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the woman returned home, and the children ran away. they left a note saying that they did not want to live with her new partner. in the studio of evgeny nesterov. hello. hello, evgeniya. tell me right away, have you found the children? yes, we found it. thank god, where are they now? in a social rehabilitation center. why was a rehabilitation center needed? because a woman found the children, she called the police, and they were taken there. when did you discover that there were no children? 5 days ago, that was. i went for an interview, i wasn’t at home for a couple of hours, i came back and when i went home, i saw their slippers and went straight into their room.

they are now uninhabited and children sometimes run away there, well, yes, she ran around with me, since my friend used to live there, she ’s been there, she knows, that is, you went looking in those places evgeniy had already been to, where she could have been, then when the phone was dead, i came home to charge it, went into the kitchen, saw a note, mom, we don’t want to live with vitya, as vitya won’t be like this ... go to the abandoned place, tell aunt yulina at the entrance without vitya. evgeniya, who is vitya? this is my roommate. we have been living with him for more than 2 years. maybe your daughter and son complained to you about victor? no, they didn’t complain, and honestly, i don’t even understand the reason for my daughter’s action. well maybe he could yell at them, hit, maybe put in a corner. well, for educational purposes he could, well, shout there. to punish, as if

to put them in a corner, but to beat them there or purposefully mock them there never, from whom did you find out that the children were found? in the morning, the pdn inspectors came to me and said that that’s it, the children were found, everything is fine with them, they are healthy, the only thing is that they are scared and cold, you immediately went to them, and almost immediately you went, well... they picked them up, took them to the department, here they come for me the operative arrived about 10 minutes later, do you remember your emotions when you saw the children? of course, i was happy, my soul was like a stone, i was just happy, my youngest son generally stuck to me , and in general my daughter was somehow so detached.

she, well, she was scared, probably in fear? no, it was more like an adventure for her; apparently, she may not understand the whole situation. what did your children tell the police? as they told me, they allegedly beat them there, well, their roommate beat them, punished you there did the police question your partner? of course, they asked how the children treated, well, how everything was in our family, they were mainly interested in victor, how victor treats the children, what kind of relationship they have, with you or your roommate? if there were any charges, they would have already detained them and placed them in a cell there, well, but we are still only conducting an investigation, and the guardianship authorities, how the guardianship authorities reacted to this , have not yet contacted me, i i tried

to call the pdn inspector, she didn’t pick up the phone from me, now you want the children back as soon as possible, of course, yes, i really want it. the investigation advised me how to do all this, on monday i go to work, we will improve the conditions, of course, where we live now, this is impossible with such conditions, now you can see the children while they are in the rehabilitation center, i must get permission from the bdn, that is, you have never seen them since that moment, i saw them in the department, i went out, they were taken away. to the dining room, we met them by chance, they ran up to me, of course, i cried, my youngest ran up to me, mom, when you pick us up, we want to go home, and the eldest daughter, when she saw me, asked one question, will you bring me the phone, never

go home, no why are we here, when you bring me the phone, tell me , well, the children’s request, have you... have you ended your relationship with victor? well, we didn’t end our relationship, but as long as we’re together, you’re still with victor, still yes, but when mom chooses someone who’s completely new, it’s absolutely not normal, it makes the children feel betrayal, especially since it is unknown whether the children’s accusation is groundless or not, but perhaps evgenia doesn’t want to see it, doesn’t want to believe it. the fact is that in such situations we are in a hurry to take an accusatory position towards the mother, but we must not forget that in reality 10 years is already the threshold of at least such a transitional age when children want to somehow influence the situation, and little moreover, they are jealous of their own mothers and those people

who, so to speak, suddenly appeared in their family, the girl can already compare life before him and after him, and if he... joined the educational process and influences him, then of course the girl wants, maybe this or that freedom of the same telephone and so on, but of course it is necessary to take into account the psychology of the child to find that very golden a middle ground that is very difficult to find. there is no point in rushing to blame my mother, but i will blame my mother, you yourself just said, you didn’t deprive me, you didn’t limit me, you didn’t do anything, my children are here.

