isolate the country, impose sanctions , forced to lengthen supply chains, logistics have become significantly more complicated, so of course, we see all this in the price, in the increased price of goods and services that we consume, which means the bar for funds that can be called savings, here it is it has also grown, it has grown sharply over these 10 years, 2 times - as for the fact that we stopped borrowing, well, we haven’t stopped, of course, well, we’re cutting back. acquaintance, neighbor, co-worker, wife, husband, yes, well, friend, comrade, but some time ago, well, as a close one, not some time ago it was normal , but today this actually happens more rarely, why, well, relationships are no longer... so - they are being built closely, and

in parallel there has appeared - a very developed, by the way, financial industry, there are microloans, well, in fact, banks , consumer lending banks have promoted it, it’s very profitable, and it’s useful for all parties, but for those to whom banks don’t give it, yes, there are microfinance organizations that also provide such services and earn money from this, although sometimes they go bankrupt, is it good or bad? well it a sign of the times, at least a sign of the times, let’s agree on this, what is happening with the environmental agenda, some time ago in russia there were strong skepticism about climate change, today this is no longer the case, today the absolute majority of russians feel climate change, it’s not always warming, sometimes it’s cooling, look how interesting february is in the central zone, most often it’s a shift, by the way.

industrial enterprises in a place where there used to be a grove or meadow, or good fishing, all these questions immediately arise in full force, and people are not afraid to ask them, they ask them in full voice. thank you very much for talking, thank you. hello, it’s a decade of science and technology in russia. the ntv television company and the state corporation rosatom present a program: we are science, science and us, a program about how science will change our lives in the next 10 years. i'm vladimir antokhin, and i'm ekaterina shugaeva. in 10 years, science will deduce. formula of love, i

was so looking forward to this program, volodya, finally i will understand what signs can be used to determine a person loves me, or so , well, just for you, i invited optimists who believe that in 10 years science will really come up with a formula for love, this is pavel bolchkov, molecular biologist, geneticist, good evening, and dmitry fomichov, an expert on mathematical modeling , hello, hello, i also hope that science will still come up with a formula for love, but although according to tradition... i have skeptics visiting me, this is irina evgenievna kolobikhina, economist-demographer, good evening, and natalya lvolovna klitschko, biochemist. good evening, in at the end of the program, our guests, optimists, will make a prediction about how likely it is that in 10 years science will derive the formula for love? and our expert, professor kapustin, discusses how love arose. love evolved from sex, and sex in turn was one of the first inventions of living beings.

capable of mating while the cub is being suckled, in order to gain access to the female, the male had to kill the cub. thus, to prevent infanticide , monogamous opposite-sex couples arose. stable couples had improved chances of survival. males began to take on part of the parental responsibilities. this became a new relationship. this is not love yet, but something similar. in addition, for the emergence of romantic love , parts of the brain are needed that were formed in primates, well, relatively recently, only 50 million years ago. you heard, most importantly, in stable couples

the chances of survival increase. this is just about stable couples, and you remember your first love, in kindergarten andrey, his name was, that’s his last name. just 200-300 years ago, before that

century, that is, it was relatively recently that they said there, i feel sorry for you, you are so loving and so on, but people still understood when some kind of sympathy for a person arises, some kind of interest. but i don’t know, butterflies in their stomachs begin to fly, it ’s as if on a subconscious level, at the level of feelings, well, they understand that something is happening wrong, unconventionally, and it’s all positive in the right direction, so love has always been there, it it was just called differently, these are real optimists, everything you feel during love is all positive, right, natalya lvovna, when did love arise, now as a scientific concept, how did scientists explain what it is?

level of excitement or some other molecules like norepinephrine, there is the impression that you can achieve any goal at all, and of course the important elements there are testosterone and oxytocin, which is still such a feeling of attachment, yes well, it seems to me that from this point of view. started to look, well not so long ago, yes, that’s when they already began to understand these elements that are included in the brain in the cocktail of love, yes, although this is actually the elixir of love, but like the philosopher’s

stone, many, many years ago they also tried to construct , create, and , accordingly, there are a lot of statements. socrates' love is, well, like the acquisition of something, yes, here is the second statement, it is different, i would say, this is aristotle, love according to aristotle means desiring

a good and actually delivering it to the object. well, your love, and here we come to what they generally say: love, sometimes, quite often, requires sacrifice. thank you very much, let's take a break for a moment, advertising on ntv. we are politicians, we... must win the hearts of people, well, like the stars, you are a mission, misha, this is your destiny, it’s time to tear down the berlin wall, berlin is now in turmoil, it’s a good time to fish in troubled waters, these are your protectors provoked that all this rubbish came out onto the street, the first will be the last, the last will be the first, your hotel is swarming with spies, it looks like they are also hunting for the archive,

