residence has barack obama than donald trump then kamala harris, we are living at the point when everything changes that infect the democratic, liberal tribes the ascended one in the america we thought we knew is actually the one we do know, like this actually is who we are as a country. what is so surprising about the convention in the context of that, it was not just celebrating the sort of a sentence of kamala harris on the ticket. it was sort of reclaiming the country for democrats in saying this is ours and it was no longer we have to apologize for the way we think about the world and our priorities. they are the values of a broad section of the country, if not the outright majority. >> it was such an interesting conversation. find it again with another qr code. or look for the regular podcast. that's it for this week. have a great holiday weekend. strang --

i am katie feng and for alex. the 2020 presidential election was one of the closest races we've ever experienced in this country although george w. bush won the election, it was al gore who won the popular vote that your. when you start to slice and dice the electorate into different voting groups, that race starts to look weightless tight. check this out. in 2000, george w bush dramatically outperformed his opponent among white evangelical voters, winning 68% among that group. in 2024 he increased that support by 10 points. evangelical support for the republican presidential candidate remained relatively steady for the next two elections and then look what happened in 2016. donald trump won the support of 81% of white evangelical voters. trumps ability to supercharge the evangelical vote has largely been attributed to the reason he was able to win the

presidency the first time he ran. without a strong evangelical turnout, it becomes much more difficult for donald trump to chart a repeat path to the presidency, which is why headlines like these today are a five alarm fire for the trump campaign. quote, white evangelicals are upset at recent trump and vance statements on abortion. the last 24 hours have laid bare the challenges of running the first republican campaign for resident in 50 years in an america where abortion is not a guaranteed constitutional right . in addition to voting for president this november, florida will also vote on whether abortion access should be protected in their state up to 24 weeks of pregnancy. right now, abortion is illegal after just six weeks, which is

before most women even suspect that they could be pregnant. last night, donald trump, who himself is a florida voter, told nbc news that he believes the six-week band in his state is quote, too short. he said when he votes in november he will be quote, voting that we need more than six weeks, which seemed to imply that he would be voting to protect abortion access in florida. in that same interview, donald trump announced that if he is elected to a second term, he would find a way to fund ivf treatment for all people struggling with infertility, which is the newest target of the evangelical antiabortion sect of the hard right. and so that one-two punch from donald trump, has apparently found support for abortion and ivf, has set off a firestorm among the evangelical conservatives that trump needs to win the election. last night, the president of an

influential antiabortion group called donald trump personally. according to nbc news, she was calling to ask to clarify whether or not he had suddenly decided to support abortion. she told trump quote, it is imperative that you are clear because there is confusion now that you may be in support of this. the consequences of that confusion are already playing out. the president of antiabortion student groups says volunteers are refusing not to knock on doors for donald trump of his stance on abortion is not quote, corrected. that visceral response from the far right today has sent the trump campaign into a tailspin as they attempted to backtrack on trumps pro-abortion comments. in the last few hours, trump himself so that regardless of whatever (m8 floridaq$x ballot measure that would increase access in his state, but will that be enough to satisfy his evangelical base? the danger here is not that these voters will suddenly

decide to run a vote for kamala harris. the danger is that all of trumps flip-flopping and flailing and talking out of both sides of his mouth has caused his base to believe that he is really not the antiabortion warrior who promised to be. that instead of turning out to vote for him on november 5th, they're just going to stay home. joining us now is mckay, support writer at the atlantic. he takes so much pride in the fact that he successfully got roe v. wade overturned but yet when push comes to shove in the span of 24 hours he cannot take a consistent position on abortion. >> i think that is really striking and it's important to understand the context here. in 2016, conservative evangelicals conservatively made what a lot of them realized was a faustian bargain by getting behind trump.

many of them if they are being honest with themselves, knew that donald trump was not an especially righteous or godly man. they knew he was even probably not a really pro-life person, right? like you had a long track record of talking about abortion and moderate or even liberal terms, but they made this calculation in 2016 that he would owe them if they showed up, right, if they delivered him the presidency, he would deliver for them by appointing conservative justices to the court would overturn roe v wade. he basically did deliver on his promise in 2016. the conservative evangelicals that i have talked to, up until about a year or two ago, would say we made this bed and it paid off massively, right? but now, they see donald trump waffling on this issue. he's talking about subsidizing ivf for all women in america. he's talking about leaving abortion to the states and in this next run of the battle

