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tv   Mesto vstrechi  NTV  August 13, 2024 2:00pm-4:01pm MSK

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good luck to you, today in our program: enough, russia, no strength, lies and provocation, kiev staged the largest information sabotage against russia, who? fell for all
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this nonsense, learn ukrainian and get ready for the referendum, neutral reaction, iaea inspectors could not name the cause of the largest fire at the zaporizhzhya npp. how long will they shield kiev. this is a completely different level of targeted aggression. fight women, transgender people are taking over international sports. why are they now betting on them?
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they themselves are starting this first of all spread, and secondly, even more somehow to escalate all this, this is what i think is more difficult to fight, well, let 's gradually discuss all this now, let's start with the latest news, today it is the belgorod region, in the morning it was announced that the evacuation from the krasnoyarsk region, now i will tell you correctly, which was announced in connection with the enemy's activity on the border, this is the quote, it is almost complete, and as the head of the region said. vyacheslav golotkov in 24 hours almost all civilians left the krasnoyarsk region population, this is 11 thousand people, more than a thousand of them are currently in temporary accommodation points. according to available information , about 500 people remained in place, these are employees of the local administration, these are workers of key facilities, self-defense fighters. since monday , entry to this area has been closed, because shelling there does not stop, mortar fire on ...
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on the power line in the village of vyazovoe, another 96 rounds of ammunition were fired by the ukrainian armed forces in 24 hours at the village of kolotilovka, the only crossing point in this area is operating there russian-ukrainian border, but there is no information about attempts by ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups to break through this section. well , the russian ministry of defense today distributed such footage. this, let's take a look, yes, this is the arrival of heavy. equipment and personnel in the kursk region, they will block the destruction of groups of armed forces of ukraine in the border areas, it is reported that this work will be carried out around the clock. well, now let's look at the night video, this is the work combat aviation also in the border areas of the kursk region. intelligence data was received, after which the crews struck the locations of the ukrainian armed forces near the border with aviation bombs, and returned back to the airfields. belovsky district of the kursk region. current
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offensive, publishing fake videos about the approach to the city of lgov, this is 15 km from the kursk nuclear power plant, it quickly became clear that the soldiers were posing against the background of a homemade cardboard sign, such a sign can be placed on any road, there are no ukrainian soldiers in the city, that they explain, real road signs indicating the location in russia are usually placed on two poles, not on one, well, let's listen to the local authorities about the situation in the city, the situation in the city is difficult, tense, but stable, all utilities are working, shops, pharmacies are working in sufficient quantities, everything is in place. work in the city continues, part of the population has left. at the official
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level, kiev is not lagging behind tsypso in terms of fakery, because they have already announced that they control 1.2 km of russian territory, well and choked on such statements. the united states, linsigram, he flew to kiev immediately called ukraine's actions in the kursk region bold and even beautiful, however, he casually, while justifying washington, the united states knew nothing about ukraine's intentions. washington said that kiev would fall in 3 days, but it turned out that in 2 and a half years you are already entering russia, we are proud of your government, it is bold, i am glad that you did not warn us about this, did not say, but did
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it, the russians are already paying the price, so i i hope that in 2024 you will receive more military aid from congress, well, having noticed such approval from its allies, kiev... has already begun negotiations with partners to obtain as many permits as possible to strike with all available western weapons throughout russian territory, the french are silent for now, the germans are dodging and saying that if the weapons are used , they will be considered ukrainian, not german, well, that is, in essence, this is approval, unlike london, by the way, where, as the newspaper telegraf reports, kiev was banned from using missiles stormshadow in the kursk region, let's hear the reaction of the us state department. gener in general, we support ukrainian forces that are coming across the border to take action to defend their country. this, as president biden said, is common sense. we remain focused on ensuring that our partners in ukraine have what they need to defend themselves against russian aggression, but ultimately,
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it is up to ukraine to decide how to conduct its military operations. nothing in the american the policy regarding strikes across the border has not changed. over the past few days. on sunday, some kurdish publics began to inform city residents that the ukrainian armed forces were laying siege to the city. kiev concocted this fake thanks to the telegram channel online, which was created several weeks earlier and disguised as a pro-russian news channel.
