with 10% cashback in sberbusiness bonuses. thank you. sberbusiness. beyond the limit. a former cohabitant kicked a woman out on the street with her four children. and now she intends to deprive him of parental rights. victoria gushchin is in the studio. victoria, hello, hello, how did it happen that you ended up on the street? i lost my home, i turned to my former cohabitant, the father of my children, four of them, to stay with him for a while, so that, well, it’s impossible to be with him, his friends go there, so we got the gist, he kicked us out, and he’s officially your father is all defiant, yes, the children are officially registered with him, how old are the children, and the daughter is 14 years old, the son is 12, the daughter is 8 years old, and

the fourth daughter is 3 years old , where did you go after he threw you out? it was night , one in the morning, we went to the playground , while it was dark, and then it began to get light, we somehow went into the forest, that is, you spent the night on the street, yes, now, where do you live, now with friends, with girlfriends, and why don't you have your own place, they took the apartment, it was owned by my dad, he died in 2001, at that time i was 12 years old, my mother did not re-registered.

they didn't take anything except dental bills, this is an apartment, it was owned by your father, it was prosthetically installed in his name, yes , he worked on the setup for more than 21 years, so he earned this apartment, and what kind of apartment was it, where was it located, how many rooms? a one-room apartment of 37 square meters in the city of moscow in the chertanovo-yuzhnoye district. ali, why did victoria lose the courts, and most importantly, why was this apartment recognized as ownerless property, what kind of concept is that? and look, you can inherit two ways. the first is to file an application for inheritance with a notary, the second is to file an application with the court for actual acceptance. in this case, neither one nor the other was done, in connection with this , the city property department, seeing that this property, that is, the apartment, was not registered to anyone, no one entered into the right of succession after the deceased owner, if people were registered, then the notary would automatically recognize them as owners, because these are persons, the first in kinship, none of this was done, in in connection with which, after a certain amount of time, and this is more... 10 years, more than 15

years, a person who has not entered into an inheritance of property that was not recognized as property of someone, can be recognized by the court as ownerless, this is property that has not had an owner for more than 15 years, and the city property department, as the department responsible for any property located in the city of moscow, filed a lawsuit and recognized this property as ownerless, then recognized the right of ownership for it, in connection with which this heroine was evicted, victoria, and do you have relatives who could... say hello, i have a brother and sister, but it turns out that the brother is 21 years old, he rents a room, and the sister lives in the ivanovo region, she has four children in rezhdeven, she also has a small house, in this apartment you lived with whom, with your children with your mother, why didn't she take care of the fact that she and you inherited, she says, well, i thought the apartment was prostituted, she says, i think nothing should happen, we live there, we live, we pay...

some carpathian mountains there and says this, as if i didn’t know that such concepts are generally out of ignorance just after you were evicted from the apartment, did you immediately turn to your ex for help? no, not right away, i just, frankly speaking, had no strength left, then there on the playground, then in the forest, even one woman came up to me, there she brought us tea in a thermos, chocolates there, you slept as if on the ground, no, on a bench, and covered yourself with what, i had two. with you, horror, ate fast food, it turns out that you went to the shopping center, so that charge their phones there. victoria, but what you're saying doesn't fit in my head, because you had a three-year-old child in your arms, yes, and how did the older children take it that they were left without a roof over their heads, the older children were most worried that someone from school or neighbors would see them, they were most afraid that the guardianship authorities would contact them, that they would not be taken to an orphanage. and how long did you live with your ex? about two weeks, he

eventually kicked us out, as if in fact, i just want to understand, what did he, wakes up in the morning, comes to you, says: leave and take the children, or how was it, no, he constantly listens to music, loudly, plus he has friends at the moment, as a mother, i don’t want anything to happen, when my ex-cohabitant himself is threatening me there, i was afraid to stay there, honestly, or did the actress have the right not to leave this apartment, she has children registered there, in principle, if the children are registered, then there is a possibility of being there, however, she is not registered in this apartment, and if the cohabitant will call the police, will say that this person is not registered at... to be here after 2359 she has no right to be there purely legally, but the children can, because they have registration. victoria, and where are you registered? in general, i bought a small summer house in 2017 in the ivanovo region with maternity capital,

