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welcome back to the second hour of "chris jansing reports" live from the dnc in chicago. ahead for us, how do you prepare for the most important speech of your life? new reporting on how kamala harris has gone over every word, every comma, colon, everything before she closes out the dnc with a pitch for her vision of the future. a pep talk for the crowd and the country. tim walz goes full on coach, as he urges democrats to leave it all on the field with 75 days and counting. and is rfk junior about to
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shake up the race again, what we're learning about his potential plans to drop out and endorse donald trump. plus, where that third party support could go, our steve kornacki is at the big board digging into the polling. our nbc news reporters are following the latest developments. we begin with a preview of what will be a big final night at the dnc. nbc's monica alibi and kelly o'donnell are here with me. it's great to have you. we're all a flap happy. what do we know about harris's preps? because they sound intense. >> certainly. she is something who takes this kind of thing very seriously. for weeks, they were starting the work on what her vice presidential nominee draft was going to be when everything changed. they had a framework to start from, but they have to really punch that up to a level, they acknowledge, that will meet the moment and that is what she intended to do. she has been practicing all week long. they finished it earlier in the week.
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they have been doing tiny tweaks. she has been practicing in front of people like her husband, the second gentleman, getting feed back from the people she trusts the most. she's going to do a couple of things, remind the american people of her record, not just as vice president, but her earlier career days as a prosecutor, the california state attorney general, and she's going to try to tie that into what makes her qualified to now be president of the united states. speaking of presidents, she will praise president biden as a true partner. she's going to acknowledge his leadership. she's going to acknowledge the fact that this was a difficult decision for him to make but one that she feels so honored to be the beneficiary of. we have seen that come and go throughout the week. she wants to make sure that's a theme, and then she's going to talk about her life, something deeply personal to her, her relationship with her mother who passed away. she's going to lean into that, and she's going to speak to what her candidacy means, but not in an overly break-the-glass
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ceiling kind of way. it will take on the historic element that she will convey, but she's going to talk about this really in the terms of what this could mean for the country. she's going to try to frame it that way of what she could do for working families if she's elected the first woman of color president, first female president and breaking and shattering boundaries along the way with the ultimate mission of delivering, she's going to say. >> no pressure on walz last night. i said this earlier. i cannot imagine following oprah winfrey and bill clinton, but in 15 minutes, he had this crowd eating out of his hand. >> it was the gee, wow, i'm here kind of speech, and they intentionally kept it shorter. they wanted it to be really into the coach walz thing. in many ways, not only because that's an authentic part of his story but because it is something they think is very relatable. another relatable thing, we all love a little trivia. he chose the song, the walk-off song, as it's called in politics of "rocking in the free world,"
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which is neil young, from the album "freedom." what stands out is he chose it and neil young personally approved the use of it. neil young doesn't like his music used for political purposes. it was about being relatable in rural america, midwest america, places we know so well. he wanted people to get a sense of who he is. do we have a clip, i believe, a little bit of tim walz last night. >> it's the fourth quarter. we're down a field goal. but we're on offense and we've got the ball. we're driving down the field. and boy do we have the right team. we've got 76 days. that's nothing. there will be time to sleep when you're dead. we're going to leave it on the field. >> so there was also that moment where i kind of felt like i was at the high school reunion
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because i saw these guys that looked more middle age in their jerseys backstage, and of course they were some of the former student athletes of tim walz, and he had a backstage moment for them to say thank you for being here. they of course serving as real world character windows to the man they knew as coach and as teacher and giving us that sort of smalltown life, and that was one of those behind the scenes moments captured by the campaign. but that's the vibe they were going for in terms of, you know, real world dad, relatable, and of course we also heard him give policy and talk about policy in a broad sense, concepts and make the case for kamala harris. they didn't have the same expectations as are resting with the current vice president tonight. >> by the way, kerry washington is doing her mic check up there. there she is. we're going to see her tonight. when i was looking at that video from last night and him hugging his football players, i was thinking, hmm, how many of the battleground states are big on high school football, and it's a
