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mowgli's three children were found naked and dirty in the basement of a house in st. petersburg among garbage in complete unsanitary conditions.
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hello anastasia, how did it happen that you weren’t with your children that day? i was in another city, i went there with my children, they came here without me, because their biological father wanted to live with them for a week, like a dad with his sons, and of course, i let them go, which city are you in? moved from st. petersburg, from st. petersburg. moved to the city of samara with the children six months ago, when the children were taken away by their father? their father took them a month ago, well, about a week, about a plus. the children themselves wanted to go visit, of course, of course, it was, that is, for me it was an important decision that the children wanted it, the eldest son, the middle one, of course, and since i think that it’s impossible to please the children, that’s all three brothers, all growing up together since childhood, of course, it was decided that he would take all the children, how old are the children, 6 years old, 4 years old. and youngest 2
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one year old, and the children’s father, is this your official husband? no, we were never married, when we had our first son, we no longer lived as husband and wife, we were not in a relationship, we broke up, then moved in together again, but you entrusted your father with the safety of the children, of course , i had no reason not to trust him, this is my own father, he cannot harm his children in any way, i saw how he communicates with them, he lived with us and came to us periodically, i was never against it, and you found out from... ex-lover, where exactly does he take them? no, i knew that he lives in st. petersburg, in a furnished room where you can really live, there is a restroom, yes, that is, a sofa, it’s just strange that you call this a room and not an apartment, did you think that he lives in an apartment, no, so in st. petersburg we have minus the first floor, often equipped for apartments, that is, it’s like, this is normal, the first floor, yes, of course, you weren’t worried about how the children would be without you, you were worried, i was in touch with them.
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this is the state where he lives, everything was fine, the way i remember this room, i was there six months ago, just when we arrived there for the first time, he and his son wanted to meet, everything was completely different there, there were no bags there, there was no dirt, that is, with a pure heart you sent your sons to father, kept in touch with them and there were no signs of trouble, no, i was in touch with them every day, i saw that they were healthy, dressed, clean, were you talking on the phone or? via video call on the phone via video call,
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the eldest son himself called me via video call while you were talking via video call in the background what they saw from behind, but various tools, there he has a shelf with books with... with computer equipment, neatly, dirt, rust, they didn’t see everything, all the pictures, of course, i didn’t see, i saw the child’s face, how well he he’s doing something, playing, well, behind the child, but you couldn’t help but see the background, that everything was clean and good there, i can’t say that everything was clean, there wasn’t a speck of dust, that’s firstly, well, there are walls so whitewashed, but like in a private house, in an old one, well, that is, nothing bothered you, well, no, no, of course, but the child looked happy, satisfied, and... this is exactly what didn’t make me think at all, to pick them up right away urgently, the child was happy, this is the first sign that everything is fine, i ask, of course, from myself, what i’m interested in whether you ate, did you walk, yes, but you didn’t ask to show the child where other children sleep, or
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where he sleeps, where he draws, i couldn’t even have such questions, because i had there are photographs where a child sleeps on a sofa on a clean bed there is a bed, there is a blanket there, in general, when you were just... looking for the children to visit their father, did you know what the conditions were in this room, as you call it, was there a shower, toilet, refrigerator, stove, of course, i knew , there is an electric stove, in the future he was even going to buy a washing machine, because he washed things by hand, and these are children, they constantly get them dirty, this is literally, that is , it takes a lot of time, we thought about where he is in the bathroom , did you know there are baths there, no, there are no baths, he washed in a basin, just like he washed children in a basin, he heated the water and we... in a basin, and you asked what he feeds the children? the children told me what they were eating for tomorrow, they ate mud porridge, for example, with milk, and they loved various sweets, such as livers, he even cooked soups for them, they even fried potatoes, he even taught the children how to do it all yourself, that is, in
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your words, you were convinced that all this time while the children were with their father, they were feeling good, satisfied, happy, he was coping with his upbringing, there was nothing suspicious, no, well, of course not, i had no reason not to trust, i saw them with my own eyes, talked with each child, everything was fine, they were calm, they did not scream, did not cry, i often saw them driving and running, having fun, playing, that is i didn’t see anything bad, but how did you find out about what happened, about what happened, he wrote to me on the evening of the eighth, on the ninth, that the children were being taken away, i immediately called him, i was shaking, what does it mean to take the children away?