but it is also 36 square meters, so to speak, for the sake of registration i bought it, but you can’t live there, there are no schools, kindergartens, there is no furniture, there are also piles of... glass, when i last went, i looked, there is no water, there is electricity, everything is there, there is nothing else, and there is no work there, and before 2017, where were you registered, nowhere, and how did you get a passport, the question is, through the guardianship authority, i contacted them, asked for help, they confirmed that they gave you a passport, didn’t they put a stamp on your registration, didn’t they ask where you are registered, but actual residence, as you confirmed, they asked, well, the guardianship authorities, they just came to me, i already had two children, they are here confirmed.

yes, she stayed there, there, if your mother lives, you can't leave your children with your grandmother, are you also afraid of your grandmother somehow, why didn't you leave them with your biological father, or do you have a bad relationship with your mother too, you don't trust her, mother, first of all, works, she wouldn't agree to sit with them, he basically doesn't conflict with her and doesn't interfere, basically all his nagging goes to me, and he basically didn't kick the children out, but i have to take them away, because i can't leave them there while mom is at work, who will look after them, i understand what kind of relationship there might be - with dad, yes, but if grandma is there, then at least leave the kids there overnight, yes, but some options, i think, should have been , certainly not to be on the street with the kids 24/7, victoria, why is it so important for you to deprive your ex

of parental rights? and because of child benefits, he receives child benefits, and why him? when the third daughter was born, we just started receiving benefits, before that i didn't do anything i received it, i didn't have a residence permit. she was born in 1916, it turns out i only got a residence permit in 1917, and naturally, they issued him benefits, because he's a muscovite, he has a residence permit, that's all, he receives them, for all four children, and what is the amount, somewhere around 80 thousand, and do you see anything from this money, sometimes you manage to get half, yes, alyona, indeed, without a residence permit, victoria couldn't apply for child benefits, the absence of a residence permit, well, registration, is not grounds for refusal, benefits are assigned according to... the actual place of residence, even if victoria has some kind of registration there in the ivanovo region, when we initially came to apply for benefits for him, they didn't even include me in the certificate of a large family, he was the only one who was included, i still have this document, when i did the registration, due to the lack of registration,

and when i already did the registration, we went and redid this certificate of a large family and they already included me there, victoria, what did you live on if you don't even have benefits there was, the part that i took from him, i worked. and that part, yes, as you say, child benefits, the ex did not help you anymore, well, he did not work, how did you even meet this person, we met in childhood, his sister is his own, we communicated with her since childhood, we were friends, how did your relationship develop, do you remember, you always mostly quarreled, i want to ask, why the hell did you live with this person, and give birth to his children, and was it worth, maybe, was it worth thinking about a wedding with someone else and having children from someone else, you did you love him? well then yes, of course, we had fights every now and then, that's why there was no wedding, we often quarreled, argued, he used to raise his hand, sometimes even to me, that was when it started, well it was practically at first the relationship, then the child, and why didn't you break up with him, well i don't know, i forgave, in

the end it all turned out the same, we lived together for 14 years, all the same, he kept saying that it wouldn't happen again, all this, and he beat you for all 14. no, he didn't beat you in the last few years, he's no longer healthy no, and what was the final straw, why did you decide to break up with him? and i couldn't stand it anymore, and he threatened me with violence for the last time, he would have stabbed me there , we would have stayed. first, secondly, and probably first of all, you are a man, you have no

moral right to behave like that towards a woman, okay, excuse me, i just have emotions, that's it, control yourself, okay, no one kicked her out, she took it herself, left, gathered her clothes and left with the children, how did you allow this to happen, so that your children left to nowhere, i didn't allow it, i then she doesn't let me with them, i screamed, i kicked out the older children myself, no, that's not it... yes, how long did victoria live with you with the children, when she lost her apartment and came to you with her own, with your common children, she lived for a month, yes, how did you live, tell me, did you live normally with her, i told her, vika, she found herself a new boyfriend, brought the children there to this jerk, and the children all want to come to me, he insults them there, like i'll cover my face, is it normal to say that to a little child, who is 3 years old, firstly, he's like...