communicated, then, when he died, the boy’s father, victor, came to support me, at the funeral he supported me, he died before the birth of his son, yes, he died before the birth of his son, i was pregnant, he passed away, what happened, he was sick, his liver failed, that is, victor became the very strong shoulder on which you could lean on in that difficult moment, yes, we just talked. then they stopped communicating, i got along with a young man, lived with him for almost 2 years, arseny was 2 months old, already with another young man, not with victor, no, no, we had purely friendly relations, when you realized that you were more than friends only

after you broke up with that, well , that young man, and he, well, he appeared in my life, how did he accept your children? victor, victor practically knows arseny from birth, he looked after him when arsyushka was little, and he could change the diaper, that’s it himself.

well, it turned out that i got pregnant and separated, broke up, that’s all, but is he registered as the official father? no, i’m a loner, and you know, there’s no point in me signing up a person who ’s not even interested in you, my daughter will never she asked about who her father was, i told her that he worked as a polar explorer, they had not known each other for almost 10 years, you hoped that with victor you would finally find a real family, well, there was one. hope, yes, as if, well , i was counting on the fact that everything would work out, he was sure that your daughter

treated him well, in the studio victor glukhodedov, hello, victor, evgenia said that you helped her a lot and a lot of her supported, why then the children didn’t accept you, i can’t know, so...

doesn’t perceive a man as an authority, on in my opinion, raise him, plant something of his own from the street, the girl has her own dad , there is some strange uncle here who decided to teach her wisdom, well, to be honest, i kind of have a very big question, does he even have whether this is a moral right, including in relation to the child or not, i never in my life allowed a young man to live in my apartment with my child, until... until i had a serious relationship, so this girl, she

seems to me to be very young, but look, she’s already she told me that the first connection was a child, the second connection was a child, the third connection, the husband died , there was a connection right away, then after 2 years it was creeping up, again a connection, god, so the children, of course, don’t understand where they are, in the family or in a brothel, it’s not beautiful from a girl’s point of view. especially, and then young mother, hear me, your daughter, you will regret this 10 times, she will bring it to you. tatyana, for children, punishment from a stranger, essentially an uncle, is more painful than, say, from a mother; a child accepts any punishment painful, but of course, here, before punishing, you really need to become an authority for children, that is, do not buy their love, do not win them with gifts, chocolates. after all, try to make friends with the children as much as possible in order

to take any measures of influence, the girl does not have , after all, initially the model of upbringing in the family, when there is the influence of the mother and the influence of the father, so, of course, she is in this she’s not used to it and perceives it as aggression, which resists as best she can, but maybe she ’s already doing this for some reason manipulatively, that is, mom either... you will do as i say, or it will be bad for you, but still, if we follow the child’s lead, we will consolidate such an influence on the mother, then...

the children, and the mother it’s silent, it’s sad when a child, a girl runs away from home because of someone else’s guy, it’s probably not the first time he hit her, but ask the neighbors what kind of mother she is, at the age of one and a half they sat on the road alone and walked alone at night, freak, pull out his hands, if the children are against the new dad, then mom should think 10 times who is more dear to her, children or man, since the signal is already quite serious, for some reason many people write that they are raising their hand? and says: interview the neighbors , for a year and a half there was something near the road , something is wrong, you know, and more than one person writes that they are giving up, that is, if one wrote, but this is a personal subjective opinion when talking about it written by an indefinite circle of people, the question should already arise: is there really no violence in the family? evgeniya, tell me, did your children run away from home before? it started for her after i sent her to the camp, it was in the past year, i sent her to the camp, i worked myself,

at first she liked it there too, everything was fine, and at the end of the shift. a week before the end of her shift, she started calling me and saying: mom, take me away from here, i don’t want to be here anymore, i don’t like it here, i say what happened , the girls here started to offend me, i say, for some reason no reason, it means no, they just wanted it, i took her from there, about 2 weeks after the camp she ran away from my house for the first time, maybe she was scared that i was her i will punish her for meddling with the documents , but i... for this, she ran away, slammed the door, disappeared, i ran around looking for her, they found her, they brought her, the second time 2 weeks later there was no sign of trouble at all , that is, we were walking, we had plans for the evening, i went to pick up my son at kindergarten, and i sent her home, there to