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because there is no person with them who can prove their identity, since i am a mother one according to the documents, he is not the natural father according to the documents, and i was immediately taken for interrogation as to why i was absent and there i gave all the testimony, all the answers, on the basis of these answers a criminal case was opened, a criminal case was opened against you, and according to article 156, the fact that i could not cope with the responsibilities of caring for children, this article provides for... a term of imprisonment of up to 3 years for improper exercise of parental rights, according to the documents the father was not included, the children were generally with a stranger in essence , mothers there were no children nearby either minors, therefore there are no legal representatives nearby, who
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is caring for them, how this care is carried out, plus the very fact that the children are in the basement, but these conditions clearly do not correspond to the normal living of children. anastasia, by the way, why is the father of your children? was not included in the birth certificate, we were not married and he was with the first child, he did not want to be the father of this child, he did not want this child at all, he wanted this child, when he was born, he looked after him and lived with him with us for six months, his first life wanted to be a father, to be included in the birth certificate, he didn’t show any signs of it, i can’t force him either, he knew it perfectly well, that he could do it, but he didn’t do it, okay, with the first child it’s clear, with the second third, why not... the phone that was the first to arrive at the scene,
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just a police officer even showed me that he had taken a photograph, well, it’s terrible, we have this photograph. poor children like mowgli, i just have a question for you, when you went on a video call, what exactly from here you saw, they were sitting on the sofa, absolutely this picture was not there, it was not there. some of these computers standing there, things piled up, there was a clean sofa, there was a computer desk, clean, and, that is , the child was just sitting, for how long was there such chaos, i think, 2 days, just when he stopped communicating with me, the children are grimy, in 2 days, they are not cut, you can even see that they are all overgrown, the paint is oil paint, as i later found out, i still can’t understand, you know, i understand you as a mother, but i’m trying to you now, i also can’t understand this, i’m not saying that this is normal.
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well, let it be nearby, even for 2 days, this is the ceiling. anastasia, why are the children undressed? didn't they have any clothes? no, they had clothes, they were hot, they took off their clothes themselves, as he said, they weren’t always there, this is just a single photograph, there are a bunch of other photographs where they are clean, they are dressed and happy, i just don’t understand, and how hot it is, if this happened on april 9 in the basement, where the heat is there, there are pipes around the entire perimeter, they warm, hot, he also has a heater there.
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we see, is this psychological trauma for children? until the age of 7, a child has not developed critical thinking, that is, he sees a loving, say, dad who plays something with them, and the child thinks that this is the norm until the child begins to develop this critical thinking , and they start telling the child that something is wrong, if the child says: i want to go to my dad’s barn somewhere else, then the other adult parent... is responsible for creating safety for the child, physical, psychological and health, when
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a parent follows the needs of the child, you want a kilogram of candy, eat a kilogram of candy, you want to live in a barn, live in a barn, subsequently the child will begin to understand that this was not the norm, and this will be a variant of psychological trauma. anastasia, when you first saw this photo, what emotions did you experience, what thoughts did you have, to save them, it... for me it was a shock, i didn’t sleep, i didn’t eat, i couldn’t eat anything, you i just wanted to see the children so that they would just forget about everything, about this situation, provide them with the same life as she had with me, there was no such nightmare with me, i took care of the children, you didn’t ask questions, how could you allow your children, our children , to live in such conditions, but the truth is that he literally didn’t clean it up for a day or two, and small children can supposedly clean it all up in an hour. azisbek, i see you don’t believe in such excuses, of course not, any child
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who would be in such a room, well , let’s do it, it depresses both the body and the immune system, in general, in principle, it i was constantly in such a room, as my father tells us, let’s put it this way, this place is a basement, there may be, in addition to your children, dirt, and gorzunes, and the same fleas from animals, plus... unsanitary place, the immune system can give an inadequate reaction against the background of the fact that the child is there, and subsequently even get numerous complications, you see, the main one is even asthma. anaasiya, did they tell you in what condition the children were taken, what their health was? the children are healthy, the children did not starve, that is, the condition their health was good; they were just experiencing a runny nose. they had a cold, they had a cold, yes, as they said, but in the end they were discharged after 2 days, they had already been discharged, and i was already trying to get into this hospital to find out something. lilith, given these living conditions
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, the children were simply lucky that they did not get sick with something more serious than a cold? very lucky, then.
