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welcome back. 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin with rising tensions in the middle east. on sunday israel launched preemptive strikes against hezbollah and lebanon after detecting plans by hezbollah to launch a large scale attack. they responded if i firing hundreds of rockets and drones into israel, which it says was revenge for the assassination of a high-ranking leader last month. rockets and drones caused no civilian casualies and minimal damage, but there are still fears of a wider con flikt. all of this comes as efforts are underway to reach a cease-fire agreement to stop the war in gaza that has killed more than 40,000 people, according to the hamas run gaza health ministry. with us now is matt bradley in

tel aviv. and former israeli consul general. benjamin netanyahu said yesterday's attacks are not the end of the story, so what could potentially be coing next? >> yeah, the whole region is still kind of on a war footing, waiting to see what happens. the big other shoe to drop here is iran. you remember hezbollah, who are the ones that launched the attacks yesterday and it was israel who launched in a preemptive strike, they vowed to attack the reuate for the assassination of the official just outside of beirut a month ago. hours after that assassination, there was another one in tehran, the capital of iran, of a top hamas official. iran has also vowed to retaliate, but they haven't yet. the entire region is waiting for, but there's still these negotiations that are ongoing in cairo. i spoke with a top israeli

official yesterday and was told that israelis believe that iran is waiting to see how these negotiations go before they decide whether or not and how they are going to be retaliating. so that's still something that's kind of out in the open. we don't know exactly what is going to happen there. and that's why we heard from secretary of defense lloyd austining saying the two strike groups will remain in the middle east until further notice as a deterrent against any strike. so everybody is still in a war footing here. it's unclear exactly what's going to happen. but i can tell you now, this burst of violence that we saw over israel's northern border and lebanon's southern border, even though it's the worst violence we have seen for nearly two decades, it was cathartic. it did kind of release a lot of tension in the region, both sides declared victory, both sides said there were no civilians killed and both said there was minimal damage.

this means after a month of sky-high tensions and anxiety, it looks like at least on this border, things have returned to something like calm. >> yeah, ambassador, the word of the day here seems to be containment, but what really is containment? and what is the definition of calm, to use matt's term? >> hi, jose. first of all, i apologize for the music. you don't want to know where i am. but as for containment, the idea that the containment replaced escalation as the word of the week and word of the day and the word of the month, as we get that far, is a good thing. now both sides needed a winning narrative. and even if that narrative is incompatible, the two narratives are incompatible, it's okay as long as it's contained. israel claims its foiled by a

preemptive strike a massive hezbollah attack. hezbollah is saying this was a decoy and deception. we did what we needed to do. we hit where we needed to hit. we have not used precise missiles, and we're happy. if both sides are happy, that's good. all that being said and established, this round looks like everyone seems to be declaring victory, but this by no way or means means the end of this conflict. and that is because whatever is happening in lebanon is linked, even though the prime minister refuses or declines or defies that logic, it is linked to what's going on in gaza. only a cease-fire in gaza would deescalate lebanon. as long as there's no cease-fire in gaza, and i don't see one in the foreseeable future, what

you're seeing in lebanon is going to continue. perhaps in a lower intensity, but will continue. >> just speaking of low intensity versus high intensity, the fact is that it's such a volatile time and such a volatile region. what would an all-out war between israel and hezbollah mean for the region? lebanon has seen what that means. >> that's exactly the right question here. which underscores this idea that neither side, neither hezbollah nor israel want an all-out war. they know what that has looked like before back in 2006. they had that larger war for several months. southern lebanon, much of it where hezbollah was based, was left in absolute ruins. and the years since, it's worth pointing out that hezbollah has only ramped up its military capabilities since then.

