welcome back. 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm jose diaz-balart, alongside my colleague and friend ana cabrera with another hour of coverage. in a couple of hours, vice president harris will make one of the most important speeches of her life, when she addresses not only her party, but all

americans with her vision for the future of our country. >> last night her running mate governor tim walz accepted the vp nomination by taking on the trump campaign and project 2025. as several other high profile names also took the stage in chicago to rally for the vice president, and against donald trump. >> let us choose common sense over nonsense! we won't be set back, pushed back, bullied back, kicked back, we're not going back! >> take it from a man who once had the honor to be called in this convention a man from hope, we need -- we need kamala harris, the president of joy, to lead us. >> but, look, i coached high

school football long enough to know, and trust me on this, when somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they're going to use it. and it's an agenda that does nothing for our neighbors in need. is it weird? absolutely. absolutely. but it is also wrong. >> and in one of the night's most memorable and touching moments, governor walz's son gus was moved to tears as he watched his father's speech. >> that was a very touching moment, especially as parents, you can just, you know, know what that must feel like to be the governor and in that moment. joining us now is nbc's andrea mitchell and yamiche alcindor, aaron haynes, editor at large at the 19th and basil smikle, democratic strategist and former executive director of the new york state democratic party, now an msnbc political analyst. >> yamiche, dnc has been building up to this moment all week. what can we expect tonight from the vice president?

>> this is really the biggest speech of vice president harris' career and i'm told by multiple sources familiar with her speech preparations that she has been meticulously preparing for this moment, she's been going over every comma, every word, one source told me and she has three big goals, we can put up a graphic, she wants to share her story and her record. that means including her back ground, her professional background as a prosecutor, the cases that she took on, but also her personal background, growing up in a working class family, a middle class family, talking a lot, i'm told, about her mother and the values that she taught her about being maybe the first but definitely not the last and wanting to really help others. she also is going to provide an optimistic vision to contrast what former president donald trump's agenda, and the campaign is saying that she is really going to both attack former president trump for wanting to bring this country back, those chants, we don't go back, we don't want to go back. she wants to lay out in talking about policy and also talking about joy, which she sees as the future of america.

she's going to root her vision in patriotism. and i'm told she really wants to make sure it is clear she wants to be a president for all americans. and, here, i'm told, vice president harris' team is trying to be very cautious about race and gender. she's of course going to be a history-making woman, the first black woman, first south asian woman to be at the top of a major part's ticket, so they want to mark that moment, but they also want to really hammer home the idea that she wants to help all americans, and she's qualified, she's earned this, she has accomplishments to prove why she should be on that stage, so all of those things are going to be part of that. i'm told she's going to praise president biden in this speech, taking a lot of time talking about she is loving him and she really does feel grateful for his leadership. >> so, andrea, you know, the vice president may not be really focusing on her gender or her race, but we have to acknowledge she is only the second woman to ever top a presidential ticket for a major party. she is the first woman of color to do so.

so, just how big and historic is this moment tonight? >> it is huge. it is so historic. really the paving the way for her in the convention as well as in politics has been hillary clinton and michelle obama certainly in this convention. because hillary clinton did all of that history for her, pointing out the path that women -- starting more than 100 years ago, finally getting the vote and the path that her mother and others of that generation had following the suffragettes and shirley chisholm, 1972, a woman of color, just starting out. and as women progressed and as hillary clinton made it possible, really, for kamala harris to not emphasize gender as much, donald trump is doing that, of course, but she has to be able to respond and michelle obama dealt with the whole issue of race and the attacks and how

to fight back and have the party fight back for her, but have her focus more on her provocations as yamiche says, her resume is full, she does have foreign policy credentials from the intelligence committee, from being attorney general, from being d.a. fighting crime. donald trump often did not take the daily briefing when he took it, the analysts had to do it with photos and images because he didn't want to read. and she studied hard and i've been reporting this from top state department and national security officials, they think that her learning curve may have been steep, but after four years, almost four years as vice president, she knows her stuff. >> erin, you've been covering the vice president for years. how much of the speech do you think will be leaning on policy versus broader campaign themes and yamiche was talking to us about the three pillars that

