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than vance is showing himself to be in the early going, but, yeah. i mean, there is, you know -- there's going to be a point where he'll have to prove that every man image cultivates for himself translate into smaller settings. >> thanks for joining us. appreciate it. >> that's going to do for me today. "deadline white house" starts right now. hi there, everyone. happy friday. it's 4:00 in the east. at this hour the political earthquake that was the democratic national convention is still reverberating in chicago and across our national politics. a short time ago vice president kamala harris departed chicago and she had a message before she took off. [ inaudible ] >> she heads back to washington,
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d.c. with her campaign crackling and turn charged by the show -- stopping final night of programming at her convention capped off by kamala harris' acceptance speech, a speech that not only detailed her uniquely american personal story and her unassailable professional credentials but also issued a call to action, a to-do list, if you will, for her supporters. it was a speech in which kamala harris, the former pridor, delivered a scathing indictment of donald trump lake out with surgical precision how trump has essentially disqualified himself from ever serving as commander in chief again. >> on behalf of everyone, this story could only be written in the greatest nation on earth. i accept your nomination to be president of the united states of america. and let me say i know there are
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people of various political views watching tonight, and i want you to know i promise to be a president for all americans. you can always trust me to put country above party and self, to hold sacred america's fundamental principles from the rule of law to free and fair elections to the peaceful transfer of power. fellow americans, this election is not only the most important of our lives, it is one of the most important in the life of our nation. in many ways, donald trump is an unserious man.
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[ laughter ] but the consequences -- but consequences of putting donald trump back in the white house are extremely serious. donald trump tried to throw away your votes when. when he failed he sent an armed mob to the united states capitol where they assaulted law enforcement officers. when ministers in his own party begged him to call off the mob and send help he did the opposite. he fanned the flames, and now for an entirely different set of crimes he was found guilty of fraud by a jury of everyday americans and separately -- and separately found liable for committing sexual abuse.
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we are the heirs to the greatest democracy in the history of the world. it is now our turn to do what generations before us have done, guided by optimism and faith to fight for this country we love, to fight for the ideals we cherish and to uphold the awesome responsibility that comes with the greatest privilege on earth, the privilege and pride of being an american! [ cheers and applause ] >> that's where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friend.
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yamisha al cinder is with us and fresh off his address in primetime the reverend al sharpton host of "politics nation" and also joining us michigan secretary of state joslyn benson and former republican congressman msnbc political analyst david jolly is here. yamish al cinder, there is no mystery anymore about what the objectives were. they were to share kamala harris' personal story, establish her credentials in law enforcement as a prosecutor, and it was clear by the end of last night that her commander in chief credentials are there. it was maybe to remind people of that, and then to undermine with the speeches from leon panetta and edwin gayego and others and
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her strong defense of what it means to be an american to essentially disqualify donald trump as not just unserious but as a serious threat. >> that's right. i mean, democrats came into this convention, and what they wanted to do was put on display that this is not just an election about vice president harris and the future of this country and whether or not they want to be a decent and kind and inclusive america or you want to go back to a time when america was -- where people were discriminated against against gender and other identifiers. that was the these theies of this. there was also joy. they were really leaning into this idea that democrats are going to be able to usher in a future in america where people can feel hope again, where people can feel good again, where people will feel enthusiastic about the future, and in that speech last night what we saw from vice president harris was really a speech where she laid out her credentials, but she also laid out a personal
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reason why she sees the world the way she sees it. she talked over and over again about her mother. while she didn't talk about explicit lit fact that she didn't make this run as being the first woman of color at the top of a major ticket. she said her mother told her don't show them who you. she showed americans i know what it means to watch your mom saving a decade to buy a house. i know what it means of being a prosecutor of seeing women sexually abused and then being revictimized by a system that might not allow them to have the reproductive health care in order for them not to be continually victimized. she was tying her story to all of the policy decisions that a president harris might act and it really underscored someone who might saw that for a decade and who she is authentically and
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she leenchd back into the kamala harris for the people and they were consultants and other people who use other phrasing, and this is a speech where she said i'm going back to my cut and i'm going back to the center of who i am and. when you think about who was on that stage, al sharpton, of course, a civil rights icon, you also had a new generation of democrats coming up. you had republicans including the former secretary of defense and former cia director leon panetta saying this is a national security issue, so it was also a rainbow coalition of people who democrats say this isn't about country, this is about country. >> rev, let me show you that secretary that yamiche is talking about when she talked about her mom. >> my mother was a brilliant 5 foot tall brown woman with an accent. and as the eldest child -- as
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the eldest child, i saw how the world would sometimes treat her, but my mother never lost her cool. she was tough, courageous, a trailblazer in the fight for women's health, and she taught mia and me a lesson that michele mentioned the other night. she taught us to never complain about injustice but do something about it. do something about it. [ applause ] you know, our opponents in this race are out there every day denigrating america, talking about how terrible everything is. well, my mother had another lesson she used to teach. never let anyone tell you who you are. you show them who you are.
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>> this was -- it's hard to judge what was the loudest applause line, but that was up there, rev. >> no. it was very much up there. i think there were several things going through people's minds when they were listening. one, the kind of -- the way people are raised and they shared the human experience that shaped them into being them. you don't hear that a lot from ministers, and certainly not in the age of donald trump. i don't think i've ever heard donald trump refer to his mother or any lessons he's learned, so i think that it was very significant that this -- that probably the largest audience -- television audience, american audience she has addressed gets to know how she was in many ways raised by a mother and what a mother really put into the
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principles, and i think a lot of people could identify with that, and then saying that a mother said don't make excuses. show people who you are, that she's not coming as this -- as being projected by the trump people somebody that wants to give handouts and give handouts and comes from that background. she's a self-sufficient, self-standing person that wants to see an equal, even playing field but does not want to go into this whole kind of image that she tried to project. i think it was very effective to talk about her mother. >> i want to show you, madam secretary, what she had to say about dictators, rooting for donald trump. >> i will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like kim jong-un who are rooting for trump! who are rooting for trump!