so israel, certainly, does not want a war on two fronts. to be fighting both in gaza and a more robust hezbollah force from southern lebanon. that's in both country's interest. i want to undercore what the ambassador was saying about a cease-fire. it's worth pointing out they have been trading fire on a daily basis. basically since israel's assault in gaza began after the hamas attack on october 7th in israel. this is now certainly the heaviest fighting and heaviest strikes we have seen over the last couple days, but hezbollah has said it would stop those strikes if there was a cease-fire. matt laid out how those talks sort of limpl along with no real progress, but it comes down to this. a cease-fire seems to be the only way to end palestinians dying, the death toll has crossed 40,000, to bring the hostages home, and it seems

potentially to secure the situation on the northern border of israel and avoid a wider war. >> and the fact that iran -- and there were some activity over the weekend from iran, but that massive attack that we saw recently with hundreds of missiles and drones into israel the, there's phase one iran announced is done, but there's an expected phase two. what role and responsibility does iran have in all this? >> iran is at the center of all of these activities. they are linked as allies because of support through iran. there's a number of other proxy groups as well. that's where the larger worries about a broader regional conflict stem from. at the center of that spoke of concerns is iran. they have pledged retaliatory strikes for the killing of a

commander is now in tehran last month. they blame israel for it. they have not taken responsibility for that. so that continues to loom. that is, as you point out, that's what's underscored in the broader concerns about a wider regional war. >> and matt, i was just mentioning a cease-fire deal. where do things stand with a cease-fire deal? where are negotiations? who is behind them? >> as ever, they stand shrouded in pessimism ever since the last successful deal in november. it only lasted a week, but had it released half of those hostages. it brought a week's calm to the gaza strip and freed quite a few prisoners. but ever since then, we have been seeing a familiar pattern. the u.s. administration blasting out saying this is close to a deal. we're getting the parties on both sides, even as they are pouring in more and more diplomatic resources. we just saw that the u.s. secretary of state made his 9th

visit to the area and it doesn't count the others that have been traveling back and forth. this is a huge endeavor by the biden administration. they haven't been successful so far. that's because both parties, hamas and israelis, are still pretty far apart. even though we have been hearing from the administration that israel has exceeded to a deal, they haven't. the israeli, and this has been said by diplomats among the intermediaries, american media saying that the israelis are putting in additional stipulations, particularly from benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister, one of the most recent ones, he added, he wants to see a more permanent presence along the corridor. that's another term for the border between gaza and the peninsula. that irked not just hamas, but also the egyptians, who share that border. that was a tough new demand and

one that according to an official yesterday, there was some understanding between the egyptians and israelis, but that's another sticking point, another barrier. it really just did you want look like this deal is going to be gelling any time soon. >> ambassador, i know you're a critic of benjamin netanyahu, but does it seem to you as though benjamin netanyahu's government is actually interested in a cease-fire? we have to remember there are still hostages being held. >> they are not interested. they haven't been interested since november. in fact, they have undermined any possibility when a deal seems to be within reach. that was before the initial deal in november. and certainly after november. again, when president biden presented his proposal, which he correctly introduced as an israeli proposal on the 31st of

may, that's two and a half months ago. benjamin netanyahu was not interested in any deal that would defacto end the war. he's interested in the prolonging of the war. he's interested in the controlled escalation, even though it's doubtful anyone can control it. and so i'm extraordinary pessimistic, tragically about the prospects of a deal as a cease-fire and a hostage deal. >> matt thank you all very much for being with us this morning. next, the debate over debates. we'll hear from the harris campaign about where presidential debate stands as of this morning after former president trump raised doubt once again just moments ago. plus what we're hearing from jd vance about whether a second trump term would lead to more family separation ace long the border. and they are still stuck in space.

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>> will families be spratded? >> i think families are currently be separated and you're going to have to deport some people in this country. >> so that's a yes? >> you start with the most violence criminals in our country. kamala harris says donald trump wants to separate families. kamala harris policies led to thousands upon thousands of migrant children living with sex traffickers and cartels. thaps the consequence of her policies. >> there's not a policy to separate famiies. >> joining us is vaughn hillyard, the dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas, and msnbc political, and matthew dowd, chief strategist. so what has the trump campaign said about family separations going forward? >> let's be clear. they have said very little. donald trump has not at any point during this 2024 run said

