♪♪ hello, i'm chris jansing, this is the final day of the democratic national convention in chicago. for kamala harris, it has all been leading up to this, from when she was first elected as district attorney in her home state of california, in 20 years onto that stage tonight. seizing the mantle as her party's presidential nominee after a 33-day political sprint that's rewritten this race and

potentially recast the fate of the democratic party. the question now, can the woman bill clinton said would be the president of joy deliver on the biggest night of her life. plus, is it possible to redefine donald trump, one of the best known politicians in modern times. the mix of humor, sarcasm, and social media jabs democrats are using to deflate the man once known as dangerous donald. and putting the border battle back on the table. the convention proving democrats are no longer shying away from talking about immigration, how they're planning to flip the script on republicans and turn one of their greatest weaknesses into a winning issue. so we've got a lot to get to, but we start with the name kamala harris being etched into the history books tonight, the first black and asian woman to be a major party nominee. it's pretty empty right now here at the united center, but it will be absolutely packed to the rafters tonight. the culmination of her

astonishing rise to the top of the ticket and the dramatic transformation of her party in just over a month, all week long democrats have hammered a message of hope and joy appealing to voters they believe are ready to turn the page on donald trump's darker world view. in a historically brief campaign, harris to want faces both a defining moment and a golden opportunity to convince millions of voters both that she has the right message and that she is the right messenger. nbc news has learned she spent the last two weeks crafting her speech and that she's leaning heavily on her own instincts, and she's going to explain exactly how she would govern. on that stage behind me last night, tim walz, her choice for number two started the job. >> so here this is the part clip and save it and send it to your undecided relatives so they know, if your middle class family or a family trying to get into the middle class, kamala harris is going to cut your

taxes. if you're getting squeezed by prescription drug prices, kamala harris is going to take on big pharma. if you're hoping to buy a home, kamala harris is going to help make it more affordable. and no matter who you are, kamala harris is going to stand up and fight for your freedom to live the life that you want to lead. >> with me here in chicago, nbc senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. juanita tolliver host of crooked media's what a day podcast, and "washington post" columnist eugene robinson, both juanita and eugene are msnbc political analysts. it's fun to be here with all of you, final day. >> finally. >> we made it. >> huge night. kamala harris has been working on this speech for a while, weeks. we heard she even practiced it in multiple time zones. >> the setup wherever she has been in order to do that prep work. this is one of those moments

where you don't have to tell anybody that this is the biggest night of your life, and you want to be comfortable, prepared, and for her, i think what we're learning from aides is she wants to feel like she's doing her own gut check. does the language reflect her, does it feel authentic, to not be overly managed. she is someone who as the sitting vice president often has to put aside some of her views to support president biden. this is a moment where she doesn't have to do that. so it can reflect that. part of it, what we're told is expect her to make the case that even in her improbable rise to this moment that she has the qualifications and the vision to do this job. >> so eugene, what do you think americans want to know about her, about her policies? what's her job tonight? >> well, that's a good question because being vice president, as you know, is kind of like being in witness protection, you know. that's your job is to kind of disappear and not to be out front and not to be -- certainly

not to be leading on policy. so i think people will want to hear, okay, well, what's different? you know, what is your thing? what are your issues? what are your passions as opposed to those of president biden? because that has been the agenda. >> how specific does she get? >> well, in my opinion not all that specific. you know, in other words, i think if she gets way deep in the weeds, i think she kind of loses some of the audience and loses some of the opportunity. you know, it's not only what you tell people and you do have to be specific to a point, but it's also how you make people feel and how they react to you. that's in many ways what this -- the first three nights of this convention have been about, and i think the fourth night will probably follow suit. >> i did a radio interview today, and the question i got asked is do you think it feels

in the room the same way it feels at home. that's the job too, right? you're preaching to the converted here. you've got to reach the folks back home. i think tim walz who had the unenviable job of following oprah winfrey and bill clinton managed to do it in a way that a lot of people are remarking on this morning and a lot of it was emotional. i want to play a little bit of that. >> it took gwen and i years, but we had access to fertility treatments and when our daughter was born, we named her hope. [ cheers and applause ] >> hope, gus, and gwen, you are my entire world, and i love you. [ cheers and applause ] i'm letting you in on how we started a family because this is a big part about what this election is about, freedom.