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because, you know, they know -- they know he is easy to manipulate with flattery and favors. they know trump won't hold autocrats accountable because he wants to be an autocrat himself, and as president i will never waiver in defense of america's security and ideals because in the enduring struggle between democracy and tyranny i know where i stand and i know where the united states belongs! >> madam secretary, she takes this thing we all know, right, that donald trump is a threat to our democracy because of his actions before january but especially on january 6. she ties it to something else we all know, his infinity, his
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bizarre affinity to kim jong-un. hoe talks about the beautiful love letters they wrote one another, and then she makes it clear, not that she's going to protect us, that we know who we are. she puts us in this story about democracy versus tyranny in a way i really haven't heard anybody do in the four years since january 6. >> yeah. you know, i was there at the convention in part spending time with harry dunne and another retired capitol police officer who were there other january 6, and the three of us were really moved by the fact that our experience defending democracy was validated and heard and seen and talked about and the connection made between what we've endured, defending democracy on the ground these last several years, and the global implications that we all have to hold dear about not
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standing to defend democracy in this moment, what that means and the choice that every american citizen has this year about who we're going to be moving forward, are we going to continue moving forward to become a truly multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multicultural democracy that is the bedrock of who and how we as a country were founded, and to share that moment with those two heroes was really moving up, so hard to even watch it back and not get choked up because we've endured the threats that democracy has endured personally these last several years, and we know what's at stake, and i hope every american citizen knows the choice that they have now before them, and i hope everyone chooses democracy. >> david jolly, let me show you something that starts with her sort of laying out what he -- what he intends to do. he says consider what he intends to do if he's president once
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again. >> every day in the courtroom i stood proudly before a judge, and i said five words. kamala harris for the people. [ cheers and applause ] >> and to be clear -- and to be clear, my entire career i've only had one client, the people. consider what hoe intends to do if we give him power again. consider his explicit intent to set free violent extremists who assaulted those law enforcement officers at the capitol, his explicit intent to jail journalists, political opponents and anyone he sees as the enemy,
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his explicit intent to deploy our active duty military against our own citizens. consider -- consider the power he will have, especially after the united states supreme court just ruled that he would be immune from criminal prosecution. just imagine donald trump with no guardrails. and how he would use the immense powers of the presidency of the united states, not to improve your life, not to strengthen our national security but to serve of the only client he has ever
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had, himself. >> you know, david jolly, i thought what she did so effectively there is have this conversation with the whole country, the millions of people watching that we've had for eight years about guardrails and how in a second trump presidency and now a completely unshackled with any concerns over his own criminal exposure because of the supreme court's immunity ruling that this would be -- you know, to put it to the country, imagine what he would do without any guardrails, without even a bill barr to stop him on january of, without even a mike pence to refuse do this coup thing without the fear of criminal exposure because of the supreme court's ruling. >> donald trump is a threat to the country as we know it. he's a threat to democracy, and her recitation of that threat is a regular in addition of kind of what has brought together this coalition that has been there, as you say for the last eight
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years, but i think even beyond that, what she did and what this week did is really provide a capstone to the last eight years in a very special way. i think that coalition that came together loosely around the threat of donald trump, that coalition really came together this week in a way it never has before to actually move the country forward together, not just to stop donald trump, and when i say a capstone, consider when donald trump emerged, much of the political coverage, notwithstanding the threat to the country, was about the demise and division of the republican party. it wasn't really about this coalition that owe merged because the democratic party was kind of gifted the coalition but wasn't even sure if they wanted it at the time. they welcomed the votes, but they had their own issues, and they weren't set up to invite republicans in to the party at the time. consider the 1718 cycle, the 1920 psych wille. there wish use around civil liberties about people who knelt with the flag, black lives
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matter, the emergence of the squad, all critical voices, critical conversations, but internal conversations that really landed on the brand of the democratic party and republicans didn't have an interest in that, and then we move into the '20 cycle and you had 15 candidates. you had elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, even kamala harris at the time from the left, and republicans were trying to figure out what is this coalition that i can be a part of? everybody was fighting trumpism alongside each other but not necessarily together, and i think in '20 maybe the cliburn/biden soul of the nation coalition started to make sense but even democrats at the time were saying wait a minute, we've got progressive priorities. but what happened this week in chicago was we saw kind of the permanence now of that soul of america coalition that joe biden had kamala harris who has pubtd her own leadership and own competency and standards.
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it was we're all now in this together. it wasn't a left/right thing. it was a remarkable moment where republicans feel a part of the democratic-led coalition, and that coalition is an incredibly powerful one because it moves the democratic party from a 47%, 48% coalition potential throw a 55% coalition. it was transformative when vice president harris did in chicago, and i think it -- if president to vice president harris had known this was the right direction, maybe the party was just a little behind in catching up, but the party now has said to all americans under the leadership voice of vice president harris, come be a part of this coalition led by the democratic party whether you're a democrat or not, but what they have also done is they made a lot of those independents and persuadables and soft republicans think maybe i really am a democrat this morning. this was a remarkable,
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remarkable week for the vice president and the democratic party writ large. >> david, it's such a profound point. i mean, it really, is and it really should be covered exactly as you articulated it, because i know people like to say he's not republican, he's mag a. elwell, republican is maga and maga is republican. they are one in the same. this wasn't just a democratic coalition. anecdotally you can see every republican was cheered. the reception for olivia joy and stephanie grisham and mayor giles of arizona and then adam bz kinzinger got some of the biggest roars from the crowd. and the credit goes to the democratic party for inviting us in, but it also goes to kamala harris and joe biden and governor walz for running on it, for running on the strength of the coalition and the power of all of us together.
