we have one of the lowest turn out in the state. it continues to be, be there for my constituents, keep working for the issues that matters. >> state representative of georgia. really, really appreciate you making time for us tonight. >> thanks for having me. scan the qr code on your screen because there are only a few tickets left to come and see me and rachel maddow and a whole bunch of your favorite msnb hosts in brooklyn on saturday september 7th for msnbc live september 2024. i will be introduced scholar, the one and only kate shaw who also happens to be my wife. we'll be talking about the court, election and scope of presidential power. you don't want to miss it. that is all in for this week. alex wagner starts right now. >> does that count as a date. >> that's a great question. i actually told her today. the amount of minutes. she said that's pretty quick.

well, you know. >> maybe lunch after. >> we'll talk later. >> maybe lunch after. i'm just putting that out there. because i'll be there too. >> great work this week, seriously. you were awesome. it was great having you there. >> you were awesome too, thank you for saying that. all right it feels like this week must have been a tough one for donald trump. at trump's convention the main star power was hulk hogan and chris rock. at the dnc there was pink, john legend, eva longoria, steve kerr, common, patti labell, little john, sean austin, spike lee, keenan thompson, dl hughley. mark hammel and oprah winfrey. the dnc was so star studded

that the organizers could afford to bump james taylor entirely, just cancel him for the sake of time. but what really probably made this week tough for donald trump were the ratings. not only did the dnc, have more viewers than the rnc. crowd, crowd size, celebrity, ratings, in terms of all that, the dnc destroyed the rnc. but the dnc also accomplished something more substantive and arguably a lot more important. democrats reclaimed what it means to be a real american from the republican party.

>> look, kamala knows like we do, that regardless of where you come from, what you look like, who you love, who you worship or what's in your bank account, we all deserve the opportunity to build a decent life. all of our contributions deserve to be accepted and valued. because no one has a monopoly on what it means to be an american. no one. >> looking around you saw the sign posts of patriotism and you saw them everywhere. camo hats. a football team came on stage. there was a drum line. the chicks sang the national anthem. there were stadium chants of

usa, usa. and it was all coming from democrats. democrats made the pitch that patriotism is a democratic value, as in a value of the democratic party. and equally as important, democrats reclaimed family values as democratic values. remember that trump's running mate jd vance had been trying to make family values into a wedge issue in the election. vance claims the democratic party is led by childless cat ladies and that the left is a place where families are demeaned and diminished. democrats wanted to show that vance is wrong. and they did that. democrats reclaimed it. >> in minnesota, we respect our neighbors and the personal choices they make.

even if we wouldn't make those same choices for ourselves, we have a golden rule. mind your own dam business. our and that includes, ivf and fertility treatments. this is personal for gwen and i. if you've never experienced the hell that is infertility i guarantee you you know somebody who has. and i can remember, praying each night for a phone call. the pit in your stomach, when the phone had rang and the absolute agony when we heard the treatments hadn 't worked. it took gwen and i years but we had access to fertility treatment and when our daughter was born we named her hope. hope, gus and gwen you are my

entire world. and i love you. >> maybe one of the most powerful moments of this week was seeing the family of harris' running mate walz weeping with pride while watching walz speak. walz was only able to have his daughter hope because of fertility treatments and walz was proud of both of those facts. mean while kamala harris took on the notion of family values by expanding what it means to be a family. >> my mother, she worked long hours. and like many working parents, she leaned on a trusted circle to help raise us. mrs. shelton who ran the child care below us and became a second mother. uncle sherman, aunt mary, none

of them family by blood and all of them family by love. family who taught us how to make gumbo. how to play chess, and sometimes everyone let us win. family who loved with us. believed in us. and told us we could be anything and do anything. >> this week at the dnc, harris had her whole chosen family there to show support. her god children spoke at the dnc. her stepdaughter spoke while proudly baring her tattoos i might add. harris' husband was dorky and supportive and so proud. emphasizing how much kamala harris has embraced his kids as part of their big blended family. >> she was on the phone and of course my mind went to all the potential crisis that the vice

