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argument, as republicans have continued to lose in special elections in swing districts over the right to abortion. the bans in the aftermath to the dobbs decision, along with attacks and limitations on ivf with proving to be a major liability for the gop, including the guy at the top. the one who supreme court nominees overturned roe v. wade. but donald trump is trying to run away from all of that, telling nbc's dasha burns he would make the federal government pay for ivf without providing details, and also saying he'd vote against the six-week abortion ban in florida. a vote his campaign says he hasn't actually decided on. so who are these new pronouncements targeting, and will those voters believe him? joining us now in lansing, michigan, nbc news correspondent dasha burns, and nbc news white house correspondent aaron gilchrist. what did dasha tell you. >> reporter: to your point just

now about who this is targeting, let's think about this. there's a gender gap that's pronounced now that harris is at the top of the ticket, and the polling shows the vice president is in the lead when it comes to female voters. that's that contrast, that backdrop. take a listen to what the former president told me about the six-week abortion ban in florida and the amendment to overturn it and expand abortion rights in the states. take a listen. >> i think the six week is too short, has to be more time, and so i've told them i want more weeks. >> you will vote in favor of the amendment? >> i'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. look, so you understand, everybody wanted roe v. wade terminated for years, 52 years. i got it done. they wanted to go back to the states. >> reporter: so the campaign overnight trying to clarify and clean up those comments saying that he has not said how he'll vote on the abortion ballot initiative.

it would overturn the six-week ban and expand abortion to the point of viability, 24 weeks. it's not like trump gets to choose how many weeks, it's yes or no on that amendment. >> thank you very much. this issue of reproductive rights, the democrats are leaning hard into it. this bus tour through donald trump's backyard, palm beach, florida, kamala harris and vp tim walz are not going to be on the bus tour, but who's going to be there, and what are they hoping to get out of it? >> we understand this bus tour will launch on tuesday in palm beach, florida, featuring amy klobuchar, as well as julie chavez rodriguez, the campaign manager for the effort. and their intention is talk about things we have heard before, their criticism of donald trump and j.d. vance for their position on reproductive freedom. also now we do have this new talking point that the former

president suggesting the insurance companies would pay for ivf, and the campaign has said that is a lie, and donald trump and republicans have put in their platform a position that could effectively ban ivf and abortion nationwide, and so i think that's something you can expect to hear them really trying to hit home as this bus tour launches, expected to cover 50 stops, and include at some point, the second gentleman, doug emhoff and gwen walz. she spoke about this issue at a campaign stop. >> here are the facts, and there aren't any alternative to these. donald trump is the one who took down roe and put access to ivf at risk. that's a fact. and he's running on a platform that puts these treatments at risk nationwide, and that's a fact. >> now, mrs. walz went on to say

donald trump is trying to rewrite his record on reproductive health care, and katy, i think that we can expect to hear that said much more forcefully or as forcefully as you just heard it as this new bus tour rolls out next week and we see mrs. walz as a part of the effort. >> good to have you. joining us now, former communications director for vice president kamala harris. ashley etienne, when donald trump is saying that he would potentially not vote or not vote for a six-week ban in florida, it's putting a lot of pro life groups in a weird position. they're angry with him, and nbcnews.com, and sahil kapur compiled a ton of reporting on this. the head of the susan b. anthony pro life america group called trump on thursday, according to a source with knowledge, and told her she didn't like this. trump didn't state a position on the amendment, in his home state's ballot this fall.

you also have another evangelical theologian saying that donald trump's criticism of florida abortion restrictions and its call for government funding on ivf, and his recent statement about reproductive rights seem calculated to alienate pro life voters, eric erickson saying if he loses this is what's going to cost him the victory, what's going to cost him the white house. i could go on. there are more. why, i know you're a democrat, but why do you think donald trump is trying to moderate on this issue? >> listen, i'm a democrat that's incredibly gleeful at this moment. donald trump's totally deteriorating, i mean, he's desperate to find new voters. he realizes that this issue has been a winner for democrats over the last two cycles since he reversed roe v. wade. and, i mean, he bragged about doing that. this, again, this will continue to be a winning issue for democrats. this is why vice president harris and governor walz are going to be barn storming the