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>> it doesn't happen without their leadership. this coalition showed up for democrats in '18 and '20 and '22 and a lot of people said can i get a seat at the table, not necessarily to influence ideology but to trust us. we're with you to try to save the country. if you consider after january 6, 2021 that tens of thousands of people who left the republican party, democrats did not even target those republicans then to say you just left your party over violence to our democracy. democrats didn't even go find those republicans, but fast forward four years and you see republicans speaking at the convention, and i think that the other feeling, and this is where republican party is really, really in trouble right now. there was this sense coming out of chicago that there's really only one political party in the country right now. there's really only one legitimate political party as the vice president said that's committed to a peaceful transfer of party, to exers earthing
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strong but moral leadership on the world stage on behalf of the country, that has a competent domestic policy for all americans, that is willing to work together regardless of policy, that is today's democratic party. the republican party has this mishmash as tim walz would say of some weird folks but it does not resemble capable of leading the country. today's democratic party does. >> such an interesting statement and profound. yamiche, thanks for your reporting, from parts not always convenient and bringing us your great reporting. really grateful for all of you making time for us. david, the rev stick around for more. we'll show you much more of vice president kamala harris' historic speech. plus the case of donald trump as told by some of the people he unfairly targeted, members of the central park five.
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now the exonerated five make a moving appearance at the convention, and later in the program, one after the other, national security voices including the vice president herself eviscerated donald trump's ability to ever defend america on the world stage. we'll talk about the case against the ex-president made by harris and leon panetta and reuben gayego among others. we'll continue with much more when "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. the secret is the powerful ingredient, apoaequorin, originally discovered in jellyfish and found only in prevagen. in a clinical study, prevagen was shown to improve memory in subgroups of individuals who were cognitively normal or mildly impaired. stay sharp and improve your memory with prevagen. prevagen. in stores everywhere without a prescription. my moderate to severe crohn's symptoms kept me out of the picture. now i have skyrizi. ♪ i've got places to go and i'm feeling free ♪
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court to take away reproductive freedom, and now he brags about it. in his words, quote, i did it, and i'm proud to have done it, end quote, and understand he is not done. as a part of his agenda, he and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion and enact a nationwide abortion ban with or without congress. and get this, get this, he plans to create a national anti-abortion coordinator and force states to report on women's miscarriages and abortions. simply put, they are out of their minds.
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and one must ask -- one must ask why exactly is it that they don't trust women? well, we trust women. we trust women. >> we're back with the rev and secretary benson. if you want to know which one line of the speech that got under donald trump's skin you can find his post wherever it is that he posts thing and it's some outrageous lie, i won't even repeat it, about reproductive freedom, an absolute fabrication about his record and what he explanation to do if rowe elected but that one line, they are out of their minds could apply to so many things, but when you look at the huge numbers that support access to abortion health care and
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support roe as it was before dobbs, it's just a perfect way to put trump's positions in the extreme category they belong. >> yeah. the idea of trusting women, trusting citizens. all of that is a thread that weaves through really the choice that's going to be before voters this fall. do we -- in an effort to overturn democracy suggests that you don't trust voters' power and ability to make their own decisions, an effort to block or overturn reproductive freedom suggests you don't trust women to be able to know what's best for their own economic and life choices, and so all of that really is the sense that we, the american citizens deserve to be trusted in a democracy by those who lead our country is really a powerful framework for us all to think about as we select not just who we want to lead our country but who we want to lead
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us in states and federal offices and those on the ballot this year and really drives a stark contrast that underlines, you know, what democracy is all about. it's about a government that trusts the people to make our decisions for ourselves. >> sec benson, how do you -- you know, you're from michigan, one of the most important battleground states. how do you feel at the end of these four days? how are you feeling about the state of the race? >> well, i'll just say this week in chicago for plea was among many things a celebration of women uplifting women. it's what we've lived lieu in michigan the last several years and the success, the results for all that come from women working together and supporting each other, trusting each other and lifting each other up, because, you know, you've got peggy flanagan poised to become the next governor, and abigail spanberger in virginia. you've got an extraordinary moment for women leadership, and
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you have women who led the way, like hillary clinton, like jennifer granholm and others and, of course, our governor currently gretchen whitmer. the power of women's voices in this moment is a really beautiful one and the unity of those voices is also something that i think we're going to see carry through multiple elections as well as multiple offices that are on the ballot this fall. >> michigan's secretary of state benson, great to talk to you after the week that was and david jolly, always great to talk to you. thanks for joining us today. the rev sticks around a little bit longer. people wrongly accused and incarcerated and people whose lives were offended by donald trump took the stage at the dnc last night with a powerful message for the american people. quote, donald trump has never changed and he never will. they said. we'll bring you that story next. . they said. we'll bring you that story next.
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we've endured january 6 and conspiracy theories and lies and darkness, but if we stay together, black, white, latina, asian, indian american, if we stay together, joy, joy, joy, joy coming in the morning! [ cheers and applause ] >> listen to that. our friend and colleague, the reverend al sharpton bringing down the house, the crowd on its feet at the final night of the democratic national convention. the rev also had some special guests. he also included members of the exonerated five who witnessed firsthand the extent of donald trump's cruelty and callousness and carelessness. when trump took out a full-page ad in the "new york daily news" calling for the five who were teenagers at the time to receive the death penalty for a crime they didn't commit. one of the five now a new york
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city councilman calling for america to move beyond the disgraced ex-president. he invokes the title of the miniseries about the five's fight to clear their names "when they see us." watch. >> together on november 5 we will usher in kamala harris and tim walz into the white house. [ applause ] so i want to do this. when i say one day, i want you to say see us. >> one day. >> see us. >> when they see us, america will finally say good-bye to that hateful man. [ applause ] we will say what i have said
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after seven long years of wrongful incarceration free at last. free at last. free at last, thank god, almighty, we are free at last. god bless you and god bless the united states of america! . >> joining ours conversation the distinguished political scholar and professor at princeton university and the rev is here. i'm proud to have you as a colleague but if you could have seen us at 30 roque beaming in that moment as you really brought the crowd -- it was like a cathartic moment, not a dry eye we saw in our camera shots and brought them to their feet with that presentation. tell me what that was like for you. >> well, i wanted to really
