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and he couldn’t, he was constantly in touch with his family, and those horrors are not true, this is blatant slander, a lie, but this is all from the words of his daughter, do you think his daughter slandered, slandered, yes, why could she do this, maybe she had some kind of resentment against her father, maybe he punished her for something, he wanted to punish her with a promise to take away the phone, because the girl. ..
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exactly the eleventh, this is the evening when this quarrel happened, so to speak, the starting point of all these scandals, showdowns, my brother was billed for being in a medical institution, almost half of his monthly salary, since the niece is not a citizen of the russian federation, it costs money, and she is a citizen which country, belarus, maybe that’s why he couldn’t restrain himself and... threatened to take away the phone
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if she continued to walk around like that, turning off parental controls. and your brother, did he raise his daughter alone? the last 10 months, yes, but before that she lived.
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painted, when my daughter was born, my brother was very happy, he was proud, he was proud that he had a daughter and even boasted to our childless brothers, but i have a daughter, right away, right away, yes, my brother took care of my daughter when she lived with her mother, yes, he
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came, he paid child support without arrears, he came two or three times a year, took his niece, fully dressed her, put on shoes, all sorts of gifts... he took them together, took them to cafes, to all sorts of entertainment centers, bought gifts, they visited guests, we have a lot of brothers sisters, so he introduced them so that his niece would not be torn away. from our family. yuri, well , you see, from what oksana says, the image of a well- caring father is emerging. yes, that’s the feeling, you just need to understand that in addition to all the conditions that, so to speak, everyday life are very important, the system of relations between dad and daughter is also important; a daughter at 11, 12, 13 years old believes that
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dad is always an obstacle to her freedom , adult life. dad saw that his niece had a difficult character, he saw that... she deserved everything in her eyes respect, she somehow could afford to look down on him, sometimes with contempt, i’ll even tell you, there was a case, he comes home from work, his niece is doing appliqué, something is cut out, scattered, and he asks her, please clean it up , garbage, and she, without being distracted from her work, i’ll clean it up, you’re garbage too, here’s my brother, he told us, tears in his eyes, it was so unpleasant for him, so painful, you describe such a wonderful and caring dad, who was in touch at a distance and alimony gifts, he supplied everything, and they talked all the time with the girl, and it can’t be that he loved and cared so much, such an ungrateful daughter
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reacted to her dad like that in the end, yes, that she can slander him like that and put such a pig in him, so to speak in the form of accusations, this can’t happen, oksan, when... she could have missed it, but cunningly, like taking her to work, she goes to school, she goes to her first lesson, and then she goes somewhere, either for a walk around the city, or with her friends , or home, she might want to study and not cause him
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such troubles in the form of calling him to school, but it was difficult for her, it was difficult for her to immediately transfer from one school to another because of inappropriate behavior? after all, she just didn’t want to study, maybe that’s why she behaved like that, well, there were explanatory notes from her, teachers demanded from her, why did she miss this or that lesson, what did she write? do not cause questions or undue attention to the family. we are dealing with a child who
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finds himself in a very difficult psychological situation. on the one hand, moving, she comes to a new place, st. petersburg, dad demands his own, come on here adapt so that i don’t get into trouble, and the girl, accordingly, is not adapted, she wasn’t even given time to exhale, the child finds herself between a rock and a hard place. how do you think? what does a teenager do at this age? he rebels, this is absolutely objective behavior in this situation, this is a teenager’s rebellion from powerlessness. veronique, do you agree with irina? you know, i agree, because the parental environment is , first of all, about safety, about some kind of trust, yes, but the child has not developed a trusting relationship with his father, perhaps there is still some reason here that the father could not establish a relationship with the girl, he might have wanted to, but this was not enough, she did not have...
