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please accept our condolences, thank you, when did the tragedy happen? the tragedy occurred on november 17, 2023, how did you find out that your son and daughter would not return home? i called my son on november 18, my son didn’t answer the phone, then, well, i think they called my mother-in-law. as if everything was fine with them, and he was just playing there with other children, but then my mother-in-law called me and said what the children were saying where, so i asked her, i say, i mean, he took the children yesterday , are you talking about this course, well, we talked to her, she said that he took them, but he didn’t show up at his mother-in-law’s house, she started calling. everyone, apparently there, i told
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her there that come to my address, where, where we had a common house, she literally called, after 15 minutes, probably 20, maybe it passed, i don’t know how many minutes there, exactly minutes passed, she called me, said that sveta’s children were dead, he stabbed them, oh, lord, how come your heart didn’t stop in that moment, i remember it as if in a fog, for me it was so much. so much, it was just a fog for me, i still don’t realize that they are not there, i don’t realize, svetana, we really sympathize with you, we really sympathize with you, did you go there right away? yes, i immediately went there, i called a taxi, went there, when you arrived, what did you see? the police were there,
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a dog handler was working, the house was completely cordoned off, they didn’t allow me to get inside, and they immediately put me in the car, that is, because everything there was absolutely cordoned off, the police told me, purely in the moment , what and how he did, when and how much, there was nothing like that, they just told me what and how he did, that is, they told you that it was the father who stabbed him and fled the place at about one o'clock at two in the morning i learned that he had been detained, and what would you have done if you had seen him at the scene of the tragedy, you would have torn him to pieces on the spot, killed him, and you managed to approach your daughter and son, to i only managed to approach my daughter and son on tuesday, when they brought me something from the morgue?
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did they have the same? for a live wound to the heart area in both. svetlana, please accept my condolences. this is just a terrible, scary story, i can’t imagine how much pain you have inside, how your heart ached, and how you, how will you survive this? it’s hard for me to listen to this, i, honestly, i don’t have children, but i, it’s very hard for me, i can’t imagine what svetlana is experiencing now. it’s impossible to imagine, i don’t understand how how to live, i don’t understand, i deeply sympathize with you, i i can’t even imagine how you it hurts, inna, the loss of children , this is the worst thing a woman can go through, this is one of the most terrible experiences, traumas, because it is inherent in nature that parents leave earlier than children, but when it
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happens the other way around, it is really very difficult to survive realizing that there are no more children is one of the deepest traumas. svetlana, and you on the same day. did you testify to the investigator? yes, when they put me in a police car, first they took my testimony, uh, then they took me to the hospital, they beat me up there medications to calm me down, somehow, and then i gave evidence to the investigative committee, i told what i know, what... well, how it was, that i sent the children at 9 pm, my husband called , to the child, at that moment i would have been in the store, well , my son called me and said, mom, my dad, it’s like dad will pick us up, he was so happy,
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i said, okay, i say, now i ’ll come home, we’ll talk , as a result, i came home, we talked to him, i said: are you sure you want to go to dad? yes, mom, i really do i miss you, i want to go to my dad , my dad said he bought me a gift, i had some feelings inside, you couldn’t imagine how everything would turn out, in the end of such a tragedy, i could never imagine this, he loved them very much like him, he admitted his guilt, well, as far as i know, he admitted his guilt. he has nowhere to go. the only thing i know about the details of the tragedy is that he fed them before this cake and killed them while they were sleeping. your husband showed and described in detail what happened on that fateful day. in
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accompanied by the police, the accused enters the house and shows the very room where on november 18 he stabbed his son and daughter to death while they were sleeping. yes to the head. here towards the window , she was lying on what part of her body, she was lying on a solid beech tree, in the middle of the bed or on the edge, in the middle, tell me how you were positioned on the bed, sitting, you are now on your knees, well, it was more convenient that she was on was on his side, well , he sat down, well, he knelt down, the man indifferently tells how he chose a place on the children’s bodies. where to stick the knife, also shukats, where closer to his heart, he took aim and said, anna , you watched these footage with tears, with horror, he tells you so cold-bloodedly, exactly, very
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cold-bloodedly, as if he were telling how he made tea for himself in the morning, you are terrible, this is scary. no , just words, it’s just some kind of animal act, cold-blooded , feeding the children, putting them to bed before that, killing in their sleep, i don’t know, of course, what kind of person he was, but therefore it’s clear that some kind of animal, i i also can’t understand what was in this person’s head, i can’t call, kill their children, even animals don’t do that, i... here’s a father, a grandfather, i can’t do everything, i don’t, i don’t even understand what could happen, even if there’s something wrong with his head , well, it’s still so out of order , i can’t explain it, i simply have no words, there’s clearly no effect here, but the behavior, excuse me, firstly,
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my greatest condolences, from the bottom of my heart, secondly, it’s truly amazing , what kind of information is given out by this... person in my large investigative practice, i have a lot of things i saw it, but such composure clearly amazes me, it’s really something beyond the pale. alexey, do you get the impression that the murder was planned? of course, such a feeling is created, and when i looked at these frames, i got the impression that a man was telling how he pricked a piglet, how he felt the pulse. set the knife and with one sharp blow, without causing additional suffering, took his life. and now i have a complete association, like stakes from pigs , with these shots, when my father tells how he killed his children.