president could be dealing with. was it domestic, was it foreign, was it campaign, i could see she was focused. and all i knew was that it must be something important. and it turns out it was. ella had called her. that's kamala. that's kamala. those kids are her priorities and that scene was a perfect map of her heart. >> reporter: not only was doug emhoff's ex-wife at the dnc as a proud member of harris's extended family. emhoff produced the family which was all about how emhoff and harris fell in love. that kind of big diverse family is what a lot of american families are today. and that big diverse family is

also what the democratic party is today. >> on behalf of the people, on behalf of every american regardless of party, race, gender or the language a grandmother speaks. on behalf of my mother and everyone who has ever set out on their own unlikely journey. on behalf of americans like the people i grew up with, people who work hard, chase their dreams, and look out for one another. on behalf of everyone who's story could only be written in the greatest nation on earth. i accept your nomination to be

president of the united states of america. joining me now is charles coleman, the road to 2024, and alexis miguel johnson, president of the planned parenthood action fund. it is great to have both of you. alexa you were on the stage in chicago. we just layed out the ways the democratic party has reframed a lot of the debates but one of the things were sow interested. but one of the things we thought was so interesting is family values. there was no hesitation. there was a firm belief you can be pro-choice, believing in bodily autonomy and also being

profamily. >> absolutely. the way the vice president has taken on the mantle and started the conversation about trusting women. that really illustrated for me what the political race she's establishing. what happens when you actually put women at the center of your policymaking and thinking? how does that expand when we think about health care. how does that expand how we think about care. how does that expand the way we think about taking care of our economy, our community. and it's such a great contrast. donald trump is happy to take away reproductive rights for 50% of the population and here she is centralling us. and it felt so good. >> women were centered in a lot of the, the arguments i guess that the democrats are making to the country about why they should support a democratic ticket. men were part of that conversation too, in a way that

we haven't seen i wonder what you made of the way of masculinity, a different kind of masculinity was part of the proceedings too. right. you had a football coach out there who's talking about infertilities as well. and, you've had one already, but bill clinton who was running to be first gentleman. >> and drawing contrast and

making more inclusive definitions of masculinity very apparent and putting that on display. when you look at the republican national convention, they're looking back. and the dnc has figured out that they have a bigger opportunity. it's not going to resinate with everyone but getting their base energized and involving and making more supporters, they think it's going to pay off big

in november. >> and trump today said that he was a leader in reproduction rights. and we all laughed. >> created an abortion ban. >> how do you square that particular circle he's drawing? >> i don't even know what kind of. doesn't resinate. doesn't make sense to me because this is still the same man that bragged about overturning roe v. wade the popular decision that went back to the states. none of it made sense. and i think what kamala harris did is a frame. he is a deeply fearful man. he understands that they have failed, they've failed us around reproductive freedomless. and we're seeing registrations

increase significantly among women, among women in vance states that are hitting net positive to the democrats and the reason is because we're making, you know we understand, right. what it means to not be able to make a decision if when and how you become president. - and how you become pregnant. and he has the decision on that. >> when you talk about the decisions that some people may not be ready for. gender roles and norms that might be expanded as we saw at the dnc. i wonder how you talk about the dynamics. there's the barack obama, michelle obama dynamic. michelle the first lady, the former first lady speech was

more combative. more fired up. his was a meditation on what it means to be an american. and in that way it was kind of a shift of the traditional quote unquote, if we're talking about traditional warrior roles for men and women, how you think that played. >> i think that the motion of introducing new constructs of masculinity, it's fine to embrace. and i think it's not necessarily going to alienate a significant part of the base. so long as, and i think the dnc did a good job here, you are not necessarily pushing people aside or making them feel wrong for how they show up. if it's inclusive, it needs to be inclusive for everyone. so i think, to that point, one of the strongest and more powerful moments for tim walz was when his former players came on stage. because now, you have essentially a group of jocks. a high school football team, super masculine, coming up. these guys were not in suits and ties. they were beer belly, jersey, coming on stage and they were