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against the backdrop of the missile threat warning , some residents began to go hysterical. cors communications. attention, attention. on the same day , the ukrainian tsypsoshniks launched an information attack continued, disguised as the ministry of emergency situations. the townspeople began to be bombarded with fake messages about an urgent evacuation in the direction of orel and voronezh. panic was prevented thanks to the prompt response of the ministry of emergency situations. the administration of fake publics, publishing material from the official channel, distribute materials about... threats of drone attacks, this is done to misinform the population and create panic. the message about the shelling of the kursk nuclear power plant and the evacuation of local residents also had to be refuted. residents of kurchatov false calls began to come in warning about the imminent capture of the station
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by the ukrainian military. in telegram channels , the fakers supported this message with footage of some strategic nuclear facility. almost immediately it became clear that this was a missile silo from a museum in the kirovograd region.
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russia is fed up, i can't stand it, here's what we just showed, specialists can expose all this, but they need some time for this, and just an ordinary resident of some village, yes, a settlement, who is starting to receive all this, he of course he won't be able to separate anything. he starts to get really nervous, he has no way to establish that this video was
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filmed there 2 years ago in a completely different place, in short, is there any real way to protect people from this, besides the physical destruction of all these centers of information and psychological special operations in ukraine, yes, it is not easy and not quick, it is necessary to prepare in advance, it is necessary to cultivate in people the skills of self-restraint in consumption.
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he reads a russian channel, he does not know that this is not a russian channel, look, if you have some telegram channel loaded, they cannot load another telegram channel in place of this telegram channel, you must go to another channel, which is fake, if you read this one, you will read it, that is, through the administration, a person subscribed to a russian channel, like... thought that this is russia, either you do not hear me, or you do not let me finish, an employee of the administration in this village stupidly comes and says: marya ivanovna, you are reading a telegram channel, he says, what is this? petya, vasya, read, read, watch, this is the administration channel, this is the administration channel, this is the ministry of emergency situations, download , use it, that's it, more, more, wait, wait, the situation there is already tense, these fakes appear every few hours, you suggest every time, you didn't hear, i said it from the very beginning.
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women from the village will watch, but not from the village, people from moscow are watching and can't figure it out, who is this really, you are watching while sitting on the couch, excuse me, we eat pasta, in these villages people are watching and thinking they collect, and i'm getting to this, that yes, for those territories where the cto regime will not be carried out, everything remains in the same regime, and a different jurisdiction operates there, but here everything is clearly understood about it, you know.
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the structures make a statement and , let's say, our authorized representatives tell us what happened, are we stopping the panic in this way or not? well, first of all, i want to say to all those who want to block telegram, literally yesterday we were guiding iskanders via telegram, and our artillery is guided via telegram, our aviation is guided by telegram, whether someone likes it or not, it is reality, here recently
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well, it is impossible to divide there, a good telegram to leave the correct one. wait, mikhailich, well, i said that i am not an expert, i am interested in listening, i communicate, some who stand under suji, others there is something else, well, which ones, how will you calm people down then, protect them from information of this kind, well , officials should speak out, who should not be afraid to go, like, for example, the governor of the belgorod region, to go straight to front, for which he has great respect and, as they say, honor, and accordingly convey this very information plus...
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local authorities in official comments called the situation difficult. the situation continues to be difficult, i am in the districts of the region, i also
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sent my deputies to the districts that suffered from the uav. on the evening of august 10 , a fake appeared in telegram channels about the capture of the village of beloye, which is 80 kilometers from kursk and the breakthrough of the armed forces of ukraine. in fact, the attempt of the armed forces of ukraine to go further failed. tanks and assault infantry came under massive fire from the russian military, suffered significant losses and were forced to retreat, what are these devils running around here, they just ride quad bikes, take report photos and excite the minds of russians, a couple of days ago the ukrainian armed forces took the white one on the internet, now we are here, i do not see any traces of war, everything is in place, all services, everyone is working, at the same time in the information field a battle for su unfolded. the city is 105 km from kursk, practically on the border with ukraine, some russian military bloggers wrote, that the city was captured by the ukrainian armed forces. moreover,
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blogger yuriy podalyaka, who is read by 3 million people, criticized the news report, allegedly the journalists lied that they were moving around the city because it was captured by ukraine. the data they reported was clearly not verified. in fact, the last few days have shown that, you know, the tactics of lying, total lying, or... the information vacuum that we leave for the enemy, it is not just useless, it plays into the hands of the enemy, this morning it became known that our troops, well , maybe not completely, but in general, have already left the city of sudzha, the enemy managed to push us out, and without serious fighting, it is clear that the residents of the kursk region itself perceived such unverified data with the greatest alarm , hastily created anonymous telegram channels about the situation in the region added fuel to the fire of panic, where, for example, they posted like this: such frankly harmful advice from supposedly local residents, people were urged not to trust official information, everything is fine in the news, yes, indeed, everything
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is fine according to the official information, but if we take telegram channels, they will tell the whole truth there. vasily aleksandrovich, during the time that the special operation has been going on, i remember several times when war correspondents and war bloggers reported things that should not have been reported, well, because it was not in our military interests, the ministry of defense was doing the work then. from what i know, they even gathered someone, asked somehow, yes, several times, maybe now everyone should somehow agree, not to play ahead, the first one was published there 2-3 hours earlier, something like that, which arrived, collected views, well, everyone somehow sits down, it has already been possible to do this, or is it impossible, i don’t know, i just try to work like this, that is, if some information comes to me, first of all, i try, well, first of all, i have to be calm, and i have to check it somehow from different others.