country, kicking off their reproductive rights tour in palm beach, which i just find incredibly trump-esque. needling him in his own backyard. it also suggests florida is in place. this is an issue where he's trying to reverse himself, he realizes such a loser for his party. but i don't think he can. i mean, the reality is women will not be fooled by this sort of fake change of heart by the former president. >> what about his proposal to make ivf paid for by the federal government, that is something that a lot of families would really like. it is very expensive, private insurance will pay for a couple of rounds of it, but that's it. >> i don't know who would believe donald trump's word. he also said mexico was going to pay for the wall, he was going to lower health care costs, he did none of that. he was going to reverse obamacare, which he did not do at all. still hasn't come up with a health care plan. the reality is this should settle the hearts of

republicans. donald trump is not serious about this. this is pandering at it worst. i don't know who's going to be fooled by the president or who believes he's sincere about doing what he's going to do. again, he has a habit a history of failing to make good on his promises. >> we saw kamala harris and governor tim walz sit down for an interview with cnn's dana bash yesterday, and they got into policy a little bit. but there has been this criticism out there that they're not going far enough. she's only been on the campaign trail for a few weeks. just got nominated a couple of weeks ago. she also is part of an administration whose policy is pretty clear. is it your sense that voters really don't know where she stands? >> no, i don't think that this is even an issue in the minds of most voters. i mean, if you look at where she is in the polls, she's surging in the polls. but also the metrics by which you measure the strength of an election or a candidacy right now is based on the money. she's got $540 million in the bank, 200,000 volunteers.

that's the measure of the strength of a candidacy, and it's also the measure of momentum. she's got momentum behind her. i think this is a washington, d.c., inside the beltway kind of controversy that's really being stoked by republicans, because they have very little else to attack kamala harris on, and nothing they have attacked her on so far is landing. she rolled out an entire economic agenda, maybe two weeks ago, very detailed, talking about increasing availability of housing, of affordability of housing, going after price gouging to lower the cost for american families, put more money in their pockets. she talked about their history of really going after corporate greed. i'm not sure -- i feel like this is just a reach on the part of the republican party because they can't find any other thing to land on the vice president. >> she got into details on housing and talked about getting rid of zoning restrictions and giving more money to developers

to juice the number of houses that are built, and a $6,000 child tax credit for the first year that you have a baby, including more tax credits during the duration of their childhood. there was a little bit more meat on the bone for those policy. the price gouging one, not a lot of indication of how she would actually get that one done because the definition of price gouging can vary. i do want to ask you, though, about the debates, and there is still this, you know, back and forth about whether the mics will be muted during the duration of the debate. this is obviously something that president biden had asked for. they got for the first debate. kamala harris doesn't want it. if she's not able to get her way with that, to make the mic's turned on for the duration of the debate, do you think she can still effectively show that donald trump or still effectively get under his skin the way the campaign wants to? >> absolutely, i mean, she's a

former prosecutor who, as i continuously say on television, my experience with her is that she suffers no fool. so i think what she's probably prepping to do is figure out how to strategically needle donald trump, how to get under his skin. there's one other thing. i know there's nothing that unhinges donald trump more than a strong, powerful woman challenging him. i used to be speaker pelosi's communications director, and i remember those years where she stood up to him, and he totally crumbled, and i think that's what's going to happen in this debate. either mics on or off, he's going to continue to be donald trump. that's exactly what the campaign wants, but i think what she's going to try to do is strategically needle him to get under his skin and make him actually unravel. >> is it an advantage or disadvantage that she's never met him? >> i don't think either matters but i think it could be an advantage that she's not met him. but here's the thing, we know everything there is to know

about donald trump. you don't have to meet him to know him, right, so we know him to be a very small, petty, simple-minded individual who could care less about the american people. only cares about himself, and that's what he's demonstrated. i think the split screen with him on one side, her on the other, him looking small, angry, like yesterday, and her looking like the very promise of america is going to really resonate with people, and it's going to tell the spire story. donald trump has proven and the republican party can say it better than i am, he can't help himself but be donald trump, that's going work to her advantage. whether she's met him or not, it's not going to matter much. >> i was talking to amy walter of the cook political report yesterday, looking at the polling now, these debates could make a difference in where the election goes. ashley etienne, thank you very much for joining us. it's good to have you. it's a dead heat. kamala harris is rounding out the month with a wipeout of