>> freedom, juanita, joy, big part of this campaign. >> yes. >> if those are your messages, what do you make of that messenger? >> i think tim walz has been perfection in also being human. he's bringing a level of humanity to politics i don't think a lot of people have seen in recent years, and he's talking about his personal story. we see his family supporting him, we also saw vice president harris's nieces and nephews on stage supporting her saying really emphasizing how present she is in their lives. that humanity is going to resonate at home to your question about reaching individuals, reaching voters who aren't in this roam. that's something they can relate to. my 17-year-old niece who just turned 18, every time she tells me she's proud of me, that sparks something inside me that i know a lot of viewers are going to be able to relate to. i expect to see more and more family time. that's something we don't see from republicans. we don't see melania trump out

there. we don't see a lot of that type of bonding, and we especially don't see it from j.d. vance when he's spending time calling women childless cat ladies as oprah winfrey pointed out. the reality is that humanity's going to continue to resonate with voters. >> i think the way tim walz kind of seems sometimes that what's happening is happening, his family definitely looked that way last night, but it's interesting to me the way that the democrats have flipped sort of the script. they're laying claim to the things that republicans have long said were theirs. yesterday we talked about the images of family and more broadly presenting, the democrats believe it or not as the pro-family party. but also, those values that republicans always claim, freedom, liberty. how important is that and can they be successful in using it to lay claim to moderate voters and even some republicans? >> i think they certainly are, i think, communicating with those voters, and they may attract some of those voters who

otherwise would have gone to republicans. that word freedom is, i think, the most -- if there's one word that democrats want everyone to take away from this convention, i think it would be that word freedom, and i think -- >> when they did the rally in minneapolis, all you saw was freedom, freedom, freedom was the backdrop. >> they want to own the concept of freedom, define it in a way that is relatable, not in the big picture historic documents of our nation, but in everyday lives. what does it mean to have freedom in your life? >> exactly, exactly, and they're defining it in terms as an umbrella term for a lot of democratic issues, for reproductive rights and so forth, and so i think, you know, we'll probably hit more of that, but we certainly heard it from tim walz last night. and look at him, look at his image. he's a small town football coach. i mean, this is -- you know, you're talking to heartland

america through a guy from heartland america. >> in 15 minutes. he did it in 15 minutes. >> 15 minutes which i love, i think we all love, as we've heard the complaints about time. >> teachers keep time. >> they also know how long you can hold someone's attention. >> yes, that's right. he's smart, and i think the one thing i'd like to add on freedom is that they're presenting it as a concept of no fear. no matter what community you're a part of, no fear as a family looking to use reproductive support and treatments to start a family, freedom in terms of being able to access abortion care, freedom in terms of being able to buy your first home. i think democrats are very smart and really framing this about eliminating fears and responding to fears of voters. >> on tuesday it was the obamas going after donald trump. last night a lot of people were going after donald trump. i want to play a few clips. >> he's still dividing. he's still blaming. he's still belittling other people. he creates chaos and then he sort of curates it as if it were

precious art. >> donald trump is like an old boyfriend who you broke up with, but he just won't go away. [ laughter ] he has spent the last four years spinning the block trying to get back into a relationship with the american people. bro, we broke up with you for a reason. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm going to go out on a limb and say that is the lived experience of 50% of the population. >> oh, my gosh. >> how much do you think kamala harris should talk about donald trump tonight and how? >> in contrast to her vision, right? i think that's something that the democrats have done explicitly well. kenan thompson did it really well when he brought out the project 2025 book. people were able to put a face to the individuals that would be impacted by the harmful policies.

i think the only time vice president should mention trump is when she's saying i'm going to expand the child tax credit. he wants kids to go hungry. i'm going to fight to protect abortion rights and i'm going to work with a congress that can codify this at a national level where we know republicans are going to continue those attacks as well. that's the only time his name should come up. otherwise i need to hear about the substance of her record. i need to hear about her admiration and appreciation for joe biden and her vision for the future and all the freedoms it encompasses. >> there are a lot of american voters who don't really know who really kamala harris is, so that's got to be a big part of it. >> this is for a lot of voters, this is a first impression. you get one shot at that. >> kelly o'donnell, juanita tolliver, eugene robinson, thank you all so much. coming up in 90 seconds, the knives are out. has the democratic party finally found a way to redefine donald trump? >> you know, when i was teaching every year, we'd elect a student body president, and you know what? those teenagers could teach