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i don’t know, with some kind of conversations, maybe this will help, it’s difficult here, yes, how to gather people there, it means that journalists and bloggers always
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have such a cover with a link to an unnamed source, it always works like this say everything perfectly and it seems and it seems that you can't find fault with him, well, and what did he say, as the media reports and so on. the work of the authorities, right now i went into the studio on the kursk website, the kursk administration, i am officially and the administration of the website
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of the governor and government of the kursk region. so, the first thing that news, kindergartens of the kursk region are working in the free attendance mode, then there are three yesterday's news, and then the previous ones from the ninth, listen, you can't work like this, this is what he writes, that is, there are people who work in administrations that create this content, they write and so on, why is there no main button, where to go, because one governor and his staff work there in one region this way, in another region a little differently. this site is updated almost every half hour with absolutely official verified information, do you think that this cuts off all those examples that we just showed you, just on the coronavirus, i just remember, when we had a single headquarters, which was very quickly gave out all sorts of things, do you remember how much talk there was during the epidemic about the need to introduce censorship, even we
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talked about it here, that it is necessary. if the official website is updated every half hour , all residents of these regions will know that there is official information, confirmed, prompt, double-checked, they will go there so that if or when they run into a fake, it will be compared with the official, anton valerievich said that categorically, another said that it does not work, so, of course, in wartime there should be both censorship and self-censorship, the question is what we put into this concept, what we put into it, well, let's, you know, excuse me if i take too long, i'll just keep quiet later, if possible, because the topic, the topic is very serious, i'll try to be quick. you know, let's start from the very beginning, we often say that we need something like sofinform bureau reports, as it was during the great patriotic war, i think i posted one of the reports on my telegram channel on sunday and wrote about it, sofinform bureau reports, we already have them, these are the reports of the ministry of defense, in terms of structure, in terms of format, adjusted for the nature of military operations at the time, as if that is essentially what it is, another thing is that in
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that... this is exactly the setup that is created in a few days, a resource called, for example, kursk online, there are most likely subscribers, i don’t know 20 people and those same bots, some kind of message is published there, and then a popular channel, a popular channel puts it, and then another popular channel puts it, which is not this is fake, and how does a popular channel suddenly find out that there are some 20 channels with 20 subscribers with some fried stuff, it finds out that
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's how the technology works. no one reads it , that it's telegram there and moreover, you won't ban it, yes, because you'll start slandering to prove that it needs to be banned , how should it work? our weak point is regional federal publics , federal resources, by the way, i want to , you know, in two words, directly defend our war correspondents, because a war correspondent is a war correspondent. secondly, a war correspondent and a war blogger are two, that's different things, some, excuse me, are on the front line and on assignment, others are sitting on the couch, they may also be doing the right thing, well, they are different, yes, but we have everything together, we have very good war bloggers, honor to them, and there are those who are military bloggers, who are also good, there are bad ones, there are those who disperse, because they are fools, and there are hoikazhers, and there are those, anonymous, anonymous, who were created by tsepso, we don’t even know who
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is behind them.