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i spoke with the employees, i saw them on video, on video, because i didn’t want to injure them, it will be hard for the children, they are already now they are undergoing adaptation, they are meeting other children there, that is, they are still experiencing some kind of psychological moment, and what emotions did you experience when you first saw the children after everything that happened, a great relief of happiness that they are in a safe place where they will be helped help from any side, they will be full.
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we met and were born in the same city, this is engel, saratov region, there we met him at work, fell in love, started a relationship and then, for 11 years , periodically parting, well, we were not housemates, is this normal, when you first met this man, your first child was born, were you living in angels? no, at that time we already lived in moscow, rented an apartment where we worked, in moscow, i worked, first as a private music teacher, and i was a piano teacher. beloved, who did you work for? he worked as a dj periodically and had also already started working on these computer parts, he was interested in it, it was his hobby. your first child was born in a rented apartment in moscow, but where did you register the child? a i couldn’t register the child anywhere, only temporarily, we registered him with his sister,
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where was the second child born? the second child was already born in st. petersburg. why did you decide to move there? because i... found my own father, who lives in st. petersburg, it was just a big shock, we decided to meet, and his wife, well, let's call her mom, and now she helped me make permanent registration, we could stay with them until they rented their own apartment separately in st. petersburg, where did you register the second child, with your father, with his wife, she is the owner of the apartment, and the third child was also born in st. petersburg, the same thing, also there, yes, that is, all three of your sons were registered in one place at that time were that and what does it mean at that moment now where now we have no registration anywhere, the apartment was sold, i could not contribute in any way to this moment, they left for another city, having sold the apartments, i should not have interfered in any way, that is, they simply wrote out you to nowhere, i i wrote them out myself, but to no avail. natalya, is it really possible to discharge children anywhere? unfortunately, yes, the law provides that when
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high-rise building with their father, and also with rats and cockroaches. anastasia, you said you moved to st. petersburg because you found your biological father, but where is your mother? my mother has been gone for a long time, she did not raise me, i also grew up under the care of my grandmother, my mother did not when i was 11 years old, in fact, in her life, she did not take any part in my life, you grew up under her care until you were 18 birth, until i was 12 years old under her care, then she was gone, i was assigned to children's... shelter in the city of engels, later my aunt, her daughter, was in fact the second daughter of my grandmother, took me into my care. as an orphan, did you receive any housing? when my aunt took me under guardianship, the apartment, as lawyers later explained to me, should have been sealed until i came of age, this did not happen, it was so, having taken me under guardianship, my aunt sells this apartment on the basis of permission from the guardianship and gives share in
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your own in the newly acquired share. that is, he makes some kind of exchange of area from the city to the village, but you have a share in her house there is? no, i don’t have a share in her house, we had conflicts, she simply kicked me out of the house before i came of age, guardianship didn’t take me to an orphanage, didn’t send me anywhere, i just lived on the street with my friends, i struggled with this myself , in the end, having achieved that by a court order she was ordered to return my housing to me, my aunt could not provide this at that time... she either didn’t have money or something, she said: i have 200,000, that’s all , what can i buy - this is a room, it was inconvenient, without baths, completely violated the rules of footage for orphans, but you have this room now, i don’t have this room, where did it go, i sold this room and went to moscow, and you invested this money that you received for the room somewhere, i went to moscow and lived for some time and then worked,