over abortion, the pro-life movement is seeing that donald trump is not nearly as committed as they thought he was and not only that, that they can't control him in the way they thought they could and that, i think, is what is delivering a lot of this consternation on the pro-life right. like did these people think they had him under their thumb now they're not so sure, and i think that is where the division is coming from and that is why you are hearing so much angst from a lot of these pro-life voices. >> it's got to be such an insult to their intelligence, though, this evangelical base of voters that trump suggests, if not outright says that he can play them. he can promise one thing, do another. he is so -- i don't even think inconsistent is the right adjective for them because when he promises you don't get ivf and you get ivf but personhood

is a very real thing for the evangelical base and they've made it clear that ivf challenges their belief because yes though they are pro-life, they have a concern about what is happening to the embryos that are created during this process so do you think that there is enough here, enough meat on the bone for the evangelical base to say you know what? i am an intelligent voter and i'm not going to be played by you, donald trump? >> i think it comes down to who has the power, who has the upper hand in this kind of arranged marriage between social conservative movement and donald trump. a lot of social conservatives believed up until recently that they were the ones pulling the strings and i think they still have a case to make here. the fact that donald trump has slipped on the florida abortion law suggests they still do have

some power in their flexing that muscle there but at the end of the day, if these voters don't believe that donald trump is going to deliver for them anymore, and they see him out there courting moderate swing voters who are more pro-choice, pro-ivf, i could see a situation where at least some of them decide to stay home. i heard it even in my reporting over the summer with the evangelical right, you know, a lot of them have talked themselves into this idea over the past eight years that donald trump is not only kind of a blunt instrument in god's hand, but that he truly is god's champion and you can hear it in the prayers that are delivered at his rallies. you hear it in some of the rhetoric that his evangelical supporters use in talking about

him. i will say that rhetoric will evaporate very quickly if these people believe that donald trump is going to advance any kind of pro-choice policies and if they start to believe that he is not actually on their side and he's not going to do their bidding, those voters will stay home. they're not going to vote for democrats, but they're not going to vote for him, either. >> and probably can misquote the scripture here, mckay, but what is it, beware of false idols? that is apropos here. thanks for being here and getting us started in this hour. i want to bring into the conversation now congresswoman chantel brown, democrat from jd vance six home state of ohio. ohio passed its own ballot initiative last year. we got to talk about jd vance. he seems relatively consistent in terms of his positions on abortion, definitely consistent on his positions of the value of a woman, but does vance actually add anything to the mix when it comes to making sure trump can maintain that evangelical base?

>> i'm not clear that jd vance adds anything to anything but i should start off by thanking you for having me back on the program. as a resident of ohio and having lived under jd vance's short term as a senator i can assure the american people that ohioans are experiencing buyers remorse. this is a person who has been clear about his stance as it relates to abortion, not supporting even incest or exceptions this is the position jd vance has taken, supporting that women stay in violent relationships so you talk about his position on value i would say it is in value. he does not value women. there is an anti-women sentiment that is very clear in this campaign and jd vance is the epitome of it all.

>> you know, in a post-dobbs world, the backlash has been tangible, profound and swift. we saw that in 2022 in the midterms. we are going to see it in november. the harris-walz campaign is launching a tour for reproductive rights starting in florida which does have an initiative on the ballot in november. ohio really was a test case, was it not? you have used that phrase to talk about ohio. is this vote going to hinge on reproductive freedom in addition, of course, to all the other issues in kitchen table issues but reproductive freedom is so intimately linked now not only to gwen and tim walz in their journey to have children but also jd vance's valueless opinion of women. we've seen that and i feel like it is all incredibly interrelated. >> absolutely. when we talk about ohio this is a state where we had a 10-year- old victim who had to flee the state to get the care needed.

abortion is healthcare and i want people to be clear about that so even in the evangelical community this is something i would caution them, to warn them, that this is forced birth. we should not have a 10-year- old that would be forced to have a child. that's a baby having a baby. that is absolutely ridiculous. we're also the state where we had a young woman, britney, who had a natural miscarriage in her bathroom and because the fetus got clogged in the toilet, she was going to be charged with abuse of the fetus, so criminalizing abortion and women's health is something that is on the radar for jd vance and donald trump agenda. this is what we are dealing with here and i would caution people. what i am encouraged by is when people get the information, they showed up. even in a state that is considered red, like ohio, and