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this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, we continue, and this part, let's start with new data on the largest fire at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, which was caused by strikes by ukrainian drones, a day has passed, finally the international atomic energy agency iaea has released a whole. report on this event, however, as expected, did not name the cause of the fire. the iaea reported that there were no traces of ukrainian drones at the station, experts did not find any. however, specialists immediately refuted the ukrainian fake about tires burning at the npp, they did not find any traces of them. the agency stated that a fire at the base of the station is unlikely, they say the main damage was concentrated at a height of about 10 m inside the cooling system. how did this damage end up there? the question is open for specialists, the most important thing, according to them
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, is that nuclear safety is not threatened, the agency promises to continue the analysis of the causes of the fire, they are monitoring in the west and another of our facilities, which are currently in the combat zone, we are talking about the gas measuring station sudzha in the kursk region, fears are fueled by these satellite images of the gas hub and the surrounding area published online, where the consequences of the strikes of the ukrainian armed forces on the kurdish region are visible . the images show, let's take a closer look at them, that one of the administrative buildings is almost completely destroyed, also in the photo is one of the sites with measuring equipment, as reported by gazprom, gas is supplied through sudzha, despite the fighting in region and the actions of the ukrainian armed forces continue, and continue in the usual mode, i will remind you that the sudzha gas hub remains the only route through which russian gas gets through ukraine to europe, especially sensitive to...
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western observers are whipping up panic and seem not to hear gazprom's explanations. we have not heard anything from gazprom about whether they want to keep the station in working order to continue receiving money, or whether they are going to shut it down? that it will take time, because
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it is quite difficult to really launch this organization, and i want everything to be done as quickly as possible, it is clear that haste is needed to catch fleas, but nevertheless , in addition to attempts to sow panic, in these areas of the kursk region, and i mean the kursk region in general, the whole of it, there has been a surge in the activity of these ukrainian telephone scammers these days. who were simply making money, they called people, they sent text messages saying, let us help you now organize a search for your relatives who are in the occupied zone, we will take them out there for money, that is , what to do with this from what we have just said, i have not yet, do not be offended, dear guests, so far i have heard one specific proposal from mikhail yuryevich, who said that in those regions where the counter-terrorist operation regime has already been introduced, there we really sharply cut everything.
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it is very difficult, yes, then we should ban telegram altogether, the second topic, more understandable, in my opinion, and clear, is the question of the internal enemy, when this information begins to be disseminated under the guise of there: bloggers you gave an example of a scumbag, listen, for example, i have written on my site 10,000 times already, remove this character, what would it cost you to take this person, who is, in my opinion , a saboteur, clearly a saboteur, and this is already a lot, his work has been going on for several months, such sabotage, considering the past, take and simply close his channel, perhaps, perhaps, prohibit him from working in
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this vein and providing him with information that somehow gets to him about the movement of troops, and there i don’t know... about the fact that our planes are flying to telegram channels and so on, this is for the benefit of the poor, because there are various military resources that do not use telegram channels, yes, let's put it this way, the second point, which is very important, why is this not, why is this not done, this is not done, because apparently we have not
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yet developed this mechanism, it simply does not exist, we have prescribed this in the legislation, unfortunately this often happens with us, right in practice we can. the internet is turned off , for example, only sms or telephone communication remains, there sits a grandmother who calls her relatives in moscow, asks, we don't have the internet here, what 's going on around here, and her daughter, granddaughter retells her all these telegram channels, everything that's dumped there, because people can't correspond. in general, if this is a normal daughter, she should call her grandmother first, after that, the grandmother has already recounted something to her, she goes to tell the neighbors, and some colors are added, and we get even more panic, i apologize to the grandmother who called and
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tells her something else, there is television, we of course we need to raise the channel's status, we don't turn off television , we don't turn it off.
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people in uniform and civilians know who is behind these kurdish pavliks, and these people should be involved, involved, invited, motivated in different ways, that's the first, second.
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contacts at the front, and the worst thing is that if they really are there, it's just awful, i have a question for military counterintelligence, what is it that sits there, you explain all the additional
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factors to me, you explain to me what to do, maybe the question is not rhetorical, tell me please, how did you inform the population, we started with this today closer to the end, you can remember how you informed the population in critical situations, when there was no fucking internet. i will answer very very briefly with this there were very big problems, because as you know, many people did not leave the blockade of leningrad, because they also did not believe in what was happening and there were also alternative sources, there was no internet, everything was transmitted perfectly, and you know, i listened to today's discussion, there were arguments completely opposite.