she's going to be -- how much do you think it is going to be policy? >> i think that the main goal from the sources that i've talked to and just asking about the thinking that is going into the speech, it is really important that the vice president really introduces herself to the country tonight. and i know that that may sound, you know, strange given she has been vice president for three years. she is somebody who did run for president in 2020, though she, you know, you know, exited that race before the primary. but a lot of people do not know the vice president, even one who was in a history-making position as the second most powerful person in the country, so really, introducing herself to the american people is something that i think we have seen people like the second gentleman doing and other people who know the vice president very well, secretary clinton was somebody who also has a personal relationship with her who has talked about her, the obamas also talked about her. but she really is going to be talking about herself and especially in a way that i think four years ago we did not see

her doing, you know, as much or as comfortably as we're seeing now, but really owning her story and telling that story to the american people i think is going to be her priority. i know 75 days left and that did not seem like a lot of time. but there is still time to kind of talk about policy and what the plan is, but really getting -- giving people a chance to get to know her and really starting that process begins -- a lot of that begins tonight with the speech. >> this has been a wild ride for democrats the last several weeks and for the country, frankly. this was not the convention we all expected it would be about a month ago. how is this working out for your party? >> well, you know what, it is interesting because if it had been -- listen, i think i said this before, we have been in a sort of anti-trump posture for a long time. and in -- for some voters it seemed more mechanical. and what happened since kamala

harris has taken the baton is that it is now a pro-kamala race. given everything that folks said thus far, there is a laser focus on kamala harris. you would not have had the kind of fund raising numbers we have seen. half a billion dollars in a really short period of time, record-breaking. i don't think you would have seen that if we had -- if we were where we were, you know, two months ago, and certainly if as some had said we would have had a contested convention, if we had had that, we wouldn't have the kind of laser focus that i think democrats have right now. and that's critically important as she takes the stage tonight, she needs to prosecute the case against donald trump and if you remember one of her first speeches after joe biden stepped down was that not only did -- is she willing and able to prosecute the case against donald trump, she knows the type and that, you know, that signals, i think to everybody that she is -- she is really going to lean into her background and be able to talk

about donald trump in a way that is unabashed, unafraid and you heard a lot of that already in a lot of the speeches that we heard already. so i think having the kind of convention that we had allows everybody to stay laser focused on the final goal here. >> your thoughts on governor walz. it was his national introduction in many ways last night. what do you think he brings to the ticket? >> you know, it is interesting, because i love him both as a teacher and a coach, a teacher in the sense he can take very difficult concepts, distill them and make them relatable to the average voter, which is, you know, owing to the mother who taught for 30 years. i love she did that with me and her students and i'm sure tim walz did that with his students, but also the coach, someone who is motivated. you heard him several times talk about having hope but also having a plan. that's a coach's mindset. he talked yesterday about that playbook and what happens when

you follow the playbook, that if it exists, you expect it to be followed, referring to project 2025 and the dangers of that. so i think his ability to distill really difficult concepts and talk to the average voter, especially and specifically rural voters, suburban voters, and be able to motivate the party in very simple but powerful language i think is going to be a real asset as a surrogate for kamala harris on this campaign trail. >> and erin, last night we also heard from transportation secretary pete buttigieg who was speaking in his personal capacity. he talked about his family. and having dinner with his husband and their two children. let's watch. >> it is the part of our day when politics seems the most distant. and yet the makeup of our kitchen table, the existence of my family is just one example of something that was literally impossible as recently as 25

years ago when an anxious teenager growing up in indiana wondered if he would ever find belonging in this world. >> erin, what do you make of this broader focus on families at this convention? we have seen a lot of high profile people having some pretty vulnerable moments on that stage. >> yeah, i mean, i think really the identity, the importance of identity, the idea that representation matters, that's not something that necessarily has been explicit in terms of race and gender of it all or even lgbtq+ representation which we have seen in the arena last night. there were a lot of lgbtq+ flags, even as you didn't really hear people talking about that issue, but we know that the lgbtq community is feeling under attack in this country, in this moment. so, to see that representation, to hear somebody like secretary buttigieg talking about his family, a family that is an american family quite frankly, that means something to -- and

resonates with so many of the people in this audience and the people who love them, you know, not just in this arena, but also in this untry. i think you also have on displa just a real example of a very different type of masculinity than the masculinity that you saw at the republican national convention in milwaukee. we wrote a story about this, it is up on the 19th right now, just talking about the displays of masculinity. you saw governor walz, his love for his children, his son gus, and that, you know, the exchange they were having from the stage and when he came up on the stage, that was a real moment for people. even the way that governor walz and his wife gwen talk about, you know, their struggles with fertility and their journey to parenthood. that is something that does feel very different and that is resonating with so many people in this country, because it is something that makes him relatable, it humanizes them and further introduces them to the american people.

