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and tomorrow, saturdays at 11:00 p.m. right here on msnbc. it has been quite a week. i love spending it with you but for now i am signing off. wishing a good night from all of my colleagues. i will see you at the end of monday. it feels like this week must have been a tough one for donald trump and trump's national convention the main star power was hulk hogan and kid rock. a this week's democratic national convention there was pink, john legend, the chicks, stevie wonder, av alongoria. steve kerr, tony goldwyn, common, patty labelle, little jon, spikily, kerry washington,

dl huely. mark hamil and oprah winfrey. the dnc was so star-studded that the organizers could afford to bump james taylor entirely, just cancel him for the sake of time. but what really probably made this week tough were the ratings. not only did the dnc outperform in ratings every single night but harris'acceptance speech had 3 million more than the rnc acceptance speech. in terms of all of the things that donald trump cares about, pretty super official, crowd, crowd size, celebrity, ratings, in terms of all of that, the dnc destroyed the rnc. but it also accomplished something more important. democrats reclaim whrad it means to be a real american

from the republican party. >> look, kamala knows like we do, we all deserve the opportunity to build a descent life all of our contributions deserve to be accepted and valued. because no one has a monmon monopoly on what it means to be an american. no one. >> patriotism and you saw them everywhere. cowboy hats and camo hats and the american flag just everywhere. a football team came on stage. there was a drum line, the chicks sang the national

anthem. there were stadium chants of usa! usa! it was all coming from democrats. democrats made the pitch that patriotism is a democratic value as in a value of the democratic party. equally as important democrats reclaimed family values as democratic values. remember, that trump's runningmate j.d. vance was trying to make family values in a wedge. vance claims it is led by childless cat ladies and the left is where parents are demeaned and diminished. factually advances wrong and they proved that. rather than running from the traditionally conservative relm of family values democrats reclaimed it. >> in minnesota we respect our

neighbors and the personal choices they make. and even if we wouldn't make those same choices for ourselves we got a golden rule, mind your own business. [ cheers and applause ] our own [ cheers and applause ] and that includes ivf and fertility treatments, and this is personal for gwen and i. if you never experienced the hell that is infertility i guarantee you that you know somebody that has. i can remember praying each night for a phone call. the pit in your stomach when the phone would ring and the salute agony when we heard the treatments had not worked. it took gwen and i years but we had access to fertility treatments and when our daughter was born, we named her

hope. hope, gus, gwen you are my entire world and i love you. >> one of the most powerful moments of this week was seeing the family of harris' runningmate weeping with pride while watching walz speak. his son is neurodivergent and hope was only able because of fertility treatment and walz is proud of both of the facts. meanwhile, harris took on family values by expanding what it means to be a family. >> my mother she worked long hours and like many working parents she leaned on a trusted circle to help raise us. mrs. shelton, who ran the daycare below us and became a second mother, uncle sherman, aunt mary, uncle freddie,

auntie chris. none of them family by blood and all of them family by love. family who taught us how to make gumbo, how to play chess and sometimes even let us win. family who loved us, believed in us, and told us we could be anything and do anything. >> this week at the dnc harris had her whole chosen family there to show support. her god children spoke at the dnc, her stepdaughter spoke while proudly bearing her tattoos i might ad, her husband emhoff was dorky and supportive and so proud emphasizing how much kamala harris has embraced his kids as a big part of their

blended family. >> she was on the phone. my mind went to all of the potential crisis that the voice president could be dealing with, was it domestic? was it foreign? was it campaign? i could see she was focused and all i knew was that it must be something important. and it turns out it was. ella had called her. that is kamala. those kids are her priorities and that scene was a perfect map of her heart. >> not only was doug emhoff's ex-wife there at the dnc, his ex-wife produced the video that ran before her ex-husband's speech all about how emhoff and harris fell in love. that kind of big diverse family is what a lot of american families are today.

that big diverse family is also what the democratic party is today. >> on behalf of the people, on behalf of every american regardless of party, race, gender or the language your grandmother speaks, on behalf of my mother and everyone who has ever set out on their own unlikely journey, on behalf of americans like the people i grew up with, people who work hard, chase their dreams and look out for one another. on behalf of everyone who's story could only be written in the greatest nation on earth. i accept your nomination to be

president of the united states of america. [ cheers and applause ] of america. [ cheers and applause ] . >> joining me now is msnbc analyst, black men in america the road to 2024 and alexis, president of the planned parenthood action fund. it is great to have you here. you were on the stage in chicago. >> we laid out the ways that the democratic party reframed a lot of the debates. one of the things that i thought was interesting is reproductive choice was a theme returned to again and again and again as were family values, a time in which i think the democratic party would have been maybe not talking about tackling abortion and reframe traditional family values at the same time. there was no hesitation. >> none. >> there was a firm belief that you can be pro-choice,

