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welcome back, everybody to the weekend. after a whirlwind democratic convention, the harris-walz company is taking a few days to regroup, get themselves together, planning their first joint interview for the vice president before storming swing states around labor day. and harassing convention speech on thursday, vice president harris later just some of the policies that she will take on the campaign trail over the next 73 days.

>> when congress passes a bill to restore reproductive freedom , as president of the united dates, i will probably sign it into law. with respect to the war in gaza, president biden and i are working around the clock. because now is the time to get a hostage deal and a cease-fire deal done. as president, i will bring back the bipartisan border security bill that he killed and i will sign it into law. joining us now to get in this conversation off our michigan state senator valerie morrow and pennsylvania state representative, malcolm, the representative in the senate. >> good morning, good morning. you all were both gracing the stage of the democratic national convention this week, and, you know, i think it was indicative, frankly, that you are all, in fact, rising stars

within the democratic hardy apparatus. you all are hearing from people all across the country as well as within your state. representative, i will start with you. what are people saying, coming out of the heels of the dnc, particularly about the vice president and the policy that she put on the table? she gave a lot in that speech thursday night. >> she did, and i think, particularly, for our generation, one of the things that is sticking out is her focus on housing. you know, so many folks are paying their rent on time, every single month and yet are incapable of saving enough to get their piece of the american dream by that first home. a part of it is obviously supply- side, and so, i talk about a really bold plan for 3 million new homes in her first term, but also to help with $25,000 to help people pay that's down

payment, and of course, she-- >> i just think the representative froze, because he was giving us a good housing. the rent is still too high. i still feel broke. >> that is definitely what people are talking about, state senator i want you to take a listen to what the vice president had to say about trump's plot, the way in which he is attempting to buy for total power. >> donald trump tried to throw away your votes. when he failed, he sent an armed mob to the united states capitol, where they assaulted law enforcement officers. when politicians in his own party begged him to call off the mob, and send help, he did

the opposite. he fanned the flames. just imagine, donald trump, with no guardrails! and how you would use the immense powers of the presidency of the united states. >> saint state senator mcfarland, it reminds me of what will be one of the most indomitable images of this convention, which is you walking on page with that enormous finder from project 2025. i think that your arms have recovered from the heft of that thing because there are the policies from the harris-walz administration also standing in contrast with the policies of what would be a second trump term. >> i think that is absolutely right. there was a line in vice president harris's speech, where she said none of us can fail, for all of us to succeed, and i thought that was really

beautiful, and to your point, such a stark contrast from what we have seen out of donald trump, still trying to relitigate the 2020 election. this many years later. and my home state of michigan, we have been, i think it is at the center of the impact of this lie, this vicious lie that continues to this day, where we saw countless protesters to send on the dcf center in detroit, a ballot counting center, and you saw largely white republicans screaming in the faces of black poll workers, trying to make sure that every vote was counted. we had what i not so lovingly recurred refer to the trial run insurrection, here in michigan, where armed protesters came in to work capitol, literally above our heads in the senate. we were driven to the brink of collapse, and donald trump gets back into office with this supreme court ruling, with what is laid out in project 2025 i think the president did an expert job of relaying this to the serious it seriousness of

what was at stake. >> representative, i think that aspect of project 2025 and the tentacles that flow from it really go to what our government will look like, how our government will function on a day out basis that will pick back up on your point about housing, as an issue. there were other issues that have been pulled, that are part of the vice president's plan, her economic policies, do you-- you got poll showing support for harris expanding medicare price negotiations, 82% insulin costs. 78%. expand earned income tax credit, 73%, cap price increase on food and groceries, 65%. historic era child tax credit, 59%. $25,000 assistance to first-

time homebuyers picking up on your point about housing issues. 57%. so, what this says to me, representative is there are a whole lot of republicans and those numbers. because you don't get to 82% on anything in this country, without having a cross-section of voters agreeing to it. what does that tell you about the positioning of this campaign to lean into these issues from the first-time homebuyers, to price negotiations on medicare, and how voters are prepared to receive them all. are we hungry for that policy discussion right now you think? >> you know, one of the things i think is interesting is that one of the things that i think is interesting is that donald trump tries to take credit for democratic achievements and proposals, like capping the cost of insulin want to take

credit for his actual bad ideas, which are all laid out in project 2025. i do think people want a policy conversation, but that conversation has to be an honest conversation, when donald trump was president, he made very clear what his economic agenda was. it was cutting taxes for people that got him in the white house, cutting taxes for the people that come to mar-a-lago, pretend that he is still president, stand up and cheer for him when he comes back from golfing all day and, instead, i think people are really turning into what the vice president is saying, because she has a record of doing things done, you know, as a prosecutor. she, from the border state took on the transnational gains as a senator, she stood up against all of his bad appointments and as vice president, whether it was negotiating the drug prices