>> erin haines, andrea mitchell, yamiche alcindor, basil smikle, thank you. as democrats try to turn the table on border security and immigration as issues former president trump heads to battleground arizona. what to expect from his event there later today. plus, nbc news learned rfk jr. will soon drop out of the race. he's expected to endorse trump. will it help or hurt trump's numbers? and congressman jim clyburn joins us next with how democrats can keep their momentum going. congressman, always a pleasure to see you. we'll chat in a minute. always e to see you we'll chat in a minute i'll tell them how liberty mutual customizes car insurance, so they only pay for what they need. got it? [squawks] did you get that? only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty,♪ ♪liberty, liberty.♪

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welcome back. tonight vice president harris will make history, becoming the first black woman, first asian american to accept a major party's presidential nomination. >> her acceptance speech comes 60 years to the day after mississippi civil rights leader fannie lou hamer delivered an iconic speech to the democratic national convention's credentials committee. >> she took the party to task for failing to support voting rights for black americans. talking about the violence she and others faced, trying to get the right to vote. >> 60 years ago today. with us now, is south carolina

democratic congressman jim clyburn. congressman, always a pleasure to see you. how do you see the significance of tonight's moment at the dnc, given that history that we just kind of highlighted today? >> well, thank you very much for having me. fannie lou hamer was an icon. i remember her very well. that was the 1964 democratic convention, atlantic city, all of the blacks were locked out of that convention, and i'm glad you are talking about that today because when you look at this convention today, you will see how this party has progressed over the years and compare what you see on the floor of the convention with what you saw on the floor in milwaukee of the republican convention and tell me which one of them looks like america. that is what this campaign is all about.

we have a party that for some strange reason is trying to revisit those bygone days. they seem to want to take us back to what it was like in 1964. in fact, a member of the republican party in the house of representatives still on the floor about three weeks ago and says i want my colleagues on the other side of the aisle to join me in going back to the 1960s with our policies here in this house of representatives. that's the mindset on the other side. we are moving forward. we are going to be informed about that history. we are going to listen to george's admonition, if you fail to learn the lessons of history, you're bound to repeat them. we have learned those lessons and that's why we have nominated kamala harris to be our standard bearer. that's why timothy walz, a guy i

know very well, will be a great partner for her. they will lay out a vision for this country's future that will not be anything like our dark past, but a bright future. that's what you're going to hear tonight and that's what this whole convention is trying to hold out to the american people. >> what do you think the vice president needs to do tonight. perhaps we haven't heard leading up to the culmination of the democratic national convention. >> well, she was a part of a tremendous foundation, a foundation for the last three and three quarters of a year, laid out for the american people through our rescue plan, through our infrastructure bill, through our chips and science act, through the inflation reduction act, the p.a.c.t. act, the civics community act, she was part of that, a very critical part of the inflation reduction act, especially that dealing with negotiating the price of

drugs for seniors and for putting a cap on insulin. she is going to say to the american people, here is what my proposals will do for you, here is what they will do for your family. and here is what they'll do for your communities. and when she does that, like my dad used to do, the father and son and the holy ghost, she'll be home free. >> congressman, how do you think the democratic party can maintain the momentum that it has had in the last month? >> i'm glad you asked that question because i think it is critical for the people of this convention and the people looking in from home to remember the atom floating around as energy in the atmosphere did not become effective as a bomb until it was harnessed. that's what we got to do when we leave this convention. we got to go back to our communities, we got to get on the ground, we got to harness

that energy. don't let it just float out there. and target it into the communities so that they will be effective as an explosion on november 5th. that's it. harness that energy. >> congressman, thank you for bringing up the importance of history, history that you lived through, but that is fundamental that all of us, regardless of how old we are, understand and know our history because we do have to learn from it. congressman, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. up next, a poignant moment at the dnc, hear the emotional plea from the parents of a hostage held in gaza for 321 days. as vice president harris plans to accept the nomination, south asian americans are having a moment in politics. we'll talk about that next. you're watching special coverage right here on msnbc.

