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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," high tension in the middle east stokes fears of a wider war after israel and hezbollah trade missiles. what will that tension do to cease fire talks in cairo between israel and hamas? in what feels like the last chance to get a deal done. back in the u.s. with party conventions in the rear-view mirror, the sprint for the white house begins and former president trump uses publicly about skipping the september 10th debate an abc. we'll tell you about the potential rule change that could kill the face-to-face. >> when i looked at the hostility of that, i said why am i doing it? let's do it with another network. i want to do it. they also want to change the rules. the deal was we want to change the rules.
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now all of a sudden, they want to make a change in the rules because she can't answer questions. >> good to be with you. i'm katy tur reporting from new york as andrea mitchell takes some much deserved time off. sunday, israel launched preemptive strikes on southern lebanon to disrupt, they argue, a large scale attack by hezbollah. hezbollah responded with a predawn assault of missiles of its and drones against military installations across the country. the group's leader said in a televised speech on sunday that the attack, a retaliation for the assassination of a top commander in beirut, went as planned. now both sides are claiming victory. >> i believe that the success of the operation yesterday prevented an escalation to a major war. the threat is still there.
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we still need a settlement with hezbollah and lebanon. >> that is the israeli ambassador to the u.s. this man here, benjamin netanyahu, warned that israel's strikes on hezbollah are not the end to the story. and in a signal that the u.s. is still worried, lloyd austin ordered two strike carriers to remain in the region. cease fire talks are still ongoing. now, in egypt even as hamas says its delegation has left cairo. >> what i believe now is that it is incumbent on all parties in the region to work towards deescalation and stability. and so we are feverishly working in cairo as we speak with our team and the teams of the other mediators as well as with the israelis to get to a cease fire and hostage deal. >> now from tel aviv is matt
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bradley and nbc news investigative reporter, dan delouis. how is it looking and how have this weekend's attacks placed pressure on any cease fire? >> reporter: the prospects of a cease fire are about as grim as they were since last november with the last successful cease fire that released about half of the hostages and brought peace for about a week to the gaza strip. we've heard from hamas, the israelis that it doesn't look good. the main sticking point is something that was added more recently by netanyahu, israel's prime minister. he said he wants to see a more permanent troop presence on the philadelphia corridor. another name for the border between egypt's sinai peninsula and the gaza strip. it was only a couple of months ago the israelis took that over during their operation to take over rafah. now, it's looking as though
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that's a major sticking point and something that netanyahu had added on even after the biden administration said that the deal they presented and put in front of the security council at the united nations that was voted almost unanimously, that deal has been changed by the israelis. we're starting to see this pattern where the administration keeps saying there is a deal, that israel has already exceeded to it and hamas is the one holding out. that consistently is not the case because we keep hearing hamas saying we have agreed to this deal but now the israelis are changing it and we're even hearing, we're hearing this from media in america and elsewhere, that this is the israelis who are making changes, holding out. saying that this wasn't the right deal even though the u.s. administration keeps saying we're close to a deal and it's hamas that's holding out. so once again, we're hearing a lot of these signals from both sides. the u.s. administration, the biden administration saying everybody agrees to this.