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speak to the fact that, yes, i lead a civil rights organization and we don't endorse candidates, but which do talk about what's going on in the country and we do assess candidates, and i wanted to say to them that we must fight what trump represents, but we also must fight towards bringing the country back to a position of hope, and i find the most effective people are people that preach hope. i remember in the '80s jesse jackson who used to be a youth director, a new york youth director used to talk about keep hope alive. later barack obama, the audacity of hope, so we don't fight out of bitterness or revenge, we fight out of hope which is the opposite of donald trump who is all grievance, who is all complaining, and one of the things that i wanted to given in
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my report is there's any number of polls that are saying and donald trump keeps advocating or putting them out there, promoting them, that black men, some black men are trending his way, and i wanted to say, well, let me show you who those of us in his hometown new york knows how he feels about black men. in 1989 a white female was viciously, maliciously beaten and raped in central park. it was one of the most incorrigible acts we've ever heard of. they blamed five young black and latino young men, four of who were in the park that night. they were coerced into confessions. one of the moms called me as the national action network and other groups and said we don't believe they were guilty. no way do we condone what happened to her and they were
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coerced confessions. they were convicted and went to jail. the oldest one was only 16 at the time, cory weiss did 13 years at jail and they got out when someone in jail inadvertently told another inmate that he did it, they matched the dna and they had to release these young men. where do you go doing 13 years in jail for a crime they didn't commit? we hired cory-wises until he got a settlement from the city. donald trump not only called for them to get the death penalty in '89 when it happened, he said the city should never settle with them and he continued to advocate against them, so that's why i wanted the people to see this is how he deals with black men in his own town. we can all be wrong about a case but to advocate a death penalty and then to come back years later and say don't even settle when dna proved that they were not the ones involved, and i
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thought it was a dramatic and important way to look at the convention last night and to see these young men never gave up hope. the rest of them have lectured at schools, and yousef salaam is a city councilman. they did not drown in a sea of cynicism. they represented hope against come of the most egregious things that i see happen and part of it was donald trump. let me say this in closing. donald trump never took a position on any other race case in new york, not howard beach 35 years ago that happened in the borough of queens where he was born and raised, never opened his mouth, bensonhurst which was going on at the time of central park, a black young man was killed just for being in the neighborhood all the way to
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george floyd. the only case he ever stood up and put money up to buy ads was to get these five young men. you'd have to ask yourself, fine, you know, if you did ten cases in one or two you disagreed with, fine, but he never took up any case but this case which showed you a lot about donald trump. >> it was such, such a powerful part of an incredibly eventful night. sort of stopped me in my tracks. i want to ask about a few things, eddie. i have to sneak in a quick break first. we'll all be back on the other side. ak first. we'll all be back on the other side 1892 wow. that one here is the boat they came over on. yes. wow.
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ensure, nutrition for strength and energy. for years donald trump did everything in his power to try to make people fear us. see his limited narrow view of the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard working highly educated successful people who happen to be black. [ cheers and applause ] wait. i want to know. i want to know. who is going to tell him -- who is going to tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those black jobs?
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[ cheers and applause ] >> i could play that every day between now and election day and i wouldn't tire of watching that bit. it's sharp. it's powerful. it's also spot on. i mean, what -- what enrages donald trump? i can't rewind the tape back far enough to remember why this week jesse waters over at fox news is still talking about birtherism. what is it about the obamas that can't exist in the sick world of donald trump's maga? >> well, that's a wonderful question. it has everything to do about the assumption that place that black people should occupy, has certain assumptions about government putting its scale to allow black success, that we don't have the capacity to achieve excellence and so we have to have the help of some other folks, so it it carries with it the weight of our
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history, and i think what was so extraordinary about the convention is that it wasn't heavy-handed in the various ways in which it described maga and it being saturated in racial grievance. it really just simply made the point directly, affirmative action of generational wealth, he's uncomfortable with successful black people and the way that the central park five were brought out. that was layered with meaning. one, it happened in the connext which there was a celebration of our status of being a prosecutor and here we have an example of prosecutorial misconduct. another example, of course, these young men were caught up in the midst of a moral and socialpanic. they were wild and quote, unquote, the super predators and how that moral panic generated a response by the criminal justice system that led to these young men, these teenagers being, you know, drafted, being arrested and imprisoned in some ways.
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right? so we've got that, and all the while that's happening, think about how it ended, how did corey wise have on his head? usa, so here was an example of patriotism rooted in a kind of journey that would suggest that they might be a bit skeptical about the country, but they turn out to be the true patriots, not donald trump and his maga republicans. >> well, and that was the message of the whole week, and that was the message delivered by the republicans most frontally. it was the republicans who said, i think olivia said voting for kamala harris doesn't make you a democrat, it makes you a patriot. adam kinzinger said my party's soul has been smothered.
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how do you leave the week feeling? do you feel hopeful, eddie? do you feel optimistic, or do you not dare? >> you know how we are, hopeful. we've got a lot of work to do. we're in it to win it as joe scarborough said this morning. i think there was an unforced error by not having any palestinian-americans speak. i know this. there's an energy, an enthusiasm, and now as coach walz said, we're in the trenches engaging in the blocking and tackling so we can get the ball down the field, and get this field goal and win this election and save american democracy. >> rev, how do you feel at the end of the four days? >> i feel guardedly hopeful, guardedly in the sense that i do not want people that i spent the whole week at the democratic
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convention to leave so jubilant that they do not do the work. they seriously need to be prepared that donald trump is going to fight with everything he has. this man's not fighting for an election, he's fighting for his life. he's facing three more trials. he's facing a sentencing on 34 felonies on september 18th. his money all jammed up by state attorney general tish james, so i think that they have to be ready to fight. but the hope is that we're fighting to win something bigger than an election, and that is the direction of the country. it's not an election, it's a selection of which way we're going to go. >> eddie glaude, rev al sharpton, thank you so much for joining us on this friday. another break for us. we'll be right back. l be right . weathered the storm and just lived with the damage that was left behind.