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new polling from bloomberg and morning consult once again shows harris is in the lead, but it also shows that lead is within the margin of error. joining us now, senior editor and elections analyst for the cook political report, dave wasserman, i quoted amy walter so i love that you're here as well, dave. tell me, when you look at these polls, they're still within the margin of error. do you see an upward trend right now for the harris team? >> well, i think we see stability, and it's probably not fair to expect a big convention bounce given that she had a very favorable past 40 days, she reintroduced herself to voters and the trump campaign was flailing. trump himself was off script by his standards. rfk jr. dropping out of the race. i'm not sure polls have priced that in yet. it's probably a very very tiny

net positive for trump given that in our early august poll, when asked second choice preference in a two-way race, rfk voters went 46-26 for harris. that's a sign that the rfk voters that are left leaning, dissatisfied with a matchup between biden and trump had migrated over into harris's camp. we're looking at an extremely tight race. >> you talked about low engagement voters yesterday, how are they affecting things? >> yeah, we continue to see a divide between the high engagement and low engagement. kamala harris has retained joe biden's 4 point lead with 100% voters, people who show up in every election, whether it's presidential or midterm, but cut the lead from ten points in may to just three points in the most recent survey among everyone else, and i think that speaks to her being a much better pop culture candidate. vertical video content is now

running fairly even according to most media strategists and trackers that i talked to whereas when it was biden versus trump, trump had a huge, as much as a 4-1 advantage when it came to tiktok and instagram content. that matters. we're seeing harris do much better with a few key demographics that were under performing for democrats. she's back up to a 76-17 lead among black voters. biden was at 72-20, which would have been catastrophic. hispanic voters, she has basically doubled biden's lead from 7 to 13. same thing with 18 to 29-year-old voters. she's not back at the levels the biden ticket enjoyed years ago, but she's getting closer. >> because things are so close, i wonder if it's going to really matter who each candidate is surrounding themselves with. i have an image that donald trump put on his social media truth social i want to put up and this is a bunch of

superheroes or versions of superheroes, it's elon musk, it's restrictive epidemic ramaswamy, tulsi gabbard, rfk jr., j.d. vance, donald trump as superman, this is who he's projecting as his core group of people, do these people help donald trump with voters? >> frankly, when you flash that on screen, katy, i initially thought it was a democratic mock up, but this is part of democrats' core message, i think what we're going to hear from kamala harris in the debate on september 10th, if it does materialize s that trump is already surrounding himself with people who are unreliable and unserious, and kamala harris has tried to co-op some of the republican messaging as not being serious enough or laughing kamala. and there is, i think, a modest

advantage for kamala harris on running mate, even though a lot of voters still don't really know tim walz, he's a net 10 on average positive image, where as vance has consistently been net negative. those things matter, and particularly when voters are trying to evaluate their prospects to govern and who would represent who they can trust and temperament is top kern about donald trump. 57% of voters said he would be too erratic and out of control. he's not doing much to address that. >> if you look closely, and i can understand why you might think it was a democratic image because if you look really closely at j.d. vance, the photo shop over, i guess, that's batman, his head is so big that all you see are two tiny little

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general hr mcmaster served as donald trump's national security adviser for 13 months. he traveled to hamburg where he had an undisclosed one on one with vladimir putin while denying russian medaling in the 2016 election. he told nato allies if they didn't pay their dues, the u.s. wouldn't defend them. he went to china and agreed with president xi that south korea military exercises were a quote, waste of money. he met with the president of the philippines rodrigo duarte, offering praise for his war on drugs. if he was accepted by strong men like duarte, he might convince others he was strong. joining us now author of the new book "at war with ourselves" my