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lot. >> many of them. >> and he's going to be going to some of those. >> he's going to be going to some of them. monica, kelly o'donnell, my friend. >> it's good to be with you. >> it's great to be with you both. >> let's talk about donald trump, he is traveling along arizona's southern border ahead of a possible endorsement tomorrow. dasha burns is live in arizona. talk about the reporting you have on the campaign conversations with rfk jr., what do you know? >> reporter: it could be a big day tomorrow, chris. look, according to two sources, we're learning that rfk jr. is planning to suspend his campaign tomorrow. he already has said he'll be making remarks in arizona tomorrow. his campaign saying he'll address this historic moment in american politics. so we're hearing he's going to be suspending his campaign and then is planning to endorse former president trump. now, our sources really emphasize that the talks are
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still ongoing. it's not fully final, but this is something that both campaigns have been signaling and teasing in the last couple of weeks, and former president trump is very much welcoming this as possibility. take a listen. >> if he endorsed me, i would be honored by it. i would be very honored by it. he really has his heart in the right place. he is a respected person. women love some of his policies and i guess some people don't like his policies, but overall, he was a democrat, i don't know what he is right now, but he was a democrat. they treated him very badly. >> reporter: now, these negotiations, this process has been brokered by donald trump jr., by tucker carlson and by super donor olid ma lek who has connections after both
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campaigns. they started ramping up more as harris got to the top of the ticket and they saw the numbers hurting trump if rfk were to stay in the race. now starting tomorrow we could see this coming to fruition, chris. >> dasha burns, thank you for that. for more now on how rfk's potential exit could impact the race, i want to bring in steve kornacki, he's at the big board. steve, you have been digging into the polling. does this news help trump or harris more? >> let's take a look. two levels in terms of what the kennedy impact has been and what it may be if this indeed happens. here's the polling before harris became the nominee, the three-way polling, an average of all the national polls, when biden was the candidate. kennedy was at just about 9% on average. trump was leading biden by 3 1/2 points before harris got in. harris gets in. now for about a month, this has been the averaging of the polling, harris, trump, kennedy,
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and the two things you see first of all, just with harris being in the report, kennedy support has dropped from 9% to 5%. harris, meanwhile, relative to biden, her support has gone up significantly. she leads trump now. that's true in the two-way and three-way. that's the question. if kennedy is out of the race, and it's a two-way race between harris and trump, what is the difference because you see in the three-way here, harris is leading in the margin there at 2.7 points. harris over trump. the average of just harris over trump, two-way race, you see it there. harris leads but it's closer. remember, it was 2.7 in the three-way. what is that? that is 1.6 in the two-way. it actually shrinks by a little bit more of a point. that's a close race. huge, remember, swing states, you talk about 10,000 vote differences, something that could easily be covered by the difference of one point.
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so in the context of a close election, that could be very significant. harris's support had risen, where was that coming from, two groups in particular here, where kennedy has lost the most ground, and harris has gained the most ground, and you see them here. latinos, kennedy has dropped by 9 points. his support has among latinos. meanwhile, harris's relative to biden has grown by 12, younger voters, those under 30. kennedy has lost eight points in the last month, harris, 17 points better than biden was doing. i think one thing you have seen in the last month was there was a more democratic friendly component of the kennedy vote, once harris replaced biden, moved to harris. what's remaining of the kennedy vote maybe is a little bit more trump friendly, and so the trump folks obviously that's their high interest in getting this done. they think that would move voters into their column. as you see, make a difference
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potentially in this race. >> steve kornacki, at the big board, thank you so much. coming up in 90 seconds, the man from hope returns to rally a crowd for kamala harris. >> take it from a man who once had the honor to be called in this convention, the man from hope, we need -- we need kamala harris, the president of joy to lead us.