there are broad coalitions of folks. it's not just a democratic issue. there are republicans, independents, black, white, all of the people who understand abortion care is also an economic issue. forcing people to have births, or making them unable to decide when they are ready to start a family is not freedom and this is exactly what the trump jd vance ticket is about. they are about taking away freedoms, taking away women's rights to make their own health care decisions, inserting the government and doctors offices. this is a decision that should be left up to individuals, families and the doctor and their god. government has no place in it so i would just remind folks that ohio was the test case and we were successful in making sure we were able to enshrine voting rights into our constitution, but we are not safe because jd vance and donald trump on the ticket and despite trumps flip- flopping, we know he is duplicitous, we can't trust a word that he says. >> you know, i had my daughter through ivf. i'm very transparent about it,

very open about it. when and tim walz again talking about it. the fact that we now have a vice presidential nominee on a major party like tim walz who went through this process, it creates a level of humanization that i think will resonate with several photos. i like to say, too, republicans get abortions. republicans use contraception and republicans do stuff like ivf. do you think in your state they look at someone like jd vance in the juxtaposition of him versus somebody like tim walz who emotionally embraces the fact that there is this painful journey that a lot of people want to go through that is at odds with what the republican party wants? do you think the voters are sitting there and saying that humanity is what we needed what we want in the white house? >> i absolutely think they do. i think it is evident in the amount of support that this campaign has been able to galvanize in such a short time since the addition of governor

walz. we've seen that donations continue to pour in. the violence numbers continue to grow. these are people that care about other people when you consider jd vance and particularly donald trump. he is not fighting for the people. he is actually making sure to do everything he can to keep himself from going to jail. it is not been a large part of the conversation, but this man is a convicted felon on 34 counts so he's not concerned about women's rights, your rights, my rights are tim walz 's ability to be able to create a family or make a family of his own under his own terms. this is a man who is strictly about himself and he will say and do anything he can to protect himself and prevent himself from going to jail. >> congresswoman shontel brown, i appreciate you being here. love the energy and the honesty.

thank you so much. >> thank you. still more to come tonight including donald trump aligning himself with culture warriors, mom's for liberty, that came out of nowhere a few years ago, and gained tremendous political power. there are signs that their brand has lost a little steam, maybe a lot. more on that just ahead. t ahea. aaaah! with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary. spray flonase sensimist daily, for non-drowsy, long-lasting relief... in a scent-free, fine mist. psst psst! flonase. all good.

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i am i am proud to have laid out by charge a plan to liberate our children from the marxist lunatics and perverts that have infested our educational system. they are perverts. >> that was donald trump's message last year at the some of the far right political group, mom's for liberty. even if you don't know mom's for liberty by name they are

you are probably familiar with their work. the group got to start protesting maxon vaccine requirements in the schools and has since transitioned their mission to banning books in classrooms, fighting diversity, equity and inclusion programs and trying to get local school board members they don't see is conservative enough voted out of office. the groups tactics and ideology are so aggressive that last year the southern poverty law center labeled mom's for liberty and extremist organization. tonight trump is back at the moms for liberty so called joyful warriors annual summit in d.c. this year and they are doing what they are calling a special fireside chat with donald trump but given how extreme moms for liberty is, it is an open question whether trump continuing to tie himself to the group as a political asset or liability. this week, the tampa bay times reported that of the candidates moms for liberty back in florida's recent school board

elections only three one. another six lost and five are headed to runoffs in november. when you look at where these moms for liberty-backed candidates lost, the picture is starker. in sarasota county where republicans hold a 2-1 majority over democrats, two moms for liberty-backed hopefuls lost and that reflects a national trend. last year all across the country, fewer than one third of the school board candidates endorsed by moms for liberty won their elections. birds of a feather my flock together. so will trumps continued connections to moms for liberty can be a political albatross? joining me now is jennifer jenkins who is served on the school board of brevard county since 2020 when she defeated an incumbent that went on to cofound moms for liberty. she now chairs educated we stand, an organization that

aims to limit the influence of extremists on public education. thanks for taking the time to join us tonight. i have a nine-year-old who is a fourth grader in a public school in florida so i have a very invested interest in what happens in our school system. i actually follow these races carefully and closely, and the number of losses being racked up by moms for liberty-backed candidates for school board races especially, is pretty remarkable. >> it is remarkable. you know, unfortunately, we have seen this far right extremism in all 50 states, so that's why i felt compelled to organize the opposition with my organization called educated we stand in our goal is to elect candidates for school board and show how we can fight back in states like florida that are trending extreme because of we can win here in florida, we can win in all 50 states and that is exactly what we did in our recent election.