tour of duty in the trump white house, general h.r. mcmaster. that's a great title for the book. we're so happy to have you. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> you said that donald trump had a pension for pitting people against one another instead of building collaborative teams and that would cause friction in his administration and in our relationship. explain that. >> this book, the title, katy, it refers to the degree which we're at war with ourselves in our country, the vitriol nature of partisan political discourse. that was playing out within the white house as well, with certain people who were there to advance their own agendas, you know, others who saw the president as a danger that needed to be contained, and those of us that were doing, what i was really trying to do, trying to help the president, you know, determine his own agenda. i gave him multiple options. president trump, you know, in terms of organizational

leadership ability, he kind of tended to pit people against each other. i mention in the book, it's like the apprentice for him. he enjoyed some of those tensions, and it just kind of added to, you know, the friction and the obstacles to effect the policy making we had to overcome. the story is largely about how, you know, we endeavored to overcome those challenges and make some really significant and long overdue shifts to foreign policy and national security. >> yeah, i also am interested in those challenges because he's running again. you also write about how you saw trump as akin, in your words, to shakespeare's othello, his insecurity made him susceptible to manipulation. there were certainly changes in policy, but talk to me about the susceptibility he had. what exactly was he susceptible to? >> personally relates to a

president's ability to do his or her job. president trump is very disruptive, which everybody knows. a lot of times that was really good because there's a lot in washington that needs to be or that needed to be disruptive. but what happens with him at times is he disrupts himself, and i write in the book, sometimes he could become the antagonist in his own story, and part of the reason for that is because he really does want the affirmation, especially of his political base. and so that makes it easy, you know, for people who want to manipulate decisions and manipulate policy outcomes, you know, to curry favor with the president through flattery and so forth, but then also, you know, to say, hey, this will make you look weak to your base or you could alienate your political base. and so what i tried to do is counter those kind of efforts to manipulate the president, and one of the chapters is guarding his independence of judgment or trying to make sure that he always had, you know, multiple options and that we were

exploring, you know, the long-term costs and consequences of particular policy decisions. >> were there times where you weren't successful at it? >> oh, yeah, of course. and, you know, i think that at times, you know, that was okay with me. i mean, it's funny, when i left the job, and when he called me, you know, to tell me he was firing me and replacing me with john bolton, he used this line, which he would use again when he called me a few months later to tell me he missed me. we left on good terms, which was kind of unusual for most people in the trump white house. what he told me at the time, general, i agree with you 90% of the time, the other 10% of the time, not so much, and what i tried to convey to president trump every time he said that to me, listen, mr. president, i hope you realize, i wasn't trying to get you to agree with me all the time, what i was trying to do is help you make the best decision at that moment. no national security adviser is going to, you know, going to

agree with his or her president -- >> i'm not asking if you lost out to policy influencers. i'm wondering did you lose out to people like steve bannon, people who were there to push their own agendas? >> well, you know, he kind of self-destructed in 2017 because of this extreme effort to push his own agenda. and to do so in a way that was, you know, extraordinarily toxic, you know, within the administration. and then finally the chief of staff, you know, said, hey, you just can't continue, and the president is the one who said he can't continue because it was clear that he was undermining, you know, the president's agenda and not being effective, you know, for the president, which i think is ultimately the criteria. i use another shakespeare metaphor, for him, and those who were working with him as, you know, the weird sisters, you know, in macbeth. they were constantly, you know, preoccupied with undercutting

others. imagine if they used just a little bit of that energy, you know, to do something positive. >> yeah, you know, steve miller, stephen miller is still stayed within the administration the entire time, still very close to donald trump, would be part of another administration. is he somebody that you would lose out to on policy? >> well, you know, what i tried to do is make it not a competition, katy. >> i'm not talking about a competition. i'm talking about your advice on how best to navigate situations? >> yeah. right. no, so here's what we tried to do. whenever somebody had like an idea, right, or something they wanted to get through and have the president approve, i would say, okay, grab that idea if it's in the area of foreign policy and national security and bring it into the national security council decision making process. stephen miller was cooperative with me in that period of time, and what we would do is if these were crossover issues that had, you know, domestic or homeland security implications as well as national security implications,