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margarita? vova misled the shores. what does he know about his old friend pugacheva? i'm starting to say, 10 years, in 10 years science will come up with formulas love, we will find out, because at the end of the program our guests, optimists and skeptics , will make a forecast: with what probability in 10 years will science really derive the formula of love, about the chemistry of love, our expert , professor kapustin, discusses. i, as a chemist, really don’t like the use of the word chemistry to describe emerging amorous relationships, although

exactly what we call love is chemical. reactions in our head. well, how do you know: is it love or just out for a walk? it’s very simple: measure your concentration finylamine. if the concentration is high - excitement, sympathy, sexuality. phenylithylamide is produced at the moment of love, and after the bouquet-candy period, its concentration drops to zero, but eating a chocolate bar restores the required level. fethylamine level. endorphins, called molecules of long-term love relationships, are responsible for the development of falling in love. in this way, endorphins are very similar to apiates. endorphins relieve pain, cause euphoria, and improve memory. the hormone oxytocin, also known as the hug hormone, is

causes a feeling of satisfaction and calm, although its main function is obstetrics. oxytocin creates a feeling of loyalty. by the way, in women, the concentration of oxytocin correlates with the frequency of orgasms. and, of course, absolutely everything you know about the magical properties of dehydromethyl, oxopropyl, pyrozole, or simply viagra. listen, look, here is our beautiful kapustin, natalya lvovna, they say, phenylamine, neurons, oxytocin, chocolate, no, they are talking about what. all love is in the head, but what about the heart, what about the soul, i always i thought that love was here, just to deal with this. pavel yuryevich, science today generally studies love and how does it explain what it is? well, indirectly, of course, no one, at least of those i know , is directly involved in the object of love, but in one process or another,

it seems to me, almost everyone is involved, either in their own form. either at home or professionally, yes, well, in fact, if you answer the last question about the heart, that’s where , well, the main sources of love have not been discovered, but after all, we are forced first of all to concentrate on higher nervous activity, and this is mainly our central nervous system, the brain, and here are a number of glands, glands that... are located in the brain, actually integrated there, and glands distributed throughout the rest of our body, in particular , these are the adrenal glands and others, and which participate in such a complex, in fact, neuroendocrine interaction, this is such a huge orchestra, which is responsible not only for love, in general for all of our life activity, this is such a

global regulation is how we are, how we behave, how we grow, how we shape. how we protect ourselves from viruses, in general, is partly why we age , in fact, here, but this is apparently a separate topic of your program, but nevertheless, returning to love, and love, in fact, i have to agree in many ways, but not in everything, with your main expert, it’s, in general, not so much even chemistry, it’s so much like this, i always like that your main expert always comes in with that...

state, or they are completely expelled from from this herd, tribe and so on, but the nuance with people is that the main

aspect of monogamy was actually touched upon, that we actually transformed our society in such a way that we introduced this kind of possibility for the coexistence of males in the same group, that is, you and i, actually. and let’s just say, we declare, we declare, this does not mean that it really is so, but monogamy is public, but publicly, we don’t trample on my delways, everyone is just trampled now, let us not declare to you for real, that’s how it is , here, here, here all the nuances begin, yes, here, here, it is necessary, i, unfortunately, have to say this word, but there is work, there is love and there is also hypocrisy, it’s just a separate topic for...

at the moment i don’t know, depending on where we actually evolve, but returning, strictly speaking, to the very public monogamy that is declared, is not always fulfilled,

this allowed all men together, without dividing women in general, let's say, without fighting out of nowhere, they were able to go hunting together, then together they were able to organize themselves, herd sheep, plow the land, and so on and so forth. honestly, love actually allowed men and women to survive , and so it would be normal, love made humanity, let’s let’s be amazing, yes love made humanity and there is no science that would study love, that’s what ’s surprising to me, biology, just why they study , well, about monogamy, psychology, sociology, in fact, everyone studies love just from different sides, but i studied biology on these voles, and on voles.