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as vice president, i have confronted threats to our security, negotiated with foreign leaders, strengthened our alliances, and engaged with our brave troops overseas. as commander in chief, i will ensure america always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world. [ cheers and applause ] and i will fulfill our sacred obligation to care for our troops and their families, and i will always honor and never disparage their service and their sacrifice. >> hi again, everybody, it's now 5:00 in the east, the commander in chief of the united states atop the most formidable armed forces our planet has ever known
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is to be the single most powerful person in the world. and when vice president kamala harris makes the case that she is trained and ready to bear that responsibility, where her opponent has already failed, she isn't making the case alone. in the spirit of coalition building and making direct appeals to the far corner of the electorate, the harris/walz campaign wants voters to hear from other trusted voices on this topic. for instance, speaking to and perhaps on behalf of the entire national security apparatus and community, especially those who have stayed silent, former u.s. secretary of defense, leon panetta made the distinction crystal clear. >> so we face a critical choice, to vote for someone who stands with our military and stands up for democracy or someone who will disrespect our heroes and
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undermine our democracy. my fellow americans, there is only one choice. one choice. and let me tell you something, when she takes her oath of office, as she will this january, our allies will cheer. our enemies will fear. and we will have a commander in chief that we can trust. >> a similar case made to perhaps a slightly different audience shortly thereafter. here's former congressman adam kinzinger, a veteran, former republican congressman, a member of the january 6th select committee speaking directly to his fellow republicans. >> how can a party claim to be patriotic if it idolizes a man
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who tried to overthrow a free and fair election. how can a party claim to stand for liberty if it sees a fight for freedom in ukraine an attack pitting tyranny against democracy, a challenge to everything our nation claims to be. and it retreats. it equivocates. it nominates a man who is weirdly obsessed with putin. and his running mate, who said, quote, i don't care what happens in ukraine, and he wants to be vice president. >> and finally, no conversation about u.s. national security is ever complete without input from the men and women in the military and the men and women who wear uniforms. when he delivered his remarks, arizona congressman, ruben gallego stood on stage with fellow veterans to thunderous
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applause, here's congressman gallego. >> these veterans represent the best of our country. we stand united as veterans, democrats, and patriots to fight for everyone who serves. but politicians, but politicians like donald trump, they don't stand with us. they call patriots like senator mccain losers. john mccain was an american hero. show some respect. >> show some respect. wow. having made the case that the united states' position of global leadership is on the line in november, vice president kamala harris was very clear, the selection is not only the most important in our lives, it's one of the most important
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in the life of our nation. it's also where we start today with some of our favorite experts. retired u.s. marine corp. lieutenant colonel, founder of democratic action pack, amy mcgrath is back, and deputy national security adviser under president obama, ben rose is here, and chief political columnist, the host of the podcast "in politic" msnbc national affairs analyst, john heilemann is here. john heilemann, i looked at the program at the beginning of the night, and i wasn't sure where leon panetta and ruben gallego fit in. i had the privilege of speaking to both of them. they're incredible. once kamala harris got into the national security section, not just her credentials, but her indictment of trump's, it all clicked into place, and i heard in leon panetta's remarks something that i'm sure we've all heard privately from the kind of men and women who don't want to politicize their former
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national security agencies, but the scathing indictment of trump's lack of fitness. what did you think of that presentation last night? >> well, nicolle, happy friday, by the way. i thought that i have covered leon panetta basically my entire career in different administrations and that he is not oprah winfrey, and he's not bill clinton. he's not barack obama. he's not michelle obama. he's not a high wattage star. i think that that was by intent. i think there was a reason, a very good reason why we didn't see beyonce or taylor swift or anybody else last night. it was supposed to be a night, last night was going to focus on kamala harris, kamala harris alone, and leon panetta is the perfect surrogate for that because he is someone who, though most americans are not -- who don't live in the political world know, leon panetta has
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served republican administrations, democratic administrations, started his career in the nixon administration, has served at the cia, has served at the pentagon, has served at the omb, the white house. in terms of understanding the interplay between the executive function and the military and the intelligence operations and the hill is maybe as well versed and as credible, more credible, as credible as anybody on earth, arguably more credible than anybody living. for me, i thought this is the kind of surrogate you want here. which is someone whose credibility is unimpeachable and someone who also is not going to be anyone who is going to steal the limelight that should be focused on the nominee tonight. and i thought he did a great job in terms of how he made the argument. on paper, it is the right argument to be making in a guy like leon panetta, when you put it together with adam kinzinger, you have a possible one-two
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front, in terms of doing work you want to get done for her. >> yeah, i mean, amy, i thought this was -- and i agree with all of john's analysis here, i thought this was some of the best constructed arguments because they came at the millions of people viewing from home, from every place. they came from a veteran. they came from this long trusted hand, speaking almost in monotone without hyperbole, without any flowery language, just his sort of testimony to kamala harris's superiority over the alternative in november, and then adam kinzinger was the one who kind of came in with the barn burner, indictment, with donald trump's lack of patriotism, and affinity, weird affinity for vladimir putin. >> yeah, it was the perfect one-two punch because you had leon panetta that really made
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people who may not know kamala harris, who care about national security, who worry about, you know, is this person ready to be commander in chief, you had somebody of his background and his experience vouching for her saying we need her behind that resolute desk. we need her as commander in chief, and at the same time, reminding voters how bad donald trump is. and adam kinzinger did a perfect job of, he wasn't talking to the democrats who were in the united center. he was talking to fellow republicans. he was talking to independents basically saying, look, the other party has lost its way, and how can you call yourself patriotic if you follow a man who would not agree to the very basic premise of what american democracy is all about, and that is the peaceful transfer of power, and i think he did that so effectively last night.