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26 past the hour. last night at the democratic national convention there was a very poignant and sobering moment. >> john polin and rachel goldberg whose son hersh is being held hostage spoke to the crowd. >> the more than 100 people who are still being held after they

were taken during the october 7th massacre in israel. >> and they were met with these chants, you can hear, bring them home, eliciting so much emotion, not just from the parents, but everyone in that room. let's watch. >> rachel and i are comforted to be back in our sweet home, chicago. we were both born and raised here, and our families still live here. this is a political convention. but needing our only son and all of the cherished hostages home is not a political issue. it is -- it is a humanitarian issue. >> hersh, if you can hear us, we

love you. stay strong. survive. >> bring him home! >> hold him in our hearts. >> hope must remain. up next, the battle over the border, donald trump heads to arizona today to tout his immigration policy. >> while speakers at the dnc try to thank the vice president as tough on the border. >> she's gone down to mexico. and worked to stop the traffickers and when the traffickers didn't stop, she put them in jail. now down in my neck of the woods, we call that fooling around and finding out. e call t around and finding out

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welcome back. today, former president donald trump will head to arizona to talk border and immigration policy while his running mate jd vance will also discuss the issue during a stop in the battleground state of george gentleman. >> this morning he responded to democratic attack is he killed the bipartisan bill at the border for political gain. >> i think they respect my opinion. it was a terrible bill. more importantly, if they want to fix the border, they don't need a bill. the president of the united states, which is what i did, i didn't have a bill to close the border. i closed the border.

i had the safest border. >> joining us now nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, and michael steele, former republican national committee chair and co-host of the weekend, right here on msnbc. so, vaughn, what can we expect today from the trump campaign? >> i just want to note, if reference to the comments that donald trump made on "fox and friends," he bragged about killing the bill, he said, please blame it on me, please. he's going to be going down to the u.s.-mexico border in arizona. he criticized the democratic ticket and democratic party for what he says is a lack of emphasis or focus on stopping the number of migrants that have come into the united states. of course, the number of border encounters from the border patrol has dropped in recent months since executive orders were put into action by a president biden after the

collapse of that bipartisan senate border security bill was killed in large part due to the influence of donald trump. but for him, he is going to continue to focus on this issue. he just the other day commented that back in 2018 he came up with the word caravan in his own terminology. of course, we saw him in 2018, in 2020, and, of course, for the first time in 2016 really use immigration as a key use of political weapon for to try to win over voters. >> you know, michael, i want to talk to you about that, because in the world of politics, it has been on all sides a useful tool to be able to talk about immigration, not do anything about immigration. there could be attempts at immigration, but to actually get it done is very difficult. this border bill, which is used by both sides as a be all, do all things -- >> except for it was republicans who kiboshed it. >> yes, no, it was trump who

specifically said do not do it and vaughn brought it up, please blame it on me. so, my question is politically this is an issue that has benefited the former president. how do democrats counter that? >> i think the way they counter it is to start with where you both just left off, blame it on me. okay. you're the reason why we don't have a border bill. you're the reason why over the four years you were president, you just couldn't act on your own, you couldn't get the wall built because you need congress to fund the wall and all these other parts to work and none of that fell into place. so that's part one. the part two, though, i think at this point is for kamala harris and walz to lean into what has not happened under their watch. i think you got to be honest at the outset to say, look, yeah, we had fits and starts at the border, but now here's the plan

going forward. this is what i want to -- everyone used the -- on day one, i'm going to -- it is such a trite comment in politics running for the presidency. but i think in this instance, she can lay out with -- through executive orders and saying with the democratic congress, with hakeem jeffries, as speaker, and, you know, schumer remaining as majority leader on day one these are the steps we're going to take to deal with dreamers, to deal with border security, to deal with personnel on the border. and begin to make the american people feel that there is a plan because right now that's why this issue sort of lingers, because folks don't feel there is a plan, particularly since the border bill blew up by -- was blown up by donald trump. >> we're seeing some live pictures right now of trump's running mate jd vance making a quick stop as both have been on the road this week hitting different swing states as the democrats are at the big convention, their national convention in chicago. and, vaughn, we have seen the

