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stuart altman, bobby durst was a good person and loyal friend for more than 40 years. and as it was, worried that bobby durst may have been the friend she never knew. after all. >> i can't understand harming a human being, okay. it doesn't make sense to me. i don't know if i could forgive that, and i wish i could. i'm struggling with that. i don't know. that's it, i don't know. >> that's all for this edition of dateline. i'm andrea canning. thanks for watching. hello. i am andrea canning and this is datelined. >> he told me he loved me and i
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told him i loved him. he said he would be right back. i could hear a commotion and then i remember hearing gunshots. to see him lying there, it was bad. >> it's a website where lovers go to meet and cheat. >> this was someone looking to have an up there. >> this affair was about so much more than deceit. >> you couldn't write this as a movie. you couldn't write this is a book. >> the affair became a game. a wife and lover spying on her husband and his lover. >> you think, what else have they done? >> the spy game turned deadly. one of the four was gunned down. >> this was and random. >> waiting at the scene, man with a strange story and waiting for detectives, a strange video. how creepy was a video? >> it was very creepy.
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>> an affair to remember. >> he was the one. >> and affair to forget. one more secret to be revealed. >> she said i have something to tell you. the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. hello, and welcome to dateline. by all appearances, salmon danielle dreher had a storybook marriage. one tragic afternoon their world came crashing down, destroyed by a series of bullets into senseless killing. as investigators began to date, they realized not always as it seemed. they entered a maze of marital betrayal. here is tangled web. >> sarasota, florida, the perfect backdrop for romance.
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beautiful beaches for long walks, gorgeous sunsets, and the slow rhythm of a gentle -- a city by the sea but not all have ended happily ever after like the one that unfolded back in the summer of 2012 when secrets, lies, and infidelity led to murder. >> 911. >> it's a twisted love story? >> it is so twisted. it's tangled. it is a not. i'm not sure it will ever come undone, but i know there is more to the story than has been told. >> it began in 1998 when a 26- year-old local firefighter by the name of sam dreher met the love of his life, danielle. >> they were the ideal young couple. they held hands.
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they looked at each other dreamily. he seemed crazy about her. >> sam's older sister was thrilled when she found out sam had a serious new girlfriend. what was your first impression? >> she was really sweet. she seemed crazy in love about him. they had a lot in common. >> it came as no surprise when sam announced he was ready to pop the question. as for how he proposed? the firefighter did not disappoint. >> he hired a sand sculpture to build a rather large sand sculpture of a treasure chest. he had placed the engagement ring in the box. >> he pulled the ring out and got on one knee and proposed to her. >> sam is a romantic. the lucky in love newlyweds would become equally successful at work. sam quickly climbed the fire
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department ladder rising to the rank of lieutenant at the young age of 33. >> he loved the fire served. loved being a paramedic. >> danielle finding her stride in the administrative office of a local hospital. >> she became the regional marketing director for the whole hospital corporation. >> sam and danielle didn't have children but they had the next best thing, sam's great-niece. >> you are like the daughter we never had. they always told me that. >> aubrey often spent weekends with them. >> sam was the best ever. he took me in his family right away. he was like a regular dad. he cared. focus on school. don't let those boys ruin your life. they are no good. don't let boys get around you. he said you're never allowed to date a fireman. >> what's wrong with firemen?
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>> he worked with the menu how they were. >> did danielle take you and like you were one of her own? >> yes. she was as welcoming as he was. >> aubrey listen to their tales of trips. >> they traveled the world together. they had so many good times and so many great experiences. >> i would imagine they were like role models to you. >> they were. >> perfect life. perfect wife. everything seemed great for both of them. >> all that changed in august 2012. it was a hot saturday afternoon in sarasota when registered nurse trish heard a disturbance coming from the stairwell outside her apartment. >> it sounded like someone was being chased and then i heard somebody yell oh, god, no. >> the sound of gunshots followed. four of them. trish called 911.