believing in bodily atonomy and being pro-family. >> absolutely. right? i think the way in which the vice president has now taken on the mantle, right, and reframed the conversation to be one about trusting women, right? that really illustrated for me what the political project is that she is advancing. it is a multi-regional feminist democracy that means what happens when you actually put women at the center of your policy-making and thinking. how does that expand how we think about health care, expand about care, our economy, our communities, right? it is such a great contrast. donald trump, you know, proud of taking away 50% -- you know, reproductive rights for 50% of the population and she is centering us and it feels so good. >> all of it worked seamlessly. charles, alexis points out that women were centered in a lot of the arguments i guess you can say the democrats are making

about why they should support a democratic ticket. men were part of that conversation in a way that we have not seen. i wonder what you made of the way in which masculinity was the, redefinition of a different kind of masculinity was part of the proceedings, too. a football coach out there talking about infertility struggles. you had the nation's first, you know, well, guys second, bill clinton had been president before, the first guy normal guy to be running to be the first gentleman in doug emhoff and tim walz a vice president to a potential president who would be a woman. what did you think of the masculinity presented by democrats on stage this week? >> reporter: alex, i think alexis hit the nail on the head when she used the word "contrast" it is clear that the dnc was intentional on drawing

contrast and making more inclusive definitions of the masculinity apparent and putting that on center stage literally and figuratively. it is clear if you look at the rnc for example. they are a backward looking organization in how they are trying to cling to certain traditional constructs around masculinity and the dnc and the calculus, figuring out how they can attract a greater number of people if they expand definitions and the way we think about the concepts. it is a tricky line. it will not resinate with everyone. as far as getting their base energized and particularly involving and engaging new voters it is something that is consistent with what we are seeing out in popular culture. and then thinking it is going to pay off big dividends for them in november. >> i want you to come back with who that is not going to resinate with. before we do that, alexis, trump, i think it was today,

claims to be a leader. my administration will be great for women and their reproductive rights. we laugh because of what he did to the supreme court and over hurricane turned the dobbs but there is a part that does not believe that trump will end a woman's right to choose. >> right. >> right. exactly. and i wonder, and i wonder how do you square that particular circle that he is drawing? >> i don't even know what kind of -- what kind of shape he is, it does not make sense to me because, this is still the same man that bragged about overturning roe v. wade, you know, the decision that went back to the states. none of it makes sense. i think what harris did last night in her speech, you know, really to me was the right frame. he is an undeeply serious man. he understands his party is losing because they have

failed, they failed us around reproductive freedom and we are seeing registrations increase significantly among women, among women in banned states hitting positive to the democrats, the reason is that we are making, you know, we understand, right? what it means to not be able to make a decision if and how to become pregnant and what it means for our lives and futures. i think, you know, he is going to continue to do the things, we have the receipts. >> charles, when you talk about some of the dynamics people might not be ready for. gender and roles expanded and talking about the dynamic on stage. emhoff and barack obama and michelle obama. many ways michelle is the first lady the former first lady's speech was the more kind of

combative. it was the more emotionally- fired up. his was kind of a meditation on what it means to be an american. in that way it was a shift of the traditional quote unquote if we are talking about warrior roles for men and women how you think that played? >> reporter: you know, i think that the in addition of introducing new constructs of masculinity is fine to embrace and it is not necessarily going to allienate part of the base as if you are not pushing them aside or feeling wrong for how they show up. if it is inclusive it needs to be inclusive to everyone. to that point one of the strongest and powerful moments for tim walz is when his former players came on stage. now you have essentially a group of jocks, high school football team super masculine, coming up, these guys not in

suits, ties, beer bellies, jerseys, coming on stage and they were welcomed. and i think that was a very important sight in terms of letting people know you can fit in here, too. the demographic that i am talking about that is often turned off they are vilified for showing up as they are. that is something trump has been able to appeal to. there is a tight rope the dnc walked here. i think they did a good job about it. you don't have to call it out all of the time. you show it with your actions and the way they showed it did not turn people off. >> i thought the football, the football met fors in the governor's speech, the football players, the drumline, i was on the floor. flags everywhere. multiple nights signs usa, usa, none of that is by chance. that was all very, very intentional. that goes to what charles is talking about, reclaiming all of the freedoms under patriot.