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my ears are trembling now, and here is not only a huge field for psychiatric work, but a huge field for investigative work, to establish the reasons, the motives that led to this terrible tragedy, what happened in their family where he lived , where he was raised by this man, who like this... callously, with two precise blows, can take the life of the most precious thing he has. maria, well, he dealt with the small children who were sleeping, they didn’t could naturally offer no resistance, what does this mean? it’s scary, in general it’s scary, you know, they say that a person’s fantasy is richer than life experience, but scarier than the situation, i didn’t have any practice at all, i basically couldn’t even imagine myself, my hands are even wet, i i can’t, i’m in shock, although it seemed to me that it was already difficult to surprise me with anything,
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and the very fact that he waited until they fell asleep and did it in their unconscious state, probably realizing that he couldn’t look them in the eye will be able at this moment, i don’t know, i don’t know, i don’t even have words, it seems to me that, of course, this suggests that he planned it in advance, this is not an effect, the fact that he remembered everything in detail, this suggests that this is definitely not effect, i agree with my colleagues, i really acted consciously, everything points in the direction of this, i would also like to express and want to express my deepest condolences to you, svetlana, you are a strong woman, unfortunately i know first-hand what it’s like to lose a child and you need be strong, be patient and you will need the help of my colleagues, my own, i will be glad if you feel so ready to seek this help, and i will make every effort personally to support you, and we should all support svetlana, because now she is very... a simple, complex period of experiencing this grief of loss, this is truly unthinkable for
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many sitting in the studio and television viewers, but is it necessary to talk about repentance? it ’s absolutely true, caring for one’s offspring is an evolutionary mechanism for the survival of our species, and when this program fails, and there was clearly a program failure, we are talking about the fact that there really was some reason, a consequence of a strong mental emotional shock, maybe it was revenge, look how... everything is arranged, that is, there really is a murderer, i will call him that , there is a killer somewhere , we still see him, no matter how cynical it sounds now, showing some concern for his children, that is, he fed them cake, he kills them in their sleep, that is, it is obvious that he is trying to save them from unnecessary suffering, but by killing these children, to whom does he causes pain in this case, if he does not hurt the children, he obviously hurts the mother, i believe that this was some kind of sophisticated revenge, svetlana, you said that your
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mother-in-law told you about this terrible tragedy, mother-in-law, and then how her son was detained, how she behaves , what she says, what she does, on the eighteenth i found out all this, on the nineteenth she came to me, apologized to me, that i’m sorry that i gave birth to such a son, and that he did something, well... that is, i asked for forgiveness for him, when she came to me to apologize, she told me that she went into the house, saw him and my two children lying on the bed, he was, he had a rope around his neck, but she, when she started dialing an ambulance the police, they, well, he , that is, jumped off, ran away, while she was in a state of shock, she did not understand when he ran away, she
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thought that he was also dead, but that is, he jumped off and ran away, that’s all, that is she didn’t see him anymore, she saw him only when he was detained for interrogation, but how your mother-in-law is going through this tragedy, you are supporting each other now, probably supporting, supporting, yourself , but not to say that it’s just so good, she also blames me, that i destroyed this family, that i, that’s all , let's listen to one of your conversations, even after this i still love him, i know, and i want a cruel punishment for him, and i want you to be responsible for this too, bring him to this world, it's you , i want you to suffer as much as he did, i lost three, three. it’s not at all easier for me than for you, you’re flying with us now, and i, everyone blames me, not
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myself, it’s not enough of all this, what you did in our child, you destroyed everything, i just wanted to get a divorce calmly, i don’t see that you calmly wanted this, why did you think under her then, when you were running after her, one is suffering, why, because they loved each other, build themselves, well, i, i saw you cry, i saw him now, here he’s sitting there like this especially dangerous guy, i can’t even take the stream away. hold the hand of those whom this? did the children bother him? didn't answer this question? so that i don't get them? yes , she loves her son, no matter what he is, but it is incomprehensible to the mind what she says when she justifies him so that his wife does not get the children, but in
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principle it does not fit into her head that such actions can be justified, well, for me... she blames the wine, in fact, if we look deeply, then the mother is to blame, she raised this duck, she raised him, she led his little one by the hand, where is this program failure, when did it happen, when did she his raised him when she didn’t like him, and now it turns out that she raised him up to a certain age, then gave him to his wife, and now her wife turns out to be to blame for the fact that this abomination did what she did, she ’s trying... i agree with alexei, that she is throwing off responsibility, but she says, i won’t be able to hug my son, what should i do about it now, and what should i do, she will never