was there some unreliable man there or do you just still have feelings for victoria and are you jealous? no, there's a really bad man there, he'll just screw her over, she'll be left with nothing at all, she feeds him on benefits, firstly, he worked, her card officially works for me, a second, a second , a second, you receive benefits, well, she just me, and she has a card, victoria, that's it, the last time i took the card, but every day for the last time, he blocks her benefits, then gives me an ultimatum that this is the amount you? you will give, and we go to the bank, i withdraw with the passport, it was every month, so, so it was, well yes, i am shocked,

and dad, and even more, seeing dad, i am shocked by victoria, well before he was different, it is the last few years that we stopped living, he is like this, well, it is clear, that is, you do not hide what you want - to deprive him of paternity because of money, that is , nothing more than you, that is, the fact that you leave the children without a biological father, this is why you. live, i think, with me, with her they should definitely not, because the children are constantly crying,

like dad says, take us to dad, yeah, just well the kids don't want to live with this person, they want to live with you, yeah, alexey, and why are the child benefits registered in your name, because she doesn't have a residence permit, and why didn't you make sure that she had a residence permit with the mother of your children, where would i register her, in my apartment, you registered the children with yourself, i can't register them because there's a debt hanging over there, well the children are there with one of the parents who has a residence permit, that is, at the time of the children's birth, if one of the parents had a residence permit, dad or mom, if in the birth certificate records the father, then he is automatically assigned to the parent who has registration, an adult must already go as the owner, write an application, victoria, for example, at the time of her first child... birth, had an apartment, you were not registered there, no, no, the problem is that the dgi threw them out, because she did not have

registration, no one was there, i do not understand how they studied at all, that is , they received an education without registration, it is impossible, she did not even study, a second, in i mean, she didn't study, she wasn't anywhere, at all, school, kindergarten, no, at all, victoria, explain, yes, i didn't study, how is that possible, why didn't mom take you to school, well, why didn't mom take you to school, didn't register you, this whole line goes. who, but i taught myself everything, i want to tell you, both to read and to write, shouldn't someone have made sure that the child didn't go to elementary school, god bless him with kindergarten, i can only guess, yes, that is, if she wasn't registered in this apartment, even at the time when the father was still alive, as if not, then she is not registered anywhere, that's all, that's right, due to the fact that she

was not registered, the guardianship authorities did not see her, because she was not in any document. she is not anywhere - a clinic, medical institutions, any, they do not see her, because there is no document, that is, there is no registration, there is no registration, here the only thing, here the only thing that could be caught on is the receipt of the housing and communal services department, in the housing and communal services receipt itself, there is a mark how many people live there, this is the only document, which can be evidence that someone lived there, victoria, i hope you did not follow in your parents' footsteps, your children go to school in kindergarten, in kindergartens, everyone goes to school. do the guardianship authorities have any questions for you? our boy is registered with the pdn because of the school , it turned out that he accidentally turned the child over himself at school, but this happened at the school to the teacher, and no one has any claims against each other, but officially the fact that this happened at school, they put us on accounting. alexey, you asked victoria a question,

where were you looking, and i want to ask you a question, where were you looking? she doesn't let me in to see them, i don't... a good position with them, and after she left you with the children, well, did you try to find out where she went? yes, i asked her, i still ask, but she says that she lived in the forest, on playgrounds, what forest, she didn't live in the forest, she's lying, and you didn't ask the children whether to communicate with your eldest son, a guy of about 18 years, i literally just talked to him yesterday, she she didn't let me communicate with her, and i don't communicate with my eldest son, no eldest, my son lives with me, he doesn't want to live with her, my eldest son lives with you, right? and how did this happen, explain to me both parents, he doesn't want to be with her, no, he 's lying, my eldest son, when we were wandering, he already said, mom, i say, i can't do this anymore, i'm tired, and my son complains to you about the conditions at dad's, he kind of says that this one came, that one left, he takes something somewhere, he'll clean up even there, and they don't offend him there, and he says no, right now at the moment i she said if you go with me, he says