he would not reimplement what was a zero tolerance what became a family separation policy that his administration implemented in 2017, 2018, 2019, more tha 5,500 children were separated from their families. to this date, april the department of homeland security said there are still more than 1400 children who have yet to be reunified with their parents because of that trump administration policy during those years. and as you heard in that interview, jd vance continued to not say definitively that the administration would not reimplement that. let's be clear. two of the key architects and allies of donald trump who are behind the family separation policy in the first administration, tom homan, who worked as the i.c.e. director as well as the adviser steven miller, continue to be key allies who donald trump frequently touts on the campaign

trail today. they could be in the next administration. and the second part about family separation is the idea of the mass deportation program. family separation applied to the zero tolerance border policy, but if in fact they were to implement mass deportation program, the question is, would potentially local law enforcement go in and separate parent who is are found to be undocumented, separate them from their children, many who very well maybe american citizens themselves, as an effort to have the largest deportation program since the eisenhower administration, as donald trump has continuously vowed to do in a second administration. >> so this whole issue of mass deportation. politically, how is this beneficial to trump and his team? >> i don't think he thinks about it in many ways politically.

from a standpoint of a broader electorate, his base wants mass deportation, which is some level of a third of the country wants it. the problem he has is that the voters he needs to win the election in michigan and wisconsin in arizona in nevada in north carolina don't want it. that's ultimately the difficulty. but in my view, donald trump and his team always the seem to devolve to the base. they don't make decisions in the best view of the american public. they devolve to the base. so my guess is they are totally willing to separate families, they are on board on mass deportation. they are willing to do all these things that majority of the country is opposed to, but that's how donald trump calculates. in the end, he only cares about the base. >> thinking about this, there maybe, or not, a difference in

how different people see this issue. i'm thinking of the community that 63 million strong in this country, 1 million latinos turned 18 years of age every year in our country. how is this issue, do you think, playing in the latino community, once again underlying there's no latino vote or latino voters? >> correct. and let me break this up into, first of all, we know that latino, even though they historically leaned toward the democrat you can party in the last 50 or 60 years, there's always been a big chunk of swing voters. during the last two or three electoral cycle, we have seen that again. we have been remienlded that latinos are swinging when it comes to voting. so we see donald trump having made end roads. that being said in some polling that we have seen with latinos,

they maybe fiscally with donald trump. they maybe in his general platform, but when you talk about family separation, that's where you start to see pushback. latinos may want strong border enforcement, especially some of those in the valley, but the rhetoric and the idea and we saw it. remember those images of children being separated from their parents. that one is going to be a loser for those latino swing voters that donald trump so desperately wants. especially in the face of nevada and california -- i'm sorry, nevada and arizona. >> and this is an issue in which the republicans have traditionally, and if you look at the polls in this specific election cycle, have traditionally been stronger on as far as the voters.

but the issue of mass deportation, is this something that you think and you were just saying that it's only for the base, but how big of a base could this impact? >> it's interesting to me that the harris campaign has been very smart. the vice president has been very smart about taking on this issue and not ignoring this issue or thinking we have to play defense on this issue. they have played offense on this issue and gone right at trump's strength on this, which he thought he had in the course of this. democrats to win the election don't need to win the issue. they just need to make sure that the republicans don't have a tremendous advantage. and i think the mass deportation and the separation of families are wedges that can splinter that coalition that donald trump has on this immigration issue. so in the end, i think harris is extremely smart to play offense on this issue. >> do you think that she has a responsibility to be clear on what policy she supports and

what policy she does not support? i'm just thinking the border bill at large is something that it's almost become a political pinata on both sides, but do you think there's a responsibility to be be more clear on what policies specifically she would or would not implement? >> i think clarity for the reporters voters in this, as long as we don't play the game, i think clarity is important. but i think answering question after question after question if she announceuates a clear policy on this, as i'm sure she's going to sometime in the next 71 days, clarity is important, but not playing the game is also important. >> thank you all so much for being with us this morning. coming up, what we know about this mosquito-born illness that has become concerning to a lot of communities. and just in the last couple minutes, the hearing just