88% of our endorsed candidates were successful across florida against opponents endorsed by moms for liberty and ron desantis. we successfully live to see and sarasota county, solidifying that when we let the voters know who the candidates are that support extremism they will lose regardless of the political makeup of that area. >> for those viewers tuning in that maybe don't understand, give a couple of examples of what they have done, what their mission is to do, and why it is the case that you think the backlash now has been so extreme in response to what they're trying to do in our public schools. >> i have unfortunately lived it personally. i am a mom, an educator married to a middle school history teacher.

we became ground zero in 2020 for the trend of an ideological takeover of public education by far right extremists like moms for liberty. they started showing up to school board meetings. they caused chaos and havoc. it started with mass then quickly grew into bigotry against lgbtq students and staff. fast forward to criticizing african-american history and curriculum i was facing harassment and intimidation campaigns from extremists in our community that they are tested in front of my home, vandalized my property, following me and my family around. it has gotten incredibly insane when it comes to what is happening in our school boards and unfortunately they have taken over what is going on in our legislature in tallahassee and it has allowed this extremist ideology to seep into the laws and the department of education. >> let's be clear, it is not just donald trump. ron desantis is a political bedfellow with moms for liberty.

this is what happened in the latest races. desantis endorsed 23 candidates and 11 lost, and six are headed to runoffs in november so it's not just the donald trump association and that guilt by association that seems to be doing damage. the ron desantis failed presidential candidate, failed governor of florida also his endorsement seems to be the kiss of death if you're running for public office here in florida. why is it then that you think there has been this galvanized response that the culture wars that have been waged here talk about ground zero in the state of florida, why that is not happening anymore and why this could be -- florida could be the state that shows that culture wars don't work no matter where you are in the united states?

>> i think it's important to recognize that as we are hearing about project 2025 here in florida it feels like we've chosen to listen to the audiobook version on doubletime because we are living it. florida republicans are doing everything in the power to continuously undermine voters to reject their extremism. the florida department of education is starting to look like a participation trophy case of people he appoints. republicans like desantis and trump share a complete disregard for a government that reflects the will of its constituents and they will do anything to impose their agenda and that is what they are telling us with project 2025. they want to dismantle the department of education. they want to cut title i funding and end early childhood. comes like -- childhood programs like head start. when they tell us who they are we have to believe them. we have to organize and vote them out of office. >> quickly before i have to let you go, i want people to understand, you are not a professional politician. you are not somebody who said

you know what, i'm going to be running for office. you ran for school board because you got fed up with what was going on and how it was impacting you, your family, your child's education. >> absolutely, you know. again i said i'm a mom, i'm an educator. i went and fought with my fellow educators in a sea of red t-shirts and fighting for fair wage increases. i was making $38,000 with a masters degree in the state of florida and ever since ron desantis took office we've got to 50th in the nation for average teacher pay. i ran because i care about public education, my colleagues, my students in my future of my daughter who is in third grade. >> jennifer jenkins, mentor -- member of brevard county school board in florida, thank you for taking the time tonight. we appreciate it. on a come back donald trump summer break from court is about to end.

as we as we head into labor day weekend and the start of september, donald trump is heading not only to the heart of the election season. he's going to have a jampacked legal calendar, as well. next week in the federal election interference case in d.c., special counsel's office and trump's lawyers are scheduled to appear before judge tanya chutkin for the first time as the supreme court upended the case with the ruling on presidential immunity last june and in a surprise this week, special counsel jack smith filed a superseding indictment rewritten to address the supreme court's ruling but still charging trump with the same four phony crimes. trump himself does not have to attend next thursday's hearing but the case will likely be on his mind when just five days later he faces off against vice president kamala harris in the first presidential debate. joining me now for more, former federal prosecutor and fbi general counsel andrew weissmann two hosts msnbc's

podcast, prosecuting donald trump. andrew, thanks for being here. you and i love to noodle all things legal all the time so we will just sort of opened the curtain here and let people into how you and i talk about this. we are supposed to get a joint status report in the d.c. federal election interference case. your thoughts about what you think that report is going to look like? >> sure. the reason we are on tender hooks is this is the filing that jack smith said he needed more time, he needed three more weeks to submit and of course, donald trump agreed to that because it meant delay and so today we are expecting this joint filing. what that means is that the parties will submit one set of papers. however, they can point out that they disagree on certain facts and scheduling issues, so this is really the chance for both sides to tell judge check and how they want to proceed and when they want to proceed. first on the how. that is an issue of whether it will be just a legal briefing or whether there will be a hearing, what people refer to

