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profitable, alpha profitable. beyond the border, the daughter asked her mother to babysit her grandchildren, and the grandmother gave her grandchildren to the guardianship authorities. in the studio irina kiryanenko with her husband andrey. hello, hello , hello, irina, andrey, i can’t even imagine what happened to you when you found out that there were no children, yes, in fact, i remember that day, i screamed, cried, and didn’t know where to call , what to do, and the children are small, very small, artyom is one and a half years old, grisha is 5 months old, irina, why are you decided to leave my grandmother’s sons, my husband had a high fever and a purulent sore throat, and i decided that i could take them to my grandmother. this is the right decision, because
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the children really would have gotten sick and it wouldn’t have been better, but how did you find out, andrey, that the children are no longer with their grandmother, the employees called, they already told us , they called me, yes, the pddn employees said that you have 2 hours to come pick up the children, an hour later i called the traffic police and said that i was going to pick them up, and the traffic police officer told me that already it’s late, i called an ambulance for them, they will now be taken to the hospital. they were taken to the hospital, now they are in the hospital, they said that they will then be taken to an orphanage, they somehow explained to you why they will be taken to the home itself, why they will not be returned to you, and yes, they explain this by the fact that we are a dysfunctional family , they won’t give them to us, and that they won’t give them to us, did you ask your mother why she did that? how did she explain this to you?
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the only thing she said was that yes, it was my fault that i took them away in the first place, didn’t call you, but apologized, but no explanation there were none, to be honest, this situation is beyond my understanding, i don’t understand why the grandmother could hand over her grandchildren to the guardianship authorities without explaining anything to her daughter, and i can imagine what a tragedy this is for the mother, some kind of grief, how... it’s painful and difficult, and most importantly , the guardianship authorities, why did they accept this, that they had some evidence that this was a dysfunctional family, how is it possible, from the words of a person, to simply take in, accept children, well, not having figured out the situation is unclear, we’ll figure it out, andrey, and you are always on i lived with my wife and children separately, yes, from the first day we met, we live separately, but now where do you live, in a dorm room that’s my property, you actually have a good relationship with your mother-in-law, neutral, what kind of mother-in-law, son-in-law? andrey, do you
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consider your marriage successful? yes, i love my wife , my wife loves me, and we love our children, then what’s the matter , how did you even meet erina, a classmate called me, at that time they were in a relationship with erina, asked for help to arrange rented housing for them, i helped them, that’s how we met, and later they separated and i began to look after her, then he found out that i was pregnant, then i found out that she was pregnant, and we decided that we would give birth to artyom, and that this would be my child, that is, it turns out that you are only the father one son, so blood , yes, indeed, one, you registered yourself for the second, yes, adopted, both are my children, irina, and before your family came to the attention of the authorities, yes, we stayed with andrei’s mother all summer, and we didn’t go to the clinic, the clinic agitated that we didn’t allow patronage, she was just at home with her, accordingly, they transferred all this to the guardianship authorities, and the guardianship authorities came to us, saying
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that everything was bad at home, everything was bad, and the floor was dirty, the child was walking around with dirty feet, then the police department came, once together with the district police officer, there was also no commission, they didn’t register us, but they said that we were under their control, maya, and this could really happen, i think, yes, if the guardianship authorities have been exercising supervision for a long time, this is their main function to control families , perhaps at the moment when another call came from grandmothers, guardianship authorities have already decided not to hesitate and simply immediately take the children in order to further establish the actual presence ... of a danger to their lives. irina, why couldn’t you and your children come to the clinic that summer? was it that far away? kinggesep is very far from st. petersburg, well , maybe 200, or what, if 250, do you live in st. petersburg? we live permanently in st. petersburg, but after i gave birth to gregory,
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we left for kingisscep, were there any clinics in the trailer? i didn't think it was necessary a healthy child, the children would be absolutely healthy. natalya. did i understand correctly that irina was supposed to show the children at the clinic at the place of registration, the first month of the child’s life, accordingly , patronage is provided to medical workers who come to the place of registration of the mother and child, but again, the mother should have taken care and informed - in advance, yes, that she will live at another place of residence for some time, but legally, and the child is under the supervision of... her parents, so i believe that there are grounds just like this to control the guardianship authorities, i believe that there were no legal grounds , it doesn’t happen that they came right away and took it away, you know, there’s probably a complex of stories here, yes , which you and i don’t know yet, the story about the fact that to go, not to go to the clinic, they are healthy, well