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♪♪ welcome back to chicago. when joe biden endorsed kamala harris less than a month ago, the concern was that he might be able to define her before she could define herself. well, now the party and the campaign are attempting something pretty audacious. take one of the best known politicians in history, donald trump, and according to "the new york times" redefine him as a self-interested fraud who only cares about his billionaire friends and himself. we heard it last night from the stage here in the united center, from people who know him as a businessman, a tv star, and an opposing politician. >> two days ago i turned 78, the oldest man in my family, and the only personal vanity i want to assert is i'm still younger than donald trump. >> these are complicated times,

people, and they require adult conversation. >> donald trump rants about law and order as if he wasn't a convicted criminal running against a prosecutor. >> i joined the army when i was 17. hi to ask my mom to sign the paperwork for me because i don't have bone spurs. >> joining me now is nbc's chief washington correspondent andrea mitchell, ashley parker, "washington post" senior national political correspondent, and an msnbc political analyst, and doug fer nell, democratic strategist, former adviser for wes moore for governor and former adviser for the dnc. it's great to have all of you here. doug, you were actually the lead media consultant for the run of governor moore, so i watched him with particular interest last night knowing he was coming on. i would say he gave a sharp-edged reminder about donald trump's lack of military service, but i wonder big

picture what you make of how this reenergized democratic party is trying to repaint donald trump. >> yeah, i think one of the challenges democrats have had with former president trump is that there's so many shiny objects around him, and if you go after a million different things nothing sticks, and i think what they've settled on is this character attack that ties who donald trump is and has been with the people he would fight for when he goes back to the white house, right? and so you're going to hear a lot about a self-interested person who only cares about himself and only making policy and doing things for his rich friends and his own interests. and i think these contrasts only work well if it fits the opponent who donald trump is running against, and you've got with kamala harris someone who's dedicated her entire life to service and fighting for those underdogs and the people who don't have a voice. so the contrast works exceptionally well by the harris campaign because it's like a mirror image of who donald trump

is, and i think that's why they are leaning so heavily into this. i don't even think it's a redefinition. it is lifting up this aspect of donald trump's personality, character, history, in a way that is most advantageous for the party. >> i think for sure they're changing the way they approach him, right? 2016, we were both on the campaign trail, but i was with jeb bush, gone. then i was with ben carson, gone. then ted cruz, gone. it really was -- they didn't know what to do. i know you spoke to nancy pelosi last hour about the calculus at the highest levels of the track party. how do you deal with donald trump. what did she tell you? >> she said that you've got to organize. i mean, she's talking about, first of all, the house and trying to hold the senate but the house. i mean, that was part of her motivation for the switch from biden to kamala harris. the recognition in the caucus that they were not going to win. they would lose the white house, the house, and the senate and at

this point in her career, she always wants to win. win, win, win, but this is how she framed how to counteract donald trump. >> this is not going to be easy. the other side will misrepresent, mischaracterize and the rest as they do. we've only just begun. this is one good day in front of another, own the ground in our mobilization. message with unity, not menace. we don't agonize. we organize. >> i mean, she was -- is the best vote counter. she never went to the floor if she didn't think she had the votes, and this is the way she plays it on the national stage, and she, by the way, has still not talked to joe biden, and it's up to him to accept a call from her. so the tension's there, but as john allen, my colleague, and natasha ka recchi are reporting online right now, nancy pelosi is on the inner circle the

villain of this, it's very painful to her is the way their reporting holds, but she's a hero on the floor because of what is viewed as a successful transition. >> yeah, and a very successful with one day left to go or one night left to go, very successful convention. ashley, i think a lot of people -- and i've had these conversations on the floor. they've watched this almost in wonder for what, you know, nine years they were waiting for somebody to figure out what to do about donald trump, even though obviously joe biden won, he still took up so much oxygen. he still got so much of the attention. it seems like the fear is gone, the knives are out. what happened? >> well, i also for all of these years i started covering donald trump in 2015, and i would ask his opponents, democratic, republican, what attack works against him? what message works against him? and the answer was often we don't know what's effective. even in 2016 when voters went to the polls, whether they liked him on didn't like him, they