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especially israel. hamas hasn't agreed. but we're hearing from hamas and the israelis saying this deal is looking increasingly unlikely. that's a big problem because even though there's been this kind of cathartic violence between israel and lebanon that really seemed to, while it was the worst violence we've seen in nearly two decades over this border, it seemed to tamp down tensions because as you mentioned, both sides declared victory and there were no civilian casualties and little damage and that really brought the temperature down after a month of what everybody was expecting to be possibly the breakout of a region wide war. we're still waiting on iran because iran, like hezbollah, has vowed to take vengeance against an assassination they blame on the israelis in tehran of a senior hamas official. now, i heard from a senior israeli official yesterday and was told that the fact is that
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israelis believe the iranian are going to be delaying their reprisal attack until they see the end of these negotiations. so as long as the diplomats are talking, the guns are silent somewhat especially when it comes to the confrontation between israel and iran. that could set the entire middle east on a path toward region wide war. so as long as we're still seeing these hostage negotiations going on even though the prospect of them succeeding is unlikely, it's still forestalling the prospect of a horrific war. >> i want to get to dan on that in a moment and the u.s.'s feeling about it because obviously the u.s. has feelings about the potential for a wider war given the assets staying in the region. i'm reading conflicting accounts of where they thinks stand. on one hand, you have one of the former prime ministers of israel
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saying that netanyahu wants there to be a wider war. don't count on any sort of concessions from him. there will never be a cease fire. he doesn't want one. he's a big, big opponent of netanyahu. but then you also have david ignatius in "the washington post" analyzing the situation and saying listen, even amid all of the violence and the violence of this weekend, the talks are still ongoing. and that in itself is a very hopeful sign. matt. >> reporter: yes, sorry. i thought you were going to down. the fact is yes, we are still seeing from the administration, again, this is a pattern that's been repeating itself over and over again. blasts of optimism from the biden administration. pessimism from the qataris and egyptians and the main parties involved. the israelis and hamas. so this is a pattern, again, that we've been seeing since november. time and time again, but i don't want to say it's not possible
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and i don't want to say there isn't a deal that could be in the offing. it could happen. but the fact is, we've seen this pattern on and on and it doesn't look like this is going to be different. >> dan, given we seen this pattern and the fact iran hasn't taken any retaliatory steps, at least not yet, tell me about how the u.s. feels. i think it's pretty obvious considering the assets, but bring me into the decision to send or to keep those carrier groups within the region. >> well, you know, katy, i think the administration just believes that just having the talks as that column by david ignatius explains, just having the cease fire talks continuing is positive. it's a way of at least trying to contain a very volatile situation. it's a way of perhaps staving off retaliatory tech by iran as
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matt was saying. of course, yes, at the same time, the u.s. is trying to deter and discourage both iran and hezbollah and its proxies not to take drastic military action. that's why you have this large u.s. military presence now with aircraft carrier groups fighter jets and so on. this is all a way of trying to signal the u.s. does not want to see a wider war. but the danger all along since october 7th, since that hamas attack, has always been, and the white house has said this, an unintended conflict. an accidental war in which you have this kind of tit for tat cycle where hezbollah or hamas or israel are all trying to send a message and retaliate and then you have the spiraling cycle of violence that turns into a full blown war. but the u.s. does still believe that iran does not seek a direct war with israel or the u.s. they would prefer to inflict
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damage on israel through its proxies, through hamas and hezbollah. i think that's the view of officials in the administration. >> again, they're proxies. hamas, hezbollah, houthis. proxies. you always run the risk they'll make a decision you wouldn't necessarily make. thank you very much. and in 90 seconds, lawmakers investigating the assassination attempt on former president trump head to the scene of the crime. we're going to talk to the top democrat of that task force. you're watching msnbc. k force. you're watching msnbc. s a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com. [coughing] copd isn't pretty. i'm out of breath, and often out of the picture.
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today, house members investigating what went wrong when a gunman was able to get a clear shot at former president trump last month are at the site of the assassination attempt in butler, pennsylvania. joining us now, ken dilanian. what will this task force be doing? >> some of these lawmakers have already visited the site but wanted to go back as a group to sort of get a visceral feel for the scene as they conduct this investigation and perhaps hear from local officials in person. the task force is chaired by pennsylvania republican, mike kelly, a butler native who represents the area and was at the rally when the shots were fired. and the ranking democrat is your next guest. jason crow, an army combat veteran. their goal is to figure out what went wrong and make sure it never happens again. some of the questions they're trying to answer are obvious. why was the rooftop left
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unprotected? why didn't the radio warning of a man on a roof reach mr. trump? and why did those agents allow mr. trump to take the stage when hunting for a suspicious person with a range finder. also questions about technology including why is secret service wasn't allowed to employ its technology. we learned recently that multiple secret service agents have been placed on administrative duty at more and more damning information emerges. there have been reports that the secret service was offered a local police drone but declined and was offered radios to communicate with local police but didn't pick them up. and radio transmissions show a butler officer complaining that he warned the secret service to post someone on that roof. what this committee wants to understand is why they happened and who exactly was responsible