and with the benefits of acquiring love as a commodity, if we measure everything in money, the apostle paul said, love does not compare, we do not compare in this market, wait,

wait, because i am now. we choose each other often by similarity in terms of education, age, social status, sometimes by difference, in order to divide roles in marriage , specialization, some in the labor market, some at home, but in general, more and more often by similarity, and we get, when we live in a partnership, in marriage, a certain family capital that can only be obtained by being there. in this state of a common family, family is good, as we understand, yes, and we go on a campaign for this family capital and - consciously get married, this is one of the types of human relations, one of the types of human relations, another way , as people, economic people measure love - this is by the volume of transfers to each other, time money, that is, you to me, i to you, yes, yes, we can

transfer a lot of care. to one of the family members, it is measured in minutes, this too, these are also means, resources , it is measured, perhaps by some direct financial transfers, and , of course, economists have difficulty in explaining why one person in a family works and gives away his earned money to many, such a concept of an altruist has been formed, but in the end, in exchange, he receives services that he can only receive within these family relationships , or else...

the woman gets younger, looks prettier, and so on, yes, it also has a very strong effect on mental health, these are the same ones neuropeptides, yes, so, in principle, this also affects a man, a woman for the better, we understand that it also affects a man, life expectancy, life expectancy, well, there are also experiments, it seems that some laboratories claim that they have studied this. .. love affects life expectancy, but here i have a little skepticism about control and what general considerations they have at least well for 5 years, but there are no specifics, i think that measuring this, although i’m an optimist, yes, but i think what to measure so well, fully impossible because there are too many auxiliaries, you want to say that if

i want to get to know a person. some kind of status, yes, and we can now talk about marriage and non-marriage of men and women , what we see, what the numbers show us, for men, these 5 years, 3, 5 years that you are talking about, for men matter, for women they do not, that is, for men , marriage adds years of life,

for women it does not, for women it does not, women, apparently, men depend on these services that women in marriage provide and prolong his life, and women cope on their own, well, there is a trick here too.

we don’t separate, yes, we have a boy and a girl, look, one of them didn’t like the lamp, women always don’t like something, yes, the man trampled on it. this is love, is there some kind of predisposition to love in people, in men, women, young, old, fidelity, this is to the death of life, well, well, there really is everything, all options, and, as it were, a huge biological diversity of our manifestations, that is, it is genetically predisposed, certainly, and, but in fact it is more and more, since this is precisely our activity, and... higher nervous activity, then there is , strictly speaking, a significant share, namely, and the educational share, that is, how a person was formed, in what foundations what he saw, what examples, what behavioral examples he developed, what

he should do, what he should not do, and this is certainly reflected in his attitude towards the opposite sex. pavel iurovich, what is happening now, as my grandmother told me, you want to choose a normal husband, first look at his normal father and... they matter, that is, a grandmother can childhood examples, even an example of a grandmother, say one thing, but do something completely different, that is, therefore, here are your visual ones , strictly speaking, accompanying you with the verbal context behavioral examples of the mother , dads, aunts, neighbors, again , this is all in your context, you seem to read this whole picture as a single one, do some, especially in...

the concept of the development of events, and in fact you will be forced to maneuver, change in general, your behavior scheme is to be a hypocrite, as you said, but that’s the beauty of us as a species, most existing species are distinguished by the fact that they are very flexible in their behavioral tendencies, especially man, man is very fast, he is intelligent, but i sometimes call him man flexible, adaptable person. he is really a person as a species, maybe some individuals among us do not adapt very well, but in general we as humanity, as a species adapt quite quickly to any changing realities, and if you just look at it, how our foundations have transformed, and how ours

have transformed, our actual attitude towards the opposite sex, what we call love, literally over the last 50-100 years, this is really dramatic . and how this transformed our society as a result of this, how we, in fact, if something was unacceptable before, now, in general, it is quite normal, this is our social norm. i won’t go into specific examples, but nevertheless, we are generally ready and able adapt to quite radical changes, this is one of the challenges that, in fact, the russian federation in particular now faces, because we, unfortunately, unfortunately, have a very low demographic, low demographic indicators, but they certainly affect the economy, because in general our economy is tuned to the same curves