knew who donald trump was. you knew the access hollywood tape was out, the racist, sexist, misogynistic comments were out. what's fascinating now, as doug was saying, it is still sort of a character attack, which the conventional wisdom is it didn't work. they're making it less about donald trump and more about the actual voter, right? and this idea that he won't fight for you and he only cares about himself. that is one of the few things they found is effective. it goes back to bill clinton's line last night, right? don't count the lies. count the eyes. they're sort of minimizing him. you remember early on, you were covering jeb bush, i was covering jeb bush. i remember are split screen of an empty trump podium, and jeb bush giving a policy speech because trump was so exciting and fresh no one knew what he was going to do. now the message we're hearing is yeah, we know he makes offensive comments to black women and they get under his skin. it's stale, it's boring. we're going to do our own thing,

and that does seem to be resonating right now. >> and we're not going to give it oxygen. the flip side of this obviously and this is something you do very well, doug, is defining kamala harris. she's going to have a big tunt opportunity tonight. we always talk about how big the convention speech is. reality is, this will be a first introduction for a lot of people. probably her biggest chance except for the debates, but her only solo chance. how does she maximize it? >> i think she has three objectives. the first is she's got to tell her story. we shouldn't assume people know who kamala harris is. they don't know the full story. then she's got to contrast her visions with donald trump, and then lastly, she's got to connect everything back to the voters so that they understand what's in it for them. when voters go to the ballot box, it is always about what's in it for me and my family, and so that is going to be an important thing. everyone talks about laying out her vision.

she has to connect with voters, and i think that is going to be her biggest challenge tonight, and if she can do that, it's going to go a long way towards resetting this race, if it hasn't already been reset. >> doug, ashley, andrea, it has been a convention unlike any other. i think we can all agree on that. thank you for coming by. still ahead, the immigration shift and how the democratic party is changing its strategy on handling the border. we've got that next. ext. (restaurant noise) allison! (restaurant noise) ♪♪ [announcer] introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. she thinks her flaky, gray patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. over here! otezla can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required.

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we're witnessing yet another pretty dramatic shift among democrats, the party is changing its strategy on immigration. go longer treading lightly on an issue that has strongly favored donald trump, the harris campaign has gone on offense with speaker after speaker at the dnc attacking trump on the border and blaming him for tanking a bipartisan bill to fix it. i talked to veronica escobar who represents the texas border town of el paso and is a co-chair of the convention. >> to have a bunch of people speaking on the stage of the democratic convention about immigration and particularly about donald trump pushing against bipartisan legislation is a massive change. >> yeah. >> i know that chris murphy who was one of the cosponsors of that bipartisan bill has been

pushing the campaign to say we have to go on offense. will that make all the difference? and do you agree with him that not to go on offense threatens the campaign, the harris campaign? >> i have long told my own party we need to lean in on immigration. we need to share with american voters that we are the party of solutions and that we're the big tent party, and we're the party that's willing to compromise. in fact, if you look at efforts to address imgreat lakes and the border over the last decade, there have been three serious efforts, 2013, 2018, and obviously the bipartisan senate bill from this year. each one of those three opportunities for congress it's been republicans who have either obstructed a solution or run away from a solution. so we've got to lean into that. we've got to remind the american people that that's who they are, that they exploit the situation. they don't want to work for the

american people. >> here with me now is julian castro, former hud secretary, and an msnbc political analyst. talk about this idea of exploiting it, of changing the strategy. she really has been talking to democrats and saying we need to get ahead of this. that's what chris murphy's point was. do you agree? >> i do. i've said also and representative escobar i know has been saying this for a long time, look, you can't be back peddling all the time. you can't always just be playing defense on immigration. you need to show people that democrats have a strong vision and a plan to both maintain an orderly border and then also ensure that we have a good legal immigration system, and have r -- very importantly, i think this somewhat kamala harris can do is say we're going to do this and live up to our values. we're going to treat people with compassion but we're also going to have an orderly border. you can do both of those things.