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the games in paris are a statement of the victory of the liberal, i would say, west over all of us, more conservative people, i don't really want to believe it, well, let's first introduce a small information block into our scenario, at night donald trump, well, at night moscow time, gave an interview to elon musk vanya, yes, they talked for 2 hours, the recording is posted on musk's page, and they were supposed to show it, broadcast it all , sorry. broadcast it live, but the recording for 40 minutes did not start due to technical problems, musk explained all this by a hacker attack, here on the phone, you see, they are talking. nevertheless, to the direct
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1.5 million listeners tuned in to listen to all of this online, which is a record. the interview, as musk says, has already been viewed more than a billion times. what did they talk about? one of the main topics of the conversation was the ukrainian conflict. trump, in his usual manner , lashed out at biden, saying that with his talk of ukraine joining nato, the grandfather provoked all of this, and he did not forget to once again note the mental incapacity of the american president, so he said directly: biden is stupid, and his deputy kamela harris is even dumber, and added, that if he can return to the white house, he will be able to quickly stop the conflict in ukraine and will definitely reach an agreement with vladimir putin, with whom, as trump assures, he once had a good relationship. i have known putin for a long time, i got along well with him. he respected me, i hope we will get along again. biden did something with russia, there was no chance that putin would decide to introduce forces into ukraine. after i left office, they began to form large
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armies there, on the border with ukraine. i looked to this i thought that putin took this step because he is a good negotiator, and he wants to negotiate. these arguments of trump really worried his former adviser.
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so the goal of making money in mr. khaschenko's version is not even some kind of cultural show, it is a political tool that will impose and has practically already imposed new standards on everyone, not only sports, but life standards in general, and an interesting point, so if we are talking about this gender scandal that happened at the olympics, then dissatisfied there are...
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to equate all these people there with, i don't know, listen, they have much more serious restrictions on lgbt topics than we do. let's look at the first story. at the closing ceremony of the olympics in paris, the flag bearer of the algerian team was boxer iman kheliv, and the team in taiwan was headed by another boxer lin. both became champions, but it was not the gold of the games that brought them worldwide fame, but a gender scandal. the appearance and sexual characteristics of these athletes are female from birth, but genetically they are men. in in medicine, this is called hermaphroditism. i am a woman, like any other woman. i was born with a woman, i lived as a woman, i competed as a woman. iman khelif is
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the national pride of algeria. to suspect a citizen of this muslim country, where even the barbie movie was banned due to lgbt propaganda, of changing her gender is not just difficult, it is even offensive. in addition, khelif had previously competed in the tokyo olympics, where her opponent from ireland lost. no one had any questions about her gender then. and this is footage from the world cup boxing in 2019, where the algerian was defeated by the russian natalia shchadarina.
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does not see any problem, there transgender people have been participating in women's competitions for five years, there are women who change their gender to male, for example, swimmer izzy hennick. taking male hormones, she calmly competes with women and easily holds on to victories. my priority has always been inclusivity in sports, and it is important to me that the transport workers i know are athletes, a real athlete always wants to be sure of honesty.
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some rules change, but sport is about honesty, about fair competition, it was a long time ago, even when you were very little, now everything is not like that, i do not think it is normal that if a man and not, well, how, how can a man compete with a woman, if he is initially stronger, faster, it is not equal competition, for some reason everyone thinks that , you see how many examples, that these are quite acceptable moments, it is all the same, it is not equal, that is, you suggest that we try to deal with this somehow? well, of course, i think that
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yes, we need to fight this, how can we not go to these competitions, let's say sanctions are lifted from us, they say, come russians, and we say that if you have such strange tournaments, we will not go, we only men-men, women-women, disabled people, excuse me, there is the paralympics, there is , yes, let's make a transolympics and let these people compete, so we should tell them, yes, and what, excuse me for interfering in your this very interesting, and what can we say to this this this algerian, he is a woman according to his passport, he is not a gender changed, did not do any operations, did not cut anything off, i just do not understand. we will tell him: excuse me, you, so you are a woman, and you are not a woman, although we all look at him and think that he is a man, i suggest making separate competitions for them, for them for whom, for such, you see how many of them have already turned out in different ones, we take tests, and there are some standards, you see, some tests are now being cancelled for him, who
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is canceling them, well, as far as i understand, i could, in my opinion, yes, please, kristina, what are you you will say, well, i want to say, you even , in my opinion, as far as i understand, had experience of participating in competitions where you were present, right? yes, yes, yes, it was in 2015, it was the world summer universiade gwangju, and there was such an interesting situation, that this athlete from uganda, an athlete, she participated in the 800 m, you know, how you have to go through qualifying competitions, races and finals, so it turned out that in the evening there was such a situation that contrary to the rules, we did not know that, for example, you are qualifying for 800, in the final you run 800, we ran 1.5, she was with us...