we would try to have joint meetings of the homeland security council, national security council, for example, we would do the same with economic policy, with the national economic council with gary cohn, that's how i tried to deal with it. some people are more collaborative than others. and in miller ice case, i think we worked together effectively on critical issues and for some critical speeches. so, i mean, from my perspective, of course you may, you know, really profoundly dislike all of his sort of policy initiatives and many people do, and i didn't agree with him, but i think from a team work perspective we were able to work well together. >> you described donald trump not being able to differentiate experience versus loyalists, those who brought him sound analysis and those real or imagined who brought him

hackmeed bromides. any examples of those? >> the president made a courageous decision because it went against his base, you know, for a sustained commitment in helping the afghans fight their fight on a modern day frontier between barbarism, the taliban and other jihadist terrorist organizations but he started to back off on that decision, in large measure because people were in his ear with some of those bromides, you know, the graveyard of empires or the end to endless wars. how many times did we hear, there's no military solution in afghanistan, hey, the taliban came up with one, didn't they? or this idea that the taliban is somehow this kind of romantic world movement that is in a second round of governing will share power and treat women better. so, i mean, all of that was nonsensical to me because i had spent a lot of time in afghanistan and south asia, but

people were in his ear with these kinds of elements of disinformation or those bromides to try to influence his decision making and ultimately he made a regrettable decision to back off on that south asia strategy that he approved and explained not american people in august of 2017, and he resurrected a lot of the flaws aspects of the obama administration's policy toward afghanistan and south asia. >> it's always interest to go hear that the president was relying on the friend who was a real military expert. i want to ask you about the struggle you write about for donald trump's self-worth. we're going to take a really quick commercial break. don't go anywhere. h.r. mcmaster joins us, again, after this commercial break. after this commercial break. sel. much more. take your business to the next stage when you switch to shopify. ♪ i have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell ♪

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back with us, general hr mcmaster, i want to begin where i ended a moment ago. and this is the struggle for self-worth. you wrote, i came to see trump's embrace of duherte and his berating me in the hotel room and in the beast, as connected to his struggle for self-worth. if he was accepted by strongmen like duterte, putin, and xi, he would be strong. his attempt to elicit anxiety or anger in me through did he go gas station may have been a response to his sense of self-worth. what does that look like up close? >> there's a certainly fragility in his ego.

i have been a student of presidential character, and i had written a book, katy, years ago, about how vietnam became an american war, and a study of lyndon johnson's decision making and the decision that is led to an american war in 1964 and 1965. much of the book was about president johnson's interaction, the interaction between his personality and his character, you know, with the complex problems set in vietnam, and with his principal advisers, and in that environment of if it led to america or vietnam, president johnson's key military and civilian advisers determined to give him advice he wanted, one of them noting he had to maintain his influence with the president. i came into the job, and i was determined not to do that, not to give the president the advise he wanted and if he didn't like it, i would get used up.

i was at peace with that. and that part of the story is during a long trip to asia where the president, you know, kind of lost his patience and lost his cool with me, and during that conversation, i said, hey, listen, mr. president, i'm doing the best job i can for you. whenever you want to let me go, replace me with somebody else, i'm completely fine with that. and i think that's a point where he recognized like he wasn't going to have control over me, and i think that angered him a little bit more. everybody has, you know, their own personality flaws, character flaws, and with president trump, you know, i think one of them is that he does seek affirmation, and my shelf life was limited in part because i was not the person to give him everything he wanted in that connection. >> you're writing about how he had a penchant for pitting people against each other. you talk about how his insecurity made him susceptible to foreign leaders and he a

difficult time distinguishing teen sound analysis and bromides, i would mention a friend who was an expert in x, y, and z, you talk about the self-worth, i'm surprised that you're not saying flatly that you don't think he should be president. >> i don't think that's my role, katy. here's my concern about that. it's not my job to tell people how to vote, i don't think. i think what i can do is give you my honest accounting, you know, of my experience while i was national security adviser and let you and other americans make the choice. katy, one of the things i'm concerned about these days is how dangerous the world has become, how whoever is elected president is going to connect with an complex set of problems, and the degree to which we're at each other's throats from a partisan perspective. what i try to do in the book, and maybe, you know, it might be