welcomed. and i think that was a very important sight in terms of letting people know, look, you can fit in here too. i think the demographic that i'm talking about that's often turned off, they are vilified for showing up as they are. and that is something that donald trump has been able to appeal to. so there's a tight rope that the dnc walked here. i think they did a good job about it. you don't necessarily have to call it out all the time. you show up with your actions and the way they showed it, i think ultimately did not turn people off. >> yeah, i think actually the football metaphors in the governor's speech, the drum line, the flags everywhere. i think multiple nights that said usa, usa, usa. none of that is by chance. that was all very, very intentional. and that goes to what charles is talking about alexis, reclaiming all these freedoms under the banner of patriotism. >> and you could feel that. we were there. you could feel the energy.

you could feel the pride right. i also think it's a function of none of that felt poll tested to me. it all felt authentic and true from the top of the ticket all the way down. you could feel just a sense of sincerity, we're not going to hide who we are. this can manifest in the convention center. that's the joy people can do. we don't have to hide, we don't have to code switch because we don't think the rest of america is going to. along with the beautiful metaphor of moving the ball forward. not going back. moving the ball forward and claiming and being proud of the progress we have made. that to me i think is the most patriotic you can be. >> and leaving the poll open.

>> thank you so much for spending a little bit of your time on this friday evening. i appreciate both of you tonight. we have what could happen, the jd vance version of glazed and confused coming up. another presidential candidate just fell out of the race. we're going to speak with liz smith the communications advisor on third party candidates. that's next. ahh, yellow! didn't pass the tissue test? buckle up! whoa! there's toothpaste white, and there's crest 3dwhitestrips white. whitens like a 400 dollar professional treatment. pilot: prepare for non-stop smiles. crest.

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i want everyone to know that i am not terminating my campaign. i am simply suspending it and not, not ending it. i encourage you to vote for me. and if enough of you do vote for me and neither of the major party candidates win, i could conceivably still end up in the white house. >> robert f. kennedy jr. suspended his campaign this afternoon with a rambling speech in which he kept his options open. but he also endorsed donald trump saying trump was the only person who shared kennedy's concerns about free speech and the war in ukraine and the alleged war on american children. >> these are the principle

causes that persuaded my to leave the democratic party and run as an independent. and now, to throw my support to president trump. >> hours after suspending his campaign, kennedy appeared with donald trump at rally in phoenix, arizona this evening. >> tonight i'm very pleased to welcome a man who has been an incredible champion for so many of these values that we all share and we've shared them for a long time. robert f. kennedy jr. >> democratic strategist and communications advisor to the dnc on third party candidates. thank you for being here. i am looking forward to talking to you about the strange phenomenon of kennedy. >> weird from the beginning, straight through the end.

i think there's a lot of conversation. is this going to have a big impact on the race, right. and i don't think it is. that's because, rfk jr. is essentially at rock bottom right now. and that's why he's dropping out. he went from being the third party independent candidate who seemed like the most forbidable one since ross perot. i don't see him bringing much benefit to donald trump here. one quick point i want to make. from the beginning democrats have said we want a binary choice. we want as close to a head to head raise as we can. because we know trump's ceiling is 46, 47. when you have more candidates in the race it makes it easier to win with over 50%. we know kamala harris has more of a chance to get to 50% than

donald trump does. >> whatever that is, endorsement of trump may not make a meaningful difference in the head to head match up between harris and trump but i do want to get to that in a second. he still thinks he's kind of in the race. do you understand him. he's saying basically, if you vote for me in a red state or a blue state, that's not going to hurt or help, kamala harris or donald trump so go ahead and do that. i'm just pulling away from the main states. do you understand that. >> i don't. i was watching with our very talented third party independent team and we were all completely perplexed. we've never seen anything like this but for all intents and purposes, he's out. >> he's out. >> he's suspending his campaign. maybe this is to make him feel a little better. make him feel a little bit better at home. >> you seem very confident in