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i had a chance to, maybe after the finish, i don’t know, come up, talk, honestly, look into the eyes, this person, who is he, how is he, how does she imagine herself, she, she looks at you, says, girls, well , excuse me, i ran, well this, this is some kind of, no, look, that means, this is 2015, that means, at
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least 9 years have already been going on, this process of changes, in fact, probably earlier, we can just start from this in our conversation today, this is an irreversible process, that is rules. male does not make a woman a man, they are allowed to compete, further, high
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testosterone levels do not mean that the athlete is a man, it is still necessary to prove that this testosterone affects the athletic performance, so let's clearly separate. there are athletes who have made the transition from male to female sports, these athletes should not be allowed to compete immediately, stop right away, here are these boxers from algeria and taiwan, this is the most difficult question, because they are indeed women according to their passports, high the probability that a genetic test will show that they have xy chromosomes, but... you know, endocrinologists say that these beautiful girls with tall legs also have xy chromosomes, many of them, that's why they don't have fat on their hips, that's why they're flat, but if someone says, let's get these men off the catwalk, no one will say, that's a good reservation, there
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are plenty of beautiful men on the modern catwalks, i don't really like all of that either, it's a very subtle and delicate issue, that is, well, do we have to agree with these changes, i mean that the rules could change all the time, because scientists are asked how to determine the sex of women in sports, yeah, and many scientists say: we don't know, for example, endocrinologist jeff brown from houston, he said that he examines olympic medalists for the presence of 21 gidrokstaza, an enzyme called, and this enzyme is in short supply in them and this. with such a little bit of a scientific problem , maybe you know that in the soviet union there were this we will talk about now,
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we will talk about this separately, i am talking about the political problem, because all this is presented, as is now customary, on such a platter of protecting human rights, that is, we must protect absolutely all the rights of the most diverse people and so on and so forth, where does this go then, where does this lead society, there are already examples of this in general, alexander alexandrovich, here again. certainly, in this case, who is who, but i am, as it were, an ardent supporter of the fact that
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the olympics have been an extremely politicized event for many, many years, not yesterday it started, as they say, but in this case i completely agree with dima, he could not just change the rules, there is no single coordinate system that could be used, perhaps another one, listen, the olympic games have been held for decades according to certain standards, why was it necessary to start changing something. yes, we are talking about changing standards, changing standards at the ioc and in general within the framework of holding all olympic games happens not only in this sense, but in all sorts of different many others, including this one, which grabs me in this situation, this is what we are dealing with transgender people, that is, we are not saying that this is a man, but should be a woman, or this is a woman, in fact she is a man, we are talking about the fact that there is some kind of intermediate transitional stage, some, which we call transgender, because the word trans means exactly this, here in my opinion,
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becomes clear, we continue, these border issues of gender, woman, man, man, woman, they arose not only at this olympics, back in the thirties of the twentieth century there was already a discussion regarding some athletes, and what gender is there, and is it not deceiving? moreover, such discussions were regarding soviet sportswomen, in in relation to soviet athletes, here we will now give the floor to maxim anatol'vich, because he has already told us, we have now. in our story the press sisters will appear, and you told us that you, in fact, had, and your mother had the opportunity to communicate with them, right, i remember, well, accordingly, we now, we will now show several of these examples and then we will give the floor to you, we have the material ready, colleagues, yes, then, perhaps, the first worldwide scandal associated with gender determination athletes was the story of american stella
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walsh, born in the russian empire, in childhood she came to the united states, where she achieved world recognition in international sports, stella - stasya became the champion in track and field at the olympics of thirty-second and thirty-sixth year. half a century after the triumph, walsh was killed, becoming a victim of robbery. and during the autopsy of the body it turned out that the runner in life was more a man than a woman. she lived her whole life as a woman. however, her gender tests might have revealed certain types in her chromosomes, or not. she believed that she was a woman. in the thirties in germany, the gender of the track and field athlete dora ratjan was questioned. according to the recollections of her comrades, she never showed herself undressed, did not wash in public showers, and generally behaved strangely. in 1938, ratjan won the track and field championship and was going to the olympics again, but in vienna she was stopped right at the train station and sent to a medical commission. the examination revealed that dora was a man with modified genitals. later , the press wrote that the nazi authorities knew about
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sexual difficulties of the athlete, but decided to remain silent. in the late fifties, a wide campaign of persecution was unleashed in the west against the soviet champions, sisters irina and tamara press. in the west, they were considered men and were even called the press brothers. irina competed in the all-around, and tamara in the shot put. both set records and won competitions, and the fact that the presses ended their careers when the procedure for checking gender identity was carried out at tournaments only increased suspicion. moreover, there is a video where one of the athletes talks about herself in the masculine gender. each of us makes our own life, well, i made it like this, i am happy, i left undefeated, and i believe,