>> yes and you can feel it. you can feel the energy and the pride, right? i thinking it is, it is a function of none of that felt poll tested to me. it felt authentic and true from the top of the ticket all of the way down. you can just feel a sense of sincerity. this is who we are. we are not going to hide who we are. this is what it actually, there is what belonging manifests in a convention center. i think that is the joy that people are feeling. we don't have to hide who we are. we don't have to code switch because we think, you know, the rest of america is not going to love us and value us. we are going to do it every day in communities. we around stand we are on the right side of this. and i think that, along with just the beautiful metaphor of just moving the ball forward, right? not going back, moving it forward and claiming and being proud of the progress that we have made. that to me it is the most

patriotic piece. >> and leaving a tent flap open. >> yes. >> alexis and charles, thank you very much for spending a little time on your friday night with me. appreciate you. we have much more ahead tonight including what happens when a vice presidential candidate and camera crew walk into a donut shop. the jd version of glazed and confused is coming up. first, another presidential candidate just dropped out of the race. who is it going to help? i will speak to liz smith on third-party candidates, that is next smith on third-party candidates, that is next ery! jessie loves playing detective. but the real mystery was her irritated skin. so, we switched to tide free & gentle. it cleans better, and doesn't leave behind irritating residues. and it's gentle on her skin. tide free and gentle liquid is epa safer choice certified. it's gotta be tide. a test or approve a medication. we didn't have to worry about any of those things thanks to the donations. and our family is forever grateful because it's completely changed our lives.

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. i want everybody to know i am not terminating my campaign. i am simply suspending it and not ending it. i encourage you to vote for me. if enough of you vote for me and neither of the major party candidates win 270 vote which is is quite possible i could still end up in the white house. >> robert f kennedy junior suspending his campaign but he also endorsed trump, trump was the only person who shared kennedy's concerns about free speech and the war in ukraine and the alleged war on american children. >> principal causes that

persuaded me to leave the democratic party. and run as an independent and now to throw my support to president trump. >> hours after suspending his campaign kennedy appeared with donald trump at a rally in phoenix, arizona this evening. >> tonight, i am pleased to welcome a man who has been an incredible champion for so many of the values that we all share and we have shared them for a long time. robert f. kennedy, jr. >> reporter: now, liz smith, thank you for being here. i have been eager to talk to you about the phenomenal, the, first of all, i still might be president but i am throwing my support behind trump? >> weird from the beginning

straight through the end. and, you know, there is a lot of conversation is it going to have a big impact on the race, right? i don't think it is. that is because rfk junior is at rock bottom that is why he is dropping out. third party independent candidate that seemed like the most forbiddable one since ross perot, he is more of a punch line on late night shows thatten he is seen as a serious political figure. i don't see him bringing much, much benefit to donald trump here. just one quick point i want to make, from the beginning democrats said we want a bionary choice, we want it head- to-head. we know his creeling is 46% and 47. when you have more candidates in the race it makes it easier to win under 50% and we know that she has a better chance of

getting to 50% than trump does. >> i guess what i am trying to understand is, he may not -- whatever that is endorsement of trump may not make a meaningful difference between hairis and trump but i want to get it in for a second. he still thinks he is kind of in the race. he is saying basically if you vote for me in a red state or a blue state it will not hurt or help harris or trump. go ahead and do that. i am pulling out in the battleground states. i don't understand the basics of what transpired today. >> i don't. i was watching with our very talented third party and pendant team and we were all completely perplexed. never seen anything like this. for all intense and purposes he is out. he is suspending his campaign. maybe the system making him feel better save face at home i don't know what it is. he will be a nonfactor. >> you seem confident.

there is some polling across battleground states, arses airs, georgia, nevada this is the overall. trump at 44, harris at 43 and kennedy at 6%. that does not look like a nonfactor. >> when he started in the race he was high teens. and once kamala harris got on the race we have seen the numbers fall more and mary beth kay just said dnc ramsey read has been dedicated to informing biden 2020, democratic leading voters everything about rfk junior and why not to support him. we were successful of driving his negatives up.