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, you are not a doctor and you and i don’t have the right to leave it to something that doesn’t hurt yet, irina, andrey, but you intend to fight to the last for the children, to do everything , what will the guardianship authorities say so that the boys return to you, we will do everything so that our children return to us as quickly as possible, your mother irina assures that you should under no circumstances be trusted with children, in the studio elena metalnikova with her roommate igor, hello, elena and igor, hello, elena, it’s true that with your own hands, you gave your natural grandchildren to the guardianship authorities, well, it turns out, yes , it’s true, no, she didn’t give them away, she just brought them so that the children could be seen by a doctor, the children are sick, they needed to be looked after, just look, it’s not that simple , irina and i don’t communicate much at all, we’ve been together for a long time
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conflict between us, that evening, she asked to sit with the children for an hour while she went to the pension fund, i usually do not agree to sit with her children. well, that evening i agreed, i said: “okay, bring it, i’ll sit for an hour.” an hour has passed, i have the children , at that moment irina calls and says: in general, mom, excuse me, i can’t pick up the children, i’ll try to pick them up tomorrow morning, at that moment the ground just disappeared from under my feet, after all. firstly, i have a job, secondly, i’m already raising her eldest child, who in principle, she also left it to me, even so, this is the kind of thing, then let’s sort everything out in order. irin, why did you leave your eldest son to your mother? this is our common decision, he considers her his mother, and he considers me his sister, she, as soon as he was born, held him in her arms, she considers him a son,
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she loves him, he loves her, and in order not to spoil the child’s psyche, they ask so that i write a refusal from him, i’m stalling for time, because i don’t understand how to do the right thing, refuse or not refuse, irin, wait, wait, you ’re talking about this so simply now, it’s like a throwaway, but i ’m shocked how a mother could leave her little child, this is an absolutely terrifying act on your part, as i see it, elena, how did this happen? , why did your grandson stay with you, irina came to us, already being pregnant, that is, she had a relationship with this young man, when she came to us, she already said that that’s it, we broke up there and i will raise the child, well then there has already been a very long period of time, of course, well, interrupt, no there can’t even be any question of interruption, but where is his father? we know who he is , but they don’t communicate and we don’t seem to bother anyone either, we don’t call, we don’t write, we didn’t think that if
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everything turned out that way, she would remain a single mother, and we basically decided that yes, the child will be born and we will help, because we have already mentally prepared for this, no, no, and before i came to my mother who was pregnant with timofey, yes, i was with my father in the irkutsk region, i remember this wonderful day, when i called to my mother, the decision was that i would come, but there was a condition that i refuse timofey, and my mother was here, but no, everything was not like that, in general, you’re lying, what did you do in usol to your siberian father, while you were pregnant, you drank , smoked, walked , her dad just called and said that she was walking here, so we decided to come to her in st. petersburg and give birth in the center of almazov, wait, it was you igor who insisted that - our joint decision came to you yes the joint decision was basically yes . igor, tell me at what age are you
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you are raising your stepdaughter 12 years ago , i understand that both irina and her child have already become family to you over the years, tell me, did you meet your stepdaughter from the maternity hospital, i was at work, no, i didn’t meet her, but they helped with the child , as soon as the light appeared , yes from the first day, she lived with us for six months, that is , we helped, we raised, we did everything, please, then she refused to feed, she then at first refused to feed, she said, my chest hurts, i don’t i will feed, i say, irina, well, how can it be, the child needs to be fed, no, it’s good, we fed buy formula, then six months later she just left, she simply disappeared, and where did she go, well, let her tell you where she went, i went to nizhny tagil, but my mother had a fight, i don’t remember why, i was just getting ready to leave, irin , wait, didn’t your heart ache for your little timofey? she was sick, of course, i thought, i called , but erena, how did you even understand that she
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abandoned the child, she wrote to me: mom, i’m sorry, i can’t live like this anymore, and i ’m leaving when i arrange my life, when i have everything will work out, i’ll take timosha, i’m hysterical i was there for probably three days, i just looked at this baby, i couldn’t understand why, why this could happen to a small child, in the end... this situation as it is, they accepted it, started raising it, then it came into existence, stood up the question that we needed to go to the doctors, we understood that if we went somewhere, the child would be taken away from us. irina at that time was in nizhny tagil, we told her irin, we need a power of attorney, she said, okay, send money, i’ll do it, we ’re sending money, a copy of the passport once, it’s gone , we’re sending money, a copy of the passport two, disappeared, in the end... for the third time igor , what is it, i don’t remember, comes to nizhny tagil, finds her somewhere there, she writes me