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be able to hug them again, i can’t wrap my head around this at all, how is it possible, which i just lost two children, what's that? to say, it was just a phrase that she said that killed me, that is, i want it to suffer too, he killed - children, she says, it’s your fault, you brought it on, are you crazy , this is generally, well, that is where has this ever been heard of, you, this is not enough of this suffering, you need to finish off something else, tighten it up, this is so much - she loved him so much, this son, that is, she doted on him so much, that he was cute , he... is still cute, i can’t hug him, he’s so cute, boy, well, he killed, well, that’s what, it’s not, it’s not that he’s to blame, but he’s not to blame, it’s your fault, even if you still suffer, but it’s just some kind of psychosis, what about mom, what about this monster, it can’t to be justified in finding neither from a moral, nor from a psychological , nor, of course, from a legal point of view, there is no justification for this act, you are not
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guilty of anything, svetlana, you could not have calculated this act of his, this brutal act, if you had been able. .. you wouldn’t give it up, you wouldn’t let the children go, there’s no darkness in that, you are not to blame for anything, you chose a better life for yourself, you were unhappy with this man, and you should not blame yourself for this, and no one has the moral right, i believe, to blame you for this, you are not guilty of anything are to blame , svetlana, but you and your husband were really in the process of divorce, yes, i was in the process of divorce with him since october, and for what reason, what happened, we fought very often, then it started, he had long microloans, he... .to take it unknown where, unknown for what, then he began to be jealous of me to his friends, well, that is, to my friends, he was asked to do something around the house, he wanted to do absolutely nothing, he had to be kicked to do something there, you were the initiator of the divorce, the initiator of the divorce was i, because i’m tired of this, you’ve already filed an official
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application for divorce, yes, yes, and your husband, who didn’t want to divorce, he didn’t want, and your...’ mother-in-law, do you think that’s why she’s blaming you in this phone conversation? yes, that’s why she blames why, according to svetlana’s mother, her son-in-law killed his own children? those motives that he had , apparently in advance and before that, how could he do such a thing, he also loved them, killing children in a dream is most likely not a concern so that the children do not feel pain, but a manifestation of just cowardice, we find out, after a short commercial break, santa claus, give me a field, vadik,
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with their husband, the day before he took the children to his place for the weekend, on the seventeenth, so he arrived, it turns out that the children i was naturally happy, they left, the children were happy, they were unhappy that they didn’t see dad for a long time, i saw them only on tuesday, when they brought them back from the morgue, on sunday, the same day. svetlana's mother is afraid that her son-in-law will kill her daughter as soon as he is released. we have our guest is oksana ramzina. oksana, a terrible tragedy happened in your family. our condolences. you don’t leave your daughter’s side for a minute now? no, i’m not leaving, because
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that’s what i think. that if i lost my grandchildren, that means i cannot lose her at any time, how did you find out about what happened? svetlana called me on the phone and said that my children were killed by my son-in-law, stabbed to death with a knife, well, naturally , my phone fell out, she came home in the morning, saw svetlana in a deplorable state, she was lying there and simply said, mom, it's a dream, mom, it's not true, i don't believe it. children were everything to her, she loved them very much , she couldn’t live without them at all, the meaning of life was children for her, you probably couldn’t even imagine that a son-in-law could do something like this to his own children, how can you even imagine that? , if his own father, how could he do such a thing, he, he also loved them, what do you think, what could have pushed him to commit such a terrible
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crime? most likely, to punish her for this, that is, do you think that he really wanted to take revenge on svetlana for the divorce? yes, rather just like that. we have the opportunity to look at the official version of the investigative committee. on november 18, police responded to a call to a private house in the village of kabalut in udmurtia and found the bodies of two minor children there. their own father is accused of murder. the accused on the morning of november 18 this year. experiencing personal hostility towards his wife in connection with the divorce proceedings, he stabbed his sleeping seven-year-old son and three-year-old daughter in the heart area, as a result of which they died. after the crime, the man tried to escape from the crime scene, found and detained him in the forest. based on the evidence collected by the investigation, the twenty-nine-year-old father of the children was charged under part two of article 105 of the criminal code of the russian federation. as