his nonfactor. walk me through how you guys are looking at the numbers. >> when he started in the race he was maybe high teens. and once kamala harris got out of the race we've seen the numbers fall even more precipitously. let me also give some credit to my team here. this amazing team headed by democratic legend mary beth kayhill. ramsey reed has been very much dedicated to informing biden 2020. democratic voters everything about rfk jr. and why they should not support him. and so we were very, very successful in driving his negatives up over the course of the campaign. when we started he was at plus 14 positive. he's now at negative 21.

>> wow. >> yeah, and so so that's why we think he is a nonfactor. and you add the fact that kamala harris got in the race and a lot of the voters who were a little wishy washy about biden, they came back in the democratic fault. so that's when you saw his numbers plummet even more. >> you talked about the work you did to increase the negatives of rfk. what was the most harmful. there was the bear cub at central park, the brain worm, the conspiracy. >> i've seen a lot of apo, i've seen a lot of crazy stories during my career nothing, nothing compares to this. this is the thing, you've only

seen, you haven't seen everything reported out publicly. i'll just put it that way. but the most impactful things i would say is this. early on in the race we found that with biden 2020 voters. democratic voters the thing that moved them the most is understanding that rfk jr. was recruited by maga republicans like steve bannon. propped up with trump's bohner's contributions. the first was we're being winghood here. the second is he down played the importance of january 6th and said he would be willing to pardon the rioters.

we didn't really care to drive down his support among you know republican leaning voters. we were there to do one job. on top of all of that you had that like litany of really bizarre things happened. and you know, the idea that anyone is going to elect to the presidency someone who staged a bike accident with a dead bear cub in central park. setting off a media, public safety fire storm. like i remember that from a decade ago. it was this big new york mystery. and oh my god it was the scion of the biggest american political family. that is just so weird. >> this is the thing with trump. >> trump and vance are being tagged as the weird ticket. how is bringing on rfk jr. who i think is easily the weirdest political candidate presidential candidate in recent memory. how is that going to help them shake that reputation of being

super weird. >> the weird quotion just went through the roof. thank you for sharing all that with us tonight. still ahead this evening, has fox news finally had enough of donald trump. i know, i know what you think. but just stick around. i'm going to talk to tim miller about just that coming up. but first, kamala harris used her acceptance speech last night to define herself and her policy proposals but not too much. i'm going to talk to senator bernie sanders, chief political analyst about political vagary, that's coming up.

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c1 last night vice president kamala harris addressed one of the most fractious topics, the war in gaza. she added that she will always support the people of israel. >> the people of israel should never again face the horrors that hamas caused on october 7th. >> but harris also condemned the past 10 months of deadly violence that has killed over 40,000 palestinians. >> so many innocent lives lost.

desperate, hungry people fleeing for safety over and over again. president biden and i are working to end this war. such that israel is secure, the hostages are released. the suffering in gaza ends and the palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self- determination. >> with 74 days left to go before the election, kamala harris is addressing concerns but without getting too specific. as jerusalem looks for rights, vagueness is political useful. joining us fas. i know there's a lot of glow rightfully so in the wake of the dnc. i do wonder how you think the vice president tphaá navigated

one of the most divisive issues, the war in gaza. as we just heard it. >> she did it well. she's saying give me a chance to address concerns that you might have about middle east policy situation. given that i'm the vice president to the president who i support, it is on a certain path. and, i think for those of us who wanted more accountability over netanyahu and his right wing coalition she gave you enough to say, hey, i might, give me an opportunity i might give more accountability about the horrific things going on in gaza. the tactful on this campaign has been wonderful. i'm heartened to see it. i wish the election were tomorrow because it is great. unfortunately it's not.