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rented a house, look, you have many children. the state allocated maternity capital to you as a measure of social support, which you could invest in real estate when selling maternity capital. do you have maternity capital and have you sold it? maternity capital is 500-odd thousand, i wouldn’t have enough for any housing, which in turn the pension fund recognizes as viable for the children, for the third child you don’t have maternity capital, because again i didn’t have a permanent registration in the territory st. petersburg. they refused to come to me, that is, you received maternity capital only for one child, for the second, yes, but you now have maternity capital, you didn’t use it? no, i periodically, when i had registration or temporary either permanent, i still did it in ways, or bought it, or found people who would at least do something for me, i received periodic payments from matkapital, all maternity capital was spent, no, no, no, there is a balance, how much 200 -3000, please explain about
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maternity capital, how anastasia should have received maternity capital, how she could have used it, well, here’s everything in detail, look, we have maternity capital as a measure of social support allocated at birth, but we have federal and regional and regional, the regional federal one is from the state of the russian federation, and the regional one is based on the location of this person, that mother, those parents who receive this maternity capital, and it is actually allocated by the budget of that subject. in this case, maternal capital, anastasia says that her balance, according to her memory, is about 1,300, well, we think that the first child is 300 thousand, there is 356, the second is around 450, at the moment - over 500 thousand rubles, plus various social support measures, this is an allowance at birth, but without she can receive registration, but we are talking about territorial affiliation, that is
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, if anastasia is now. is registered, she will have registration permanently, she can restore her rights to maternal capital, of course, of course, no one took this right away from her, these are inseparable stories, anastasia, tell us about your... chosen ones, he is also an orphan, amazing, here we are, probably against this background, somehow became close, met, and immediately began to communicate closely, he grew up with his sister in the city of moscow, he was under her care, and housing he had his own, i didn’t know about it, well , that is, he has it, then we lived together with children, in constantly rented apartments, constantly, and your income allowed you to do this, periodically, when i had registration, yes, that’s what i received it, we invested everything in the apartment. the children's father was earning something, in connection with this i simply began to sound the alarm, when i had every reason, to turn to government agencies for help, they helped me in the shortest possible time, and they gave me a social contract of employment, issued me on
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housing for a year and a half, we moved in there literally a month after filling out all the documents and were faced with a terrible problem, it was the first floor in an apartment between the door openings like this... there were holes like that down into the basement, rats, bedbugs, we did repairs there, we called various people, they just hounded me because it interfered with my life, and then what, your social rent ran out, no, no, no, no, they tried to evict me from there, later i lived a little longer for about two months, in the end i i made a decision for myself that well, i should just get out of there move out, natalya, on what basis do you...