he is now at negative 21. so, that is why we think he is a nonfactor. that and you add-on the fact that harris got in the race. a lot of the voters who were wishy-washy about joe biden and still looking for another alternative came back in the democratic fold. that is when you saw his numbers crater more. >> you talk about the work that you guys did to increase his negatives. so much weird stuff that has come out about rfk junior, the dead bear cub in central park, the brain worm, the september 11 trutherrism. what was most harmful. first were you there is another thing, another thing, another thing. is he singular in controversy and what of the controversies was most meaningful? >> i worked on a lot of big races i have seen a lot of crazy stories over the course of my career, nothing, nothing

compares to this. and this is the thing you only seen, you have not seen everything reported out publicly i will put it that way. but, the most impactful things i would say is this, early on in the race we found with biden 2020 voters democratic-leaning voters the thing that moved them the most was understanding that rfk junior was recruited by maga republicans like steve bannon and propped up with $25 million. and staffers saying their number one goal was defeating trump. that led democrats to say we are being hood winged here. the second thing, making him aware of his issue positions, sign a national abortion ban, downplayed jan 6 and open to pardoning january 6ers. on a whole host of other issues he was at odds with democrats. the number one goal was drive

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the reputation of being super weird. >> the weird quota shot through the roof. >> lis smith doing the work. thank you for sharing all of that with us. good to see you, lis. >> thanks for having me. has fox news had enough of donald trump? i know you know what you think, stick around i will talk about just that coming up. first, kamala harris used her speech to define herself and her policy proposals but not too much. i will talk to senator bernie sanders chief political advisory about the art of political vigory, coming up next bout the art of political vigory, coming up next that reach! ♪♪ making hard to reach. so easy! swiffer, [wow!] the mother of all cleans! ♪♪ hayden: the fact st. jude will take care of all this, this is what's keeping my baby girl alive. chelsea: it's everything for us. we wouldn't know what to do. we couldn't afford for our little girl to survive.

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. last nice vice president kamala harris addressed the war in gaza. she began by affirming her support for israel. >> i will always ensure israel can defend itself because the people of israel must never again face the horror that a terrorist organization called hamas caused on october 7th. >> but harris also condemned the past 10 months of deadly violence that killed over 40,000 palestinians. >> so many innocent lives lost. desperate, hungry people

fleeing for safety over and over again. president biden and i are working to end this war. such that israel is secure, hostages are released. the suffering in gaza ends and the palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self- determination ght to dignity, security, freedom and self determination . >> the store days left to go before the election harris is making a point of addressing democratic concerns but without getting too specific. as vagueness is politically useful. >> it is great to see you. i, i know there is a lot of glow rightfully so in the wake of the dn drrks. i wonder how you think the vice president navigated one of the most divisive parts in the

party as we played in the sound just now. >> she did it well. you can see that she is trying to indicate that give me a chance to address concerns that you might have about middle east policy situations. given that i am the vice president to the president who i support and it is on a certain path. she gave you a chance i might give more accountability as horrific things in gaza. and it has been wonderful and i am hardened to see it and i wish the election were tomorrow. if it were she would do great. we are two weeks out from the first debate between her and donald trump and it could be a game changer how the rest of the election cycle moves.

>> raising criticism pro- palestinians a chance to speak at the dnc. >> i understand, if i had to make the decision on behalf of bernie sanders i would have had a palestinian voice on there. i think you could of indicated your values and positioning with both, giving a good platform to someone who shares your views. that said, it is not the fact that you need a voice it is you need a policy change. more important to me what she is saying about the issue. frankly, the family talking about hostage son taken by hamas was so wonderful in the policy direction they were going. the thoughtfulness of them saying. our child has been taken we want them to come home and we want people in gaza to live free. i thought it hit the mark on

the policy we want. >> i wonder, separate and aside from gaza there seems to be, harris is laying out policy including taking on housing cost, going against price gougers, and the lack of, nuts and bolts, totally makes sense. congress would have to be involved, we are 75 days out, keep the momentum out. are you concerned there seems to be a little bit of wish casting for her actual specific economic vision here. everybody thinks that she is their person. do you think if she wins that could actually end up being a problem for the party or no? >> the way i would answer that alex we are in a good place right now. and after labor day, after the presidential debate a bunch of people, i think, by 5-7% undecided% come in. they will determine who is going to win this race. so as good as we feel now i

think that there is this lingering issue of where at the end of the day people who have not decided are going to fall. and when i think about them to the issue of policy vaguery. on the economic issues and corporate greed and corporate abuse she has been mentioning and getting heat for it from the business class and economic class which is fine in my view, get the heat for it. this issue is the number one issue of those voters who will come on line. the economy if we think about it the day after, if trump were to win, god for bid but how did he win? the only thing that i can think is he convinces people about the economy. the 2025 and tax cuts for billionaires and abolish department of education and go

down the litany of that side. and offer, i got you back. my middle class, working class roots are going to propell me to take on the corporate abuse and market structure that i don't believe works for workers ,does not work for small businesses or our economy right now. >> well, you said, last time you were on this program you wanted to hear the vice president get more into the economy policy so she is listening. >> if you want to win. coming up, republicans are trying hard to shed the weird label and then j.d. vance walk into a donut shop and things got weirder after the break and things got weirder after the break memory foam doesn't come close. get your best sleep guaranteed. save up to $1,000 during our labor day sale. visit purple.com or a store near you. you've got a pepto predicament, ace.