, in fact, and there are many forms, well, in particular, there are pension forms of interaction in the country, and other economic indicators, they are tuned to certain ones there - demographic indicators, nevertheless, we, unfortunately, fall into such trends in developed countries, where low birth rates are, unfortunately, a fact, and that is why we decided to film this program. if we derive the formula of love, maybe it will help us increase the birth rate, well, these are questions for the future, we will return to this later, but after advertising, advertising on ntv, in the fifth anniversary season of the mask show, on your birthday, there will be many surprises for the audience, we it wouldn’t be us if we hadn’t come up with a special anniversary feature for jury, we're getting better in season five.

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russia, traditional, modern, technological, original, open, great, so different, but dear to everyone, all russia is before your eyes, come to the international exhibition russia forum, the program is on air, science and us, a program about how science will change our lives in the next 10 years, in 10 years. “science will develop a formula for love, and i hope that this will change not only our lives, but will change the demographic situation in the country, what breakthroughs in the study of love, after all, science expects in the next 10 years, economic science, economic-demographic science, approximately once every 40 years

, harry becker makes a breakthrough in the study of love, somewhere in the early eighties receives the nobel prize for creating a model in which love is a commodity, children are a commodity, and even the envy of neighbors is a commodity, that’s everything i told you about, specific capital in marriage, all that stuff, for these ideas he receives the nobel prize for being able to measure love using the methods of economic science. 40 years later, that is , last year, in the twenty-third , claudia golden received the nobel prize, who told how you can love... work at the same time, how women were able to combine this story, stop focusing only on the house, but still understand that family is not the least important thing in life, this is the main thing, just like work, let's weigh it, so to speak, on the balance of time, yes, and i also got it for this is the nobel prize, we

do this every day, and she received the prize for this, she received the prize for this, this is what it is , of course, i’m pointing out, of course, but that’s roughly what we’re talking about. so i don’t know about 10 years, but within 40 years, as practice shows, perhaps something else will appear, i it seems that we will find something interesting in the study of love between separated generations, grandparents, grandchildren, granddaughters, why, as a person lives longer and longer, then this is a close transmission of inheritance. relationships, experience, experience, it even becomes not between parents and children, but between grandparents and children, and maybe the next breakthrough in science in this sense in the study of love will be associated with such interesting leaps through generations, but they say that in fact, you love your grandchildren

more than your children, that’s interesting, we’ll take it, again , there will be some shadow who will explain what we are doing and just get a nobel prize for this, i don’t know, maybe it started and the scientists there roughly derived a formula for the probability that you will fall in love at what moment i can show you some time and what please.

those who lived up to 80 years old had a 90% probability of experiencing love, falling in love, respectively, they are the first such

mathematical coefficient, which led to this being 90%, the probability that a person will experience falling in love throughout his entire life, the second was a more difficult moment, these are younger people, approximately 14-16 years old, how likely are they to experience that love that... will lead there to a family, to such maximum love and so on, the percentage turned out to be small, it was in the region of 2-3%, that is, the first love, the first love in kindergarten, but we don’t always remember the names, yes, and then we generally forget, so this led to the fact that a couple more appeared in the formula mathematical coefficients, well, that’s about them, let's let us count the main thing about volodya, and let's count about volodya, this is...

years, this is the moment when we graduate from university, go to work, accordingly, this is the period of time when we, well, on the one hand such social connections are as possible as possible, because we communicate with the widest possible circle of people , and health, hormones, everything, health, hormones, on the other hand, we develop, well, on the one hand, detachment from our parents, we begin such an independent life, on the other hand we have this society expands as much as possible, and from here a couple more coefficients appeared, and which, well, approximately in this way we add up the formula itself, t is time, 16 is the time that the child was, this formula is the same for all people