that's what i think you hear the convention speakers doing. i think that's what we're going to hear, if she addresses it tonight, vice president harris doing. they also have the wind at their back. border encounters are at a three-year low. they're at a lower point right now than when trump was in office. the vice president has worked very well to try and address the root causes of migration so that people can find safety and opportunity at home instead of having to try and find it in the united states. >> obviously the campaign on the other side, donald trump believes this is a winning issue for them. i want to bring in nbc's dasha burns who's reporting where trump is going to be visiting today. so what can you tell us about the campaign's approach now to this issue? >> reporter: well, look, chris, this is still an area where they feel they have an vague. advantage. this is one of the early attacks they leveled against vice president kamala harris. and it's one they continue hitting hard because they feel like it sticks. you'll notice that all this

week, chris, trump has been doing these very issue specific events. the backdrops have not been his typical standard rally. it's been at a manufacturing plant, a police station, now here at the southern border, and he's going to talk about his policy here from what we hear from the campaign. of course you know with the former president, sometimes it's policy. sometimes it's personal attacks. sometimes it's a little bit of both. but when it comes to the border, this is what he's laid out. he wants to finish the border wall. he wants to reinstate the remain in mexico policy. reinstate and expand the travel balance. use the aliens enemy act to detain and deport non-citizens including sending a large deportation operation into states all across the u.s., potentially using the national guard to do that, moving troops to the southern border. shifting federal law enforcement likefbi, like the dea to focus on the issue of immigration. we're likely to hear some of

that. we're also rr likely to hear them go after harris on this issue. as he's been trying to do all week, try to tie harris directly to president biden and the immigration crisis that we've seen under his administration to try to put those two really together and hammer home his very staunch stance on the issue, chris. >> dasha burns, thank you for that. look, you know, mr. secretary, how successful he's been. you look at the polls, and you see this is one of the areas where kamala harris really is far behind. why isn't what you say are the facts, right, and what she has said, look at the numbers, look at what we've done, why is that not resonating? is it the wrong messaging? >> no, i think, look, this is something -- this is a trick that donald trump has perfected for almost a decade, right? he plays on people's fears. he exaggerates, lies, all of the things that come with donald trump, but i think kamala harris has an opportunity to use her background, for instance, as an

attorney general, somebody who went after human traffickers, tried to stop fentanyl from coming across the border. in different ways addressed the issue, looked for solutions. was part of addressing the problem. she has that background. she's put it out there. they've spent money on ads, have the resources to continue to do that. so i think that what you're going to see in the next two months is that gap closed in terms of people's confidence on who can do a good job here. she has to also continue to point out his history. people don't agree with family separation. they don't agree with the cruelty that we saw during the trump years. they want an orderly border. they want folks, of course, to be able to seek asylum in a proper way and seek citizenship in a proper way, but they don't agree with treating them without any compassion. they don't agree with trump's overkill, and i think she has to do both of those things. point out how we can be effective at the border, but

also make sure that we live up to our values. >> we're watching the door of the plane, what he calls trump force one, donald trump is going to be getting off that plane in sierra vista, arizona, on his way to the event where dasha was. i want to ask you about compassion. we did hear last night from a couple of democrats about a more humane view of immigration. let me play some of that. >> soon and very soon we're going to be teaching our daughters and sons about how this child of an indian mother and a jamaican father, two idealistic energetic immigrants, immigrants, how this child grew up to become the 47th president of the united states! [ cheers and applause ] that is the best of america.

>> usa! >> and i'm asking that you join us in the work because making america great doesn't mean telling people you're not wanted. >> that's a contrast from the rnc. people were holding signs that said mass deportation now. but i wonder if you think it's tricky in some ways for kamala harris because obviously the democrats to want show and they believe you can see that they value diversity, that migrants should be treated humanely, but they also are a plan for reform, that they also have a plan for border security. >> and that was laid out in that bipartisan bill. i think she needs to continue to hammer away on donald trump. look, you and the republicans had an opportunity to fix this, according to your own definition