in two weeks, she will have the first debate against trump and that may have an impact on november. >> there were no palestinian voices. what do you think about that. >> i would have given a good platform to someone who shares your views. i also believe at the end of the day, if not the fact that you need a particular voice, you need a policy change. it's more important to me what she's saying about the issue. i think that, quite frankly the family that had their hostage son taken by hamas was so wonderful. the policy direction that they are espousing. we also want gazans to end free and end this with a cease-fire. i think it hit the mark on the

policy we want. >> aside from gaza, harris is laying out some policy including taking on housing cost, price gougers. the nuts and bolts specificity made sense. keep the momentum going. but do you at all, are you at all concerned that there seems to be a little bit of wish casting from both progressive and centrist. that like everybody thinks she's their person. do you think if she wins that could actually end up being problematic for the party, or no? >> the way i would answer that alex is we are in a very good place right now. and after labor day, after the first, at that presidential debate, a bunch of people i think 5 to 7% undecided people come into the electoral and they will essentially determined who's going to win this race. as good as we feel now, i do

think that there's this lingering issue of where at the end of the day people who haven't decided are going to fall. and when i think about them, to the issue of policy vagary, it's fine to have build a coalition that allows the most people in. on the economic justice issues, on tackling corporate greed and corporate accountability, corporate abuse that she has been mentioning, this issue is the number one issue of those voters who are going to come online in those last few weeks. the economy if we think about, the day after the election, if donald trump were to win god forbid we don't want that to happen. if he were to win how would he win. the only answer is he somehow convinces people that the economy is terrible. put me back in charge, the economy is better when i was president. nonsense. the fact that he's saying, here

is 2025, but also i got your back. my working class roots are going to propel me to take on a structure that i don't believe works for workers. doesn't work for small businesses or the economy right now. >> fas, you said last time you were on the program you wanted to hear the vice president get more into the economy and policy. so she is listening. >> if you want to win, this is the issue. this is where people are at. yeah. >> thank you for spending part of your friday night with me my friend. >> thank you. coming up republicans are trying hard to shed the weird label and then jd vance walked into a georgia donut shop and things got a lot weirder. we're going to have more on that after the break.

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pit stops on the campaign trail, people are excited to see the political candidate, but that is not how it went for jd vance yesterday when he walked into a donut shop in valdosta, georgia. it was an awkward beginning, but hey there was still a chance for him to turn it around and make eye contact and try to have his folksy charm. >> we are going to do two dozen. >> okay. >> yeah. just a random assortment of stuff here. how long have you worked here? >> i have been here since the beginning of july. >> okay. >> of this year. >> okay. good. how about you sir? >> almost 2 years. >> okay. just everything, yeah, i mean a lot of glazed here, this sprinkle stuff, some of these cinnamon rolls. how long has this place been around? >> about four years. >> okay. how long have you been here? >> a little over six months. >> okay, good.

yes, when we selected this place, i didn't know if it had been here for 20 years or four years or anything, you never know. >> you never know. is perhaps the oldest trick in the book for a political campaign to deploy its candidate to a diner or a donut shop or wherever it is to make it seem like the candidate is one with the people and to shake some hands and kissing babies and order a few donut to make them seem available and normal, but normal does not appear to be in jd vance's wheelhouse. but if you would like a lesson in how this kind of campaign stop should be done, here is kamala harris's running mate stopping in at a fast food restaurant in nebraska last weekend. >> sorry to hold things up for you. we really -- >> just kidding. amazing. amazing. oh my gosh it's amazing. i'm from here. right here. >> how are you doing. >> did you really? that's so, i'm glad -- there is

now. there is now. >> nice to meet you. -- >> we are not going to nebraska without stopping to get -- >> i think it is the bread consistency. >> they are homemade everyday. >> get this guy on tv. thank you for the work you are doing. it matters. appreciate it. pleasure to meet everybody. >> of the trump campaign had an issue with the jd vance and the weird label before kamala harris picks tim walz, that problem is supersized now that tim walz is giving jd vance's weird such a harsh, arch contrast. were in all things republican and weird with my friend tim miller. stay with us. (granddaughter laughing) vapofreeze your pain away.