, does not carry any personal character, no, this is a form that is, as it were, universal for everyone, as if if you draw it visually, it is approximately in this form you can depict it, that is, this is time, well, the number of years, yes here we were born, and this is the percentage, this is the probability that we are on this moment we fall in love, and this falling in love will develop into true love, which ... will last a lifetime, that is, this is a low, this is the lowest threshold, when we have, well, the probability is about zero, let’s say, it’s about 7, 10 years, uh-huh, yes, and then it begins to grow little by little, this rapid growth, this maximum, when we get it, it’s about 20, there 20, 24 years, yes, and then it grows to about 35-40 years, well, depending again on the environment, yes, in which a person lives and... then it reaches the level with some kind of decline, that is, well, here it is about 80 years, that is, the probability of up to 80 also remains, yes, but here different factors influence,

that is, young people influence more by such impulsive, more sensual, emotional, here by calculation, economic calculation, the only , that my only question is that we measured the probability of falling in love, and the power of love, maybe it is much stronger here than here, no one studies the power of love that arose? this question can, in fact, also, in short, be revealed from this formula, and here, when the strongest love, the strongest love is precisely in this period of time, when the maximum growth is conditionally of this probability graph, thank you very much, that’s all, volodya, everything is clear with mathematicians, okay, yes pavel yuryevich, that’s if to geneticists, maybe in the next 10 years we will discover some genes that are responsible for love, we can add them there, subtract them, of course, we will discover something else, but the main genes have actually already been discovered, characterized here

rather, it is interaction, that is, how is it? everything that is there, again, not all connections appear in the cerebral cortex, the activity of certain centers, the question is, when , in fact, your husband comes to you, and you want to find out, find out everything, whether he still has feelings for you some other love, firstly, we were told that we can measure it chemically somehow, yes, again, we can still

, maybe i’ll measure it, but maybe it’s not for me, here. there is a very advanced, advanced version of the polygraph, actually called speaking, mri of the brain is like looking into the eyes, well, and seeing which zones of the cerebral cortex are activated at the sight of certain images, and this is a fairly accurate thing, well, not everyone has it at home, my husband came home, instead of him borscht polygraph, we will look at areas of the brain, on this cheerful note we...

economics, demography, and this is how it really is, love is closely intertwined in all this, that is, we must always answer, why, why do we need it, this is love and we are very let’s just answer so that we really multiply, this is the thesis that i voiced at the very beginning, so that we can be together.

with mathematics, together with artificial intelligence, we are trying to somehow put it all together, all these signal paths, chains and so on, plus various... natalya lbovna, do you have a forecast of how likely it is that science will figure out the formula for love in 10 years , i agree that we already know a lot, that we already have many different approaches that could help in all

this, derivation of the formula, but in fact, but this as with the atom, it was once believed that the atom was finite, indivisible, now in fact the atom is inexhaustible, more and more new ones appear. well, here it’s about the same thing that prevents us from using its energy, it doesn’t interfere , it’s the same here, we also use a lot of things, we know which processes are responsible for what, where it’s better for us to eat that same chocolate bar, but we already understand , that we will somehow have more fun, yes, but in reality, of course, love is important, love in general, they still say, love will save the world, yes, it is that’s true, but it seems to me that for now we still can’t... take into account all the processes, yes, the brain is too complex, we don’t know a lot, we don’t know which one, which of the processes, where they will lead, what they will influence , this is difficult

to collect, so it seems to me, although we are certainly moving in this direction, well, i would say no more than 20%, well, let's 20, 20%, thank you very much, today. practically did not touch upon the topic of artificial intelligence, and the analysis of big data, that is, here you can just like love as a source to consider big data, but again this includes demography, economics, medicine , the general development of the state, interaction and so on, i think that well, i kind of understand that these artificial intelligence technologies are quite well developed and give good, positive, correct answers , and if we collect all... these attributes of love , we build this mathematical model, then we have this formula, or there are criteria or there are conditions in which we need to put a person or two people, these conditions

comply, then there will definitely be love, so i think that with 100% we will create such a formula or precisely create these conditions and we will understand unequivocally, 100%, thank you very much. volodya, with a 55% probability, science will still derive the formula for love, that is, this is more than half. i will actually explain, even to the audience, why we needed this so much, not because we are, i don’t know, skeptics, because let’s count everything, because of this our demographics will increase, no, love, she adds happiness, of course, everything really comes from love, and you want to be loved everything, and for those who, well, for some it doesn’t work out, for some it didn’t work out, and if there is a certain formula, we will give everyone this happiness. love, it will be possible to infect everyone, and this will be good for the whole world, at least we will give all the girls a chance to try on this wonderful photo, not bad, by the way,