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for all the joy, the excitement, even the strong tv ratings coming out of a widely praised democratic national convention, speakers are also sounding a note of caution. the race against donald trump will be a brutal slog, and victory is anything but assured. that warning comes from people who know a few things about campaigns. >> we've seen more than one election slip away from us when we thought it couldn't happen, when people got distracted by phony issues or over confident. >> the story of my life and the history of our country is that, progress is possible but not guaranteed. >> for all the incredible energy we have been able to generate
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over the last few weeks, for all the rallies and the memes, this will still be a tight race in a closely divided country. >> we cannot afford for anyone, anyone, anyone in america to sit on their hands and wait to be called. there is simply no time for that kind of foolishness. >> joining me now is nbc chief political analyst, chuck todd, zerlina maxwell, and here on set, msnbc political analyst and former democratic senator from missouri, claire mccaskill. senator, over confidence is a thing, right? we have seen it before, but there certainly is no member of the harris campaign i have talked to who are taking anything for granted, but for these folks, for the folks out in tv land, is it a worry? >> i think it is. but, chris, you know, for
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anybody who was at the javits center on the first tuesday in november in 2016, there is no chance that they're going to think it's a done deal. everyone walked through 2016 saying donald trump could never get elected, donald trump could never get elected. i said donald trump could never get elected and donald trump got elected, with that so fresh in people's minds. what i have been telling people here at the convention, the delegates, go home and go to the reddest part of your state and hang out for a little bit. and get a reality check. and then get to work. so we all keep perspective that what feels like in this arena is not what it feels like out in america. >> yeah, in fact, even though the tv ratings are good, only a fraction of people are actually watching, a fraction of voters. so peter broke wrote, as impressive as ms. harris' debut on the campaign has been and as jubilant those in chicago felt, the 2024 is still a margin of
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error affair. indeed, ms. harris has surged in polls beyond where president biden was, he is not doing as well as mr. trump as mr. clinton after her own nomination. at least not yet. should folks be worried? are you worried about over confidence? >> i'm always worried about over confidence. i'm one of the folks like claire who never a day went by in 2016 did i feel like hillary clinton had it in the bag. we have never elected a woman president in this country, but i do think that time is coming, and that's part of the feeling of joy and exuberance that you see at the united center every single night because people feel the weight of history but also the excitement that goes along with being on the precipice of making history, and i think the coupling with the hope and the joy is determination that the work necessary to make that history has to be done once
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everybody goes back to their homes and in their local communities. and i think that this election is going to be won or lost in the mobilization piece, getting everybody out to the polls and getting everybody out to the polls early. one of the big pieces in terms of the inability to win the electoral college in 2016 was not enough of the base of the democratic party turned out to early vote. get those regular democratic voters to the polls right away, and then keep organizing and run through the tape. i think that's part of the strategy in the cycle. nobody is taking anything for granted. >> so, chuck, kamala harris herself tried to tamp down some over confidence at her rally in milwaukee on tuesday because there was somebody in the audience who actually thought they had it in the bag. let me play that little clip. >> no, no, we haven't already won. 77 days of work to do, my
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friends. >> so, chuck, it's 75 days now. what is the work they need to be doing? i mean, obviously zerlina talked about go tv, but what are you hearing about what the priorities are? >> the priorities are to make sure it's never been more complicated to advertise in a single tv market anymore. you don't just buy the television advertisements, you got to also buy streaming and you've also got to buy radio. so, you know, as much money as they have raised, it's never been more expensive to advertise in pittsburgh or in milwaukee or in detroit or in las vegas. you see where i'm going here. so, you know, as much as -- and i've talked to some folks who, you know, i do think they're going to make an effort in florida, and try to expand the map a little bit, even if it just puts republicans on defense, but you don't want to do what the clinton campaign did in '16 and spend too much time worrying about landslide states when at the end of the day, it's about getting to 270. it's that balance. they have the resources to do a