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>> let me show you a little bit of adam kinzinger's speech about the democratic party, speaking directly to republicans. >> i've wondered something about the democratic party, and i want to let my fellow republicans in on the secret, the democrats are as patriotic as us. [ cheers and applause ] they love this country just as much as we do. [ cheers and applause ] [ chanting usa ] >> and they are as eager to defend american values at home and abroad as we conservatives have ever been. i was relieved to discover that because i've learned something
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about my party too, something i couldn't ignore. the republican party is no longer conservative. it has switched its allegiance from the principals that gave it purpose to a man whose only purpose is himself. >> ben, i said in 2016 after trump's acceptance speech to lester holt, the republican party died in this room. and it didn't really land. you know, i felt it because i had worked for bush and mccain, and i knew how trump was different. but to hear someone who was a republican member of congress say that, that the party doesn't exist anymore because it has abandoned its principles, and its only purpose is to support donald trump, was such an impactful thing, for me as an ex-republican, and i'm sure that
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had special resonance as not just someone who's comfortable with harris, but someone who's there campaigning for harris as the only choice on questions of national security. >> yeah, he didn't look uncomfortable to be there, nicolle. he looked like he was in the right place. he looked like he was wearing clothes that fit him, you know. in terms of the slowness from 2016, for some people to come around to that view, it's now been a decade almost of donald trump dominating this party, so you can no longer say to yourself, well, trump's an aberration, well, if trump gets in there, maybe he'll hire people that are familiar to me as republicans. no, we're now through the third election cycle in which this is becoming increasing about the interests of one man, and a couple of ways that i think it was particularly effective, with the kamala harris speech, number one, the democrats from the first night of that convention through the very end were very assertive about american
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patriotism. there was a through-line in all of those speeches from the symbolism to the rhetoric to who was on stage about a big inclusive american patriotism, and that was, i think, an intentional effort to say this is our flag. freedom is our word. we stand for the things that should unite americans, not just democrats themselves. so kinzinger kind of validating that from the outside, i think, makes that feel more credible. and at the same time, the critique from kamala harris of donald trump on both national security and on other issues in politics was that he's only in it for himself. he's got one client. it's himself. he likes these autocrats because he wants to be one. that ties it together. trump runs down a country, he attacks war heroes like john mccain. it all kind of tie the together, nicolle, under one message,
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which is what you hope for at these conventions, the democratic party is the big inclusive party that stands for american values, and the republican party has become a vehicle for one man's personal ambitions. it lands because it's true. the easiest messages to land are the ones that are obvious before people's eyes, and everyone from adam kinzinger, ruben gallego to kamala harris could tie all of that together. >> let me show you something, john heilemann, that congressman pat said about suckers and losers, and repeated an insult on veterans pretty recently. so this came up last night. let me play this. >> at west point, you learn the honor code. i will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.
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well, there's a candidate who has violated every word in that code. a serial liar, cheater, thief, who looked soldiers in the eye, then turned around and calls fallen heroes suckers and losers, who insulted medal of honor recipients just last week. i tell you what i think of donald trump, they told me i can't say that word on tv, i'm going to use an army term. fubar. you don't know fubar, google it. >> am i allowed to say what
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fubar means on the air? >> it's friday. you do what you think is right. >> we can say efed up beyond all recognition. >> very good job. >> i guess so. yes, i'm being very restrained today. yes, nicolle, you were passionate about it whenever that story was, my mind is mush about timing now, but when trump made the comment about the congressional medal of freedom versus the presidential medal of honor, and the thing about how you can't understand. you were saying on the air, you can't understand why anybody who has ever been in the military, currently in the military, ever been in the military or has ever been close to anyone, family or otherwise in the military, why they would ever support donald trump, and i think that, you know, the picture that harris painted yesterday, and i'm glad you led the show with the clip
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where she said the word lethal, because i think it's one of the most important words that got used last night. it showed how unafraid she is of getting some on the far left mad at her. she wants -- how absolutely committed she is to winning, to speak in that kind of language that is right down the middle of the plate in terms of the ideological orientation of the country, and she is -- there's not a world where she can campaign against donald trump in the way that, for instance, a military veteran can, but there's definitely a world in which making the kind of arguments that they're making with her being that strong, her being that assertive, her being that, in some cases, mildly militaristic, in some of her relatively hawkish positions on foreign policy, she can, given all of his weaknesses, that she can gain some ground on him with some important constituencies, and i think the chorus of people
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reminding the country about suckers and losers is really important. it would be awesome if john kelly would live up to his convictions and come out and settle this matter when donald trump says it's made up. it would be hard for donald trump to get in a fight with john kelly in public. things he has said to people like jeff goldberg to back up that story. that would be very helpful. >> all right. we're going to continue this conversation. i want to get you on this, amy. i have to sneak in a quick break first. also, when we come back, much more on the case being made by kamala harris and her broad coalition that her opponent is completely and utter will i unfit and unable to be the country's commander in chief ever again. plus, fresh off his address to the nation last night at the dnc, congressman colin allred of texas is fired up and ready to take on ted cruz. he'll join us on his mission to
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i helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against putin's aggression. and as president, i will stand strong with ukraine and our nato allies. >> we're back with amy, ben, and john. amy, i want you to pick up where john heilemann left off. this story, i want to say it was 2020, but the covid years sort of collapsed in my brain. when this atlantic story came out. and there's been other corroborative reporting in the years since, and i think john kelly has in statements but not on camera affirmed these accounts. weigh in on hearing other veterans make this sharp contrast between kamala harris and donald trump. >> well, i would love to get or
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hear from general kelly. i think the american public deserves to hear from general kelly and others who worked with donald trump, but i would say this, there's a lot of folks who have worked with donald trump who have said these things. i mean, just this week, hr mcmaster, who was trump's national security adviser, his first one, is in his new book, i think it's coming out in september, said that it was clear that vladimir putin was able to manipulate donald trump because of trump's own insecurities, which is exactly what vice president harris said in her speech last night. hey, in contrast, she said, and i think it's a very basic thing to do, unfortunately we have to do it in this day and age, where vice president harris said to the american people, look, i will not cozy up to dictators. i will not cozy up to kim jong un and vladimir putin. all right. i will stand up to them.
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and they know, and she said, you know, we have seen the opposite happen with the guy that i'm running against, and it's true. and it's not just by vice president harris saying this. it's his former national security adviser, it's john bolton, his other national security adviser, who said that trump didn't understand what alliances were all about. it's his former secretary of defense, mark esper who said i don't think this guy should be in the white house again because i think he's going to use the military against our own civilians. so this is important, but there have been a lot of people who have come out already, former trump officials and have stepped up and made these pretty impressive statements about how bad donald trump really is. >> ben, it's a good point, it's a good reminder that all of the information is in front of all -- we have all the information we need to make an informed decision on the commander in chief question. i don't mean we, i mean we as a country.