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for that day. >> ken, thank you very much. joining me now is the top democrat as promised of the task force investigating the assassination attempt. jason crow, a veteran who served three combat tours in iraq and afghanistan. thanks for joining us. what are the open questions you want answered today? >> first, i want to state that something really significant happened last month when congress created this task force. that is every single voting member that day, every democrat and every republican voted, 416-0, to create this task force. i think that just shows the seriousness of this effort, the bipartisan nature of this effort. congress is taking this very seriously. we have a responsibility to do this completely quickly and thoroughly and that's what we're going to do. so this is the real start of our investigation. we've had for for documents,
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witness testimony. i've learned and army rangers that there's no substitute for being on site and seeing the ground itself. we're going to look at the buildings, the perimeter, the podium and platform. and then we're going to convene and talk to local law enforcement officials and have a listening section to understand their challenges that day. >> do you have a sense of who's to blame for this? i know the secret service director stepped down after a lot of pressure. is it the local agents onsite? the local law enforcement? who is to blame for what happened? >> well, that's what we're going to find out. we're going to do this thoroughly and in a sequential manner. we're not going to jump to conclusions. we're going to gather the facts and figure out what the standards were, what should what happened, what didn't happen. then apply the facts to the standards then push for accountability. we know there were a series of failures. a lot of things that you don't have to be a security expert
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that went wrong. why wasn't that rooftop secured? why weren't law enforcement and secret service talking to each other effectively? why wasn't there an air cap to prevent drone flying over the site? those are just a few of the things we have to get answers to and we will. >> there is a heritage event happening in d.c. now attended by a number of republican lawmakers who are looking into the assassination attempt, they say. matt gaetz one of them. andy biggs, another. republican corey mills is also there. he suggested the failure was intentional. how much does this effort that we're seeing affect what you guys are doing? >> it doesn't. we're not focused on that effort. we are the congressionally mandated effort as i said at the beginning. every single member of congress voting on this voted to create this task force as a serious
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task force. we have staff, resource, security consultants and subpoena power. we're in contact with secret service, homeland security. we're going to get the information, we're going to do this quickly but thoroughly and answer the questions that americans deserve to have answered. >> so today is the third anniversary of that withdrawal of afghanistan which did not go well. the former president, donald trump, is trying to blame all of that on the biden administration. now he's trying to say kamala harris owns some of that as well. do you believe she does? >> well, first off, i mourn those 13 service members who were killed three years ago today. as well as the over 2400 americans who died over the 20 year of that war. this is a war that spanned four administrations, republican and democrat. it spanned ten congress'.
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what i can tell you though right now is that america's sons and daughters, our service members, are not fighting and dying in afghanistan because joe biden made the hard decision to end that war, which years ago, i learned was not winnable militarily. so we are not losing our young folks anymore because of that decision. >> donald trump also put the plans in place to make sure that withdrawal happened under the biden administration. one other question for you. about kamala harris and our foreign policy. do you see it as distinct from donald trump and his foreign policy? >> of course. she's a different person. a different leader with different experiences and we already saw that she is very clear talking about the israel gaza thing, for example. she made it clear israel has a right to defend itself, which i
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agree with. but the manner in which it does so is really important. it's important to americans. all of our aid and support to any ally anywhere, not just this particular issue, but anywhere, has to be in accordance with americans' interests. she's already signaling her own perspective and background will inform her approach. i'm frankly excited for america to see her leadership and for her to make the case over the next couple of months about how she's going to usher in this new era of leadership. >> i have questions about what she's going to focus on, but since israel and gaza is in the news now and so top of mind, do you see her as treating israel any differently than president biden is treating the country right now? >> well, like i said, she said clearly she supports israel's right to defend itself but the manner in which it does so is critical. it's key. we have to center the protection of civilians. we have to center humanitarian issues. i learned in three combat tours
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in iraq and afghanistan that when you're fighting terrorism, you can't just do it militarily. you have to use diplomacy. humanitarian aid. if you don't center the protection of civians in combat zones, you actually create a bigger problem than you're solving. if you could do it just with military support, united states wouldn't have been able to defeat the taliban. would have able to defeat al qaeda and isis after 20 years of war, spending trillions of dollars. but guess what. we didn't do it. so the lesson learned for america there is that you have to center the rights of all folks and that's why i can push for a two-state solution. >> just as the president has been doing. i'll save that question for another interview. i'd like to get a little bit more about whether there would be actual differences in maybe the way we're arming israel or the amount of lee way we give the country going forward. i'm still unclear on that. congressman, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you.
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oo this is a good book title. explosions rocked central kyiv today as russia launched more than 100 missiles and drones at ukraine. president zelenskyy condemned the barrage, calling it a terror tactic. joining me now from kharkiv,
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ukraine, is erin mcloughlin. what has it been like there? >> reporter: we're just getting new information from ukrainian officials saying that ukraine's air defense systems essentially working overtime today. ukraine downed 102 of the 127 russian missiles that were fired on this country today. 99 of 109 drones that were fired and it is worth noting that ukraine's air defense systems have remarkably improved since the beginning of this war thanks in large part to western assistance. just on friday, president biden announced he had another $125 million aid package for ukraine. a big part of that contributing to additional air defense systems. really illustrating why that assistance is so critical and necessary. in total from today's attack, four civilians were killed.