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a power of attorney, on the condition that i take her from nizhny tagil to st. petersburg, she didn’t even have the money to fly out of there, i’m taking her here to st. petersburg, we think with the hope that she will get up and live normally, i believed in this a week ago, i constantly tell lena, lena, she will be fine, let’s accept her , we’re sorry, but after the last time , that’s all, and you, by proxy, continued to raise timofey. we are by proxy we placed him in kindergarten, he goes to prepare for school, twice a year we take him to the sea, the child is growing up to a full life. until timofey was 3 years old, we definitely hoped that she would find herself a normal man, get married, they would have a family, they would raise a child together. now, of course , there is no longer any question of timofey going somewhere to live, or of him calling her mom, but irina thinks, she has doubts whether to refuse or not to refuse, because... maybe then irina will stop having many children , will lose some benefits, maybe maybe she has some other obstacles, i
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don’t know what’s stopping her from having a single child. alexander, if elena treats her eldest grandson with such warmth, how can we explain the fact that with her own hands she called in the guardianship authorities for her younger grandchildren. i think that when elena was born, they said the following phrase: “we accepted and somehow began to do something, to educate.” it seems to me that they didn’t accept it, all this is a burden, this is a form of struggle with my own daughter, so i really feel sorry for irina, i don’t think that she is some kind of bad person, and there is something wrong with her, she makes mistakes, like all of us, sergei , what do you think, i think that your grandparents have put themselves in a difficult situation, if you allow them to call you grandfather, they are already raising one, they have already done a great job, and what’s that all for them now? time
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will be born, no one forgot that she was raised by this mother, and if elena did not bring her daughter either the maternal instinct, or that children should not be abandoned, then it is the mother’s fault, maybe she lacked maternal love, maybe she lacked fatherly love maybe i'm through it now she sorts things out with her parents, but in any case, the children should not be to blame for anything, so i think. they were handed over, and where were we, wait, wait , where were we supposed to put them, and where were we supposed to put them, to my work, to her work, they were alone at home, you are adults, come up with something, find a way out from the situation, they also have a family, from what moment do people become adults, can i ask a question when i understand the value of human life, elena, and do you somehow regret your action, yes, i regret it, at the moment when she brought me
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children, i was scared, i was scared that history would repeat itself, and we would, and we would sit with these. why did you think that she wouldn’t come back, that there was some kind of text message, maybe a note, where did you get such premonitions, there was a note, we have this note, let’s look at it together, mom, i’m a coward, i i’m afraid of losing my children , artyom has diathesis, grisha has allergies, i can’t cope, we have nowhere to go, the children and i, please, until tomorrow, so that i can rent a room, or the tenant will move out, they don’t deserve to live. conditions, it says here that i will return, i found this note in the inspector’s office , i looked like that, i have it there, well, she brought them to me with a stroller, there was a bag in the stroller, i take out this bag, when i saw this folder with documents and there’s just artyom’s card, all the evidence about the birth, that is, everything with a whole package of documents, please, mother
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, educate me, i was even more scared, i was so scared that i just really didn’t know what to do, it was beautifully written, i followed them for 2 days, i was with her there was a connection, i brought them to her on thursday, at saturday she took them away, elena , do i understand correctly that you waited for your daughter’s return for 2 whole days, but on the first day i told her: come, we’ll talk, take them, first i say: take the children, take the children, i’ll give you 2 hours come back, pick up the children, she told me, no, i can’t, and so on, then she writes to me, maybe the children will be better off in the orphanage than with me? i say: irina, please come, let's talk. she told me: “i can’t come.” i say what happened? andrei is sick, i say what do andrey and the children have to do with it? the next day she told me that andrei was at work, then he got sick again. i don’t know how to trust this person, she constantly lies. oh, i, at that time i called
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the juvenile affairs inspector and just asked, i said, listen, i don’t know what to do. she says what do you want now, you want to give. children to the orphanage, i say, no, i don’t want to send the children to the orphanage, she told me: good, how are the children feeling, i say, the older ones have snot, they’re like that green bubbles are inflated, and the youngest, he is lying, he is 5 months old, he is lying and he doesn’t even turn over, the inspector says: let’s at least send the children to the hospital so that they can be treated, i say, they will be taken away later, she says, they they won’t take them anywhere , they’ll call their parents, first, or in extreme cases , they’ll call you, because you are... with their grandmother, i say: okay, i agree, let’s do it, but i say, now i myself can’t give the children anywhere, call please, parents, the inspector called them and said, irina, that means why did your children end up in the police stations, and what is irina saying, but i don’t know, we brought the children to grandma for the weekend, because my husband has a sore throat, i say, they