with medicare, finally taking on big pharma or insulin prices , we have somebody who has a record of getting things done, and donald trump wants to take credit for pieces of that record, because he knows it is popular, but president clinton said something that i thought was just one of those lines for me, that donald trump is always saying me, me, me, me and i think that that is going really what is at the core of this election, whether the president is talking about you, or whether they are talking about them else, donald trump only cares about himself. >> i think that is really such an important point, he cares about himself and he has been quite critical of america, and i suppose that, with what we heard from the vice president on thursday talking about the privilege of american take a listen. >> it is now our turn to do

what generations before us have done. guided, by optimism and faith to fight for this country we love. to fight for the ideals we cherish. and to uphold the awesome responsibility that comes with the greatest privilege on earth. the privilege and pride of being an american! >> state senator, i mean, it is -- the contrast is stark. >> it is, and congressman congresswoman, she took the stage and having served as the cia analyst among both administrations, you know, she said loud and clear, don't let anybody take away your patriotism and that rain loud

and clear throughout this entire convention. i know we talked about both sharing just a deep sense of gratitude for the fact that in this country we are all able to serve in these positions and up up and lead and be a voice of the people who have elected to send us to our state capitals to serve. that only happens in this country. and between the olympics running right into the dnc, i don't know about all of you, but i have felt more patriotic than i have in a very, very long time, and it just -- the convention was such a beautiful representation of how diverse we are as a country, of all different backgrounds and religions and ages, and it all came together, not in a party that is fighting amongst each other and different factions, but with this beautiful diverse group of people all going towards one goal, which is to

reach the highest aspirations of our country, i am tired of donald trump knocking this country. this is the greatest country in the world and we deserve to be proud of it and to work towards that goal. >> usa! usa! it is so patriotic. from the fourth of july is still outside, because the olympics and not just america. stick around, you all please, because you both grace the stage this week, talking about project 2025 during the dnc, so we want to talk about that and donald trump foul denial or nondenial of the project. we want to explain what is in that agenda. this is the weekend on msnbc. we and easy shave from america's #1 trusted men's grooming brand. respect your pubic region with gillette intimate. (♪♪)

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like. it is all laid out in project 2025 written by his closest advisors, and it it's some total is to pull our country back to the past, but america, we are not going back. we are not going back. spectrum, as you know, has repeatedly tried to distance himself from projects 2025, falsely claiming he has quote, nothing to do with it, but democrats wouldn't let them off that easy at the dnc. >> this is the republican group blueprint for a second trump term. that's right. >> it is interesting because, usually republicans want to ban books, but now they are trying to shut this down our throats. >> judge talented orders, >> so, i think, something that we were discussing, not about the size of the book, but how

did this even come about? how did you-- who-- how did each of you-- how are each of you approached in participating on this particular topic? because, you know, representative, you could have given a whole sermon up there about housing or the work on gun violence that you have been doing in pennsylvania. there were many other things you could have talked about, the emergence of stalwart voice on january 6th, why projects 2025 for both of you? i will start with you, representative. >> yeah, i think this election is about the future, and what projects 25 lays out is the dark, or is story future that donald trump sees for this country. one, where we get this guy all of the power to make medical decisions about our lives, we give this guy, and this party the ability to further try to rein in people's personal control over their own bodies and we are not going back.

i said, you know, my remarks her and my grandfather, deeply involved in the civil rights movement, and during the trump term she called me and said i'm so sorry, you all are going through this i thought we have figure this stuff out and i said no, grandma, it is our turn. it really is our turn to stand up and preserve our democracy, and i will tell you, there is a whole generation of leaders who are ready to fight for the country we love, who don't buy into donald trump's nonsense that we are a crappy place, this is an incredible country, and our work is to make sure that every single person can benefit from the greatness of this nation, and we are ready to fight for it. >> senator? >> yeah. so, for me at this point, i think everybody knows who donald trump is, and in a place, like michigan, this is a battleground state.