just impossible these days, but it is to kind of transcend the vitriol of the partisan politics and write about my experience and let everyone, every reader come to his or her own judgment about the presidential candidate. the stories also, you know, it's about the ugly and the bad experiences, the difficult experiences but it's not like a woe is me book. the book is largely about how i helped this disruptive president, we did as part of the national security team to put into place some really significant long overdue and what turns out to be in retrospect i think wise shifts in u.s. foreign policy. many of which only became apparent to americans, the value of them, after the biden administration reversed them, you know, for example, in the policy and strategy and approach toward iran, for example. it's a mixed bag, you know, katy, with, you know, the candidates we have. i don't want to be the person who -- >> i hear you. >> my editor said, hey, this has

got to be a warning. i said, it's not a warning, it's to inform people, and people can come to their own conclusions. >> i hear you and respect that. and given the moment we're living in, i definitely respect people trying to rise above it. at the same time, you talk about what a dangerous world this is and the complex set of issues and policies the next president will have to embrace, the role that he'll or she'll have to navigate, and because it's so dangerous, you know better than anyone, better than i do certainly, why would you not just be clear with the american public on the two candidates? because it seems like in the interviews i have seen with you is that you're equating kamala harris with donald trump, saying either one would be perfectly fine. what you write about in this book is a guy who's not stable, not making the best decisions all the time, who's susceptible to flattery, and then you're going out and saying he'll have people that he'll surround himself with that will be good at steering him. i don't know how you can say that.

who's left? >> i'm not equating them. i think they're quite different candidates. you know, even though vice president harris now sounds a lot like donald trump, with the wall and everything, but i really do think they're quite different candidates, and i think people have to make their own decision. i mean, with president trump, if you think about some of the areas where he has been very consistent, it's been in the area of energy security, you know, for example, or reciprocity in trade or, you know, bird sharing for allies. we could sign up for that, i think, right, but does he take this focus on burden sharing with allies too far or make statements like, hey, i'm not going to defend those who aren't investing 2%. so, you know, president trump is disruptive. that's what i write about in the book. a lot of things that he disrupts needed to be disrupted. of course he's so disruptive, he tends to disrupt himself, and again, become the antagonist to his own story. so that's the person you get, right, that's the candidate that

one of the two major candidates, the other candidate has been of an administration that think has pursued some unwise policies and has done so in a way that may have exacerbated -- >> is she a candidate that can distinguish between fact and fiction? is she a candidate that's susceptible to flattery? is she a candidate that's going to put people around her that are qualified to be in the position? donald trump ended his last administration with a whole lot of people that were not qualified to be there. he fired everybody that was going against him. he wanted to install jeffrey clark to be the acting ag, to be the acting ag, and he only didn't do so because there was a threatened revolt because he didn't accept the results of the 2020 election. i'm just curious why are you -- you seem so sanguine about the possibility of another trump administration, and i'm just wondering how you can be so sanguine. >> i'm not sanguine about

anything these days, believe me. what i'm looking at is when you look at the comparison in politics, and of course we're talking about character and personality, and how important that is, and it is important, and i write about it extensively in the book. but, you know, how did it make sense to cancel the canadian pipeline and green light nord stream 2, you know, how did it make sense to relax sanctions enforcement on iran, you know, and allow about the transfer of about a hundred billion dollars, you know, into iran's coffers to intensify its proxy wars? how did it make sense to undesignate the houthis, and alleviate sanctions on the maduro regime? it didn't make sense to pull our ships out of the black sea and lay out red lines with putin in held helsinki, i could go on, right, so what i'm saying is i'm not sanguine about, you know, either, and so i think in large

measure, what we have, and this is, you know, up to everybody to assess, is you have kind of a, you know, either a choice between, you know, trump's erratic nature, and i describe a lot of that or what i would describe as a degree of fecklessness, you know, on the part of the biden/harris administration, in connection with with some of these critical competitions and dangers we're facing in the world today. i think the biden administration gets credit for a lot of other things. i think the biden administration, for example, has taken a stronger approach toward the relationship with china, which is an element of continuity with the trump administration. i don't want to be, you know, an advocate for, you know, for the democratic or the republican candidate. i want to contribute to each american's sort of assessment by telling you what i knew. i have never served as vice president harris's national security adviser, but base ond my experience with president trump, i just told you from my perspective what that experience was, what my observations were