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were brought to me for an hour, in general, the inspector invited this couple to you, give them 2 hours, he also says, let’s do it within. i’m waiting for you, that’s it, the inspector called an ambulance , my mother went in the ambulance, and i followed the ambulance in my car, i personally took them to the ward, and honestly, after that i don’t know what to do at all, i just understand now, that i essentially took away my children, these children just to the baby’s home, and if we don’t somehow take some measures now, then they will just end up there and it will be even more difficult to get them out of the baby’s home, because... it’s already problematic to take them from the hospital, they can’t they give it to me, but they don’t give it to me, because i ’m nobody, in general, why, according to elena, did she and her daughter not have a relationship, i tried to set an example for her, i didn’t feel needed, she has deep childhood psychological trauma , look right after the advertisement, some of our streets do not comply with safety regulations, i think
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twenty-four-year-old irina kiryanenko from st. petersburg says she asked her mother to babysit her two sons because her husband was sick, and she gave the kids to the guardianship authorities. now, the woman says, she cannot return the children back. according to me, my mother, the children could end up in an orphanage, if now i had the opportunity to do everything change, i wouldn’t take them to their mother, my daughter already left her 6 years ago. she has one grandson, whom she is still raising, says forty-five-year-old elena metalnikov. she was afraid that history would repeat itself again, because at first irina asked to babysit for only an hour, but disappeared for 2 days. two days later, i was taken to the department to see the juvenile affairs inspector, and from there to the children's hospital, the eldest had green snot there, the youngest was also coughing from snot, that the children
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would still need to be treated anyway. about the baby house on that no one spoke for a moment. irina, but still, when your children were in the hospital, did you still get there or not? no, because they told me that they wouldn’t let me in, but i call the hospital every day, why did they say that they won’t let you in, they told me: i need permission from the guardianship authorities, we were in the ope authorities, me too, i went to the hospital, and when i asked the doctor what we should do now and how to pick up the children from the hospital, because the course of treatment... ends on friday, they told me that i needed permission from the guardianship, i went to the guardianship, the guardianship simply told me, let my parents issue a power of attorney, i wrote to irina and andrey that i need a power of attorney, 2 days have passed, there is no power of attorney, may, but in general, what is really a way out of this whole situation? in this situation, i think , at least two rights violations were recorded on irina’s part, the first was just when the guardianship authorities came home, found that
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the child was dirty all around, and accordingly drew up reports stating that the child’s living conditions did not correspond due, second time, when my mother called the law enforcement officers, from that moment a mechanism was already launched to break, which is now quite problematic, i really sympathize with elena, of course, in this situation she can be understood, since she was simply scared, she asked the guardianship authorities for help, she of course, she didn’t want them to be taken away at all, she didn’t want... the authorities in the pddn, the guardianship authorities, and most importantly, go to court. elena, now you want to deprive your daughter of parental rights? you know, we probably hoped until the last moment, that they will probably cope with the challenge, that they can, well, as the practice of the last year and a half shows, the eldest is a
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year and a half old. i have a feeling that nothing will work out for them, and of course, i would gladly take these children into my place, and you can raise them, you have conditions for all three children, we don’t have a luxurious, not a huge apartment, but we will try to do something, in principle, we, if the children, if they allow us to take the children, then we will renovate the house so that they all have a separate room, they are all three boys they will live in a separate room, my colleagues visited your house, let’s take a look, a brick high-rise building in a residential area of ​​st. petersburg, freshly renovated in light colors and new furniture. in this one-room apartment, elena metalnikova has been living with her beloved grandson timofey igor for 3 years. the woman confesses. for now, everyone is huddled in one bedroom, but over time they want to remodel. we are planning to insulate the balcony, move there, for example, some kind of work area, maybe my work area, combine this room with