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19 injured and civilian energy infrastructure badly damaged which according to ukrainian officials appear to be the target of today's attack. it is worth noting though that we woke up at 8:00 a.m. to the sounds of explosions here and went to the basement with other ukrainians and metro stations doubling as bomb shelters. but once the threat was over, life went back to normal pretty instantaneously. it was though nothing happened which really sort of illustrates just how this war has become a part of every day life here in ukraine. >> thank you. and right now, an arizona judge is hearing new arguments in the ongoing 2020 fake electors scheme. at least a dozen of the defendants are asking the judge to throw out the case. vaughn hillyard is of course following this for us. you do trump, arizona. talk to me about what they're arguing. they're trying to say that this
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case should never have been brought. >> they say that chris mays, she campaigned on bringing charges against the fake electors. >> this is the attorney general. >> this is the attorney general. and right now what is being argued is that political speech crossed the line into ultimately actual action within the justice system. so we are going to hear about these motions to dismiss. there's still 16 of the individuals pleading not guilty at this point so of course as we've seen in the other cases relevant to fake electors, we have seen these motions to dismiss. >> why are 12 making the motion to dismiss and others not? >> jenna ellis had a cooperation agreement and one has agreed to plead guilty and sentenced to probation. for these 16, much like what we saw in georgia, there's a will
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the lot of questions about immunity. what extent to the actions they took. is it worth going through and having these motions be tossed out. that's what each of them are trying to do at this point. >> kari lake running for senate in arizona. today is the deadline to produce documents in a defamation lawsuit filed against her. >> this is the big one. steven richer, the maricopa county recorder. the one overseeing the tabulating of the votes in maricopa county. he's a republican. doing it again in 2024. did it in 2022. lake claims she won the election in 2022, which she did not. she said a lot of things about him to the extent he helped oversee what was a fraudulent election. he filed a defamation suit so as part of this, the judge ordered her to turn over evidence as part of the discovery process. one of the big things she's being forced to turnover is how
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much money did she race through what is called the save arizona fund after the 2022 election. she and that fund still have never turned over the financial disclosures to the irs. we're talking about potentially millions of dollars that kari lake and advisers made. kind of sounds like donald trump in 2020. so as part of this suit, steven richer, who's likely going to be getting that amount of money, and frankly, i don't know how much it is, but we may be looking at millions of dollars that lake through this fund was able to raise and potentially spend for travel to iowa. travel to mar-a-lago. travel for hotels. there's a lot of questions that we as the public don't have answers to but because of this defamation suit, we may get just over two months until this election. >> before you go, i want to show a picture from a rally over the weekend. this one was in arizona. lake was on stage and which is what the prompter read.
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she's being asked to get off the stage. what is the relationship between her and the trump folks? >> trump waiting. donald trump even when he was mentioning the republicans who were in the crowd, he goes i was going to welcome her to the stage, but she already went over her time and spoke a lot. >> also kicked off a local police officer official saying he needed to wrap it up and leave. >> right. you know that if you're somebody welcomed up on stage with donald trump, you shouldn't talk too long because nobody should get in the way of donald trump. and clearly, kari lake is somebody who in polling now is polling under donald trump in the state of arizona and we have seen this with other senate candidates. martha mcsally. one time she was in the crowd when running for the senate in arizona. polling under him in 2020. he was frustrated with her and gave a shutout to another in the crowd saying she would have been a good senate candidate. donald trump's patient, the one who says she's trump in high
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heels, may be waning. >> take a page out of the oscars. thank you very much. and coming up next, debating the debate. two weeks before the first presidential face off between these two candidates at least. the harris and trump teams back and forth are getting angry about the rules. that's how i'll put it. don't go anywhere. e rules. that's how i'll put it don't go anywhere. ♪♪ [announcer] introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. she thinks her flaky, gray patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. over here! otezla can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required. doctors have been prescribing otezla for over a decade. otezla is also approved to treat psoriatic arthritis. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting.