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irin, but really, the fate of the children should not worry anyone in this situation, there is a mother with many children, she has three children, she is provided with housing for a year and a half, then where else, but really the organs guardians did not have to somehow track where the three minor children would go. in fact , there are a lot of questions, but so far not to anastasia, but really to government agencies, these are social services, these are guardianship authorities. why didn’t the social network invite anastasia to write a statement and register her as is in a difficult life situation, in which case they would be obliged to provide her with flexible housing for social rent not for a year and a half, of course anastasia:
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did the children go to kindergarten? yes, it was a private kindergarten, which was located right in the house in which i rented an apartment with my children. we went to this kindergarten for a long time, for a month? how much did it cost? it cost 5.00 rubles. for one child. were your children assigned to the clinic? of course, we visited us at our place of residence, when the child was born, a visiting nurse visited us, we handed over everything tests, underwent any examinations, of course, it was in my interests to know that my children are healthy and do not need help from medical institutions. anastasia, your family has never come to the attention of the guardianship authorities, that ’s right, just when i announced that in the issued social housing there were such various living creatures that did not allow them to live and interfered with the condition of the children, they came to us to investigate the house, whether all this was really so, they discovered, it means that there were these, well, there were just cockroaches there, there was
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rat, but at the same time the acts were drawn up stating that this is not, that is, the housing is suitable, they do not see this as an emergency, but have you ever had the threat of losing parental rights, never? now all my relatives are just ready to help me, they are crying, they are waiting for me in the evening, where i am sleeping now, since i don’t have a place to live, my relatives are all ready to accept me, and which relatives, whose, exactly from my side father, his wife, and also her granddaughters, they have their own apartments, which they are ready for me at any time provide, on any basis, an agreement in which i can move with the children, that is , pick up the children and move and... but i still plan that i will at least somehow register and get a job and
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get them into kindergarten i will have time to work, and you will allow your ex-lover to communicate with the children. by the way, where is he now, is he detained? no, you know, he was not prosecuted, interrogated in the same way as i was... allegedly lost, then i found it, i looked in, the police sealed it off, i looked through the window, he was inside, but it’s not that he didn’t want to contact me, you know, he was kind of confused, he looked scared, and i think he felt bad, i just left, who do you blame for that? that the children found themselves in such a situation, i blame myself, why did i give it away, yes, why did i, well, i couldn’t imagine that this would happen, i didn’t have any simple, just even thoughts that this could happen. i blame him, it’s just that i’m in a state
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of rage, i barely moved away just to talk to him on the phone. anastasia, a resident of the same high-rise building in which your children were found, does not understand how it was possible to allow her own children to grow up in such conditions, in alla chastyakova’s studio. hello, hello, alla, hello, how did you find out about what happened? i found out that a neighbor... saw a half-naked child on the street, this one was smeared with paint, called the police, she asked the boy where his parents were, where he was from, well, she asked, yes, he showed the basement where they live, horror, what horror, how you can live like this, a nightmare, a nightmare, and before this incident you saw these children, well, i saw, i was walking from the store, i looked, a child was running towards me, and i looked around, there was no one at all, and this one looked, turned around him, i think where he will go next, and how
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old he was approximately, well, four or five, somewhere like that, i went into a store, this grocery store, i think maybe mom is there or dad, mom is there, i then little by little, little by little left there, and what the child looked like, he was dressed, he had shoes, well, he was dressed, so to speak, for the plowing, somehow this overalls without a hat, the weather was already cool, i thought how the parents were there, i thought about how they let a little child go somewhere like that. from them, and you didn’t try to ask him, to stop him, where are his parents, why is he alone? well, how can i say, he walked quickly, quickly, i didn’t run after him anymore, have you seen the children’s father before? no, i haven’t seen the mother either, but do you know anything about the boy’s mother? well, you know how to say that this is, well, she left the children, went somewhere to another city, how is this possible, i ’m just surprised, in your opinion, who is to blame the fact that this happened, parents, then what...
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how did you meet your friend? it was about four years ago, i work with computers too, i came on an ad to buy computer hardware, so we met, describe him as a person, in fact a good person, like a father, very caring, have you visited him , have you seen his children? yes, i was there, i saw what condition the children were in? they were, strictly speaking, well-groomed, that is, their teeth were clean, they didn’t have any, in fact, there weren’t any scratches there, why?