energy there in chicago, we have seen the polling showing momentum surrounding the democratic ticket right now. i'm just curious what are trump's events like right now and how do they compare to what maybe he's had in the past? >> i think that the events if we will, whether it be the actual democratic national convention, or if we just take as an example trump's rally yesterday in ashborough, north carolina, i think they're very representative of the electorate and why this is an excessively close race here. when you look at the crowd, again, just take north carolina yesterday, as an example, this is a rural part of north carolina outside of greensboro. this is a county that he rallied in, that he won in 2020 by 55 percentage points. when you look at the 2020 electorate, 44% of the overall american electorate were noncollege educated white americans. and when you look at the reality of some of these numbers, two-thirds of that demographic

specifically wins in 2020 for donald trump. meaning that democrats have to build a very broad coalition, and so for donald trump, well, he wants to go and win over a few more black voters, a few more latino voters. for him, such a major part of his ability to win in battleground states like north carolina is galvanizing that very demographic, white voters, but also the noncollege educated white voters that increasingly went for him in 2020 in order to juice their support and get them to ensure that they turn out in two months from now. >> but, vaughn, i want to -- i'm really curious about what the vibe has been like at his rallies. does he have the same kind of enthusiasm that he's had in the past? >> and to answer that question, over the last week, i think that we have been paying a lot of attention to that. he had an event in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania, a week ago that i was at and i don't think there

was quite of same energy that we're used to. but there was still 9,000 people. he's still drawing massive crowds. yesterday, i would guess anywhere from 10,000 or more people attempted to come to that rally there in north carolina. but i think that part of how donald trump campaigns is also reflected when he asks the crowd yesterday, he almost mocked saying his allies and advisers had urged him to not throw out personal attacks, right, and focus on policy, and he said it in a mocking way and he surveyed the crowd and said, do you guys want me to stop personal attacks? and the crowd shouted no. he goes, who here wants know stop personal attacks and it was dead silent. for donald trump, such a key part of his 2016 and 2020 bids in the way he's able to galvanize his base of support is that sort of politics, personal attacks and i think yesterday was an example of that and he is not naive to where his going to utilize his time and the way he's going to speak out on the

campaign trail. there is little reason to believe he's going to try to win over your suburban moderates outside of trying to focus on immigration and other issues like that. >> and so, michael, you know, and former president obama kind of underlined that trump seems to have an obsession with crowd size and the whole question is, you win an election by bringing in more people rather than less. >> right. and, you know, to vaughn's excellent reporting there, the reality for donald trump is the frustration of his campaign team. he is not expanding his base vote. so, yeah, you're going to a county where you want 55%, by 55% of the vote the last time, why are you there? why are you in a deeply red part of the country? what donald trump needs to do and particularly given now that the race has shifted so fundamentally beneath his feet and you've seen the campaign and his own personal inability to grapple with the fact that he's

going to be standing on a stage in about three weeks against a formidable prosecutor who will prosecute the case against her, him, who happens to be an african american woman and he is shown and demonstrated he has no capacity to deal with that. and so he's going to his safe space, he's going to a place where he can ask dumb questions and get dumb responses because the reality of it is he doesn't know how to expand beyond that and that's the problem his campaign will face starting labor day. >> okay, 75 days now until election day. going to be a race all the way, i have a feeling. thank you, vaughn hillyard, michael steele, thank you. catch michael on "the weekend" every saturday and sunday morning. up next, why south asian american voters could have a major impact on this year's 2024 election. you're watching special coverage on msnbc. election you're watching special coverage on msnbc complete nutrition yo, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now...