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part of the investigation. a preventive measure in the form of detention was chosen. alexey, by the way, what punishment does the murderer face under this article? he faces punishment under this article up to life imprisonment . lev, we have now heard that he did all this, according to the investigation, out of personal hostility towards his wife in connection with divorce. process, do you agree with this? i am still inclined to believe that the divorce process was most likely a kind of trigger that served as the beginning of certain actions, these are the motives that he had, apparently in advance and before that, and what do you think could have become the motive, we don’t know how the relationship developed, and between the spouses, what preceded it and
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maybe only microloans served as a reason for divorce and most likely something was brewing much earlier, and this was the last straw, i completely agree with the lion, we don’t see this as an effect, we don’t see that it was in a state of anger, aggression, when there were multiple wounds, yes, that is, it was planned and most likely began long ago, by the way, to kill children in a dream - this is most likely not a concern so that the children do not feel pain, but a manifestation of cowardice when the child looks at him, and for him this was probably a difficulty, evgeniy, but if he wanted to take revenge on svetlana, why take their lives common children. why didn't he harm svetlana? because maybe he just wants svetlana to live and suffer in this guilt, in this grief, in the experience, the feeling of guilt because, oh, you don’t feel
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guilty because you smile at my friends. he was jealous of her, and the jealousy, apparently pathological, was groundless. and your husband was indeed very jealous, for six months he was jealous of me, that is. when i first told him about the divorce, he constantly told me this, i can’t live without you, you are my whole life, but i’ll do something with myself, i i just didn’t want it, i didn’t want anyone to get hurt, i just wanted a peaceful divorce, and when you filed for divorce, your husband often took the children with him, this was the second time they took them into their family, the first time they grandma took them, the second time he took them himself, i under no circumstances... wanted to deprive them of their father, under no circumstances, on the day when you sent the children to him, he didn’t write anything to you, didn’t call, he didn’t call me wrote an sms at about one in the morning, i read about it, only found out about it in the morning, seeing it in phone, and there it was written, so zay
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, maybe you’ll come back, inna, do you think maybe he was waiting for an answer, i can assume that he had already planned what he would do, and he probably... assumed the answer , which he can receive, and probably for him this was the last resolving moment for himself, he did not wait for an answer from svetlana, he found for himself the reason for the last straw when he could proceed with the planned plan. oksana, what impression did your uncle make on you when you were just did you meet him? no, i wouldn’t want my daughter to connect her fate with him, with this man, and why? well, he was closed all his life... aggressive, when they did something to him, he immediately started screaming, you dissuaded your daughter from having a relationship with this person, svetlana said that mom, i love this person, i didn’t do anything ,
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as it were, well, since my daughter fell in love, i think, let them live together, i gave the go-ahead, svetlana, but did you really fall in love with this person so much then? yes, i fell in love with this man, initially, it was mine, it turns out that it was my first love, but she would have loved me, and he loved me, but his love was somehow sick, or what? what was the pain of this love in your opinion? i replaced him as a mother, the fact that his mother did not give him this warmth, this whole thing, evgeny, by the way, how do you understand which love is healthy and which is not? sergey, love is generally such a complex, complex feeling that includes several components, unconditional acceptance of the object of love, respect for it. trust, that's if at least one of these components is missing, we are not talking about love, but neurotic attachment, let’s say when he is jealous of svetlana, he no longer trusts her, the formula of neurosis: i want, i can’t, i want to get a comfortable, safe, reliable model
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of relationship , and i don’t receive it, he saw her as a mother, at first, of course, he tried to compensate for the lack of positive feedback from his mother in his relationship with svetlana, but such compensation is impossible, it is impossible to compensate for maternal dislike at the expense of the love of another woman, this is another, a different nature of the relationship, a different nature of love as a feeling, if you like, but how to properly break off a relationship with such a person? first of all, you need not to flirt with such a person, and if you have already decided to break up with him, you need to clearly define this position and you must maintain this line of behavior. oksana, are you afraid that your son-in-law, when he is free, may begin to take revenge on your... daughter and further? yes, i assume that even if he gets free, he will have the same revenge as he killed my children, grandchildren, as well because of svetlana, there is surveillance, now there are restrictions on her safety, yes,