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secret for a million on saturday at 13:00 on ntv. beyond the bounds, this is beyond the bounds, but... he took three children from their mother and settled with them in the basement of a st. petersburg high-rise building in unsanitary conditions. arthur, what can you say about anastasia? yes, she paid attention to the children, of course, but not particularly in terms of intellectual development. in short, did your friend tell you about anastasia, about their relationship, in particular? their relationship was difficult, that is, as i saw it, that is, there were often quarrels and conflicts, so they separated, it turns out, according to his guesses. in samara nastya has a young man, well, nastya, of course, still came, despite all this, your friend was very worried about parting with her, on the one hand, as if not, because they regularly quarreled. and he seemed to want, in principle, to live separately from her, but on the other hand, at some moments he still
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remembered them, they called each other, i can say that yes, there were moments when he was bored, even though he and could deny it, but did you really move to another city because of new love? no, absolutely not, we broke up long before you came into my life a person who is ready to help me now, and maybe even later he said that... if i had known, he was aware of what had happened, if i had known what this was, i would never have given you permission in my life , that is, he told me, grow up, you are a mother, you decide, he was against giving it away again, well , that is, you now have a new chosen one, yes , i love him, how long have you been together with him, we have been together for six months, you are planning a family , yes, that is, you have lived with your children for the last six months and with this new chosen one, yes, yes, yes, yes, at first we lived with him. next i i rented an apartment, well, all this happened, in fact, and he works, he can provide for your children, yes, of course, he
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works, all our living conditions were good, what kind of relationship were the children with your new chosen one, they accepted him , they knew that they had a father, i think it was a little difficult with him, that is, it’s much easier for the kids, they climbed up on the arms, and that is , they somehow looked like that with caution, but then they behaved absolutely normally, like ... adapted to new conditions, but also giving children to dad means interrupting this process of adaptation, that is, we form in this
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way the child’s avoidance when we need to get used to new changing conditions, therefore, from this point of view, giving it away was unconstructive, but intuitively this is what the new couple was supposedly trying to create family, raising children, explaining... what is good and what is bad, and this also caused additional stress for the children, why not go to dad, where you can play, for example, with a tablet, which gives the children more freedom. arthur, your friend explained why he decided to take the children away from anastasia? a friend explained to me that, firstly, he loves children very much, and secondly, he would not want them to remain under her influence. did your friend support his children well? in fact, he tried to do his best. efforts to ensure that they lived in comfort, he fed them regularly, well , look, you started talking about comfort, but
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can the conditions of the basement be called comfortable, he lived in the basement for as long as he lived, he lived there fully since the beginning of summer, and this one he rented a basement, yes, but why a basement, why not an apartment, initially it was intended as a workshop for doing business, how much did he rent this basement for ? one room per month, and have you been in this basement yourself? yes, of course, what are your impressions? actually different, that is, if they tidy it up, they’ll be very good, that’s good? when the children lived there, were you there? yes, there was, and where did the children sleep? they had , it turns out, equipped sleeping places, that is, two sofas, two sofas without backs, completely with sheets, with blankets, so on at the moment it seems like there’s just one big one left. sofa for all three children, where did the children eat? most often, in fact, in the room where they rested, where
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, in fact, they slept, played, that is, he cooked for them there - and that he prepared various foods, mostly cereals, vegetables, fruits, and where they washed where did you go to the toilet? we went to the toilet along the corridor to the toilet, that is, to the bathroom, and washed ourselves. in the sink, and things were washed and washed, it turns out in such a nice large container, well, for them it was essentially like in the bathtub, well, in size, but when you visited your friend and his children in this basement, why didn’t anything bother you, why didn’t you sound the alarm, this is a disaster, not the conditions, yes i agree, the conditions, of course, are not the best, i understand that these are not the best, they are no good, he often tidied up, it was better, but this, well, a couple of times i could also notice this, now at the moment everything is tidied up there differently, when you
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noticed this, you said that saw you didn't tell your friend. that this is terrible, i said that this is some kind of rubbish, it’s time tidy up again, so i've been trying to restrain my own indignation throughout the program, and in relation to your words anastasia and yours, you know what confuses me about your rhetoric, you are calm, you have a steady pulse, every time i turn to this photo, i tremble it’s all out of indignation at how children can be in this, and you didn’t tell your friend: it’s time to clean up. this is not the phrase that is said in this situation, to a friend, if it is a friend , they say: you are crazy, quickly get the children out of here, wherever you want, but just how do we to remain calm, i don’t understand, really, olga, don’t you think that now arthur is just shielding his friend, naturally shielding him, because for them,
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you know, it somehow didn’t work out for me at all. that he went to a basement somewhere and did business there, and she went to some other city a thousand miles from st. petersburg, took the children there, well , probably the man suffered some kind of injury, and he settled in a den , you see, that is , he had a desire to close himself off there and move away, then again here you are you’re being disingenuous, but how did the children end up there, that is, did you see where your husband moved?