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with the rest of the relatives, in what conditions they lived in st. -petersburg? in good, normal ones, it could have been wider, but it turned out to only rent a room in a commune, let's see what the room in which your brother and daughter lived looks like, i have no words, that is, the girl has been living with her dad for 12 years in this room, and where can you eat, sleep, relax at the end of the and they eat, they live there, oh-oh-oh, they study, well, it looks monstrous, monstrous. alina, how
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do you like these conditions, how can a girl live here? the conditions, of course, are horrifying, in addition, the girl will be embarrassed in front of her peers that she lives in such conditions, and this will provoke a negative attitude towards her father, this is complete unsanitary conditions, i think there are no sanitary standards a... observed. oksana, how can you explain these conditions, given that you described your father this way? it's artificially created. there was always order it’s just that on the day when he brought her from the hospital, on the eleventh, she started screaming and threw everything away herself. she did this, well, no, a 12-year-old girl cannot do such a thing. they didn’t live like that, they lived normally. i also see here that things are scattered, chaotically. note that. if they really lived in such conditions, then there is a kettle, and there is a monitor,
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there is something on the table, that is, in principle, these are things, so to speak, well, those that should be put away are put away, and the rest of the things that are easy to throw off, collect them in a heap, they are all lying around, it’s not difficult, in a small room, those who lived in small areas, put two things there, it already seems like a mess, look, here we see a bunch of things, we don’t see a single closet, even if if they were with... it would be clear that they are scattered, but here there is a kettle on top of a dirty tablecloth, which means they obviously drank tea on it, when you threw things, you would put the kettle on them, no, i, unfortunately, very often i am faced with a situation where children have to be removed from their families, and we, as human rights activists, participate in this, well, as if weighing all sides, because we will always stand on the side of representing the interests of the child, first of all.
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the cabinets are still standing, and you’re just cutting out everything, and every wallpaper, what are you talking about, that this is just preparation for renovation, oksana, after your niece was taken away on...
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on the seventh from the lawyer, what does he need accused of torturing a minor, it will be very interesting to see the official commentary from the investigative committee and the prosecutor's office. torture, article 117 criminal code of the russian federation. it was on this basis that investigators in st. petersburg opened a criminal case against a forty-three-year-old man who, according to them, abused his own daughter. he has already been charged. according to investigators, accusing. from 2023 to the present, in an apartment located in one of the houses on enthusiast avenue, he systematically beat his twelve-year-old daughter, limited her food intake, and kept her chained in the room of the said apartment. the girl was placed in a children's social institution, her life and there is no threat to health.
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the necessary measures are being taken to clarify all the circumstances of the incident. article 65 tells us that parents do not have the right to cause harm to the health, as well as the physical mental health of the child, there is responsibility for this, in this case, if we talk about systematic beatings, here they were correctly charged with article 117 of the criminal code, probably part two,
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there liability from three to 7 years, in connection with which a preventive measure was chosen in the form detention. but moreover, i want to note that there is also article 156 of the criminal code, which relates specifically to parental education, where liability is provided for up to 3 years of imprisonment, that is, in my opinion, well, here at least in terms of systematic beatings it is probably qualified under article 117 , within the framework of failure to comply with child abuse. here it is also necessary to further qualify oksan’s criminal appeal under article 156, we have just heard that the father, according to consequences, limited my daughter in... food, could it be? it couldn't. the niece knew how to cook herself, she had access to food, but her brother did not demand this from her, he himself
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came home from work and did the cooking. a difficult teenager or a victim of the tyrant's father. what awaits the accused if he really abused his daughter? it’s very difficult to believe that a 12-year-old child has such a sophisticated mind that he made such a slander, it doesn’t happen. there is never smoke without fire, and how the girl’s mother will explain why she gave her daughter to be raised by her ex, i had hard, all the most interesting things in a matter of minutes, superstar, will light up your names, light up your names names, times, for all times, for all times.