the house, we left the store, it works out nearby, i come with my son from kindergarten, and she’s not at home... but where did you find her? on the street, you found it yourself or contacted the police, contacted the police, so we kind of they already know us, that my little girl is running, that is, you were already on the pencil of the vopeika organ, yes, yes, they call her a runner there, but what did the girl answer to you, why did she run away, she doesn’t talk to me, i ’m trying to talk to her constantly talk, she closes herself all the time, makes the face that you want from me, and turns away. again , a child can consolidate such a destructive model of behavior, if i run away and thereby draw attention to herself, if in this way, by drawing attention to herself, each time she achieves one or another victory, then she will run in any case , of course, i personally didn’t run far, i was

older, i went, so to speak, to the attic in order to be... returned in order to, so to speak, convert myself attention and achieve certain dividends , but i really wanted to be returned, it is likely that the same thing is happening to the girl , pay attention to me, return me, but at the same time i must get what i want to get, what kind of mother is evgenia, according to in the opinion of her neighbors, i shrank all over, i’m away from her like this i’m standing aside, probably afraid that she’s hers. no, listen, well, how is it, why victor’s sister thinks that the note left was not the work of a child, i want this note to be sent for examination, we will continue in a couple of minutes, but what about hemorrhoids? haven’t you heard? chegawa escaped, they were taking him from the court , knocked out the guards, opened the cage, pulled him into the forest, i know

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she’s an extraordinary girl, she could set fire to toys, and not only toys, we had a lot of scissored paper, i

’m still surprised how we haven’t sunburned yet. this is not the first signal, it doesn’t all start that easy, if you don’t initially pay attention to the child, of course, she tries with all her appearance to attract his attention, this is the most optimal way out, the most ideal answer, she doesn’t want to be with me, so what? you did it so that she wanted it, you went somewhere with her, you talked to her, you they solved this case in not a single minute, and instead you just talk about how, yes, she has such extraordinary behavior , she’s so a little strange, that you think maybe it’s jealousy of victor, by the way, which is what she wrote about in the note , i think that this is of course jealousy, but then victor turns out that there is no status, he is not a father, and his mother is building her own life, first she invited him with one man, then with another, the model is already incorrect from the very beginning, the model breaks psyche, especially in a girl now there will be puberty, in principle, of course , if they live together, then he should

come then in the status of a husband, that is, ... to say that she doesn’t, doesn’t care about her children, the children are on the street from morning to evening, i and you , when you go to eat, they came running to me to drink water, they didn’t come home, i said, why don’t you come home, but because mom doesn’t allow us to go back and forth, the child is crying all over the street looking for his sister, mom do you think i left, my mother had zero

emotions, i worked for a week, you didn’t work then, i worked for six, i worked for 6 days per week, you yourself not so long ago said that you have an older daughter, she is extraordinary, she can set something on fire, and so on and so forth, so you left a young child and an older, older one, but you didn’t worry about the fact that a fire might happen, or something, the children will need some kind of help, therefore , anything, yes, anything can happen, this is an irresponsible attitude, you can accommodate your minor children, but under no circumstances leave them at home alone . "tell me, where was that time moment victor, when the children didn’t see white, where was he at that moment? victor, why did your beloved have to go to work and leave their children behind? why couldn’t you take care of your family ? i also worked six days a week, so i ’m wondering where you work six times a week, i worked at the post office as a postman. one

a week? victor, what about you? finishing settings? nikita, really, what? to do with working parents who have no one to leave their children with. there are kindergartens, there is a whole one, there is a huge complex. in the end, you can always come to the same daycare center where you know, you’ve already got the address to say: “listen, help me, i have to go to work, here’s where i can leave the children, they’ll tell you where you can leave them, you but you don’t do this, you leave small children at home, well, we are alone after that. of course, organizational issues are needed about what should happen with the children, when we are working, it is possible to leave the children for a while to go to the store or for some other errands, if this is a regular basis and i agree, if the girl already had precedents, then of course