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>> i think my heart was going a gazillion miles amela. >> trish peered out her apartment door and saw a man lying in the stairwell bleeding. she knew he wasn't a resident of the apartment complex. >> i had no idea who he was. my concern was to get him on his side because he was face down in a big pool of blood. >> blood everywhere. [ crying ] i didn't know what to do. i ran back into my apartment and got towels. >> as minutes ticked by, trish began to worry the shooter might be in the area. >> then you start to think, i
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wonder where the person is who did this? for all i knew, the person upstairs shot him. >> those questions would have to wait. paramedics arrived on the scene and learned the victim was one of their own. it was firefighter sam dreher . the paramedics immediately airlifted sam to the nearest trauma center is word of the shooting spread. >> it is danielle and she screaming into the phone, you have to come. he has been shot. he's been shot. i said who has been shot? she screams sam. >> cindy jumped in her car to be at her brother's side, 1000 question swirled through her mind. why sam? who shot him? why was he at that apartment complex? a firefighter gunned down but this seems like more than a random shooting. >> coming up. >> there's some infidelity going on and there's a reason, cause for concern. in people 60 years and older.
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as cindy raced to the hospital, all she knew was that her brother sam had been shot. >> it was a nightmare. it seemed like we were traveling 1000 miles. we just couldn't get there fast enough. >> when cindy made it to the icu sam's wife was already there waiting in the hallway. >> she started crying and i
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said is he alive? she said, he is alive. >> the prognosis was not good. >> the doctor said he was shot four time. wrong place. wrong time. >> the responsibility of finding out what happened fell to the detectives chad. who began gathering pieces of the puzzle as soon as they arrived on scene. this case was personal to you. >> in our area, law enforcement firefighters are very close. in this case it wasn't another victim but the victim was part of this larger brotherhood and a kind of hit home. >> first, the interview the neighbors who found sam lying in the stairwell. >> when we work a crime, that's usually where your start with this the 911 caller. >> trish murphy said this normally quiet upscale gated community had never experienced anything like this before. >> it was a quiet lace to be.
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>> she did remember seeing something that troubled her one month before the shooting. a man standing in the woods across the lake staring at the building. >> i thought to myself that was an odd thing. who would just be standing there? >> detectives turned to the traumatized neighbor dianne. they learned dianne was holding onto a secret. it turns out the witness, dianne mcknight, was a lot more than just a witness. she was very important to this case. >> yes, she was. >> dianne revealed she knew sam intimately. >> she admitted they were boyfriend and girlfriend. she stated they had been dating for only a few months and stated they were in love. >> sam was having an affair? >> yes. >> which is why sam was there that day. >> there's infidelity going on and a reason, cause for concern. >> did you ever think you would be the kind of person who would
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have an affair? >> no. >> she said it started with an innocent encounter at a bar. >> he asked if i was married and had kids. i told him i was and that no kids. i said what about you? he said mary. >> sam had been married for 13 years but according to dianne, it took one month for sam to fall in love with her and , she said, the feelings were mutual. what was it about him that made him -- made you fall so hard? >> the most thoughtful person , comforting. i couldn't wait to always be around him. >> did you still feel a little guilty? >> oh, yes. >> dianne said there were issues in her marriage. >> i thought if i'm doing this, my marriage is definitely already over. >> a few months after the
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affair began, she decided it was time to tell her husband she wanted a divorce. >> i remember saying, we need to talk. nobody ever wants to hear that. he looked at me and said, are you having an affair? and i said no. >> why were you honest at that point? >> i didn't want to hurt him. >> what came next? >> we both got very emotional. he agreed to it. >> then came the shooting. day in try to think of anyone who could've been responsible. that's when she remembered a strange visit a month before the shooting from a man claiming to be a plumber. he said he was looking for a water leak in the building. >> he needed to check her pipes or something along that line. >> i said, okay. i thought what am i doing letting the strange person in my home and i had a feeling this isn't right. >> five minutes later the plumber was on his way.