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let me show you a little bit more of leon panetta's case for harris and against donald trump because, again, it is right in line with the things that people who aren't yet ready to do this on camera or to do this publicly or to attach their names to their indictment of trump, it is precisely what they say. >> trump tells tyrants like putin, they can do whatever the hell they want. kamala harris tells tyrants the hell you can, not on my watch. she knows a tyrant when she sees one, and our allies know a leader when they see one. on the senate intelligence committee and as vice president, she worked with more than 150 world leaders. she's looked our allies in the
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eye and said, america has your back. trump would abandon our allies and isolate america. >> one of the ways that eight years of trumpism have sort of flipped the script in american politics is that trump is the risky, sort of questionable patriot in the contest, and that point was made not by lifelong democrats but by lifelong republicans. i think lieutenant governor jeff duncan, i misquoted this earlier in the hour, who said a vote for kamala harris isn't the democratic thing to do. it's the patriotic thing to do. and again, adam kinzinger, olivia troy, a national security adviser to mike pence made a similar argument, and stephanie gresham. what do you make of national security which isn't typically
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front and center in the final 70 days of a general election being so central to the message on this fourth night of the election? >> that's where voters are. we have seen research over the years, some of the soft trump voters, people who may be more culturally conservative are concerned about these aspects of trump's personality in politics, so it's a place for the democrats to extend their coalition. i think, again, what was effective here is that there's a message against trump and the message for harris. now, the message against trump, i think one of the things panetta and other speakers did that was effective. trump sometimes turns these into social media controversies, and makes them seem less important. i think last night, the democrats drove home, this is serious business. you had a member of law enforcement stand up there in uniform and make the case about how endangered law enforcement
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personnel were by what trump did on january 6th. you had multiple speakers making the case that telling russia they can do whatever the hell they want, would expand a war into other allies in ways that are profoundly destabilizing. kamala harris herself made the case that said this disregard for veterans extends to a project 2025 agenda that would take away health care from veterans, and deprioritize the debt that we have to veterans, and then on the other side of the coin, i think the point they drove home is this is a fearless person in kamala harris, the same attributes that allowed her to kind of face down and stare down either violent criminals or big banks when she was a prosecutor, she has that kind of same steely resolve, when it comes to facing down autocrats. this is what you want, as someone who worked as a speech writer in national security, you want to tie this all together in ways that they understand. the argument you're making
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against somebody, and the argument you're making for somebody, and again, i think the important point for all of us here not just trump controversies but to do what was done last night, this is dangerous. you know, this can get people killed as it did on january 6th. this can get our allies invaded. it's not something we can take a risk on. >> at a more basic, political level, ben, what you're saying is this gets reduced to strength versus weakness, and she's the one squarely occupying strength, and all of these speakers depicted trump as weak and cowering. ben rhodes, thank you so much for starting us off today. amy and john, stick around. after the break, according to new polling out of the lone star state, our next guest is within the margin of error in his race against ted cruz in texas. congressman allred will tell us
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we will protect, restore reproductive freedom. we will secure the border. we will protect medicare and social security. and we'll turn the page and write a new chapter for this country. let kamala harris be the next president and beat ted cruz. [ chanting beat ted cruz ] >> congressman colin allred, last night with a brutally honest and message for the me guys out there, people like donald trump and ted cruz that despite their efforts against it, democracy is and always has been about us. we the people. joining us now, the aforementioned democratic congressman, colin allred of texas, fresh off that address to the hall in prime time last night. how was that? tell me what that experience was like. >> hey, nicolle, thanks for having me. it was great, and it was a unique experience for me.
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you know, what i wanted to do in the short bit of time that i had was introduce myself, talk about how important this election is, but also that -- and we all know guys like ted cruz and donald trump. anybody who's been on a team, anybody that's had to work in a group setting knows what i'm talking about. there's those guys who take all the credit, who don't do any of the work, who you can't count on in a crisis, and they're the guys who hold you back, and you can't have too many of them in any kind of team setting. in the nfl, lockers rooms have a way of tuning those guys out. you see them bounce from team to team, even though they're talented. in texas, we can't afford six more years of a guy like ted cruz who only cares about himself, and part of his self-interest is taking away the rights of texans, and a lot of this convention was about stories of ted cruz's texas, where texas women were telling
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their stories about losing fundamental freedoms and rights, to make decisions about their body. he has prevented us from securing the border, how we have to protect medicare and social security. this is what ted cruz has made us into. and this convention in a lot of ways was about that. >> such an interesting point. i watched every minute of it, and i didn't think about that. but we also heard a uvalde mom. >> yeah. >> so this is ted cruz's america that we're all living in when it comes to doing nothing about gun safety, something that upwards of 70, 80% of all americans want. kate cox was the texas woman who spoke during the roll call about not receiving abortion health care. again, 76% of americans supported roe, and he took that away. and his role in stopping the biden/harris administration from doing anything on immigration. i wonder if you can speak to the effort by the harris candidacy to depict these things not as masculine or strong but as
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cowardly and weak and small? >> yeah, well, i think that they are pursuing the right path there. and, you know, for us in texas, you know, we're used to having independent leaders who put texas first. we have a long tradition of this. you know this, nicolle. and in a lot of ways, ted cruz is a follower. he's a follower who just is trying to kind of feed off the scraps of, you know, his leader who in many cases is doing things that are not in texas's interest. so what i have always tried to be is somebody who, listen, i'm a democrat, obviously, but i'll stand up to my party when i think that we're wrong, and you know, what we have to do is also put these folks in the right context, that for us, you know, we don't have to be embarrassed by our senator. we can get a new one. we don't have to have a small senator who's a follower, who doesn't get things done for us. we can get a new one. we can have a fourth generation texan who will care about all of us. that's what this campaign has been about. this is what we see the harris
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campaign talking about, yes, you know, ted cruz was part of the effort to overturn the election in 2020. he was one of the architectures of that, and so he's dangerous. but they're also small. >> what is happening in texas? i've had beto o'rourke on twice in the last couple of weeks. i feel like he knows, you know, precinct by precinct that state inside and out, and he swears something's happening in texas. what are your internal polls show? >> listen, this is a neck-in-neck race. i know folks back home need to understand that. i know who we are as texans, and i know my state. i'm a fourth generation texan, born and raised in dallas. my family is from brownsville. i went to college at baylor. i know who we are, and we're not who ted cruz says we are, and what we have had happen is we've had extreme leaders like him who have taken away our rights and whose rhetoric has now become policy, and so, yes, it was kate cox, who's a friend of mine, and kate is going to be with me
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tomorrow in the event we're doing in dallas, and amanda and her husband josh, telling their story, they were denied the care she needed when she was going through a miscarriage, and she may not be able to welcome a child. texans and hearing these stories and talking about those stories, and we're going to stand up for the real texas. if there's one thing i know about us, we believe in freedom. you're not free when ted cruz is in your doctor's office when you're having these incredibly important discussions. i need folks from all around to understand what's happening in texas and to be a part of it, and to go to colinallred.com, and help us out. you may not have understood my state in the past. we have raised a million dallas in the last 24 hours. we're going to beat ted cruz, and when we do, it's not just a win for the democratic party. it's a win for texas. >> do you think kamala harris has a chance to flip texas? >> you know, i don't know. i know this.