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a decent, normal man. victoria, she is also a good mother, but she, you see, she chose another person, and the children do not want, you , alexey, what kind of father do you consider yourself, do you miss your children? yes, very much, i adore children in general. victoria, and the other children remember dad? little daughter, yes, sometimes she does, two daughters who are older, they are still kind of angry at him for this situation. alexey, by the way , how do you feel about victoria wanting to deprive

you of your parental rights? yes, i'm shocked, how did i not expect this from her, what would happen, what am i ready to do to prevent this from happening, well, what will she say, what will i do, and would you like to raise children on your own? well, yes, i would like to, you can, you can handle it, yes, you say that you can, but your sister is sure that you should never be trusted with children, diana samusenko is in the studio, hello, dian, why can't i have children, come on, tell me, come on. because he leads an immoral lifestyle, brings home, well, all sorts of friends, and it's bad for children there, dangerous, i think so, because, well, to put it bluntly, there are unsanitary conditions there , she said, it's not true, you constantly communicate with her on the phone, she talked you into it, well, you've known each other since victoria, and you really have a good relationship with her, yes, she's known me since childhood, and what can you say about her relationship with alexey, my brother is a monster.

how many times have i personally witnessed how he abused her, how he beat her, there was such a situation, that he smashed her head against the engine of a car, it’s good if i smashed her head, show me at least one scar, lesh, that happened, why was she covered in blood then, remember how you kicked her like a ball, what are you talking about, dian, you were constantly jealous of me with everyone, i remember that he hit me, i still have a scar here from that moment on my nose, no, my head, there was blood, with his hair and yes, i have no eyes, lesha is behind, and what else do you know, i kicked like a ball, constantly dragged him into my hair with my feet, that happened too, she believed him, came back, and victoria coped with raising children, yes, she always coped, she will go out there to work part-time, everything for the children mainly, how did your brother treat the children, well, i wouldn’t say that it was bad, well, of course he sat with them, that’s when they were on good terms, and what kind

of relationship do you have with your brother, bad? diana, did your mother ever try to reason with her son? well, she mainly i felt sorry for him. and what kind of relationship does alexey have with his mother now? and who do you live with now? with your husband and with your child. didn't your husband try to improve your relationship with your brother? after my brother scared my child, we were already living in another apartment, that's where my brother lives now, and he turned the music on loudly there, in general, we had a fight because of the music, i asked him to turn it down. quieter, he seemed to turn it down a little, but then again after 2 minutes he turned it up again at full volume, and i have a child, excuse me, i can't put anything to bed because of this loud music, then i came up, went out, myself made quiet already, he means, are you freaking out, but i quickly hurried to my room, he came there, started shouting, waving his hands there, are you freaking out, here my child is bursting

into loud cries, well, my husband has already stood up for me for this. maxim, what impression did diana's words make on you? and in general , this whole family? i am generally shocked by what is happening , in fact, because i can't understand, my first question is, what is the age difference between you, almost 4 years old, when you met him with alexey, what were you thinking about at all? i just don't understand, i have two children, like yes, i know what it is, you have four, and your situation, maybe, this is some kind of, i don't know how it would be.

you cause them great pain, i didn't offend her, how you beat her, yes, this is crap, you humiliate, i mean, it's a lie, there are people sitting here with eyes and ears, how did you come out, you 're interrupting, sitting, you don't know how to behave simply, to be honest with me in this whole story, i feel very sorry for the children, i i'm sitting here, my heart is just bleeding, i told her, i say, come, live, i won't invite anyone, that's it, it won't last long, no, he usually holds on for a while , as he says, well, maybe... he could hold on for a month, it happened, the last time he held on for 3 months, that's a record, it's a big question mark, because everything you do is beyond the pale, just like you, by the way, that is, well, i'd like to believe it, but it's hard. alexey, your apartment, where the children are registered, who is the owner there, you? me, yes. is it a privatized apartment in your name? no, it's not privatized. it's municipal. how did you get this apartment? well, from your grandmother.