of fixing it. it was one of the most conservative republicans who helped negotiate that legislation that would have addressed issues at the border, and donald trump spike that had because he didn't think it was in his campaign's best interests. he thought it would make it harder for him to get elected if we solved anything. i'm sure she's going to continue to point that out. they should point that out every way they can, digital, radio, tv, everything, direct mail, and at the same time those storys that you heard from oprah, from wes moore, vice president harris's story speaks to the immigrant american dream story, and you have to continue to tell that story. that's a story that touches people from different places all over the world, people that have been here, you know, ten years. people that have been here ten months. people that have been here ten generations, and of every skin color and every background in every state of our country, that's a very powerful story. we can't give up on that truth, and so i was happy to hear that

last night from the stage. >> secretary julian castro, it's always good to see you, and i appreciate you coming on the show. >> good to be here. >> thank you. coming up, south asian voters having a major moment right now in battleground georgia. what's getting them so fired up? we're live in atlanta after this. you're watching "chris jansing reports" live from chicago only on msnbc. chicago only on msnbc when bad allergies hit, trust claritin to keep you in the game. (♪♪) nothing is proven more effective for 24-hour, non-drowsy allergy relief in 1 pill. live claritin clear. (♪♪) did you know... 80% of women are struggling with hair damage? just like i was. dryness and frizz could be damaged hair that can't retain moisture. new pantene miracle rescue deep conditioner, with first-of-its-kind melting pro-v pearls... locks in moisture to repair 6 months of damage in one wash, without weigh down. guaranteed or your money back!

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so we've got a live picture for you. this is the former president of the united states. he's just arrived in arizona. he's going to an event there. they are really going to fight hard against what we've seen here at the dnc, which is to flip the script on immigration. we will follow what the former president is doing. when kamala harris here accepts her party's nomination tonight, she is going to make history as the first south asian american to do so, and that could have an impact in the battleground state of georgia where asian american voters are a rapidly growing part of the electorate. nbc's priya sridhar joins me from atlanta. what did they tell you, priya? >> reporter: hey, chris, yeah, indian americans are an extremely important voting block. they're the biggest subgroup when we talk about asian american voters. the second largest immigrant group in the united states behind mexicans. they told me they're extremely enthusiastic about this election

cycle. tonight kamala harris is set to make history, the first black and south asian woman to accept her party's nomination for president. >> my mother raised us to be proud, strong black women, and she raised us to know and be proud of our indian heritage. >> from harris to usha vance, wife of republican vice presidential candidate, j.d. vance. >> although he's a meat and potatoes kind of guy, he adapted to my vegetarian diet and learned to cook food from my mother. >> reporter: and earlier republican contenders, vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley, indian americans are having a moment in american politics. georgia voters jasmina chavra couldn't be more excited about harris? the minute that vp harris was nominated, i felt a sudden surge. it was extraordinary to think that she is a south asian woman, a woman of color.

>> reporter: energized both by the candidate and her stance on women's rights and equity. >> i'm going to spend the next 90 plus days doing whatever it is that i possibly can to be part of this historic movement. >> reporter: now she's phone banking, writing postcards, and even getting her 11-year-old daughter anya in on the grass roots action. >> georgia's a swing state and i just really wanted to get involved. >> reporter: they're part of a newly fired up indian american electorate. a recent southeast asian women for harris zoom call raised $300,000 from 9,000 attendees according to organizers. in georgia, the asian american voter turnout rate has been increasing more rapidly than latino, black, and white voters. according to aapi data, indian americans account for 72,000 eligible voters. in a state that flipped from red to blue by just 12,000 votes in 2020. equally energized is republican

karthik bod, bud immigrated from india in 2019 and went from working at a grocery store to owning this shopping plaza in suburban atlanta. he's even run for local office. he says issues like the border and economy not identity are why he's fund-raising for trump. >> mostly my asian community owns the small businesses. everybody struggling with the money. >> reporter: one thing they agree on, this election feels different. >> so more asian americans are getting involved. >> yeah, more people are involved. >> i think it's important very simply put, when you have south asian children and they see somebody that looks like them to be in those positions, to inspire them. >> reporter: priya sridhar, nbc news. and a 2024 study conducted by aapi data found that 55% of

indian americans identify as democrats, 25% identify as republicans, and 15% identify as independents. chris. >> so at least 15% i'm sure the harris campaign is looking at and saying, oh, those are the folks we might be able to get. that was fascinating. thank you for that. gen z's influence looms large at this week's dnc with gun violence, a defining issue for their generation, set to come front and center tonight. march for our lives cofounder david hogg will join me. and in our next hour, the dnc's oldest delegate squeezed me into her very busy schedule to talk life, politics, and also give some advice to the youth. >> you're the oldest delegate. if you had advice for a young delegate who wants to get into politics, what would you tell them? >> get involved. people are kind and i'm encouraging the youth to do it.