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did you check with your super? >> i called the office and told them the incident. they said, there should not of been anybody at my door. >> that most of been a weird feeling. the following day, the same man appeared again. right below her apartment balcony. >> he was standing on the ground by a tree and looking directly up at me. >> that is creepy. >> yes. >> are you thinking i am being stalked? dianne saw him a third time. this time immediately after sam had been shot. >> that same man. came running up the stairs towards me. i looked at him and i said what are you doing here? >> she recognized him. you can hear her on the 911 call. >> i remember him making a motion. then he ran off. >> did you start to think in
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those split seconds that this mystery man was really after sam? >> yeah. it was a suspicion. >> it must've been such a puzzle. >> yes. >> puzzling for detectives. >> we need to know what this connection was. >> coming up. more secrets waiting to be revealed. >> she said i need to sit down. i have something to tell you. o by a heart valve problem,... ...we're going for a better treatment than warfarin. eliquis. eliquis reduces stroke risk. and has less major bleeding. over 97% of eliquis patients did not experience a stroke. don't stop taking eliquis without talking to your doctor as this may increase your risk of stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking, you may bruise more easily... ...or take longer for bleeding to stop. get help right away for unexpected bleeding or unusual bruising.
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while sam clung to life in the icu, dianne mcknight remained at the crime scene wondering who could've been responsible for his shooting. how scared are you knowing there's a shooter on the loose? >> i was terrified. >> she told detectives about the strange man she saw multiple times around the apartment complex. the man who appeared moments after sam was shot. >> is said could you describe him? >> little did she know, a man fitting the description had just been arrested. he approached sheriff's deputies moments after they arrived on scene and confessed to the shooting. >> they had him on the back of the control car and they told us he made statements that he was a shooter. >> did you feel this could be an easy one? or did you think there's got to be him more?
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>> there's always more. >> the man identified himself as michael minor. the detectives immediately brought him to the sheriff's office for questioning. >> he is distraught but willing to talk to us. we were ready to listen to him. >> michael outline the details of the shooting. he started by insisting it was an accident on. >> but detectives weren't so sure. after all, michael shot sam not once but four times. one of the shots was to the back of sam's head. so sam is laying here in michael is right on top of him basically giving the final shot? >> he would've had to have been. >> one shot might've been an accident but not three or four that he actually fired. that was no accident. >> detectives wanted to know if
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it was not an accident why did michael shoot sam? >> pieces to the puzzle and you try to fit them together. >> that's when michael revealed something that would turn the case on his head. he told about an affair but not the affair between sam and dianne. it was an affair he was having with the victim's wife, daniel. >> they'd been having an affair. >> it was a mind spinning moment and detectives discovered the victim sam had been cheating on his wife danielle. now they were learning danielle had been cheating on sam. >> everybody is involved with somebody else. it was interesting. >> and challenging for detectives who had to contend with a second affair. michael minor, the plumber, 13 years younger than danielle said they met on ashley madison, website for husbands and wives looking to cheat. the wed site slogan, life is short. have an affair. >> this was something looking
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to have an affair. >> they both were. >> michael insisted it was no casual fling. after all, the affair lasted four years and what's more he told detectives he had fallen in love with danielle. >> it was like i really found my soulmate, man. it was wonderful. >> he was smitten. he was totally obsessed with her and in love with her. >> he went on to say the day the shooting, he decided it was time to talk to sam, man to man. he wanted to come clean about his love for danielle. >> he wants to confront sam, basically. tell him he is the other man. >> that day, michael said he track sandown and found him in the parking lot of dianne's
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parking complex and he brought a gun because he had no idea how sam would react. >> according to michael, it didn't go as planned. when sam saw michael was armed, he fled. >> michael ran after sam up these stairs and he said at some point while they were in the stairwell, sam turned. >> michael claims he was in fear and closed his eyes and fired his gum -- gun. >> with all the things he's telling you, he's in a relationship with danielle, do you think we need to talk to danielle? >> the next step was let's hear danielle's story. >> the detective left michael
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and headed to the hospital where danielle had been waiting for updates on sam's condition. all danielle had been told was that sam had been shot. no one told her by whom. >> when i got there, she was crying. >> detectives recorded the interview. at first the detective didn't reveal he knew about danielle's lover michael minor her that it was michael who shot sam. instead, he started by asking danielle about her marriage to sam. danielle candidly described it as troubled. danielle explained she knew sam was having an affair despite sam's best efforts to conceal it. danielle admitted she too was unfaithful. >> she was pretty straightforward and told me about the affair.