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>> this is an extremely important voting bloc. indian americans make up the largest sub group when we talk about asian american voters and one thing i can tell you after speaking to indian american voters here in battleground georgia, they're extremely enthusiastic about this election cycle. tonight kamala harris is set to make history, the first black and south asian woman to accept her party's nomination for president. >> my mother raised us to be proud, strong, black women. and she raised us to know and be proud of our indian heritage. >> from harris to usha vance, wife of jd vance. >> though he's a meat and potatoes kind of guy, he adapted to my vegetarian diet, and learned to cook food for my mother. >> and earlier republican contenders vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley, indian americans are having a moment in american

politics. georgia voter jasmine chabra. >> i felt a sudden surge. it is extraordinary to think she is a south asian woman, a woman of color. >> reporter: energized by the candidate and her stance on women's equity. >> i'm going to do whatever i possibly can to be part of this historic movement. >> reporter: now she's phone banking, writing postcards and getting her 11-year-old daughter ana in on the grassroots action. >> georgia is a swing state and i wanted to get involved. >> reporter: they are part of a newly fired up $300,000 from 9,000 attendees according to organizers. leaders say they have seen a surge of volunteer sign-ups and donations, along with memes and merchandise touting lotus for

potus. her name means lotus. this energy matters. especially in battleground states like georgia. >> in a close race, asian americans and indian americans can make a difference, they are poised to have a big impact on 2024. >> reporter: in georgia, the asian american voter turnout rate has been increasing more rapidly than latino, black and white voters. according to aapi data, indian americans account for 72,000 eligible voters in a state that flipped from red to blue by just 12,000 votes in 2020. equally energized is this republican. he came from india at 19 and went from working at a grocery store to owning this shopping plaza in atlanta.

he has run for local office. >> they give us chance. >> reporter: borders is why he is fund-raising for trump. >> everybody struggling with money. >> reporter: they agree this election feels different. more asian americans are getting involved? >> more people are involved. >> it's important, very simply put, when you have south asian children and they see somebody that looks like them to be in those positions to inspire them. >> thank you so much. coming up, rfk junior appears ready to endorse donald trump. what could he be getting in return? you are watching special coverage right here on msnbc. this is clem.

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56 past the hour. >> you are looking live at the democratic national convention where we see preparations for tonight, the final night of the convention. there goes the chicks, the group that will perform later this evening. >> we are watching for an expected shakeup of the 2024 presidential race. sources tell nbc news, robert f. kennedy junior intends to end his campaign and endorse donald trump. >> joining us now is national politics reporter for "the new york times," rebecca davis o'brien. she has been following rfk junior's campaign. good to have you with us. where do things stand? >> thanks for having me. as of this morning, we know there are plans in place for robert f. kennedy junior to drop out of the race at an event in arizona on friday and endorse former president trump. while people close to him have publicly and privately reminded me that things could still

change, he is known to be a -- he makes up his own mind. there are conversations behind the scenes to urge him against an endorsement of mr. trump. he currently plans to follow through with that. >> trump has talked about whether he would give rfk junior a role in a potential trump administration. listen to this. >> would you also consider putting him in the administration? >> you are asking me a very unusual question. i haven't been asked that question yet. i like him a lot. i respect him a lot. i probably would if something like that would happen. >> where would you think rfk junior fit into a possible trump administration? >> we know that he has had -- he and some of his closest advisors and aides have spoken with people in the trump camp about a possible role in health and human services, either as a

formal cabinet post or in an advisory guru way. this is probably the most advanced of the subjects. this has been a conversation going on for weeks. i think -- sorry. you can hear the rehearsal behind me. probably something close to a vaccine and public health issues. >> interesting, vaccines, given his conspiracy theory history there. we followed some eye-popping headlines about rfk junior throughout his campaign from learning doctors found a dead worm in his brain to his admission that he once dumbed a dead bear carcass in central park. is there any down side to having someone with such a bizarre campaign join the trump-vance ticket when democrats have been trying to paint them as weird? do you expect trump to welcome him in with open arms? >> i'm not an expert on the trump campaign or how they are

thinking about this. kennedy has been able to draw headlines, good and bad, mostly bizarre over the last few months. i think there's definitely a risk of more unexpected surprises coming up. but i think from the trump administration's perspective, or the trump campaign's perspective, sorry, he poses a great -- kennedy seems to draw a fair number of supporters from trump. there's overlap in potential voters. you can hear the rehearsals going on behind me. >> thank you so much for being with us. really appreciate it. we are listening in. >> those are just rehearsals for the national anthem later this evening. thank you for joining us on this busy thursday morning. >> thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more coverage of the dnc from chicago right now.