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little bit of both. but, you know, look, it's what zerlina said, it's a conversation -- >> can i interrupt you for a second. >> sure. >> because i want to ask about this new reporting from "politico." they say more people donated to kamala harris's campaign in its first ten days than the entire first 15 months of joe biden's campaign, when you say they're going to have the resources is what you're saying, the question is do they employ them in the way that's smart? >> correct. and i think, you know, there's been a debate among democratic strategists. some of it is generational, which is do you emphasize turning out the base over and above persuasion or vice versa? it's both. i think everybody realizes it's a both exercise. you can't pick one or the other. if you do, you're destined to come up short. right? and so i do think she's got to work on persuasion and every day also make sure the early vote is when you concentrate on getting
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out your base. right? so it's sort of a two-pronged strategies, in many ways, because of the way early voting works. you do more base turning out in late september, early october, and then you close with more persuasion with those voters that are waiting until the very end. she's got to balance doing both, you know, the mistake, when you think about the losses of '04 and of '16, the last two presidentials that democrats lost this century, i would argue it was because they sort of dropped the ball on one of those two. not enough persuasion or not enough base turnout. you got to do both. that was what obama did well, and the coalition that biden was able to put together. >> i want to play a little bit more from bill clinton's speech. this was, i think, one of the big lines. >> what does a republican do with his voice, he mostly talks about himself, right? so the next time you hear him,
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don't count the lies. count the i's. >> claire, there's something about bill clinton for this audience for sure, but obviously there is a lot of talk about you've got to show him for who he is, that he's obsessed with himself, not you. contrast that to the campaign that's working. but some people say that's already baked in. >> yeah, i don't think anybody in america hasn't figured out that donald trump is weirdly self-obsessed. the question is, how many people are okay with that, and how many people reject that as the leader of this country, and chuck's exactly right. the hardest thing about what they have to do in the next 75 days is the number of people that have not decided is so small in so few states finding
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them with persuasion messages takes a lot. keep in mind, chris, they're spending a lot more on digital than has ever been spent in a presidential campaign. >> more than on tv. >> way more. it's going to end up being 80/20 or maybe 75/25, which is unheard of for somebody who has been around a long time. if somebody would have told me 15 years ago, that linear television would be that far behind digital ads, and the other thing they're doing, i talked to people who are in charge of the ground game, which is the base, getting the base out. they have already committed more money, the harris campaign, to getting out the base than the entire was spent in 2020. >> more than double has already been committed for getting out the base. so you're right about the resources. people are giving 5 and $10. it's driving donald trump crazy. i mean, there's several things that drive him crazy, crowd size
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obviously and the fact that he doesn't have any stars that are for him. all the stuff that doesn't matter. but it's really bugging him how much more money they're making. coming up on "chris jansing reports," she's 95 years young and more hopeful than ever. meet the dnc's oldest delegate, a remarkable woman who's been to every single convention since jimmy carter. since jimmy carter >> are you hopeful for the future? >> yes, more than ever. than evr what tractor supply customers experience is personalized service. made possible by t-mobile for business. with t-mobile's reliable 5g business internet. employees get the information they need instantly.
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there are about 4,000 delegates here at the democratic national convention. several teenagers among them, and one 95-year-old. pennsylvania's angie geoloreto is a busy woman, a committee woman if her hometown for an astounding 66 years. she's a volunteer for kamala harris. she lives alone, cleans her own house, and yet she still made time to talk to me about life, politics, and her prediction for november. >> first can i ask how old you are? >> 95. >> and how does it feel to be at yet another convention? >> to me, each one has been so exciting. but this one especially, it's
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for women. it's for everyone. it's something that i can't explain. i felt like the world was opening up to everybody, every color, every creed, and every woman. >> your first convention, i believe, was 1976. >> absolutely. >> you have a button, if i can show it, carter/mondale, 1976. and you've gone to every single -- >> every one. and i've enjoyed them all. >> is this the best, though? >> i would say so, for me, at my age, seeing a woman. but i have to say our president joe biden was special to me.
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>> you also saw hillary clinton here. >> yes. now, she should have been the president. she was great. and she'll be doing something. women today are not lackadaisical. they're ambitious, and men, open your eyes because we are impatient. >> if you had a chance to speak to kamala harris, because you've had a little bit of experience dealing with people over the years, what would be your advice to her? >> go, girl. go get em. i'm ready to go with you. >> if there's one more thing that you haven't done in politics, what might it be? >> just saying thank you.