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27 past the hour. former illinois sheriff deputy grayson charged with first-degree murder appeared in zoom for a pretrial hearing. he shot and killed massy when responding to her 911 call in july about a possible intruder in her home. he has pleaded not guilty to all counts. maggie vespa join us from springfield, illinois, just outside the courthouse. what's the latest? >> reporter: the late zest that he remains behind bars ahead of his murder trial. the start date was tbd. his defense team is appealing the judge's decision to keep him behind bars. they talked about that briefly giving the judge a heads up that we have appealed your ruing. that's being handled by a higher court. the two motions they kind of dealt with more substantively here today was, first, the defense said they want more time to review discovery in the case. the judge granted that. the defense also submitting a

motion about media coverage of the trial to try to limit cameras in the courtroom. the judge continuing that motion to the next hearing, which is october 21st at 9:00 a.m. in the meantime, sonia masty's family, two dozen people, are packing that courtroom every single time there is a hearing. no matter how minor or quick it might seem, whether he's there in person or zoom, no matter how procedural that day's procedures in court might be. they want to be there every single time. here's why. >> we just would like to be here every step of the way because we couldn't be there when she called for help. she needed help and couldn't get the help is she needed. it's def stating to us. we just want us to be heard. she wanted to be heard. she didn't get a chance to. she's being heard now.

>> reporter: sonya's younger cousin this. the sheriff stepping down to with a month after the shooting. i asked what she thought about that, and she said it infearuated her it took a month. if she could, she would ask him why now. jose? >> maggie vespa, thank you so much. and now to public health concerns by public health officials about a growing mosquito-born threat that's causing concerns in parts of the northeast. the head of the labor day weekend. joining us now with more on this story is stephanie gosk. good morning. what do we need to know? >> first of all, this virus that's popped up in massachusetts is rare, but it is significant enough that officials there are asking people to take precautions. >> reporter: this morning,

communities across massachusetts are on high alert after officials confirmed the first case of eastern effect wine encephalitis. >> it definitely makes me think about it. i would probably just wear long pants and sleeves. >> reporter: it's a rare but serious virus that can cause swelling of the brain. symptoms include fever, headache, vomiting and behavioral changes. according to the cdc, an estimated 30% of those infected will die. survivors are also permanently disabled suffering from long-term neurological problems. >> we're at a critical time of the year for mosquito-bourn illnesses of all kinds, including eee which has a higher risk of leading to hospitalizations and being fatal. >> reporter: authorities are so concerned they have announced plans to spray pesticides from airplanes and trucks across more than a dozen high-risk communities and several towns have either announced park closures or voluntary curfews

recommending residents limit activity outdoors from dusk until dawn when mosquitos are most active. >> i think it's ludicrous. >> reporter: the safety precautions disrupting youth sports just as the school year is getting underway. >> this shots our season down from day one. >> reporter: it comes as west nile with cases including dr. fauci, the face of the government's response to covid, who was recently hospitalized and is now recovering at home expected to make a full recovery. >> i think that if you're in a warm part of the country, which is everywhere right now, should be concerned to take precautions to protect yourself. >> the precautions aren't a lot of fun. repellant, long sleeves and pants, or stay indoors during the hours between dusk and dawn when mosquitos are the most prevalent. >> stephanie gosk, thank you so much. joining us now is dr. bedelai,

an infectious disease professor. thank you for being with us. so if you would, tell us about this west nile thing. how dangerous is it and what are the symptoms of it? >> west nile is similar to e, e, but ee, but the severity of the diseases, 30% that might get infected may have more mild symptoms or, but then you might have a majority who may have nausea, vomiting, fever, headaches, muscle takes generally resolves within a week. but in 1 in 150 cases, you may see inflammation of the brain, which is a more severe viral illness. in both cases, these are diseases transmitted by mosquitos, which are increase

ing their activity. >> so there were specific mosquitos that carry this specific disease, but how much of an increase have you seen or have you seen an increase in patients affected by this? >> i think in general what we're seeing is that welcome of predictability. with climate change, you're seeing a situation where events warmer longer. there's unpredictable rainfall. massachusetts in the spring itself, wehad 30 inches of rain, which has led to mosquitos breeding faster, biting more, and with warmer seasons, having a longer period of time to bite. so we're seeing increased risk. you're seeing in the u.s.s both eastern kwien, but they have extended to 33 states. and it's becoming a public health issue not just along the mosquito populations, but also