we are still the home of a lot of really good, decent, hard- working, moderate republicans. and i think what is important, this campaign right now feels very joyous and hopeful, and there's a lot of positive energy around, harris and tim walz that we will need to go forward to november, but i still think it is really important to draw a contrast and what is terrifying about this document is that this is a plan that the heritage foundation created, with more than 140 trump administration officials, likely the people he would hire in a sense second trump administration. for the first 180 days, and it includes things, like not only a national abortion ban, but it would compel states to report on women's miscarriages, which is just a dystopian nightmare that none of us want to not even go back to, but go to, because that has never been a reality for women, and i think, when i think about those voters,

the people who are still on the fence, who may not consider themselves democrats, a lot of the very people who voted for me in my last election, this is something that, the more they learn about it, the more they dislike it and they are our just lives at the convention, two mailers that went out from the gop, two voters, here in michigan, again, trying to disavow any knowledge that donald trump has from projects 2025, because they know how much of a liability it is, but they wrote the plants down, and tell about it. >> it is interesting that last point, senator, is a key point. you own it, because you wrote it, i'm sorry. you can't sit there, and say, you know, that would be-- that would be like matthew, mark, luke, and john coming back and going i wasn't there, so i don't know. i have no idea. i am-- jesus, you know, i heard he walked, but i wasn't in the room. i mean, it is just not

believable. and-- i think what you both did, along with others who came out over those four days to sort of frame this story around project 2025 was very, very important and i think in another very important aspect of this, because you know, both of you know, as elected officials, when you talk to your constituents, things can get a little bit nerdy, and a little bit the command eyes glaze over and people go, well is it really that important? right? so, our friend, keenan thompson wanted to put it in the proper perspective, and so, let's take a little listen to how he approached the issue of project 2025. >> now, becky, you are married, correct? >> i am, me and my wife have been together for about eight years. >> that is amazing, very, very cute!

but i have got some bad news for you. >> i hate that. >> on page 584, project 2025 calls for the elimination of protections for lgbtq+ americans. so, yeah, right back to the stone age, i'm afraid so. >> so, you get the page reference, you get the humor, you get a clarifying understanding, senator, of wet this thing is and what it means to be american people. >> that is exactly right. if you tell anybody project 2025 is 923 page policy document i read it, because i'm a little bit of a masochist, but i don't advise that most people read all 923 pages, but what is in it is really important, and i was proud to be kind of a part

of this plan that we had throughout the convention to highlight what it is. you know, i think the size of the book mattered, because it showed that this is a big document, in a way that really connects with people, and then breaking it down in a very commonsense way that gets beyond legalese and policy plans. keenan's but was brilliant, bringing on person after person after person, we heard that story, there is another lifelong civil servant who talked about the decades that she served in the state department and said that is wonderful. your job is gone now. and i think once you distill it into very bite-size pieces that people can understand and oh, by the way, and every bite-size piece seems to get worse and worse, i think it is, at least for me, an effective way to communicate what this is, in a way that anybody can understand. >> and especially, state senator, it makes it about the individual, right? it makes it about the fact that this is actually going to

impact individual americans, and i also thought that debbie scholz did a really great job of staying this isn't just a thing that is going to happen, this is a thing that is already underway, just take a look at what ron desantis has done in florida, and if you want america to be as florida is now, go for it, but if this frightens you, if limiting what children can read and learn in school, if limiting talk about gender and kids being able to go to their counselor and saying i need to talk to someone, can i talk to you, bothers you, then perhaps you don't want this, i am going to give you the last word, malcolm. >> i think that is absolutely right, part of what we did throughout this convention was give people a study guide, you don't have to read the full thing, but there are some really important points, and some fundamental freedoms that are at stake, and donald trump tried to do some of these things the last time he was president, particularly the schedule f, which is firing

smart, capable experts in their field who were all throughout our federal government, he tried to do those things. he wasn't successful, but because of his supreme court appointment and the absolute permission slip that they gave him to act with impunity, he is going to be able to finish the job. we are not going back to the dark version of donald trump's america, we are going forward to an america that sees all of us, and an america where we all matter and an america where we can all engage in the most beautiful part of the process to vote with respect and have that quote respected to control our own bodies, and to have a job that is family sustaining and to live a life free from violence, that is what we are fighting for and that is what we will deliver when we elect kamala harris and democrats. >> state rep representative mario, thank you both so much this morning. next, a nation ready to move forward or a dumping ground for the rest of the world? the major difference in tone

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no dyes. dandruff protection, minimal ingredients. job done. i love our country with all my heart. everywhere i go, everywhere i go and everyone i meet, i see a nation that is ready to move forward. ready for the next step in the incredible journey that is america. >> we have become a dumping ground for the rest of the world, which is laughing at us, they think we are stupid. and they can't believe that they are getting away with what they are getting away with, but they are not going to be getting away with it for long, that is what i can tell you. >> and that is the choice facing americans in november. >> projection. >> does he hate america?