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a lot to debate about the next presidential debate which would be the first between trump and harris. this after some back and forth over whether to keep the microphones on. harris' team wants the mikes to stay hot throughout the debate. but initially, donald trump's team wasn't having it and trump himself said that abc news isn't fair and maybe he should skip the debate all together. here's then what he told reporters this morning in falls church, virginia. >> do you still plan on the abc debate? >> you know, i watched this weekend and it's the worst of all networks. george slopadololis and all the people. when i looked at the hostility of that, i said let's look another network. i won because of the debates. asked biden.
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>> i think it's so funny to see that woman taking a selfie as he's calling george stephanopoulos a name. joining us now, gabe gutierrez and kimberly atkins store and former campaign manager for president obama's 2012 re-election, jim messina, are all here to chew over this. gabe, what's going on? i read just a moment ago the debate's back on. is it? >> reporter: technically was never off. former president trump just made it seem like it could be off. the debate over the debate as you put it escalated last night when he posted on social media and what he called a biased interview and suggested he might skip it. there is a separate issue here though which is that the harris campaign wants hot mikes the entire debate. in other words, they don't want them to be muted when the other candidate is speaking and that's the opposite of what president biden's wanted during the first debate in atlanta.
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you might remember they wanted the mikes shut off to sort of reign in donald trump and how the argument is reversed it seems. the harris campaign releasing this statement overnight. the vice president is ready to deal with trump's constant lying and interruptions. they say it's the harris campaign trying to change the rules by asking for opening statements, a seated debate and the ability to refer to notes. the harris campaign is flatly denying asking for any of that and trump this morning seemed to go against his campaign's statement by saying he'd rather the mikes stay on. bottom line, at this point, it's devolved into quite the back and forth with the debate less than two and a half weeks away. i was thinking what if we had a non partisan organization that could sort all of this out. that could provide a time tested format that was consistent and agreed to by both campaigns. maybe we could call it something like the commission on presidential debates or something like that.
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>> you know, i think that's -- >> oh, wait. >> a really great idea. the problem with the commission on presidential debates, they always had an audience. i don't want an audience. i like the idea of having it in a studio solo so you don't have to hear the crowds cheering or clapping or booing when asked not to. all right. jim, is it a good idea to let donald trump loose? have him on hot mike? what is the thinking behind that from the harris team? >> oh, absolutely. because the truth is the more this race is about donald trump, the more people remember why they didn't like him in the first place. i kind of get it from the trump campaign. they're like, look, we can't make this about donald trump because after three presidential elections, everyone has an opinion about donald trump. we have to try to go define kamala harris. and the worst way to do that is to have donald trump saying crazy stuff all over the
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national networks. so i'd want a mute button if i was them, too, but the harris campaign absolutely wants people to see donald trump in his actual, real live environment and see all the crazy things he's likely going to want to say. so once again, you have the harris campaign that is just playing major league baseball with a trump campaign that is fighting in front of the national networks with their candidate. these guys can't shoot straight. they're sitting on their couches wanting to go crazy as their candidate says nutty things 71 days before the election. >> susan, is it effective for donald trump to be calling names? insulting kamala harris' iq. did it a few minutes ago on his truth social. is this still effective for him? >> no. it's hurt him in the past and will continue to hurt him. first of all, he can't even settle on something to call vice president harris.
