well, if you’re sitting, then go, well, go, oh, my little one, seryoga, where are you going, where is he going, i don’t know, but i know. hi, you said you were busy?

vsikhanu, oh, you're really good, svetlana searched for me , chose and paid for it, though it took a long time for all these bodies, of course, but well done , you did it, well done, not your wife, not your wife, a piece of gold, kubatka svetlana viktorovna, yes, it's me, kubatko , and i’m sorry that it’s so late, please accept the delivery, what kind of delivery, building materials, and i told you, the company is fast, they’ve already delivered it, here, there, here - the amount to be paid and the signature, put it down , i’ll drive the car now, what is the amount to pay, i... paid everything, in cash, there

’s such a huge amount, 900,000, i don’t know anything, i haven’t paid, i just freight forwarder, how will you grow up, cash or card, light, russia needs it specialists, artificial intelligence specialists and those who will ensure its technological sovereignty, why is it becoming more and more attractive to be an engineer, why does it make sense to continue studying in western programs?

ensuring why we import their latest equipment, what our own developments and in what industries we have the right to be proud of right now, we’ll talk about this with the rector of the bauman moscow state technical university, mikhail gordin. mikhailovich, bauman moscow state technical university, one of the country's leaders in training specialists in the field of artificial intelligence. what is the peculiarity of the specialization, well, this is enough, a relatively new area, it is, in principle, new, because they call it. artificial intelligence, well, i don’t really like this term at all, it’s decision support system, and these decision support systems are based on different technologies, for many years, for decades, people have been working on automated decision support systems, well, now this name is used, new technologies are used, for example, deep neural networks or some other technologies, features that everything changes very quickly, new technologies arise, as in general in it, so of course, in order to. to train

specialists in this field, you need to be everything time for the ridges, to know them, to understand them, to attract people from the industry in order to give the most relevant knowledge to students, but maybe some special areas are allocated in order to train specialists? now the modern development of artificial intelligence technologies or machine learning technologies, of course, has moved over the past few years from the simplest solution to the simplest tasks such as facial recognition, voice recognition, then e.g. turned into what is now called generative artificial intelligence, generative neural networks that are already creating music or texts or some kind of visual art, and of course, now the most important and modern story is what is called trusted artificial intelligence, when uh, when we are able uh, it’s not easy - to make some decision or propose some solution using an automated system, but to be able to trace why such a decision was made, this is really not easy, this is perhaps the most... interesting

complex tasks now, the tasks baumanka faces, for example, i don’t know in the field of medicine, in the field, i understood there, naturally there are tasks and what are called cyber-physical systems. when we talk about recognition systems, computer vision , work engineering, where such machine learning algorithms are used in general, decision support, and of course, medicine, you are absolutely right, is a very important area in which such systems can be used, because they can bring a lot of benefits in socio-economic sense, we decided to go specifically into medicine, moreover, into cardiology, specifically into cardiology, because we know that quite a lot of artificial intelligence or machine learning systems exist for onological purposes. there are enough diseases there, they are widely used, there are competitors, there are commercial companies, in the west too, but we decided to focus specifically on cardiology. mstu is on the short list of universities that are developing tools for creating new promising materials, i would not even say shortlist, we have an nti center, digital

materials science, now we are the lead, one of the lead executors of the materials science roadmap and specifically its section digital materials science, well , material science is clear, the creation of new materials that must be modern, must be durable, cheap, functional and so on, etc., etc., the word digital is a way of modeling these properties, that is, understanding how, if we connect two different materials, or three or four, we can understand how this the combined composite material will work, by the way, machine learning technologies can also be used there, well, this human competence can be taught to a machine so that it can offer some solutions for a person... and in this way, too, you can achieve some acceleration in reducing the cost of creation new materials. well, in what direction are we moving now, what will be fashionable there in the near future, what is in demand, i don’t know, maybe society and some industries, well, it depends on the technology, of course, composite materials

associated with carbon fiber, as will always be reinforced plastic, and also for aircraft manufacturing, for the automotive industry, carbon fiber is certainly now the number one material in terms of interest, because it provides those properties that metal cannot provide, additional properties, including, relying on these properties, it is possible to create new designs that will be more competitive than traditional ones, i think that’s the point, of course metals will remain important from alloys for for industry, for technology, and more complex materials, woven and non-woven materials, there is a lot of things there, well, yes, in the end, here is armor, multi-layer armor, of course, fabric is also, in a sense, a composite material, what can you say about students, what kind of student are they today, because sometimes you hear from university rectors that, in general, it’s some kind of horror, a nightmare? yes, no, i don’t see any questions, normal guys are absolutely motivated, motivated to achieve scientific and engineering results,

and not necessarily money there is the basis for making some decisions there, often this is a conscious desire to do something, to accomplish something for the country, for the world, if this is... science and money, they are just a way, just a tool, then there is, of course, the guys have changed, and the world has changed, the main change is that before you had to have really encyclopedic knowledge, you had to know a lot, but now you need to be very good analysts, information is everywhere, it is available in endless quantities, via the internet, through gadgets, but you just need find the right thing, put it together correctly, interpret, make a decision, so for an engineer that’s what distinguishes today’s engineer, right? well, that’s what always distinguished a good engineer, the engineer first of all had to apply knowledge, now apply the knowledge of the sea, so a good engineer now gets an advantage over everyone, because he was always taught to apply knowledge, and of course, the speed of development has increased due to for digitalization, due to - new