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>> little by little the detectives led danielle to believe they were focusing on michael. >> it would shock you have michael -- >> it wasn't the reaction the detective was expecting. he found danielle's tone to be strangely flat and unemotional. >> that was troubling to me. that was disturbing to me. >> danielle said she had no idea michael planned to talk to sam that day. >> but detectives were skeptical. they wondered if danielle knew more about michael's intentions than she was letting on. >> at this point i don't know whether to believe her are not. >> you are not done with danielle. >> we are not done with her. >> it was up to danielle to
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reveal the identity of the shooter and explain the sordid details of how she was connected to him. >> she said i need you to sit down i have something to tell you. and, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. >> first, cindy learned sam and danielle were getting a divorce and then that danielle and sam were having affairs. most shocking ? it was danielle's lover who shot sam. >> did i just hear what i heard? >> four adults ensnared by lies and deceit and won the clinging to life. this tangled story was about to get a whole lot more twisted. >> coming up. >> danielle was obsessed with what sam was doing which would be anything i've seen before in investigations. investigations. ic river. it is coming down. [ cellphone buzzes, chimes ] oh, flood warning in louisiana.
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hi, i'm richard lui with a news update. the middle east remains on edge after israel's military and terrorist group hezbollah traded attacks over the weekend. israel referred to it strikes as preemptive saying detective plans by hezbollah to carry a large-scale attack. a hurricane is moving away from the hawaiian islands. the category one storm is brought high surf in winds as well as dropping 15 inches of rain on the big island. 24 hours after sam dreher had been shot, his condition began to deteriorate rapidly. sam's sister was there when the family decided to take him off life support. >> i hated it. i thought of him like he was one of my children. i love tim that much. >> were you able to be with sam and hold his hand as say good-
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bye? >> i did. i made him a promise that the people responsible would pay for it. >> the news of his passing hit dianne mcknight hard. >> i'm thinking maybe there's some hope that he can survive this. when i heard that, i knew i was never going to see him again. >> sam's great-niece aubrey didn't make it to the hospital in time but she made sure to be at sam's funeral. >> the bagpipes i remember to this day. >> did it make you proud in that moment? >> yeah. i'm still proud of him. >> full fire department honors were bestowed upon the admired young lieutenant. >> it was like the whole community came at to pay their respects. it was very very humbling. >> along with the tears there was tension.
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by now, sam's family and friends learned danielle's lover had shot sam. >> no one could believe it. that she had a boyfriend or her boyfriend killed her. >> people didn't want her at the funeral. >> sitting not far from danielle was the other woman. was at awkward? with danielle at the funeral? the wife and mistress? >> yes, it was, but i felt it was more important for me to be there and worry how awkward i felt. >> to her surprise, sam's family embraced dig in. >> they received me well and invited me to sit with them. >> she is truly a lovely person. i think she made him happy. he deserved to be happy. >> you've come down pretty hard on danielle for her affair. sam was also having an affair.
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>> yes. >> do you condemn him for that? >> no. i don't think he intended to meet someone. i don't think he intended to have an affair. he had known dianne three months. that's a far cry, world apart from danielle seeking a man on ashley madison and having a long-term affair for four years. >> in the weeks following the funeral, the detectives continue their investigation. they had their shooter but they also had lingering questions about whether danielle may have been involved. >> one of the first things that comes to mind, the wife has a hand in this. she is linked. she's got to have something to do with it. >> as they sifted through the evidence, they became more confident they were on the right track. what they discovered stunned even though he's two seasoned investigators. danielle had been spying on
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sammy and dianne for over two months. >> danielle was obsessed with what sam was doing. which went beyond anything i've seen before in investigations. >> it appeared to them that danielle persuaded michael to help her. >> they had stalked them. >> they put a tracker on their vehicles. >> this is by equipment. ships detectives discovered it in the wheel well of sam's pick up. police found evidence that both danielle and michael were taking surveillance photos of sam and dianne. this is a photo taking of them on sam's boat and thus they are on dianne's balcony. >> michael would've been across the lake and that's where he would've been hiding in the bushes. >> seems like a perfect spot if you wanted to spy on someone. >> detectives said they only got bolder from there and
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discovered evidence that michael had brazenly broken into dianne's apartment and videotaped the inside. >> inside, the belly of the beast. >> he is narrating. his first words were i'm in the belly of the beast. he pans over the alarm pad was not armed. >> that could've been bad. >> is michael documented every aspect of dianne's personal life, poking around her drawers, her refrigerator and insider bathroom, police said danielle played look up. in this text message danielle wrote get out if you're not already. getting bad feeling. >> he is doing it at the request, basically, of danielle. >> detectives found alarming with the text messages michael and danielle sent each other. michael minor says i want to blow his head off and put two on her. >> he goes on to say bang bang. i won't because it's wrong.