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law enforcement agencies are taking care of her safety, and i hope that this murderer, he will be isolated from society for... the maximum possible punishment in our country, including including will protect her life from his entire life, so these are precisely the further possible attacks on his part. svetlana, i think that you have nothing to be afraid of, because after our murderer is transferred from the pre-trial detention center to places of imprisonment, serving his sentence, then gently speaking, the criminal community, well, it does not approve of such behavior, i think that by doing so they will sign a death sentence for him, so i think you will not meet with him again, he did not expect that his non-conflict relative could brutally kill his beloved children, in our studio alexey tikhonov, hello,
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hello, alexey, how did you find out what your relative did, it was in the morning, your daughter came. you say, sit down bye, sat down, she says, her niece’s grandchildren died, wait, you have to be accused grandchildren yes, yes, yes, what kind of person he was, he was a good, decent person, how he treated children, well, i won’t say it was bad, look, he had toys, everything was there, little kids play, then did you think , alexey, that your great -nephew had a happy family, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that ’s what the neighbor said about their family, let ’s see, olga dzyuina lives not far from... the mother of the accused for more than 20 years old,
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characterizes the family as positive, the neighbor’s son as a man of few words, but friendly, non-violent, calm, but somehow taciturn, you just ask him to do everything, but he never refused help in anything. svetlana and her husband often brought their children to visit their grandmother, i can only tell you that the family always seemed happy to her, she never heard them quarreling. sometimes he swears, you can hear it in half the village, the children were taken care of very much, the children were always good, and the children were like that with everyone, well, they weren’t shy about anyone, they talked to everyone about how these cheerful and sociable children, dear the father killed, the woman found out the day after the tragedy, heard the conversation of fellow villagers in the store, i was completely shocked, he loved children so much, he always looked after them. but he was always with them, i would never have thought
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what happened to him, svetlana, did you really never have any conflicts with your husband, or did you just not tolerate quarrels in public? we usually had conflicts at home, and we showed a good, calm, exemplary family there, but why did you do that? but why take all this out of the hut, why so that everyone can see, what kind of family i have, but i didn’t want this. inna, svetlanna did the right thing, or if she had told her a little earlier about the problems , about the scandals, and those around her could perhaps have helped her, well, i think that it is unlikely that those around her would have helped, uh, it’s a different matter if she had known some harbingers, she could share with someone close to her, yes, share with her mother, but uh, she herself, not being a specialist, could not assume and know what the prerequisites could be, and probably if she suddenly ...she once said that we are we disagree with you, then i could have run
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into some kind of aggressive reaction at home, why didn’t svetlana listen to her friend and earlier didn’t run away from her husband without looking back, there was nothing left to save, he still loved her with his sick love, there are no such reasons, there is no excuse for such horror, it doesn’t exist, don’t switch, we’ll be back very soon, our favorite show is on the air: superstar, the theme of today’s episode is the disco of the century. the musical work here is colossal. very poklyzinsky with his trick. as if you know i visited
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you can imagine, this is what she’s been saying for 2 years, how she’s been blowing my mind, asking for a divorce, lately she’s been pushing home, constantly and a lot with her divorce, before he immediately i was going home. elena recalls: when her son brought svetlana into the house, she did not like her, but in 2016 the young they had a secret wedding, the mother had nowhere to go, she reconsidered her attitude towards her daughter-in-law. for the first time, the question of divorce arose six months later, then the son himself spoke about it. elena even began to dissuade him. i am different. i shouldn’t have, but after that he somehow didn’t trust me anymore. then everything settled down, the family began to seem happy, but one day the son admitted to elena
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that he was not sure of his relationship with his eldest child, but since he accepted him, it means that even if it is not his, it means that this is still our girl, there was no doubt, svetlana, and did your husband really doubt it? that a son was born from him? no, and he didn’t say anything like that to me. oksana, you are offended that your son-in-law’s relatives and mother blame your daughter for everything. they are always the most important thing, they don’t blame themselves, but constantly blame us, this is not this, this is not that, just to make sveta look bad for something. svetlana, did they at least come to the children’s funeral? the children's funeral took place in her house, she... the force said that let's have a children's funeral in my house, to which i agreed, svetlana, and you do you go to the cemetery every day?