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kitchen, and... where the kitchen is, give timofey a separate full-fledged room. elena plans to place the two younger ones, grisha and artyom, in the nursery with her eldest grandson. here we could put a bunk bed, then a crib for the little one, here i think we could probably put a work table with school supplies. next year timofey will go to first grade, so his caring grandmother takes the boy to preparatory classes once a week, and then does his homework. how can you call these figures in one word, what is this? square. in his free time, timofey plays with his favorite cars. there are four boxes of them in my grandmother's house. in addition to cars of all brands, the boy has a wall bars. pull up. five times already he’s even succeeded, well , depending on how much porridge he ate in the morning, he ’ll get better at it. in the corner of the bedroom there is a grandson’s wardrobe with clothes for every taste. here are some things
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that timosha has already grown out of. in general , i put them aside separately for the kids who will grow up; these clothes will generally be quite useful for them. irina, well at least you are grateful to your mother for raising your eldest. and is raising his son well? yes, of course, i am grateful to her for this, thank you. do you agree for the children to live with their grandmother and older brother? of course, i don’t agree, i want to return my children to grisha artyom, the grandmother’s conditions are certainly not bad, but one room is still not enough for three children. i believe that children will always be better off with their own mother, and i’m wondering, judging by how irina’s father reacts to irina’s words, it seems to me that he’s been raised for years by his father it was quite tough, perhaps the girl left the family, perhaps the problem was the relationship in the family in which she lived. elina, what do you think, what do you think? well, there is an obvious family conflict here
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, and it has been going on for a very long time, and without resolving this conflict, i think that this family will very often face all sorts of similar situations, so the first thing that needs to be resolved is the conflict between mother and daughter, but i still have a question for my dad, who has not been active during all this time, then yes, as i understand it, the children are also registered with him, why does he take such a passive position, indeed, are you doing something so that the children are given to you, yes, i am here, and if it weren’t for the departments here now, we hear , that you are not going to the hospital because they don’t let us through, elena, but how can you explain the fact that you calmly gave one child or... to be raised by your grandmother, and is fighting for the other two, i, too , throughout the entire program and i ask myself this question, why? lies on the surface complete irresponsibility , complete irresponsibility, in my opinion, why did this
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happen, because at one time, irina was also raised by her grandmother, and when i was 20 years old, i committed a crime and ended up in prison, and irina was an example for her for 5 years, that is, she was 9 years old at that time, i wanted to show her an example of what not to do, but irina apparently decided to go a different route, and your criminal record, it was expunged, yes , well, due to the statute of limitations, it turns out, yes, it was expunged, but the organs guardianship told me that you are do you think that the fact that you were serving a sentence left an imprint on yours? with your daughter, yes, of course, irina, it’s true, you didn’t have enough attention, matter, yes, you didn’t have enough attention from your mother, when igor nikolaevich appeared in our life, i didn’t feel needed by her, she was always on the side, and my stepfather, he
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she cut my hair, she sent me to a nunnery, i lived for 2 weeks in a nunnery, then apparently she felt some kind of guilt and took me away, we went with her to turkey, but the monastery is not about hair... igor, tell me, why did you cut your hair? in turn, because i pulled her out of the brothel, yes, i took her and cut her hair so that she could not go anywhere, so that she would be ashamed, igor nikolaevich, you have a very tough position, you are now talking to her without respect, absolutely, while you say that we gave her everything, i don’t believe you, i’m sorry, i see her sitting there crying, then sergei, look, it means that at first we listened for a very long time from elena, who was not... grateful she has a daughter, and now we have found out that elena also turns out to be not without sin, that is, let’s be able to admit it too your mistakes, including, you did not give her affection, love, attention, then you cut her hair, this is a humiliation of the child’s personality, that is, he has
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deep childhood psychological trauma. natalia, what do you think about all this? of course, it’s a very difficult life situation, and i just look at this family and think about how we are. we all go through life as lifelong warriors, we cannot make mistakes, because we pay for all mistakes, however, on the one hand, we see a responsible approach, and a desire to take care of children, on the other hand, of course there is also a desire, but there is no understanding and responsibility, as it were in my opinion, so of course, it is very good that there is such a transfer, there are such specialists who will help the family find the right solution. it seems to me that the children will be better off with elena, anastasia, but what do you think, with whom will the children be better off? sergey, here we clearly have an unresolved conflict, but mothers and daughters, and we understand why, here the word love has never been heard at all, we are talking about