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danielle responded, you would not and could not because that would be illegal. >> that was disturbing. >> in another text, danielle referred to her handgun which she called daisy, she wrote i'm close to introducing them to daisy. michael respond, we can do it together as a date. smiley face. in another she wrote, i hate them with every inch of me. revenge will be mine and it will be very sweet. >> it was very obvious that danielle had hate toward sam. that she wanted to hurt him. >> based on those text messages, it seemed clear to detectives that she persuaded michael to feel the same way. >> i absolutely think she poisoned michael's mind as far as what sam was. >> everything he knew about sam
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was that he was a violent person. he was described to him as a drunk. as a cheater. as a liar. that knowledge came from one person and one person alone. it was danielle. >> did you have evidence as you kept investigating that sam was abusive or violent? >> there was no evidence whatsoever. >> danielle had control over michael minor. she did manipulate him. did she manipulate him to the point of killing sam? i don't know. >> the detectives realized they needed to pay danielle another visit. >> we are going back to find out, what is your intent? what your involvement? >> did someone have 1 million reasons to commit murder? t mur . call 833-leaffilter today for your free gutter inspection. i've had terrible flooding problems on my porch.
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you couldn't write this as a movie. you couldn't write this as a book. it wouldn't be believable. >> tracking devices. surveillance photos. sneaking into an apartment. sounded like a couple of private eyes than a plumber and marketing director. danielle recalled a time when she and sam are eating at this restaurant when out of nowhere danielle appeared. >> this woman comes from
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behind sam and she says, and danielle, the soon-to-be ex- wife. you must be the next. awkward. >> yeah. >> danielle left without incident. did you think you were being followed? >> no. i thought it was a coincidence and that of all the places, now i know why she was there. >> this is like marital espionage. >> it's exactly like that. they were playing spy games. >> it was up to mcdonald and to find out if those spy games developed into a conspiracy to commit murder. >> i became suspicious that she had a part in this homicide. >> the detectives said that with danielle and recorded interviews on three separate occasions. from the very first interview, danielle willingly acknowledged she and michael have been tracking sam and dianne .
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>> danielle admitted to helping michael take those surveillance photos. >> danielle tonight this elaborate spine escalated into a murder plot. she said, it was preparation for her pending divorce. >> she wanted to have leverage and be able to embarrass him. >> danielle told the detectives another reason was curiosity.
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>> what's more, danielle said she and michael stop their spying weeks before the shooting. detectives asked about the text messages which they found so troubling. danielle said they were all in fun. they question danielle but the text michael sent her. >> they then asked about the messages she sent back to him. >> do you think they're joking
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with each other? do you think it's real? >> asked danielle that very question. why are you saying this and she said, oh, we were trying to sound tough. she tonight for real. >> that's not the way sam's sister saw it. when detectives showed those text to cindy, she was dumbstruck. >> i couldn't believe what i was reading. this is someone who has been in my family for almost 13 years. even talking right now, i have chills. >> those text she said proved how much danielle hated sam and wanted him out of the way. she is convinced danielle manipulative michael to feel the same way. do you think danielle had anything to do with your brother's death? what she directly associated? >> i think she is. i hold danielle dreher as much
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if not more responsible than the man who actually shot him. >> cindy topol elected -- detectives that that wasn't her only motive and she was driven by that age-old incentive. >> i believe it was a money. to divorce him and split half to get all of it, i think it was money. >> just over $1 million in fact. >> there was a substantial amount of money she would gain if sam turned up dead. that's exactly what happened. >> we asked danielle dreher to sit down for an interview and both she and her attorney declined. during danielle's interview with detectives, she emphatically denied having anything to do with sam's murder. >> i would never kill my husband. >> the man who pulled the trigger supported danielle's claim of innocence in no uncertain terms.