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he can't get his arms around the fact he's even running against her. he's been all over the place and on his heels which is why i think we see so much of this flip-flopping on the debate issue. yes, i want an open mike. no, i don't. i want to have it. abc's not good. it is good. he doesn't know what to do and i think this is the first time we've really seen him have a problem defining the other candidate down to ugly nicknames. >> let's move on to something more substantial. this was "meet the press" this weekend. kristen welker asking jd vance about whether a new trump administration, if he does win, would separate families. >> will families be separated under your mass deportation policy? >> i think they're currently being separated and you're going to have to deport some people in this country. >> so that's a yes. >> what harris says is that donald trump wants to separate
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families. kamala harris' policies have led to thousands upon thousands of migrant children living with sex traffickers and drug cartels. that is the consequence of her policies. >> but there's not a policy to separate families. >> if you know your policies will lead to family separation, you don't -- kristen, this is important. kamala harris cannot claim she doesn't know her policies lead to family separation. they are. and everybody knows it and she has to take responsibility. >> so really dodging that question. my colleague, jacob, asked don jr. about that at the convention. i asked eric trump a version of it when he was on my show at the convention. this mass deportation policy the republicans want to institute. they had signs with it at their convention. there are a lot of mixed families in this country where some people have legal status and others do not. kimberly, what did young of vance's efforts to turn it back
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around on the harris team? >> i think he was trying to dodge the inconvenient truth that not only does the platform he stands for as you pointed out called for mass deportations and doesn't in the previous trump administration had a zero tolerance policy for separating children and it's also laid out in project 2025 that the biden harris administration has actually slowed the separation of families while at the same time cutting back dramatically on border crossings and even asylum cases. they're hearing fewer asylum cases. not just accepting fewer. and that has led to a dramatic drop in illegal border crossings. the republicans love the idea of immigration and campaigning on it but people, voters, want a solution to the immigration system overall and don't want to
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do it in an inhumane way and because the biden administration has actually made headway in that through executive action, it's very difficult for them to try to push, make that case against them without double speaking and misstating facts the way vance did. >> but the republicans poll better on immigration. they're talking about their solution is to deport everybody. the democrats' argument is that they wanted legislation on this. this is something that has to be fixed on the congressional level. there's got to be a new policy at the border and they came up with a bipartisan policy that president biden said he was going to sign. when you look at the polls, donald trump still has an edge. why do the republicans continue to have an edge on immigration? >> because historically, democrats haven't wanted to talk about it and i agree with kimberly. republicans are now on the defense on this because they have to defend voting against the bill you just talked about
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and now they have to defend separating kids. i was watching focus groups in arizona and nevada over the weekend and latino voters went straight to this child issue and said look, we agree we need to have a tougher border but you cannot separate kids here. that's ridiculous. it's clear he's just playing politics. so what was once a clear cut winner for the republicans has now become more of a problem as jd vance spent minute after minute on the defense with kristen welker. i think they started to screw this issue up. but to your point, democrats have to talk about it. they've got to go straight at it and not pretend it's not an issue because this is an issue swing voters care about. >> they did try to talk about it at the dnc. they had a whole night where they said immigration was going to be the focus. thank you so much. coming up next, we are tracking tropical storm hone off the coast of hawaii and a major heat wave that is frying the midwest.
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season, but we have other activity other places around the globe. and it just happens to be the active spots. this is the big island. this is where we have the large volcanos. the peaks are up there 13,000 feet. that's why we have 25 inches of rain. that's why you have the dramatic pictures with the incredible waterfalls. notice the rain. it is just about ending here. honolulu, it looks like the rain stopped here for you. that's great. there is the storm we just talked about. gilma is a strong hurricane. but as it approaches the hawaii islands, it should weaken, but it will bring increased clouds and a little rainfall. behind that, hector is heading in that general direction, but this one stays weak. we don't have any big impacts towards hawaii. but the beginning of labor day weekend and possibly the end, they have weak storms that will be affecting the area.
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anyone traveling there, not ideal if you're heading to hawaii. >> what about the midwest, bill? it's burning up. >> yeah. heat waves are really bad at the beginning of summer when we're not used to them and the end of summer. we have kids at practices outside. we have teachers in classrooms. maybe the window air-conditioners aren't efficient. especially that's the case when we talk about late season heat waves in the northern half of the country. minnesota, chicago is included in this, too. we're just heading towards the noon lunch hour in this portion of the country. we already feel like 94 in chicago. this is the feels like temperature. remember, these numbers are in the shade, too. omaha is at 97. by the way, yesterday was the hottest day of the summer in kansas city. so, yeah, this has been -- it hasn't been a blistering hot summer by midwest standards, but it is making up for it.
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tomorrow chicago could feel like 110 degrees as we take all this hot air and send it east. we will start to creep up in the mid atlantic. it looks like wednesday is the peak day for the heat. richmond 102. as we head towards labor day weekend, thankfully, as we head towards the travel, we will have to deal with thunderstorms. friday will probably be a little bit of an issue. we will also be watching the temperatures drop, too. d.c. mid-80s. same for you in raleigh. chicago 88 and cincinnati about 88 there. so, katie, there is some good out of this. as we head towards the labor day weekend, things will settle down. >> 110 in chicago. i bet everybody who was there for the convention is counting their lucky stars they were there last week and not this week. thank you very much. that's going to do it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media. i will be right back here with you, don't worry, at 3:00 p.m.
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(♪♪) ♪♪ good day. i'm chris jansing live in new york city. the great debate divide. team harris says the september 10th faceoff is now happening. donald trump himself still not fully committing. wi