tools of various kinds in order to uh, in order to develop faster - devices, and of course, for an engineer it’s a joy to create something, your creation speed has increased, you’re faster. you get the result, you can confirm faster that your design, your idea in hardware works, this is class, so for an engineer this is very good, so this profession now, well, i think, should become more and more attractive, because well, the tasks need decide, technological sovereignty as well, devices are important, yes, of course, the idea here is that it turns out that fundamentally, it becomes more attractive, because it’s one thing when you’ve been sawing something for 10 years and after 10 years the result is flying, and another thing is that you... the result is already within a good year, so it seems to me that everything is fine here, we are moving in the right direction, it’s not just about external factors, but also internally , the engineering profession is becoming more attractive. at one time, a course was taken towards a serious rejuvenation of the teaching staff and in general in the country, but

what are your processes here? well i would say it's a process the nineties are still going on, of course, and they hit us hard when it was very difficult, many simply didn’t go. we have people older and people younger, on average 50, but there are not very many fifty-year-olds themselves, well, 40 from 40 to there to 505, well, even from 45 to 55, this is a hole, of course for us. it is important that those who are now 30, who are now 35, well, over 20, okay, they are just entering here, so that they adopt the knowledge that seventy-year-olds, sixty-year-olds now have, and of course, prestige must grow, and it is clear that it is growing , there are my decrees on payments, there are attempts there to give the teacher, the teaching profession, more prestigious all sorts of benefits, well, naturally, from the students, you get a lot of energy, that’s it. and this will allow us to continue to continue this rejuvenation , eventually bring it to fruition and eventually reach a

normal age distribution. as far as i understand , there are no problems with employment among graduates, or at least there are no problems here, that is, suffice it to say that there are always problems, in fact average salaries are quite high, perhaps the only problem, but this is not the problem of graduates, but mine, uh, too many graduates remain in moscow, the moscow region. we are still a federal university , that is, we have to work for the country, but due to the imbalance of salaries, due to the fact that we cannot yet organize internships with regional enterprises very effectively, unfortunately we have a percentage of those who leave working for a company is not very high, these are the two things you need to try to decide, firstly, to still provide our graduates with the opportunity to choose, and secondly, to somehow compensate for the wage gap not only for interesting work, but also financially, they say that balmonka will soon be surrounded by some kind of unique laboratory, the ecosphere, well it’s probably not

the ecosphere laboratory itself, it’s part of the construction of new buildings, one of the buildings is called nature protection technology, which will also contain this laboratory, but we are now in robotics, yes we are in robotics, that’s where it’s being built the central cluster and one of these buildings is called nature protection technology, yeah, we decided a few years ago that we want to deal with this issue, and within the framework of the priority 2030 strategic project, we have a project called baumgo green nature protection technology, where we are doing things related to the carbon footprint, absorption and co2 emissions, in three main areas, this is monitoring, the second is modeling, in order to understand how to interpret this data in the model and turn the measured data into these tons of this co2, and the third is already. uh , let's say, uh, a recommendation on how, what needs to be done , in order to reduce this impact there, well

, as part of a strategic project, this year, for example, we developed a multispectral camera that gives a photograph of green spaces or soil in twelve spectral ranges, in this way you can determine certain parameters, the interaction of soil and atmosphere or tree and atmosphere, and determine its species. for example, age is also possible there determine in this way, and this data is important in order to create a model to understand what phase the forest is in, it absorbs co2 or is already releasing co2, that is, it works differently in different phases, the same applies to reservoirs or soil, that is this is all comprehensive, but in general , as for the equipment, well, that is, there are enough tools for training, because well, it’s no secret that we are focusing on import substitution, or maybe: there is enough parallel here, but we don’t experience any big problems, well never everything

there is enough, you always want something, of course , the possibilities of purchasing western equipment have been greatly reduced, we actually buy some things through parallel imports, some we use domestic, just like software, by the way, in most things we use domestic software , there is a compass, for example, or cementtech, but i believe that we need to continue to teach in the western language, too, because in principle we must teach an instrument with equipment, the same story, of course the most modern western equipment needs to be brought here, continued, used , studied, disassembled, reengineered, and so on , and we are actively engaged in this, and yes, equipment requires money, effort, resources, ingenuity, sometimes, what scientific developments made here in baummanka cause i am especially proud of you, well , there are a lot of them, if i start talking about them now, then i think that there will be only a couple of hours here, or maybe something fresh? of course, we are now very active, also within the framework of the 2030 priority, well, in general we are working on

the elemental component base for quantum computing is superconducting quantum subprocessors and for devices for photonics, integrated photonic circuits , electro-optical modulators, not just a theoretical model or some kind, but we actually produce them ; a technological cycle has been mastered there with a very large number of operations with the corresponding technological culture as for any microelectronics production requires appropriate world- class equipment, here is one of our buildings called quantum park, where it is planned to further expand this activity, which can do not only according to our projects there, well , we are now doing not only according to our projects, but we from fistekhom, from misis, with moscow state university, from kazan, are cooperating on theirs ideas, we make, a component base.