organization is important here, but it’s easy... the fairy tale takes its toll, it’s hard the job is being done, it’s not always easy to get children into the same camp, the same kindergarten, so, of course, mom needs help, scolding her for working is under no circumstances, svetana, have you ever seen that victor and evgenia beat children, i cannot say about him, but in this the child has been out of school for a year, her mother is meeting her, where have you been? the child shrank and walked away from her like that, probably afraid that she would hit her, she walked in that child’s voice like that, like that, i was in shock, and the children never complained to you about evgeniy, you know, you will i’ll come three times, if i pass like this, she’ll come three times, hello, and boy, he’s coming, i’m coming because i’ve been treating him all the time, he’ll meet me,

hug me like that... he’ll show me through the house to the door, although he speaks poorly, but why? because mom, what did she do, did she work with the children, no, i think she was good. mothers, children will not run away. now the children are in a rehabilitation center, do you think they can be returned home now? i am against children being deprived of their mother , i feel sorry for the children, because in these orphanages there is not very good quality in these orphanages, but there are boarding schools, you can place a child in a boarding school, on weekends, saturday, sunday, you can she will come. that children will be better off there than with their mother? i i think, yes, boarding school, i myself grew up in a boarding school, they taught me everything, and children like evgenia, unkempt, dirty, unkempt, that’s how children run around in villages, in such a

state, beggars. tatyana, can you tell from this photo that the children are abandoned? no, from the photograph, no, i think no one will say that they are abandoned, they are well dressed, they smile with their eyes. alexander, what is your opinion? why do you blame evgenia if the note says that the children do not want to live with your brother? well i think she's not good mom, children need affection, love, children, that is, they are left to themselves, she

can lock them up and leave the house. regarding the note, i want to say that i don’t think it was a child, it wasn’t a child who wrote it, who wants this note to be sent for examination, i think it’s zhenya. something or persuaded the children to write like that, because they don’t call him uncle vitya, they call him papa vitya, why could she slander him, if she loves him , so as not to take responsibility for herself, so that he remains to blame, but how your brother, nadiya treated evgenia’s children? he treated his children very well, but could your brother beat children? no, he couldn’t, he probably could have hit evgenia anyway, because she ’s walking, but there are 100% no children.

it’s been about 7-8 years since she moved into our house, like a mother, she’s not bad, how can we feed the kids, well, we have all the clothes, but what can you say about victor, christina? i can’t characterize him in any bad way, honestly, in principle he treated children quite well, worked with children, there were even moments when evgeniy had men before him, who, well, they really weren’t interested in other people’s children, but victor he studied, he studied, he did his homework, he went for walks. he brought money, he even earned money, and there , well, he provided for it somehow, if possible, the sisters also helped the girl, so she left victor with children too, as if i had repeatedly asked victor, can i go there and sit there , he sat, as if, well, i didn’t see any

tyrannical actions like that from victor's side, tell us then about your friend's children, her kids are good, sasha, of course her little one, i can honestly say , likes to deceive. honestly, it was a moment, i once came to visit evgeniy, and with my child, i myself have three children, i am a mother of many children, and i can say that the child lied repeatedly, even leaving out what answer to some responsibility lies with my child, my eldest son, she broke the crib there, remember there was a moment, she broke the crib, and she blamed it on my son for the fact that it was my child who did it, but isn’t that the mother’s responsibility right? raise your child, no, i don’t argue, i agree, the parents are to blame, only if we are missing something somewhere, i suggest looking at the conditions in which the children lived, yellow stains on the ceiling, bare walls, clothes, toys in the same heap with the garbage, in this room in a communal apartment, evgenia

nesterova lived with her partner and children, the owner makes excuses, the renovation was destroyed by systematic floods, and the chaos here is only the last 5 days, since the son and daughter... walked from home, we came, everyone here was completely turned off closets, well, we thought that maybe they took things with them there, how warm they were, as it turned out, they just caused such a pogrom and took them. her children never went hungry , evgenia assures, on that ill-fated day she went home with thoughts of what to cook for her son and daughter, she wanted to cook soup, fry chicken with pasta, she cooked it, fried it, came, here it was on the crib where alexandra and arseny slept their clothes are still lying there, this is arsyushka’s shirt, hers... on

