because that is the best of america. we are all americans, and together, let's all choose kamala harris.

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