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i just love everyone. i'm happy. >> i have a feeling everyone loves you. >> well, i sure in hell hope so. >> finally, let me ask you, what does it feel like to be the oldest delegate? >> truthfully, i feel, like, hey, i'med with crowd. some 50, some 20, but it's really encouraging to see the youth, the young people come out, and i feel like grandma moses. >> honestly, i've done thousands of interviews in my life. she's right up there. one of my favorites. her prediction, by the way, it's kamala harris's time, and she is going to win. and while angie gialoreto may have been the oldest delegate in the room, there has been a huge
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spotlight on the next generation of voters, meeting them where they are, online, and for that reason, some of the most cove ted spots were given to influencers. >> people my age are making big decisions about our lives. and we deserve a president who has our back. not some power hungry millionaire, reality tv personality who only cares about himself. >> i want to bring in digital strategist deja fox who was the first content creator to speak. she worked for kamala harris's first presidential campaign back in 2019. men, watch out, first of all. how much do we love angie? but that must have been a little bit surreal to be on that stage. this is your first convention. >> this is my first convention, and being in such an amazing spot, surrounded by other
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content creators, a historic group, right, the first ever group of content creators credentialed to cover this event was really special to me for a lot of reasons, one of which, when i worked for kamala harris at 19 years old, one of the youngest staffers in history, i did influencer and surrogate strategy, so seeing this come to life, seeing influencers and content creators playing such a huge role in being able to share a piece of my personal story, right, growing up with a single mom. something that kamala harris and i share, and becoming a first generation college graduate, was incredibly special to me, and something that truly feels like an honor. >> take us inside. it is the first time, and you guys have your own lounge, by the way, that is unbelievable. but i'll let the jealousy be a side. people don't necessarily understand exactly what it is. let's talk about, for example, tonight. kamala harris is going to speak. we'll all make the statement that we know, the biggest speech of her life, how will you decide
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what to take of it, and how to present it? >> that's an excellent question, and each of us will have to make their decision on our own, thinking about our particular audience, and i think that's what makes content creators so special. we're trusted messengers, personality first, and we have curated an audience that's so specific. for me, this is an audience i built over a decade, for confronting my arizona senator for his efforts to defund planned parenthood. my audience is an arizona audience, they are an audience that cares about reproductive rights. i have had the touch point of being a campaign staffer, and i know there's so many girls and young women who follow me that look to my career path, my personal story and see themselves in it, and tonight i really want to share this moment with them because it's historic, and we should be celebrating. >> and then we'll all get a little sleep, but it really is fascinating to watch what all of
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the uaw is now calling on the dnc to allow a palestinian american to speak on stage tonight, saying if we want the war in gaza to end, we can't put our heads in the sand or ignore the voices of the palestinian americans in the democratic party. the uncommitted delegates held sit-in outside the dnc after learning their request for a palestinian speaker was denied. the family of one israeli family brought this convention to tears last night. here was their message to democrats and their son. >> this is a political convention. but needing our only son and all of the cherished hostages home is not a political issue.
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[ cheers and applause ] it is a humanitarian issue. >> hersh, if you can hear us, we love you. stay strong. survive. >> bring them home. >> joining me now is former biden domestic policy adviser, susan rice. it's good to talk to you. i have a lot of domestic stuff i want to get to. during the obama administration when you and i first knew each other, you were national security adviser, you were u.n. ambassador, you know the complexities of the middle east. how tough a tight rope is this for kamala harris? she's still vice president, right, and she's under a lot of pressure from both sides. >> well, i think the thing that matters most to the vice president as to president biden is the actual situation in the middle east and the necessity of really finally getting to a cease fire and bringing the
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hostages home. last night was an extraordinarily powerful moment in the arena here, when we had the parents of hersh really put his experience in perspective. they are americans who are still being held hostage, along with over 100 others from other countries. it has been ten months, and more and the suffering is enormous. and the suffering of the people of gaza, the parents of hersh said last night is also something that we all have to be very deeply concerned about, and so the vice president, i think, is very much focused on how do we get a cease fire. how do we bring the hostages home, how do we get relief to the people of gaza who have been through so much, and in such a horrific last ten months. >> so now let me ask you to put your domestic policy hat on, and look, i think they've -- this campaign has put forward some things that maybe other previous campaigns would have avoided, immigration, we have seen them
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flip the script on that. tonight there is a huge focus on gun violence. i had david hogg on, someone you know. and he's talked about the ways in which he feels a change, with gen z. but where are advocates in this fight as you see it, and can this platform tonight help? >> well, gun violence is one of the most, you know, major challenges that we face in this country. more children in the united states die from gun violence than from any other cause. can you imagine? it's incredible. >> it's a horrible statistic. >> leaders like david hogg, who have done an extraordinary job. he came out of the parkland horror, have been fantastic. they are bringing up a new generation of young leaders who care not only about stopping gun violence and having commons gun safety laws like a ban on assault weapons, universal background checks, red flag laws, but they have also been real activists, bringing to the