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unfairly by the democrats. he would have beaten joe biden in a democrat primary. i have no doubt about it and they made it exactly impossible for him. i made it were had to get 60 to 70% of the vote just to get in. you know what? in the end of the democrats did the same thing to joe biden. they threw joe biden out of the party. >> mr. president, thank you so much for the time. we appreciate the feedback. >> not even the hosts of fox news last night had an appetite for stream of consciousness donald crump, which i guess begs the question does anyone right now. joining me is tim miller, writer and cohost of the "next level" podcast. tim, when you lose fox news, who have you got left? what you make of drums behavior last night? >> i was watching that live waiting to go on with jim late night after kamala's amazing

speak, and even their face, it is like at christmas when you are trying to get home and you are trying to go see your friends for a drink after christmas with the family and your uncle won't stop talking to you and is just shouting in your ear. like all right, all right, all right. he is struggling. he is obviously triggered. he sent i think 30 bleeps last night everything from tim walz to being an assistant coach to hunter biden to how pretty kamala is. he is really flustered and struggling and you could see it last night with a call in after the speech. >> the trump-vance ticket is not getting any better in terms of its prospects. we played that's out of jd vance in a donut shop in valdosta georgia and a shot of tim walz in nebraska, and the contrast in which the way in which these two individuals interfaced with working-class americans is shocking. when you think, i mean, when you think the entry of walz dusted jd vance's credibility with the workingman?

>> it is tough. i hated that you made me watch that whole donut shop video. i was suffering from vicarious impairments -- embarrassment for jd. he is an uncomfortable guy. i think the walz pick provides this striking contrast when it comes to who can authentically speak to working people's concerns. jd vance is his pick where donald trump's kid told him, this guy is really good with working people. they like him. he wrote that book. the reality was it was mostly new york liberals that read jd vance's book back in the day. it wasn't working-class people. jd vance left his town and went to yale and went to become avc. he's not one of them. it is not natural. it does not come naturally to him. i think that with walz on the ticket, like , that fakeness and that failure to be an authentic representative of working people has really been accentuated.

>> i just, i feel like, you know, if the trump campaign could operate with someone at the top of the ticket who had a bit of self-control, there is a way they could kind of try to take them out of this, but instead the democrats make this big, you know, boisterous argument for inclusion, patriotism america, and normalcy, and how does trump respond? by going on fox, writing about hunter biden all the things that you said, making himself seem even more fringe and more self-involved, and here now we have this viral video of his writing make acting like a complete weirdo in a donut shop unable to actually put in an order for 24 donuts. how much do you think the entry the democrats made to the republicans over the course of the dnc are going to win over republican votes? >> i thought it was a great start. i thought that the medics, the tributes to patriotism, the substance, also. like on foreign-policy, i think that kamala reassured a lot of nikki haley voters that do not know a lot about her policy.

i think both in substance and style they hit the mark in reaching this swing group last night. trump is just not capable of doing what he needs to do to win those conservative swing voters back, which is be disciplined about painting kamala as far left , right? and he is just not able to do that. he is going to lash out and be personal instead. >> and get kicked off of fox news. this is where we are at now. tim miller pick it is always great to get your perspective, my friend. thank you for your time tonight. that is our show for this evening. a programming note before we go, two weeks from tomorrow on september 7, you can attend msnbc live democracy 2024, our premier fan event in brooklyn, new york. is in prison interactive experience will offer insight perspectives from some of your favorite hosts and msnbc personalities , as we approach the apex of the 2024 election. siena qr code on your screen to buy your tickets today.

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