have you thought about privatizing it? and he won't privatize it because he has debts there, and you know what the problem is, that they can soon be pulled out of this apartment onto the street for the reason that there are children, you know, the most important conditions in the contract with social housing. this is not only the actual residence, but also the maintenance of this housing, that is, the mandatory payment of utility bills, what debts do you have 900 with something, they will never pay 900 for how long have these accumulated over all this time most likely, well , while i lived with her, how many 15 years, yes , of course they will throw you out on the street, what are you doing, you have never worked, why aren't you working now, why not, i work guys, if you ask for help there with something, what is your monthly income besides benefits?

i am a good father, i am a man, and at the same time i do nothing, i don't earn a penny, i haven't paid off huge debts for 15 years, now the children will be left without a residence permit, possibly without a mother, without a father in such a story, but it's impossible, well, i was saying earlier where they will stay, how and where will they go, with such parents, everything is simple earlier , before the young man came out, of course, i had a thought, maybe there... a man who fights for his rights and wants children , there is all that and some, let's say, not very successful wife victoria, you know what i want to say now, forgive me again, victoria, i would not trust you with children, nor you, i already have a feeling that you will really soon

go out into the street, as ali says, you, excuse me, do you have paraphernalia on your hands, you have a criminal record, yes, for ulgan, for taking a car, that is, you were engaged in our business, vik, you did not know why you married him,

alexey's neighbors are sure that children cannot be trusted with either mom or dad, in the studio ksenia vysotskaya and elena maksimova, hello, hello, studio, good afternoon. ksenia, why do you think alexey and victoria are bad parents? i have only seen victoria a couple of times, she never lived in our house as such, but the person who - for so long gave birth to alexey, i think, well, he's probably stupid, and alexey himself, how can you characterize him? alexey is just an immoral person, well, you know, a person who is at the very bottom, this is just hell. that we live under his apartment, these are constant parties, constant music both at night and during the day, a huge number of people who come to him, but this is not the worst thing, because the worst thing is that for probably two decades now they

have been flooding us, constantly, regularly, and do they have problems with the plumbing, but no, they just have there have been no repairs, probably since the construction of our house, there are decrepit pipes, but they don’t have the money to do some kind of... some kind of forced repairs, for 20 years our kitchen, toilet, bathroom, hallway have been flooded, but a couple of years ago it got to the point that i went into our room from a walk with the child, where i have a child, i am the husband, and we had something running down the wall in the room, it smelled like urine, well, i was kind of in shock, i naturally ran upstairs, i said, are you really that old, are you really that old now just well, where, where you sleep there, they tell me, they say: you have something leaking there and somehow it leaked from the radiator there, probably, we came with the housing manager, he looked in the kitchen, looked at everything in the room and says: no, with the radiators everything is like, well, as they say, more or less, and he moves this sofa from there,

he lifts the linoleum like this in the corner, and there is a puddle there, well, that is, it is already so much that there is this, that is, they went to the toilet there, but then they told us that it turns out that it is some kind of comrades living with lesha, he just didn't care. alexey, why are you behaving like this, you, your friends, this is a lie, no, this is not a lie, lesha, thieves, i'm not confused, or where should the neighbors below turn so that all this doesn't flood, honestly, of course, i can tell you in this regard how to do it legally and in fact this person will not be there, but the problem is different, if he is not there, there will be no children, but for the neighbors, first of all, of course, these are complaints to the police, repeated recorded appeals. guardianship authorities guardianship is a must, because

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they wandered around the city all day long, washed and changed clothes in shopping centers, spent the night in the forest on children's playgrounds, one woman came up to me, says, i saw, says, you are sitting, says, in the morning with the children she brought us tea, chocolates in the morning, when there was no strength left to live like this, the woman came to the father of her children, thirty-eight-year-old alexey zhuravlev, but could not stay there for long, in a quiet family life the man preferred ... the company of friends, now victoria intends to deprive the ex of parental rights child benefits, he is of no use, he only spends their money for his own purposes. however, alexey himself assures that he is a good father and is ready to take the children back to his place. the peeling walls, piles of garbage and a horde of cockroaches do not bother him at all. this