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fore concerns that the american people broadly share. the concern about gun safety is actually popular and credible on both sides of the aisle, more than 70% of americans believe that we need common sense background checks, for example, and yet this is something that has not been possible legislatively. the biden administration and vice president harris leading the office of gun violence prevention in the white house have made extraordinary progress through the bipartisan safer communities act, through executive actions banning ghost guns, and closing the loop holes to the extent that the law provides. but we do finally need an assault weapons ban renewed by congress and made enduring. >> so you have called the dnc this week, quote, i think off the hook. and you're not alone in that. but i wonder, if you look at this and whether it's gun violence or immigration or the other issues, economic issues,
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which are being presented in a different way than we saw at the rnc, if you're able to take this and extrapolate from it, this is what the american people clearly want, because in this room, obviously, everybody is speaking to the converted. >> what the american people want is for there to be an economy that serves everybody. not just donald trump and his billionaire friends and patrons at mar-a-lago, and not just big corporations, but an economy that helps working class people and middle class people, and that's what kamala harris is talking about. that is what the policies of the biden/harris administration have been focused on, and when vice president harris talks about what she's going to do as president -- >> tonight. >> and she will do it again tonight. she'll focus on housing, making it affordable and available to so many people who are struggling to get into sustainable housing, to own their home for the first time, to be able to afford rent, she's put forward very important
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proposals to expand the housing supply, to make down payments more accessible to many. she's talked about the need to bring a middle class tax cut to working families by ensuring that the child tax credit is extended and sustained and increased. these are the kinds of things that matter to families who are struggling with higher prices, that have come down but not far enough. and who care about, you know, how they're going to make ends meet. so that's kamala harris's economic agenda, and then critically, she's focused on ensuring that not only everybody gets included but everybody's freedoms are respected and protected. whether that's your reproductive rights or any other aspect of your ability to be who you are, live as you want to live, and that's the absolute opposite of what donald trump is peddling. he wants fear, hatred, taking us back to a time when women didn't
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have their rights, couldn't control their bodies. the contrast couldn't be sharper and i think we'll hear that very clearly tonight. >> susan rice, good to see you. thank you for coming in. appreciate it. still that he had, live from chicago, democrats pass the torch to a new generation of leaders. we'll talk about it when "chris jansing reports" is live once again from the dnc. dnc my moderate to severe crohn's symptoms kept me out of the picture. now i have skyrizi. ♪ i've got places to go and i'm feeling free ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me ♪ ♪ control is everything to me ♪ and now i'm back in the picture. feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi helped visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. and with skyrizi, many were in remission at 12 weeks, at 1 year, and even at 2 years. serious allergic reactions
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can go vote, but he gets to pick the winner. that's not freedom. >> 75 days and a wake up for us to show that true patriots do not whine and complain, we put our heads down and we get to work. >> here's how we do it, strategize on sunday. meet the moment on monday. take it to him on tuesday. work it out on wednesday. thank you the lord on thursday. fright the power on friday. set it off on saturday. get a few hours of sleep, wake up the next day and do it all over again until joy. joy. joy. comes in the morning. >> if only they would maximize their time on the stage. there's some other folks along with him who are being talked about. claire mccaskill back with me. democrats have been talking about a deep bench. did you see anything this week that makes you think, oh, in the way that barack obama made a lot
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of people say, oh? >> you know, we actually have more than one. you know, we haven't even talked about jasmine crockett, "the new york times" said she set the drapes on fire, you know, so there are so many people. what i worry about when i see this list, honestly, is the contentious primaries we have in our future. because i think a bunch of them, once kamala harris has served two terms, hopefully, i think a bunch of them will sign up -- they're going around to the key state breakfast as we speak. >> maybe kenan thompson because he's been getting a lot of play because of the project 2025. here's a little clip from last night. >> you ever seen a document that could kill a small animal and democracy at the same time? here it is. >> one big book, read a lot of the more disturbing parts of it. but how effective do you think the democrats have been on messaging that? >> i think they've done a very
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good job because every night they've brought that big book out and they've gone into specifics. we have the guy on tape saying trump is not going to say it's his, he knows we did this, we're ready to go in 2025. i think it has caught on in a way they didn't expect it to as a message for us. i think it's great. people need to pay attention to it. it's scary stuff. >> claire mccaskill, it's great to see you. i always love it when we happen to cross paths. >> yes, of course. >> always. >> thanks for coming on. that's going to do it for us this hour. we've got highlights from the night for the dnc tomorrow, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. right now, our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" next. "katy tur reports" next. with liberty mu! (inaudible sounds) (elevator doors opening) wait, there's an elevator? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, ♪ ♪ liberty. ♪
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