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code of russia. oksana, the worst thing is, everything else pales in comparison to this, he held his daughter on a chain, she said this, this is exactly what she said, or they just saw it lying around, this is an official commentary from the investigative committee, you don’t believe in this, absolutely not, you you know, we have a photograph of that
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very... chain, how can you explain where this chain even came from, this chain was purchased by my brother in order to tie up a bicycle, that is, you knew about the chain, but you knew that your brother accused of the fact that he kept his daughter on a chain, this cannot happen, it is very difficult to believe that at 12 years old a child has such a sophisticated mind, that he made such a slander, that he came up with this , imagine how much a 12 year old girl is. understands what it is, if she reports this against her father, then she will either remain in an orphanage or in guardianship rather than with her dad, and if she was sitting on a chain, then how could she communicate with her friends, take walks, go everywhere, why no one i didn’t notice any abrasions on her, i absolutely agree, there is such a thing as psychopathy, psychopathy is characteristic the fact that a person can be
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very... good with some people, when you do not suspect a tendency towards cruelty, and where he can fully manifest this shadow side, there he may well be cruel, and in such cases their thousands, there is no smoke without fire, there never is, considering that the investigation took place, considering that there was an examination, at least the initial one, i am inclined to believe that the girl is not deceiving after all, oksana, before this your brother was observed to be cruel , no, of course, he was brought up in love, care, tell us what kind of family you had, of course, we have a big family, this brother, he is the fifth child in the family, i am the sixth, and after us there are eight more, your brother was obedient to the child, no, but he was punished, how do you punish him if he runs fast, how do you punish him, yes, he, he loved to explore everything, there was never violence in your family, there was no,
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why, there was no punishment. he raised his daughter based on this example in the image and likeness of our family, when your brother’s daughter lived with her mother, did her mother punish her? no, we were too with our niece soft and not far off for the period when she will become the main one, last year she already began to believe that she was taller than her mother, this year she began to believe that she was taller than her dad, here is the eldest, adults are not an authority for her. did the girl’s mother complain to you or your brother about her behavior? no, she didn’t complain, she went to school there more willingly, there were two friends there, and my daughter, her friend, she had support when she was bullied, it went away,
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but there were no complaints about behavior, but despite that, that your niece's mother didn't complain you, she admits that her daughter’s character was very difficult, in our studio olesya zhikharevich. hello oles, hello oles, was it difficult for you to raise your daughter? yes, it used to be hard, that the character, well, i have years, maybe where i could be guilty, that i didn’t notice a little, that i didn’t add, like my own mother. did you really pay little attention to your daughter? previously, i gave more attention, but then i went out, well... to work, then he sent his daughter to kindergarten, and then we had some difficulties with her. we were quarreling, well, yes, it was a little like unleavened, the child may have more
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of a father’s character, when your daughter went to school, learning was easy for her, no, no, it wasn’t easy, relations with classmates were good, not with everyone, not with everyone, it happened there, not with everyone, because her classmates offended her. there were no problems at another school ; how was your relationship with your daughter? could she share something with you, tell you about something? well, when and how, if she hid it, and if she told you, then explain what led to you they wanted to limit parental rights, that i couldn’t cope with everyday life, with everyday life, and
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then i gave the child to my brother, that i would go for treatment, i had bad habits, yes before, and then that year there was no one to become him , i gave him my own brother. came from the hospital, the ex-husband is taking the child away from russia, that is, you were not against the father taking the girl to st. petersburg? yes, but that’s how i communicated with her and but you were sure that the father would take care of your daughter, that he would cope, because i lived with him for 4 years, we had love, agreement, it was hard for you to part with the girl when her father took her, but it was hard for me. why did you give it away? good father, do you miss your daughter? when she lived with her dad, you often called her on the phone,
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talked, everything was fine, she showed where she slept, everything in the room, there was a kitchen, everything was clean, there was even food. but she didn’t tell you that she misses you very much, she used to say, i miss you, she didn’t ask to go back, go home, now, now ladies, this happened, i of course understand why my father took me, this is absolutely objective, understandable, i wanted the best, but i couldn’t cope, in order for the child to become loyal, the dad began to perform such actions that are called suppression, and apparently there is a border somewhere. lost, that is, you will obey me, i want the best for you, all means are good, here, of course, this is a monstrous mistake that dad made, because the child needed exactly the opposite, he had to be gradually adapted to the new