as a sort of mini trial, whether there will be an actual hearing. the judge actually hears from witnesses to talk about the allegations in the indictment so she can determine whether they are subject to immunity or not, whether there are actions taken by the former president as president or whether they were taken by him as a candidate, so that is sort of step one, how they sort of suggest they proceed with respect to a hearing or not. if it were me i would say that certain things require a hearing on the supreme court seemed to agree on the second issue is when. donald trump, we can be sure will say that should not be sometime between never in the year 3000, you know. he's going to basically say i never want to have this happen and he's obviously hoping if he

wins the presidency, the whole case will go away because he will just order his department of justice to dismiss it. the big question is whether jack smith will say that hearing should be scheduled promptly, meaning before the general election and again, if it were me, i would say we should just follow normal roles and so the idea of this being delayed even further, as you noted at the outset, this case has been on hold since december because the supreme court has sat on it and really put its thumb on the scale and denying the public's right to a speedy trial of these issues, for it to be decided one way or the other and so that is a thing. i don't know what jack smith will say but those are the two things i'm really looking for, sort of what is the procedure they're going to propose, and when will it occur. >> we have incredibly dialed in viewers here at msnbc and they know that the deadline is at

midnight, so literally things could get filed at 11:59 and still technically be in compliance. we've seen this happen as lawyers but since we have been lawyers and litigators and trial lawyers, the reality is judge chutkin does not have to agree with what the parties say in this case. to your point, this case was set for trial before it went up on appeal all the way to the supreme court and i know there is this immunity rolling it's kind of changed the board a little bit here, but chutkin could say this is great, guys. file the motion to dismiss in the next two weeks. were going to have oral arguments in the hearing that happens before november so i want to make sure we manage people's expectations but the reality is judge chutkin could

say this case was set for trial. you guys were ready to go. the facts have not changed. in fact, they have been. down because now you have a skinnier superseding indictment. >> absolutely. also remember this case was initially set for trial march 4th. that was the trial date judge chutkin said. we would've had a verdict one way or the other if the supreme court had not interfered, in my view, quite improperly, in terms of its ruling. you are right that judge chutkin obviously does not have to do what either side wants, and she can ask pointed questions. i will say in a high-profile matter, you know, having done high-profile cases, it is not a great look if the department of justice takes a position that judge chutkin then has to take a sort of more aggressive position saying why are you agreeing to such a delay, for instance, you know, and she has to be the person who is pushing it forward, so you know, that is something i was conscious of, of making sure we were not just saying to the judge, hey,

you take the heat on this. we are going to sit back and let you decide, so you know, i do think you are absolutely right that judge chutkin can disagree with one or both parties. in a high-profile matter, it can be a little difficult to take on both parties if both parties agree that there should be a lengthier schedule here. >> andrew, what are the chances that there is a stipulation between jack smith a special counsel in donald trump's legal team as to certain of the comments within the superseding indictment been private conduct based upon what the immunity rolling his or do you anticipate donald trump fighting tooth and nail any type of designation by jack smith that conduct in the indictment's private conduct? >> i anticipate they're going to fight everything. i think they are going to say that there is an argument that at least in part, everything in the indictment as presidential, and they will take a position

that even if it is 1% or 2% residential and 98% as a candidate, they will say that is sufficient on the label take the maximalist view and they are very much going to be playing for the supreme court. you know, they know they can have another bite of the apple and take it to the supreme court again is this proceed so there is no question there will not be a trial anytime soon but again i think you know, the thing i'm keeping my eyes on is whether there will be a hearing for we could get additional evidence that we have not heard before, you know, the biggest one would be mike pence, the former vice president who is white notable in not supporting donald trump i think the big

linchpin is going to be not mike pence, but kenneth c.h.a.z. bo. andrew weissmann, thanks for being here. still to come tonight's, harris' campaign reaches out to latino voters, is she gaining any ground? we will get some in-depth reporting on that coming up next. next.