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children, about three children, and we never say the word love, neither family nor love, nobody needs children here, this is directly obvious, and definitely, but there is no such value here, none of you wants to return them. because he likes to come and say to the same hospital, to the same guardianship authorities: i love you, i will do everything to get them back, none of you did, and this is surprising to me, may, what about my grandmother’s criminal record? could become an obstacle to the return of children? in this case, this criminal record has already been expunged, the statute of limitations for bringing to justice, in principle , will not have any impact on the issue of guardianship; we now see absolutely adequate behavior of a person and the absence of a recurrence of criminal prosecution, all this shows that elena has corrected herself, realized, has taken the path of a legitimate normal life and natalya, and if
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not to her mother and grandmother, they can give it to other relatives children, great-grandmothers, for example, this will be more difficult to do, because after all , the family code clearly provides for a list of persons who can apply to the court for guardianship; accordingly, this list is limited, the grandmother is close relative, the great-grandmother is no longer included in the circle of these persons, however, the boys’ great-grandmother herself is ready to become the guardian of her great-grandchildren. in the studio lyudmila zhiganova, hello, hello, lyudmila, are you really ready to take your great-grandchildren under your wing? i ’m ready to take my great-grandchildren, because i realized that my mother doesn’t need them, and you think that you can handle it, i’m young, i’m still strong, i’m still working, wow, oh, lyudmila, excuse me, how old are you? 62, what is your job? at the institute. who do you think is to blame for the fact that your
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great-grandchildren are not with their parents now? the thing is, that irina brought them and threw them to us. your daughter told us, lyudmila, that you raised your granddaughter for 5 years, you might have thought that she would simply abandon her children. who knew that she was like this to trick us, she was small, very pretty, a girl, very smart, what do you think, and at what point did everything go wrong? love, then... then we get together again, then we separate again, then we get together again, she came to me once, brought her grandchildren, we all went to bed at 11:00, i wake up at 76 in the morning, my door is open, no one is home no, i missed it i don’t have any money on my card, i can’t go to my bank, they downloaded the app and took out the money card, who are they, well, they probably thought together how much they stole from you?
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well, they returned 10,000, right? irina, andrey, it turns out that you robbed lyudmila? andrei was not aware of this, but the money was returned to her, and why did you take the money , excuse me, why did you take it, i can’t explain why i took the money, but tell you, there is something to live on, in principle, on what? andrey works, earns money, feeds him, but where does he work? i'm doing the finishing finishing, construction, electrical, plumbing, that is, construction, it happens that there is no object, and that you have no financial cushion? was, once, but don’t you think that you should have taken care of the financial well-being of your own family, in fact, i’m alone, it’s hard, why is the godfather of irina’s eldest son sure that she cannot be trusted with children under any circumstances, this is not a person, an animal that just needs to be sterilized, it’s dangerous for them to leave
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, is sure that she the granddaughter does not need children, she abandoned them to her mother for 2 days, and not for a couple of hours, so the woman is ready to take custody of her great-grandchildren on herself. well, you can’t return the children to such a mother, but she’s a useless mother, and they were better off with me. lyudmila, are your granddaughter and her husband not coping? what's wrong with our upbringing great-grandchildren , in your opinion, well, apparently they can’t cope, because before that she called, her neighbor supposedly called, take the children, i have to work tomorrow, but i don’t know where to take the children, no one is home, and you didn’t try, lyudmila , for my part, somehow help my granddaughter, talk to her, she ’s still young, she can’t cope with everything, she’s still stupid, of course, i also, when she stole money from me, i helped her, i artyom and...' i bought suits, and overalls, jackets, and now, who do you think the children should stay with, but it’s dangerous to leave them
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already these children, and if your daughter is not given custody, do you have all the conditions to raise the children? yes, let's see how you live, lyudmila zhiganova lives in the house opposite her daughter elena, the woman specially rented an apartment next door in order to see her great-grandson timofey more often. and now she wants to take grisha and artyom for herself, here’s my room, there’s enough space here , enough for the three of us, i think, the caring great-grandmother is already getting ready for the boys to move in, she bought them educational toys, rattles, blocks and cars, tyoma played these toys, he is a boy, so he loves these little men, he loves cars, he loves cars very much. lyudmila also stocked up on children's literature to read bedtime stories to her great-grandchildren. artyom hasn’t listened to them much yet, well