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tonight, victims of gun violence will be on stage at the dnc including former congresswoman gabby giffords. that has long be a major issue and major source of frustration for democrats. it's deeply important to many gen z voters because their generation has lived it firsthand. "the washington post" says at least 378,000 students have personally experienced gun violence in the estimated 413 school shootings since columbine. harris's running mate tim walz said this is a fight for freedom. >> your kids' freedom to go to school without worrying about being shot dead in the hall. [ cheers and applause ] >> look, i know guns. i'm a veteran.

i'm a hunter. and i was a better shot than most republicans in congress, and i got the trophies to prove it. but i'm also a dad. i believe in the second amendment. but i also believe our first responsibility is to keep our kids safe. >> joining me now is the president of leaders we deserve, and cofounder of march for our lives, david hogg, a survivor of the parkland school shooting. good to see you here. >> good to see you too. >> i was thinking about how at the michigan state university shooting, one of the things that was a gut punch, honestly, is that many of them had already experienced a school shooting. some of them at oxford. some of them at sandy hook. what is the level of awareness and commitment from your generation, that might be different than an older generation. >> you know, i think that there's a lot of parallels between our generation, you

know, and president biden's generation, for example, in that president biden's generation, they didn't go through school shooter drills but they went through nuclear bomb drills but they went on to pass the largest arms reduction treaties ever in human history, and i think for my generation, we feel that unique anxiety, right, and that's why we're seeing incredible young people and advocates against gun violence, congressman max well frost, who worked at march for our lives prior to running for office. running to win to represent our generation. we uniquely feel that anxiety, being told by the government is the best we can do is tell you how to hide under your desk better. kids' biggest stress should be how to pass their math test and not how to survive math class literally. >> tim walz said the parkland shooting changed how he thought about everything. you heard what he has to say last night. he is an messenger for this

cause? >> 100%. he's somebody that everybody knows a version of in their life, and they love him, and i think what people want to hear is they just want to be heard. right? even if we don't agree, and i think that's what governor walz does, having won in such a competitive district, a district, you know, for congress that donald trump won by 16 points and he still won in that race. he understands we're going to have firearms in our society. he understands as a father and gown owner, there's a responsibility that comes with that. there's no reason to fear in our communities and schools on a daily basis. >> talk about how we move this forward. honestly, after columbine, after sandy hook, after the shooting that you survived, i thought, and a lot of people thought, right, this is it. when i covered the obama white house, he said very emotionally that his biggest regret was that they were not able to pass comprehensive gun legislation.

but you stayed with it. there are people who i know from columbine, from aurora, colorado, countless, who are still fighting the fight. what's it going to take? >> what's it going to take is a generation standing up together and realizing that, you know, there was work done decades before parkland, especially by black and brown women who laid the ground work of the gun violence movement that never got the attention and resources that they deserve. it's been led by people like erica ford in new york city who has been working on this for over 20 years. pastor mike in california. we need to realize that we're always going to have disagreements, that's part of who we are as americans. we agree on what matters. nobody wants this gun violence to continue. if you don't support banning guns like the ar-15 like i do. you may support mental health

funding. we can do that, you know, through a reconciliation measure. we can do the same with research funding through congress to help get the answers on how to pass the best gun safety legislation. i want people to have a sense of hope. it's been very hard for me at times to have that. the only reason we were able to change things after parkland, we believed it was possible. people like fred gutenberg and manuel oliver showed up. homicides have been going down in the united states of this past year, we may be on track to have one of the lowest rates of gun homicide in decades. and it's make no mistake, in part because we passed the first federal gun law in 30 years after uvalde that put billions of dollars into fighting gun violence, and the office of prevention of gun violence. it's a great movement. every generation is part of it. >> you're making the most of networking in this convention. david hogg, thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you so much, and vote

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