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at the moment i don’t go to the cemetery every day, because my mother took me to her place after that day, after the funeral the day after we left for per, she is afraid that i will do something to myself, alexey, and you were among those who came to say goodbye to the children, yes, there was, we have a plot, let's see, two wooden crosses: without a fence with portraits of a smiling blond girl and her older brother with big kind eyes. the lives of three-year-old vasilisa and seven-year-old roma were cut short really start. belenka is so beautiful. on the graves there is a mountain of toys dusted with white snow; relatives brought them to the children, who often come here to visit the kids. these are very small guys, how can you not root for them, they are handsome. i'm so sorry, what will you do? yes, now i can’t get it out of my head , when i lie down, everything, something that i think about them,
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about the guys, these shots just break my heart, because all these toys could have been in their hands, i can just imagine how happy they were , when their father told them he was coming, they planned that they would spend wonderful weekend surrounded by... love , care, affection, warmth, and i hope that they did not experience any additional suffering, as you say, looking at these shots, bright, sweet, kind angels who are still didn’t start life, i believe that there is not a single reason to do this to these little angels, but anna is right, the reasons, the reasons that prompted them, lasted a long time. something else, there are no such reasons, there is no justification for such horror, no, my deepest
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condolences. inna, like a mother who has lost two of her children, to at least a little drown out this terrible pain, loss, what should she do? it doesn’t need to be drowned out, because the worst thing is not to live through this pain , to stay in it, as a rule, mothers, yes, can withdraw, go into depressive states, severe ones, without showing the pain that exists, and the best thing is, what relatives, yes, close ones, can do is to give the opportunity to express this pain, yes, cry, talk, remember the children as much as necessary, and say that don’t cry is to conserve yourself in this pain, therefore, but now too little time has passed, to say that it will drag on early, no, but to continue to live and make
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new plans, to find new supports for herself, this is what svetlana has to do, to plan how she can continue to live , this is the most difficult, but the most important thing to do, alexey, do you think svetlana’s husband blames himself? in what he did, yes, it’s very hard for him now too, do you think he ’ll be able to live with what he did, i don’t know how, but it will be, that’s it, for the rest of his life, it’s everything will be in it, friend svetlana told her a long time ago that it was time to file for divorce, in the studio lydia vyatkina, hello, hello, lydia! how long have you been friends with svetlana? yes, we have been friends for a long time, we studied at the technical school together. and you know her husband well, her husband not very well, but uh,
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she’s constantly on him... he broke her phone, she wanted to call the police on him, she had to run to a neighbor, well, to call the police, since he was on her the phone was broken. svetlana, and your husband hit you, put his hand to you, with a knife, jumped, jumped with a knife, the moment began when he became aggressive, and i have a dachshund dog, and i was with him, well, for some reason i stroked him and took him into my arms. dachshund and he said that you treat the dog better than you treat me, they say, well, over the course of these six months, i really, well, i stopped somehow contacting him at all, so he came from work, as if he wanted to eat , he ate himself, i no longer fed him, nothing , that is, i lived purely, me and the children, that is, for me
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, in principle, this person did not exist, it turns out that i paid attention to everyone except him. well, except for him and he went out into the street, he wanted to kill the dog, but i didn’t let him kill the dog, i took this dog away from him, we started having a fight with him, he grabbed a hunting knife lying next to him on the windowsill, he made it with the handle so that with the blade towards him, the handle towards me, he began to shake me, press me so that i would hit him, to which, while i called the police, he completely broke me. that the phone, with all my grief, i managed to escape, climb over the fence, reach the neighbors, call the police from them, the police arrived, took him to the department, after some about three hours later, maybe he returned home, but there was no such outbreak of aggression, that is, he just went to bed, liti, and you convinced your friend to leave such a husband? yes