is the is the democratic primary got underway the biden campaign quietly acknowledged the painful truth. the president was struggling with a group of voters he needed to win. in poll after poll, latinos were showing signs of leaning toward donald trump. to figure out what was going wrong, democrats help focus groups in las vegas with latino voters. the feedback from those sessions in april foreshadowed what was to come. latino voters worried that biden was too old. they preferred kamala harris. as one would ask, can i just vote for her instead of biden? well, now they can. kamala harris is leading donald trump by nearly 20 points in

key battleground states. with harris at the top of the ticket, democrats have improved their standing among young hispanics by 17.. latino voter research firm a case calls it a reset writing, democrats are back in business. joining man-o-wars national political reporter and editor at politico in the journalist behind this important report on the effort by democrats to understand latino voters, particularly by vice president kamala harris. it's a pleasure to have you join us tonight. clearly i'm in florida so this is a really important topic for me so i'm thrilled to see the numbers. was it really is much of a reason is just getting kamala

harris to be at the top of the ticket? >> first of all, thank you for having me. in many ways it was. latino voters were not enjoying the choices that were there with president biden and former president trump, like many other voters and it was not that these photos were going to go to donald trump en masse, they just were considering not voting, staying home, just voters saying that he was too old. in nevada and arizona in 2020, breaking institute found that young latinos were the difference and help joe biden get over the top in arizona and nevada so you know, what happened with the change was you had suddenly young latino voters and latinas, hispanic women in general who were excited, energized, enthusiastic. there voter registration targets found latinas 150% more than they were in 2020 so there is real excitement and potential for vice president harris to reach the levels joe biden had in 2020 and possibly surpass them. >> adrian, the harris campaign has released a new ad that emphasizes two potential voters, that she, not donald trump, will be able to deal with the border.

do those issues like the border and immigration, to those resonate with latino voters? >> i think people have always talked about immigration as a passion point. they don't want to hear offensive things being said. we've seen in many ways how donald trump is from that on his head. he's gone often talked about undocumented immigrants and very harsh ways. one of the things i found interesting, i talked to one of the cofounders of the lincoln project to talked about how he was really impressed that kamala harris had sort of turned around that democratic orthodoxy on the border and came out with an ad that first talked about securing the border before it got two things about pat's to citizenship and things a lot of democrats and folks on the left want to hear so immigration is an issue, but so is the economy and inflation.

the economy is always going to be number one, particularly for latino voters but again there is this energy and excitement. the campaign is ready to hit the ground running after labor day with a lot of things they're going to do to reach some of those undecided latino voters. >> quickly before i have to let you go interestingly, the harris campaign has released a what's up channel to target latino voters understanding that sometimes you have to meet the voters where they are and what's app is an app used commonly by latinas to be able to communicate. >> you have to reach voters where they are in for latino, they are disproportionately younger. they are 21% of the youth vote in the country but those numbers in arizona and nevada are 36%, 39% so to reach voters where they are it's not your traditional phone banking and mail. you have to use a lot of the digital platforms to reach the voter where they are and speak to them in their language. >> thank you so much for joining me this evening. it's good to see you. we will be right back. l be rig.

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you would not characterize you would not characterize florida as a swing state. i mean, after all, former president trump carried florida in the last two presidential elections. the state's republican governor, ron desantis, won re- election by nearly 20 points. poll trackers say the state is either solidly republican or at the very least it leans that way heading into this year's election. in short, it's not really a battleground and yet, both campaigns are investing in florida, particularly in one part of the state.

next week, the harris campaign plans to launch a bus tour in palm beach county centered around the issue of reproductive freedom. they are sending top surrogates to that part of the state. that outreach comes days after the harris campaign rolled out a new attack ad tied to project 2025. this ad is aimed at crucial battleground states and also a single media market in florida. that is palm beach. if you are curious about what this is all about, the campaign will probably admit that this is psychological warfare aimed at former president trump. when the campaign announced it was purchasing at space in the palm beach media market kamala harris aides were blunt. in their press release they hyperlinked to the website for mar-a-lago to say this is an ad directed mainly at the guy who lives here. what is maybe more interesting though is the fact that tom's campaign is also throwing up ads in the exact same area and

honestly it makes no sense for them to purchase florida at the time. after all, trumps own folks have boasted that florida is deep red trump country, so why waste the money on ads? turns out the former president is also their target audience, as well. the trump confidant tells the bowl work quote, president trump is a little on edge these days and it makes sense for staff to have a little something on her so he's not wondering why he's not seeing his stuff on tv. it is what it is. indeed. that is our show for tonight. i will be back here tomorrow, saturday at noon for the katie fang show her i welcome influencer and democratic activist olivia giuliana to talk about how she is turning personal attacks against her into mitigating jen the -- gen z to get out and vote. have a great labor day weekend and good night. it never goes away. there's not a day that goes by th