other tick-bourn diseases taking advantage of these warmer weathers and the ground not being frozen for as long as what we saw in the past. >> so talk to us about that. >> so same issue. underlying question is that we're seeing a warmer parts of the country that are becoming warmer. that means more species are living in more spaces for longer periods of time. same with tick-bourn diseases. you're seeing people out longer. because we do, we're seeing potential for a lot of these diseases having the opportunity to infect them longer. so i generally in the past, ten years ago in my practice, wouldn't expect to see tick-bourn diseases extended to november and december. now we have seen active cases of lyme that maybe later in the fall because falls are warmer. >> i got to tell you. here in south florida, mosquitos are common every day.

the tiger mosquitos that i have been seeing, they don't wait the until dusk or dawn. they are out 24/7. i have seen tiger mosquitos bigger than the average tiger. they are out all day and all night. how do you deal with those? >> the best thing, whether you're talking about for many of these illnesses, there are no treatments or vaccines. as you mentioned, the big part of how you protect yourself is long sleeves. wearing repellant. other thing i want to mention, and you may have heard this reporting, dr. fauci may have gotten bitten in his backyard. collections of stagnant water, make sure you don't have any in your backyard. that leads to breezing grounds. that's another way to protect yourself aside from ensuring you limit when you go out. one thing i want to mention, because you mentioned florida. when we're seeing in the southern states because you're getting different types of

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41 past the hour. kamala harris and former president trump are set to debate on september 10th, but that debate may be up in the air. the trump and harris campaigns are at an impasse for the rules. they want hot mics. it's different than the june debate between trump and president biden, when the president's team wanted mics muted while the other candidate was speaking. a short time ago, trump was asked about the debate over the debate rules, and here's some of what he had to say. >> we agreed to the same rules, same rules, the same spegsifications. that's probably what it should be. they are trying to change it. the truth is they are trying to get out of it because she doesn't want to debate. >> this comes hours after trump appeared to question taking part

in the debate during a late night social media post blasting abc news, which is the hosting party behind this first debate. with us now is michael tyler, the communications director for the harris/walz campaign. thank you for your time. so what exactly is the vice president's position on this debate? >> thank you so much for having me. her position is the same as donald trump's position because he went on to say in that same interaction that he doesn't care. it doesn't matter to him whether or not the mics are hot and that he would prefer that they were hot. this issue is resolved unless donald trump allows handlers to overrule him. he'll we'll have a debate between the two candidates with live microphones where both will be able to lay out thundershower vision where want to take this. >> i'm sorry to interrupt. keep going. >> if given that now reality, we will have a debate where vice

president harris will lay out her vision for what she wants to take this country. having an economy where folks have the opportunity not just to get by, but to get ahead. where we stand up and protect women's rights, we stand up for our democracy and on the other side of that debate stage, yol see donald trump, who has grown increasingly unhinged, who will probably try to lie about his record on abortion, even though he's out on the stump bragging about the role he played in overturning roe. you'll hear him celebrate january 6th and lay out his economic plans, which do absolutely nothing to serve the middle class, but only serve people like donald trump, the powerful corporations. that will be the fundamental contrast that the american people are able to see on september 10th at the abc debate. >> back to that september 10th debate. i don't know what the rules were agreed to previously, and is this something that it just seems like it's trite.

is that enough to not have a debate? but i'm just wondering, is this an issue that is going to make the debate -- is this a make it or break it on this debate? >> no, it shouldn't be because donald trump said it doesn't matter to him. he's comfortable with live microphones throughout the debate. >> does it matter to the harris debate? is that enough? >> that's absolutely our preference to have live microphones so the american people can see both candidates for who they are. and hear everything that comes out of their mouths. donald trump will be on the debate stage and talk about his plans to ban abortion, interject and rant and rave. the american people deserve to see that. >> it just seems like it's such a minor point to be canceling or not a debate. i'm glad that you cleared that one up. let's see if there's any