and i hope that helps americans make the best decision, their own decision. >> hr mcmaster, really good to have you. in terms of the only thing that stood out to me that you just said there, one of the things, i find a lot of conversations with this administration and john kirby, for instance, about that $60 million that we opened up unfroze for iran, they were adamant that it wasn't just a pile of cash going into iran's coffers, that it was goods and that iran had to request them and they would get the goods. you can argue that getting the goods freed up money in itself, but they didn't just hand over a pile of cash to iran. >> we do know, though, cash is fungible, and then also, katy, it was also not just a transfer of those billions. it was just not enforcing sanctions, you know, which allowed them, you know, to kind of redouble their stipends to groups like hezbollah, pij, and hamas. you know, in iraq, it's a humanitarian catastrophe in the

whole region. iran is behind it. look at the syrian civil war. half the population is dead, wounded, or displaced. we're focused on the houthis because of the threats to ships, but they're starving children to death, the houthis. anyway, it is a catastrophe in the middle east. hey, the biden administration does not deserve the blame for that. iranians deserve the blame. terrorist organizations like hamas do. but i think there are poliies that have contributed to a perception of weakness, katy. one of the titles in the book is that weakness is provocative. what i'm afraid of, as we're at war with others, that that will encourage this kind of axis of aggressors that have kind of the world on fire, you know, or are threatening to set other parts of the world on fire in the south china sea, for example. that's why, you know, our national security adviser, jake sullivan, was recently in china. to prevent that -- help prevent

that from happening. >> h.r. mcmaster. >> i wish him well. >> i have to leave it there. i wish you didn't have a contract with cbs, though i know therein over there who is a decent interviewer himself. i'd love to have you on again. "at war with ourselves." it tells you a lot. that's what i'll say. it tells you a lot about the choices in front of us. appreciate it. >> thank you, kty. ahead, a bill that could set the national standard for regulating a.i. is making its way to governor gavin newsom's desk. what pressure he's facing from tech giants and big names in congress who want him to veto it. it help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

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new hampshire. what is this bill you're sending to the governor's desk going to do about something like that in the state of california? >> thank you so much. yes, my 2839, which i worked on along with the california initiative for technology and democracy, it'd basically ban this generative a.i. that is deceptive. we're saying you cannot be doing that 120 days before an election or 60 days after an election. >> the sort of content we're talking about isn't parody. it's not like the images of donald trump and joe biden making biscuits together or sitting in a forest, the picnic shots that are out there. it's talking about stuff that voters can believe happened. maybe an image of donald trump getting arrested or kamala harris getting arrested or pelosi getting arrested. we have those fake images. when a tech company sees this on their sites, when you're talking about them having to identify it, what does it look like? is it a banner?

>> we're actually saying you can't do it at all. we are basically saying -- i mean, california is entering its first ever election during which disinformation powered by this generative a.i. is going to pollute our information ecosystems like never before. millions of voters will not know what images, audio, or video they can trust. so what we're saying is you just can't do it all together. if you're creating something, a deep fake tv ad, a robocall, a mailer, that's depicting images and statements made by elected officials, elections officials, saying and doing things they have not done, we're saying you can't do it at all. >> so you can't have it on your site? you have to take it down? >> it would have to be taken down, yes. absolutely. >> how do you -- how do you get around that with section 230? social media content or -- social media companies have been able to use that as a shield, saying they're not responsible for the content on their sites.

>> so what we're saying is that our bill is targeting ads and robocalls and mailers. if somebody is putting something on the internet that is a deep fake or a parody or a satire, we're saying it has to be labeled as such. but the main thing we're trying to really do is to inform voters that everything you see or hear or read may not be true. if you have any questions about what you're seeing or hearing, please reach out to a trusted messenger. your secretary of state of admissions office. >> gail pepellerin, i'm sorry t cut you off but i ran out of time. it's going to governor gavin newsom's desk and is expected to sign it. >> thank you so much for your coverage. >> appreciate it. sorry for the lack of time. that'll do it for me. "deadline white house" starts right now.