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and so on, yes, but he will not bear any responsibility. arthur, when the police came to your friend’s basement, where was he? and, as far as i know, he was in the basement, he really didn’t understand what was happening, he was very outraged by what was happening, i would even say, he believed that there was no reason to take the children. yes, he did not want to give up the children, that is, he was against it. do you know if he wants the children back? yes, for myself, not for my mother, for myself. and how are you do you think he can be trusted with children again, well , after such a situation, i think they definitely won’t stay there, in principle it’s wrong, of course, and after such a situation he at least has a chance of getting some kind of housing, so in this case, i think that it would be very good, well, that is , maybe something would work out, do you think he will improve, yes, the saleswoman of the store
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where the family went for several years insists that... no children in no case should it be given to the father, and the mother should be deprived of parental rights. our guest is natalya zaitseva. hello hello. what can you tell us about the children's father and mother? well, i don’t know my father, i’ve never seen him, but my mother, well, a woman began to come and noticed that she was dressed a little hesitantly, the children there are not always dressed according to the season. well, i did. especially the fact that she could give a little child dirty carrots or apples to gnaw on, and i also, well , like a mother herself, it was jarring that how is it so, well, i and how often she came, well, almost every day, what she bought little things, in basically i bought three apples there or a few onions there, and you thought that
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the family was simply low-income? no, i asked... a terribly dirty stroller, i say, it’s basically dirty diapers, the child is allergic because his mother ate it, yes, well, covered all over with red spots, because his mother fed him milk, before that she ate a tangerine, but when she came to you, how did she behave? well, nastya was caught stealing, all her products were expensive,
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she did it more than once, yes, because so... shrimp, red fish, cheeses, and how often did she steal? i don’t know how often, that is, well, as i understand it, the police already knew her, that is, she was detained in others. in shops. anastasia, did you really shoplift? how did i steal? i took the food and put it in the stroller, because i didn’t have the money to pay, and the children wanted to eat, food for children, fish, shrimp, i wanted to sell it somewhere, maybe to a neighbor, or someone else, i just had tears in my eyes when you don’t understand how to pay for the apartment, how to feed these children, what to do in general, i can’t even imagine what i would do, i would go out and say give something or something, well, i can’t even think of it in my head... it doesn’t work out for me, i also feel very sorry for her this situation, another question is that why the man who was next to her allowed, allowed this story
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where to go, we have the same social protection, we have guardianship and trusteeship authorities, nastya could come and write a statement that she is in a difficult life situation, believe me, the guardianship and trusteeship authorities could temporarily place her children in a social rehabilitation center center, help her with work, with money, when a mother takes care of her children, when... a mother loves her children, she cannot allow them to be harmed in terms of what if she were brought to criminal responsibility, but if only her if she had been imprisoned, no matter who her children stayed with, they would still have ended up in a social rehabilitation center. natalya, why do you think that anastasia should be deprived of parental rights? now, for example, children, yes, at least they saw a clean bed, normal food, clothes, they take care of them.
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mom didn’t provide that for them, well, at least i didn’t see it, but from whom did you even learn about what happened? in the news, i saw, well, i understood that the person was lying, blatantly lying about the fact that, well, children cannot be sent to the same conditions, i was not aware of this, i came save them, take them away. marina, what conclusion can you draw after our entire discussion? nastya, trying to create her own family, unfortunately, did not become an adult authority in this family. face, i see a rather childish position here, a position in which we constantly, as if we hear, that something is unfinished, unfinished, that is, the whole world is against her, and such, you know, a victim, this is such a childish, sacrificial infantile position, in my opinion, it is a red line here, in general it can be traced through everything, and it’s a pity that the fragile adult psyche became, as we see, a trauma for children in the end.

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