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i really mean this, nicolle. i know that we're not a state that believes in extremism, and we're not a state of extremists. i represented president bush, you know, for the last four years in congress. i know you worked for him, and he's somebody who, you know, in a lot of ways, you know, i've known him my whole life, growing up in dallas, when he was with the rangers, and governor and president, and they have gone so far from that version of the texas kind of republican, you know, values that i grew up around, that i went to folks at baylor with, that they have left those far, far behind. and that's why there's so many texas republicans who do support me. that's why i got elected in a district in dallas that was a traditionally republican district by folks who had voted for george w. bush, and also on november 5th, i think we'll see a coalition, not just of democrats but of independents and republicans as well, you know, getting rid of ted cruz. and so you're right, i mean,
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there's something happening here. and it's going to have impacts up and down the ballot. for us in texas, the singular choice is that we have to choose who's going to represent us for the next six years until 2030, and we can't have that be ted cruz again. >> yeah, it's interesting, to your point, the republican most sees the world the way george w. bush did is adam kinzinger, and the only convention he was invited to speak at is the democratic convention. >> he's a friend of mine. >> stay in touch. keep us posted. if you see anything exciting in your internal polling pop back on and tell us about it. thank you so much, and good luck. >> thanks, nicolle. to all of you at home, please stay with us. next, we will turn to the democrats who brought the joy and the hope to chicago this week. we'll look at some of the most memorable moments from the democratic national convention when we come back. national conn when we come back.
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the words of the great steph curry, we can tell donald trump, night night. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> i take a point of personal privilege there. that was my favorite moment of the week, one of them. amy and john, what were yours, amy, you first? >> you know, there were so many great moments. i think my favorite was the night, the third night, and i was there all four nights and got to watch the whole thing. it was when tim walz was talking about the struggle for his family to have children, and how he and his wife needed fertility treatments and how difficult that was, and that it was a miracle for them to be able to have children. and then he looked over at his children sitting out there in the crowd, and just told the world how much he loved them. and his son who's 17, who you see there, gus, stood up and he
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had so much emotion, and he stood up and said that's my dad, and it was just like the best moment. it's just amazing. >> i still -- i've watched it so many times, i still cannot watch it without crying. i love gus and hope. i think the whole country does. what's your favorite moment, most memorable moment? >> the whole country, except ann coulter. >> that's right. >> that puts them in a pretty good place. i think about this, nicolle, from the perspective of i have to see it through the lens of political analysis, and humanity, obviously, because there is this big job that happened this week which was, you know, defining kamala harris, introducing her to the country, and i think one of the most low key effective and also super charming moments was the totally of doug emhoff's speech.
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you know, a guy going out there against some of the greatest speakers in the party on tuesday night, he's out there amid the obamas, you know, and his speech was -- it's a hard thing, you know, he's the first -- we've never had a second gentleman, let alone, someone aspiring to be the first gentleman. they're a power couple by any definition, but you can tell one of the things that's so affecting about them as a fair is that they're kind of goofy with each other, and the goofiness, the combination of like the size of their personalities with all of that in the same way that tim walz has obviously for his family, you can see size of their personalities with all of that in the same way walz has for his family, you can see how much affection there is in that family. and from the standpoint of political communication, if you're trying to help people understand who she is, the
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recitation/biography only gets you so far. it's the telling moments that give you insight into who these people are. and i thought his story, which she had written about in her autobiography, but him telling the story of their first meeting so charmingly. he puts the final sting in the tail saying she plays the voice mail back to him every anniversary. i think that tells you an awful lot about them as a couple. there's a playfulness to that. there's a kind of razzing kind of quality to it. and they clearly are just head over heals for each other. that gives you a window into what kind of spouse and partner she is. that's really important as a political matter as well as a human matter. >> i want to play it. let me play it. i think there's something important they did for blended families all over the country as well. let's play it. we'll talk about that next. >> she finds joy in pursuing
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justice. she stands up to bullies just like my parents taught me to. and she likes to see people do well but hates when they're treated unfairly. she believes this work requires a basic curiosity in just how people are doing. her empathy is her strength. >> i thought that doug's speech as well as ella's and cole's participation were really important. stepparents have all the skin in the game, john. >> 100%. i thought the way he talked about his divorce, half the people in the country are divorced. the way he talked about it in this matter of fact way, the fact he still has this relationship. his ex-wife was there at the convention rooting him on. just the kind of obvious health of that whole blended family situation, which is so familiar to so many people. their health, their perspective
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on it. it all just seems very modern. and i think that also answers the cause to have the family look at them and go, that's america today. >> yeah. amy and john, thank you so much for spending this hour with us. really appreciate both of you. another break for us. we'll be right back. both of you. another break for us we'll be right back. with usps ground advantage®. ♪♪ ok limu! you set it, and as i spike it, i'll tell them how liberty mutual customizes car insurance, so they only pay for what they need. got it? [squawks] did you get that? only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty,♪ ♪liberty, liberty.♪ i love that my daughter still needs me. but sometimes i can't help due to burning and stabbing pain in my hands, so i use nervive. nervive's clinical dose of ala reduces nerve discomfort in as little as seven days. now i can help again feel the difference with nervive. what the biggest companies deliver is exceptional customer experience. what makes it possible is unmatched connectivity
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