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, for a year and a half, but he’s already trying to say something. in the kitchen, little artyom already has a special high chair waiting for him to eat, so that it is convenient for him to eat, and for me to feed him comfortably; in the bathroom, the great-grandmother has prepared everything for bathing the babies and for their first step into adulthood. i bought baby shampoo from i washed the baths and there is another pot on the balcony. my mother bought the chair, this purple one, everything else is mine, everything else is all toys, except for books, this is all exclusively andrei’s, how did my grandmother end up with it? then the question is, we parted ways with andrei before grisha was born. and you separated, then broke up with andrei after grisha was born. what do you think is a normal family? and you? from the maternity hospital, when you gave birth to krisha? where were andrei and you when she was discharged from the maternity hospital? i was in the department for what? how
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was it considered theft? why did you get together? and separated? we always have misunderstandings in our family, we always agree, disagree, because he beats her, beats her? he doesn’t beat me, don’t, well, you complained that he beat you again, your ribs hurt there, there are simply no words, this is really beyond understanding, there is a very tough stepfather here, who is elevated... this is what we heard today, here is another moment, irina has a very big fear of punishment, why does she steal, why doesn’t she ask, that is, this trust is so unbuilt, that is, she has been living in such a situation for many years panicky fear that she is even afraid to ask, if when she needs money, she goes to steal, but because she has more of this fear, the fear of rejection, the fear of punishment she has more, because she has been punished since childhood. do you think she can be trusted with raising children? i have doubts, that is, based on the situation here , which, of course, will be better with elena, and irina’s friend
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andrey considers them wonderful parents, in the studio pavel khlopkin, hello, you ’ve known irina and andrey for a long time, i’ve known them for about two years old, why do you think they are good? parents, well, i see how the children treat them, i see how tyoma runs to his dad and kisses him before bed, the first year of our communication, i thought that this was his own son, they are even similar in appearance than here, i think that they are completely safe in the family, it even happens when ira and andrei quarrel, yes, they quarrel for a couple of minutes, call each other names, and after half an hour they will have mercy again, that is, they are just explosive people like that, visiting their friends, you visit often, i come once a week, yes, we visited visiting your friends, let's see what conditions they have now for their little sons, this long narrow corridor with peeling walls and protruding wires
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leads straight to irina kiryanenko's room in the st. petersburg hostel. a woman has been living here with her husband andrey for 2 years; the space is light and cozy on less than ten square meters. all these repairs before grisha’s birth were done by the husband himself with his partner and friend with his own hands. there is not enough space in the room, but irina managed to place everything necessary for sons. in the corner there is a crib for grisha, opposite a playpen for artyom. we temporarily set up a playpen so that he... well, so that he can sleep not with us, in the playpen, but grisha sleeps here with us, so that the children do not freeze, irina also has everything, the closet is bursting with clothes that are already simply there’s nowhere to put it, they have a lot of shoes, and different types of pants , they even have winter pants, new ones, we ’ve never worn them at all, things ourselves, well, we buy them, some we buy ourselves, some our mother gives away,
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warm blouses of all sorts good, good, all the things are washed , there are no problems with toys either, there are very, very, very many things here, a bear, also his favorite toy, grisha’s all sorts of toys, like this, everything is waiting for grisha, everything is waiting for tyoma too, tyomin’s bag, by the way, is here there is even something else, at children's things, irina looks with undisguised melancholy, i really want to gather my children, i really missed it. lord, mikaela, how do you like the conditions, normal conditions, you know, our mothers and grandmothers did not live in such hostels, but there were really good renovations there, there are sleeping places, clothes, toys, yes, everything is absolutely within normal limits according to my feelings , the most important thing is that i see that irina loves and really wants to get her children back, lalita, what do you think, as a doctor, where will the children be better,
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i’m all equally on the woman's side. yes, great-grandmothers , because i’m still interested, at this age he should at least turn, but in different directions, he should be able to do this very well, i wonder if the child is registered with specialized specialists, such as an endocrinologist, cardiologist, irina , consists, no, does not consist, we were in clinic, we have all the vaccinations according to age, the doctors say that he has a developmental delay due to the fact that he is very heavy. if in 5 months you have never reached a cardiologist or an endocrinologist , why am i talking about these two specialists, because excess body weight, first of all, we exclude pathologies from the thyroid gland, and from cardiology, that is the cardiovascular therapist said that there was nothing to worry about, and even now they are in the hospital and it’s okay they don’t say anything like that, well, that is, i call every day, but they didn’t take tests for