is fixable, the father assures. i want to take the children back, i have all the conditions for this. yes, a woman's hand is not enough, but ... everything is clean at home, cockroaches happen to everyone, i think that for the children this is not a problem. the man has already allocated a separate room for the children, where toys and a computer are waiting for them, however, the only furniture here is an inflatable mattress, there are gaping holes in the walls, but very soon there will be wallpaper and new beds, - says alexey. when the children come to me, i will buy them beds, i will put them up like this, everything that will be needed. i have a walk-in closet, i will buy some, there is no wallpaper now, but i will put some up, well, i want to make some stars here, a black star, it will be beautiful, the owner is especially proud of the kitchen, there is a stove, a microwave, a dishwasher and a refrigerator with food and cockroaches, what is here, here

there is meat, whatever you want, there are eggs. that is there carrot, i'm in shock, the whole studio is in shock, diana, why are you in shock, you didn't expect this from your brother, honestly, i've been there for a long time, i haven't lived there for probably four years, but it's scary just to go there, i don't know, maria, what do you think of the conditions in which the father wants to take his four children, while they are, of course, beyond the pale, these conditions are absolutely. such a number of cockroaches, which even lie in the refrigerator, sleeping, it's generally surprising, she has the same thing. alexey, are you going to continue to claim with a straight face that these are normal conditions? no, we are renovating. first she started communicating with

this pasha again, why does this pasha bother you so much, as you say, yes, this man, because he will fuck her up with everything, do you still love victoria, i love her, who are you to her, to make such claims to her, tell me, who are you, what kind of husband are you, were you married, were you married, do you have a certificate of divorce or maybe a marriage certificate, no, a wife, and what kind of husband are you? then you are a cohabitant, you are nobody, you are just a man who once lived together, but such demands that you make can only be made, probably, by a spouse, a husband who has a ring on his fingers, why did she go to the left, and because victoria is a free woman, she can choose a worthy man, or wait, or do you think that you think that she cheated on you, because of which you broke up at all, by the way, well, because she started with him, i came, she told me. she says, i say, she slept with this one, i say that it's fine, we're all done, now she also tells me, yes, i'm sleeping with him, well, i didn't say that,

when i stopped living with him, when i had another boyfriend, i called him on the phone, said that i would now live with him and we'll see, and i haven't been in a relationship with this guy for a long time, alexey, but victoria says that she's not in a relationship with another man, she is, she is, and why is he living with him now, and where should i go? we help women recover, restore relationships with children, restore, really, cultivate adulthood in them, so that there won't be anything like this anymore

shifting responsibility to someone else, that is, you are ready to offer victoria help and invite her to your center, and tell us in more detail, if she comes to you, what the help will consist of, yes, our program, it is absolutely free, it is divided during the year, they can, we live in a house, and we take care of ourselves, eat, cook, look after the children. that is, we have seminars twice a day, just for recovery, for changes, for that, so that love for oneself is cultivated, so as not to allow others to come to us bad attitude in the future. do you think, victoria, this will help a lot? absolutely, i believe that this will help her a lot, by the way, victoria, what will you answer irina, will you accept the invitation? yes, irina, but look, alexey literally beat his chest the entire program today, that he never touched his common-law wife with a finger.

yes, since 2015 somewhere, what can you say about her as a person? personally, i have some kind of, well, unreal respect for her, as a mother first of all, well, she is a hard worker, because how many trials fell to her, to unfortunately, i don’t understand why, and how lesha is such a character in her life, unfortunately, i hope that he is passing, ending, who simply complicates her already difficult life, and you are familiar with him, unfortunately, he complained about him, well, i saw the facts that there was no need to even complain, it was just obvious, the children are sick, they are not sick, her job is not

a job, he just got up and left, that’s it, leave her alone, but he didn’t care, it was important to him, i want, i need, i’m tired, he said, although it’s not clear why, tried to persuade her to break up with alexey, of course, i told her, you are the only one with your children, and if god forbid something happens to you, no one will need your children, and why didn’t she leave him, because? she always had five children, well, that is, plus one, it was lesha. ekaterina, do you agree with daria? well, i can’t stand it when he starts slandering vika, especially blaming her for everything that happens, although if it weren’t for vika, i don’t know what would have happened, she’s a kind person, she feels sorry for him, alexey, you’re doing well you know, yes, we grew up in the same yard all together, tell me about it, walk, hang out, well, he grew up, got old, but nothing changed, and alexey really did beat her often. i don’t know about often, but he was very, very violent, there were a lot of cases, hair pulling, bruises, they were trying to stand up for their friend,