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, i repeatedly asked her to... it’s impossible to live with him, i called her to my place, well, to help her somehow, well, to which she constantly answered that we have a family, we were trying to save something, there is nothing left to save, our women’s mentality is to endure, suffer and wait for something, so i saw what situation was happening in the family svetlana, this killer, he still loved her with his sick love to such an extent that he was jealous of her... and of the puppy, even of the children, svetlana says that well, i already lived just under the same roof, i already lived for the children, with it didn’t directly intersect with him, so this female one didn’t intersect, this is passive aggression, which, as you know, a time bomb is one of the most severe measures of torture and can lead to something like this, i don’t blame svetlana in any way now, but at least i would like
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to say that if in such a situation there you are a woman - you understand that you don’t want to be with this man, and he loves you, but you can’t torment him with your dislike of being with him, you definitely need to leave. svetlana, but if you held on to your family until the last, surely there were bright, happy moments in your life? the twentieth year, in all the years, probably the happiest moment was when i gave birth to my daughter, he just changed, that is, he, he stopped being on the phone, he... did something around the house, the person completely changed, then a year later he has this again resumed, that is, he came home from work, that’s it, he doesn’t have any children, no one , it’s just all about the phone, but you were happy, nevertheless, at least for a short period, a short period, yes, but so i his children are very loved, in the photographs from your family album, your children are always smiling, in these frames,
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the sererenikov family is walking in the yard. at home, roma delovita is talking with a friend, little blonde vasilisa is cheerfully dancing to a catchy song, and then runs to her dad for a hug. and then happy roma put on for the first time a school uniform, accompanied by his mother and father , he went to first grade, the boy had a bright bouquet in his hands, a sincere childish smile on his face. this summer, together with their parents, vasilisa and roma went to the zoo for the first time. svetlana photographed her husband and children together. and in this photo the whole family is together, mom and dad are hugging the children tightly. it is clear that the family was not, so to speak, lost. the question arises, how then to identify cases at the stage of preventing such terrible crimes, so i now understand that, including through means such as
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our program, we have to convey one simple thing. for all those who are on the other side of the screen, think about it, if you see any prerequisites for aggression, if you see any preconditions for your internal conflict. loved one, please don’t be lazy, inform the guardianship, the guardianship authority , the police department, tell someone close to you, a psychologist, think about it, because the problem is that we very rarely think about it and ca n’t even think about it invest yourself in the fact that your spouse could so potentially be a danger to himself, for the children, and for you, will svetlana really have to pay debts for her husband, who killed their children in cold blood? everyone calls me and says that i have to pay it all off. svetlana, you must initiate this proceeding. watch right after the commercial. a brother and sister are confident
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on ntv. beyond. this is beyond the bounds. svetlana serebrennikova from the village of kabalut in udmurtia sent her seven-year-old son and three-year-old daughter to visit her father. while the children were sleeping, a cold-blooded man killed them. a relative of the accused, alexey tikhonov, believes that if the woman had not filed for divorce, no bloody massacre would have happened. i think that it was necessary to save the family, save the family and continue to live, the children could have been alive, thoughts of divorce had been tormenting her for 5 years, admits svetlana serebrennikova, but that the price the lives of her children will stand for freedom, it still doesn’t fit in her head, for me at the moment it’s still a dream, i don’t let them go, and i don’t accept it. i have it myself
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, i still don’t have the awareness that i ’ve lost them, my brain just refuses to accept it, svetlana, do i understand correctly, you didn’t have time to divorce your husband, yes, i’m officially his wife, everyone’s in debt they want to pin it on me, since he took away everything in the marriage, everyone calls me and says that i should pay it all, and in such situations, why should svetlana pay debts of this monster? since the debts were incurred during the marriage, and there was no prenuptial agreement between the parties, it is presumed that all these debts are common, as well as all property. you will need to prove that this money was spent exclusively on him. and what, by the way, did he take this money for, loans? i don't know. svetlana, you must initiate this proceeding on the division of jointly acquired property. and even if nothing.
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