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see the political candidate. that is not how it went for j.d. vance yesterday when he walk into a donut shop in georgia. it was an awkward beginning but still a chance for him to turn it around to make eye contact and try out his charm. >> we are going to do two dozen. >> okay. >> yep. just a random assortment of stuff here. >> . >> almost two years >> okay. good. >> just everything? >> yeah. a lot of glaze here and sprinkle stuff. some of the cinnamon roles, whatever makes sense. >> how long has this place been around? >> about four years >> about four years. >> okay. how long have you been here?

>> okay. good. when we selected this place i did not know if it was here for 20 years or four years or, you never know. >> you never know. the oldest trick in the book for a political campaign to deploy the candidate to a diner or donut shop to make it seem like the candidate is one with the people and shake some hands kiss babies and make them seem relatably and normal. but normal does not appear to be in j.d. vance's wheel house. if you would like a lesson on how it should be done. here is kamala harris runningmate. >> sorry, to hold things up for you. we really came here to do a rally. >> amazing. amazing. >> my gosh. i am such a fan >> i am from here. i went to school right there.

>> did you really? >> yes.. there. >> did you really? >> yes.. . >> sorry to disrupt your day. >> we were not going to not stop here and get some. >> i think it is the bread. >> they are made here every day >> get this guy on tv. thanks for the work you are doing. it matters, appreciate it. thanks everybody, appreciate you all. >> wow. >> if the trump campaign had an issue with the j.d. vance and weird label before harris picked walz that problem is supericized now that tim walz is giving his weird such a harsh contrast. more on all things republican and weird with my friend tim miller, stay with us th my friem miller, stay with us

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the democrats. he would of beaten joe biden. they made it absolutely impossible for him. made it so you have to get 60 or 70% of the vote to get in. in the end the democrats did the same thing to joe biden. they threw joe biden out of the party. >> that is why we saw a different night. >> thank you very much, thank you very much. >> not even the host at fox news last night had an appetite for stream of consciousness donald trump begs the question does anyone right now? joining me is tim miller, writer at large and co-host of the next level podcast. when you lose fox news, who have you got left? what do you make of trump's behavior last night? >> i was watching that live waiting to go on with jen after kamala harris speech. even her face, their face, it

is like christmas when you are trying to get home, trying to go see your friends for a drink after christmas with the family and your uncle will not stop talking to you just shouting in your ear, all right issue all right, all right. it is, he is struggling. he was, he obviously is triggered. he sent 30 bleeps out about coach and how pretty, i don't know, he flustered does struggling and you can see it last night with that call in after the speech. >> the trump/vance ticket is not getting any better in terms of the prospects. we played that sound of j.d. vance inia donut shop and the sound of tim walz as a shop in nebraska the contrast in the way the two individuals inner face with working class americans is shocking. what do you think, what do you think walz does to vance and credibility to the workingman? >> it is tough. i hate it that you made me

watch the whole donut shop video. i was suffering from embarrassment, he is an uncomfortable. speaking to people's concerns. jd advances that pick and they like him, he wrote a book, it was not working class people and he left his town and you know went to yale and he is not, he does not, he is not one of them. not natural, it is not natural for him. i think it was walz on the ticket like that, like that fakeness and that failure to be a representative of working

people has really been shown. >> if the trump campaign can work with self-control there is a way to try to dig them out of this and they are talking about how does trump respond? going on fox ranting about hunter biden and all of the the things making himself seem more sort of self-involved and here, now, we have the viral video of his runningmate acting like a weirdo putting in an order for 24 donuts. >> how are they going to win over the republicans. >> i think it was a great start. the theme, the tributes to patriotism, just the, the substance, also on foreign policy i think that kamala harris reassured nikki haley voters that did not know about it. substance and style.

they really hit the mark in reaching the swing group last night. and, trump is just not capable of doing what he needs to do to win those conservative swing voters back. that is to be disciplined about painting kamal afar left. la far left >> and get kicked off of fox news. this is where we are. >> great to get your perspective my friend. that is our show for this evening. programming note, two weeks from tomorrow, september 7th attend msnbc live, democracy 2024, our fan event in brooklyn new york. this interactive experience will offer inside perspectives from your favorite hosts and personalities as we approach the apex. scan the qr code we approach the apex. scan the qr code