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i am firmly convinced that idols, that is, athletes who have received a great calling, they should not leave with a defeat. no less scandalous was the sports path of another soviet athlete, alexandra chudina, she is a twenty-nine-time champion of the soviet union in athletics, and also the owner of planetary records and continental gold in the pentathlon and a three-time world champion in volleyball. it is believed that it was because of her that a gender test was introduced into sports. in 1960 , australian professor ludwig prokop published an article in which he stated that chudina, a hermaphrodite, combines the characteristics of a man and a woman. after the publication , gender tests were introduced into international competitions, and in 1968, this procedure became mandatory for all participants in the olympic games. maxim anatolyevich, doesn't it turn out that now this algerian, algerian boxer, or algerian boxer, as they call him, is being hounded in the same way as
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then the press sisters, making roughly the same claims, then actually, why do we have different magnifying glasses here, well, i'll start with the press sisters, i've known both of them since those years, but tamara is much closer, she is very close friends with my parents, for me she is just aunt tamara, when i was 5 she taught me to play preference, she called me electronics, because i was fast there... in the hurdles in petitborie, well, all these rumors were going around, but my mother was in the bathhouse with aunt tamara and at some point tamara says gal, well, what kind of crap are they talking about me, well, you
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you see that i am a woman says tamar, well i had no doubt, that's absolutely normal and i don't know what she said there and about herself, there were male endings that slipped through,
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i'll go for an olympic medal, well
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that doesn't happen, really, that's when you simply understand that this is a man, that's firstly, secondly, a very simple story, yes, define specific rules, you can't agree yourselves, let's have an ally. what should we do, so what should we do, look for allies, hold normal olympic games, develop the brics games, so that there, well honestly everything was, so in south africa the family is exactly the same, but i still don't remember, and she, in short, who was recognized, she is a runner, that's right, i remember, listen, these scandals will happen, once and not twice, you just can't discriminate against the majority for the sake of the minority, it doesn't work that way, it's democracy, it's been working that way for a long time in different areas, i agree, but the minority has been dictating the rights of the majority for a long time.
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make separate competitions for them, well otherwise then it's simply clear, understandable that they will win, but it's just it's useless now, well, so to speak, if you and i go out in sumo now, so to speak, you have a chance. some country, if it saw such an athlete, yes, it tried to use, if the person is athletic, if the person is talented, every country tries to send this athlete so that he wins medals, this is understandable, the rules are imperfect, but the joke is that otherwise there will be no sport left in sport, please, well please, leave sport in sport, except for the show, there are many abnormal ones in sport
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ancient wisdom, the russian world is better than the western war, paradox, it's funny that europe spends much more money to impose sanctions than russia does to survive these sanctions, the point is not whether you are ready to talk to putin, whether putin wants to talk to you? these and other aphorisms by tigran kiosayan in the international sawmill. oh, on saturday at 23:55 on ntv. ah, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, we continue. so i said that there are still some examples, there are not many of them, but sometimes international various sports organizations are trying to somehow protect themselves from the fact that athletes with a not very clear gender identity are penetrating their ranks
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. the international swimming federation banned transgender athletes from participating in women's competitions in 2022. the reason was the scandal that broke out a year earlier with the former polovtsian swimmer leah thomas. this ichthyander set several national records in women's disciplines as soon as he changed his gender. we must protect the rights of our athletes to participate in competitions. but we must also protect the integrity of these competitions, especially in the women's category. a year later, at the world boxing championships in india , two current olympic champions from algeria and taiwan were scandalously suspended because they failed a gender test. at the women's world boxing championships, one of the main topics was the integrity of athletes and professionalism. a number of dna tests revealed athletes.
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unfortunately, in my opinion, unfortunately, yes, because athletes often in a huge number of situations, very many they say, if you don't mean stories, like with this bulgarian girl, but we just talked about this recently, for most athletes, participation in the olympics is more important than, that is, more important than anything else, roughly speaking, they are ready for anything until they encounter a situation like this bulgarian boxer or this italian and so on, until now, due to the uncertainty of the rules, we see that either with a carcass, or a stuffed animal, whatever, even under a neutral flag, even with such rules, but people go and go, all the same to participate in these olympics and in order to still, let's get specific, yes, i just wanted to ask uzemfir, for example, against you, you are engaged, for me one of the most.