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>> michael's response didn't sway cindy. >> i didn't believe him. i think he was protecting her. i think you would've done anything for her. >> cindy believes that includes lying about danielle being involved in the murder and cindy was not alone. >> do i believe she was part of the murder scheme, yes. >> sarasota county lead prosecutor believed danielle manipulative michael to kill sam. >> she is a very manipulative person and she was able to manipulate michael minor. there's a dead man because of that. >> the question before the prosecutor, could she prove it in court? >> coming up.
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has prosecutor, she found the case of sam dreher's murder is frustrating. >> it's hard to remain unemotional in the murder. murder of an innocent person who did nothing but fall in love with another woman. >> michael minor shot sam but the prosecutor believed danielle manipulated him to do it and her motive was more than just money. >> i think there was a financial motive, certainly. probably the most overarching motive was just jealousy despite the fact she was conducting an affair of her own, i think she was completely enraged that sam started stepping out on her as well. >> in order to prove that in court, she felt she needed g she didn't yet have. a statement from michael saying danielle acted as his
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accomplice so she waited, thinking time would compel him to come forward and admit danielle was involved. he never did. michael maintained danielle played no role in the murder. is this possibly twisted act of chivalry? >> i think that's one of his motivations if not a soul might ovation was trying to protect the woman he loved. >> did you say, why are you protecting her? >> yes. he said i'm not protecting her. >> we were hoping he would, i want to tell you the truth, want to tell you what part she had in it. that never happened. >> 2.5 years after shooting sam, michael minor agreed to plead no contest to second- degree murder. >> it will live with me forever. >> in exchange, michael received a sentence of 30 years. >> i wouldn't give him anything less than that. he pulled the trigger and pulled it four times. >> i was glad he was going to
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jail. >> michael minor didn't just kill our brother, he mortally wounded our family. >> coalminer never wavered that he acted alone. the prosecutor felt she didn't have enough evidence to charge danielle is michael's accomplice. >> i cannot charge someone based upon my speculations, the family's believes, in the ugliness of these text messages is not enough unless i can show there was a conspiracy. michael minor never gave that information. >> was danielle involved, indirectly involved? or had no part in this whatsoever. >> she wasn't involved in the homicide. >> news of the decision not to prosecute danielle made cindy furious. >> do i think it's a tough case? absolutely. do you know what? their job is not to prosecute
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cases that are easy. it's to prosecute criminals. >> just when everyone thought danielle was free and clear, the prosecutor said not so fast. remember michael minor's videotape break-in of dianne mcknight's apartment? the prosecutor believed danielle helped plan the break- in and she instructed michael to steal some of dianne's possessions. danielle was charged with burglary and theft. at trial the defense argued danielle never asked michael to steal anything. the jury did not agree. she was found guilty and sentenced to three years in prison. >> this was a satisfying verdict to see the woman be punished for her actions. >> is the murder of sam dreher an open or closed case? >> it's a closed case. >> never cindy who mourns the loss of her brother. she keeps his uniform close by and with the, a lifetime of
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memories. >> he was loving. he was caring. he was the peacemaker and doing for others. he was sweet. >> cindy once felt the same way about her sister-in-law danielle, but now there's bad blood between the two. cindy fought over benefits of the life insurance and they ultimately reached a confidential settlement. cindy also keeps a watchful eye on danielle. according to cindy, danielle was dating another man before she went to prison. >> she was living with a firefighter as a matter of fact. one of my brother's suppose it fire brothers. >> what is your advice to this firefighter? >> watcher back. the last two guys involved with danielle, one is data one is in prison. >> as for dianne, she's left to reflect in a lifeless sam that could have been. did you talk about marriage?
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>> yes. >> was it in the cards? >> absolutely. >> did you feel i'm being punished for having this affair? >> yes. i might've said those exact words to myself. >> it started in a club with an innocent conversation. was it worth it? falling in love with sam? >> i would never change having met sam. >> was he the one? >> he was the one. without a doubt. he still is the one. >> that is all for this edition of dateline. i am andrea canning. thank you for watching. hello. i am andrea canning. this is dateline.

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