why does he talk about us like that? >> why do we allow him to talk about us like that? that's what kills me. for 7 or eight years we have allowed him to have this conversation in our year, in our heads, in our neighborhoods, and as we noted earlier, now our people have been drawn away from their families, and their communities by this successive drumbeat of, you know, negatives about the country and about the people. turning us on each other instead of us turning into each other to deal with covid, to deal with recession, to deal with higher prices, as we have, generations before. we didn't have to beat each other up to get through tough times, we linked arms and moved together. and i think, alicia, that is what kamala harris is calling us to. to remember that is who we are, and not this. >> and that message was clear,

not only in what we heard from the two candidates, but also i think we all agree, in the way that these conventions were produced, let's take a look at the role calls from the conventions. >> we want to remind all of our delegates, all of our alternates and guest, that maintaining order during the rollcall is extremely important. >> ♪ yeah! ladies and gentlemen, we are here tonight! kamala harris for president! >> delegates, let us commence with the call of the role of the states. >> delegates, are you ready? let me hear you! >> iowa, 40 delegates. >> everybody get your hands up. now, we are not going back! we are not going back! we are not going back!

>> i mean, okay for georgia. georgia, can we just say georgia during their rollcall, they brought out littlejohn, but littlejohn was a contestant on the apprentice. donald trump had to have been sick, okay? sickening, there are layers to this. rollcall was fun, the convention seemed fun. i thought it was brilliant. >> it was more than brilliantly done, as someone who has had a hand in sort of planning for an event like this, let me tell you, that was so outside the box , we ain't going back. i mean, talk about going forward, i don't know what republicans are going to do in four years, hopefully they will be doing it without trump, but whatever it is, the democrats have set a new standard of how we engage the public, because the beauty of what you saw there was, instead of just kind of yawning your way through,

getting up and going to the bathroom, people stayed glued, because they know, okay, what is the next song that will come up for kansas, what will be their song for montana? what is their song? that sense of energy was palpable and it was infectious, and, you know, just a lot of the stuff that, just the muck and grime of eight years of donald trump bs just kind of washed off of you at that moment and i thought it was wonderful. >> right, because it is about more than fun, and more than the fact that this did rate better than the republican national convention, which, to your point, simone, that is getting under his skin, voting is an immense responsibility, and i personally take it very seriously. also an incredible privilege, and it is a thing we can look forward to getting to do, and i keep reminding everyone, early voting starts in pennsylvania, 23 days. >> september 6th.

>> so, the election may be 73 days away. but there are people going to the polls, they are casting their ballots in about three weeks. this is-- we are on the precipice of this happening. >> to your point really quickly casting our ballots off of this convention, coming off of this energy, having this campaign reframed for them, initial polling that was done focused on that, from the knights of this convention showing, it moved the needle for a lot of voters, and i think that will be fascinating. two things, one, what the bump is going to be command to your point, alicia, how the turnout starts with early voting. >> we will make a difference. all right, next, president biden's message to finish the job as he passes the torch to his vice president. this is the weekend.

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folks, i have got five months left in my presidency. i have got a lot to do. i intend to get it done. it has been the owner of my lifetime to serve as your president. i love the job. but i love my country more.

>> president biden is passing the torch, but his service to the american people isn't finished. the white house chief of staff says biden is determined to stay productive during his final months in office. joining us now, democratic congresswoman, joyce beatty, of ohio. it is great to have you back congresswoman. >> it is good to see you, you are looking fabulous. so much happened this week to do so much history at this convention. so many rising stars, and stars of the democratic party apparatus on the stage. but the week started with president biden and his remarks. i'm just wondering your reflections on this historic week, but also the president really passing the torch and making that decision. >> well, first of all thank you for having me this morning. i have very little voice left. i was there all week. monday night was all about the heart of the convention and passing the torch. honoring president biden i was honored to be one of the speakers on

monday night. clearly we saw him keeping his order. he stepped in to save the soul of this nation, and he is stepping out passing the torch to vice president harris. the rollcall will go down in history albeit something small, considering he led one of the greatest legacies of all residents, but i can tell you, being there with dj anthony watts, set the audience on fire. and that is just what we needed. he passed the torch, not only to vice president harris, but to a whole new generation of people. people were on their feet. you didn't leave, he waited for every state to see what would be happening next. >> it was so interesting, the historic nature, congresswoman, of course, vice president harris's candidacy, and that comes in the wake of decades of