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thyroid hormones, cardiac electrolytes, for everything? handed over, no, no, no, well, leaving nothing, then we can, irina, irina, tell me, do you actually love your children, we love our children very much. timofey's godfather doesn't believe a single word, his mother, dmitry egorkin in the studio, everyone, hello, hello, dmitry, so that means trust in your godson's mother, no? no, of course, this is not a person, this is an animal that needs just sterilize. it seems to me that she should no longer bear children like a cat, you breed them, you breed them, then a boy was born at the door, we will give birth until the girl is born, please, did you at least just raise your child, at least raise him or something- did it, paid attention, how did you get rid of them? dmitry, why do you have so much negativity at once, because you know, humanly speaking, i’m just offended in
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life when a person wants to have children, but he doesn’t succeed, that’s who cares... and tries have children, you don’t need them for nothing and you treat them that way, i just treat timofey like my own son, he grew up in your arms, he began to walk before my eyes, lena is like a mother, i’m proud of her to we constantly went somewhere in nature, i go to the dacha, they come to my... dacha, timofey himself says: when we go to dima ’s dacha, do you know that timofey’s brothers may end up in an orphanage? yes, unfortunately, i know about this, but even if something doesn’t work out for lena, i’m ready to take it all on myself, because well, the children are in an orphanage no one will give it back while everyone just says: i’m ready, i want, i can, yes, but so far no one is doing anything, look at her, i just noticed when this skirmish began, this is a hunted
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animal, she lives all the time in some kind of conflict, stress, i understand that you probably have noble intentions, but not being able to control herself constantly in such a stressful situation, she was, yes, that is, she does not know how to digest swearing or stress at all , at least she has something, at least here at least somewhere, as long as it’s quiet and calm, that’s obvious, well, that’s right there, of course, nothing’s stopping you, my dears, take help, she doesn’t know how, you don’t understand, she doesn’t know how to be a mother, you understand, you now you are trumping each other, who lives better, who will have it better for these children, but no one will have it better for them, for them there is a mother, a father, anastasia, then wait, the guardianship authorities did the right thing by taking the children away from this woman for now acted in accordance with the regulations, the threat to life and health did not return the mother the father takes care of the children, you see, our guardianship authorities can take the child, even if a completely successful family did not have time to take, i don’t know, traffic jams, something else, a child from kindergarten, they are obliged, then there are certain
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regulations by which everyone lives follow , another question is that there are already certain, and aggravating, circumstances when they are being watched, but this does not mean that they need to be reset to zero, just multiplied by zero and then distribute the children to the next person who wants it, well, no, well, help them. you can take this situation under your control? of course, of course, i certainly, not only will i take control of her, and i want to help her, are mother and daughter ready to forget old grievances in order to return the children to the family? i still recommend to all relatives here not to break up in a coalition, not to divide forces, but to increase them, help irina, and still retain their parental rights. we'll be back in a few minutes. the woman is sure that when the guardianship authorities took her from her parents, her younger brother was with her, i was 4 years old, and my brother was 4 months old, my brother went to the baby’s home,
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new season. on sunday at 20:20 on ntv. beyond . this is beyond the bounds. her daughter asked her to sit with her grandchildren for a few hours, and she disappeared for 2 days, says forty-year-old elena metalnikova from st. petersburg. the woman was afraid that her daughter would not return for the children and contacted the guardianship authorities. the fact is that i am already raising her six-year-old son. whom she gave birth to at the age of 18, now he calls me mom like his own son, and to be honest, i was afraid that the same thing would happen to these children , her husband got sick, she didn’t want the children to get infected, so she left them with their grandmother , explains irina kiryanenko, the woman claims that she is ready to do anything to return sons into the family, and i will not repeat my mistakes again, i will not leave my children, but as i once left timofey, i... will
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fight for my children, i believe that they are better off with me and my husband than in an orphanage . maya, do you think parents can deprive them of parental rights? now, given that the guardianship authorities have already taken the children, there are certainly grounds for them to go to court with a claim for deprivation of parental rights, and here irina will need to defend her rights in court in order for the children they didn’t take it, and i still recommend it all the relatives here should not be divided into coalitions and forces, increase them, help irina, still retain their parental rights and keep the children with them, in the future they will help take the children, as best they can , if possible, if that’s the plan, which i voiced will not work and we will not agree on everything, then in my opinion the best option would be to arrange guardianship for the grandmother, because the grandmother is young, she has all the conditions for the children to live in comfort and there is every reason for court satisfy... the requirements, i will contribute,
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