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environment, to the city, to dad, to himself, whom she saw online, for her the image of dad is this is the one who sent the gift, she said, i have a beautiful one, once, maybe there at 3 months, she didn’t even know her father, she got in, she had the impression that i was now going to a good dad, who lives in the city, everything will be wonderful, he will give me gifts, but dad turned out to be different, because he is a living person, and not... you say this, but now here are the photographs, yes, yes, this was not supposed to be, i want to convert
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pay attention to the photo, this is what kind of object is lying on the suitcase or on some box, it looks like it’s a pregnancy test, maybe the father was afraid of something, i don’t know, but oksana, where could a pregnancy test appear in your brother’s apartment? the only problem was school, well, older girlfriends, but so, no, i noticed behavior unusual for children, she... tried to paint her nails somehow, her eyes were already at the age of nine, at 10 she needed hair, we wondered why, you’re a child, it was alarming, strict behavior, because he i was worried, olesya, do you know where your daughter is now, you are planning to take her, yes, i drove here for her sake, to take her home, ole, but do you think the girl’s father could really hold your daughter? no, no, i lived with him for 4 years, this didn’t happen,
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well, that is, you also think that your daughter could slander her father, and could say something about him, the neighbor with whom the accused and her daughter lived across the wall did not hear or see nothing suspicious, our guest is valentina kirillova, valentina, hello, hello, how long have you known the accused? and i saw this man’s daughter in january month, well, we said hello, he left, he made a good impression on me, the man is so well-fed, round-faced, clean, neat, did you meet him with his daughter? no, i met him alone at first, for the first time, and i saw the girl later, it was, i was walking from the store, there was a girl standing by the elevator, but i... asked her, what floor are you on? she says, on the eighth, we have a
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closed site, three apartments, i see her coming to us, i say: oh, you live with us, she says, yes, i say, have you arrived long ago? she says: no, recently, i say, you are with dad and mom, she said: no, i’m with dad, i say, where is mom? she said there is no mother. and after this incident did you really communicate with the girl? the second time i saw him, her in march, probably, i went out onto the site, she was sitting on our site, there was a sofa. she was sitting on the sofa, without a briefcase, without anything, i came up, i said, why are you sitting, she said, i forgot my keys, i’m waiting for dad, i asked what your name is, at least, i say, come to us, i’ll give you some tea, she turned away from me just like that, like that he says, no, i won’t go, i can’t, and so i immediately became depressed, and i sat there, well, i didn’t insist, i left, what opinion did others have about the accused?
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she did not notice anything suspicious when communicating with her daughter. now the community showed both the room and the kitchen there. valentina, what impression does it have on you in general? the girl was acting out, the girl was uncommunicative, no, she didn’t tell me in the elevator what
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her name was, what i didn’t say here, maybe her father was intimidating, maybe he’d warn me, but it looks like this, well, it seems, yes, that’s it she somehow, when i started talking to her and wanted to talk to something, she immediately sat down like this, like this, and turned away, you really can’t remember a single scandal between father and daughter, you didn’t hear anything. no, i can’t even wrap my head around it, when the journalists came, our st. petersburg ones there, they began to tell me tell, show the room, oh, you know, i was in a stupor, they couldn’t imagine that this was happening there, i couldn’t, by the looks of it, the girl was cleanly dressed, good, well, very reserved , i was shocked by this news in general, i didn’t sleep at night, i thought, god, and they also said that he fastened her with chains and beat her, and he was hungry. stained, oh, yesterday i saw a neighbor who lives with them, i asked him, i said, why, really, living in
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an apartment, didn’t you see this mess in the room, i said, didn’t you see, don’t cry child, nothing, they said, yes, no, there was nothing such a big noise, but sometimes the child cried, but we thought that you never know the father was punishing her, we talked with other neighbors, let's listen to what... they say: residents in the st. petersburg high-rise building where a twelve-year-old girl and her father lived, they were shocked to learn that their neighbor could abuse their daughter. eighty-six-year-old valery zubkov says he lives on the same staircase with this family, the man never aroused his suspicions. yesterday to i heard on tv that a father and his daughter live in this apartment, that he is abusing his daughter, allegedly tying her up. but we didn't see it. another neighbor of the accused, seventy-five-year-old boris erzov, also did not notice anything suspicious. if the neighbors
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who live nearby didn’t hear anything, but the audibility in that house is excellent, because he, well, even when a friend lives next to me turns on the music, you can hear everything perfectly, but there was absolutely nothing. she would never have stayed away if...