response by the trump campaign. meanwhile -- >> trump has made his response. he agrees with our position. so we look forward to the debate on september 10th with live mics between the two candidates. that's what the american people te serve to see and apparently that's what they will see. >> i want your thoughts on robert f. kennedy dropping out and endorsing trump. any repurr cushions that could affect your campaign? >> no, listen, i think what you saw from rfk throughout his campaign as he was large thely funded by trump's donors, it's no surprise he ultimately dropped out and endorsed donald trump. i think what our plan is and what our message is to many of the voters who were with him, if you're concerned about the fundamental threat by donald trump, if you're concerned about where democracy is headed f you're concerned about government interfering in

people's personal lives, there's a home for you in kamala harris' campaign. we're going to do everything in our power to continue to grow the ticket, expand our base over the course of the next 72 days. i think what you saw out of chicago was not just a democrats united in their support, but you saw the full diversity of america behind the vice president. you had independents like oprah, jeff duncan and adam kinzinger talking about the fact that voting for kamala harris doesn't make you a democrat, it makes you a patriot. that's our message to voters as we approach the home stretch of this campaign. >> i'm thinking about the issue of immigration and the humanitarian crisis at the border, which means are two different issues, but there's the border bill. how important is it for everyone to be clear on their definition

of what they would support and not support. the factors of immigration to the united states. >> both candidates have been clear about this the vice president herself said that if the bipartisan border security bill that was ready to go until donald trump entered the chat and blew it up because he thought he would benefit him, she'll sign it into law. donald trump will not because he's not interested in border security and to hear what he talks about. he talks about the return of family separation, ripping babies away from their mother, he talks about ending birthright citizenship. it's all about inflaming tensions here and serving donald trump. you have one candidate who is serious about border security, who is serious about comprehensive immigration reform. kamala harris. you have another interested in serving himself and that's

donald trump. that's the contrast on this issue and, frankly, all issues. kamala harris is fighting to bring people together in search of solutions. donald trump, who is only interested in serving himself, no matter what the issue is. >> let's continue our conversation going forward. i want to focus in more with details on the issues that you just mentioned about border security, about the humanitarian crisis at the border. i thaing for being with us. it was a pleasure. >> i appreciate it. thank you for having me. after launching on what was supposed to be a roughly week-long test flight, nasa says two astronauts stuck in space won't be home until 2025. we're in august. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. "jo diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. your area, you may be eligible to get extra benefits with a humana medicare advantage dual-eligible special needs plan. all these

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53 past the hour. nasa announced the two astronauts stuck at the international space station will not be returning on the boeing starliner capsule. instead, they will return on a spacex craft next year. two astronauts have been stranded in space since early june. joining us now is marisa para in cape canaveral, florida. >> reporter: this was announced on saturday. they had a flight readiness review then the head of nasa, bill nelson, announced as you

said. the two astronauts who have been stuck on month three, that is going to be extended to nearly nine months. they are not going down to earth the way they came up. they are not going on boeing starliner. instead, they'll be hitching a ride, if you will, with spacex. the dragon capsule is going to bring them down. that was previously scheduled. i can explain in a moment, but in terms of why that decision was made, because that's the big question here. safety has always been the top priority and nasa has made that very clear. not just here with boeing starliner but from the very beginning with every mission citing previous failures with previous missions saying they have learned from their mistakes. we know from the beginning, there have been issues with helium leaks and those thrusters. they did a lot of ground testing.

scientists, engineers were coming together to try to assess whether or not it was safe enough to bring those astronauts back home and ultimately, they said it wasn't worth the risk. so they're going to hitch a ride with spacex. this is a previously scheduled mission. this is scheduled to launch in september. they're going to save two seats for those astronauts and they'll come back down in february. this news is coming before another major mission for spacex and this is happening tomorrow. i'll see you tomorrow on that. that's polaris dawn. we're going to see humans do things we haven't seen them do before. >> looking forward to that. it looks like you're going to get hit with some heavy rain in about 30 seconds. >> we're going to go inside soon. >> please do. that wraps up the hour for me. i thank you for the privilege of your time. you can always reach me on social media at jd balart. you can watch clips from our show on youtube at

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