work to make this moment possible. this, from notus.org. black women seeing decades of struggle, vindicated in kamala harris's ascension. as you know, there have been a lot of folks who have argued that one of the things democrats needed to do in congressional races, for example, was to clear the field for black women candidate so that if you actually wanted to see an increase in the ranks and in the numbers there is a history of it, there is the significance of it. what you make of this moment? >> this moment is very personal and emotional to me, but what i think of what it is doing across this country, it is helping us to move forward with a lot of diversity. it is also showing us that diversity is our strength. but it is bringing unity and unity is the power that you are seeing across all of the places, women who are well qualified. it is not just about having a

candidate that is female or a candidate that is a black american, it is opening the doors, where you can see all of the brilliance, all of the expertise that has been shackled in the past, and while republicans are playing reruns of the past you are seeing democrats reinvigorated. you are seeing then moving forward for the future. and that is what this election is going to be about. we have seen it in the last three weeks, when, with black women kicking off black women that i was proud to be one of the leaders of to set that tone, but what did that do? it opened it up for white students, for kamala harris, and white women and brown women and lgbt and yes, republicans for vice president harris. >> congresswoman, that is an important part about-- of this process, the broad nature of

its appeal. but i-- you know, the chairman chairman and me is always like, okay, the glass is half empty. we are-- as the governor said, we have still got some play left that we have got to make and it is about consolidating the new coalition. joe biden was able to create a specific kind of coalition in 2020 that took bricks out of that redwall that got back from wisconsin, michigan in pennsylvania. there is concern out there about how this plays out. is the country really ready to elect a black woman as president of the united states? and what does that say about the ark for hillary clinton's race to now that, as you noted, white dudes for kamala harris and white women coming together

in a way that they did not, for hillary in 2016. >> i think timing is everything. i think the condition of the country is entirely different, than when hillary was running. we are coming out of the pandemic, so, now people want a plan, they want a lot of promise, and you are absolutely right, michael, when you say we have some ways to go, but when you are going into the fourth quarter and you are ahead, versus being even and now we are moving ahead, because people want to feel-- fulfill that promise joe biden made. they want to make sure that we save our democracy, when we look at the opposition and what donald trump and jd vance are proposing, they have been so negative, they have been so discriminatory, you can name anything and they are on the wrong side of it. in america we are waking up, and so i am very comfortable

and confident that we are going to continue with at this pace. but we still have to understand , the fight is not over, but we know, when we fight we win, and now we are fighting together. four years, eight years ago, we were also dealing with a lot of trauma, within the party. we don't have that in this time. the party is unified, and president biden gets full credit for that. >> congresswoman, joyce beatty, thank you for your time. folks, don't worry, we will have more on president biden's legacy ahead. and a very quick programming note, if you missed moments from the democratic national convention, fear not, tonight we will bring you encore coverage of all of the top speeches, including the obama's, governor tim walz, and of course, vice president, kamala harris. that starts tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern, right here, on msnbc. i need my neighbor's

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he healed our sick, and put the rest of us back to work. and he strengthened our alliances for peace and security, he stood up for ukraine, trying desperately to get a cease-fire in the middle east. and then he did something that is really hard for a politician to do. he voluntarily gave up political power. george washington knew that, and he did it. and he set the standard for us serving two terms, before it was mandatory. it helped his legacy. and it will enhance joe biden's legacy.

>> that is how we ended up not being a monarchy, right? that is part of what is baked into the essence of this office is that you handed over to someone else that is in such sharp contrast, michael, to who it is that republicans have running, someone who does not want to give up power. >> and look, i think liz cheney nailed it during the january 6th hearings, when she said, the stain of, you know, your actions supporting this illiberal president is on us, as a party, and i think the country, you know, in quiet ways, still remembers that and still looks at that, which is why this moment is so freeing and so many respect. a comment during the break about james comey. former-- what is his role? >> he was head of the fbi. >> director. >> coming out and saying, you

know, this, less speech was like the first time, you know, he has had that morning in america feeling in a long time. and so, i think this moment is transitional for a lot of us. and we have joe biden, yet again, once again to thank for that. and at his own personal sacrifice in his political career. >> and i just want to reiterate, yet again, while some people were playing checkers, joe biden is playing chess. a lot of folks want this open convention and the president said i put my trust in my faith in the vice president of the united dates, because she is ready to serve, and vice president harris has risen to the occasion, but don't let people forget what the streets were trying to do prior to joe biden. >> at a moment, when the stakes could not be higher. and let's talk about those stakes, because coming up a deep dive into trump's project 2025, this time focused on the extreme plan to rollback protections for

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