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whatever they threatened, he won’t squeak, and we know this from many situations when children were subjected to violence of all kinds,
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when under the eyes of neighbors, parents, excuse me, the devil, what was going on and what the heck, this is a holy man, and at the same time this was systematic, over many years and so on, a frightened little child who found himself in a situation where he has no support, except for his father, he is the only one... support, she will be silent, while, look, there is no support only from father and mother, as we understood, support no, that is, she is lonely, she is alone with her problems, she could really decide to tell the doctors about this only in a few days, olesya, and if your ex- lover is still guilty, you will be able to forgive him someday for what he did with your daughter, maybe it will be true, i’ll lock him up myself and i’ll burn him myself. let's see what people think about this situation. a nightmare, just a nightmare, poor child, how did they give him the child? apparently,
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the mother there is even worse, since... to whom the father they gave it away, now they are building such apartments that you can hear the neighbors talking from the next entrance, was there really nothing suspicious heard, if this is true, then severe punishment is needed, and if these are the fantasies of a 12- year-old girl, then this is a question, a sadist, where is the mother? , well , here it’s easier to deprive parental rights in an orphanage, but it can’t be that no one noticed anything before the fracture, neither neighbors, nor at school, and didn’t inform the guardianship authorities, brad, where are the guardianship authorities, where is the school, this is a twelve-year-old child , has no one noticed before, the landlord could also be held criminally liable for not going and checking his living space; once a month he could have spent 10 minutes of his time. marina, it’s the landlord’s fault, as mentioned in the comments, yes, there is, we need to look at what was specified in the contract, if
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he was obliged to come, record the condition, at least the physical living space, what conditions, then yes, but so, of course, how can he be responsible for the actions of other people? irina, today we heard a lot of opinions and information, what what impression did you have about the situation, what actually happened there? i have seven children, yes, i know what it’s like to go through teenagers seven times, and this is indeed a very difficult age, but to definitely convict the father, and here the investigation must sort it out and the authorities must sort it out, because they have . access to an objective situation, i would absolutely stand on the side of the child and would not give it to either the mother or the father, you did not prove to us here in the studio that you are a very good mother, because a very good mother would never give it away your child under any pretext, you were visiting your daughter in this room, in another room, you do not take into account the financial situation of the villagers, you are a mother of five
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children, did you have a situation, a conflict?
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oksana, if the girl really slandered your brother, can you forgive her for it? and i don’t blame her, i understand that it was a momentary moment, she regretted it, she regretted it, she simply could not foresee the consequences with her immature childish mind, she did not know what the consequences would be, how father will be punished. irina, what do you think
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if the girl really slandered her dad? a little later she realized what had happened, she would have told someone about it, as it really was, the same psychologists, the investigator, this does not always happen, a child, it will be extremely difficult for him to admit that she lied, this, you know , that at the level of such rejection, if i admit that i am not so good, then no one will believe me, i will again find myself alone, they will refuse me , they will refuse me, and then again this feeling the guilt is terrible. remember, only dad, there is no one else, and i will lose the whole world, child, even if she exaggerated something, well, let's think logically, the girl comes from a rural area, where there is no great level of education there, that's how sophisticated she is she comes up with everything, but this is impossible, even given her age, given her socio-cultural environment, there was
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a twelve-year-old girl was taken to the hospital and confessed to the doctors that she was being cruelly tortured by her own father. the man was immediately detained. however , his sister, forty-one-year-old oksana kozlovskaya, is sure her niece slandered her brother. he is simple, my brother is simple and simple-minded, with an open soul, he fulfilled all her wishes, requests, and did not refuse. this reliability may have played such a role. marin, as a result, will check whether the daughter slandered her father or not, how can specialists recognize the slander if there was one? an examination will be carried out if a forensic pedagogical or forensic psychological, to see how the child reacts in general, tests will be carried out, not only in the moment, but a dynamic examination must also be carried out, that is, on the child. it’s common to exaggerate and lie,
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or the child, on the contrary, is actually telling the truth, and if the girl changes her testimony, what awaits the accused? well, here again they will proceed from the fact that why did she change it, that is, maybe she changed it again, but she doesn’t have an unstable psychological state, so on what basis did she do it even if the girl will say: sorry, i was mistaken, i was joking, it will be quite difficult to rewind all this, difficult and... when they have already been taken into custody, usually the investigation does not abandon what has already been done, but the girl’s mother has a chance take her away, yes, but if we are talking about the grounds that now exist, she was not deprived of parental rights, there were no restrictions, no, there were no, dad took her, i think the conditions now, which have improved, most likely, yes, why not no, but again this is not an easy process, i can help and advise, at least assist. what to do next? andrey,
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how will events in this case develop further? now the period of detention has been concluded for 2 months, i think so, there will be an extension for about 2 months, and the case will be transferred to court, and already the verified qualification, as it is going now, as i understand it, there is part two of article 117 torture , a term from three to seven years, but it is possible in this interval due to the fact that the subject committed the crime and ...
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you can give the parents so that similar situations, god forbid, do not repeat themselves, the most important advice is

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