yes, i stood up for her. i was not in the city, now i live outside the city in the summer with my children, and vika called me, only a few days later, told me this story, i said, what’s the problem, why didn’t you do this earlier with considering that the apartment is here, now it's possible, and i suggested that she and the children live in the apartment, with us, well... change the children. she lived there for probably two or three days, and then we started looking for her and uh, started looking for a place for her to live, because i'm starting renovations, and we couldn't think of anything better, when to find her an apartment, what with friends, with pasha, that's where she lives now, what kind of man, that's the one alexey keeps talking about, she was in a relationship with him, she was in a relationship with him,

now something connects them with this person, love, or is it just that. but the woman assures that they are happy with this. maybe we will stay here for another five days, because it is not known whether this apartment is for rent, and for now it is here. the four of them sleep on a double bed, and cover themselves with blankets that they brought with them. huddling on one mattress is much better than on

benches in the open air, says victoria. the place is on...

and they get out, because firstly, it turns out cold, when even if you turn it on, you don’t turn it on, it’s still cold, the tiles plus it's cold everywhere. alexey, how do you like the current life of the woman who gave you four children? she has a bad life. do you feel sorry for victoria? yes, do you feel sorry for the children? yes, what are you ready to do to change your children's lives? to do some renovations, with her, we wanted to do some renovations with her. no, that's not true, we broke up about 3 years ago, and i told him that yes, i have those feelings for him, as for a brother, together we can no longer be like husband and wife, living together, victoria, you can consider, well, like brother and sister, how simple are the guardians of children, well i was with him for 2

weeks, but i couldn't stand it anymore, irina, what do you think of the conditions in which she lives now.

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children out the door and now they are forced to spend the night wherever they can. olga, how can we ensure that the children are not harmed in this whole situation? well, first of all, this family should definitely be registered. and it is absolutely certain that they should be informed. about the future place of residence of our heroine together with the children, and if the son decides to live with his father, then accordingly, a statement. i am ready to send, to monitor this situation, of course, this is absolutely not difficult, but you just understand, here are the competent authorities and those who are responsible for this is from the state, for minor children, they should be aware of what is happening, in my opinion, now they simply do not even suspect the really difficult situation that has developed for these children, and if the parents do not... come to their senses

, well, they will limit his parental rights in any case, simply, well, she is not there, she looks quite presentable, she behaves like a mother, there are no questions for her, yes, she will live somewhere there in a rented, again, i repeat, apartment, he is deprived of parental rights, he is deprived of this housing, and then again the children are hanging in the air, well, for example, i... how would i act in this situation, there is housing, but the social tenancy agreement has not yet been drawn up, and there is a debt there, well, i did not have time, yes, what would happen in this situation, i would take care of drawing up a social tenancy agreement, and even despite the fact that there is a large debt on this apartment, try to register this apartment in the children's name, or, you will add, if we are talking about... further privatization, then

here our mother is the legal representative children, if we remove the father from the registration record for non-payment of debts, then the children will remain alone in this apartment, respectively, and they have parents, in connection with this, we can try, taking into account, so to speak, the help of the guardianship authorities, the trusteeship there , the favor of the dgi, to register the mother there, and accordingly, that debt that exists, it can be reduced, yes, by filing accordingly for recalculation, well, and then over time by ...

i can, of course, i will help, i am interested myself, thank you, alexey, victoria, i - at the end of our program i want to address you and your children need both a mother and a father, you will have to come to an agreement with each other in any case, finally take responsibility for these children to whom you gave life, because if you do not do this now, all this can end very badly. yes, i naturally love my children very much, i came here for this program to ask, maybe, for some help, so that they would help me stay with the children, and so that i could raise them in the future. remember that with any problem you can contact help in our program, we will continue tomorrow, right now a new dna test. watch tomorrow in the program beyond. grandfather and grandchildren went to... stick, but

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