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will be stronger, he is faster, resilient, even if he does not know how to do something, he will train for a year, and he will beat all the girls in his weight class, yes even not in his weight category, and since the question has come up that such should not be allowed, i am against such people coming out in the ring with me, because against in the soul, but you are already against him the competition comes out, this is already your opponent. you will not conduct the fight, admit defeat, no,
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of course, i will go out and will, and you understand that you are thus on his right to fight against you, but if something i feel a clear advantage, that's how ... this athlete entered, of course, i will express my dissatisfaction, why then, just the question is why he, if he is sent to take some hormonal tests, he clearly has an excess of testosterone, yes, everything, when the athlete is sick, he is not allowed to even put drops in his nose, because god forbid, they will find something, why then can't another athlete inject himself, if, for example, a girl injects herself with all the testosterone possible, and comes out on an equal footing, she might not even win, why are women not allowed, now again to the norwegians, which can be taken.
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which are not cancelled to please norwegian asthmatics, another sick person, this is what just pisses me off, i want sports to remain sports, and not just a show, so that this competition exists, even if they allow everything doping, i assure you, athletes will go who are injected and will fight like never before, predtanslav, and do you remember why,
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actually, if i remember correctly, you are better about the history of sports, when they started to fight doping actively, when several athletes at the olympics, i think it was the eighties, maybe... czech, please tell me, who in your opinion should come up with such rules for sports, and in general is there a need for some kind of search for justice in sports, or should everything go on as it is, of course i will say something funny yes, but it should have already been able, yeah, it could - it's
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a private organization, and it's the international olympic committee, it 's responsible for the olympic games yes.
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in the end, he could be afraid to make a decision, because then you can run into courts, numerous courts, they can't make such a decision, there is a certain, a certain conditional union of track and field athletes or a union of swimmers around the world, conditionally athletes they know everything about each other perfectly well, they see each other in the locker rooms in the end in the soul, about locker rooms, let's throw this out, because externally a woman can be very pretty and cute martin. was externally very pretty, but inside she had male genitals with y chromosome, but in the end it turned out that testosterone does not affect her athletic performance, she was restored, i do not understand, everyone knows everything, everyone understands everything, but they cannot accept the rules, the champions there will always be citizens of thailand, because all this
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is widespread there, i watched the whole olympics they can say, this is what should not be, there should not be what was in all these fights.
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with these women by birth it's a different case, but somehow it needs to be regulated, this is not a problem with transgender people, the problem is much deeper, when we talk about the fact that there are no rules of the game in this or that sport, dmitry and i really love hockey, and anyway we have been playing for a long time in different roles... they play according to the ihaf rules and sometimes there are funny situations, and before they were much more common, when there, well, i won't go into details, when people confused these rules
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because they came to competitions playing the whole season by other rules, but they exist, so everything is very clear, here is the absence of rules, when this, i have a clear feeling that the absence of general rules is some kind of plan, if you like, not a conspiracy, but a plan, that is, this is when the situation. in chaos like this, which is constantly possible, as sharapov said, but not the law of the brushes, yes, remember, this is when you can constantly manipulate the rules and they change constantly, depending on the courts, the courts are won, history rolls back, some are awarded medals, some are not, we see what is happening, for example, what happened with the great history of our sochi olympics, not the sochi olympics, with kamilla valieva, the team figure skating tournament, when right at the olympics they took and awarded a new set of medals, that is , they replayed everything again.
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maybe they told her at birth that i died, maybe her mother said there, it’s not allowed, we don’t need it, but the adoptive mother doesn’t give any information, because she doesn’t support the search for her adopted daughter, she’s worried that somehow my attitude towards her will change, so that at 35 a woman does not even know her real date of birth and her real name, the only thing she said was that your last name was ionova, will she be able to find out about ...
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the queen of sports solved these problems in men's sports this problem does not exist at all, so we will solve it somehow. stanislav markovich, listen, if you do nothing, you don't need to fit in anywhere, you need to work to ensure that there are uniform rules, otherwise the feeling of disgust that any adequate person observes at this olympics, it will only grow more and more, if i'm sorry, it's shit, then it's better to remove it after all, you are an inadequate person, so many times, so many
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times today during the program you repeated the word uniform rules, in general i really want, by the way. agree, on the other hand, we are trying to establish uniform rules of what is considered talent, genius, some kind of natural data, and where is the line here, when is this a deviation or not a deviation or something is an anomaly, where here we are, this anomaly should not be an advantage, during the break we discussed with you the hypothetical hero of the film rain man, who remembered numbers perfectly, and at the same time he will play chess wonderfully, so we remove him, because he has some feature, some serious advantage.
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