the shelves are the books of the eldest daughter and a family album, the covers and spines are frayed, next to a box of toys, only the torso remains of the doll, the dinosaur also lost its head, the daughter has a violent temper, her mother says. sasha will take out his aggression on toys and animals. maybe even have fun with her younger brother, the woman says , she tried to do everything in her power for the children, there is no heating in the apartment, she bought a heater so that her daughter and son would not wash in a rusty, dirty bathtub, she bought a small plastic one, they take turns bathing , of course, it’s like, well, so am i, because it’s scary to even step here, pots heat, pour, dilute. “together with her family,” says evgenia, she dreams

of moving to another home, but for now she has to put up with the fact that there are all ways to expel insects and rodents from the family nest. mice are running around our walls, in the walls, now it’s going to get cold, here they'll be running from the attics, we have spiders crawling in, cockroaches crawling in from the first floor , there's an abandoned apartment below us, i'm hounding them, hounding them, but nothing helps, oh, no, i can't imagine, but half the plot

was about that the little one did all this girl, this killed me more than the mess, immediately after the advertisement, the mother of the runaway children and her lovers will undergo a lie detector test, have you ever beaten evgeniy’s daughter, i believe that children cannot be returned to this family, children do not run away from a good family , did victor really raise the children of his partner by force, on ntv, an unpredictable show.

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nesterova, is crying, she wants to take her son and daughter home as soon as possible, but the guardianship authorities have set a condition for her: first she must get a job and tidy up the apartment, the conditions in which i now live are terrible, there is fungus, mold , spiders crawling out of the attics, i cleaned up in the morning, in the evening it’s as if i haven’t cleaned up, there’s a cockroach below, of course i understand that it is unrealistic for children to return to such conditions, i am going to rent an apartment, i will rent. because it’s unrealistic to live here, the general situation there is such that something like this can’t be organized on a refrigerator on a stove in 5 days, and it’s also antisaniye in which children live.

here the question is generally for the subjects of the system prevention, if they initially knew before this incident that the children were already in this family, why didn’t they seize them and take them away from these unsanitary conditions, the children should have been removed even earlier, hope, what do you think? well, i think of course.

everything in my room is clean, well, we saw everything lying around, this is the children’s room, the children play there, so especially the children’s room should be perfectly cleaned, we cleaned it, but the devil knows that evgenia, by the way, who this room belongs, who is its owner, essentially my mother, she the owner, and we are registered, and you have your own place, you have it, why don’t you bring it there? my mother is disabled there and my sister is looking after her, but you said what?

debts are spent on clothes and food, and what debts do you have? not my debts, his debts for sasha. evgenia, your daughter took money from someone without your knowledge. they asked why she did it? i asked, she didn’t answer. what did she spend this money on? why is she playing? with a classmate, the last time with a classmate they typed all sorts of, well, wait, i don't understand. a child is 10 years old, the child is escorted to school, greeted from school, what does it mean, you explain to me what it means she spends, she goes on her own, but it’s impossible for a 10-year-old child to go alone, it’s impossible for a 10-year-old child to sit at home alone, because it is illegal, it is not normal for a ten-year-old child to be alone on the street, evgeniya, and the guardianship authorities have set some conditions for you under which they will return the children to you, no guardianship? the investigation told me that they will be returned when i get a job and change them conditions, i have already found an apartment

, rented, two-room, i go to work on monday, as if all i have to do is support this, and you are afraid that your children may not be returned to you, i am very, i am very afraid, that i can’t return them, she’s ready to become the guardian of the runaway children herself, have you seen another sister, victor, in the studio? i saw that the girl is very beautiful, the boy is kind, it seems to me that they lack the love and affection of their mother, and

from whom did you learn about the children’s escape from home? i found out from victor, i called my brother, he said that he is in the police department, i asked what happened, he said that the children ran away, well, evgenia told us that the children at the police said that victor allegedly beat them, i don’t believe it, maybe evgeniy, he could have hit, he won't hit children. did evgenia beat children? i haven’t seen it, but i think maybe, but she is a mother, she should have been raised, well , not violently, but some kind of upbringing, somewhere you can say about evgenia as a mother? well, i can’t say anything good, well, the children don’t have enough mothers, they don’t have enough. but as do you think you can cope with two strangers ? i think i can handle it, well, i’ll take them for a while until they improve, this one. the girl’s energy needs to be directed in the right direction, given to clubs somewhere, the child needs to be occupied with something. olga, viktoraya’s sister

really has a chance to take custody of other people’s children, but if it’s limited. or the mother will be deprived of parental rights, there is an opportunity to take them under guardianship, but the question is different, that for a while you will understand that a child, no matter what age he is, is a living person, for a while, this is not a cat for you or a dog, they get used to a certain way of life, to a certain situation, now you are from one society, we will now take them to another, they will live there and get used to them, then we will return them back, this is not taking a kitten, but what do you think? evgeniy has a chance to get his son and daughter back, there are big questions about whether the children will be given back, because obviously in... the same living conditions, no one will give the children back, there will be a check, a various series of examinations will be carried out, which children may maybe they need treatment, this issue needs to be addressed, and it’s good that today you have the opportunity , that experts can help you and somehow resolve this issue, not hopelessly, maybe, but you just need to get together to say that enough is enough, that ’s enough, that’s what i wanted, i need to take care of myself first of all , anastasia, what

impression do you still have about these people, evgeniy and victor, could they offend children? to raise a hand against them, i think, yes, from what i heard here from that side, from this side, so yes, i fully admit this possibility. evgenia and victor volunteer agreed to take a lie detector test. that's how it was, let's see. viktor glukhodedov is the first to take a lie detector test. the man looks tense and answers questions without hesitation. have you ever yelled at eugenia's son? yes, have you ever yelled at your daughter?

emotionality, that is, if you empathize with the child, if you feel sorry for the child, you feel sorry for him with the corresponding emotions, pity, empathy, but if you feel sorry for him formally, he understands that this is vomiting on the part of the mother or victor, that is, it is necessary really sympathize with the child, what do you think? does evgenia really want her children back? she really wants to get her children back, but there was a very good assessment here: she doesn’t know how to do something, she wants to, but doesn’t know how, she will stall in the same place with positive intentions, but without moving forward. will evgenia be able to bring her daughter and son home? for this, i tell you seriously, they go to prison. i assure you, as soon as the program is released, all authorities

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on the same day, the children were discovered near their place of residence. currently, the children are removed from the family and placed in a social institution, since the early family was registered. currently, investigators continue to establish all the circumstances. the audit will be made a procedural decision. on social networks , a wave of negative comments hit evgenia and her partner, thirty-two-year-old viktor glukhodedov. i'm supposed to be a freak here i torment the children.

support, a flexible fund and so on, because the conditions in which you live are difficult, the second one will leave the supervisory office to help the family and provide a social function, the supervisory function will have questions for you, victor, because you said in the federal channel studio what do you mean you raise your hand against someone else’s minor child ?

volgograd region will already be at your home , yes, they will be from the position of the children, and not from your position, so i now understand why the children are in a state institution, yes, that means we are taking this situation under control, and your task is simple, if you don’t want to lose your children, you need to legalize the relationship, get a job , put things in order, listen, in the end , go, write a statement and return the children, don’t come to your senses, well, that means you’ll lose your children, now you have every chance for this . evgenia, are you ready to change your life for the sake of children , of course, of course, i miss them very much, i love them madly, both of them, i have no divisions into older and younger, i love them both very much, i miss them very much, i love you i’ll pick it up, i promise, remember that there are problems with you, you can always turn to our program for help, we will continue tomorrow, right now a new one. and tomorrow, in

the program beyond , a woman had to move because her mother turned their shared three-ruble apartment into a kingdom of rubbish. you know, here she has a room, a mountain of these things, there is old furniture, and what not there, she sleeps on this mountain under the ceiling. the pensioner herself does not intend to part with her things.